And the fairies are all endless virgins, too. Loved that part.

That fairy part sounds like something outta a bad fanfic.

It's great getting downvoted for correcting someone who is in the wrong. @Miten Sasmita is incorrect and doesn't understand the full context of those concepts. But you all like to believe him because you like to hate religions that aren't your own. You want someone to point to and say that they are worse. That's how you all are. You all know nothing abt Islam except what your biased sources and media tells you. I recommend you see what my first reply to this comment is if you have enough brain capacity to recognize that your frame of view isn't the only one, and it may not be correct .

They both have the same roots - patriarchy.

The fairy part is hadith (not quran, but still accepted by many Muslims)

Listen here, yes it does say that men can have four wives and that was actually a low number at the time. Back in those days men would be marrying countless women. 4 was a limit. Now days, that rule is barely applied because people marry the traditional one. Nowhere does it say women are walking vaginas. They have a whole sura for women's rights that are a bit behind the times today, but were very progressive when the Quran came out. Yes, it does say men can be with multiple women in paradise but it never says that women can't do something similar. You sound like you are islamophobic. Hate is not okay, and you should respect all religions.

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DOn't criticize the Quran. That is off limits to progressive liberals. Only hate Christians. CHristian evil, Muslim good.

Daisychain, Vanities was being sarcastic (I think).

Oh my goodness though Vanities... If we could report comments on panda, I would report you. That is so evil and wrong. All religions are equal, and we get to CHOOSE what we believe in. Just because I am Christian doesn't mean that I am a terrible person, neither does being Muslim mean you are good and holy. (I am not saying it doesn't go both ways, but in the whole, you shouldn't criticize any religion)

Maybe you’ve not met any ...

your comment doesn't make sense

Olivia Masterson, please read your bible all the way through without anyone trying to spin it for you. Leviticus 12:1-8 Explains that a woman has to be purified after giving birth because she is “unclean”. It goes on to say that birthing a male is cleaner then birthing a female, hence a mother must purify twice as long when having a daughter. This is blatant sexism from the point of birth. A woman is dirty simply for being a woman; this is obviously very biased and chauvinistic. Talk to any doctors, there is no medical reason that supports any of this misogyny.

Olivia Masterson doesn’t know her “holy” book. Deuteronomy 22:28-29: If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. Do you know many women that want to marry their rapist?

Holly Bible King James Version; Deuteronomy 22; 28-29 “If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Exodus 22:16-17. 50 silver shekels.

Some people USE it as a history book and pick and choose which parts to use and live by, while ignoring others. And why do you immediately assume that people who dislike the bible haven't read it and want to kill Christians? You can be a Christian and still disagree - and think for yourself.

Water B******e, you know single use plastic water bottles are ruining the environment, right? Have you read the bible thoroughly? What about the passages saying how you can beat your slave into a coma, but if they get up after 2 days, it's ok? Are bats birds? The bible idiotically says that bats are birds in Leviticus 11:13-19. There is yet a another passage in the bible about rape. Deuteronomy 22:23-24 says that if a betrothed rape victim didn't cry out, then she must be stoned to death. It says nothing about if she was physically in shock and couldn't cry out. It says nothing about if she is mute. It says nothing about if the rapist had a knife to her throat. It's just more victim blaming misogyny from an archaic, idiotic book. The bible says if you want striped cattle, put them in front striped things when they are mating, and they will produce striped offspring. Isn't that silly? That's not how genetics works. There are 10 commandments; why not say, No Rape!?

I've read the bible thoroughly, and yes it does say these things. Lucky for us, most Christians don't, and are generally better than this broze age book.

"...why aren’t people like you dissing the Bible “on the streets” and killing Christians?" What? You don't even make sense, water bottle.

So maybe the language of Exodus 22:16-17 was exaggerated in Terd F's comment (if you're looking at the NIV, at least)... but women had no power, no say. If a woman was raped, you can't doubt that the same law would be applied to her and her rapist. I grew up as a Christian and it took me a long time to see the inherent misogyny in the religion. The fact that my entire life I was told and expected to dress modestly because the sexual urges of boys and men were somehow MY responsibility. Like I can't wear a low cut shirt because it might turn someone on and god forbid they be tempted! Why aren't they responsible for respecting my body? This is how rape culture occurs. It's never anyone's fault - and how someone was dressed is NEVER an excuse or reason... but somehow judges are asking rape victims in court what they were wearing when the attack occurred.

P.S. There's an entire psalm that talks about how to be a good, subservient wife... there is no such doctrine in the Bible about how to be a subservient husband. The MAN is the leader and the wife's job is to support him and agree with him and bear him children and all that stuff. A lot of the reason why the Bible isn't more heavily criticized is because despite the fact that the US is supposed to be a secular state, it is HIGHLY Christian and has a history of being very religious. Also there's this thing called cognitive dissonance that prevents believers from examining the BIble with critical thought.

Actually, it does say that. Most people who make the comments that Terd did are the people who read the bible, all the way through, probably more than once. I mean, he probably said it with more vitriol than I would have, but his observations weren't wrong.

Water Bottle, as a Christian, I do not agree with parts of your views... Why would we expect this person to KILL other human beings?

Why aren't people killing Christians? Because unlike Christians, intelligent people were brought up civilized, that's why. You can't call it history (which it's not) and opinion at the same time. We leave the killing of other people up to the likes of you.

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Turd, if I’m a water b******e then you come out of my a*s. What you said about rape in Deuteronomy is documented in the Bible. It is in the Old Testament, as I said earlier the Old Testament is to point out humanities flaws and sins, meant to be read as a history book. Look at all of the passages you have posted, they are all from the Old Testament. Also, as you probably do not know, not all Christians, including me, “blindly follow” the Bible. I believe that birds are in fact, not bats, but stuff from the Bible such as, in basic terms for you, don’t steal, don’t murder others, don’t cheat on your spouse, is true, which I follow. But I do not believe that placing a cow in front of a striped object will create striped offspring, but I am still a Christian. The Bible says that woman should not be teaching the word of god, yet I have just experienced a very powerful message from a female pastor, which ironically talked about how you don’t have to follow the Bible all the way through.

From what I know (I'm not christian so I don't know much,) the bible was written by people who knew Jesus, not god himself.

The bible is supposedly the word of an all-knowing, all-powerful, perfect being with a divine plan. If this being was a perfect being how could he inspire such a stupid, evil book? How could he inspire a book with thousands of contradictions? How could he write a book with so many scientific inaccuracies? How could he write a book condoning rape and slavery with specific advice on how to beat your slaves?

Holy Bible King James Version; Deuteronomy 22; 28-29 “If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days."

Which verse and chapter? Cuz I doubt that.

Which biblical scholar taught you that? Sounds like complete b******t to me, Vanessa. The bible told the conquering men to kill every single person in the neighboring tribe, but keep the virgin girls for yourself. Now what was that for? It seems like rape is certainly implied there too. This was a book written by stupid, ancient men with penises.

Shenanigans! These stories set out specific rules for rape price, differences between rape in a town vs in the country. Since you brought up the 10 commandments (which one BTW, they are stated in multiple places, and aren't alike), they also list "thou shalt not covet thy neighbors house, his a*s, his oxen, and his wife." That pretty clearly relegates women to property status (or at best chattel). That is just a few things from the old testament. For the new testament, we have Timothy, which basically says that women are unable to teach, shouldn't speak, and so much more.

The big problem is; a lot of people don't view it that way. They see the Old Testament as a guide for living, not an example of how s****y, backwards and sick things 'used to be'. And these are 'fundamentalist Christians'.

Not No One, if the old testament doesn't mean anything, then are you ok with homosexual christians? Leviticus 12:1-8 Explains that a woman has to be purified after giving birth because she is “unclean”. It goes on to say that birthing a male is cleaner then birthing a female, hence a mother must purify twice as long when having a daughter. This is blatant sexism from the point of birth. A woman is dirty simply for being a woman; this is obviously very biased and chauvinistic.

It's just the English language. I know rape is excruciatingly awful. That's not what I am implying at all. Why are you more offended at the phrasing of the English language than what the bible is condoning? I think it's disgusting. Why aren't people speaking out in the streets about how awful the bible is?