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“AITA For Not Wanting My Disabled Cousin At My Wedding?”
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“AITA For Not Wanting My Disabled Cousin At My Wedding?”

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The wedding day is one of the most important days in people’s lives. So it’s no surprise that they want everything to go smoothly; hence the months of preparation, arrangements, and worrying.

For this bride-to-be, one of the main wedding-related worries was the guestlist; and whether or not her cousin should be on it. Opening up to the ‘AITAH’ community, she shared that her disabled cousin consistently crosses physical boundaries, which makes her uncomfortable, and she doesn’t want to be on edge during her big day. Her family, however, believed that not inviting him would be unfair and cruel.

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This bride-to-be was worried that having her disabled cousin at her wedding would keep her on edge

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Working on understanding boundaries is imperative for people with developmental disabilities

With approximately 317 million children and adolescents with health conditions that contribute to developmental disabilities globally, not to mention the number of adults living with such a disability, it’s safe to assume that the OP’s family is not the only one having to navigate situations similar to the one the redditor found herself in.

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For people with intellectual and developmental disabilities, also known as IDDs, it might be difficult to draw the line between behavior that is considered “appropriate” and overstepping someone’s boundaries. However, sources suggest that it’s important to work with developmentally disabled people towards a better understanding of boundaries, not only for the sake of those around them, but also for their own well-being.

According to Community Mainstreaming (CMA), an organization that provides personalized services to help maximize the independence of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities in their homes and communities, it’s critical to teach them about social boundaries. The organization notes that lack of awareness regarding said boundaries can negatively impact their social skills, which in turn might lead to a decreased level of self esteem, social withdrawal, and feelings of alienation.

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It’s important that people with developmental disabilities understand boundaries for the sake of both themselves and those around them

CMA suggests that role playing or acting out common scenarios and conversations can be a great way to introduce social boundaries to someone with an IDD. (Nowadays, there is even a game dedicated to exactly that.) The organization also emphasizes that when talking on the topic, it’s imperative to discuss boundaries regarding touching, pointing out that touching another person differs depending on who the person is. “For example, the way you would touch your best friend may be different than the way you would physically engage with a stranger,” CMA notes.

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Moreover, it’s important to emphasize that physical contact is only appropriate when both of the involved people choose to be touched. Making sure your loved one with an IDD knows that can not only help avoid uncomfortable situations (like the ones the OP finds herself in when approached by her cousin), but also help ensure that they are aware of what is considered inappropriate when someone else approaches them, and that they can inform a trusted adult if they feel that something is wrong.

CMA notes that by teaching social and sexual boundaries to loved ones with IDD, people can help them be safe, healthy and respectful to others. Yet unfortunately, the OP didn’t feel safe around her cousin; and the last thing she wanted was to feel on edge during her big day. The majority of fellow netizens didn’t think that that made her a jerk.

The OP shared some more details in the comments

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Many netizens didn’t think the bride-to-be was a jerk in the situation

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Some people believed that everyone was to blame here, at least to some extent

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lenka
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. A 2 year old can understand the basic premise of not touching people without their consent. If the cousin has the intellectual capacity of a 7 year old he should have been taught, in an age appropriate manner, that his behavior was inappropriate. This is a failing of his parents and your family for treating him like his disability instead of someone capable of learning and respecting others. And before I get called 'ablest', my cousin has an intellectual disability and is assessed as functioning not more than 10 years old. He was taught, patiently and consistently, to respect peoples boundaries. And he does. We respect him by treating him like any other family member capable of learning boundaries, and not like he is nothing more than his disability. If your family refuses to teach him personal boundaries then you should enforce your personal boundaries in whatever manner you consider appropriate.

Sue User
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I woul argue not teaching the cousin boundaries is ableist. Everyone is acting like the cousin has no ability to be taught basic manners. He might be developmentally challeged but the that doesnt mean he cant learn at all.

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Skogsrået
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, her wedding and her rules but with this family there will be consequences. Cousins behaviour could have been handled long ago but seems they enable it instead. Just cause you are disabled doesn't mean you can't learn and change your behaviour but instead they encourage his bad behaviour.

Alexandra
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So much this! When my husband was undergoing rehab after a car crash, we saw so many disabled people just taking out their frustrations and anger on their loved ones! It was horrible to watch. Almost 80% of the ward my husband was on (20 beds) were divorced after a year.

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kissmychakram
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm fairly sure the last thing a bride wants on her wedding day is to be groped by anyone (other than, maybe, her groom). If this a thing that her cousin is almost certain to do then I completely understand her not wanting him there. The fact that he doesn't understand that what he is doing is wrong is also another good reason to exclude him since he likewise won't understand why people are getting cross with him (op mentions that he cried when yelled at). If she were excluding him for aesthetic reasons then she would definitely be TA, in this case however NTA. IMO, of course.

Kathryn Burnett
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly don't believe that he doesn't get it. I think he totally knows what he's doing and family has made it clear that's it's okay to do.

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arthbach
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd go straight to my grandparents, and explain the problem. I'd want them on board. My next step would be to arrange a meeting with my aunt and uncle, and explain exactly why their son, my cousin, is not being invited to the wedding. It is totally reasonable not to want to be sexually assaulted on your wedding day. There would be no discussion. It would be 'This is our decision, and these are the reasons. That's it.'

Tyke
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go to the cousin and explain it clearly to him... he may finally get the message

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XanthippeⓐWulf🇨🇦️️🇬🇧
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(1/2) I admit that during my childhood, I had moments where my behavior was...shall we say, challenging (ASD). I'm always a huge advocate for making small concessions for those with developmental disabilities, but this is more than should be allowed. It's basically dismissing that this is sexual assault because he "doesn't know any better." OP does not & should not have to simply take it because he has "the mind of a child." What average child goes around purposefully groping women & being openly aggressive to their partners? I won't assume I know everything about this situation, but he will continue to do it as long as the rest of the family lets him. That's just how the brain works for a lot of us when you are neurodiverse. It locks on to things that are "pleasurable." Even to this day, I have somewhat of a *fetish* with voices. When I was a child, I used to follow random people if I liked the sound of their voice. Quite terrifying for my parents as one minute I'd be with them

XanthippeⓐWulf🇨🇦️️🇬🇧
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(2/2) & then they next *poof* gone. My parents had to be very stern with me on why this was not appropriate behavior until it sunk in that it was unacceptable (and dangerous!) to follow strangers. The rest of the family needs to step in and work to curb this behavior, and if they are unwilling, that's on them. Wtf kind of family would let someone feel you up & form an unhealthy attachment to you, and expect you to be fine with it? They are playing a dangerous game, as one day they may find themselves in a situation when "Tom" sets his attention on someone else who ends up pressing charges.

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Angela C
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he's actually on the level of a 7 year old... Children that age are capable of learning right from wrong, what is and isn't inappropriate. They've enabled his behavior for far too long. Right from the jump they should have started explaining what is and is not appropriate to him. Also the fact that he's been so obsessed with her for years is a massive red flag. I have no doubt he'd try to sabotage the wedding somehow because she's "supposed" to marry him. Inclusion is a great thing, but when someone is a danger to others or themselves, regardless of disability or lack thereof, they should not be included in certain things.

Insomniac
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The same man has been obsessed with me since I was 6. My family refused to keep him away from me because they didn't want to upset him. I didn't put my foot down till my late 30s that I was never going to go near him or speak to him again. Even now, if he sees me in public, he calls my name and tries to chase me. I will not feel safe until he is dead.

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Tyke
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They say he has a mental age of 7... it's a no child wedding. So don't invite him. If they say that's not fair because he's an adult, then make it clear they are responsible for keeping him from the bride, or they all get kicked out. I get her anxiety, so I don't think this would work but him seeing her actually marry another man may get the message through to him... or he may have a full on meltdown which would also ruin the wedding. Also, kids younger than 7 know to stop when someone says no. I vote NTA.

Papa
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand what you're saying about making other family members responsible for controlling his behavior during the wedding, but I didn't see anything in that story that makes me believe her family would take that responsibility seriously.

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StumblingThroughLife
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA 100%. Ignoring an older relative groping a child - and continuing on throughout, is reprehensible. The fact that it began after the OP developed breasts is telling - a 7-year-old wouldn't consider doing that. He might have the 7-year age-level in other ways, but he definitely has a more mature leaning when it comes to being attracted to girly bits. Both the parents and the cousin will suffer more than a refusal to the wedding if he did this to another child now he's physically older. If I was the OP, I wouldn't have him at my wedding - and would probably be traumatised by his inappropriate behaviour though my childhood/teens (maybe the OP is, to an extent). People who think she's an AH are insane. I blame her relatives for ENABLING (and blaming her) what was happening to her, his (younger) cousin. A friend I made in my fifties told me how she'd been r*ped when she was 11, by a local similarly mentally disabled bloke, and he was put into a psychiatric hospital (53 years ago) for a year, then let out - on the condition that he was accompanied when he left his (warden-controlled block of flats). It took her a long time to get over it. She was undeveloped at the time, btw. Do what makes the OP feel comfortable, and if she needs to, go NC with those failing relatives.

Insomniac
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is certainly traumatized. She's partially in denial because her family has been invalidating her emotions for so many years, but as she "escapes" him through her marriage and is in a safe space away from him, the trauma is going to start manifesting. I hope that she gets help.

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Sarah Matsoukis
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Elope, I wouldn't want anyone at my wedding who treats me like that

Weasel Wise
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A family member is sexually harassing and assaulting another family member, and everyone else is totally okay with it. Absolutely gross! 🤮

Nina
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a 6 year old boy. He knows not to touch anyone, let alone a girls boobs. Her family are just letting this bastard sexually assaulted her. Hope she doesn't incident him and refuses to ever see him again. Disgusting family she has there. Mug them all off.

Lo Kindred
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here's the thing that screams at me.... what if, in the middle of her ceremony, he decides to get up and make a scene because she is "his" girlfriend. How would the family feel then? She definitely needs to tell her family to back off and let her handle the situation.

TribbleThinking
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Firmly state in the printed invitations that it is a childfree wedding. Make sure you specifically name each guest invited. Most importantly, invest in four bouncers and brief them thoroughly, emphasizing the sexual assaults that your family have enabled since you were 12.

and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just want to say that seven is absolutely old enough to understand basic boundaries. That would be a justification if he drew on the walls or tracked mud through the house, not for sexual harassment.

KatSaidWhat
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heading is inappropriate, I immediately thought YTA before I read this. IMO, her day, her choice - he clearly won't behave and her family are not only enabling but literally victim blamed. Maybe let him go to the reception but sure AF not the ceremony.

Grazina Strolia
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a cousin like this. My parents went no contact after he repeatedly tried to grope and kiss me one night. This cousin is going to FLIP at the wedding. He is going to SCREAM. He has poor impulse control, but he has a grown man's body, and will begin throwing things. Maybe assaulting people. Family members are going to get hurt. Caretakers are going to get hurt. The ONLY way I'd allow that person at my wedding is if he is sedated to within an inch of unconsciousness. Sorry, but this is like inviting a bull to a dance while you're wearing a red dress. You wouldn't let this person drive because they can't handle it; this wedding is something else he can't handle. It's unfortunate, but he'll be much happier making crafts with a caretaker instead of at this wedding.

notlikeyou1971
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In this post I saw her that as a child this went on and when she complained to the adults,they told her that she tempted him or asked for it. That's foul! Do you know what that is equivalent to? Telling a SA victim that they asked for and invited it! The family should have corrected the cousin's behavior. They are disgusting for not correcting it. I'm a SA survivor ( multiple times different situations different assailants) and disabled. I don't care who they are, what age they are ,just because they have the label " disabled " and " family " doesn't mean that they have to attend your wedding and make you uncomfortable. Anyone who is pulling the " but family " guilt trip card and " shame on you he is disabled and doesn't know any better " shouldn't be invited either because they should have taught them better and stopped this cousin right from wrong. They say he has a mind of a 7 yr old but a 7 yr old knows( and can learn to) to keep their hand to themselves. A disabled person shouldn't get special treatment. DO NOT INVITE HIM! Your wedding = Your rules. If anyone doesn't like it, they can stay home too. It's supposed to be a happy occasion for you and your husband. Not a miserable occasion where you feel violated and want to scrub every part of your body and probably will have to stop a meltdown when he sees you 2 marry and the reception.

WonderWoman
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Elope wearing your grandma's dress and have grandpa walk you down the aisle. OP's family sucks! They see she is being sexualized by her cousin and don't do anything? Tom is not learning that he has to keep his hands to himself - even 3 year olds understand that, so they are doing Tom a terrible disservice for letting it continue. If OP insists on a wedding, 100% do not allow Tom to attend. Better Tom's day is ruined rather than hers.

Jessica Bertram
Community Member
1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This should be a no-brainer. Take OPs cousin's mental capacity out of the equation, and a woman is still being SA'd by another human. He is mentally old enough to learn the concept of consent; my friend's kid, almost 3, told her mom the other day, "Don't touch my body!" Literally no excuse. Low contact or no contact for the family members enabling your attacker.

Diolla
Community Member
1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother was severely mentally disabled (never learned to talk, was not housetrained, etc) and was living in a care home with similar ppl. When they were entering adulthood I was SA'ed several times, not by my brother but by other inhabitants. Even though they were of very low intellect it was made clear to them every time that this was NOT OK.

Spittnimage
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he's grabbing butt and b00bs and trying to kiss I'd say his mentality is higher than a 7-year-old.

Insomniac
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Developmental disability isn't simply a child's mind in an adult's body. That's a terrible simplification. If someone is a physical adult, they will have some adult thought process and most definitely adult urges. And they certainly can and MUST be taught to control those.

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Roberta Surprenant
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he has that limited a mental capacity, he wouldn't even be aware she was being married that day UNLESS "family" chooses to tell him.

Kathryn Burnett
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. The family is wrong. He knows EXACTLY what he's doing and they enabled that. OP is completely justified and needs to start asking the hard questions. What if he does this to a child? He already says I'm his girlfriend, do you think he's going to sit there and watch marry another man he doesn't like? OP is completely justified and if parents aren't willing to see that because of the "poor disabled kid" then OP needs to cut them out.

Beth Wheeler
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even being 7 mentally he should know NOT to touch you like that, younger kids are taught to not do it. For the family to think that she has encouraged it at some point is completely nuts especially since she has told them it makes her uncomfortable. It sounds like he has been babied his whole life. It will take awhile but he can be made to stop. If he did that so a woman that doesn't know anything about his disability she might slap the hell out of him. They need to work on this before somebody hurts him.

Insomniac
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Beyond that, he could be charged and declared a danger to the public and locked into an institution. Even disabled sexual predators cannot be left to run free.

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FreeTheUnicorn
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The family have really failed this man. By failing to reinforce boundaries they've ensured his interactions are more awkward for others and so he will always be more isolated and have a harder time in society as a whole. He was always going to have a hard time they've purposefully made it harder because they either lazy, ableist, or both.

Kari Panda
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with the suggestion from the ESH commenter. I think it would really hurt Tom‘s feelings to be excluded, but it’s not OP‘s resposibility to protect herself from him. Someone must keep him in line, every single second of the wedding. If they can‘t manage that, then Tom needs to leave, period.

FluffyDreg
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The unfortunate thing is... since no one else feels it's a problem no one is actually going to stop him. Even of she asks them too.

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Insomniac
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. Just... no. So many families ignore the inappropriate behaviour of a disabled member because they "don't know better." Victims are no less traumatized because it's a disabled person abusing them. Under most circumstances, "he doesn't understand" is BS. If you can teach someone to brush their teeth, you can teach them that no, you are not allowed to touch people inappropriately. But it takes considerable work, repetition, consequence, etc. Most families don't want to put in that work. And as much as we don't want to believe it, many people with developmental disabilities are good at using their disabilities to get away with stuff they know isn't right. I am a survivor of CSA from a disabled person. I've worked in the field many years as an adult. It isn't as simple as "child in adult body" at all. By not teaching Tom appropriate boundaries, his family is setting him up for becoming more isolated as time goes on and not being able to develop healthy friendships.

Key Lime
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her family has downplayed his actions gir too long. She could keep the peace by inviting him, but hire security to keep him in check. It is obvious the family won't keep him in check.

Steve Robert
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Should be fun when the preacher man asks "does anyone here object to this marriage?" Or the reaction to the two of them kissing. Sounds like the plot to a very bad movie imo.

Ty Stratton-Quirk
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's an episode of 'Criminal Minds' with a startlingly similar plotline to this.

Insomniac
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The one where the dude is obsessed with his brother's wife and ends up kidnapping the daughter? I saw that one. Those parents needed to be far more involved in monitoring and guiding their disabled son. No kid should be allowed to live in a fantasy world, and it's more harmful for disabled kids because they can more easily convince themselves that it's the truth. And they carry that into adulthood.

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Say No to Downvoting
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to know how this family goes with other aspect of consensual touch, gender roles and excusing poor behaviour from males? Something about their responses to OP seems, to me, like there are far deeper issues than just protecting the vulnerable person with a disability.

DC
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. And ... if Tom is so sure about your relationship not being true, why would he want to attend, even? Plus, the overstepping ... Tom may truly not know. But he has parents, maybe siblings, who might help with this. They may want to protect him, but they appear stupid, and they don't do him a favour either - make it clear to them that their lack of attempt to rectify the worst oversteppig has now made you unable to invite your dear cousin, because you would love to, but as they - he's not your son, it's on them - failed to prepare him for a world that doesn't want to be hugged and smearkissed at all times, you can't. It's finally enough, the kissing, hugging and grabbing needs to stop NOW. It sounds like whatever compromise that must include no touching, kissing, hugging you'd offer, they'd take and walk over. No. He won't attend, end of. There's nothing you need to discuss or justify. They could, for once, accept that you matter, too.

misfittrixx
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't even have to read this to say yes you are, that's just mean ..

frinny
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This is horrible, My Cousin is also severely disabled physically and mentally. He was at my wedding, no question. each to their own but i would never have left him out

Aboredpanda
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm guessing your cousin doesn't sexually touch you against your will, doesn't strongly dislike your now spouse, and wasn't liable to ruin you wedding, either?

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FluffyDreg
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think someone not wanting to invite their older cousin that has been s*xually assaulting them since they were 12 to her wedding is a bad person. I think it's perfectly fine to not want the person assaultung you since childhood, and insisting your fiance/partner isn't your real partner because they instead are. Hey btw, you are my girlfriend now, I'm going to touch your boobs & button constantly, you should be happy about it and cant be mad at me. If you dont invite me to your wedding you are a terrible person.

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lenka
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. A 2 year old can understand the basic premise of not touching people without their consent. If the cousin has the intellectual capacity of a 7 year old he should have been taught, in an age appropriate manner, that his behavior was inappropriate. This is a failing of his parents and your family for treating him like his disability instead of someone capable of learning and respecting others. And before I get called 'ablest', my cousin has an intellectual disability and is assessed as functioning not more than 10 years old. He was taught, patiently and consistently, to respect peoples boundaries. And he does. We respect him by treating him like any other family member capable of learning boundaries, and not like he is nothing more than his disability. If your family refuses to teach him personal boundaries then you should enforce your personal boundaries in whatever manner you consider appropriate.

Sue User
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I woul argue not teaching the cousin boundaries is ableist. Everyone is acting like the cousin has no ability to be taught basic manners. He might be developmentally challeged but the that doesnt mean he cant learn at all.

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Skogsrået
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, her wedding and her rules but with this family there will be consequences. Cousins behaviour could have been handled long ago but seems they enable it instead. Just cause you are disabled doesn't mean you can't learn and change your behaviour but instead they encourage his bad behaviour.

Alexandra
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So much this! When my husband was undergoing rehab after a car crash, we saw so many disabled people just taking out their frustrations and anger on their loved ones! It was horrible to watch. Almost 80% of the ward my husband was on (20 beds) were divorced after a year.

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kissmychakram
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm fairly sure the last thing a bride wants on her wedding day is to be groped by anyone (other than, maybe, her groom). If this a thing that her cousin is almost certain to do then I completely understand her not wanting him there. The fact that he doesn't understand that what he is doing is wrong is also another good reason to exclude him since he likewise won't understand why people are getting cross with him (op mentions that he cried when yelled at). If she were excluding him for aesthetic reasons then she would definitely be TA, in this case however NTA. IMO, of course.

Kathryn Burnett
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly don't believe that he doesn't get it. I think he totally knows what he's doing and family has made it clear that's it's okay to do.

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arthbach
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd go straight to my grandparents, and explain the problem. I'd want them on board. My next step would be to arrange a meeting with my aunt and uncle, and explain exactly why their son, my cousin, is not being invited to the wedding. It is totally reasonable not to want to be sexually assaulted on your wedding day. There would be no discussion. It would be 'This is our decision, and these are the reasons. That's it.'

Tyke
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go to the cousin and explain it clearly to him... he may finally get the message

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XanthippeⓐWulf🇨🇦️️🇬🇧
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(1/2) I admit that during my childhood, I had moments where my behavior was...shall we say, challenging (ASD). I'm always a huge advocate for making small concessions for those with developmental disabilities, but this is more than should be allowed. It's basically dismissing that this is sexual assault because he "doesn't know any better." OP does not & should not have to simply take it because he has "the mind of a child." What average child goes around purposefully groping women & being openly aggressive to their partners? I won't assume I know everything about this situation, but he will continue to do it as long as the rest of the family lets him. That's just how the brain works for a lot of us when you are neurodiverse. It locks on to things that are "pleasurable." Even to this day, I have somewhat of a *fetish* with voices. When I was a child, I used to follow random people if I liked the sound of their voice. Quite terrifying for my parents as one minute I'd be with them

XanthippeⓐWulf🇨🇦️️🇬🇧
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(2/2) & then they next *poof* gone. My parents had to be very stern with me on why this was not appropriate behavior until it sunk in that it was unacceptable (and dangerous!) to follow strangers. The rest of the family needs to step in and work to curb this behavior, and if they are unwilling, that's on them. Wtf kind of family would let someone feel you up & form an unhealthy attachment to you, and expect you to be fine with it? They are playing a dangerous game, as one day they may find themselves in a situation when "Tom" sets his attention on someone else who ends up pressing charges.

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Angela C
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he's actually on the level of a 7 year old... Children that age are capable of learning right from wrong, what is and isn't inappropriate. They've enabled his behavior for far too long. Right from the jump they should have started explaining what is and is not appropriate to him. Also the fact that he's been so obsessed with her for years is a massive red flag. I have no doubt he'd try to sabotage the wedding somehow because she's "supposed" to marry him. Inclusion is a great thing, but when someone is a danger to others or themselves, regardless of disability or lack thereof, they should not be included in certain things.

Insomniac
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The same man has been obsessed with me since I was 6. My family refused to keep him away from me because they didn't want to upset him. I didn't put my foot down till my late 30s that I was never going to go near him or speak to him again. Even now, if he sees me in public, he calls my name and tries to chase me. I will not feel safe until he is dead.

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Tyke
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They say he has a mental age of 7... it's a no child wedding. So don't invite him. If they say that's not fair because he's an adult, then make it clear they are responsible for keeping him from the bride, or they all get kicked out. I get her anxiety, so I don't think this would work but him seeing her actually marry another man may get the message through to him... or he may have a full on meltdown which would also ruin the wedding. Also, kids younger than 7 know to stop when someone says no. I vote NTA.

Papa
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand what you're saying about making other family members responsible for controlling his behavior during the wedding, but I didn't see anything in that story that makes me believe her family would take that responsibility seriously.

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StumblingThroughLife
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA 100%. Ignoring an older relative groping a child - and continuing on throughout, is reprehensible. The fact that it began after the OP developed breasts is telling - a 7-year-old wouldn't consider doing that. He might have the 7-year age-level in other ways, but he definitely has a more mature leaning when it comes to being attracted to girly bits. Both the parents and the cousin will suffer more than a refusal to the wedding if he did this to another child now he's physically older. If I was the OP, I wouldn't have him at my wedding - and would probably be traumatised by his inappropriate behaviour though my childhood/teens (maybe the OP is, to an extent). People who think she's an AH are insane. I blame her relatives for ENABLING (and blaming her) what was happening to her, his (younger) cousin. A friend I made in my fifties told me how she'd been r*ped when she was 11, by a local similarly mentally disabled bloke, and he was put into a psychiatric hospital (53 years ago) for a year, then let out - on the condition that he was accompanied when he left his (warden-controlled block of flats). It took her a long time to get over it. She was undeveloped at the time, btw. Do what makes the OP feel comfortable, and if she needs to, go NC with those failing relatives.

Insomniac
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is certainly traumatized. She's partially in denial because her family has been invalidating her emotions for so many years, but as she "escapes" him through her marriage and is in a safe space away from him, the trauma is going to start manifesting. I hope that she gets help.

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Sarah Matsoukis
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Elope, I wouldn't want anyone at my wedding who treats me like that

Weasel Wise
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A family member is sexually harassing and assaulting another family member, and everyone else is totally okay with it. Absolutely gross! 🤮

Nina
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a 6 year old boy. He knows not to touch anyone, let alone a girls boobs. Her family are just letting this bastard sexually assaulted her. Hope she doesn't incident him and refuses to ever see him again. Disgusting family she has there. Mug them all off.

Lo Kindred
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here's the thing that screams at me.... what if, in the middle of her ceremony, he decides to get up and make a scene because she is "his" girlfriend. How would the family feel then? She definitely needs to tell her family to back off and let her handle the situation.

TribbleThinking
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Firmly state in the printed invitations that it is a childfree wedding. Make sure you specifically name each guest invited. Most importantly, invest in four bouncers and brief them thoroughly, emphasizing the sexual assaults that your family have enabled since you were 12.

and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just want to say that seven is absolutely old enough to understand basic boundaries. That would be a justification if he drew on the walls or tracked mud through the house, not for sexual harassment.

KatSaidWhat
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heading is inappropriate, I immediately thought YTA before I read this. IMO, her day, her choice - he clearly won't behave and her family are not only enabling but literally victim blamed. Maybe let him go to the reception but sure AF not the ceremony.

Grazina Strolia
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a cousin like this. My parents went no contact after he repeatedly tried to grope and kiss me one night. This cousin is going to FLIP at the wedding. He is going to SCREAM. He has poor impulse control, but he has a grown man's body, and will begin throwing things. Maybe assaulting people. Family members are going to get hurt. Caretakers are going to get hurt. The ONLY way I'd allow that person at my wedding is if he is sedated to within an inch of unconsciousness. Sorry, but this is like inviting a bull to a dance while you're wearing a red dress. You wouldn't let this person drive because they can't handle it; this wedding is something else he can't handle. It's unfortunate, but he'll be much happier making crafts with a caretaker instead of at this wedding.

notlikeyou1971
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In this post I saw her that as a child this went on and when she complained to the adults,they told her that she tempted him or asked for it. That's foul! Do you know what that is equivalent to? Telling a SA victim that they asked for and invited it! The family should have corrected the cousin's behavior. They are disgusting for not correcting it. I'm a SA survivor ( multiple times different situations different assailants) and disabled. I don't care who they are, what age they are ,just because they have the label " disabled " and " family " doesn't mean that they have to attend your wedding and make you uncomfortable. Anyone who is pulling the " but family " guilt trip card and " shame on you he is disabled and doesn't know any better " shouldn't be invited either because they should have taught them better and stopped this cousin right from wrong. They say he has a mind of a 7 yr old but a 7 yr old knows( and can learn to) to keep their hand to themselves. A disabled person shouldn't get special treatment. DO NOT INVITE HIM! Your wedding = Your rules. If anyone doesn't like it, they can stay home too. It's supposed to be a happy occasion for you and your husband. Not a miserable occasion where you feel violated and want to scrub every part of your body and probably will have to stop a meltdown when he sees you 2 marry and the reception.

WonderWoman
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Elope wearing your grandma's dress and have grandpa walk you down the aisle. OP's family sucks! They see she is being sexualized by her cousin and don't do anything? Tom is not learning that he has to keep his hands to himself - even 3 year olds understand that, so they are doing Tom a terrible disservice for letting it continue. If OP insists on a wedding, 100% do not allow Tom to attend. Better Tom's day is ruined rather than hers.

Jessica Bertram
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This should be a no-brainer. Take OPs cousin's mental capacity out of the equation, and a woman is still being SA'd by another human. He is mentally old enough to learn the concept of consent; my friend's kid, almost 3, told her mom the other day, "Don't touch my body!" Literally no excuse. Low contact or no contact for the family members enabling your attacker.

Diolla
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother was severely mentally disabled (never learned to talk, was not housetrained, etc) and was living in a care home with similar ppl. When they were entering adulthood I was SA'ed several times, not by my brother but by other inhabitants. Even though they were of very low intellect it was made clear to them every time that this was NOT OK.

Spittnimage
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he's grabbing butt and b00bs and trying to kiss I'd say his mentality is higher than a 7-year-old.

Insomniac
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Developmental disability isn't simply a child's mind in an adult's body. That's a terrible simplification. If someone is a physical adult, they will have some adult thought process and most definitely adult urges. And they certainly can and MUST be taught to control those.

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Roberta Surprenant
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he has that limited a mental capacity, he wouldn't even be aware she was being married that day UNLESS "family" chooses to tell him.

Kathryn Burnett
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. The family is wrong. He knows EXACTLY what he's doing and they enabled that. OP is completely justified and needs to start asking the hard questions. What if he does this to a child? He already says I'm his girlfriend, do you think he's going to sit there and watch marry another man he doesn't like? OP is completely justified and if parents aren't willing to see that because of the "poor disabled kid" then OP needs to cut them out.

Beth Wheeler
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even being 7 mentally he should know NOT to touch you like that, younger kids are taught to not do it. For the family to think that she has encouraged it at some point is completely nuts especially since she has told them it makes her uncomfortable. It sounds like he has been babied his whole life. It will take awhile but he can be made to stop. If he did that so a woman that doesn't know anything about his disability she might slap the hell out of him. They need to work on this before somebody hurts him.

Insomniac
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Beyond that, he could be charged and declared a danger to the public and locked into an institution. Even disabled sexual predators cannot be left to run free.

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FreeTheUnicorn
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The family have really failed this man. By failing to reinforce boundaries they've ensured his interactions are more awkward for others and so he will always be more isolated and have a harder time in society as a whole. He was always going to have a hard time they've purposefully made it harder because they either lazy, ableist, or both.

Kari Panda
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with the suggestion from the ESH commenter. I think it would really hurt Tom‘s feelings to be excluded, but it’s not OP‘s resposibility to protect herself from him. Someone must keep him in line, every single second of the wedding. If they can‘t manage that, then Tom needs to leave, period.

FluffyDreg
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The unfortunate thing is... since no one else feels it's a problem no one is actually going to stop him. Even of she asks them too.

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Insomniac
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. Just... no. So many families ignore the inappropriate behaviour of a disabled member because they "don't know better." Victims are no less traumatized because it's a disabled person abusing them. Under most circumstances, "he doesn't understand" is BS. If you can teach someone to brush their teeth, you can teach them that no, you are not allowed to touch people inappropriately. But it takes considerable work, repetition, consequence, etc. Most families don't want to put in that work. And as much as we don't want to believe it, many people with developmental disabilities are good at using their disabilities to get away with stuff they know isn't right. I am a survivor of CSA from a disabled person. I've worked in the field many years as an adult. It isn't as simple as "child in adult body" at all. By not teaching Tom appropriate boundaries, his family is setting him up for becoming more isolated as time goes on and not being able to develop healthy friendships.

Key Lime
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her family has downplayed his actions gir too long. She could keep the peace by inviting him, but hire security to keep him in check. It is obvious the family won't keep him in check.

Steve Robert
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Should be fun when the preacher man asks "does anyone here object to this marriage?" Or the reaction to the two of them kissing. Sounds like the plot to a very bad movie imo.

Ty Stratton-Quirk
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's an episode of 'Criminal Minds' with a startlingly similar plotline to this.

Insomniac
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The one where the dude is obsessed with his brother's wife and ends up kidnapping the daughter? I saw that one. Those parents needed to be far more involved in monitoring and guiding their disabled son. No kid should be allowed to live in a fantasy world, and it's more harmful for disabled kids because they can more easily convince themselves that it's the truth. And they carry that into adulthood.

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Say No to Downvoting
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to know how this family goes with other aspect of consensual touch, gender roles and excusing poor behaviour from males? Something about their responses to OP seems, to me, like there are far deeper issues than just protecting the vulnerable person with a disability.

DC
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. And ... if Tom is so sure about your relationship not being true, why would he want to attend, even? Plus, the overstepping ... Tom may truly not know. But he has parents, maybe siblings, who might help with this. They may want to protect him, but they appear stupid, and they don't do him a favour either - make it clear to them that their lack of attempt to rectify the worst oversteppig has now made you unable to invite your dear cousin, because you would love to, but as they - he's not your son, it's on them - failed to prepare him for a world that doesn't want to be hugged and smearkissed at all times, you can't. It's finally enough, the kissing, hugging and grabbing needs to stop NOW. It sounds like whatever compromise that must include no touching, kissing, hugging you'd offer, they'd take and walk over. No. He won't attend, end of. There's nothing you need to discuss or justify. They could, for once, accept that you matter, too.

misfittrixx
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't even have to read this to say yes you are, that's just mean ..

frinny
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This is horrible, My Cousin is also severely disabled physically and mentally. He was at my wedding, no question. each to their own but i would never have left him out

Aboredpanda
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm guessing your cousin doesn't sexually touch you against your will, doesn't strongly dislike your now spouse, and wasn't liable to ruin you wedding, either?

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FluffyDreg
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think someone not wanting to invite their older cousin that has been s*xually assaulting them since they were 12 to her wedding is a bad person. I think it's perfectly fine to not want the person assaultung you since childhood, and insisting your fiance/partner isn't your real partner because they instead are. Hey btw, you are my girlfriend now, I'm going to touch your boobs & button constantly, you should be happy about it and cant be mad at me. If you dont invite me to your wedding you are a terrible person.

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