30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group

Anyone who’s been in business knows that it’s near impossible to stay ethical. The cutthroat nature of the entrepreneur world conditions every businessman to cut corners and push the limits of what’s allowed (at the very least) just to stay afloat.

Now, most of it stays behind the curtains, but some of it does surface, and then everyone sees it, and then many are surprised this is actually common practice.

Reddit has been discussing this very thing: unethical business practices that are surprisingly common in the business world after user u/Elaus asked the r/AskReddit section of the social medium about this.

The post has managed to garner over 52,200 upvotes, engaging the audience that left over 31,000 comments.

Scroll down to find some of the best responses to the AskReddit question, and while you’re at it, vote and comment on the submissions you like the most, and why not share some of your unethical business practice ideas in the comment section at the end of the article!

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group It’s shady to give dedicated, long-term employees a measly 2-3% annual raise (if any at all), while hiring less experienced people for the same (or higher) salary, than the experienced employee.

It essentially punishes loyal employees.

SmthgWicked , Yuya Tamai Report

Final score:

180points

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David Houde 3 years ago

I'm the old guy on my team (software development) and I've regularly told newer, especially younger employees that their pay will always be determined by the salary that they negotiated when they were first hired by the company. If they give you a promotion and raise, guess what? It's a raise based on your previous salary. It's not based on what it would cost the company to hire someone from the outside to fill the same position. Spoiler - it would cost the company a lot more to fill it from the outside than promote from within. I also tell them to keep up on salary data for their position and every few years bring it up at review/raise time. Sometimes they will bring you up to average, most times you have to find a new job to get up to "average".

35points

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Not including wage info in the job posting. At least post the range or minimum for the position.

[deleted] , Michael Coleman Report

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157points

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Ashley Lynne 3 years ago

This! WHY WASTE YOUR OWN TIME AND INTERVIEWEES TIME? tell me what you pay and if it's too low I'll save you the time of reviewing my resume and interviewing me- common sense!

34points

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Cutting peoples hours just enough to not be considered full time so they don't have to give you benefits. Those bosses are true pieces of s@#t and I happen to know a few of them.

gt35r , Matti Mattilla Report

Final score:

148points

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R Carson 3 years ago

Totally unfair.

14points

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Doing illegal s@#t to make $20million then getting caught and paying a $5million fine.

xxkoloblicinxx , Clyde Robinson Report

Final score:

144points

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Buren 3 years ago

I have read about much higher first number and much lower second number

31points

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Planned obsolescence.

ivegotahughjackman Report

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140points

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R Carson 3 years ago

Sucks

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Giving a set amount of PTO, then refusing to let employees actually use it, or shaming them for doing so.

vrtigo1 , Bob n Renee Report

Final score:

122points

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Poultry Geist 3 years ago

Or asking them when they want to take it and them saying “no” to their request. I use to work at BOA and this always happened to me

14points

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Consistently making salaried exempt employees work 10+ hours overtime a week in order to avoid hiring more staff.

gnosis_carmot , Dennis Sylvester Hurd Report

Final score:

113points

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Jack Hannon 3 years ago

I worked in DoD for years. I was ALWAYS Salaried, OT Exempt. So, I had to keep a timecard and account for every hour I worked, and use time off if I worked fewer than 40 hours, but if I worked over 40 hours I did not get OT...

11points

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group No auto-cancel on recurring payments.

Companies could very easily add the feature but won't hoping you forget and pay them more.

BergevinsPlant , u/Top_Advance195 Report

Final score:

107points

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R Carson 3 years ago

Rip off

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Using a previous salary against you.

"Oh, you make $40,000? Well, we'll offer you $50,000. That's a 25% increase in pay!"

Your salary shouldn't be relative, it should be what the market value of the position is. If a job pays $75,000, don't pay me only $50,000 because I only currently make $40,000.

BoilerMaker11 , Andy Nguyen Report

Final score:

107points

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Kira Okah 3 years ago

Then say no. Find out what the value of your position is and don't accept less.

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#10

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Selling customer data.

Throwawayiksdee123 , Olgierd Rudak Report

Final score:

103points

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Angela B 3 years ago

EffBee anyone? Or is that Meta now?

16points

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#11

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Signing people up for s@#t as addons to an existing bill and hoping they don't notice the extra charges.

mrthewhite , Hiqwm Wreop Uis Report

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101points

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Zoe's Mom 3 years ago

This is why Wells Fargo was hit with Millions if not Billion dollars of fines.

26points

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#12

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Paying invoices late, especially BIG companies that pay a few months late. It kills small business, and seems to be quite normal here in the UK.

Puff_the_magic_luke , cybrgrl Report

Final score:

94points

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Otter 3 years ago

I once worked in an accounts payable office, and at one point my bosses told me "Don't pay anything under 30 days old, we need to make up a budget shortfall". It was temporary, but still.

20points

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#13

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Making you pay more for printing your own damn tickets at home.

StubHub, ticketmaster etc.

ironmanmk42 , Shawn Collins Report

Final score:

94points

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Metallic Geisha 3 years ago

Or $3.50-4 atm fees...

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#14

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Hire young people who are prepared and motivated and enjoy the work.

Give them 50 hours a week of work, no special overtime pay, tell them it'll be back to normal at then end of the month when the regular crunch is over.

Repeat until near a deadline.

Give them 80 hours a week, 7 days a week of crunch to meet the deadline.

Continue past deadline a little while then return to "regular" hours of 50 hours.

Repeat until your employees hate life. Refuse to give references when they quit "to protect yourself legally". Normalize across the industry so nobody can complain too much and sound credible.

macboot , AFGE Report

Final score:

91points

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Cactus McCoy 3 years ago

Aaaaaaand again illegal here. Basically all of it.

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#15

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Literally anything a corporation does that they can be fined for is taken into account as a business expense. If it's cheaper to pay an illegal dumping fine than it is to change the way they process waste nothing will be done to stop the illegal dumping.

Byizo , Richter Frank-Jurgen Report

Final score:

90points

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James016 3 years ago

Make directors and CEOs personally responsible and bring criminal charges against them.

50points

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#16

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Congress is immune to insider trading.

YoBuckStopsHere , Colorado Senate GOP Report

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78points

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Nikki Sevven 3 years ago

This isn't true. At least one sitting Congressman is currently under investigation for just that...profiting from information that was made available to Congress but not to the public.

20points

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#17

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Posting a job announcement and conducting interviews for a job you already know who you're going to hire.

Miley_I-da-Ho , Sam Beebe Report

Final score:

77points

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Otter 3 years ago

Apparently that's an HR requirement, at least at the company where I work. If someone knows exactly who they want to hire for a specific position, the company rules (and possibly state, local, or federal laws) require them to post the position and interview all applicants. It's bullshit that benefits nobody.

34points

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#18

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Working when you are sick. I have heard stories of bosses forcing people to come in despite being extremely ill.

Also I just wish that it would be mandatory schedule length of at least two weeks if the hours are not the same every day. Mine changes weekly, and it's hard to plan anything.

Akitiki , Jan Kaláb Report

Final score:

76points

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Cactus McCoy 3 years ago

Calling in sick people is simply illegal here. As it should be everywhere.

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#19

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Careful (deceptive) wording.

"Up to 100mbps internet speeds!" means you get 5-6mbps, and "up to" 100 for a moment here and there.

"Made with 100% Chicken" simply means that real chicken was utilized as an ingredient at some point. It's like saying a bottle of wine is "made with" 100% organic cork.

"Sugar free!" means "Less sugar per serving than the minimum we have to report"

"The top rated____" usually followed by the specific study that ranked it best. Did you know you can pay a company to perform a study for you that's guaranteed to determine you're the best?

MyNameIsRay , Uswitch.com Images Report

Final score:

75points

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Hans 3 years ago

Did you know that the Hans Institute in a recent study showed that Hans is the most popular commenter on BP? They found his comments to be "100% genuine" and "bad jokes free". He types in a organic way, and his wording is vegan-friendly, gluten-free and free-ranged. All of his comments, save for the negative ones, are positive. Reading his comments may reduce your heartburn by up to 100%.

63points

Hans 3 years ago

As endorsed by the Support-o-Hans association, I immediately upvoted this comment.

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Pungent Sauce 3 years ago

I greatly enjoyed Hans’s comments, and they were delivered on time and in great condition! Great stuff! However, when I called customer service to ask a question I did not care for his tone and immediately flamed him savagely on Yelp. Manners, people! -Love, Karen

6points

Bobby 3 years ago

Common side effects of Hans include chuckling, groaning and in rare cases death. Do not use Hans if you are allergic.

5points

Rick 3 years ago

Meet Rick. In a recent poll consisting of…a number, 100% agreed that he’s far better than Hans, and much better looking too.

5points

Jo87 3 years ago

This made me laugh so much but please be nicer to us Coeliacs, we didn't ask for everyone to suddenly become faddy about gluten 😂🙈

3points

v 3 years ago

I might be able to bring myself to agree with the researchers at the Hans Institute on the aspect of being 100% bad jokes free simply because in my own, completely non-scientific, study I found your claims to actually be a good joke. For the rest I want to see cites from a proper peer reviewed source.

2points

Kazi Hito 3 years ago

This made my day, thank you.

2points

Celtic Pirate Queen 3 years ago

"Side effects may include" ...

0points

Tuna Fish 3 years ago

Hans also vows to try and be 100% green and carbon neutral by the year 2125. Guaranteed.

0points

A Jones 3 years ago

Yep "Made with" vs "Made of". There's that vocabulary to note!

1point

Pat Dobson 3 years ago

One that really gets me is internet conneciton speeds are in Mbps (mega BITS per second), a bit is 1/8 of a BYTE and file sizes are in Bytes (i.e. 100MB) and most people don't realise that. So 100Mbps second connection won't download 100MB in one second...

1point

MadeupDemon 3 years ago

Exactly and if anyone is wondering why, network speed was always measured on bits long before the internet because when something is sent along the wire their are no bytes only bits. Also take the 1/8 with grain of salt and expect something more like 1/10

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Kira Okah 3 years ago

Some of this is also country specific. Tic Tacs cannot be called sugar free here, in fact "sugar free" requires zero sugar full stop for the label. If it only has natural and no extra sugars added, then it's "no added sugar", even if it's only 0.1g. Anything with added sugars cannot receive either label no matter what amount.

1point

I I 3 years ago

mine guarantee 100+ i get 146 BT fibre if anyone wondered

0points

Kelly Hartle 3 years ago

Or using words that have no defined meaning under federal guidelines, like "healthy."

0points

K R 3 years ago

Magnet designated hospitals - they pay to be

0points

MyOpinionHasBeenServed 3 years ago (edited)

I've worked for one of them companies and I can attest that the questions in the study ooze with boasting, pride and embarrassing tone deaf "factoids" that make it hard for the interviewer to not belt out laughing while reading it to you.

0points

Shane S 3 years ago

“Doctor/physician recommended” no longer carries any weight for me now that we’ve seen doctors deny covid, push fake remedies, and bash vaccines. I can get a doctor to say the sky is purple.

0points

Rannveig Ess 3 years ago

There was a new food law that was supposed to be up for approval (I can't find what happened to it..) so that manufacturers couldn't advertise things as "Gluten Free" when they had no gluten, period. You couldn't put "Gluten free" on a can of olives, say, or a packet of frozen fish.

0points

WoodenLion 3 years ago

a pomegranate juice advertised "100%" pom. juice. in court they said there was 1% pom. juice in it but that 1% was 100% juice.

0points

BasedWang 3 years ago

this is more just advertising and the gullible person is their own problem

0points

cookie 3 years ago

I hate it when companies falsely label something as "sugar free", like tic tacs are considered to be sugar free, even though it's literally just sugar. The only reason it's sugar free is because there's less than a gram of sugar per serving, however, a serving, a single tic tac, is half a gram, so it could be purely sugar and can still be considered "sugar free."

0points

Kiryn Silverwing 3 years ago

It should really be percentage of serving size, rather than a flat number.

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TheWickedOne 3 years ago

All should be illegal.

0points

Stefan 3 years ago

There is a need for education about communication and marketing in schools / highschools.

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Using your employment as leverage to keep your mouth shut.

For example. A temp agency i worked through tried to deduct the cost of ppe from my paycheck. I told them that legally, employers need to provide ppe to their employees. Not sell it to them. They threatened to fire me. I reported them to OSHA. They got fined and had to reimburse everyone their $15 deduction for ppe.

Temp agencies are f!@#$%g scams.

EDIT: PPE: "Personal Protective Equipment." Hard hat, safety glasses, gloves, steel tipped boots, etc.

ViciousKnids , Alan Myers Report

Final score:

70points

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Freya the Wanderer 3 years ago

On the other hand, temp agencies can be a help. Temp work has tided me over between permanent gigs. Don't write it off entirely. The temp system could still use some improvement, though.

10points

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#21

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Companies that stifle competition/innovation by buying smaller companies just to stop what the smaller company is doing.

LostNTheNoise , denisbin Report

Final score:

67points

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R Carson 3 years ago

Sad they are trying to do away with small business.

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#22

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Letting an employee go/easing them out instead of addressing a situation they brought up.

AndroWanda , USAG- Humphreys Report

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64points

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R Carson 3 years ago

YEP

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#23

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group I've seen so many to name just one. Here's the worse I've seen.

So, PCB are highly toxic, highly carcinogenic stuff used mainly as coolant in power transformers. Heavy industries often have their own transformers, usually on the roof of their building. When these transformers get old, they need to be replaced, and the PCB need to be destroyed properly. However, doing this properly is very costly.

So, a solution is to wait for a rainy day, then pour the PCB in the gutters on the roof of the heavy industry's building (where the power transformers typically are). This way they disperse on the ground and noone is the wiser.

Well, since then, laws were changed to make sure that all power transformers are labelled and tracked by the government, to ensure their proper disposal. Still, sometimes a few older units get overlooked. And this is how I learned of this trick... the heavy industry's building is in the middle of a large city, with kids playing nearby and all. F these f-ers.

norgue , LHOON Report

Final score:

63points

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Bacony Cakes 3 years ago

I think they should be sued into the dirt before they Bhopal the place.

18points

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group A company having a business model that relies on charging fees for breaking its own rules without justification for them.

Looking at you CreditOne.
- Has a late payment fee but refuses to add any kind of auto-payment. In 2017.
- Takes 5 days to clear a normal payment. Pay 4 days before your bill is due? That's a late payment fee. Want your payment to clear earlier to avoid that fee? Pay an express payment fee! Its the same fee amount? Lordy! What a coincidence!

philipwithpostral , 401(K) 2012 Report

Final score:

61points

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Nathan Pogorzala 3 years ago

Holy s**t is that predatory. The fact that an entire company accepts this as best practice shows that it is all rigged against us. squeeze every cent out of us, hook or crook.

23points

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#25

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Rocketing the price of stuff and putting a "sale."

Barack-YoMama , osde8info Report

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60points

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Tweetysvoice 3 years ago

Not unlike the companies that give a 50% coupon only off items not on sale, yet 99% of their stock is on sale. -looking at you big craft stores.

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30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Ok so this is becoming really common in my neck of the woods. Basically a company need someone to fill a role. Instead of giving them a job and all the perks like paid holidays etc they instead hire you as a contractor. This means you still have to play by their rules as to when they want you in but you get non of the perks besides your wage. No sick days, no holidays nothing.

I'm not referring to high paying jobs where a lot of the time being a contractor is the way to go. This system has been implemented over her for retail/service jobs. You end up making less since you get paid the same as permanent workers but you are entitled to no bonuses, paid holiday or sick days. When you're working a minimal wage job this is nasty.

Irishbread , David B. Gleason Report

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55points

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Pat Bond 3 years ago

This sounds like a "Zero Hours" contract in the UK.

7points

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#27

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Public school teacher here. My school has started to deduct vacation/sick hours if teachers forget to swipe in. We’re basically there all the time anyways and don’t get paid overtime so clocking in is pretty easy to forget. What ends up happening is teachers get their accumulated vacay/sick hours deducted WHILE actively teaching, all because of a forgotten swipe. The admin and district people didn’t seem to see how absolutely unethical this practice is and I never got back 4 days of vacay hours from missed swipes.

lmac187 , Lead Beyond Report

Final score:

51points

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Cathy Jo Baker 3 years ago

You have to actually swipe in? Holy cow, what kind of school corp do you teach in? Damn!

12points

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#28

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Refusing to pay overtime for overtime. I saw it happen all the time. I didn't complain. I got promoted a bunch.

Zaorish9 , Fabio Venni Report

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49points

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Marnie 3 years ago

It happens because you didn't complain.

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Taking advantage of recent grads/bad market to take in people who will accept s@#$%y conditions, then kicking them out if/when they complain and getting more new faces.

something4222 Report

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47points

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Sam Chilton 3 years ago

Happens all the time.

6points

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#30

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group In Australia, Subway claimed "Foot Long" was a trade marked name, and not a suggestion of sizing, after many people pointed out their subs were well under a foot long.

RedLeader7 , Simon Shek Report

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46points

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BasedWang 3 years ago

yea, this is just subway being subway

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#31

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Some degree of false advertising. My food never looks like it does on the menu. My internet is never as fast as advertised. The contractor never finishes when he says he will.

DrKhaylomsky , il-young ko Report

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18points

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R Carson 3 years ago

Check in to how food is "staged" for commercials. Quite interesting.

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#32

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Using unpaid intern as worker. They have the exact same tasks has everyone else, they work the same hours, even more because they think that if they work more they will be noticed and hired (they won't), and it's rare that their supervisor take the time to teach them anything. They have to figure out things by themselves. Of course most struggle, and it's use as an excuse to not hire them.

shrekine , USAG- Humphreys Report

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17points

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Cactus McCoy 3 years ago

Aaaaand again .. you guessed it... illegal. Unpaid interns may only be unpaid if their internship is educational. If they do actual work, they must be paid the national minimum wage of, I guess, 9,60€.

8points

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#33

People give no f@#$s about your luggage or parcel, they get dropped, thrown around everyday behind the close door, especially heavy items.

leyland1989 Report

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17points

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littlesaresare 3 years ago

And then you have to pay for insurance or careful handling fees if you want the couriers to actually do their f*****g jobs. What other industry do you have to give someone extra money to compensate them in case they decide to lose or destroy your stuff!?

2points

#34

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Car salesman. Almost no other product has someone who makes money selling you a product you already want. That the price for the product is negotiable. Some people can haggle a few thousand off the price while little old ladies get taken for as much as possible. And that there are laws requiring you to buy them through dealers instead of direct from the manufacturer if you know what you want.

azsheepdog , JCT 600 Report

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16points

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R Carson 3 years ago

Mechanics also love to take advantage of women.

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#35

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Comcast's pricing strategy where they raise the price an absurd amount from one month to the next and just hope customers aren't paying attention or too passive to complain.

Negative_Goodwill , Mike Mozart Report

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15points

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James016 3 years ago

Every time my Virgin Media contract is up I call the retentions team and they just bump the cost right back down.

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#36

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Online stores advertise their products at attractively lower prices but you will never really be able to get the product for that price because they will add extra charges somehow.

[deleted] , Lordcolus Report

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14points

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R Carson 3 years ago

Shipping/handeling rip offs.

6points

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#37

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Fake promotions. There's a role you can apply for that doesn't have any extra pay or benefits, in which you do the same work as the role above that (which is higher paid) in the hopes that eventually you'll be the next in line to actually be given that next position. Except you won't.

shongage , FTTUB Report

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14points

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#38

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Government contracting. Building a thing to "specs" but not entirely up to full functionality. Knowing the issues that can/will arise, doing nothing about it, and then make the government cut a whole different (and very profitable) contract to fix said problems.

lurch350z , Mussi Katz Report

Final score:

14points

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Sam Chilton 3 years ago

Grenfell. Whose code that was up to can get sodomised forever.

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#39

There was a post about 'things your employer don't want the public to know', and I was amazed to see people say how common it was for a woman to be hired (in the tech industry mainly) basically to flirt with potential male business clients.

The aim was to make them nervous/uncomfortable so the company would have the upper hand in negotiations.

Wouldn't exactly call that ethical.

loud_flame Report

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10points

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R Carson 3 years ago

I't's not.

4points

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#40

30 Unethical But Very Common Tactics In Business As Pointed Out By Folks In This Online Group Nominal weights and measures that don't match actual weights and measures. My company sells by the each but each item has a nominal weight. We intentionally produce our product approximately 10% light to save raw material costs.

[deleted] , Justin Dolske Report

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7points

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dev mehta 3 years ago (edited)

You are saying companies cheat by giving consumers 10% less product that the weight mentioned on package? That should make these companies sitting ducks for sure-to-win class action lawsuits.

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