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“I Wish People Understood What It’s Like”: Uber Eats Delivery Man Breaks Down, Shares Behind-The-Scenes Moment From His Car
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“I Wish People Understood What It’s Like”: Uber Eats Delivery Man Breaks Down, Shares Behind-The-Scenes Moment From His Car

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Do we still consider delivery drivers to be essential workers and everyday heroes or has the fascination worn off and we’re taking them for granted again? If the money they make on the job is anything to go by, many people have definitely forgotten about their struggles making ends meet during a global pandemic. But it’s not just the customers who barely tip who are the problem, it’s the delivery companies and how much they’re willing to pay who are the issue, too.

Delivery driver Smithson Michael went viral after posting a candid and emotional video telling everyone about the unseen side of his job. The driver has been working in the Riverdale section of the Bronx in New York for just over a year, since December 2020. And the reality of the job is that many drivers don’t even make enough to cover the costs of using their cars to get around town.

“I just spent an hour driving around for a $1.19 tip. […] I got a $1.19 tip and two dollars from the app,” the man says on TikTok, wiping tears from his eyes. “I wish people knew what it’s like to drive for these services.”

Bored Panda reached out to Smithson to talk about working in New York as a delivery driver, his viral video, how he’s trying to help his fellow coworkers, and where he thinks the food service industry can improve for the better. He was kind enough to answer our questions.

“When I started this message, I knew it would be a challenge to be heard. I know how skeptical some can be, of anything they might see or hear on the internet. Some may not think it’s real— or that it just can’t be that bad because they might know someone that does well, or do well themselves doing it. That’s troubling because I see articles to this day of other deliverers’ bad experiences,” he shared with Bored Panda.

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“I’ve seen deliverers get hit on their scooters, even some that had them stolen while they were delivering. I’ve seen some attacked and robbed, their cars stolen while delivering— doing that work is more dangerous than many might think or realize. Practically every deliverer save a few have expressed to me that they make very little compared to how much they deliver. And contrary to what some might think—they approach it as a full-time job to make ends meet. Many of them, having families.” Scroll down for our full in-depth interview with Smithson.

Scroll down for Smithson’s full viral video, as well as his follow-up TikToks, Pandas. Share your thoughts in the comments and, if you’ve ever worked as a delivery driver, tell us about your experience. If you’d like to help Smithson fight for change for his fellow delivery drivers, you can sign his petition on Change.org. Meanwhile, you can support him directly through GoFundMe, PayPal, and Venmo.

More info: TikTok | Twitter | Petition | Support

In a video that has echoed around the world, Smithson shared how difficult it is to make ends meet as a delivery driver in New York

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Here is the full video

@itssmithsonmichael #helpme #ubereatsdriver #traction #positiveforce ♬ original sound – Smithson Michael

Smithson told Bored Panda that he’s seen a lot of people telling him and other delivery drivers to find another source of income and to quit their current jobs. “That would be devastating to many that need the services, or just enjoy the convenience of being able to have foods delivered to them.”

Meanwhile, some internet users have been very mean and even insulting, making a lot of false assumptions. “I just think that as human beings, we need to increase the kindness and understanding in this world, in response to that. That it is free—it doesn’t cost a thing. And also, it doesn’t hurt or cost to listen with an open heart and an unbiased ear.”

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According to Smithson, being out there with all the other deliverers got him thinking about what he can do to help them. He thought that he wouldn’t be heard because he’s just one person.

“I never imagined that I would be heard by so many. Imagine starting out from scratch, no one knowing who you are, set out on such a monumental task. I was almost resigned to thinking that it was pointless. Like, who would listen to me? Versus a billion-dollar company?” he said that he never expected to have his voice heard all over the world.

“My desire to make a difference, to help other drivers, kept me going even when it seemed like no one cared about what I had to say about this. It feels incredibly good to know that now this is a topic people are seeing in different countries, languages—and caring! Knowing that deliverers worldwide will get a little bit of extra coin in their pockets per trip potentially because of these videos is an amazingly rewarding feeling,” he said.

Smithson feels like he made an impact that will make the food service industry take a good long look at how they treat and pay their employees. Hopefully, they’ll make changes to their work models so that delivery drivers get better compensation and get treated better.

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According to the video creator, the issue is one that’s broader than just the food service industry. “This could even affect any sector, as this is not just about a particular business solely: it’s about the way we treat each other as human beings. The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once famously said, ‘Life’s most pressing and urgent question: What have you done for others?’

What’s more, the delivery driver wants the companies to consider their customers’ opinions more, too. For instance, regarding high delivery fees. “After all, without customers, there is no business. Just like if there are no deliverers, there is no way to get the items to the customers,” he said that it will take everyone uniting and sharing their thoughts with the corporations to get them to change their ways. Smithson thinks that companies are perfectly capable of making the change, considering their vast financial resources and trained professionals working for them.

The man voices the concerns that a lot of food service industry employees have

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According to the delivery driver, it’s “understandable and necessary in running a business” to keep the profit margin up. However, it all comes down to how this affects employees.

“How much sense does it make to pay someone the equivalent of less than minimum wage per hour, no matter if they work one, four, or twelve, when you have many working for the corporation making millions per year, with perks, and extra bonuses in the millions as well? When it all comes down to it, why is the value of the deliverer so low when it comes to the dollar paid for the wait, for the mile, for the delivery? That’s when it becomes grey, and you’re referred to an FAQ page on a site that explains policies on tipping and compensation. That’s when there’s ‘no comment.’ It’s been years since these companies have been up and running, and the answers and methods remain the same.”

Smithson said that when deliverers get fed up and quit, these companies rely on new recruits which they draw in using “aggressive advertising on social media.”

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In another video, the driver said that companies need to step up

The delivery driver was very upfront with Bored Panda that doing what he does in New York is dangerous “on a traffic and crime level.”

He said: “You have to be aware at all times, no matter how you’re delivering. You have to be extremely resourceful due to the layout of the city and traffic as well. And you also have to be extremely patient. Anything can happen. And you’re delivering large parcels, expensive items, not just hot food from a restaurant.”

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Smithson explained that delivery drivers need to balance their own safety with punctuality. “Timeliness is needed of course, as well as ensuring the quality of the condition of the said items that are being delivered. But you have to look out for yourself. Watch out for traffic, lock your doors when you get out of the car, lock your bike or scooter if you’re using one of those,” he said.

“Keep in touch with your customer. If they’re not answering, chat or call customer service for the app you’re delivering for. I know it’s frustrating because some of the apps don’t even have that— another issue many say is a very big problem when completing an order. If that’s the case then call the restaurant or store and let them know.”

The delivery driver stressed the importance of being respectful to the customers at all times and no matter what happens.

“You’re not just representing yourself, you’re representing the company, and other deliverers after you. If you’re upset it’s understandable. You’re working, not getting paid much, I get it. You don’t want to be blamed for things that are out of your control. Remember that they paid for these items and that not everyone is going to be polite. That’s why you have to be polite for them. It works. Even if it stings to suck it up,” he shared some advice.

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“I want the customers to know I care just as much about them as I do about getting them their order on time, and intact. I know some of them can afford to pay a high fee and a tip, and for the item delivered. I still want you to know that despite that, I care. If you can ever spare it though, know that a tip can make or break a deliverer’s day, and that means paying bills to keep afloat,” he told Bored Panda.

You can watch Smithson’s follow-up video right here

@itssmithsonmichael Billion dollar companies- if everyone stops delivering for a “real job” what would THAT feel like #positiveforce #fyp #itssmithsonmichael #traction #tiktok ♬ original sound – Smithson Michael

“Delivering for these app services felt like a desperate attempt to salvage my life. The pandemic has made the demand for delivery services reach an unprecedented high. Out there, I found that the need for things ranging from food to gas-powered scooters on delivery—is astronomical. However, the pay is not,” Smithson writes on his GoFundMe campaign page.

Meanwhile, the delivery driver calls out corporate greed in the description of his petition on Change.org. “Food deliverers are out risking their lives in this global pandemic to bring food and supplies to folks and are being exploited by companies like Uber eats and DoorDash—working for criminally low rates as a contractor,” he writes.

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“These gig economy apps are charging astronomical fees to both customers and restaurants, sometimes putting restaurants in the position of losses because of the fees they have to pay. And the drivers are only receiving a few dollars for their time, effort, and wear and tear on their vehicle.”

Smithson continues: “There are major systemic issues that need to be addressed to fix this, but in the meantime, drivers are relying on customer tips to survive. Not receiving a tip on an order can sometimes result in a financial loss for the driver after gas and vehicle maintenance. It’s time to hold these companies accountable.”

On Twitter, he reiterates that the responsibility to ensure that delivery drivers get paid a decent wage “ultimately falls on the companies.” He highlighted the fact that he still believes that customer tips should still be left at their discretion. “App delivery services need to compensate deliverers better!” he stressed, pointing out that tips really should remain optional.

Smithson describes himself as “the voice of the food service industry workers.” He points out that they “deserve respect, proper pay, and better treatment.”

“No one deserves to work, and be paid so little. Especially not in an unprecedented time where the demand for these services is at an all-time high,” he noted how unfair the situation is where we rely on delivery drivers so much, yet they often struggle to make ends meet.

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In yet another video, Smithson explains how drivers’ cars get worn down on the job

@itssmithsonmichael #fyp #ubereatsdriver #foryou #help #fypシ ♬ original sound – Smithson Michael

Smithson told BuzzFeed that, on average, tips for a single delivery range from nothing to around 4 dollars.

“A twenty is super rare, a ten is rare, and a five makes me feel good. That’s how scarce it can be. A small tip is so defeating, it makes me want to cry. Bills, debts, and future endeavors all seem so far away when you get three dollars or less for all that waiting, driving to pick up and drop off the order in a timely fashion—ensuring everything is perfect—to only drive away with barely enough to get your tank off of empty,” he told BuzzFeed.

“We are at the mercy of the restaurant or businesses’ schedule when we accept an order. All we can do is wait until they give it to us to get it to the customer. So, when a customer is unwilling to tip because of the fact that they had to wait a long time, it is not always our fault,” he noted that they might lose money due to factors outside of their control.

According to Smithson, Uber pays delivery drivers cents per mile driven. “And it’s a few cents per minute for the wait and to pick up food,” he pointed out that they get punished for getting stuck in traffic. Though Uber offers drivers some support to take care of their vehicles (e.g. giving them 15% off on new tires and oil changes), many feel like it’s not enough.

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“I want people to realize that these app services do not pay for every aspect of the ordeal that we, as delivery drivers, have to go through to get these orders to you. It’s not always just a bag of hot food. Sometimes it’s 20 bags of groceries, with five cases of water in them and multiple boxes of bottles. Other times, it’s items that can be delicate and heavy. The pay per delivery is very low despite the mileage driven or wait time for food and, again, we are not paid to be stuck in traffic,” Smithson told BuzzFeed.

“Uber—and all delivery app services—should pay more to deliverers. People are driving, walking, scooting, and biking in all types of weather conditions—day and night. It’s dangerous out there at times when you consider weather conditions, traffic, and crime. If no one tips, you’re working eight to ten hours shifts for $30 to $40 dollars total. The advertising these billion-dollar companies put out there regarding pay per hour is not accurate at all.”

Here’s how some social media users reacted to the issues that Smithson brought up

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And here’s what people on TikTok had to say. Some of them were fellow delivery drivers just like Smithson

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Eppe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A tip should be a nice little bonus, not an essential part of someone's wage.

Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always tip service employees, but they shouldn’t have to depend on that.

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Tams21
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think the onus ought to be on customers to know how much they need to tip a worker in order for the worker to feed themselves or stop them from becoming homeless. If a system allows someone to work full time and actually end up with less money than they had to begin with (with expenses like gas) then that system is terribly, terribly broken and employers are going to abuse it. I get his sentiment though - he needs to survive and the most effective way for him to do that is to ask the customers to pay more - fair enough. However, I think the employer and the regulators have the moral obligation to ensure he can live from his wages, not the customer.

Sasha
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its the same onus corporations put on consumers over polution. Produce most of the polution but then say its our job to conserve water etc. The irony cherry on top is that after they tell us its our problem to solve and consumers reply "ok were gonna solve it by not buying from you then" they cry like theyre being terrorized. You taking responsibility for their s**t and still using their products us exactly what they want. Boycott uber or promote change via legislature (as hard as that is) dont just quietly clean up their mess and expect things to change.

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CatWoman312
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s sickening that once again the customer is expected to pay someone’s salary. The delivery fees are anywhere from $3 to $10 and processing fees are 20% of the order. We’re already pay $10+ just for the delivery itself and the tip on top of that. That $12 sandwich ends up being $30. I always tip the drivers, but I’m not giving them a buttload of money when I already spent that for the actual delivery. Be mad at the company, not the customer.

SmithsonMichael
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to help all deliverers! Thank you for taking the time to read this article. God bless.

Troll
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get a job in the trades. Make good money, get vacation and get a retirement.

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I I
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it annoys me that companies expect the customer to pay for the service and tip so their workers can afford to live while they make billions PAY YOUR WORKERS BETTER FFS

Péter Rózsahegyi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's strange how different view Americans and Europeans have about tips. In Amercia, it's the wage of the delivery people, in Europe (at least in the part I know) tipping is optional and is given for the extra service. Getting things I ordered online is not an extra service. Being a attentive and helpful waiter is an extra and tipping would not left out. Once I was in 'murica and took a flight over the Grand Canyon in a small Cessna. There was a flyer on the back of the pilot's seat that required us to pay 'at least $50 tips' to the pilot. What the hell??? Tipping airplane pilots? That sounds crazy in EU. My heart is with the American delivery people. I think they sould unite and ask for their fair wages. Their livelihood should not depend on the unsure tipping.

Henry Williams
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have always mostly only had one set of people that are always tipped and that's people that provide a service while handling your food. Not necessarily the people who specifically bring you your food, but if they serve you, and refill drinks and do a lot of extra stuff then they get tips. However, this mindset has been perverted significantly since I was young, and now all people who make low wages believe they are fully entitled to a "tip" which is usually reserved for extra services. I would rather pay the extra $5 on my $20 sandwich and have my server paid a regular wage than to tip $5 just because someone walked my food from the kitchen to my table and then abandoned me for 30 minutes with no refills. Yet, those people would still feel entitled to a tip ...

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Sasha
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping is litteraly just encouraging this. Why should uber pay their drivers when they can just make it their customers optional problem. I get the issue, i get people have it hard, but uber wont change unless they have no choice, and with tips subsidizing their bullshit policies they never will. You tip your driver, it makes his life maybe a little easier but he continues to work a shitty underpaying job in poverty into perpetuity. All the drivers walk out because uber doesent pay enough to make it worth it though, then things can change. I know its not that simple, i know its all that some people have, thats why policy should be dictating these things. But as long as you tip just enough that uber can keep doing what it does, this problem will NEVER go away, it will only get worse. Tips went from 10% to 20% where i live in 15 years. And im not complaining that its too much, im saying that companies have gotten away with paying less and less over that time, cause we let them.

Pablo Ramos
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My take on this issue is that corporations don't pay their employees well and outsource that responsibility to their customers. And society guilt-trips us into covering the deficit. This is obscene. I tip because I can't change America, but if we all de used to boycott tipping for a month, (No-Tip March) or whatever, firms would have to pay living wages. Only in the USA this happens.

Martha Meyer
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And here I naively thought delivery drivers got a company car with gas being paid for by the company and a fixed wage for the hours worked.

De Gueb
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you see the commercials on the TV it sure looks good, Uber, doordash, Glovo or whatever they are called in different countries. In Spain they passed a law recognizing the works as staff and must have their social security etc paid for. It’s taking a while, but we are getting there. What I don’t get is a bunch of fat slobs that are to lazy to cook, go out for a meal or even pop out to pick up some food expect it to delivered for a tip. What do people expect, I find it hard to understand

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Yort
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don’t use ubereats or DoorDash, they charge so much in fees that it’s more expensive for you as the customer and it cuts hugely into the profit of the restaurant you’re ordering from. Most restaurants have their own delivery services, use them instead. Also the actual restaurant’s delivery service isn’t as likely to leave your food sitting out for two hours because you didn’t tip enough.

Eddie Tran
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No profit loss. Do your research more. It all falls on you the customer. Say a food item costs $10 at restaurant. On Door dash, it will be something like $11.50 for example. The costs that would be incurred on the business is then opted out and put into the raising the items price, adding service fees at point of sale. Hence why your $10 burrito is costing almost $25-30 to be delivered. The answer, people need to stop using the service, drivers stop working for the business. But really will that happen? Likely not. People cannot come together for anything these days. This is America.

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Lemonclouds20
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is quite an emotive topic, ultimately the company should pay a living wage ad relying on tips is not sustainable. Drivers should boycott the companies until they learn to pay better.

Kyndal T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I deliver. It is the companies fault we make so little but you aren't getting fed if you're not tipping. We choose what orders to take. Not the company, not the customer. No tip, no food. Punishing us with no tips doesn't punish the company. They still send out the no tip orders. Only the most desperate deliver them. DoorDash doesn't care if you tip. If you can't afford the luxury of delivery, don't order. Changing the system isn't as easy as just not tipping. And I'm tired of the argument that I chose my job. Yes, I did. Does that mean I don't deserve to make enough to live on? I guess everyone at every single minimum wage job should just walk away. That'd show them, right? Blame the employee for where they work and not the system that gives them no other option. Every job matters and should pay enough to live on.

Bobby
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Very well expressed... thank you for a eye opening glimpse into the challenges faced by drivers. I've never used the service but a friend drives for Door Dash. He's homeless and living in his truck. It's winter. Snow on the ground. He works until the wee hours of morning in city with population about 40,000, but still cannot afford housing.

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anarkzie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Customers should not be expected to supplement this guys pay. Form a union or something and fight for fair pay.

Lola
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivering jobs like door dash and Uber eats are not meant to be full time jobs and the companies have been banking on that for a while now. They pay you peanuts because they know it’s a side hassle. The real question here is why do people have to work part time jobs on top of their full time gigs to make ends meet? Can we normalize working only one job or is that too much to ask for? It shouldn’t be ok for these companies to keep banking on the idea that a part time side hassle is supposed to pay peanuts.

John Montgomery
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd like to see second jobs become illegal, but for that to happen everyone has to paid a living wage.

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Eddie Tran
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but expecting the customer to pay your living wages is missing the point. Most of these people also are patrons and are not tipping well either. Why because we cannot afford that extra cost that should NOT be a cost at all period. Delivery services already charge %30-40 over the final price had we went to eh establishment ourselves. That's not tips included! So really, you all need to either make a fuss with your employer or STOP working their. The more you expect customers to pay you, the more your employer leans on that bad practice, putting you against the customer. You are wasting your time and efforts grieving customers for your pay. Just quit. Once these businesses understand they have now worked and cannot function, they will sort out what is fair. Guaranteed. But hey, someone is likely willing to take your place. So, it still comes back to you. Get a different job.

Isabella
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uber takes money for delivery - those should 100% go to the carriers. End of story. I am disabled person - i order rarely and when I am unable to cook myself. I will not pay 20% of my order every time to tip someone, because I cannot afford that. I treat deliver as a last-call to eat in bad days. It should be taken against the company not against the people who order food.

Zophra
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This job would pay more if more people actually did quit. Meaning, Uber Eats,etc. would have to actually guarantee some decent pay to recruit people to deliver since they depend on it.

Xenon
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And yet Doordash will charge me a $25 delivery fee.. who does that go to??

Lou Lopez
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I try to always tip in cash: I'm not tipping Starbucks, I'm tipping my barrista. Credit card tips can be skimmed by the company, cash can be hidden.

Eiram
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a delivery company in my island hometown (US). No Uber, Grubhub or Postmates here, we set our prices as premium (meaning it is more than enough to make it worth doing) so that people don't feel obligated to tip. Some people do, but I'm NOT going to be bothered by anyone who is poor and looking for a once a month treat and only pays our rate.

Jake Camacho
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People who don't work in the industry really shouldn't comment. You don't know what it is like for us, you are often the type of person that refuses to tip and makes our nights worse. If everyone tipped $3 most drivers would be happy...in a dinner rush we would take anywhere from 15-30 deliveries. If you can't afford a $3 tip go pick it up yourself. As for the idea that the employer should pay more for unskilled labor, if you demand that you are going to lock a lot of people out of a job that can pay really well with almost no work experience needed (over 5 years I rarely made less than 19/hr with the high being 34/hr). If Uber eats isn't paying, apply elsewhere. If people aren't tipping, find a different area to work in and effect change in your circle so that hopefully people will realize how helpful $3 can be.

Jake Camacho
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Worked for Dominos for 5 years in CT pay was solid with some of the full timers making 55-60,000 a year with a large portion of it being tips meaning untaxed income. The downside of course was we didn't have many benefits besides a 401k that I unfortunately never got to take advantage of because I left the company for a year and you had to have been working for the company for a year to qualify. As for wear and tear on the car? Absolutely it is a thing and people don't understand that we spend a lot of money maintaining our cars so that we can keep working (don't be dumb like me and drive a car you enjoy, drive something that gets the job done and keeps you warm/cool). Even before the minimum wage increase we were still making good money in this job and it always made me annoyed when people tried to argue, "they should just pay you more". First of all untaxed money is better than taxed, second it's unskilled labor, third inflation exists and 15 is now considered low by some people

Veronica Sjöberg
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The issue is not people not giving enough tips. The issue is that the companies should pay their workers enough. Tips should never be someones paycheck. That way the companies put all the responsible on the customer just so the company can earn even more money. I don't get how that's legal.

Izzy_
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the those food delivery companies and restaurants alike that don't pay their employees a fair wage. I ordered from Uber eats once bc I had nothing to eat for lunch and MY GOD the fees we're crazy!! But at that time I thought the drivers got at least $5 bucks plus tip

Carol Emory
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I tip according to a few things. If you are doing more than just driving (aka..shop for the items too)...I tip you more. If the weather is super fowl and you still come to my front door...I tip you more. If you I know you've had to deal with a hassle to get the items to me...I tip you more. At minimum...I give $5. The most I've tipped was $40 to a woman that shopped and delivered the day before a holiday. This was recently during this pandemic. She was smiling from ear to ear saying she could get the replacement cord for her kids laptop so he could keep up with school. My husband is a web developer and had tons of power cords. I found one for her sons laptop. She tried to give me back the money and I said "keep it. No give backs." She laughed and said "Thanks!" and left with a hop in her step.

celery g
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when a company adds admin fees, delivery fees, and then we're still expected to tip? taking the f*****g p**s! And this drama queen is making it a customer issue, ugh! the second you cry on a tik tok, my consideration and respect are gone! You're a f*****g clown!

alloutbikes@yahoo.com
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I ordered with a friend and we paid almost twice what we would have if we had gone to the restaurant. Then we gave a tip. Plus we had to wait a while for our food. Won't use delivery again.

Michael Wilmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I saw his comments he texted to a customer. Sleazy, nasty and uncalled for. He threw the order in a tree. No. I do not support someone so vindictive

PADNA
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's not my responsibility to pay you a salary,- it's your employers. If your employer keeps you on a slavery terms - look for a better fking job. Choose between good hours and good salary. Sometimes you can't have both.

rabbit
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone should be earning a minimum wage that allows them to live. That's on the companies to provide. Retail people and those in the food industry should not be making less that the minimum wage and the minimum wage is too damn low! In the meantime, the entire delivery charge should be going to the driver. The company makes its money on the food and it's cheaper because they aren't providing sit-down space.

Karen Lyon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why I don't rely on the "gig" economy. The owners of those companies have more money than God and treat their workers like crap. I had a friend who did the "gig" thing, and she worked way too hard while getting paid peanuts. In the long run, it's not going to be a sustainable way to make a living. On the rare occasions when I do decide I want something delivered, I give a generous tip. But for the most part, I'll pick up my dinner and do my own grocery shopping. I do it for the same reason I avoid going to Walmart: I'm not enabling that dysfunctional section of the economy.

Charack Obamazard
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just trying to save ya come tax season. Less needles for the homeless, ya dig?

Michael Gordon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery services are hurting restaurants too. They charge us fees to use their service, which cuts into the minimal profit made of food. If they came into restaurant we could puah more liquor and make good money. Then there is no tip left for the restaurant staff that prepared and bagged the food. This leads to less income for in house staff and makes staff harder to keep on. We also had to hire another pwrson for togo but they are making almost no tips per shift. In all i belive grubhub, doordash, etc hurts restaurants more than it helps.

Henry Williams
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is this? When, in the history of our country, have there been more companies out there hiring for workers. We are having a lack of working people crisis in our country. This is the absolute best time to say "if you don't like your job, go find a new one". Every job is hiring! Don't cry in your dang car over how hard your job is!!! I always try to be as sympathetic as I can be, but I am so done with this "crying over tips" culture. I don't even use these delivery companies because I can't trust these freaking people to be honest with my food. I literally can't even understand the mindset of someone that would cry over not getting paid enough at a contract job.

Cassy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery services should be paying drivers a base rate plus current gas mileage rate, plus at minimum workers comp and insurance just as any other company. I currently rely a lot on drivers. Not because I'm wealthy actually we are struggling hard right now. But, my husband has CPS and cancer and I damaged my arm and needed surgery so had to take a leave of absence. Neither of us is physically of doing the bare minimum of shopping. I'm not getting a paycheck right now, his SSD is $700/mo. Haven't received confirmation I will get paid leave. We are living off credit cards, but I pay 20% or more for small deliveries and made a big stock up order that I tipped $50. We have to support each other because the corporate heads won't. They are too concerned about making their next million dollar bonus.

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Amanda Todd
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man signed up knowing this, he's probably trying to get an instant GoFundMe me like dumbass glue girl.

SmithsonMichael
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Excuse me! I’m going to ignore your disrespect, and say have a nice day! Wow!

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No More
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop relying on tips, the only way this will change for the better ever is if people stop working under the conditions they are complaining of. If the job doesn't pay well, find another. And if you don't have that option right now, make the necessary personal changes so it becomes possible for you.

Rey Nazzo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is more than enough federal and state programs that will help individuals who are unskilled develop a skill that is in high demand. Sure poverty exists, and getting tossed into it is nobodys fault. Staying there is.

Tronald Dump
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all USA should take a look at how things are done in Europe. Normal wages are paid instead of making workers depend on tips. Don't blame the customer, blame the organisation. Sure, food might be a bit more expensive but everyone gets what they're due. Second of all, i tell EVERYONE that work for uber eats to find a better job. They don't care about you, you're just a easily replacable cog in a money machine that is made to make a few people rich while standing on the backs of people doing 10 times more work than themselves. Tips are bullshit, no one should have to depend on the good will of others, especially if you don't even trust them to be decent folks in the first place. Tips are a compliment for a job well done, nothing more nothing less. Fight the system, not the customers.

Enby.Minecraft.Bee.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yay America!😐 Okay but for real somebody in one of the richest countries in the world shouldn't have to live off of tips.

KimB
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To everyone saying don't like it get another job that pays more/better, yes "everyone" is hiring now, but that doesn't mean that good paying jobs are easy to get. Employers can look at everything from your criminal background , education to credit score. If you're a convicted felon this is even more of a challenge. Having one job that pays a livable wage is a luxury for some folks.

DC
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I tip in person. Coins or bills. What I order usually costs about 15 €, and takes about half an hour. 2.50 is minimum, and whatever I have on hand on top in small coins, usually making another 50 to 100 cent. Means, my tipping is roughly 3 € for 1/2 hour, equas 6 €/hr, which is about half minimum wage - and it took half an hour or so (usually, about that, sometimes 20, 40 minutes, ...). If they mess up the order, I complain, and get the corrected order - another tip unless the driver is the boss (happens, especially in complaint recovery). Bosses don't need tips. Tipping on the browser or app ... nah, goes straight in their pocket. Wordless, for their app my snitch them out.

Tamara Kroonen
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How sadly it is for the driver but this is not a customers problem. It is the problem of not getting a proper monthly salary. People should stop delivering for such companies. The system is wrong. Here in Europe people get monthly payments. It is a fulltime job after all. Doesn't matter how far you have to drive or how many deliveries you bring a day. In the end, we all get paid the same monthly salary. Because it is a job. Just like any other job. Same goes for being a waiter in a restaurant. At least minimal wage and a proper monthly salary. We only tip because it is a custom, not because we have to. And poor families don't tip. And nobody is blaming them.

Frannie Kaplan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The job market for millenials sucks. Nobody chooses to be a stressed out delivery driver

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Aubrie Allen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't tip, you can't afford to order out or go to a restaurant. Period!

Nadine
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wasn't this whole thing from a long time ago? There was a go fund me page for him? And yes, they deserve tips.

Misha Writer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A tip should be just that, a tip. Something extra to say thank you to the person providing a service. Unfortunately, that is not the case in the good old U. S. of A. Those service workers depend on tips because their base pay is ridiculously low. As a result, I give a minimum of 20% and often higher than that. During the lock down stage of the pandemic in my area, I gave a flat $10 on take out, unless the total was more than $30 then I bumped up. And that was me picking up the food. Now that I am able to eat in person, I usually figure 20%, minimum of $5. When I use a delivery service, I add at least $2.50 to what the app suggests for a tip, and often add more than that depending on distance and other factors such as weather and time of day and what not. It sucks that I have to pay the wages, but I understand that in this country food service is a low paying job, and I an grateful for the people who make the food I eat, and the people who deliver it to me whether server or driver.

Parmeisan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand the people saying they refuse to pay for a tip because the delivery fee is already so high. So don't get it delivered? Just pick it up yourself. WAY cheaper and used to be the only way you could even get the food (except pizza). If you can afford the delivery cost, you can afford the tip. If you can't afford both, don't get it delivered.

Bobby
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Short trips can be damaging to electronic components in Petrol *and Diesel engines. Modern vehicles replaced carburetors with ECM units that monitor air-fuel mixture. In petrol vehicles, short trips do not allow complete burn off and condensation becomes sludge, blocking sensors. In diesel, the DPF will gradually get clogged with the soot that it traps. Ideally, the soot is removed by heating this residue, turning it to ash and expelling it. The ECM is supposed to artificially raise engine temps to accomplish this. Short trips derail this process in both engines.

celery g
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

stop making the customer the one responsible for give you a paycheck! Stop working for a company that already gouges people with service fees and tax on that and raised prices.

Abi abs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boohoo I don't like my job, I can't earn any money at my job, but I'm going to stay working at my job that I hate so much so I can tell the world how much I hate it and get some sympathy.... Erm no, change your fricking job you idiot🤦. If you're working at a place that you have to rely on your tips to make your wage up to minimum then you're a mug for doing it. Murica land of opportunity🤦

Eric Steward
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't like the pay? Get another job. LITERALLY, everyone is hiring right now. You choose to stick it out, deal with what you get paid.

Andrea Heverly
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what you were getting into..I DD in bum*uck Indiana and make over $100 easily Something don't add up

Eppe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A tip should be a nice little bonus, not an essential part of someone's wage.

Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always tip service employees, but they shouldn’t have to depend on that.

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Tams21
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think the onus ought to be on customers to know how much they need to tip a worker in order for the worker to feed themselves or stop them from becoming homeless. If a system allows someone to work full time and actually end up with less money than they had to begin with (with expenses like gas) then that system is terribly, terribly broken and employers are going to abuse it. I get his sentiment though - he needs to survive and the most effective way for him to do that is to ask the customers to pay more - fair enough. However, I think the employer and the regulators have the moral obligation to ensure he can live from his wages, not the customer.

Sasha
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its the same onus corporations put on consumers over polution. Produce most of the polution but then say its our job to conserve water etc. The irony cherry on top is that after they tell us its our problem to solve and consumers reply "ok were gonna solve it by not buying from you then" they cry like theyre being terrorized. You taking responsibility for their s**t and still using their products us exactly what they want. Boycott uber or promote change via legislature (as hard as that is) dont just quietly clean up their mess and expect things to change.

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CatWoman312
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s sickening that once again the customer is expected to pay someone’s salary. The delivery fees are anywhere from $3 to $10 and processing fees are 20% of the order. We’re already pay $10+ just for the delivery itself and the tip on top of that. That $12 sandwich ends up being $30. I always tip the drivers, but I’m not giving them a buttload of money when I already spent that for the actual delivery. Be mad at the company, not the customer.

SmithsonMichael
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to help all deliverers! Thank you for taking the time to read this article. God bless.

Troll
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get a job in the trades. Make good money, get vacation and get a retirement.

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I I
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it annoys me that companies expect the customer to pay for the service and tip so their workers can afford to live while they make billions PAY YOUR WORKERS BETTER FFS

Péter Rózsahegyi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's strange how different view Americans and Europeans have about tips. In Amercia, it's the wage of the delivery people, in Europe (at least in the part I know) tipping is optional and is given for the extra service. Getting things I ordered online is not an extra service. Being a attentive and helpful waiter is an extra and tipping would not left out. Once I was in 'murica and took a flight over the Grand Canyon in a small Cessna. There was a flyer on the back of the pilot's seat that required us to pay 'at least $50 tips' to the pilot. What the hell??? Tipping airplane pilots? That sounds crazy in EU. My heart is with the American delivery people. I think they sould unite and ask for their fair wages. Their livelihood should not depend on the unsure tipping.

Henry Williams
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have always mostly only had one set of people that are always tipped and that's people that provide a service while handling your food. Not necessarily the people who specifically bring you your food, but if they serve you, and refill drinks and do a lot of extra stuff then they get tips. However, this mindset has been perverted significantly since I was young, and now all people who make low wages believe they are fully entitled to a "tip" which is usually reserved for extra services. I would rather pay the extra $5 on my $20 sandwich and have my server paid a regular wage than to tip $5 just because someone walked my food from the kitchen to my table and then abandoned me for 30 minutes with no refills. Yet, those people would still feel entitled to a tip ...

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Sasha
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping is litteraly just encouraging this. Why should uber pay their drivers when they can just make it their customers optional problem. I get the issue, i get people have it hard, but uber wont change unless they have no choice, and with tips subsidizing their bullshit policies they never will. You tip your driver, it makes his life maybe a little easier but he continues to work a shitty underpaying job in poverty into perpetuity. All the drivers walk out because uber doesent pay enough to make it worth it though, then things can change. I know its not that simple, i know its all that some people have, thats why policy should be dictating these things. But as long as you tip just enough that uber can keep doing what it does, this problem will NEVER go away, it will only get worse. Tips went from 10% to 20% where i live in 15 years. And im not complaining that its too much, im saying that companies have gotten away with paying less and less over that time, cause we let them.

Pablo Ramos
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My take on this issue is that corporations don't pay their employees well and outsource that responsibility to their customers. And society guilt-trips us into covering the deficit. This is obscene. I tip because I can't change America, but if we all de used to boycott tipping for a month, (No-Tip March) or whatever, firms would have to pay living wages. Only in the USA this happens.

Martha Meyer
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And here I naively thought delivery drivers got a company car with gas being paid for by the company and a fixed wage for the hours worked.

De Gueb
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you see the commercials on the TV it sure looks good, Uber, doordash, Glovo or whatever they are called in different countries. In Spain they passed a law recognizing the works as staff and must have their social security etc paid for. It’s taking a while, but we are getting there. What I don’t get is a bunch of fat slobs that are to lazy to cook, go out for a meal or even pop out to pick up some food expect it to delivered for a tip. What do people expect, I find it hard to understand

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Yort
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don’t use ubereats or DoorDash, they charge so much in fees that it’s more expensive for you as the customer and it cuts hugely into the profit of the restaurant you’re ordering from. Most restaurants have their own delivery services, use them instead. Also the actual restaurant’s delivery service isn’t as likely to leave your food sitting out for two hours because you didn’t tip enough.

Eddie Tran
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No profit loss. Do your research more. It all falls on you the customer. Say a food item costs $10 at restaurant. On Door dash, it will be something like $11.50 for example. The costs that would be incurred on the business is then opted out and put into the raising the items price, adding service fees at point of sale. Hence why your $10 burrito is costing almost $25-30 to be delivered. The answer, people need to stop using the service, drivers stop working for the business. But really will that happen? Likely not. People cannot come together for anything these days. This is America.

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Lemonclouds20
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is quite an emotive topic, ultimately the company should pay a living wage ad relying on tips is not sustainable. Drivers should boycott the companies until they learn to pay better.

Kyndal T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I deliver. It is the companies fault we make so little but you aren't getting fed if you're not tipping. We choose what orders to take. Not the company, not the customer. No tip, no food. Punishing us with no tips doesn't punish the company. They still send out the no tip orders. Only the most desperate deliver them. DoorDash doesn't care if you tip. If you can't afford the luxury of delivery, don't order. Changing the system isn't as easy as just not tipping. And I'm tired of the argument that I chose my job. Yes, I did. Does that mean I don't deserve to make enough to live on? I guess everyone at every single minimum wage job should just walk away. That'd show them, right? Blame the employee for where they work and not the system that gives them no other option. Every job matters and should pay enough to live on.

Bobby
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Very well expressed... thank you for a eye opening glimpse into the challenges faced by drivers. I've never used the service but a friend drives for Door Dash. He's homeless and living in his truck. It's winter. Snow on the ground. He works until the wee hours of morning in city with population about 40,000, but still cannot afford housing.

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anarkzie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Customers should not be expected to supplement this guys pay. Form a union or something and fight for fair pay.

Lola
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivering jobs like door dash and Uber eats are not meant to be full time jobs and the companies have been banking on that for a while now. They pay you peanuts because they know it’s a side hassle. The real question here is why do people have to work part time jobs on top of their full time gigs to make ends meet? Can we normalize working only one job or is that too much to ask for? It shouldn’t be ok for these companies to keep banking on the idea that a part time side hassle is supposed to pay peanuts.

John Montgomery
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd like to see second jobs become illegal, but for that to happen everyone has to paid a living wage.

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Eddie Tran
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but expecting the customer to pay your living wages is missing the point. Most of these people also are patrons and are not tipping well either. Why because we cannot afford that extra cost that should NOT be a cost at all period. Delivery services already charge %30-40 over the final price had we went to eh establishment ourselves. That's not tips included! So really, you all need to either make a fuss with your employer or STOP working their. The more you expect customers to pay you, the more your employer leans on that bad practice, putting you against the customer. You are wasting your time and efforts grieving customers for your pay. Just quit. Once these businesses understand they have now worked and cannot function, they will sort out what is fair. Guaranteed. But hey, someone is likely willing to take your place. So, it still comes back to you. Get a different job.

Isabella
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uber takes money for delivery - those should 100% go to the carriers. End of story. I am disabled person - i order rarely and when I am unable to cook myself. I will not pay 20% of my order every time to tip someone, because I cannot afford that. I treat deliver as a last-call to eat in bad days. It should be taken against the company not against the people who order food.

Zophra
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This job would pay more if more people actually did quit. Meaning, Uber Eats,etc. would have to actually guarantee some decent pay to recruit people to deliver since they depend on it.

Xenon
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And yet Doordash will charge me a $25 delivery fee.. who does that go to??

Lou Lopez
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I try to always tip in cash: I'm not tipping Starbucks, I'm tipping my barrista. Credit card tips can be skimmed by the company, cash can be hidden.

Eiram
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a delivery company in my island hometown (US). No Uber, Grubhub or Postmates here, we set our prices as premium (meaning it is more than enough to make it worth doing) so that people don't feel obligated to tip. Some people do, but I'm NOT going to be bothered by anyone who is poor and looking for a once a month treat and only pays our rate.

Jake Camacho
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People who don't work in the industry really shouldn't comment. You don't know what it is like for us, you are often the type of person that refuses to tip and makes our nights worse. If everyone tipped $3 most drivers would be happy...in a dinner rush we would take anywhere from 15-30 deliveries. If you can't afford a $3 tip go pick it up yourself. As for the idea that the employer should pay more for unskilled labor, if you demand that you are going to lock a lot of people out of a job that can pay really well with almost no work experience needed (over 5 years I rarely made less than 19/hr with the high being 34/hr). If Uber eats isn't paying, apply elsewhere. If people aren't tipping, find a different area to work in and effect change in your circle so that hopefully people will realize how helpful $3 can be.

Jake Camacho
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Worked for Dominos for 5 years in CT pay was solid with some of the full timers making 55-60,000 a year with a large portion of it being tips meaning untaxed income. The downside of course was we didn't have many benefits besides a 401k that I unfortunately never got to take advantage of because I left the company for a year and you had to have been working for the company for a year to qualify. As for wear and tear on the car? Absolutely it is a thing and people don't understand that we spend a lot of money maintaining our cars so that we can keep working (don't be dumb like me and drive a car you enjoy, drive something that gets the job done and keeps you warm/cool). Even before the minimum wage increase we were still making good money in this job and it always made me annoyed when people tried to argue, "they should just pay you more". First of all untaxed money is better than taxed, second it's unskilled labor, third inflation exists and 15 is now considered low by some people

Veronica Sjöberg
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The issue is not people not giving enough tips. The issue is that the companies should pay their workers enough. Tips should never be someones paycheck. That way the companies put all the responsible on the customer just so the company can earn even more money. I don't get how that's legal.

Izzy_
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the those food delivery companies and restaurants alike that don't pay their employees a fair wage. I ordered from Uber eats once bc I had nothing to eat for lunch and MY GOD the fees we're crazy!! But at that time I thought the drivers got at least $5 bucks plus tip

Carol Emory
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I tip according to a few things. If you are doing more than just driving (aka..shop for the items too)...I tip you more. If the weather is super fowl and you still come to my front door...I tip you more. If you I know you've had to deal with a hassle to get the items to me...I tip you more. At minimum...I give $5. The most I've tipped was $40 to a woman that shopped and delivered the day before a holiday. This was recently during this pandemic. She was smiling from ear to ear saying she could get the replacement cord for her kids laptop so he could keep up with school. My husband is a web developer and had tons of power cords. I found one for her sons laptop. She tried to give me back the money and I said "keep it. No give backs." She laughed and said "Thanks!" and left with a hop in her step.

celery g
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when a company adds admin fees, delivery fees, and then we're still expected to tip? taking the f*****g p**s! And this drama queen is making it a customer issue, ugh! the second you cry on a tik tok, my consideration and respect are gone! You're a f*****g clown!

alloutbikes@yahoo.com
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I ordered with a friend and we paid almost twice what we would have if we had gone to the restaurant. Then we gave a tip. Plus we had to wait a while for our food. Won't use delivery again.

Michael Wilmer
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I saw his comments he texted to a customer. Sleazy, nasty and uncalled for. He threw the order in a tree. No. I do not support someone so vindictive

PADNA
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's not my responsibility to pay you a salary,- it's your employers. If your employer keeps you on a slavery terms - look for a better fking job. Choose between good hours and good salary. Sometimes you can't have both.

rabbit
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone should be earning a minimum wage that allows them to live. That's on the companies to provide. Retail people and those in the food industry should not be making less that the minimum wage and the minimum wage is too damn low! In the meantime, the entire delivery charge should be going to the driver. The company makes its money on the food and it's cheaper because they aren't providing sit-down space.

Karen Lyon
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why I don't rely on the "gig" economy. The owners of those companies have more money than God and treat their workers like crap. I had a friend who did the "gig" thing, and she worked way too hard while getting paid peanuts. In the long run, it's not going to be a sustainable way to make a living. On the rare occasions when I do decide I want something delivered, I give a generous tip. But for the most part, I'll pick up my dinner and do my own grocery shopping. I do it for the same reason I avoid going to Walmart: I'm not enabling that dysfunctional section of the economy.

Charack Obamazard
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just trying to save ya come tax season. Less needles for the homeless, ya dig?

Michael Gordon
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery services are hurting restaurants too. They charge us fees to use their service, which cuts into the minimal profit made of food. If they came into restaurant we could puah more liquor and make good money. Then there is no tip left for the restaurant staff that prepared and bagged the food. This leads to less income for in house staff and makes staff harder to keep on. We also had to hire another pwrson for togo but they are making almost no tips per shift. In all i belive grubhub, doordash, etc hurts restaurants more than it helps.

Henry Williams
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is this? When, in the history of our country, have there been more companies out there hiring for workers. We are having a lack of working people crisis in our country. This is the absolute best time to say "if you don't like your job, go find a new one". Every job is hiring! Don't cry in your dang car over how hard your job is!!! I always try to be as sympathetic as I can be, but I am so done with this "crying over tips" culture. I don't even use these delivery companies because I can't trust these freaking people to be honest with my food. I literally can't even understand the mindset of someone that would cry over not getting paid enough at a contract job.

Cassy
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery services should be paying drivers a base rate plus current gas mileage rate, plus at minimum workers comp and insurance just as any other company. I currently rely a lot on drivers. Not because I'm wealthy actually we are struggling hard right now. But, my husband has CPS and cancer and I damaged my arm and needed surgery so had to take a leave of absence. Neither of us is physically of doing the bare minimum of shopping. I'm not getting a paycheck right now, his SSD is $700/mo. Haven't received confirmation I will get paid leave. We are living off credit cards, but I pay 20% or more for small deliveries and made a big stock up order that I tipped $50. We have to support each other because the corporate heads won't. They are too concerned about making their next million dollar bonus.

Nick Cardoso
Community Member
2 years ago

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Amanda Todd
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man signed up knowing this, he's probably trying to get an instant GoFundMe me like dumbass glue girl.

SmithsonMichael
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Excuse me! I’m going to ignore your disrespect, and say have a nice day! Wow!

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No More
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop relying on tips, the only way this will change for the better ever is if people stop working under the conditions they are complaining of. If the job doesn't pay well, find another. And if you don't have that option right now, make the necessary personal changes so it becomes possible for you.

Rey Nazzo
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is more than enough federal and state programs that will help individuals who are unskilled develop a skill that is in high demand. Sure poverty exists, and getting tossed into it is nobodys fault. Staying there is.

Tronald Dump
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all USA should take a look at how things are done in Europe. Normal wages are paid instead of making workers depend on tips. Don't blame the customer, blame the organisation. Sure, food might be a bit more expensive but everyone gets what they're due. Second of all, i tell EVERYONE that work for uber eats to find a better job. They don't care about you, you're just a easily replacable cog in a money machine that is made to make a few people rich while standing on the backs of people doing 10 times more work than themselves. Tips are bullshit, no one should have to depend on the good will of others, especially if you don't even trust them to be decent folks in the first place. Tips are a compliment for a job well done, nothing more nothing less. Fight the system, not the customers.

Enby.Minecraft.Bee.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yay America!😐 Okay but for real somebody in one of the richest countries in the world shouldn't have to live off of tips.

KimB
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To everyone saying don't like it get another job that pays more/better, yes "everyone" is hiring now, but that doesn't mean that good paying jobs are easy to get. Employers can look at everything from your criminal background , education to credit score. If you're a convicted felon this is even more of a challenge. Having one job that pays a livable wage is a luxury for some folks.

DC
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I tip in person. Coins or bills. What I order usually costs about 15 €, and takes about half an hour. 2.50 is minimum, and whatever I have on hand on top in small coins, usually making another 50 to 100 cent. Means, my tipping is roughly 3 € for 1/2 hour, equas 6 €/hr, which is about half minimum wage - and it took half an hour or so (usually, about that, sometimes 20, 40 minutes, ...). If they mess up the order, I complain, and get the corrected order - another tip unless the driver is the boss (happens, especially in complaint recovery). Bosses don't need tips. Tipping on the browser or app ... nah, goes straight in their pocket. Wordless, for their app my snitch them out.

Tamara Kroonen
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How sadly it is for the driver but this is not a customers problem. It is the problem of not getting a proper monthly salary. People should stop delivering for such companies. The system is wrong. Here in Europe people get monthly payments. It is a fulltime job after all. Doesn't matter how far you have to drive or how many deliveries you bring a day. In the end, we all get paid the same monthly salary. Because it is a job. Just like any other job. Same goes for being a waiter in a restaurant. At least minimal wage and a proper monthly salary. We only tip because it is a custom, not because we have to. And poor families don't tip. And nobody is blaming them.

Frannie Kaplan
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The job market for millenials sucks. Nobody chooses to be a stressed out delivery driver

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Aubrie Allen
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't tip, you can't afford to order out or go to a restaurant. Period!

Nadine
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wasn't this whole thing from a long time ago? There was a go fund me page for him? And yes, they deserve tips.

Misha Writer
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A tip should be just that, a tip. Something extra to say thank you to the person providing a service. Unfortunately, that is not the case in the good old U. S. of A. Those service workers depend on tips because their base pay is ridiculously low. As a result, I give a minimum of 20% and often higher than that. During the lock down stage of the pandemic in my area, I gave a flat $10 on take out, unless the total was more than $30 then I bumped up. And that was me picking up the food. Now that I am able to eat in person, I usually figure 20%, minimum of $5. When I use a delivery service, I add at least $2.50 to what the app suggests for a tip, and often add more than that depending on distance and other factors such as weather and time of day and what not. It sucks that I have to pay the wages, but I understand that in this country food service is a low paying job, and I an grateful for the people who make the food I eat, and the people who deliver it to me whether server or driver.

Parmeisan
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand the people saying they refuse to pay for a tip because the delivery fee is already so high. So don't get it delivered? Just pick it up yourself. WAY cheaper and used to be the only way you could even get the food (except pizza). If you can afford the delivery cost, you can afford the tip. If you can't afford both, don't get it delivered.

Bobby
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Short trips can be damaging to electronic components in Petrol *and Diesel engines. Modern vehicles replaced carburetors with ECM units that monitor air-fuel mixture. In petrol vehicles, short trips do not allow complete burn off and condensation becomes sludge, blocking sensors. In diesel, the DPF will gradually get clogged with the soot that it traps. Ideally, the soot is removed by heating this residue, turning it to ash and expelling it. The ECM is supposed to artificially raise engine temps to accomplish this. Short trips derail this process in both engines.

celery g
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

stop making the customer the one responsible for give you a paycheck! Stop working for a company that already gouges people with service fees and tax on that and raised prices.

Abi abs
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boohoo I don't like my job, I can't earn any money at my job, but I'm going to stay working at my job that I hate so much so I can tell the world how much I hate it and get some sympathy.... Erm no, change your fricking job you idiot🤦. If you're working at a place that you have to rely on your tips to make your wage up to minimum then you're a mug for doing it. Murica land of opportunity🤦

Eric Steward
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't like the pay? Get another job. LITERALLY, everyone is hiring right now. You choose to stick it out, deal with what you get paid.

Andrea Heverly
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what you were getting into..I DD in bum*uck Indiana and make over $100 easily Something don't add up

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