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Mom Quietly Leaves While Her Kid Is With The Tutor, Comes Home To The Police And Social Services
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Mom Quietly Leaves While Her Kid Is With The Tutor, Comes Home To The Police And Social Services

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Working with kids tends to be a bit more complicated, so most nannies, babysitters and tutors take the time to set up some rules with the parents. Unfortunately, immaturity, entitlement and just absentmindedness are not exclusive to children, as so many people have discovered from clients, customers and just random people who show up at their jobs.

A tutor turned to the internet for advice after they called the police on a mom who left them alone with her kids after being explicitly asked not to do that. We reached out to the netizen who shared the story via private message and will update the article when they get back to us.

There is not a lot of leeway when it comes to safety issues and children

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So one tutor was surprised a mother was so angry when they called the cops after she left them alone with a kid

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Tutoring and babysitting are very different jobs, no matter what this mom may have believed

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In the 21st century, we are so used to written agreements (which are a very good thing) that anything “lesser,” say, a verbal agreement, tends to sometimes get forgotten. This story is a classic case of that. The tutor and the mother had an agreement, the mom either forgot about it, wasn’t really listening in the first place or perhaps she simply did not care.

The real question isn’t “was she wrong to leave the tutor alone,” it’s “was the tutor wrong to immediately call the police?” This is perhaps what caused such a heated debate in the comments section, as some folks thought this was overkill. Others saw the tutor’s position, since this situation opened them up to a whole new slew of liabilities.

It’s also a very clear-cut case of “not being paid enough for this.” Tutoring is by no means easy, but at least there is the understanding that the tutor won’t also double as a babysitter. In most cases, babysitters will call the police when the parents are late, so this isn’t that far from the norm.

Some netizens might argue that the tutor will lose a client, but it’s worth considering if it’s worth working for someone who will readily ignore your agreements. Today it was leaving the tutor alone, so why not late payments tomorrow? It’s good to have limits, as not all money is worth the hassle.

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The mom put herself in a bad position

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As for the mom, it’s telling that her main complaint was that she would look bad, because that is precisely what happened. She agreed to something, then broke that agreement, with her child caught in the “crossfire.” The tutor understood that they can’t just leave a kid alone, but the mother is of no help as she caused this situation in the first place.

Similarly, if she isn’t actually abusing the child, then an investigation from the cops or child protective services shouldn’t actually be an issue. If there are some underlying problems, then this tutor, on accident, may have helped the kid. The underlying issue is that this mom feels like she can do whatever she wants, just like many of the toxic bosses some people have to deal with in the workplace.

Some folks have the attitude that, if they paid some money, they should be entitled to various rights and extras, never mind the agreement. Just like a manager who asks for extra hours even when your job contract says one thing, entitlement is just an unavoidable part of life. However, that doesn’t mean that one should do nothing, as this netizen demonstrated.

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Most thought the tutor did the right thing

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But some thought it was too much

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similarly
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3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA (and to the last YTA commenter in the article, I AM a parent). You have rules. You are a business, a tutoring service, not a childcare service. You have other appointments for which you are being paid and to which you are expected to attend. Your credibility as a businessperson depends on your reputation and reliability, and by disregarding your rules and guidelines, the parent put your financial needs and business responsibilities at a disadvantage. The tutor did not abandon the child. The parent did.

Ms.GB
Community Member
2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, the mom left her child without childcare AND no way to get ahold of her. This is entirely on the parent.

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LakotaWolf (she/her)
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the YTAs (and any of my fellow Pandas who feel the same way) that are just demanding that OP "just stay" with the kid - OP is running a BUSINESS with set appointment times. As a comparison, would you demand your plumber stay in your house to wait for a package you have to sign for, because you have to run around the corner really quick? No, because that's not the plumber's JOB, and they have other appointments to get to after yours. Why is it even remotely reasonable for OP to stay longer at one appointment and fúck over their next clients/appointments? Would YOU be happy if you were the next appointment and OP called and said "Sorry, I have to stay longer at this appointment because the kid's mom left, sorry, too bad, but I can't tutor your kid today"? No, you'd be pissed, both at OP and at the mom who bailed on her kid and left the kid with OP. We get angry if the DOCTOR is late to see us when we have a set appt time, even if it was because the previous patient kept them longer.

Mike F
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And apparently the YTA didn't thoroughly read the post. The OP stated that they waited 15 minutes then called the police non emergency number. After the dispatcher got everything sorted it was (quite probably) another 10-15 minutes before the arrival of the police which would put mom's little foray at least 30 minutes. Add in the fact that the mom wasn't returning messages so what's the OP to think? Obviously the YTA crowd is accustomed to dumping their kid(s) on unsuspecting people as a matter of course.

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Scott Rackley
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parent leaves, kid does a header off the staircase and cracks his/her skull. Wonder who the police are going to look at?

Ash
Community Member
2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to mention, you have to have certain legal certifications to be left alone with children. Even churches have started making people get FBI background checks/fingerprinted in order to be Sunday School or VBS teachers, because that's what the law requires in so many places. If OP didn't have those certifications, it was literally not legal for her to be at the house alone with the child.

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FluffyDreg
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the people saying OP ruined the family, and not the parent who abandoned the child in the "care" of someone who was not responsible for them. If something happened to that kid while OP was there do you understand the legal ramifications of that? She forced OP to be a temporary gaurdian against their will. To put them in a role they were NOT qualified for or comfortable with. OP tried to get into contact with her. It was not an instant choice to immediately do it. It was not hsving a choice and not comfortable being the temporary care taker of a young child.

Surly Scot
Community Member
3 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, but for legal reasons they need to have the rules about not leaving the house written into the agreement that parents sign, not just verbally said.

V
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And have stipulations - if you leave the premises during the session it's an extra $300, and if you are not back by the end of the session $300 every 10 minutes with the police called after 30 minutes.

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Rayne OfSalt
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've called the cops about kids being left in the store I was working in and I'd do it again, every time. I was working in a small hobby retail store, most of our shelves were glass and dangerous for small children, especially the kind that likes to run around. I am also not a child minder, neither was the store. Dude was maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad when he finally showed up.

Skogsrået
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This mom was not shaken up from the interaction with Police or social services. She is shaken up cause someone called her out on her bs, probably done shît like this before and furious she didn't get away with it this time.

Petra
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It can be both. And it probably is both. Most people who get away with things a lot are really shaken up not only by not getting away with it again but also by the consequence they thought they'd never have to face.

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Weasel Wise
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's cute, the YTA people, thinking that a) OP has nothing better to do that be taken advantage of by her clients (if it were a daycare center, should OP had just waited until whenever the client came back and give her a slap on the wrist?) and, b) "bill her for a second session": are people really that stupid that they think that OP sending a bill means it will get paid?!? I guarantee a bill for a second session wouldn't be paid if OP had waited for the kid's mom. And if it were charged to her card without her concent, Client would have the charge disputed. If Client was selfish enough to ditch her kid with OP when told not to do so, what makes them think Client is gonna fork over more money as payment for doing so?! 🤦🏾‍♀️

spjhnx52pq
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Literally every YTA who is a parent needs to have their kids taken away for child abandonment and neglect. I guarantee you that they all pull these stunts which is why they support the behavior and are so judgmental to the OP for doing the right thing.

T'Mar of Vulcan
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents will always try to take advantage. Our school keeps the kids inside the premises after 20 minutes standing on the pavement (sidewalk) with supervision as we're in South Africa and unattended kids are not safe (although other schools leave them outside alone). They then wait on the netball court for their parents. They have supervision until 15:15 (3:15 p.m.) or 15:30 if they had extra-murals. But some kids wait until 16:00 (4 p.m.) or later, even if they didn't have extra-murals (school comes out at 14:00 - 2 p.m.). And if we have a function that runs later, parents will take the time we say to fetch their kids as a guideline for when they must start getting ready. We used to have functions that went into the evening, but after having kids left at the school past 22:00 (10 p.m.) we stopped doing that. Sometimes you call parents AND THEY ARE SLEEPING!!! We've threatened many times to drop kids off at the local police station but never followed through. I wish management would.

EM
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA and anyone saying otherwise to OP is an irresponsible moron.

Victoria
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. But I would have put this in the contract and not just have a verbal agreement. The written contract didn't specify this, according to OP.

Petra
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, there's no reason to not have it in writing. Plus, when a parent like this leaves a bad review, all OP would need to do is post the signed contract in response. "I didn't know" doesn't fly when you have the receipts.

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Id row
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That woman knew exactly what she was doing. She just didn't expect the tutor to call her on it. That woman FAFO. Her own fault.

Broadredpanda
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jitterybrat.... 1. She wasn't 15 minutes late! She tried to ring her so she phoned the police after 15 minutes 2. She abandoned her child to someone over the internet 3. It's illegal to leave your child 4. She was told again and again! It's an absolute disgrace that after all that she and you think a tutor that was on zoom ruined her life? Errr NO the parent did. How foolish are you? And OP NTA NTA NTA Despite was some say!!!!!

Kristen Woehlke
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another YTA troll! Wow, yeah, I'm not a parent and even if I were...just wow! This person runs a business of helping kids get good grades, not a baby sitter! The parent most certainly DID do something wrong! She left her kid with someone who is NOT a baby sitter and thought it was ok. You're the one who is not a parent and doesn't deserve to be! Once again, I'll say it... Run along little troll, the adults are talking!

Bryn
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

people saying yta have definitely broken contracts like this before.

Nimitz
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Speaking from painful personal experience, when it comes to a child's welfare, if you're EVER in a position where you're thinking "Should I call the cops or CPS?" The answer is YES! I was in a situation once where I should have called CPS but didn't want to f**k up someone's life and a kid ended up in danger from their addict parents. I've also seen abusive parents hurting their kids and I kept my mouth shut, and the kid suffered. I will always be ashamed I hesitated to call.

Nimitz
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On a lighter note, I hope the OP sent mom-of-the-year a bill for the extra time.

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Aurora
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That last YTA really reveals how warped someone's perception can become if their childhood is completely off. CPS doesn't take away children for "literally nothing", she's just normalized her own mother's neglect to the point where she can see nothing wrong with it.

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So it's a pain, but if you're worried about social services asking questions, you are hiding something that you shouldn't be. The path of least resistance and the least cost to the state is keeping a child at home, they won't take them off parents unless there's serious concern. The fact that she's so worried about that, makes me think there's more going on behind the scenes and maybe this was a godsend for the kid.

Pamacious
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This tutor should also do a master class on how to hold one's boundaries. Imagine the shock of dealing with a person who sets a boundary and means it! The only thing I would suggest differently would be to be sure and put these terms down in writing instead of multiple verbal reminders. Do both.

Ruth Watry
Community Member
1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the YTAs, when mom is not answering her phone or texts, OP now has reason to believe that something happened to her (accident, etc.), and she may not be coming back. In that case, law enforcement is the right option to make sure that the child is safe. If OP was a babysitter it would be one thing, but somebody who does not have experience caring for children was left in the role of having to care for a child.

Gwyn
Community Member
1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA but you have to have this in writing or she can sue for false reporting, it's your word against hers if not in writing. And in addition to the fee add that you charge some exorbitant amount for overtime, like 30$ every 10 minutes.

Regina Phalange
Community Member
1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. A tutor doesn't necessarily know of things like allergies or diabetes, know where the epipen or insulin is, nor how to administer it, know CPR. And OP didn't know how long the mother would be gone either. As OP said, the mom could have been dead, instead of gone for 15 minutes. So the last comment: cutting her som slack for 15 minutes, OP didn't know it would be only 15 minutes.

Bones
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA and anyone saying otherwise is TA. I'm a teacher. 14 years in early childhood. You leave your kid after school for more than 10 minutes without contacting us, we call non-emergency police. Had the mom responded to the call and said, I'll be back in 2 minutes and then OP called police 2 minutes later, maybe OP the TA but this was 15 minutes with no response. OP NTA.

Puppy Dancing!
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some parents look for free child care anywhere. I used to work below Dr offices in a store, sometimes we had unattended children hang around for the better part of an hour .

Max Fox
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTAs are, as usual, either trolls, or super entitled people who also believe that tutors and such are "the help" who should fulfill any task that the parent wants done. What next, "clean up the kitchen"?

Mark Childers
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I never answered a call like that, I would hope the tutor would call the police because something is obviously wrong. And especially so given her policies. Should never have happened. The mother is clearly in the wrong.

Susan Callihan
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does OP have a policy of getting an emergency number of an aunt, neighbor, etc., if mother doesn't come back? Tutor had no way of knowing if mother would even return, since mother left without saying anything. Or if mother got in an accident, who would be able to take care of the child? Even when I cat sit, I get an emergency vet number, just in case. I would think the mother would have an emergency contact number if she can't (refuses) be reached.

Kalikima
Community Member
Premium
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why would OP need an emergency number, when mom was never supposed to leave in the first place?

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Xenia Harley
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my son was young, I used to run his Cub Scout group. I had several boys in the group and it ran from 3:30-4:30. I had a boy whose parents were very well off and both worked, who sometimes wouldn't show up until 8:30 at night! The father was always apologetic, but the mom would say stuff like, "Oh, is the meeting finished already?" I felt super bad for the boy and would often feed him dinner when he was still with me! (I am not just going to feed my kid and myself when a child is present!) Never once tried to talk to me about maybe paying me, etc. They finally got a nanny who would pick him up on time. They knew when the meeting ended, and I had spoken to them numerous times, especially the father, since he was not in complete gas-lighting denial like the mother.I was a working single mom, BTW.

Terran
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, but: the age when a child can be left alone varies a lot between countries, so ai get why many people wouldn't necessarily see this as child abandonment in any way. But in such a case the mother should've made it clear that she might not be back at the end of the session and explicitly state that the tutor can go. Which of course doesn't matter at all because they agreed on something else. Also, the statement that the family is ruined is BS. Neither the CPS nor any equivalent in any other country will do more than take a note of what happened, they will ask questions and will ne nuisance for a day, but nothing more will come of it. In my personal opinion the real problem is the broken agreement and not the "child abandonment". The kid is 8 and not a toddler.

Fembot
Community Member
2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am wondering, if all commenters are US based. It is absolutely not common in many countries to call the police in case a kid is left alone at home. And I think kids can be left alone for small (!) amounts of time at that age. But I can’t think of an alternative thing I’d do if I was the tutor. ETA: I don’t even think police would come for a call like this unless the child was in actual danger. they would check up again later, maybe.

Papa
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not down voting, but I disagree. Very few 8-year olds are mature enough to be left alone.

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Data1001
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2 days ago

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The kid is 8 years old? Jayzus, I was left at home alone at that age all the time. I would have taken off, left a note for the mom saying that I could no longer work for her, and be done with it. The tutor wouldn't have been responsible for the kid. And unless he was special needs, he would've been fine.

Baba 35
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2 days ago

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YTA the kid was in own house , you leave the kid sits in front of tv or comp and bet dose not even know if his parent was in house in the first place, kids only notice parents when time to be fed. Calling cops was over the top, u could of knocked next door and said "blah blah blah"

sturmwesen
Community Member
2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah leave an 8 year old alone to set the house on fire or bring them to a neighbour you don't know who could be every bad thing in the book. Great advice /s

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Helena
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I don't think i would've ruined a family over this. That's what calling the police after such a short time is going to do. The parent was undoubtedly stupid for not following the rules, but not "risk that childs life and sanity" consequences. This was an overreaction. I wouldve waited longer, iover an hour just in case the parent thought it would last an hour, then maybe. Otherwise, this guy just upended a family because his schedule was inconvenienced. He could have just refused to tutor for that family anymore.

Scott Rackley
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope. Nope. Nope. Parent leaves and now she'll be in trouble if the kid hurts himself.

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similarly
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3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA (and to the last YTA commenter in the article, I AM a parent). You have rules. You are a business, a tutoring service, not a childcare service. You have other appointments for which you are being paid and to which you are expected to attend. Your credibility as a businessperson depends on your reputation and reliability, and by disregarding your rules and guidelines, the parent put your financial needs and business responsibilities at a disadvantage. The tutor did not abandon the child. The parent did.

Ms.GB
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2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, the mom left her child without childcare AND no way to get ahold of her. This is entirely on the parent.

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LakotaWolf (she/her)
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the YTAs (and any of my fellow Pandas who feel the same way) that are just demanding that OP "just stay" with the kid - OP is running a BUSINESS with set appointment times. As a comparison, would you demand your plumber stay in your house to wait for a package you have to sign for, because you have to run around the corner really quick? No, because that's not the plumber's JOB, and they have other appointments to get to after yours. Why is it even remotely reasonable for OP to stay longer at one appointment and fúck over their next clients/appointments? Would YOU be happy if you were the next appointment and OP called and said "Sorry, I have to stay longer at this appointment because the kid's mom left, sorry, too bad, but I can't tutor your kid today"? No, you'd be pissed, both at OP and at the mom who bailed on her kid and left the kid with OP. We get angry if the DOCTOR is late to see us when we have a set appt time, even if it was because the previous patient kept them longer.

Mike F
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And apparently the YTA didn't thoroughly read the post. The OP stated that they waited 15 minutes then called the police non emergency number. After the dispatcher got everything sorted it was (quite probably) another 10-15 minutes before the arrival of the police which would put mom's little foray at least 30 minutes. Add in the fact that the mom wasn't returning messages so what's the OP to think? Obviously the YTA crowd is accustomed to dumping their kid(s) on unsuspecting people as a matter of course.

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Scott Rackley
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3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parent leaves, kid does a header off the staircase and cracks his/her skull. Wonder who the police are going to look at?

Ash
Community Member
2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to mention, you have to have certain legal certifications to be left alone with children. Even churches have started making people get FBI background checks/fingerprinted in order to be Sunday School or VBS teachers, because that's what the law requires in so many places. If OP didn't have those certifications, it was literally not legal for her to be at the house alone with the child.

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FluffyDreg
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the people saying OP ruined the family, and not the parent who abandoned the child in the "care" of someone who was not responsible for them. If something happened to that kid while OP was there do you understand the legal ramifications of that? She forced OP to be a temporary gaurdian against their will. To put them in a role they were NOT qualified for or comfortable with. OP tried to get into contact with her. It was not an instant choice to immediately do it. It was not hsving a choice and not comfortable being the temporary care taker of a young child.

Surly Scot
Community Member
3 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, but for legal reasons they need to have the rules about not leaving the house written into the agreement that parents sign, not just verbally said.

V
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And have stipulations - if you leave the premises during the session it's an extra $300, and if you are not back by the end of the session $300 every 10 minutes with the police called after 30 minutes.

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Rayne OfSalt
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've called the cops about kids being left in the store I was working in and I'd do it again, every time. I was working in a small hobby retail store, most of our shelves were glass and dangerous for small children, especially the kind that likes to run around. I am also not a child minder, neither was the store. Dude was maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad when he finally showed up.

Skogsrået
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This mom was not shaken up from the interaction with Police or social services. She is shaken up cause someone called her out on her bs, probably done shît like this before and furious she didn't get away with it this time.

Petra
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It can be both. And it probably is both. Most people who get away with things a lot are really shaken up not only by not getting away with it again but also by the consequence they thought they'd never have to face.

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Weasel Wise
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's cute, the YTA people, thinking that a) OP has nothing better to do that be taken advantage of by her clients (if it were a daycare center, should OP had just waited until whenever the client came back and give her a slap on the wrist?) and, b) "bill her for a second session": are people really that stupid that they think that OP sending a bill means it will get paid?!? I guarantee a bill for a second session wouldn't be paid if OP had waited for the kid's mom. And if it were charged to her card without her concent, Client would have the charge disputed. If Client was selfish enough to ditch her kid with OP when told not to do so, what makes them think Client is gonna fork over more money as payment for doing so?! 🤦🏾‍♀️

spjhnx52pq
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Literally every YTA who is a parent needs to have their kids taken away for child abandonment and neglect. I guarantee you that they all pull these stunts which is why they support the behavior and are so judgmental to the OP for doing the right thing.

T'Mar of Vulcan
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents will always try to take advantage. Our school keeps the kids inside the premises after 20 minutes standing on the pavement (sidewalk) with supervision as we're in South Africa and unattended kids are not safe (although other schools leave them outside alone). They then wait on the netball court for their parents. They have supervision until 15:15 (3:15 p.m.) or 15:30 if they had extra-murals. But some kids wait until 16:00 (4 p.m.) or later, even if they didn't have extra-murals (school comes out at 14:00 - 2 p.m.). And if we have a function that runs later, parents will take the time we say to fetch their kids as a guideline for when they must start getting ready. We used to have functions that went into the evening, but after having kids left at the school past 22:00 (10 p.m.) we stopped doing that. Sometimes you call parents AND THEY ARE SLEEPING!!! We've threatened many times to drop kids off at the local police station but never followed through. I wish management would.

EM
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA and anyone saying otherwise to OP is an irresponsible moron.

Victoria
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. But I would have put this in the contract and not just have a verbal agreement. The written contract didn't specify this, according to OP.

Petra
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, there's no reason to not have it in writing. Plus, when a parent like this leaves a bad review, all OP would need to do is post the signed contract in response. "I didn't know" doesn't fly when you have the receipts.

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Id row
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That woman knew exactly what she was doing. She just didn't expect the tutor to call her on it. That woman FAFO. Her own fault.

Broadredpanda
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jitterybrat.... 1. She wasn't 15 minutes late! She tried to ring her so she phoned the police after 15 minutes 2. She abandoned her child to someone over the internet 3. It's illegal to leave your child 4. She was told again and again! It's an absolute disgrace that after all that she and you think a tutor that was on zoom ruined her life? Errr NO the parent did. How foolish are you? And OP NTA NTA NTA Despite was some say!!!!!

Kristen Woehlke
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another YTA troll! Wow, yeah, I'm not a parent and even if I were...just wow! This person runs a business of helping kids get good grades, not a baby sitter! The parent most certainly DID do something wrong! She left her kid with someone who is NOT a baby sitter and thought it was ok. You're the one who is not a parent and doesn't deserve to be! Once again, I'll say it... Run along little troll, the adults are talking!

Bryn
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

people saying yta have definitely broken contracts like this before.

Nimitz
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Speaking from painful personal experience, when it comes to a child's welfare, if you're EVER in a position where you're thinking "Should I call the cops or CPS?" The answer is YES! I was in a situation once where I should have called CPS but didn't want to f**k up someone's life and a kid ended up in danger from their addict parents. I've also seen abusive parents hurting their kids and I kept my mouth shut, and the kid suffered. I will always be ashamed I hesitated to call.

Nimitz
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On a lighter note, I hope the OP sent mom-of-the-year a bill for the extra time.

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Aurora
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That last YTA really reveals how warped someone's perception can become if their childhood is completely off. CPS doesn't take away children for "literally nothing", she's just normalized her own mother's neglect to the point where she can see nothing wrong with it.

FreeTheUnicorn
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So it's a pain, but if you're worried about social services asking questions, you are hiding something that you shouldn't be. The path of least resistance and the least cost to the state is keeping a child at home, they won't take them off parents unless there's serious concern. The fact that she's so worried about that, makes me think there's more going on behind the scenes and maybe this was a godsend for the kid.

Pamacious
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This tutor should also do a master class on how to hold one's boundaries. Imagine the shock of dealing with a person who sets a boundary and means it! The only thing I would suggest differently would be to be sure and put these terms down in writing instead of multiple verbal reminders. Do both.

Ruth Watry
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the YTAs, when mom is not answering her phone or texts, OP now has reason to believe that something happened to her (accident, etc.), and she may not be coming back. In that case, law enforcement is the right option to make sure that the child is safe. If OP was a babysitter it would be one thing, but somebody who does not have experience caring for children was left in the role of having to care for a child.

Gwyn
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1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA but you have to have this in writing or she can sue for false reporting, it's your word against hers if not in writing. And in addition to the fee add that you charge some exorbitant amount for overtime, like 30$ every 10 minutes.

Regina Phalange
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. A tutor doesn't necessarily know of things like allergies or diabetes, know where the epipen or insulin is, nor how to administer it, know CPR. And OP didn't know how long the mother would be gone either. As OP said, the mom could have been dead, instead of gone for 15 minutes. So the last comment: cutting her som slack for 15 minutes, OP didn't know it would be only 15 minutes.

Bones
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA and anyone saying otherwise is TA. I'm a teacher. 14 years in early childhood. You leave your kid after school for more than 10 minutes without contacting us, we call non-emergency police. Had the mom responded to the call and said, I'll be back in 2 minutes and then OP called police 2 minutes later, maybe OP the TA but this was 15 minutes with no response. OP NTA.

Puppy Dancing!
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some parents look for free child care anywhere. I used to work below Dr offices in a store, sometimes we had unattended children hang around for the better part of an hour .

Max Fox
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTAs are, as usual, either trolls, or super entitled people who also believe that tutors and such are "the help" who should fulfill any task that the parent wants done. What next, "clean up the kitchen"?

Mark Childers
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I never answered a call like that, I would hope the tutor would call the police because something is obviously wrong. And especially so given her policies. Should never have happened. The mother is clearly in the wrong.

Susan Callihan
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does OP have a policy of getting an emergency number of an aunt, neighbor, etc., if mother doesn't come back? Tutor had no way of knowing if mother would even return, since mother left without saying anything. Or if mother got in an accident, who would be able to take care of the child? Even when I cat sit, I get an emergency vet number, just in case. I would think the mother would have an emergency contact number if she can't (refuses) be reached.

Kalikima
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why would OP need an emergency number, when mom was never supposed to leave in the first place?

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Xenia Harley
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my son was young, I used to run his Cub Scout group. I had several boys in the group and it ran from 3:30-4:30. I had a boy whose parents were very well off and both worked, who sometimes wouldn't show up until 8:30 at night! The father was always apologetic, but the mom would say stuff like, "Oh, is the meeting finished already?" I felt super bad for the boy and would often feed him dinner when he was still with me! (I am not just going to feed my kid and myself when a child is present!) Never once tried to talk to me about maybe paying me, etc. They finally got a nanny who would pick him up on time. They knew when the meeting ended, and I had spoken to them numerous times, especially the father, since he was not in complete gas-lighting denial like the mother.I was a working single mom, BTW.

Terran
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, but: the age when a child can be left alone varies a lot between countries, so ai get why many people wouldn't necessarily see this as child abandonment in any way. But in such a case the mother should've made it clear that she might not be back at the end of the session and explicitly state that the tutor can go. Which of course doesn't matter at all because they agreed on something else. Also, the statement that the family is ruined is BS. Neither the CPS nor any equivalent in any other country will do more than take a note of what happened, they will ask questions and will ne nuisance for a day, but nothing more will come of it. In my personal opinion the real problem is the broken agreement and not the "child abandonment". The kid is 8 and not a toddler.

Fembot
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2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am wondering, if all commenters are US based. It is absolutely not common in many countries to call the police in case a kid is left alone at home. And I think kids can be left alone for small (!) amounts of time at that age. But I can’t think of an alternative thing I’d do if I was the tutor. ETA: I don’t even think police would come for a call like this unless the child was in actual danger. they would check up again later, maybe.

Papa
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not down voting, but I disagree. Very few 8-year olds are mature enough to be left alone.

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Data1001
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2 days ago

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The kid is 8 years old? Jayzus, I was left at home alone at that age all the time. I would have taken off, left a note for the mom saying that I could no longer work for her, and be done with it. The tutor wouldn't have been responsible for the kid. And unless he was special needs, he would've been fine.

Baba 35
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YTA the kid was in own house , you leave the kid sits in front of tv or comp and bet dose not even know if his parent was in house in the first place, kids only notice parents when time to be fed. Calling cops was over the top, u could of knocked next door and said "blah blah blah"

sturmwesen
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2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah leave an 8 year old alone to set the house on fire or bring them to a neighbour you don't know who could be every bad thing in the book. Great advice /s

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Helena
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3 days ago

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I don't think i would've ruined a family over this. That's what calling the police after such a short time is going to do. The parent was undoubtedly stupid for not following the rules, but not "risk that childs life and sanity" consequences. This was an overreaction. I wouldve waited longer, iover an hour just in case the parent thought it would last an hour, then maybe. Otherwise, this guy just upended a family because his schedule was inconvenienced. He could have just refused to tutor for that family anymore.

Scott Rackley
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3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope. Nope. Nope. Parent leaves and now she'll be in trouble if the kid hurts himself.

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