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Woman With Brain Tumor Scared And Heartbroken Over The Fact She Can’t Get It Removed Because Of Unvaccinated People

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The ongoing Covid-19 pandemic continues to have a direct negative impact on the healthcare system and on patients who desperately need lifesaving surgery. There aren’t enough intensive care unit beds available for people who have cancer and need to have the tumors removed. And the bed shortage is because of unvaccinated patients who end up in the hospital with Covid.

Artist and woodworker Amanda Harris, from Portland, has openly shared her story about her fight with a brain tumor, that might be cancerous, on TikTok. She explained that she cannot have the surgery done to remove her tumor because there is a lack of ICU beds. She urged people to get vaccinated and boosted so that she and others like her can get the procedures that they need.

As things currently stand, Amanda is stuck waiting to hear back about her surgery. It could be weeks, even months before there’s a slot available, and she was in tears in one of her latest videos. You’ll find Amanda’s story below, dear Pandas.

Bored Panda reached out to Amanda and she went into detail about what’s been going on and how she feels, shared her opinion about vaccine hesitancy, and gave some advice for anyone who’s stuck in a similar situation as she is. “First off, I want to make it super clear that I am not a cancer patient. It is unknown at this point whether or not my tumor is benign or malignant and that will not be determined until after the resection is done,” she clarified.

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“These last three months spent waiting for a surgery date and the two months preceding, spent trying to wrap my head around this completely out of the blue tumor discovery and struggling to get the right imaging and the best doctors, has been the most challenging time of my life,” she opened up about just how difficult things have been.

“As someone who lives with multiple chronic illnesses, and has spent many years of my life navigating the frustrating system that is American Health Care, I am used to having to advocate for myself, so it came to no real surprise that I would need to do so again with this life-threatening brain tumor. However, the added complications that Covid has brought with it and the fact that it is all entirely out of my hands is something I was not at all prepared for.”

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    Amanda, who has a brain tumor, shared the reason why she can’t get surgery

    She explained how there are no free ICU beds available

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    Here is her video in full

    @mechanicaleraser #greenscreen #braintumor #neurosurgery #icu #unvaccinated #sicktok ♬ original sound – Amanda

    Amanda said that she tries to take things one day at a time, focuses on being kind to herself, and accepts any coping strategies that she’s drawn to, without judgment. “Some days, I am better at managing it than others but I have to keep telling myself that there is no ‘right way’ to deal with the kind of situation I find myself in,” she noted.

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    According to Amanda, patients have to be as vocal as possible about what’s happening to them. They have to fight for their health and their future with everything that they’ve got.

    “For anyone else in a similar position, waiting for an emergent surgery or medical treatment until an ICU bed opens up, or even for those who are struggling while they wait weeks to months for a doctor’s appointment, I give you this advice: Be vocal about your experience if you are able, never stop advocating for yourself, and try to convince those around you that the choice to be unvaccinated is one with far-reaching consequences,” she said.

    “The vast majority of Covid hospitalizations are that of the unvaccinated, despite the fact that they make up a minority of our population. The facts are plain, the vaccine is safe and effective and this bed shortage could be prevented if more people were vaccinated.”

    Amanda stressed that the US healthcare system can’t handle the current levels of Covid hospitalizations, “surge after surge.” She said: “The whole point of getting vaccinated, isn’t to prevent us from getting the virus, but to prevent us from seeing serious symptoms of the virus and needing hospitalization. This is to shield our healthcare systems from the overwhelm they were experiencing pre-vaccine.”

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    In another video, she once again begged people to get vaccinated and boosted for their own sake and for others

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    In her opinion, the current situation is preventable and things could have looked very different. “Today, we are still seeing the overwhelm, but it is preventable and now it’s causing bed shortages and staffing shortages that lead to patients, Covid and non-Covid alike, not being able to access the life-saving care they need. No beds means no beds for ANYTHING. “No beds for your stroke, no beds for your heart attack, no beds for your car crash, no beds for your sick child,” as @travelingnurse put it,” Amanda explained to Bored Panda.

    “The prolonged nature of the stress healthcare workers are under is untenable and has already led to mass burnout and staffing shortages. We all applauded healthcare workers a year ago, called them heroes because we understood that what they were being put through was a horrible and draining experience. No one should have to see that level of death and loss, ever, but to expect them to continue to do it year after year when so much of it is preventable with a vaccine, is simply wrong.”

    Amanda was in tears in one of her most recent videos because she still doesn’t have a fixed date for her surgery

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    @mechanicaleraser #braintumor #neurosurgery #covid #getvaccinated #getboosted #siktok ♬ original sound – Amanda

    Bored Panda also wanted to get Amanda’s opinion about why there seem to be so many people who are still hesitant to get vaccinated. “I think there is a small and loud group of people that believe the outlandish conspiracy theories and blatant disinformation that surrounds the vaccine. However, I think most of those who have yet to get vaccinated are scared and confused by the constant stream of conflicting information they hear,” she mused.

    “With the lack of cohesive education coming from the CDC, FDA, WHO, etc., and the pervasive nature of dis/misinformation, it is no wonder that people are hesitant.”

    She believes that vaccine mandates won’t be enough to convince “the 25% of Americans who can, but haven’t yet gotten vaccinated.” Amanda thinks that there will always be some people who won’t get the shots, however, that’s no reason to throw proper communication and mutual respect out the window. “To tell you the truth, many will probably never be swayed but I think the only way to convince the hesitant is to stick to the facts and hear people out about their concerns. It’s easy to get defensive when discussing these things, especially on the internet, but the second you stop trying to see from their perspective and communicate with respect, you’ve lost any and all chance of getting them to consider being vaccinated.”

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    In another video, she shared that many other people are facing the same challenges as she is

    @mechanicaleraser Thank you to all those who’ve shared their own stories #covid #getvaccinated ♬ State Lines – Novo Amor

    Amanda went to the California College of the Arts and then finished her studies at the Oregon College of Art and Craft. She’s a big fan of painting as well as woodworking and continues working with both.

    It is frustrating and heartbreaking to see Amanda in tears—she’s stuck not knowing when her lifesaving procedure can even take place. It’s unclear when any ICU beds will become available, as the Covid-19 pandemic continues to spread. It’s unclear whether or not the tumor pressing up against her brain stem is cancerous or not until it gets removed.

    According to Amanda, the main reason for this is that not enough people are vaccinated against Covid, therefore, when they get ill, there’s a higher chance that they will end up in hospital. This means there’s a long backlog of patients without Covid who are pretty much stuck in limbo. Having to live with that kind of fear sounds overwhelming and soul-crushing. It takes a lot of bravery to go through this.

    NPR reported back in August that the situation was critical and pushed hospitals to the brink in many states, meaning that some overwhelmed hospitals even had to put critically ill Covid patients on planes, helicopters, and ambulances and send them to other states for treatment.

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    Meanwhile, the shortage of ICU beds isn’t an ‘American-only’ problem, it affects many parts of the world. For example, in the United Kingdom, one patient had her surgery canceled a whopping three times in a month. Gillian Crawford, who lives in Dundee in Scotland, was then scheduled to travel to the closest specialist center in Manchester for the operation.

    Here’s how some people reacted to Amanda’s videos about ICU beds and vaccinations

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    Storytelling, journalism, and art are a core part of who I am. I've been writing and drawing ever since I could walk—there is nothing else I'd rather do. My formal education, however, is focused on politics, philosophy, and economics because I've always been curious about the gap between the ideal and the real. At work, I'm a Senior Writer and I cover a broad range of topics that I'm passionate about: from psychology and changes in work culture to healthy living, relationships, and design. In my spare time, I'm an avid hiker and reader, enjoy writing short stories, and love to doodle. I thrive when I'm outdoors, going on small adventures in nature. However, you can also find me enjoying a big mug of coffee with a good book (or ten) and entertaining friends with fantasy tabletop games and sci-fi movies.

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    Vera1
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. This is exactly why we still have lockdowns and measures. Covid doesn't just kill people from covid, it also kills people from preventable or treatable diseases who cannot get treatment quickly enough because there are no more beds in the hospital. This goes for life threatening diseases and diseases that severely limit quality of life. You cannot survive something relatively "simple" like a car crash, if there are no beds available at the hospital.

    K Witmer
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom died in April. My uncle, her little brother died 3 weeks later, my little brother died in October. All of them died bc they could not get the treatment they needed bc of anti vaxxers. These were all 100% preventable deaths. I'm so angry and so unbelievably heartbroken that they took my family from me. My mom and uncle were fully vaccinated (my brother had his first shot) my moms cancer treatments kept getting delayed and my uncle had asthma. They were so careful and unselfish and still the antivaxxers took their lives. I'm still processing it all. It's indescribable how it feels. That quick my family was just gone.

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    Kimi Tomminello
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely not as severe as a lot of cases but I have an infection in my jaw that I've had to treat on and off with antibiotics for 8 months now because I need surgery to remove a tooth that broke in my jawline that I can't get because it's considered an elective surgery. I'm honestly sick of anti vax Covid patients clogging up every aspect of medical care. They should be the ones stuck without treatment. I don't care how unpopular this opinion is our healthcare workers are completely burned out by them, globally. It's ridiculous. The deadly consequences aren't laying on the right people and it's becoming more and more frustrating to hear stories like this. People's freedom to choose shouldn't infringe on others' freedom to live. Let the anti vax people fight Covid at home. They obviously don't believe it's a deadly virus anyway, they can fight it on their own. It's just a cold 🙄 seriously, if you don't want to get vaccinated stay the heck out of the hospital when you get sick.

    Rissie
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    2 years ago

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    Don't be mad, understand it better and find solutions. Mad is about as unnecessary as you can get, because this has been the reality for about two years now.

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    Moneythink
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can see that she's having a horrible experience, to put it mildly, but I'm skeptical that it's COVID patients who are to blame for ICU beds not being available. This link shows an estimate of ICU bed usage over time; https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/hospitalization-7-day-trend I suspect the real cause is a shortage of staff, which is probably due partly to COVID, but more so to hospitals cutting staff.

    Arctic's Gate
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It really depends on where you are. In some areas it is the COVID who is driving it, in others, it is staffing issues that are driving it, in most areas it is both. COVID patients, especially the unvaccinated ones, often require a lot more resources than the average hospital patient. In my community, they have had to keep bumping my parent's critical surgery because they can't produce enough oxygen to meet the needs of their current COVID load and perform other procedures. We are just praying that the current wave burns through quickly so that can get the surgery before permanent damage is done.

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    UpQuarkDownQuark
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    2 years ago

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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ll add that my wife’s closest friend can’t be vaccinated due to immunological problems, and that the decent thing to do is to be sure that those of can get vaccinated do so to protect her.

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    Nizumi
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get that we can't tell unvaccinated people "Too bad so sad, we're not treating you." I get it. I'm in Canada - and strongly feel it's time the unvaccinated to be told they'll have to pay for the medical services they receive. At this point I'm so angry and disgusted with them that I think *they* should be housed in the field hospitals instead of folks like my mother in law, who spent two weeks in a prefab warehouse serving as a field hospital next to the actual hospital because, you guessed it - the actual hospital was full of unvaccinated COVID patients. All the tests she needed had to be done in the hospital - so much time lost because of all the extra protocols in place to stop the spread of COVID. She died of her brain tumour. By the time they found it, it was inoperable.

    KatHat
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have never understood anti-vaxxers, but even less do I understand anti-vaxxers who GO TO THE HOSPITAL when they get sick. Do you trust doctors, or do you not? like usual with the right wing, f*****g PICK ONE. They always want their cake and to eat it too.

    Leah Helbig
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wont if i get it because they dont know how to treat you and no one should have to be admitted if they would use the early muti drug approach that several very accredited doctors have been using also japan is using most of those people wouldnt get that sick.

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    Laugh or not
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doctors have started to question the priority for care given to covid patients who refused the vaccin. And that's why. They should be treated, but not at the expense of other people.

    Imogene Cargeaux
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm all for vaccinations... but vaccinated ppl are still getting sick and ending up in the hospital... my step sisters in the ICU right now with covid. She's 25 and vaccinated... she's the 5th person I know who has gotten covid after getting vaccinated and ended up in the hospital.... obviously we all need to be vaccinated.... BUT blaming the ICU being full on only unvaccinated ppl is unfair since it's not just those who aren't vaccinated. Also, I had to put off a surgery (for endometriosis) because I lived in NOLA and the hospitals were slammed. So I got a referral from my doctor to a hospital out of the city and was able to get in within a few weeks since it was in a lower population area. Also, my doctor was even willing to do my surgery at a different hospital if the surgeon she referred me to couldn't get me in in time. There are other options.

    Margaret C Hirschman
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was diagnosed with Stage 2 cervical cancer (adenocarcinoma) at age 36. I was a single mother with two children, ages 6 and 8. I had abnormal Pap smears starting 8 years prior, when I was pregnant with my daughter. I was never told that I had HPV, even though I did. After each abnormal Pap test result, I would have a LEEP and colposcopy. I was cured naturally with the use of Dr Odia Cannabis herbal herbs, In 2021 I begin seeing Dr Odia, who specializes in internal and pulmonary medicine at ( drodiaherbalisthome. webs. com )

    DelvianBlue
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know it's not a popular idea, but maybe it's time to reserve some ICU beds as non-covid only. If you can't get vaccinated that's okay, you can have a bed, it's not your fault. But if you choose not to get vaccinated and don't really have a reason not to, and aren't bothering with wearing masks, social distancing, or any other precautions, maybe not all ICU beds should be first come first served. These other people's lives matter too, and it looks like we're going to be dealing with this for a long time to come. We can't let everyone with a non-covid issue die because some people won't take a pandemic seriously.

    Leah Helbig
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You guys kill me its like you think if you get covid and your unvaccinated you will die or get really sick. Simply not true more people have recovered then died. So odds are you will be fine.

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    Bunzilla
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother needs eye surgery to correct her eyesight, as it is deteriorating right now. it's been put off for months and months, because of all the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers. It's so frustrating. Not nearly as bad as the poor OP, but we're seeing the same thing happening all over the world. I spent 7.5 hours in the waiting room recently, to get seen by a doctor when I was having a sudden problem. Please, get vaccinated, and keep wearing your masks. Keep washing your hands thoroughly, and keep observing pandemic protocol. It's not just your life and the quality of your life afterwards that's at risk. You could literally kill people. And if that doesn't bother you... yikes.

    Kishibe Angelo
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    dude this is why people who are anti-vaxx are just so wrong. its a damn vaccine there are no chemicals that cause autism, not only that but you know how many lives they saved with vaccinces. not only that but they do years or months of research and you anti-vaxxers sit on your phone reading from a sketchy website. its people like you anti-vaxxers are also the reason my grandmother couldnt get a bed for treatment too

    Leah Helbig
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not sketchy website actually accredited doctors that would normally in these situations would be the go to guys but because they don't agree with the narrative the governments are pushing they try to discredit them. I am sorry if you stop allowing questions and challenges in science then is not science anymore that is the facts

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    Hotrobot
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm done. I used to firmly believe that everyone should get treated for their medical condition vaxxed or unvaxxed because I want the medical system to be as egalitarian as possible, but now after this just no. If you are unvaxxed at this point you don't deserve life saving treatment, you have caused more damage to society than any other mass murder has ever done. I have no sympathy for people dying of covid now. The only death rates I care about are of those of vaxxed people, because they care enough about others to make themselves as safe as possible to be around.

    Nikki Sevven
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The unvaccinated don't deserve an ICU bed. You chose your path. Now walk it.

    NaggerSwoosh69
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    2 years ago

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    Little update for you, Missy - the world does not revolve around you. Been waiting a whole TWO WEEKS? Gosh! Say it ain't so! Between people's rights to choose and you, you come second.

    K Witmer
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every comment you make is pure projection. Everything you say about others is exactly what you are. Your parents must've been pieces of s**t to have raised a thing like you nagger.

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    Bender Bending Rodríguez
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    2 years ago

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    Pro-plaguers should be treated like smokers are treated when it comes to lung transplant. Put them on bottom of the list. Enough with this assholes holding the world hostage and playing with other peoples lives. If pro-plaguer dies they die. Sorry not sorry. Time to get them to their consequence of their action, or inaction rather. Enough is enough for f***s sake.

    T.Milly
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    2 years ago

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    This situation isn't Covid-related. I'm fairly certain it has to due with her insurance, or lack there of. Generally, if surgery is necessary to preserve the life or quality of life of a patient, it will be performed in a timely manner.... unless Medicaid is involved or if the patient has little to no means to pay for the surgery. Even if you have decent insurance, the insurance company can always wiggle out of their obligation to pay for costly medical procedures by claiming the problem is "pre-existing." They can use the term "pre-existing" for anything & all insurance policies state this in the fine print that most people don't read. The fact that the mass/tumor hasn't been biopsied yet, when in most situations it can be biopsied (unless it's too small or in a position that makes it impossible to biopsy) indicates an insurance problem. Surgeons need to know what they're dealing with prior to surgery so they can implement the necessary& proper procedures to perform the surgery.

    Nizumi
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, you mean she should pay tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to get the operation done at a private hospital? Is that what you're saying? And where is she going to get the money? If it's just a question of insurance, then why are surgeries being postponed and cancelled in Canada? Cancer treatments put off? This situation is not COVID-caused , but it is most definitely COVID-related.

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    Piet Puk
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    2 years ago

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    This is exactly why antivaccers do not deserve medical treatment if they catch covid.

    Rissie
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    2 years ago

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    Yes, finally catching up aren't we? Also, go shop around, other hospitals might have space and or have different priorities. Especially in the US. But really, this has nothing to do with people and everything with a virus inside a population and big numbers. Our Western healthcare capacity is not based on what is necessary in extreme situations, it's built for normal day to day care. Each year children suffering from RSV and people suffering from Flu overwhelm the system. Even in countries with higher capacities. And that's because it's not cost effective for a society to have that capacity available all the time, when in fact, brain tumors and broken hips really don't give a crap. So. If you want to prepare for s**t like this, you don't blame people, you become more flexible. So stop whining, which it is to me, because this was know two years ago and start a. finding a good solution for yourself and if that works out, b. start advocating for that flexibility.

    Jerry Mathers
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I disagree with you when you say "this has nothing to do with people and everything with a virus inside a population and big numbers." Vaccinated people, when they get COVID, are significantly less likely to need to hospitalization. They are also less likely to die and to pass the disease along. Additionally, it's the unvaccinated that keep this around and allow it to mutate into a variant that tears through society. You mentioned the flu and RSV. Those diseases are still in the population, are still stressing the system, and are NOT preventable. The unvaccinated should be given a lower priority. It should be nationally advertised that they will be competing against each other for limited hospital resources and they should be held responsible for choosing to ignore the science. There is 0 credible evidence they are basing their decision to not get vaccinated on. As far as shopping around, that isn't really an option in the US. Especially across state lines.

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    Jose Arevalo
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    2 years ago

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    kinda getting tired of all the worlds problems being blamed on the unvaccinated.

    Vera1
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. This is exactly why we still have lockdowns and measures. Covid doesn't just kill people from covid, it also kills people from preventable or treatable diseases who cannot get treatment quickly enough because there are no more beds in the hospital. This goes for life threatening diseases and diseases that severely limit quality of life. You cannot survive something relatively "simple" like a car crash, if there are no beds available at the hospital.

    K Witmer
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom died in April. My uncle, her little brother died 3 weeks later, my little brother died in October. All of them died bc they could not get the treatment they needed bc of anti vaxxers. These were all 100% preventable deaths. I'm so angry and so unbelievably heartbroken that they took my family from me. My mom and uncle were fully vaccinated (my brother had his first shot) my moms cancer treatments kept getting delayed and my uncle had asthma. They were so careful and unselfish and still the antivaxxers took their lives. I'm still processing it all. It's indescribable how it feels. That quick my family was just gone.

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    Kimi Tomminello
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely not as severe as a lot of cases but I have an infection in my jaw that I've had to treat on and off with antibiotics for 8 months now because I need surgery to remove a tooth that broke in my jawline that I can't get because it's considered an elective surgery. I'm honestly sick of anti vax Covid patients clogging up every aspect of medical care. They should be the ones stuck without treatment. I don't care how unpopular this opinion is our healthcare workers are completely burned out by them, globally. It's ridiculous. The deadly consequences aren't laying on the right people and it's becoming more and more frustrating to hear stories like this. People's freedom to choose shouldn't infringe on others' freedom to live. Let the anti vax people fight Covid at home. They obviously don't believe it's a deadly virus anyway, they can fight it on their own. It's just a cold 🙄 seriously, if you don't want to get vaccinated stay the heck out of the hospital when you get sick.

    Rissie
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    2 years ago

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    Don't be mad, understand it better and find solutions. Mad is about as unnecessary as you can get, because this has been the reality for about two years now.

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    Moneythink
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can see that she's having a horrible experience, to put it mildly, but I'm skeptical that it's COVID patients who are to blame for ICU beds not being available. This link shows an estimate of ICU bed usage over time; https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/hospitalization-7-day-trend I suspect the real cause is a shortage of staff, which is probably due partly to COVID, but more so to hospitals cutting staff.

    Arctic's Gate
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It really depends on where you are. In some areas it is the COVID who is driving it, in others, it is staffing issues that are driving it, in most areas it is both. COVID patients, especially the unvaccinated ones, often require a lot more resources than the average hospital patient. In my community, they have had to keep bumping my parent's critical surgery because they can't produce enough oxygen to meet the needs of their current COVID load and perform other procedures. We are just praying that the current wave burns through quickly so that can get the surgery before permanent damage is done.

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    UpQuarkDownQuark
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    2 years ago

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    UpQuarkDownQuark
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ll add that my wife’s closest friend can’t be vaccinated due to immunological problems, and that the decent thing to do is to be sure that those of can get vaccinated do so to protect her.

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    Nizumi
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get that we can't tell unvaccinated people "Too bad so sad, we're not treating you." I get it. I'm in Canada - and strongly feel it's time the unvaccinated to be told they'll have to pay for the medical services they receive. At this point I'm so angry and disgusted with them that I think *they* should be housed in the field hospitals instead of folks like my mother in law, who spent two weeks in a prefab warehouse serving as a field hospital next to the actual hospital because, you guessed it - the actual hospital was full of unvaccinated COVID patients. All the tests she needed had to be done in the hospital - so much time lost because of all the extra protocols in place to stop the spread of COVID. She died of her brain tumour. By the time they found it, it was inoperable.

    KatHat
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have never understood anti-vaxxers, but even less do I understand anti-vaxxers who GO TO THE HOSPITAL when they get sick. Do you trust doctors, or do you not? like usual with the right wing, f*****g PICK ONE. They always want their cake and to eat it too.

    Leah Helbig
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wont if i get it because they dont know how to treat you and no one should have to be admitted if they would use the early muti drug approach that several very accredited doctors have been using also japan is using most of those people wouldnt get that sick.

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    Laugh or not
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doctors have started to question the priority for care given to covid patients who refused the vaccin. And that's why. They should be treated, but not at the expense of other people.

    Imogene Cargeaux
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm all for vaccinations... but vaccinated ppl are still getting sick and ending up in the hospital... my step sisters in the ICU right now with covid. She's 25 and vaccinated... she's the 5th person I know who has gotten covid after getting vaccinated and ended up in the hospital.... obviously we all need to be vaccinated.... BUT blaming the ICU being full on only unvaccinated ppl is unfair since it's not just those who aren't vaccinated. Also, I had to put off a surgery (for endometriosis) because I lived in NOLA and the hospitals were slammed. So I got a referral from my doctor to a hospital out of the city and was able to get in within a few weeks since it was in a lower population area. Also, my doctor was even willing to do my surgery at a different hospital if the surgeon she referred me to couldn't get me in in time. There are other options.

    Margaret C Hirschman
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was diagnosed with Stage 2 cervical cancer (adenocarcinoma) at age 36. I was a single mother with two children, ages 6 and 8. I had abnormal Pap smears starting 8 years prior, when I was pregnant with my daughter. I was never told that I had HPV, even though I did. After each abnormal Pap test result, I would have a LEEP and colposcopy. I was cured naturally with the use of Dr Odia Cannabis herbal herbs, In 2021 I begin seeing Dr Odia, who specializes in internal and pulmonary medicine at ( drodiaherbalisthome. webs. com )

    DelvianBlue
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know it's not a popular idea, but maybe it's time to reserve some ICU beds as non-covid only. If you can't get vaccinated that's okay, you can have a bed, it's not your fault. But if you choose not to get vaccinated and don't really have a reason not to, and aren't bothering with wearing masks, social distancing, or any other precautions, maybe not all ICU beds should be first come first served. These other people's lives matter too, and it looks like we're going to be dealing with this for a long time to come. We can't let everyone with a non-covid issue die because some people won't take a pandemic seriously.

    Leah Helbig
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You guys kill me its like you think if you get covid and your unvaccinated you will die or get really sick. Simply not true more people have recovered then died. So odds are you will be fine.

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    Bunzilla
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother needs eye surgery to correct her eyesight, as it is deteriorating right now. it's been put off for months and months, because of all the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers. It's so frustrating. Not nearly as bad as the poor OP, but we're seeing the same thing happening all over the world. I spent 7.5 hours in the waiting room recently, to get seen by a doctor when I was having a sudden problem. Please, get vaccinated, and keep wearing your masks. Keep washing your hands thoroughly, and keep observing pandemic protocol. It's not just your life and the quality of your life afterwards that's at risk. You could literally kill people. And if that doesn't bother you... yikes.

    Kishibe Angelo
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    dude this is why people who are anti-vaxx are just so wrong. its a damn vaccine there are no chemicals that cause autism, not only that but you know how many lives they saved with vaccinces. not only that but they do years or months of research and you anti-vaxxers sit on your phone reading from a sketchy website. its people like you anti-vaxxers are also the reason my grandmother couldnt get a bed for treatment too

    Leah Helbig
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not sketchy website actually accredited doctors that would normally in these situations would be the go to guys but because they don't agree with the narrative the governments are pushing they try to discredit them. I am sorry if you stop allowing questions and challenges in science then is not science anymore that is the facts

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    Hotrobot
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm done. I used to firmly believe that everyone should get treated for their medical condition vaxxed or unvaxxed because I want the medical system to be as egalitarian as possible, but now after this just no. If you are unvaxxed at this point you don't deserve life saving treatment, you have caused more damage to society than any other mass murder has ever done. I have no sympathy for people dying of covid now. The only death rates I care about are of those of vaxxed people, because they care enough about others to make themselves as safe as possible to be around.

    Nikki Sevven
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The unvaccinated don't deserve an ICU bed. You chose your path. Now walk it.

    NaggerSwoosh69
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    2 years ago

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    Little update for you, Missy - the world does not revolve around you. Been waiting a whole TWO WEEKS? Gosh! Say it ain't so! Between people's rights to choose and you, you come second.

    K Witmer
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every comment you make is pure projection. Everything you say about others is exactly what you are. Your parents must've been pieces of s**t to have raised a thing like you nagger.

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    Bender Bending Rodríguez
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    Pro-plaguers should be treated like smokers are treated when it comes to lung transplant. Put them on bottom of the list. Enough with this assholes holding the world hostage and playing with other peoples lives. If pro-plaguer dies they die. Sorry not sorry. Time to get them to their consequence of their action, or inaction rather. Enough is enough for f***s sake.

    T.Milly
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    This situation isn't Covid-related. I'm fairly certain it has to due with her insurance, or lack there of. Generally, if surgery is necessary to preserve the life or quality of life of a patient, it will be performed in a timely manner.... unless Medicaid is involved or if the patient has little to no means to pay for the surgery. Even if you have decent insurance, the insurance company can always wiggle out of their obligation to pay for costly medical procedures by claiming the problem is "pre-existing." They can use the term "pre-existing" for anything & all insurance policies state this in the fine print that most people don't read. The fact that the mass/tumor hasn't been biopsied yet, when in most situations it can be biopsied (unless it's too small or in a position that makes it impossible to biopsy) indicates an insurance problem. Surgeons need to know what they're dealing with prior to surgery so they can implement the necessary& proper procedures to perform the surgery.

    Nizumi
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, you mean she should pay tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to get the operation done at a private hospital? Is that what you're saying? And where is she going to get the money? If it's just a question of insurance, then why are surgeries being postponed and cancelled in Canada? Cancer treatments put off? This situation is not COVID-caused , but it is most definitely COVID-related.

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    Piet Puk
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    This is exactly why antivaccers do not deserve medical treatment if they catch covid.

    Rissie
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    2 years ago

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    Yes, finally catching up aren't we? Also, go shop around, other hospitals might have space and or have different priorities. Especially in the US. But really, this has nothing to do with people and everything with a virus inside a population and big numbers. Our Western healthcare capacity is not based on what is necessary in extreme situations, it's built for normal day to day care. Each year children suffering from RSV and people suffering from Flu overwhelm the system. Even in countries with higher capacities. And that's because it's not cost effective for a society to have that capacity available all the time, when in fact, brain tumors and broken hips really don't give a crap. So. If you want to prepare for s**t like this, you don't blame people, you become more flexible. So stop whining, which it is to me, because this was know two years ago and start a. finding a good solution for yourself and if that works out, b. start advocating for that flexibility.

    Jerry Mathers
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I disagree with you when you say "this has nothing to do with people and everything with a virus inside a population and big numbers." Vaccinated people, when they get COVID, are significantly less likely to need to hospitalization. They are also less likely to die and to pass the disease along. Additionally, it's the unvaccinated that keep this around and allow it to mutate into a variant that tears through society. You mentioned the flu and RSV. Those diseases are still in the population, are still stressing the system, and are NOT preventable. The unvaccinated should be given a lower priority. It should be nationally advertised that they will be competing against each other for limited hospital resources and they should be held responsible for choosing to ignore the science. There is 0 credible evidence they are basing their decision to not get vaccinated on. As far as shopping around, that isn't really an option in the US. Especially across state lines.

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    Jose Arevalo
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    kinda getting tired of all the worlds problems being blamed on the unvaccinated.

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