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Very often, when people open up about their problems or negative thoughts they have, the first instinct of the other person is to cheer them up, try to reassure them that everything will work out and that there are worse things that could happen. People who try to make the troubled person feel better don’t usually mean any harm, but they actually are forcing positivity on a person that can’t see the lighter side of the situation at that moment.

Dismissing negative emotions, trying to forcefully see something good in a terrible situation and trying to find false reassurances is called toxic positivity. It often becomes a way to respond to a distressful situation when you don’t know what else to say. But feeling the emotions that you’re having is important, regardless of whether they are positive or negative.

People in the subreddit AskWomen understand that and share some phrases they would consider to fall under the toxic positivity category and would like to stop hearing. What they would like to hear instead is compassion and well wishes.

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#1

40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group “It all made you stronger” It rubs me the wrong way because it invalidates all the bulls**t I had to claw through. I made me stronger. Trauma made me weak, tired, and a repulsive version of myself. If I allowed that to control my life’s outcomes I would be in a dark ass place. I put in the work. I made me strong. All that destroyed me.

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Caro Caro
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Upvote for "I made me strong". Brilliant.

Leo Domitrix
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" really means "You're alive, but crippled, in pain, and trying to survive, and nobody gives a rat's ass about you".

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MyOpinionHasBeenServed
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anytime someone says this what they're really saying is "You're being too negative so I'm going to make you think your problem is a positive thing and then I won't have to hear about it anymore."

Susan Atkinson
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dad left mom w/6 minors, I was 8 and cooking for the family. My single mother made us independent through hard work and kindness. Married, had 2 sons 18 months apart. Oldest became paraplegic at 18 from a cold. My 2nd died from pneumonia at 26. I'm fighting my 2nd fight against breast cancer. Life made me strong 💪

Demetri Bryant
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

EXACTLY. So much of humanity seems QUICK to "make light work" of someone else's life experiences while crying loudly (or faux-stoicly) about their own.

Alaska
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4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The one I hate the most, no matter what is said... "wait until you're my age". Especially when it comes to being in pain. It's like they're telling you that until you're "as old as they are" you're not allowed to feel any pain. I cannot tell you how much this angers me. I literally fell down a flight of stairs, could barely stand up, and my co-workers were like "at least you're young". Firstly, 35 is not exactly young. Second, f**k off.

Keley Babs
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to mention, usually said to someone who is just needing to vent/share, NOT take toxic positive advice/suggestions

WhatEvenIsLife
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know this is a random side tangent, but this is exactly what bugged the s**t out of me about Sansa telling The Hound that all the s**t she went through made her who she was, completely invalidating all of her character growth, intelligence, strength, etc.

Blarrg
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That which does not kill you delays the inevitable.

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4 years ago

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    #2

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group My grandma telling me that I have to put up with nasty family members “because they’re FaaaMilYYYYYyyyy”. Gtfo, they are bad people and I’m not going to let them poison my life because we’re related.

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    TrixicBird(Any pronouns)
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For the longest time for me it was; "Stop being gay when grandma's over! it upsets her!" Like wow! Where is the off switch?

    Terilee Bruyere
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can't choose your biological family, but you CAN choose whether or not they a part in your life (at least once you are old enough to have those choices, minors are kind of stuck, especially if they have parents who don't give a crud).

    Freya the Wanderer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb!

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    Mazer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I released my family of the burden of having to be anywhere near me. I won.

    Agnes Jekyll
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I told my mom--why do I have to unconditionally love someone who I wouldn't even go for coffee with if we weren't related? (she did not like it)

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You mean the same family that knew we were being abused and did nothing? *THAT* family?

    Mich
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cut toxic people out of your life, blood ties or not. The blood tied toxic peeps are the ones that do the most damage.

    De Gueb
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally agree. I prefer some of my friends families.

    Sasha
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom telling me this about my abusive younger brother, even as she cuts all ties and refuses to ever talk again to her abusive younger brother 🤨

    Memere
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've cut several family member out of my life, one being my youngest brother. My mother always wanted us to stick together & she truly believed in "family", but I refuse to have anything to do with a family member who won't help when desperately needed. Especially when I was the one who was ALWAYS there to help when his raving alcoholic ex-wife was trashing his life!

    Nadine Bamberger
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Often comes with "I did it because I love you, care about you". Doesn't mean it didn't hurt, was wrong and traumatized me.

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    #3

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group "You don't need medication for depression or anxiety. You just need to go outside and smile more!"

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    Boudica
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ooh Caro, you got piss through the BP censor! Ooh, so did I - obvs not a swear word then....my kids were right :-D

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    T.Milly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Says someone who has never struggled with depression or anxiety.

    littlesaresare
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or possibly toxic denial. In hindsight I had pretty severe depression as a child and teenager, but I was never allowed to be anything other than cheerful and outwardly excessively positive, else I was accused of being an ungrateful brat just wanting attention. I internalised it pretty effectively, that depression was not real and people were just complaining about things or being negative. It can take a while to accept that you've been gaslighted into believing something so harmful.

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    Goth mouse (they/them)
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, some people think you’re choosing to have clinical depression and suicidal thoughts and ‘just need to smile more.’ 😞 smiling does not cure a serious illness.

    Viviane
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And having the proverbial "men who tell random women on the street to smile" isn't terribly helpful.

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    J Robertson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a pharmacist say this to me when picking up my meds. I was so stunned I didn't say anything. Was telling my mom about it and she goes to the same pharmacy. She apparently had a word with her supervisor. I was like 42 at the time. Mama bear until the end. She actually told someone last week that her "baby just turned 46."

    Viviane
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your mother sounds great! One of my sisters was "my kid sister" until a bit after 40. :D

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    Sasha
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dont need to drink more water and go outside in the sun, Im not a f*****g plant....

    Dee Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mental illness is not a personal failure or a character defect. It is real, just like any other disorder. You can't just pretend it away, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, or rely on 'faith healing' to make it better. It takes work - damned hard work - and sometimes meds. No shame in any of it!

    White Wolf
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those depression and anxiety medications saved my life.

    Kim Contreras
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes!!! Without their stabilizing I would not be able to function in life, and would have surely have successfully given up on the whole effort. Find a doctor that treats the WHOLE patient, not just a dispenser of drugs. And then realize it will take time and quite a bit of trial and error before you and your doctor (yes, you are a very important part of the team!) get the best possible med or combination of meds to get you back on track.

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    Kim Contreras
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or my very favorite: if you're depressed you are either too focused on yourself or that you need to have more faith.

    Dani Alexander
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep go outside, put on a fake smile, walk around then go back inside and cry. Stupid thing to tell a depressed person On meds.

    Zophra
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An then there's those who tell you to pray more.... are you praying away your diabetes? I think not.

    KiwiBubbles
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gotta tell ya, I'm Christian, I pray all the time, every night, before meals, etc... It does not make you immune to mental illness. Still needed to go to my doctor and get medication. And for me, the meds are what worked, it's a lot easier to be happy with them. Any Christian who's tellin ya to pray your mental illness away is being rude and they're wrong.

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    #4

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group When my husband passed away unexpectedly at age 50 (together 32 years) more than one person said to me " my divorce was like a death too". Nope, not even close.

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    Caro Caro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How anyone can compare divorce to death is beyond me. I looked this up on reddit and it was a few years ago, she is happily remarried.

    littlesaresare
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Years ago I had an attempt on my life by someone I knew. The counsellor at my uni likened it to a "disagreement" between her and her husband where he wanted to move somewhere and she didn't. People make pretty bizarre comparisons.

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    Ellie Rosser
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It can cause you as much grief, but it is a very different kind of grief.

    juice
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yes. and comparing them is so insensitive!

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    Kanuli
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep...can imagine. Choosing not to see someone ever again vs never being able to see someone again, no matter how much you wanted to...

    deanna woods
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you get divorced that person is still there, you just aren't married to them anymore. When a spouse dies, it's like a part of you is gone.

    Henry Tuttle
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand that she's probably right. But she can't really judge unless she's been through both. And, even then, it probably depends on a lot of factors that vary from person to person. For instance, the death of a person who you were forced to stay with is probably easier than getting divorced from a person you still love.

    Heidi Denton
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They were together since she was 18?

    Eric Freudenthal
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sorry that your life partner died. This is your loss, and it's as personal and unique as you, him, the relationship you shared.

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    #5

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group When my dad passed away, a lot of people told me 'he's in a better place.' I know it's super common to say, but we're not religious in the slightest and we wanted him here, for f**k's sake.

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    LeilaOdinis
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always found that insulting after my father died. I get people don't know what to say when one dies, but this was the biggest slap in the face for me.

    Helen Haley
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I prefer a straightforward' this just really sucks, do you need anything?'

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    Pheebs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always hated “you be strong for [other grieving person]” like your grief doesn’t matter. When my stepdad died, I basically got told to be glad it wasn’t my husband, stop my crying, and to be strong for my mom. F-off. He was my dad for 28 years.

    Bexxxxx
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F that, 28 years is a long time. Being your dad is worth more than enough. I hope you were able to grieve your way.

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    Frankenfrog
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly! Don't push your religion on people

    Eric Freudenthal
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I appreciate when people try to help, even if they have no idea how to do so. And if it's not helpful to them, I try to resist correcting them when they're off target.

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    Foxxy (The Original)
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not religious so to me, when someone dies they are gone. Not to heaven, not to hell. No afterlife or haunting etc. Just gone.

    Sasha
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cool, HES in a better place. Youre still suffering though.

    Bexxxxx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Best comment I got when someone close to me passed away was “wow, that sucks. That sucks beyond belief. That’s awful,” and then they just sat with me. I really appreciated the acknowledgment.

    Debbie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they've been ill, like having cancer, I prefer to say: at least they are not in pain anymore. Or something along those lines. Their suffering has ended, and that might be a small comfort. And it says nothing about "afterlife". But if there was no illness or pain beforehand... "I'm so sorry for your loss".

    Frankenfrog
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a much better thing to say, honestly.

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    Jihana
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been to a few catholic funerals, and the thing I absolutely hate the most is when the priest says that we should not be sad that the person died. It's so infuriating!

    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People say the most stupid things at funerals. Just show some empathy and sympathy and bloody mean it.

    Lord Mysticlaw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate it too because I'm not religious and d far as I'm concerned they're not in a better place, they're just gone. But I get that this is something people say because they don't know what to say, and also I get that people who are religious really do believe that and I try to respect that. Just because I'm not religious it doesn't give me the right to tell religious people they're wrong.

    ZAPanda
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    4 years ago

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    Yes it does, it's called freedom of speech. If they feel the right to tell you their myth, you have a right to tell yours.

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    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group "You'll change your mind" and every sentences I can hear when I tell people I don't want kids. That toxic mentality of women have to be mothers. I've realized at 12yo that I never want kids. 13 later, I still haven't changed my mind. My husband also doesn't want kids so at least we're on the same page.

    alienonymous2 , Sunny Ripert Report

    Ranax
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just reply: " you'll soon regret yours"... Oh you think that that's inappropriate?

    Debbie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sometimes do. Though I wouldn't want to miss them for all the money in the world. But somedays, I dream of how my life could have been without kids. And it's unimaginable actually.

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    Catpoker88
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You'll change your mind" the amount of doctors who said that to me when I was fighting to get sterilized was insane. Not only do I not want kids, but I have a medical condition where pregnancy could kill me and I was still told " you'll change your mind". It took years of fighting and many many doctors visits before I finally found a doctor who listened to me. The fact that so many people see motherhood as the" end all be all" for women is absolutely disgusting. People who say they don't want kids, know their own minds and telling them that they in fact, do not know what they want, is just a d*ck move.

    Petra conig
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an old woman with no kids, it ain't that simple, bits u regret, bits u don't. Being old is being vulnerable and u need support, friends are rarely the kind of friend that gives that. Some mothers are bad and their kids walk, some are good and their kids are there for them.

    Cecily Holland
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Give me grandchild even though getting pregnant will be signing your own death warrant.” No thanks.

    Janice Blaufox
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an aunt and uncle who did not want kids. They used their money to travel all over the world. They had a great life.

    kit kat
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    4 years ago

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    It may have looked glamorous but I doubt their lives were all that happy

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    Little Wonder
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, I knew at about 12 it wasn't for me. I'm 43 now and I have zero regrets and have never changed my mind.

    Terilee Bruyere
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In their defense, some people do change their minds. But telling someone they are wrong about their feelings is just rude.

    Frankenfrog
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And people regret having children as well. Should we run around saying this to them as well. And declared childfree people who ends up with kids were never child free in the first place or they would have made sure it didn't happen.

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    Janet C
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG I heard that, and worse, so many times. I knew at 16 I never wanted kids. I'm now 66 and I've never had one minute of regret.

    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    try it from doctors who tell you this when you're suffering endometriosis and can't have kids anyway but god forbid a woman get a hysterectomy .....

    Lillukka79
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got the, "your period pains will get better after kids" yeah no. My pain management wont be relying on making more humans, give me the drugs against both.

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    #7

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group Everything happens for a reason or God never gives you more than you can handle.

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    Foxxy (The Original)
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If God supposedly never gives you more than you can handle, then please explain all the suicides, addicts, people with depression and other mental health issues etc.

    Zophra
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well according to what I was taught in church, they didn;t have enough faith in god. (heavy eye roll)

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    Miriam L
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a phase that should rarely be said to another person, and I say that as a person of faith. Sometimes the reasons are painful. Sometimes you will be pushed too hard. When you're in that much pain, you need to know that the people around you are there to support you and accept whatever feelings you're feeling. Unless you ask for counsel or speak to a religious mentor, this should not come up. Unsolicited, it can cause more interpersonal damage, emotional pain and spiritual disconnection than not giving that advice. If/when you're ready to look at the situation from that perspective, it can be a valuable tool. Until then, it's unhelpful. That's leaving aside the theology and philosophy behind the statement for now. I'm not here to debate the truth of it, just to share my agreement.

    KiwiBubbles
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. Thank you for phrasing this so well.

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    Sarah Watson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh so it was bc God wanted me to become an alcoholic, ruin my life and end up homeless. I'm so relieved that none of that was due to my terrible decision making!

    Susan Atkinson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I heard either one of these "comfort" phrases one more time after the death of my son I was going to hurt someone. Worst things to say.

    J Robertson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is no god. Stop it. Stop thanking your god for the s**t you did, you did that! Own it! Good or bad. That's all on you.

    Salma Hernández
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i grown in a christian family and constantly heard this. And now I hate this. Are you telling me if I am abducted, raped, that person kill me and made my family suffer is because is part of God plans and he permitted this because as a family we can handle this?

    ZAPanda
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, tell that to 6 million jews, 11 million congolese.

    Beeps
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Along with “God never closes a door without opening another…” 😣

    Michael Payne
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is non sense God regularly gives you more than you can handle. Check the source

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    #8

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group Just don't think about it. Thanks mom, sure my constant headaches will go away when I just don't think about it! A 12 year old shouldn't have headaches non-stop in the first place but whatever.

    Red_tiny_Panda , Gareth Williams Report

    NotTodaySatan!!
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have had migraines my entire life. Once a doctor told me they were simply, "all in my head". Yes, yes they were. And that day it was right in my left temple. Some doctors are complete idiots with no empathy.

    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have an MD, and I have epilepsy. Early on, a doc told me it was all in my head as in "imagined", and I said, "of course it's all in my head, it's epilepsy, not a broken finger!"

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    Joanie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was told how to cure my debilitating PTSD "just don't think about it".

    littlesaresare
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My therapist said this also regarding my PTSD. Awful at the time, obviously, but it's since become a running joke between my flatmate and I. Got a headache? Just don't think about it. Bills due? Just don't think about it. Car broke down? Just don't think about it. On fire? Just don't think about it! Flawless cure for everything, every time.

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    snipergun
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're absolutely right! Just wondering (experience from what I noticed about older generation women in my family), they did not have option to rest when they had migraines too, so that's probably reason why they say this... They just never knew any different way how to go through that unfortunately.

    More Thinking Needed
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe the 12 year old should see a doctor?

    lfc73
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear folks, get checked. Be your own advocate! I had no symptoms, until I couldn't see the edges of things, then my vision started to become white from the outsides of my field of vision. Eventually, I went to an Eye & Ear specialist. I had a pituitary tumor that was pressing on my optic nerve. Headaches, vision changes, whatever it bothering you, seek the best possible medical help. It could save your life. xo

    Cecily Holland
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Dr said it was stress related in other words in my head for 10 years. Until the 1cm Aneurysm exploded and required them them to remove the top 1/3 of my skull to get at it. I fired him from the ICU 24 hours later

    lara
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After I finished grad school and a dear friend of mine, who smoked, died, I quit having sinus headaches. They were bad. What the difference was that when I was a GTA some of the other grad students in our office smoked. My mom smoked,. so since not being around anyone who smoked, no more obscenely painful sinus headaches.

    Joy Barceló
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was told that they couldn't be headaches if I had them all the time - that was just normal. How could I know it was painful if it was the way I always felt...

    Thomas Sweda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would think about falling out of that dress!

    Gini Sarver
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    omg my husband has said that to me about my mom dying, he means well, but he’s not said for quite a while because i told him through my tears when he finds a way to make that happen to lmk

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    #9

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group Pretty much everything about using the power of prayer and positive thinking to attract good things to your life and protect you from negative experiences and outcomes. It's all victim-blaming bulls**t. Telling someone that they should simply put more effort into their positive thoughts/prayers and that they are attracting the negative things that are occurring in their lives is incredibly inappropriate and sh**ty.

    nevertruly , Chris Hunkeler Report

    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is all code for "You are ultimately to blame for everything that happened to you." I even heard that the "power of attraction" means the Jews brought the Holocaust on themselves. No joke. It was in a book about positive thinking. WTF?!

    Dee Lee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it actually worked, wouldn't we all be rich, healthy, happy, and world peace would actually be a thing?

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it were this easy, the Holocaust wouldn’t have happened, the genocides would not have happened. It’s toxic magical thinking

    A B C
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Naaaah, all those people in concentration camps just didn't think themselves away enough! /s 🙄

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    Lyone Fein
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not how prayer works. God is not Santa Claus. Prayer is about giving thanks, and about focusing the heart and mind........not about asking for stuff.

    Jessica Gunn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So then what's the point in praying for the sick, or elderly church members that are in hospital? What's the point in "praying for peace"? What's the point in praying for another person? What about a prayer for forgiveness? Or for that matter, the entire Lord's Prayer? Or the serenity prayer? "Lord give me strength"? "Lord forgive me"?....I beg to differ, prayer IS about asking for stuff

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    Viviane
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Advocating "positive thinking" ignores a lot of variables. Even with optimism, s**t happens and can be quite traumatic.

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    Sam rice
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'sending my prayers!' 🤮

    Mark Karol-Chik
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A world religion free would be so much more peaceful

    ZAPanda
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah these people you just say, oh right, that's why you are a billionaire with a yacht.

    Bozza
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, I watch a lot of porn (because I'm a man)...and I have spent years fantasising about making sweeeeeeet luuurve to a particular 'actress'. Long story short she appeared in my neighbourhood, we hooked up, she pleasured me, I disappointed her...that's my LOA!

    Szymon
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This entire comment is just wrong on so many levels

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    #10

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group 'you have it much better than other people' Okay, I know that's true. But I hate it when people invalidate my experience without being in my shoes.

    thattallgirlinblack , vanguardist Report

    Evy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I often invalidate my own experiences or pain by saying this. I think it's the guilt that I've been brought up with.

    Lord Mysticlaw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your broken arm doesn't make my sprained ankle hurt any less.

    Dave van Es
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone tells you the whole others have it worse BS, tell them they can't be happy, because others are happier. It's the same BS

    ERIKA H.
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you can't be sad because "other people have it worse", then i guess you also can't be happy "because other people have it better"

    NsG
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Misery Olympics silver medalist!

    Szymon
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just because someone has it worse, doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to feel or recognize your pain. A mother might lose one of her kids, but another might lose two of her kids, does that invalidate the first one in any way?

    Stephanie Cunningham
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I experienced this just a couple of hours ago. My boss was informing me that I didn't get the promotion I've been working toward for 15+ years. When I told him how upsetting it was, he mentioned several coworkers who have tried for promotions but didn't get them. It's like finding out someone's mom died and telling them they shouldn't be upset because other people's moms have died, too. The presence of others who have suffered a similar pain does not negate what I feel.

    Mark Kelly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hate when people say "it could be worse" But it could also be better.

    Mazer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wealthy people have their share of misery

    Cat-tree
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is such BS. We live in a world with almost 8 billion people: no matter how horrible things happen to someone, there will always be people that have it even worse. Besides, how is other people's misery supposed to make any decent person to feel better?

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    #11

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group ‘You think that’s bad? Wait til you hear what happened to me - it’s worse!’

    photosquirrel , Susanne Nilsson Report

    Michael Payne
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yours maybe worse but this is the worst I have delt with. I hate it when people say that it is not a competition.

    Pheebs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I appreciate commiseration stories, but the “mine is always worse” mentality sucks.

    Tamra Stiffler
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like people who say this aren't really listening... they're just waiting for you to finish talking so they can talk about themselves.

    BoredHuman
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Mom is like this and has been her entire life. "what about meeeeeeee" is her favourite saying

    NsG
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Misery Olympics gold medalist here

    Pudgy Panda
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my son’s father died in a car accident, a “friend” tried to say it wasn’t as hard on him as her kids losing their father to cancer. WTH - I would never try to compare people’s grief. Yes, your kids saw their dad suffer, but they also had ample time to say everything they wanted to including goodbye. My kid saw his dad wave goodbye and never saw him again. Both are equally sad circumstances.

    Soleil SanMao
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work with a woman that does that constantly. Every time you tell her something, she minimizes your situation by topping it with hers. I literally had to tell her a few days ago your situation with your family is your experience but now I am telling you about mine and it affects me too. And she has chased everyone away because of it. Now she has suffered a family loss and no one cares about her feelings. If you tell everyone else to "suck it up." Guess what? So do you.

    DoyleAlan
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. I must work with her twin then. I'm sorry you have to work with someone like that.

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    Lynne Harbison
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone says to you...there are people who are worse than you. I always say, I know that, but I can't live THEIR life, I can only live MY own. That shuts them up..,even my doctor!

    Don't Look
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One uppers. I try to avoid them.

    Lav Oravaf
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my siblings have done this to me my whole life. they are all married with kids, and I am the only single independent fok-it-all little sister. anything happens to me, literally even the worse thing (which happened) and it's peanuts compared their various sufferings.. so couple of years ago... bye bye y'all

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    #12

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group I lost my first pregnancy earlier this year. It sucked massively and I fell into a depression. A close family member just kept trying to make me 'see the positive side of it'. It's been a while now but to this day, I see no frigging positive side of having lost my child. That, to me, was toxic positivity at its best.

    EnvironmentalDonut68 , Ernest James Report

    Susan Atkinson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sorry you've had to endure this toxic comment. I've been waiting 15 years for a reason my healthy 26yo died.

    Dee Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is no good reason, and that's part of the horror of losing a child. My sympathies!

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    Jihana
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the hell does this even mean? Be glad your child is dead because now you can afford more expensive clothes? WTF?

    Amy S
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was told 'at least you know you can conceive' after one miscarriage. It did not help.

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    K. Lange
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So sorry for your loss. I can also not think about a positive aspect about it.

    Caro Caro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so so sorry for your loss. Ofcourse you're sad. God, losing a child is hell. Hugs.

    H05
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shortly after I went through the same devastating situation my husband and I were at a friend's house. Friend has 5 kids and they were driving him nuts... he leans over to my husband and says "you might have dodged a bullet" I've never truly forgiven that comment.

    Memere
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is an unforgivable comment & you do not need to forgive that so-called "friend" - he needs to apologize.

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    JensenDK
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Happened to me to - 37 yo, first pregnancy after fertility-treatment and I lost it after a few weeks of happiness. At the time I hated all those comments about 'for the best' and so on.Somebody even tried to make a contest - was it worse for me loosing at 7 weeks or her loosing at 14? Today - two kids and 19 years after, I can see what they meant. Yep - that little one was probably not able to live, and nature took it's course. But I do remember the sorrow at the time and would never, ever say anything like that to a person in that situation.

    Linda Roy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to outdo the OP, but my mother told me after my first pregnancy ended in a miscarriage, that it was a good thing because there must've been something wrong with my baby. Thanks a f*****g lot, mom, and I'm glad you're dead. Good riddance.

    Judy Steelman
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good side. That person needs mental health help

    Kai
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Man I am sorry that you had to hear that

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    #13

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group “At least he doesn’t hit you!” like wow I’m supposed to put up with allllllll the BS because he’s doing something he should?

    postmclone , Ricardo Liberato Report

    NotTodaySatan!!
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My stepdad was an abusive alcoholic when I was little (in high school he was diagnosed with a chemical imbalance and it was treated, making him the most amazing dad ever). When I expressed the desire to divorce my first husband whom had been cheating on me for over a year with the same woman, and with other women in years prior, my mom asked, "are you sure that is bad enough for you to end your marriage??". Which made me stay for 5 more years. I guess in perspective, no, it wasn't as bad as what we had been through with my stepfather, but... really???

    Demetri Bryant
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I guess the institution of marriage is much more important than the actual quality of life of the humans caught in it.

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    Terilee Bruyere
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As person who went through sexual, physical and emotional abuse, I can say that the emotional abuse hurts the longest.

    Caro Caro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No bandaids excist for emotional abuse. Hugs for you Terilee.

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    Dee Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex DID beat me. When I told my mother I was divorcing him, she said I couldn't because we were "married forever in the eyes of the Lord." F^ that and F* anyone who tells you how much sh!t you need to take before you won't take anymore!

    Terilee Bruyere
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are NOBODY'S punching bag, and shame on your mum for expecting you to be. I'm hope you're in a safer situation now.

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    Lord Mysticlaw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My first boyfriend was insanely emotionally abusive but, ironically, was SO proud of himself that he would never hit a woman because his mom had a boyfriend who hit her and he would never do that. Hitting me probably would have been better than what he did to me, it's been 14 years and I'm still a mess thanks to him.

    Zophra
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well this is setting the bar pretty low...

    Jess Thompson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The bar is so low for men, it’s borderline mass Stockholm syndrome for the Herero female

    Susie Elle
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not experiencing physical abuse from a spouse is the LEAST admirable thing in a relationship.

    littlesaresare
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Well he took you to the hospital so he can't be that bad."

    Verena Abt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sometimes wished my ex would have hit me more often and leave bruises, so I would have proof! Being psychologically abused can be worse because no one believes you or says stuff like this.

    Sherri Mantooth Bagwell
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd rather be punched in the face than go through some of mental abuse I endured in my past. Constant criticism-- lazy & fat (I weighed 128#!), telling me he could pick up a girl in a bar easier than I could p/u a guy (who does that?!?), girlfriend on the sly, belittling my young children, telling me I was crazy. Yeah...I got out of that mess.

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    #14

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group Different variations of "You can't have kids? Take mine for a day and you'll be happy you don't have one of your own! Kids suck lol" Yeah, you being a s***ty parent certainly makes me feel better about being infertile.

    Kitteh_Kate , lecates Report

    Caro Caro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want children and can't have them then that's really sad and saying stupid stuff like that is cruel.

    Otter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I regard infertility as a blessing and a convenience. My own, I mean.

    Petra conig
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women with the holy mother complex make bad mothers, they control and smother, anyone saying that will prob never see her kids when they grow up. I once had someone say that the whole point of life was having children. People like that are not worth knowing

    MyOpinionHasBeenServed
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a parent I have never said this, nor thought of it. But I've always wondered about the parents that went around saying they hate their kids.

    Flopsy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love my daughter and she is the center of my universe and i do my best to be a present and available mom. But yes it is hard, and yes I celebrate it when I get some time alone and yes I share this with people.

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    Rosesinmyhair
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "If you REALLY wanted a child you would stop at nothing to make it happen." ("Excellent! Can I have one of your eggs and would you carry the baby for me?" Oh no I could never do that.") Not rich enough and too old and single to adopt from O/S and home.Not eligible for fertility treatment as would be futile. Approved to be a foster carer but an unexpected health problem took me out of the program before I could start. I didn't know I would be menopausal in my early 30s People!!! All this and still being told..by some of my insanely fertile Sisters, no less "You don't know/understand ..you don't have kids". Family..You Love them but you don't have to like them all of the time 💔. Then all the comments in my early 40s when I got married..Tick Tok etc. Stop. Please..Just STOP for all women (fertile or non fertile) everywhere! It's exhausting and it's a sadness in me that is ever present and doesn't go away.

    Elizabeth Molloy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not being facetious, but why do you want kids?

    Rosesinmyhair
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly.... No.One.Knows 😮😄😂. All Power to Parents everywhere 🌏🌐 ❤!

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    Susan Atkinson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people Suck more than other people.

    Shelli PL
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know this pain and it certainly heals over when you become a parent but you never forget those very lonely, hard days and night. Also ppl can be so demeaning during infertility. There’s no good answer except pls send a lovely note to someone struggling. No mention of infertility or babies, just tell them they matter. It saved me from the brink.

    Rob Steenvoorde
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another one I heard a lot: "I know how it feels if you can't have kids. For us it also took a while to get pregnant." No, you b*tch. You have kids, we don't, how can this be the same? In the same category: "Did someone mention it to you that you guys could also go for adoption? There are so many kids needing a good home" Yes, literally everyone tells me this. It's not friggin' the same! Also, why didn't you go for adoption if you think all these kids need saving? Also also, adoption in a lot of cases is legalized child traffic nowadays. Do you even read newspapers?

    R De Backer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many wonderful people cannot naturally have children while so many awful people have children and totally ruin the kids lives. Life is unfair. Not speaking for myself as I by choice don’t have kids but know a few couples who would be stellar fantastic parents and some others that should have been prohibited from having children as they are terrible parents.

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    #15

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group In group therapy someone said that they're proud, they never got depressed, no matter what life threw at them. Because they're such a positive and strong person. With a person with depression sitting right next to them. I am glad I don't have a tendency towards depression either. But I'm not proud of it, because it's a sickness you're prone to, or you aren't. It's not a weakness. And the fact that we're all sitting together in group therapy shows that we all have one or another unhealthy coping mechanism in place and so far, we weren't able to positive-think our way out of them.

    Zeiserl , JourneyPure Rehab Report

    Otter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why was that person in group therapy???

    Phil Vaive
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I'm proud of myself for never having had cancer!"

    David Struve
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And this is why I have always refused when offered group therapy sessions. For one the last thing I need during my depression states is to be around other people with depression - it makes mine even worse! Also group therapy DOES NOT WORK and anyone telling you otherwise is bullshitting you. Even if I had the EXACT IDENTICAL SAME experience as the person next to me, we'll both have completely unique reactions and end results from that experience due to everyone being a unique individual and there being no such thing as an "average" human. Not to mention you just end up with far less actual beneficial time spent with a therapist since you have to share that same limited time with a whole room of people. It's just a way for either a) therapists to gain more money by being able to take on more clients at a time or b) an organization or government to cheap out on paying/recruiting more therapy staff and not genuinely invest in people's emotional wellbeing.

    Nikole
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds like they were trying to convince themselves...

    Mazer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Passive aggressiveness should be called out by the moderator

    Penny Fan
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's one of the many reasons I loathe group therapy. It always devolves into some kind of competition

    Viviane
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It has to be really well-mediated. I was in a group with an attentive psychologist who calmly explained things when there was tension. My brother had someone who told him to handle it when he complained about another person in the group.

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    Frankenfrog
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In group therapy.... never depressed..... yeah right

    Auntie Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My depression and I would've walked the person that did not have depression out in to the traffic.

    Moya Satterwhite
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is there group therapy? I don’t need my problem being a group conversation, my problems are nobodies business.

    Joanna Werman
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've never been able to change the chemical in my brain by thinking happy thoughts

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    #16

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group “Pain is all in your head” Do f**k off with that.

    GlumMathematician884 , Andy Report

    Ranax
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her headache is in her head, no arguing with that

    Adam Belaire
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Technically true as all nerves go to your brain but still a stupid saying.

    Mazer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No Pain No Gain - tell that to someone suffering with intractable pain. People can be thoughtless shits

    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, the brain is in the head, and that's where we ultimately register and process the input of nerves telling us our arm is broken. but the arm is still friggin' broken, folks.

    Unnamed Hooman
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sometimes I want to respond with “Really? Because right now you’re being a pain in the neck.”

    Hotdogking
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To all people who say things like that; would you kindly jam a knife into your skull, then we can talk about it all being in your head

    Rob Steenvoorde
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So is a brain tumor you idiot! Why do people say stuff like this?

    PixxelDust
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "mEnTaL iLlNeSs Is AlL iN yOuR hEaD" Well yeah, my brain is in my head, dumb*ss.

    CindiLou Whoo
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If fear is an illusion of the mind, then pain must be an illusion of the body.

    Marco Conti
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where else would pain be? They are never signal to your brain.

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    #17

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group There's someone for everyone. You just need to believe and you will find love. No, there isn't and no, love isn't guaranteed.

    arcticshqip , Kevin Simpson Report

    King Joffrey
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perhaps there isn't someone for everyone but a lot of people have ridiculously high expectations. I have a permanently single friend who is not very handsome and will only date model-looking women (without much success). Gets offended when someone points it out to him and I know a lovely girl who fancies him but "he likes her but she's not his type looks-wise"...

    Jihana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am permanently single, and my expectations are not that high. He should be alive, I guess.

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    Lyone Fein
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not everyone will get the love they need in life.

    Lara Verne
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Love isn't guaranted even if you date someone.

    ZAPanda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually this promulgates the myth of serial monogamy, which is BS and leads to divorces in the end, because the 'perfect' person was not found, so you ditch them and try again. In the meantime, it is YOU who has the problem and hence you just have to keep trying. IMHO relationships are a matter of practice and growth. You learn from each one. There is no perfect relationship. They all come and go, are boring and exciting, become stale, etc. I think we should be less formalised about this, less disney-esque, and less romanticised. It's just oxytocin ffs.Same with friends; they come and go in contexts. Why is it that there must be this one perfect person who like jesus will come with salvation forever? It's nonsense. Apologies if that is cynical.

    Haunting Spirit
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is someone for everyone, but no one has time to travel the whole world to find that someone. A lot of people just don't meet that someone in their life.

    Dee Lee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sex isn't an entitlement. That's what incels are made of. Love is luck - at first - and then it's earned.

    ZAPanda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sex and love aren't the same at all, right?

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    Ines Olabarria-Smith
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There’s a study that says that there are five or six good matches for everyone of us. That doesn’t mean that you’ll find them. I think it’s better to be happy alone and then if it happens, good, if it doesn’t, good too.

    Ivana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I beg to differ, if you look hard enough, you will find the perfect dogo for you. Sure it might not be a strong and strapping golden retriever or a slick looking doberman you have always dreamed about, but you never know. One day you might just be checking in at a local shelter, not really looking for anything series, no commitments, and then you find them, that shaggy terrier you can see yourself settling down with and will always be there to keep your feet warm. Never give up, the right dog...or cat (no judgement) is out there for you.

    Sarah Kathrin Matsoukis
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    most people don't know themselves good enough, and/or don't accept their true nature to be able to know what kind of person is right for them, and even if, we are often not attracted to what would work for us.

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    #18

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group Someone told me I was “polluting” their space with “my sadness”. I asked them wtf they meant (because I wasn’t acting sad or even saying anything) and they said they could “feel” a “deep sadness” in me and that my presence itself was harmful. Like holy s**t talk about thought police

    Odeiminmukwa , Gareth Williams Report

    Jihana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once on a bus after visiting my terminally ill mother in the hospital a woman turned the baby stroller around so that the baby faced away from me and said to her friend "I don't want anyone to look at my child like this". Bitch, I just visited my dying mother, I am NOT sorry that my sadness offended you.

    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jihana, I'm sorry this happened to you. Hug.

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    snipergun
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then move your space away from my business. Yeah that's right, sadness is my business, gtfo. Just sayin'

    Tamra Stiffler
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol...this made me laugh! "Sadness is my business", gold!

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    Nessy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know it's not real but Winnie the Pooh, Piglet, Tigger and the rest did the crew never complained about Eeyore. They accepted him as he was and didn't make their friendship conditional on emotional being. I love that

    Douglas Mock
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a reason why face-slapping used to be considered a no-blood no-foul situation when confronted with an absolute lunatic invading your space with their wild-eyed, bat-s**t crazy demands. Someone would catch a looney talking twaddle like this and try to snap some sense back into them. They're a plague.

    Kat Hayden
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG so cant even have a sad moment

    ZAPanda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd nuke this person from high orbit.

    Pheebs
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My fav response to crap like that came from my bro - “you’re impeding the flow of my day.”

    Joanna Werman
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sorry that my thoughts are intruding on your life

    Thomas Sweda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You should have asked them if they could feel you about to kick them in the ass!

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    #19

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group “You’re really pretty for a chubby girl” Thaaaaaanx.

    [deleted] , Susanne Nilsson Report

    Terilee Bruyere
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You're really stupid for a smart looking person"

    RandomX123
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or: "You're really stupid for a specimen of a species supposedly known for its intelligence"

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    Zophra
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You're pretty rude for a person." (edited for the wrong "your.")

    Lord Mysticlaw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once once overheard someone saying about me "She's actual quite pretty... in an unusual way... if you look at her closely"

    Viviane
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They need to check either their eyes or their manners. Or both.

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    Kelli Lindsay
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “YoU hAVe SUcH A pRetTY fAcE”

    Dee Lee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You're really an asshole and a poor excuse for a human being."

    Pheebs
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Your face doesn’t match your body”

    SZ
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Respond with: "And I wish I could say the same about you, but you're just ugly inside and out... yikes!" And see if they have the brainpower to comprehend

    Biba Little
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or "for someone your age"! Grrrrr, just tell me I look good don't add "for your age" it's no longer compliment then

    Michele Black
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WTF!!* Are people even ALLOWED to say stuff like that these days?! I like Dee Lees retort

    Moya Satterwhite
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s funny you do look like stupid shite.

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    #20

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group “I just strive to be an honest person. I’m sorry if it hurt you”. Some s**t should just not be said ok?

    Cute_Mousse_7980 , Ben Stephenson Report

    Debbie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also on the internet. An opinion is ok, but you don't have to go out of your way to shout it out and hurt people by doing so. You can also have an opinion and not let the entire world know.

    Rachknits
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's just an excuse for someone to be an asshole

    Casey McAlister
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I'm sorry" followed by "if" is not an apology.

    Lord Mysticlaw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Compassion is a much more valuable character trait than honesty, IMHO.

    Soleil SanMao
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think there is just a time and place for both.

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    lara
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that is not an apology. When someone says "I am sorry IF you were offended..... or I am sorry that you were offended"......isn't an apology, it puts the onus on the person who was hurt. An apology is "I am sorry." Or "I apologize."

    Verena Abt
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being honest has become an excuse for being rude.

    Egni Navpmac
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Directness and honesty is great. Bringing it without tact, it is still rude and hurtful.

    Dee Lee
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I'm a strong person, and you're weak. I use my so-called 'honesty' to get away with pissing all over others. I'm not sorry at all."

    Thomas Sweda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Turn that damn lampshade around.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a BIG difference between honesty & insensitivity.

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    #21

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group Why can’t you just be happy?

    MmVvHh , Melinda Report

    Rebekah Tracy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why can’t you just acquire manners and a little decency?

    Robin DJW
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Manners and decency would be good. Too bad they can't also acquire intelligence.

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    Lord Mysticlaw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh yeah, my mom loves this one. It's called untreated major depression and it's not like I'm enjoying being this way, thanks.

    A B C
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mum told me I was too young for depression, lol. I just learned to hide it plenty good when she's around, as there's nothing she can help me with and I don't want to burden her as she'd blame herself for it.

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    Frankenfrog
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Because you're still breathing" is apparently rude to reply

    Jihana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why can't you just shut up?

    Hollysmom
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If only I had that answer I'd bottle it

    Koda Bear She/He/They
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s not like it’s an option, why would people choose to be miserable

    PixxelDust
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because I have a chemical imbalance. See how you feel if your brain decides to stop letting you be happy.

    Sarah Kathrin Matsoukis
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ohhhhhhhh I'd give them my list of struggles, and then either demand they help me fix every single one or never talk to me again

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    #22

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group Family is meant to hurt and forgive. I call bs.

    justsidle , Tamas Ring Report

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you think you were "meant to hurt" others, you need to grow up. Maliciously hurting others is sociopathic. I mean, I'm appalled if I accidentally hurt someone, and apologize immediately.

    WildHoneyPie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When we first spent time with my husband's family after we were married I was amazed at the lack of drama and just plain ill-will! It really shone a light on how toxic my family was.

    Shelli PL
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Family are the people who love and encourage, call you out or just sit in silence with you. Blood is not family, that’s genetics. For those of us w toxic family, having this revelation will free you, I promise.

    Demetri Bryant
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I moved 3000 miles away--and suddenly felt "lighter".

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    RUN. Don’t look back

    Freya the Wanderer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Precisely what I did years ago. And I've NEVER looked back or regretted my decision.

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    Lara Verne
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What they mean is: Your family is meant to hurt you, and you are supposed to forgive them.

    Sherri Mantooth Bagwell
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've cut ties with several toxic family members. I taught my children just because people are "family" you don't have to associate with that kind of crap. When my stepson died, my mother was being an attention whore. I told her I needed her love & support as we got ready to say goodbye to this child & asked for a hug. She flat out said, "No." I told her to get her $h1t and leave. I didn't talk to her for 6 months.

    Christina R
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why would you allow someone that mean and toxic to remain in your life at all?

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    laura lee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like "love means neener having to say you're sorry" why? Are you being so awesome that you have never upset anyone you loved before or are you saying i can say whatever and you just have to forgive me if you love me? BS

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    #23

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group “Happiness is a choice.” Shudder.

    CampVictorian , Marina Report

    Otter
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. *acting* happy is a choice.

    K. Lange
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this! Acting happy is mostly to make the people around you feel better - and to hide how you really feel.

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    Shane S
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Eh. Not a “choice” but I also think people look for happiness in outside things when it comes from within. And if you don’t feel it coming from within, yeah, it might be time to seek some help to talk about how to work to change that.

    Demetri Bryant
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A VERY COMMON comment that has been casually directed at me multiple times in memes. An AMAZING capacity for social darkness and lack of empathy.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not an easy choice. Happiness is some thing you have to work on every day. For some people it takes anti-depressents, for a lot of people it takes therapy. Often it takes daily mindfulness practice, and training ourselves not to blame or shame ourselves or others, and to appreciate the many positive things in our lives. It's not a one-and-done choice. It's a deliberately taking steps to heal yourself and train your mind and emotions choice. It's a choosing our response choice. It's a choice you get to make over and over again, every hour of every day. It doesn't mean bad things don't happen, or that you aren't going to have periods of pain, grief, and depression. It means working through these things and working at getting over bitterness and resentment and depression, and re-learning how to be happy all over again. Happiness is a discipline.

    ZAPanda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one I respond to with a simple "f-off". It's remarkably effective at removing that person from your life forever.

    DannyGirl
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aside from clinical depression it is a choice. You can choose to be happy with where your at and what you have or you can choose not to.

    KimB
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't fully disagree with this one for the reason that you can choose to search for things that can make you happy. Learning a new hobby or taking some classes to better your education/employment status , joining a group to find like minded people to add to your social circle, ect. If you so nothing and stay miserable then in a sense you are choosing to remain unhappy.

    Timbob
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My cousin did not choose depression!

    PixxelDust
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ALL THE TIME. Mum says "You're in charge of your feelings. Do something to cheer yourself up." IM HAVING A F*****G PANIC ATTACK AND YOU WANT ME TO "TAKE CONTROL" AND "LISTEN TO HAPPY MUSIC OR SOMETHING"!?

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    #24

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group “Life will be easier if you just accept that you’ll be doing most of the house work”…. Ex-boyfriends mom in response to a conversation about how ex-boyfriend did not help with chores.

    BabyGotCats , Daniel M. Hendricks Report

    NsG
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell me you're a sh1tty parent without saying you're a sh1tty parent.

    Zophra
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Life will be easier if you don't get involved with people with these sexist expectations....

    Janet C
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No wonder he sucked. She raised him like that.

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Life will be easier if your life partner does their share." There, fixed it!

    Soleil SanMao
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After my co-worker got married, her husband moved into her house. When the spring came and her lawn needed to be mowed, he refused to do it. He asked her, Who did it before I got here?" She said, My father. He said, Oh well.

    Dee Lee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only response I have to this is a whole lot of words that would get me kicked off.......

    Viviane
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, just censored. Example: "M**********r bitch ass, what kind of s**t crap advice is that about your son of a bitch son who should f*****g help with the housework?!"

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    Ivana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay so here is something that bothers me. Women still do the overwhelming bulk of the housework even though both people normally work the same hours. If that is how it is going to be then I need to send my husband off to learn how to do all the handyman stuff men have historically been responsible for doing. This does really bother me actually. How is it that women couldn't shake the house work but men aren't still expected to fix the roof, install new floors, rewire the house, and fix the toaster? Just saying.

    Thomas Sweda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not a chore. This is industrial maintenance.

    Sarah Kathrin Matsoukis
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    " just because you gave up and lived that way doesn't mean i will "

    Nizumi
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Life will be easier if you just accept that your son will be moving back in with you.

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    #25

    Something along the lines of “you have as many hours in the day as Beyoncé.” I just can’t even begin with how much I hate everything about that.

    mediumsizedbootyjudy Report

    YoyoSthlm
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have the same amount of hours as Hitler and look what he achieved!

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wrong, wrong, wrong. Time is money, therefore money is time. When you have money, you have a LOT more time than those of us who don't have money. Because we have no choice but to spend our time doing the things that moneyed people hire others to do.

    Jihana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, so do you, then why are you still here giving me shitty advice instead of sipping cocktails on a private island?

    Bexxxxx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You do have as many hours in the day as Beyoncé 💁‍♀️ You just don’t have her budget, personal trainer, make up artist, hair stylist, manager, chef, driver, cleaning staff, nanny, PR person, publicist, marketing team, songwriters, social media team, agents……

    King Joffrey
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You might have as many hours in a day as Beyonce but you most likely not have the money to buy all the help she gets.

    Elle Malkamäki
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugh, no! I f*****g don’t! She’s got a gazillion dollars! Probably an army of nannies, chefs, cleaners, assistants! F**k off…

    Hannah Kirtley
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yes but beyonce has many more ppl to do all her things in that same 24 hours

    Auntie Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Beyonce has a staff that does all the dirty work too.

    Hollysmom
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just not nearly as much money to pay p to do things for me

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    #26

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group "Having expectations on relationships only lead to disappoiment" So am I supposed to put up with whatever the f**k they want to treat me? Wtf.

    Waste-Win , Britney M Report

    Kanuli
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They meant well somewhat. Expectations can be bad, but that is meant totally different. Hard to explain for me in english, maybe someone could find better words? It’s like having the expectation to be loved coz you did something for someone. It’s the expectation you put on others to make you happy. That’s not how this works. You can only control yourself, your actions, your feelings (somewhat) But you can keep your expectations in check. Don’t confuse this with boundaries or rules, anticipation, or apathy. Sure you can expect your partner to be loyal, honest and so on, doesn‘t mean you can control them though. But you can control how much you trust them, and how far you wanna challenge this expectation or trust. Alot in life is about how WE handle it and less the actions put in front of us. We often confuse this actio/reactio as causality, neglect the control we ourselves have and put our life(happiness) in other people’s hands. That you might wanna prevent.

    Susie Elle
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Expectations that don't come forth from a prior agreement of some sorts are a road to disappointment - BUT when you're in a relationship with someone you have an impression of someone, an estimation if you will, and if that estimation turns out to be wrong, then that means you were wrong about someone and who they are. Estimations are valid because they're based on the other person's behaviour, and thus if the impression or estimation turns out wrong, then the other person is the reason for it.

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    StrawberryParfait
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is what women are pretty much told, yes. It's allllll a big lie, ladies. Make your life wonderful for yourself--get that education, that career, that money--nurture a good group of fabulous girlfriends, travel, have pets, have a baby, buy your own home. Then only invite a man into your life if he is going to enhance and enrich your life, fulfill your needs, and make things better for you, not worse. True happiness is something we can give ourselves, and a romantic relationship is not needed in order to have a rich and fulfilling life. Guard your personal power and happiness preciously.

    Sherri Mantooth Bagwell
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Non- realistic high expectations- roses, wine/dine, romance 24/7. Realistic expectations- Respect, love, 50/50 (or 100/100) partnership.

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. As long as expectations are realistic, it’s all good

    lara
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you expect other people to do things that make you happy, say things that make you happy, then you are looking for someone to read your mind. Ain't gonna happen.

    Ivana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I find this one is true (in a lot of cases but not all) because people have super high expectations of their partner yet rarely for themselves. People will complain endlessly about how little their partner does, list off all their faults, complain about them not giving them enough attention, etc. But I hear these complaints from both people in the relationship. Everyone overestimates what they contribute, justifies their own bad behavior or flaws, but completely ignores what their partner does do and hyper-focus on what they haven't. Being really honest with yourself about what you contribute and how you act is really important before you start imposing standards on your partner because I have a lot of couple friends and the worst relationships is when both people have high expectations of the other but do messed up s**t themselves.

    Thomas Sweda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn’t ever put up with somebody who made me get a tattoo, especially one as ugly as that!

    Jess Thompson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Expectations, no. Boundaries and standards, yes. It can be a confusing line to differentiate.

    Mimi M
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is like the person who commented above that 'everyone could find love if they would just lower their superficial expectations'. Gawd.

    Mimi M
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The couple pic is so cute.

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    #27

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group "If I can do it, you can do it."

    numbersrejectedbypi , bloomsberries Report

    Pezor Zass
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i never understood this one. if you can do it, then i can do it, because i am inherently better than you and so anything you can do is clearly within my superior grasp? is that what you're saying? or are you saying that everyone has exactly the same abilities?

    jessica r
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes people mean this in an unpretentious way: "I am not that special, I don't have special abilities, I think you are at least as capable as I am, probably more. So if I can do it, you sure can". Still most of the time a wrong assumption, and not a smart thing to say.

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    Zophra
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this depends on the context and what "it" actually is...

    Viviane
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup, customize for the person and situation and throw in a little honesty. For example, I told a discouraged colleague learning to code, "It was hard for me, too, when I started. I think you'll get good at this." They looked surprised, then relieved, and they gave me a big smile.

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    ZAPanda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one it depends on what it is. If a person has a disability it's not a kind thing to say. I say this when people praise my talents. I just tell them I just keep trying and it eventually comes right.

    Moya Satterwhite
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the girl next door speaks three languages, does it mean I can?

    Yeeters
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sometimes, under the right circumstances, say this to make my friends stop worrying about something in their future. "Oh even I managed to graduate, so I'm sure you will do just fine on your graduation, you're smarter than me!" Admittedly, it is a phrase that one has to think about before using, because you do not want it to sound like you're praising yourself and undermining the abilities of the other person.

    Ivana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Think this can be good for motivation, but not used universally. It is one thing for a pro-football player to come give an inspirational speech at a school and tell kids, "If I can live my dream then so can you" vs. a friend being like "I got a great job because I worked hard and if I can do it then so can you." A lot of our lives are not determined by us, but rather by circumstance and environment. So trying to get people to try is one thing, using your success as criticism against someone who is struggling is just an insult.

    Thomas Sweda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, but you’re twice the size.

    PixxelDust
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kid you not, my math teacher with 7+ years of experience told this to me. I am in 9th grade.

    Rabbit Lord
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, the typical manager phrase...

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    #28

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group 'You're not like the other girls'

    plateauh*e , Funk Dooby Report

    Frankenfrog
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "True. I'm a homicidal maniac."

    Viviane
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "So I Married an Axe Murderer", the remake.

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    Yvonne Dauwalder Balsiger
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'You're not like the other girls' just means "I despise women in general, but you are pretty enough and I want to get into your pants. After I've gotten there you are just like the other girls." Huge red flag. These dudes also have a string of "crazy ex-girlfriends", if they get any at all.

    Kanuli
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Usually a good sample size would consist of a few thousand people, only regarding the country he lives in, wordwide probably more. So for him to claim one is different he would have needed at least a couple thousand girls before to be sure about that.

    v
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or he lives in a small town with only a few girls in his peer group and she definitely was not like the other girls?

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    qwerty
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "True. My DNA differs by 0.1% or something."

    Marika Miettinen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The whole "I'm not like other girls" is just a way of saying that you think that you're better than other women and it's disgusting. I wish that that saying and mentality would just die off.

    StrawberryParfait
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah. So you hate women as a whole then, and are trying to make me feel special while shitting on my sisters. F**k outta here.

    Zelda Sterling
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They ARE not like other girls. They are Thelma and Louise.

    Sarcasm Queen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate this one. What's wrong with the other girls??

    Grayson Wrigley
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugg. I HATE this one. To condense what was turning into a paragraphs long rant: this says to me that said person has never actually had a conversation with any other 'girl' and has a negative opinion of women in general.

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    #29

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group "You either trust me or you don't. Trust doesn't get built" - said my disgusting ex earlier in our relationship

    pierrots , klndonnelly Report

    King Joffrey
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trust takes ages to build, actually, and seconds to get destroyed.

    Pat Head
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gained by the ounce, lost by the pound.

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    Ashley Schriber
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty strong sign you shouldn't trust him, trying to guilt you like that into acting like you trust him instead of showing you he is trustworthy. What a mindfuck.

    Ivana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with this, I went into my relationship trusting my husband. He never had to build it or earn it, he just had to keep it and he did. Think this is dependent on the couple and the relationship. It is really hard to form or maintain a relationship when someone doesn't trust you. I have never read my husband's texts, emails, or question him, but he has never put me in that situation where I felt I needed to. I think you can start with trust initially but I also think that it is very dependent on the people in the relationship.

    StrawberryParfait
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Entitled and sociopathic creep. No wonder he's an ex.

    Moisturized Elbows
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I offended someone once, two people actually for saying I didn't trust them yet.We had just started talking....

    Hollysmom
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the person that will tell you you are insecure when you walk in on them and someone else having sex in your bed.

    Eb
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Red flag right there.

    KimB
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These are the words of a toxic manipulator

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    #30

    A YouTube video opened my eyes on how body positivity can be toxic. I've realized I'm just body-neutral. I don't think my body is beautiful and I don't have to! I'm more than my body and I'm at peace with it even if I wish some things were different. They don't affect my self-esteem.

    Beth-BR Report

    Otter
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm okay with the body positivity thing. If it helps people let go of self-hatred, it's worth some annoyance.

    YoyoSthlm
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, seeing pics of chubby girls (I'm one of them) looking great actually helps me being more confident and makes me think that I could actually wear that dress I've been afraid to wear for years

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    Ashley Schriber
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I never understood why not hating your body meant one must have all these lovey, gushy feelings for it. I'm all for accepting, appreciating, and respecting your body; I prefer those words to communicate what I think they're trying to communicate.

    Dee Lee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Acceptance over appearance any day. Self-esteem dependent upon weight, age, facial symmetry - basically, how others see you - is unstable and superficial. WHO you are matters more than HOW you look!

    Kanuli
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s subjective anyway. There is no beautiful or ugly. Just your own perception. If you like or don’t like what you see in the mirror, nothing but you can change that. Accepting it, or trying to change it is also totally on you. Nothing wrong with liking, disliking, accepting thy own looks imo. I hate my looks, but I love how my wife likes it. I don’t care enough about my looks though to be depressed about it. Age or accident, disease or sickness can change it anytime anyway.

    Thomas Sweda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But, about that hair on your ears….

    Jo Davies
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have Crohns, which leaves me with a sink body and an ever changing tummy (from almost flat to 6 months pregnant). I have had to learn to live with the "when are you expecting" to the "wow, you have lost weight" as much as learning to try and control my attacks. Please stop adding to my stress by my shape. Stress increases my attacks!

    Lara Verne
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's about wrong interpretation of body positivity. It says that functionality and health of our bodies is more important than just physical appearance. It does not say that morbid obesity is good.

    Demetri Bryant
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is so EASY (and socially encouraged) to lie to yourself.

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    #31

    "well, everyone has a little bit of depression here and there." ok and that's supposed to make me feel better or something?

    Blue_ish Report

    Foxxy (The Original)
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Having depression and being a bit depressed as in temporarily down/upset, is not the same

    Lord Mysticlaw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A little louder for the ones in the back, please. 🙌

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    ZAPanda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Everyone has a little cancer here and there"... right. Sadness is one thing, clinical depression is another.

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being depressed after a funeral, after a loss, after a bad stretch: OK. Depression as a clinical illness is every freaking day. Every. Freaking. Day.

    Kim Contreras
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't have a little depression! I have suicidal depression. Even after having been told this so many times and then because of that little bit of depression that everyone has, I did make every effort to die, but unfortunately recovered I was still told people who have enough faith don't end up with depression. What were they saying to me?? If not for the fact that medications have been discovered/created I would have kept trying until I made it.

    My O My
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel you! Hooray to the medicatioms keeping us alive

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    Jess Thompson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That person has never been depressed OMG LOL forgive them, they’re just super ignorant and are regurgitating some emotive s**t they heard in an attempt to make you feel less alone. They’re lucky they don’t know.

    Hannah Kirtley
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    having a bad (depressing day) is not the same as being clinically depressed

    Gerard Neaux
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, a "little bit here and there"

    Demetri Bryant
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another "marker moment" for karma to come pay a visit.

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    #32

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group "You are only hurting yourself when you are crying look I'm unaffected."

    miyavmisa , Aubrey Arcangel Report

    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish I could give this young woman a hug.

    ZAPanda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    judging from the army person in the background I'm guessing she's a military widow now.

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    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry for being a human being. You should try it some time.

    Goth mouse (they/them)
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a horrible person! Most people feel bad when they see someone else really upset its called empathy, even tiny animals like voles show it

    September Meadows
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't cry, myself. I really wish that I could however I'm not an emotional person in any way. I completely understand and accept that crying is a natural and necessary realese for many people though. When I was a manager I had to sit down with employees for reviews and terminations and many of those employees would burst into tears, several apologizing for doing so. I would tell them, "Not at all, no need to apologize, take your time." Allowing them to get through it and collect themselves they often seemed stronger and more resolute after their crying. It always made it easier for them to accept what was happening and to accept options I brought to the table to help them with their next step. Crying isn't a weakness that I have seen. The only emotional weakness that I can see is FTFO in a climatic situation.

    Auntie Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't cry when sad. I cry if I get angry. But I do care and try to be the strong person that pours the tea, passes the cake and gives the best back rub I can do. You grieve and cry. I will watch over you.

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    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like the words a narcissist would say

    Viviane
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read a post from someone incapable of feeling most emotions. Even they had the decency to say, "That's sad" to colleagues when a team member died suddenly. They felt nothing, but they understood that it was not the norm.

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    Egni Navpmac
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A good cry can be healing. Those who are unaffected keep a lot of s**t inside or just don't care...

    Susan Atkinson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hold your babies and your head up. Walk away from this toxic POS. Go to the nearest women's advocates for a place for you and your babies. It's amazing how strong you can be for you and your kids. It's hard but oh so worth it. 💗

    Zelda Sterling
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perhaps it is something to do with her husband being deployed. She is obviously on base. Maybe she is overwhelmed with the weight of having small children and being without her partner. I just want to reach thru the screen and say "here, hand me one, mama, and let's go sit down."

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    Moya Satterwhite
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe we could babysit while she goes out to shop.

    Joanna Werman
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor woman. Someone needs to reach out to her. Someone needs to reach out to all of us. I think we're tired of doing the reaching

    Thomas Sweda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did you miss some punctuation somewhere?

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    #33

    "Don't waste your time worrying about it." Sorry but I can't help it

    lnthefall Report

    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's true but still shitty advice.

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Life got easier for me when I adopted the rule, "Will this still worry me in a year?" If the answer is yes, then I'm worrying all I want. If the answer is no? OK, will it worry me/bother me this much in a month? A week? A day? If I get to even "no" after a week, then I feel less overwhelmed. Which may be shitty advice, but to each their own.

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    Lord Mysticlaw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah sorry, my "switch off worry" button is broken. Always has been. Factory defect.

    Viviane
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like anxiety. I've accepted that mine won't be cured, but management strategies have reduced the impact on my life. See under Caro Caro's comment for ideas. Some practice may be required.

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    Phil Vaive
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's crappy advice because there is no follow up. No "Here's how to do this". Some people are natural worriers (be it anxiety, OCD, ptsd, or a host of other reasons) and we don't just come into the world with all these built in programs on how to deal with stuff. So what they're really saying when they say this is "I don't want to help you, but I also don't want to listen to you. Please stop talking about it near me".

    snipergun
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You still shouldn't waste your time with it.

    Jess Thompson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Basically in my experience this means “I don’t wanna hear you talk about it anymore”. Find someone who understands that you just want someone to listen. They don’t care.

    The swede.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have generalized anxiety disorder and I worrying about EVERYTHING, stuff from the past, future and all in between and I just HATE(!!!) this saying. Like, god damn I don't worrying because it's funny - I AM FUDGEING SICK YOU STUPID MF!

    Mazer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Worrying about things keeps the drama alive, some people get addicted to that scenario.

    lara
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't worry about it. There are things I can do, I do them. Worrying is a waste of my time and energy that is better spent on doing things. The only thing I can change is me. Thinking I can change other people is arrogant.

    ejfs
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother says this all the time.

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    #34

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group Fake it till you make it. Ugh. The f**king worst.

    PrincessConsuela02 , Shannon Report

    September Meadows
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the most dumb ideas I've ever heard. I got group jumped by fellow managers when I told the lead manager I didn't know how to accomplish a certain task. They all gasped and looked at me like I'd took a dump on the breakfast table. One of the managers leans over and says you're not supposed to say that you don't know, you fake it till you make it. I went off on her and the rest of them. I was in the Marine Corps. That idea would get you killed or your team killed! It is best that you know each others strengths and weaknesses so that you can plan accordingly. If someone doesn't know how to do something that they should or need to in the circumstances then you provide the tools and education to raise them up, thus elevating the whole group. You don't leave them floundering in the dark, fearful of f'ing up because they're left to their own devices.

    Zophra
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is far too sensible! Nice comment!

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    Bobby
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It does work, but its not universally true. In the right circumstance this can be helpful, kind of like practice makes perfect, but shouldn't apply to anything where you faking it hurts yourself or another.

    Guy MacGregor
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Built my career on it. Works great, but not applicable to every fields. Just got lucky

    Viviane
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can work for interior decoration, won't work for brain surgery.

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    Jess Thompson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wouldn’t recommend this with sex. It feels like you’re harassing yourself a little.

    WhatEvenIsLife
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This has actually worked well for me. I'm a huge introvert with social anxiety. I had the hardest time talking to people, in front of groups, etc. So I faked looking and acting confident. Eventually, it actually got easier for me and I began to feel more confident. I don't recommend this advice in every situation, but it's not completely useless.

    your socially awkward cousin
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    there's a song called Brown Eyes, Brown Hair by Caleb Hearn, and in the chorus it says "sometimes its alright to fake it till you make, just don't let that be your savin'" its a really good song and it touches on how tis alright to not be happy all the time

    KimB
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every single medical student does exactly this! No one is born with experience. It's learned. And you can't make a patient comfortable telling them it's your first time doing something! You act confident and follow your training.

    Ivana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yea, I have never found this to be true. I hear it a lot when people are talking about work and that is a terrible idea. If you feel like you have to fake it at work then you probably need to talk to a supervisor and ask for additional training because the stress of being lost at work is overwhelming. As for faking that you are happy or faking through a relationship, you are more just dulling yourself emotionally until you go through life like a robot until it becomes routine.

    Mona
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always hated when people said this.

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    #35

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group "Its not your situation. Its about how you react to it." - my bff And how am I suppose to react to office sexual harassment of a senior management without the risk of losing my job and not be able to pay my rent, dare I may say???? There's also the risk of ruining connections and forever barring me from the industry completely. I was venting to my friend. All I needed was to vent and cry. I know the consequences involved with even a tiny move against this person who has such great influence my chosen feild. No, I cant just "react" my heart out, dear.

    lavenderpug , Aaron Stidwell Report

    Kanuli
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ehm. No. There is stuff you can do. Seek help, collect evidence. Fight back. You often have choices, either you aren’t aware of them, or afraid, or afraid of consequences. There she should have helped you. I learned being silent is most often the wrong choice.

    Tee Witt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends so much on the situation and who is there to support you, or not.

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    Mazer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister was being harassed by her boss. I had an idea. Went to an attorneys office and got some business cards, we put one on her desk…that was the end of his bullshit

    K. Lange
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Its not your situation. Its about how you react/feel to it." That sentence was told to me by therapist. It actually helps me in a lot of situations - but they are far away from what he/she as to deal with!

    Viviane
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I word it differently because of my personal experience: "Sometimes you have to act in spite of your feelings, not because of them." I gave advice to someone about a problem with a colleague and included the emotions they might get: "My heart beats faster when I do this, but it goes away quickly. So I ignore it and solve the problem."

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    Kelli Lindsay
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “The only thing you can control is how you react to a situation” is some solid advice IMO.

    Eucritta
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. It took me a long time to learn, too. But there are times to say it, and times not.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can control my reactions and actions. That means they can control *theirs*.

    BorPand8
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also sounds like the friend is fed up with her endlessly complaining and never doing anything.

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    #36

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group The HR person at my old job told me to "lean in more" when I requested a meeting about sexism in the office.

    ResearchLogical2036 , Alan Cleaver Report

    September Meadows
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HR isn't there for the employees, they are there for the employer and for their own job security.

    Mike Loux
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    BOOM. This. They're more Resource than Human.

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    King Joffrey
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow... Although, in my experience, HR people will first and foremost think of how to make this go away so that the company is not liable/implicated.

    Auntriarch
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I leaned in more they'd just get a better view of my cleavage. Oh.

    Hollysmom
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did the really mean "lay down more" or "bend over more"? I can't believe anyone, especially not an HR rep would say something like that these days.

    Sue Hazlewood
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the hell does that even mean?

    Bexxxxx
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Leans in closer* “Like I said, SEXISM IN THE OFFICE….”

    Ivana
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wrote an entire paper in grad school about how Lean In by Sheryl Sandberg was Neo-Liberal sexism.

    Ella Blackwood
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ever since I started working in a corporation after college, I have always wondered why I just instinctively mistrusted everyone in HR. Not that I was doing anything wrong, but they all just seemed really sneaky and phony to me. I since found out that I had a very good reason to feel that way and that I wasn't just abnormally paranoid.

    Deb Dedon
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My idea of 'leaning in' would be to 'lean in' across the table so I can grab the a**hole by his tie.

    Agnes Jekyll
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Implying sexism is your fault. or that you can overcome it with elbow grease. And a giant F U to that noise.

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    #37

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group Not sure if this fits, but "Just keep eating. Don't worry about how much. Eat until you're happy" Eat until I'm happy? I prefer to separate food from emotion, thank you. I've seen people approach the brink of passing aaway by tying food and emotion. No thank you. Not for me.

    smashmyburger , Eric.Ray Report

    K. Lange
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    following that advice is the path to a eating disorder.

    Helen Haley
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think anyone actually says this.

    Phil Vaive
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have never heard anyone give this advice...is it common???

    Erin E
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who would tell someone “just keep eating/eat until you’re happy?” Huh?

    Jess Thompson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This might be a different angle, but I don’t think this person who gives that advice enjoys food anymore. Just putting stuff in your belly until the pain is gone - sounds like an eating disorder where emotional emptiness is mistaken for hunger (suuuuper common). Food should be respected, tasted and, if you have the presence, savoured.

    Mike Loux
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty sure you're gonna get indigestion before you get happy.

    Raena Celis
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live where sometimes weight gain is associated with a person being happy. "ugh, I gotta do something about this weight that I gained." "Oh, it just means that you're happy." wtf?

    Hannah Kirtley
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if i ate until i was happy i would throw up and/or be 500 lbs

    GlitterQueen541
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad died from a food addiction...and he was still depressed. This is sh*t advice.

    Kim Contreras
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also "you are choosing to be overweight!" So many things affect your body including physical and emotional that NOBODY needs to be so stupid/callous/ignorant to make such statements!

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    #38

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group "the act of smiling makes you feel better, so even if you're feeling really bad you can start smiling and eventually your feelings will catch up" No thank you

    greenandleafy , Katy Warner Report

    Nikki Sevven
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's actually science behind this one. Studies conclusively proved that even a fake smile causes your brain to produce dopamine, serotonin, and endorphins. I've used this to help me when I'm depressed, by seeking out things that will make me smile and laugh. And it does help me manage my depression.

    Bexxxxx
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you! It does help a little and is a good tool to use when trying to manage depression in public or the work space. Not a cure-all at all, but definitely not garbage advice!

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    Debbie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It does help when you're down or grumpy. (This is not about mental illness.) Often when I was grumpy, down, I ended up reasonably happy, because I greeted everyone friendly, even if I didn't feel like it. It's because you get friendliness in return I guess. A warm smile / greeting can do wonders. And maybe even solo smiling helps...as it focuses on the silly cat and not the mess it made which you have to clean up. Or the silly dog that goes wild when you ask him to search for the ball (which you didn't bring).

    Dee Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It actually can help a mood, but clinical depression is a whole nuther thing....

    ZAPanda
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is true if you're doing behaviourism and want the audience/other people to respond positively to you. it's a different version of "fake it till you make it." But not much use if you are clinically depressed.

    Frankenfrog
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And when I DO smile it's all "oh god, why does your face look like that??!"

    Demetri Bryant
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah...the song "Smile" was a big hit for Billie Holiday, who died at 44, a drug-addict and alcoholic... (rolling eyes) Who is zooming who?

    Ivana
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are certain things you can do to make yourself feel better or calmer. If I am in crisis I eat super hot peppers. I love spicy food. So after a miserable day at work I will eat a ton of hot pepper or even straight up drink my Carolina Reaper sauce. Spicy food causes your brain to produce and release serotonin, I think it is related to the pain and your brain trying to relieve the pain with endorphins. Either way it is like a shot and helps calm me down. Not that I stop being bi-polar, but it can help level me out in the moment. Smiling is kind of the same. Not a cure, but something to give a shot to calm you down in the moment.

    Jess Thompson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sometimes make myself laugh hysterically in the mirror. It’s not fake, i know it’s not a genuine laugh, but the act of these “happiness byproduct behaviours” release serotonin and other endorphins to raise my mood just enough to allow me to deal with whatever emotional turmoil I’m going through. Sometimes it helps. Sometimes not.

    Billy Haake
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Smiles are catching. IMHO, I think most people are born to respond automatically to a smile, even from a stranger on the street. I found myself smiling at the young woman in the above photo.

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    #39

    When I vent I don't enjoy a certain aspect of my jobs to a friend/colleague: "but it won't be any different in a different field" Well thank you that is very relevant

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    Lord Mysticlaw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've learned that a LOT of people don't understand the difference between when someone needs a shoulder to cry on or an ear to vent to, and when they actually want advice or help. If you're not sure, ask. It's not helpful if you give shitty advice to someone who just needed to vent or maybe needed a "don't worry, you'll be OK" or whatever.

    KatKaleen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I go a different route, and I think it's more sensible. Either I tell people beforehand that I just need to vent, or I stop them when they start offering solutions and tell them then that I just want to vent. People can't read minds. The people supposedly giving unsolicited advice can't read your friggin mind, so tell them right away and don't blame them for thinking solution-oriented. They are honestly trying to help you.

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    Casey McAlister
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not necessarily true. I heard that a lot when I was leaving my first job, but none of my jobs after that sucked as much as the first one.

    Soleil SanMao
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone told me, "Well, someone out there would love to have your job." I guess in a nutshell, people really don't want to hear about your challenges.

    The Starsong Princess
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your friend is obviously tired of listening to you. That may because she isn’t empathetic or because you constantly complain. Some people think that changing jobs or fields will fix their work problems. That doesn’t really work if they are the problem. I’ve known people like that.

    #40

    40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group It’s not you it’s me

    Outrageous_Length639 , Georgie Pauwels Report

    Libstak
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually that's true. If they have issues being with you or whatever, that really is theirs to deal with.

    Jess Thompson
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, but it must be remembered that this doesn’t mean allowing all types of treatment towards you and vice versa. Once you make the aware of how you’re upset, unhappy, etc., it’s also now that person’s responsibility to respond (or not, but that’s also a response).

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    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're giving me the "it's not you, it's me" routine? I invented "it's not you, it's me!" Nobody tells me it's them, not me! If it's anybody, it's me. - George Costanza

    Dee Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are right, and you just dodged a bullet!

    Mystery Egg
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was a teen struggling with extra weight, I looked to my parents for help in how to do it - it was the 90's so no internet to do my own research. The response was 'but you are beautiful the way you are'. I get that they were trying to make me feel better about myself, but it didn't help me lose weight.

    KimB
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a teen in the 90's as well (and got a little chubby when puberty hit), and because my parents were heavy smokers they were not exercisers. Ironically it was my physical education teacher that helped me...he even pointed out a few books I could read in the library about the benefits of cardiovascular exercise . As much as I hated that class (our school schedule did not allow enough time for us to shower just change clothes) I'm grateful for it as an adult because that helped guide me to my career as a cardiovascular technologist :)

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    Queen Amethyst
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or "I'm not good enough for you" why not try harder then?!

    DannyGirl
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because I don’t want to change myself for you … 🤷‍♀️

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    ZAPanda
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least they have some self-perception.

    Lieke Akkerman
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've used this one too to be honest. I just don't feel like kicking someone when they're already on the ground. Just because their personality traits don't fit well with mine doesn't mean that their traits are wrong.

    Raena Celis
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I admit that I've used this lame attempt back in the day, and the truth is, it was always them.

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