40 Examples Of Toxic Positivity, As Called Out By Women In This Online Group
Very often, when people open up about their problems or negative thoughts they have, the first instinct of the other person is to cheer them up, try to reassure them that everything will work out and that there are worse things that could happen. People who try to make the troubled person feel better don’t usually mean any harm, but they actually are forcing positivity on a person that can’t see the lighter side of the situation at that moment.
Dismissing negative emotions, trying to forcefully see something good in a terrible situation and trying to find false reassurances is called toxic positivity. It often becomes a way to respond to a distressful situation when you don’t know what else to say. But feeling the emotions that you’re having is important, regardless of whether they are positive or negative.
People in the subreddit AskWomen understand that and share some phrases they would consider to fall under the toxic positivity category and would like to stop hearing. What they would like to hear instead is compassion and well wishes.
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“It all made you stronger”
It rubs me the wrong way because it invalidates all the bulls**t I had to claw through. I made me stronger. Trauma made me weak, tired, and a repulsive version of myself. If I allowed that to control my life’s outcomes I would be in a dark ass place.
I put in the work. I made me strong. All that destroyed me.
Exactly. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" really means "You're alive, but crippled, in pain, and trying to survive, and nobody gives a rat's ass about you".
Load More Replies...Anytime someone says this what they're really saying is "You're being too negative so I'm going to make you think your problem is a positive thing and then I won't have to hear about it anymore."
Dad left mom w/6 minors, I was 8 and cooking for the family. My single mother made us independent through hard work and kindness. Married, had 2 sons 18 months apart. Oldest became paraplegic at 18 from a cold. My 2nd died from pneumonia at 26. I'm fighting my 2nd fight against breast cancer. Life made me strong 💪
EXACTLY. So much of humanity seems QUICK to "make light work" of someone else's life experiences while crying loudly (or faux-stoicly) about their own.
The one I hate the most, no matter what is said... "wait until you're my age". Especially when it comes to being in pain. It's like they're telling you that until you're "as old as they are" you're not allowed to feel any pain. I cannot tell you how much this angers me. I literally fell down a flight of stairs, could barely stand up, and my co-workers were like "at least you're young". Firstly, 35 is not exactly young. Second, f**k off.
Not to mention, usually said to someone who is just needing to vent/share, NOT take toxic positive advice/suggestions
I know this is a random side tangent, but this is exactly what bugged the s**t out of me about Sansa telling The Hound that all the s**t she went through made her who she was, completely invalidating all of her character growth, intelligence, strength, etc.
My grandma telling me that I have to put up with nasty family members “because they’re FaaaMilYYYYYyyyy”.
Gtfo, they are bad people and I’m not going to let them poison my life because we’re related.
For the longest time for me it was; "Stop being gay when grandma's over! it upsets her!" Like wow! Where is the off switch?
Hey Grandma, stop being homophobic when I'm here.
Load More Replies...You can't choose your biological family, but you CAN choose whether or not they a part in your life (at least once you are old enough to have those choices, minors are kind of stuck, especially if they have parents who don't give a crud).
The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb!
Load More Replies...I told my mom--why do I have to unconditionally love someone who I wouldn't even go for coffee with if we weren't related? (she did not like it)
You mean the same family that knew we were being abused and did nothing? *THAT* family?
My mom telling me this about my abusive younger brother, even as she cuts all ties and refuses to ever talk again to her abusive younger brother 🤨
I've cut several family member out of my life, one being my youngest brother. My mother always wanted us to stick together & she truly believed in "family", but I refuse to have anything to do with a family member who won't help when desperately needed. Especially when I was the one who was ALWAYS there to help when his raving alcoholic ex-wife was trashing his life!
Often comes with "I did it because I love you, care about you". Doesn't mean it didn't hurt, was wrong and traumatized me.
"You don't need medication for depression or anxiety. You just need to go outside and smile more!"
Ooh Caro, you got piss through the BP censor! Ooh, so did I - obvs not a swear word then....my kids were right :-D
Load More Replies...Or possibly toxic denial. In hindsight I had pretty severe depression as a child and teenager, but I was never allowed to be anything other than cheerful and outwardly excessively positive, else I was accused of being an ungrateful brat just wanting attention. I internalised it pretty effectively, that depression was not real and people were just complaining about things or being negative. It can take a while to accept that you've been gaslighted into believing something so harmful.
Load More Replies...Yep, some people think you’re choosing to have clinical depression and suicidal thoughts and ‘just need to smile more.’ 😞 smiling does not cure a serious illness.
And having the proverbial "men who tell random women on the street to smile" isn't terribly helpful.
Load More Replies...I had a pharmacist say this to me when picking up my meds. I was so stunned I didn't say anything. Was telling my mom about it and she goes to the same pharmacy. She apparently had a word with her supervisor. I was like 42 at the time. Mama bear until the end. She actually told someone last week that her "baby just turned 46."
Your mother sounds great! One of my sisters was "my kid sister" until a bit after 40. :D
Load More Replies...Mental illness is not a personal failure or a character defect. It is real, just like any other disorder. You can't just pretend it away, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, or rely on 'faith healing' to make it better. It takes work - damned hard work - and sometimes meds. No shame in any of it!
Yes!!! Without their stabilizing I would not be able to function in life, and would have surely have successfully given up on the whole effort. Find a doctor that treats the WHOLE patient, not just a dispenser of drugs. And then realize it will take time and quite a bit of trial and error before you and your doctor (yes, you are a very important part of the team!) get the best possible med or combination of meds to get you back on track.
Load More Replies...Or my very favorite: if you're depressed you are either too focused on yourself or that you need to have more faith.
Yep go outside, put on a fake smile, walk around then go back inside and cry. Stupid thing to tell a depressed person On meds.
An then there's those who tell you to pray more.... are you praying away your diabetes? I think not.
Gotta tell ya, I'm Christian, I pray all the time, every night, before meals, etc... It does not make you immune to mental illness. Still needed to go to my doctor and get medication. And for me, the meds are what worked, it's a lot easier to be happy with them. Any Christian who's tellin ya to pray your mental illness away is being rude and they're wrong.
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When my husband passed away unexpectedly at age 50 (together 32 years) more than one person said to me " my divorce was like a death too". Nope, not even close.
How anyone can compare divorce to death is beyond me. I looked this up on reddit and it was a few years ago, she is happily remarried.
Years ago I had an attempt on my life by someone I knew. The counsellor at my uni likened it to a "disagreement" between her and her husband where he wanted to move somewhere and she didn't. People make pretty bizarre comparisons.
Load More Replies...It can cause you as much grief, but it is a very different kind of grief.
When you get divorced that person is still there, you just aren't married to them anymore. When a spouse dies, it's like a part of you is gone.
I understand that she's probably right. But she can't really judge unless she's been through both. And, even then, it probably depends on a lot of factors that vary from person to person. For instance, the death of a person who you were forced to stay with is probably easier than getting divorced from a person you still love.
I'm so sorry that your life partner died. This is your loss, and it's as personal and unique as you, him, the relationship you shared.
When my dad passed away, a lot of people told me 'he's in a better place.'
I know it's super common to say, but we're not religious in the slightest and we wanted him here, for f**k's sake.
I always found that insulting after my father died. I get people don't know what to say when one dies, but this was the biggest slap in the face for me.
I prefer a straightforward' this just really sucks, do you need anything?'
Load More Replies...I always hated “you be strong for [other grieving person]” like your grief doesn’t matter. When my stepdad died, I basically got told to be glad it wasn’t my husband, stop my crying, and to be strong for my mom. F-off. He was my dad for 28 years.
F that, 28 years is a long time. Being your dad is worth more than enough. I hope you were able to grieve your way.
Load More Replies...I appreciate when people try to help, even if they have no idea how to do so. And if it's not helpful to them, I try to resist correcting them when they're off target.
Load More Replies...I'm not religious so to me, when someone dies they are gone. Not to heaven, not to hell. No afterlife or haunting etc. Just gone.
If they've been ill, like having cancer, I prefer to say: at least they are not in pain anymore. Or something along those lines. Their suffering has ended, and that might be a small comfort. And it says nothing about "afterlife". But if there was no illness or pain beforehand... "I'm so sorry for your loss".
I hate it too because I'm not religious and d far as I'm concerned they're not in a better place, they're just gone. But I get that this is something people say because they don't know what to say, and also I get that people who are religious really do believe that and I try to respect that. Just because I'm not religious it doesn't give me the right to tell religious people they're wrong.
"You'll change your mind" and every sentences I can hear when I tell people I don't want kids. That toxic mentality of women have to be mothers. I've realized at 12yo that I never want kids. 13 later, I still haven't changed my mind. My husband also doesn't want kids so at least we're on the same page.
Just reply: " you'll soon regret yours"... Oh you think that that's inappropriate?
I sometimes do. Though I wouldn't want to miss them for all the money in the world. But somedays, I dream of how my life could have been without kids. And it's unimaginable actually.
Load More Replies..."You'll change your mind" the amount of doctors who said that to me when I was fighting to get sterilized was insane. Not only do I not want kids, but I have a medical condition where pregnancy could kill me and I was still told " you'll change your mind". It took years of fighting and many many doctors visits before I finally found a doctor who listened to me. The fact that so many people see motherhood as the" end all be all" for women is absolutely disgusting. People who say they don't want kids, know their own minds and telling them that they in fact, do not know what they want, is just a d*ck move.
As an old woman with no kids, it ain't that simple, bits u regret, bits u don't. Being old is being vulnerable and u need support, friends are rarely the kind of friend that gives that. Some mothers are bad and their kids walk, some are good and their kids are there for them.
“Give me grandchild even though getting pregnant will be signing your own death warrant.” No thanks.
I had an aunt and uncle who did not want kids. They used their money to travel all over the world. They had a great life.
Yep, I knew at about 12 it wasn't for me. I'm 43 now and I have zero regrets and have never changed my mind.
In their defense, some people do change their minds. But telling someone they are wrong about their feelings is just rude.
And people regret having children as well. Should we run around saying this to them as well. And declared childfree people who ends up with kids were never child free in the first place or they would have made sure it didn't happen.
Load More Replies...try it from doctors who tell you this when you're suffering endometriosis and can't have kids anyway but god forbid a woman get a hysterectomy .....
I got the, "your period pains will get better after kids" yeah no. My pain management wont be relying on making more humans, give me the drugs against both.
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Everything happens for a reason or God never gives you more than you can handle.
If God supposedly never gives you more than you can handle, then please explain all the suicides, addicts, people with depression and other mental health issues etc.
Well according to what I was taught in church, they didn;t have enough faith in god. (heavy eye roll)
Load More Replies...This is a phase that should rarely be said to another person, and I say that as a person of faith. Sometimes the reasons are painful. Sometimes you will be pushed too hard. When you're in that much pain, you need to know that the people around you are there to support you and accept whatever feelings you're feeling. Unless you ask for counsel or speak to a religious mentor, this should not come up. Unsolicited, it can cause more interpersonal damage, emotional pain and spiritual disconnection than not giving that advice. If/when you're ready to look at the situation from that perspective, it can be a valuable tool. Until then, it's unhelpful. That's leaving aside the theology and philosophy behind the statement for now. I'm not here to debate the truth of it, just to share my agreement.
Oh so it was bc God wanted me to become an alcoholic, ruin my life and end up homeless. I'm so relieved that none of that was due to my terrible decision making!
If I heard either one of these "comfort" phrases one more time after the death of my son I was going to hurt someone. Worst things to say.
There is no god. Stop it. Stop thanking your god for the s**t you did, you did that! Own it! Good or bad. That's all on you.
i grown in a christian family and constantly heard this. And now I hate this. Are you telling me if I am abducted, raped, that person kill me and made my family suffer is because is part of God plans and he permitted this because as a family we can handle this?
That is non sense God regularly gives you more than you can handle. Check the source
Just don't think about it.
Thanks mom, sure my constant headaches will go away when I just don't think about it! A 12 year old shouldn't have headaches non-stop in the first place but whatever.
I have had migraines my entire life. Once a doctor told me they were simply, "all in my head". Yes, yes they were. And that day it was right in my left temple. Some doctors are complete idiots with no empathy.
I have an MD, and I have epilepsy. Early on, a doc told me it was all in my head as in "imagined", and I said, "of course it's all in my head, it's epilepsy, not a broken finger!"
Load More Replies...My therapist said this also regarding my PTSD. Awful at the time, obviously, but it's since become a running joke between my flatmate and I. Got a headache? Just don't think about it. Bills due? Just don't think about it. Car broke down? Just don't think about it. On fire? Just don't think about it! Flawless cure for everything, every time.
Load More Replies...You're absolutely right! Just wondering (experience from what I noticed about older generation women in my family), they did not have option to rest when they had migraines too, so that's probably reason why they say this... They just never knew any different way how to go through that unfortunately.
Dear folks, get checked. Be your own advocate! I had no symptoms, until I couldn't see the edges of things, then my vision started to become white from the outsides of my field of vision. Eventually, I went to an Eye & Ear specialist. I had a pituitary tumor that was pressing on my optic nerve. Headaches, vision changes, whatever it bothering you, seek the best possible medical help. It could save your life. xo
My Dr said it was stress related in other words in my head for 10 years. Until the 1cm Aneurysm exploded and required them them to remove the top 1/3 of my skull to get at it. I fired him from the ICU 24 hours later
After I finished grad school and a dear friend of mine, who smoked, died, I quit having sinus headaches. They were bad. What the difference was that when I was a GTA some of the other grad students in our office smoked. My mom smoked,. so since not being around anyone who smoked, no more obscenely painful sinus headaches.
I was told that they couldn't be headaches if I had them all the time - that was just normal. How could I know it was painful if it was the way I always felt...
omg my husband has said that to me about my mom dying, he means well, but he’s not said for quite a while because i told him through my tears when he finds a way to make that happen to lmk
Pretty much everything about using the power of prayer and positive thinking to attract good things to your life and protect you from negative experiences and outcomes. It's all victim-blaming bulls**t. Telling someone that they should simply put more effort into their positive thoughts/prayers and that they are attracting the negative things that are occurring in their lives is incredibly inappropriate and sh**ty.
It is all code for "You are ultimately to blame for everything that happened to you." I even heard that the "power of attraction" means the Jews brought the Holocaust on themselves. No joke. It was in a book about positive thinking. WTF?!
If it were this easy, the Holocaust wouldn’t have happened, the genocides would not have happened. It’s toxic magical thinking
Naaaah, all those people in concentration camps just didn't think themselves away enough! /s 🙄
Load More Replies...This is not how prayer works. God is not Santa Claus. Prayer is about giving thanks, and about focusing the heart and mind........not about asking for stuff.
So then what's the point in praying for the sick, or elderly church members that are in hospital? What's the point in "praying for peace"? What's the point in praying for another person? What about a prayer for forgiveness? Or for that matter, the entire Lord's Prayer? Or the serenity prayer? "Lord give me strength"? "Lord forgive me"?....I beg to differ, prayer IS about asking for stuff
Load More Replies...To be fair, I watch a lot of porn (because I'm a man)...and I have spent years fantasising about making sweeeeeeet luuurve to a particular 'actress'. Long story short she appeared in my neighbourhood, we hooked up, she pleasured me, I disappointed her...that's my LOA!
'you have it much better than other people'
Okay, I know that's true. But I hate it when people invalidate my experience without being in my shoes.
I often invalidate my own experiences or pain by saying this. I think it's the guilt that I've been brought up with.
If someone tells you the whole others have it worse BS, tell them they can't be happy, because others are happier. It's the same BS
I experienced this just a couple of hours ago. My boss was informing me that I didn't get the promotion I've been working toward for 15+ years. When I told him how upsetting it was, he mentioned several coworkers who have tried for promotions but didn't get them. It's like finding out someone's mom died and telling them they shouldn't be upset because other people's moms have died, too. The presence of others who have suffered a similar pain does not negate what I feel.
‘You think that’s bad? Wait til you hear what happened to me - it’s worse!’
Yours maybe worse but this is the worst I have delt with. I hate it when people say that it is not a competition.
I feel like people who say this aren't really listening... they're just waiting for you to finish talking so they can talk about themselves.
My Mom is like this and has been her entire life. "what about meeeeeeee" is her favourite saying
When my son’s father died in a car accident, a “friend” tried to say it wasn’t as hard on him as her kids losing their father to cancer. WTH - I would never try to compare people’s grief. Yes, your kids saw their dad suffer, but they also had ample time to say everything they wanted to including goodbye. My kid saw his dad wave goodbye and never saw him again. Both are equally sad circumstances.
I work with a woman that does that constantly. Every time you tell her something, she minimizes your situation by topping it with hers. I literally had to tell her a few days ago your situation with your family is your experience but now I am telling you about mine and it affects me too. And she has chased everyone away because of it. Now she has suffered a family loss and no one cares about her feelings. If you tell everyone else to "suck it up." Guess what? So do you.
Wow. I must work with her twin then. I'm sorry you have to work with someone like that.
Load More Replies...Someone says to you...there are people who are worse than you. I always say, I know that, but I can't live THEIR life, I can only live MY own. That shuts them up..,even my doctor!
my siblings have done this to me my whole life. they are all married with kids, and I am the only single independent fok-it-all little sister. anything happens to me, literally even the worse thing (which happened) and it's peanuts compared their various sufferings.. so couple of years ago... bye bye y'all
I lost my first pregnancy earlier this year. It sucked massively and I fell into a depression. A close family member just kept trying to make me 'see the positive side of it'. It's been a while now but to this day, I see no frigging positive side of having lost my child. That, to me, was toxic positivity at its best.
I'm so sorry you've had to endure this toxic comment. I've been waiting 15 years for a reason my healthy 26yo died.
There is no good reason, and that's part of the horror of losing a child. My sympathies!
Load More Replies...What the hell does this even mean? Be glad your child is dead because now you can afford more expensive clothes? WTF?
I was told 'at least you know you can conceive' after one miscarriage. It did not help.
Load More Replies...Shortly after I went through the same devastating situation my husband and I were at a friend's house. Friend has 5 kids and they were driving him nuts... he leans over to my husband and says "you might have dodged a bullet" I've never truly forgiven that comment.
That is an unforgivable comment & you do not need to forgive that so-called "friend" - he needs to apologize.
Load More Replies...Happened to me to - 37 yo, first pregnancy after fertility-treatment and I lost it after a few weeks of happiness. At the time I hated all those comments about 'for the best' and so on.Somebody even tried to make a contest - was it worse for me loosing at 7 weeks or her loosing at 14? Today - two kids and 19 years after, I can see what they meant. Yep - that little one was probably not able to live, and nature took it's course. But I do remember the sorrow at the time and would never, ever say anything like that to a person in that situation.
“At least he doesn’t hit you!” like wow I’m supposed to put up with allllllll the BS because he’s doing something he should?
My stepdad was an abusive alcoholic when I was little (in high school he was diagnosed with a chemical imbalance and it was treated, making him the most amazing dad ever). When I expressed the desire to divorce my first husband whom had been cheating on me for over a year with the same woman, and with other women in years prior, my mom asked, "are you sure that is bad enough for you to end your marriage??". Which made me stay for 5 more years. I guess in perspective, no, it wasn't as bad as what we had been through with my stepfather, but... really???
I guess the institution of marriage is much more important than the actual quality of life of the humans caught in it.
Load More Replies...As person who went through sexual, physical and emotional abuse, I can say that the emotional abuse hurts the longest.
No bandaids excist for emotional abuse. Hugs for you Terilee.
Load More Replies...My ex DID beat me. When I told my mother I was divorcing him, she said I couldn't because we were "married forever in the eyes of the Lord." F^ that and F* anyone who tells you how much sh!t you need to take before you won't take anymore!
You are NOBODY'S punching bag, and shame on your mum for expecting you to be. I'm hope you're in a safer situation now.
Load More Replies...My first boyfriend was insanely emotionally abusive but, ironically, was SO proud of himself that he would never hit a woman because his mom had a boyfriend who hit her and he would never do that. Hitting me probably would have been better than what he did to me, it's been 14 years and I'm still a mess thanks to him.
The bar is so low for men, it’s borderline mass Stockholm syndrome for the Herero female
Not experiencing physical abuse from a spouse is the LEAST admirable thing in a relationship.
I sometimes wished my ex would have hit me more often and leave bruises, so I would have proof! Being psychologically abused can be worse because no one believes you or says stuff like this.
I'd rather be punched in the face than go through some of mental abuse I endured in my past. Constant criticism-- lazy & fat (I weighed 128#!), telling me he could pick up a girl in a bar easier than I could p/u a guy (who does that?!?), girlfriend on the sly, belittling my young children, telling me I was crazy. Yeah...I got out of that mess.
Different variations of "You can't have kids? Take mine for a day and you'll be happy you don't have one of your own! Kids suck lol" Yeah, you being a s***ty parent certainly makes me feel better about being infertile.
Women with the holy mother complex make bad mothers, they control and smother, anyone saying that will prob never see her kids when they grow up. I once had someone say that the whole point of life was having children. People like that are not worth knowing
As a parent I have never said this, nor thought of it. But I've always wondered about the parents that went around saying they hate their kids.
I love my daughter and she is the center of my universe and i do my best to be a present and available mom. But yes it is hard, and yes I celebrate it when I get some time alone and yes I share this with people.
Load More Replies..."If you REALLY wanted a child you would stop at nothing to make it happen." ("Excellent! Can I have one of your eggs and would you carry the baby for me?" Oh no I could never do that.") Not rich enough and too old and single to adopt from O/S and home.Not eligible for fertility treatment as would be futile. Approved to be a foster carer but an unexpected health problem took me out of the program before I could start. I didn't know I would be menopausal in my early 30s People!!! All this and still being told..by some of my insanely fertile Sisters, no less "You don't know/understand ..you don't have kids". Family..You Love them but you don't have to like them all of the time 💔. Then all the comments in my early 40s when I got married..Tick Tok etc. Stop. Please..Just STOP for all women (fertile or non fertile) everywhere! It's exhausting and it's a sadness in me that is ever present and doesn't go away.
Honestly.... No.One.Knows 😮😄😂. All Power to Parents everywhere 🌏🌐 ❤!
Load More Replies...I know this pain and it certainly heals over when you become a parent but you never forget those very lonely, hard days and night. Also ppl can be so demeaning during infertility. There’s no good answer except pls send a lovely note to someone struggling. No mention of infertility or babies, just tell them they matter. It saved me from the brink.
Another one I heard a lot: "I know how it feels if you can't have kids. For us it also took a while to get pregnant." No, you b*tch. You have kids, we don't, how can this be the same? In the same category: "Did someone mention it to you that you guys could also go for adoption? There are so many kids needing a good home" Yes, literally everyone tells me this. It's not friggin' the same! Also, why didn't you go for adoption if you think all these kids need saving? Also also, adoption in a lot of cases is legalized child traffic nowadays. Do you even read newspapers?
Many wonderful people cannot naturally have children while so many awful people have children and totally ruin the kids lives. Life is unfair. Not speaking for myself as I by choice don’t have kids but know a few couples who would be stellar fantastic parents and some others that should have been prohibited from having children as they are terrible parents.
In group therapy someone said that they're proud, they never got depressed, no matter what life threw at them. Because they're such a positive and strong person. With a person with depression sitting right next to them.
I am glad I don't have a tendency towards depression either. But I'm not proud of it, because it's a sickness you're prone to, or you aren't. It's not a weakness. And the fact that we're all sitting together in group therapy shows that we all have one or another unhealthy coping mechanism in place and so far, we weren't able to positive-think our way out of them.
And this is why I have always refused when offered group therapy sessions. For one the last thing I need during my depression states is to be around other people with depression - it makes mine even worse! Also group therapy DOES NOT WORK and anyone telling you otherwise is bullshitting you. Even if I had the EXACT IDENTICAL SAME experience as the person next to me, we'll both have completely unique reactions and end results from that experience due to everyone being a unique individual and there being no such thing as an "average" human. Not to mention you just end up with far less actual beneficial time spent with a therapist since you have to share that same limited time with a whole room of people. It's just a way for either a) therapists to gain more money by being able to take on more clients at a time or b) an organization or government to cheap out on paying/recruiting more therapy staff and not genuinely invest in people's emotional wellbeing.
That's one of the many reasons I loathe group therapy. It always devolves into some kind of competition
It has to be really well-mediated. I was in a group with an attentive psychologist who calmly explained things when there was tension. My brother had someone who told him to handle it when he complained about another person in the group.
Load More Replies...My depression and I would've walked the person that did not have depression out in to the traffic.
Why is there group therapy? I don’t need my problem being a group conversation, my problems are nobodies business.
I've never been able to change the chemical in my brain by thinking happy thoughts
“Pain is all in your head”
Do f**k off with that.
Technically true as all nerves go to your brain but still a stupid saying.
Yes, the brain is in the head, and that's where we ultimately register and process the input of nerves telling us our arm is broken. but the arm is still friggin' broken, folks.
sometimes I want to respond with “Really? Because right now you’re being a pain in the neck.”
To all people who say things like that; would you kindly jam a knife into your skull, then we can talk about it all being in your head
"mEnTaL iLlNeSs Is AlL iN yOuR hEaD" Well yeah, my brain is in my head, dumb*ss.
If fear is an illusion of the mind, then pain must be an illusion of the body.
There's someone for everyone. You just need to believe and you will find love. No, there isn't and no, love isn't guaranteed.
Perhaps there isn't someone for everyone but a lot of people have ridiculously high expectations. I have a permanently single friend who is not very handsome and will only date model-looking women (without much success). Gets offended when someone points it out to him and I know a lovely girl who fancies him but "he likes her but she's not his type looks-wise"...
I am permanently single, and my expectations are not that high. He should be alive, I guess.
Load More Replies...Actually this promulgates the myth of serial monogamy, which is BS and leads to divorces in the end, because the 'perfect' person was not found, so you ditch them and try again. In the meantime, it is YOU who has the problem and hence you just have to keep trying. IMHO relationships are a matter of practice and growth. You learn from each one. There is no perfect relationship. They all come and go, are boring and exciting, become stale, etc. I think we should be less formalised about this, less disney-esque, and less romanticised. It's just oxytocin ffs.Same with friends; they come and go in contexts. Why is it that there must be this one perfect person who like jesus will come with salvation forever? It's nonsense. Apologies if that is cynical.
There is someone for everyone, but no one has time to travel the whole world to find that someone. A lot of people just don't meet that someone in their life.
Or you just don't like people like that
Load More Replies...Sex isn't an entitlement. That's what incels are made of. Love is luck - at first - and then it's earned.
There’s a study that says that there are five or six good matches for everyone of us. That doesn’t mean that you’ll find them. I think it’s better to be happy alone and then if it happens, good, if it doesn’t, good too.
I beg to differ, if you look hard enough, you will find the perfect dogo for you. Sure it might not be a strong and strapping golden retriever or a slick looking doberman you have always dreamed about, but you never know. One day you might just be checking in at a local shelter, not really looking for anything series, no commitments, and then you find them, that shaggy terrier you can see yourself settling down with and will always be there to keep your feet warm. Never give up, the right dog...or cat (no judgement) is out there for you.
most people don't know themselves good enough, and/or don't accept their true nature to be able to know what kind of person is right for them, and even if, we are often not attracted to what would work for us.
Someone told me I was “polluting” their space with “my sadness”. I asked them wtf they meant (because I wasn’t acting sad or even saying anything) and they said they could “feel” a “deep sadness” in me and that my presence itself was harmful. Like holy s**t talk about thought police
Once on a bus after visiting my terminally ill mother in the hospital a woman turned the baby stroller around so that the baby faced away from me and said to her friend "I don't want anyone to look at my child like this". Bitch, I just visited my dying mother, I am NOT sorry that my sadness offended you.
Then move your space away from my business. Yeah that's right, sadness is my business, gtfo. Just sayin'
Lol...this made me laugh! "Sadness is my business", gold!
Load More Replies...There's a reason why face-slapping used to be considered a no-blood no-foul situation when confronted with an absolute lunatic invading your space with their wild-eyed, bat-s**t crazy demands. Someone would catch a looney talking twaddle like this and try to snap some sense back into them. They're a plague.
You should have asked them if they could feel you about to kick them in the ass!
“You’re really pretty for a chubby girl” Thaaaaaanx.
Or: "You're really stupid for a specimen of a species supposedly known for its intelligence"
Load More Replies...I once once overheard someone saying about me "She's actual quite pretty... in an unusual way... if you look at her closely"
They need to check either their eyes or their manners. Or both.
Load More Replies...Or "for someone your age"! Grrrrr, just tell me I look good don't add "for your age" it's no longer compliment then
WTF!!* Are people even ALLOWED to say stuff like that these days?! I like Dee Lees retort
“I just strive to be an honest person. I’m sorry if it hurt you”.
Some s**t should just not be said ok?
Compassion is a much more valuable character trait than honesty, IMHO.
I think there is just a time and place for both.
Load More Replies...Directness and honesty is great. Bringing it without tact, it is still rude and hurtful.
Why can’t you just be happy?
Manners and decency would be good. Too bad they can't also acquire intelligence.
Load More Replies...Oh yeah, my mom loves this one. It's called untreated major depression and it's not like I'm enjoying being this way, thanks.
My mum told me I was too young for depression, lol. I just learned to hide it plenty good when she's around, as there's nothing she can help me with and I don't want to burden her as she'd blame herself for it.
Load More Replies...It’s not like it’s an option, why would people choose to be miserable
Because I have a chemical imbalance. See how you feel if your brain decides to stop letting you be happy.
ohhhhhhhh I'd give them my list of struggles, and then either demand they help me fix every single one or never talk to me again
Family is meant to hurt and forgive.
I call bs.
If you think you were "meant to hurt" others, you need to grow up. Maliciously hurting others is sociopathic. I mean, I'm appalled if I accidentally hurt someone, and apologize immediately.
When we first spent time with my husband's family after we were married I was amazed at the lack of drama and just plain ill-will! It really shone a light on how toxic my family was.
Precisely what I did years ago. And I've NEVER looked back or regretted my decision.
Load More Replies...What they mean is: Your family is meant to hurt you, and you are supposed to forgive them.
I've cut ties with several toxic family members. I taught my children just because people are "family" you don't have to associate with that kind of crap. When my stepson died, my mother was being an attention whore. I told her I needed her love & support as we got ready to say goodbye to this child & asked for a hug. She flat out said, "No." I told her to get her $h1t and leave. I didn't talk to her for 6 months.
Why would you allow someone that mean and toxic to remain in your life at all?
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“Happiness is a choice.” Shudder.
this! Acting happy is mostly to make the people around you feel better - and to hide how you really feel.
Load More Replies...A VERY COMMON comment that has been casually directed at me multiple times in memes. An AMAZING capacity for social darkness and lack of empathy.
It's not an easy choice. Happiness is some thing you have to work on every day. For some people it takes anti-depressents, for a lot of people it takes therapy. Often it takes daily mindfulness practice, and training ourselves not to blame or shame ourselves or others, and to appreciate the many positive things in our lives. It's not a one-and-done choice. It's a deliberately taking steps to heal yourself and train your mind and emotions choice. It's a choosing our response choice. It's a choice you get to make over and over again, every hour of every day. It doesn't mean bad things don't happen, or that you aren't going to have periods of pain, grief, and depression. It means working through these things and working at getting over bitterness and resentment and depression, and re-learning how to be happy all over again. Happiness is a discipline.
I don't fully disagree with this one for the reason that you can choose to search for things that can make you happy. Learning a new hobby or taking some classes to better your education/employment status , joining a group to find like minded people to add to your social circle, ect. If you so nothing and stay miserable then in a sense you are choosing to remain unhappy.
ALL THE TIME. Mum says "You're in charge of your feelings. Do something to cheer yourself up." IM HAVING A F*****G PANIC ATTACK AND YOU WANT ME TO "TAKE CONTROL" AND "LISTEN TO HAPPY MUSIC OR SOMETHING"!?
“Life will be easier if you just accept that you’ll be doing most of the house work”…. Ex-boyfriends mom in response to a conversation about how ex-boyfriend did not help with chores.
"Life will be easier if your life partner does their share." There, fixed it!
After my co-worker got married, her husband moved into her house. When the spring came and her lawn needed to be mowed, he refused to do it. He asked her, Who did it before I got here?" She said, My father. He said, Oh well.
The only response I have to this is a whole lot of words that would get me kicked off.......
No, just censored. Example: "M**********r bitch ass, what kind of s**t crap advice is that about your son of a bitch son who should f*****g help with the housework?!"
Load More Replies...Okay so here is something that bothers me. Women still do the overwhelming bulk of the housework even though both people normally work the same hours. If that is how it is going to be then I need to send my husband off to learn how to do all the handyman stuff men have historically been responsible for doing. This does really bother me actually. How is it that women couldn't shake the house work but men aren't still expected to fix the roof, install new floors, rewire the house, and fix the toaster? Just saying.
" just because you gave up and lived that way doesn't mean i will "
Something along the lines of “you have as many hours in the day as Beyoncé.” I just can’t even begin with how much I hate everything about that.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Time is money, therefore money is time. When you have money, you have a LOT more time than those of us who don't have money. Because we have no choice but to spend our time doing the things that moneyed people hire others to do.
Well, so do you, then why are you still here giving me shitty advice instead of sipping cocktails on a private island?
You might have as many hours in a day as Beyonce but you most likely not have the money to buy all the help she gets.
Ugh, no! I f*****g don’t! She’s got a gazillion dollars! Probably an army of nannies, chefs, cleaners, assistants! F**k off…
yes but beyonce has many more ppl to do all her things in that same 24 hours
"Having expectations on relationships only lead to disappoiment" So am I supposed to put up with whatever the f**k they want to treat me? Wtf.
They meant well somewhat. Expectations can be bad, but that is meant totally different. Hard to explain for me in english, maybe someone could find better words? It’s like having the expectation to be loved coz you did something for someone. It’s the expectation you put on others to make you happy. That’s not how this works. You can only control yourself, your actions, your feelings (somewhat) But you can keep your expectations in check. Don’t confuse this with boundaries or rules, anticipation, or apathy. Sure you can expect your partner to be loyal, honest and so on, doesn‘t mean you can control them though. But you can control how much you trust them, and how far you wanna challenge this expectation or trust. Alot in life is about how WE handle it and less the actions put in front of us. We often confuse this actio/reactio as causality, neglect the control we ourselves have and put our life(happiness) in other people’s hands. That you might wanna prevent.
Expectations that don't come forth from a prior agreement of some sorts are a road to disappointment - BUT when you're in a relationship with someone you have an impression of someone, an estimation if you will, and if that estimation turns out to be wrong, then that means you were wrong about someone and who they are. Estimations are valid because they're based on the other person's behaviour, and thus if the impression or estimation turns out wrong, then the other person is the reason for it.
Load More Replies...This is what women are pretty much told, yes. It's allllll a big lie, ladies. Make your life wonderful for yourself--get that education, that career, that money--nurture a good group of fabulous girlfriends, travel, have pets, have a baby, buy your own home. Then only invite a man into your life if he is going to enhance and enrich your life, fulfill your needs, and make things better for you, not worse. True happiness is something we can give ourselves, and a romantic relationship is not needed in order to have a rich and fulfilling life. Guard your personal power and happiness preciously.
Non- realistic high expectations- roses, wine/dine, romance 24/7. Realistic expectations- Respect, love, 50/50 (or 100/100) partnership.
I find this one is true (in a lot of cases but not all) because people have super high expectations of their partner yet rarely for themselves. People will complain endlessly about how little their partner does, list off all their faults, complain about them not giving them enough attention, etc. But I hear these complaints from both people in the relationship. Everyone overestimates what they contribute, justifies their own bad behavior or flaws, but completely ignores what their partner does do and hyper-focus on what they haven't. Being really honest with yourself about what you contribute and how you act is really important before you start imposing standards on your partner because I have a lot of couple friends and the worst relationships is when both people have high expectations of the other but do messed up s**t themselves.
I wouldn’t ever put up with somebody who made me get a tattoo, especially one as ugly as that!
Expectations, no. Boundaries and standards, yes. It can be a confusing line to differentiate.
"If I can do it, you can do it."
i never understood this one. if you can do it, then i can do it, because i am inherently better than you and so anything you can do is clearly within my superior grasp? is that what you're saying? or are you saying that everyone has exactly the same abilities?
Sometimes people mean this in an unpretentious way: "I am not that special, I don't have special abilities, I think you are at least as capable as I am, probably more. So if I can do it, you sure can". Still most of the time a wrong assumption, and not a smart thing to say.
Load More Replies...Yup, customize for the person and situation and throw in a little honesty. For example, I told a discouraged colleague learning to code, "It was hard for me, too, when I started. I think you'll get good at this." They looked surprised, then relieved, and they gave me a big smile.
Load More Replies...If the girl next door speaks three languages, does it mean I can?
I sometimes, under the right circumstances, say this to make my friends stop worrying about something in their future. "Oh even I managed to graduate, so I'm sure you will do just fine on your graduation, you're smarter than me!" Admittedly, it is a phrase that one has to think about before using, because you do not want it to sound like you're praising yourself and undermining the abilities of the other person.
Think this can be good for motivation, but not used universally. It is one thing for a pro-football player to come give an inspirational speech at a school and tell kids, "If I can live my dream then so can you" vs. a friend being like "I got a great job because I worked hard and if I can do it then so can you." A lot of our lives are not determined by us, but rather by circumstance and environment. So trying to get people to try is one thing, using your success as criticism against someone who is struggling is just an insult.
I kid you not, my math teacher with 7+ years of experience told this to me. I am in 9th grade.
'You're not like the other girls'
'You're not like the other girls' just means "I despise women in general, but you are pretty enough and I want to get into your pants. After I've gotten there you are just like the other girls." Huge red flag. These dudes also have a string of "crazy ex-girlfriends", if they get any at all.
Usually a good sample size would consist of a few thousand people, only regarding the country he lives in, wordwide probably more. So for him to claim one is different he would have needed at least a couple thousand girls before to be sure about that.
Or he lives in a small town with only a few girls in his peer group and she definitely was not like the other girls?
Load More Replies...The whole "I'm not like other girls" is just a way of saying that you think that you're better than other women and it's disgusting. I wish that that saying and mentality would just die off.
Ah. So you hate women as a whole then, and are trying to make me feel special while shitting on my sisters. F**k outta here.
Ugg. I HATE this one. To condense what was turning into a paragraphs long rant: this says to me that said person has never actually had a conversation with any other 'girl' and has a negative opinion of women in general.
"You either trust me or you don't. Trust doesn't get built" - said my disgusting ex earlier in our relationship
Pretty strong sign you shouldn't trust him, trying to guilt you like that into acting like you trust him instead of showing you he is trustworthy. What a mindfuck.
I agree with this, I went into my relationship trusting my husband. He never had to build it or earn it, he just had to keep it and he did. Think this is dependent on the couple and the relationship. It is really hard to form or maintain a relationship when someone doesn't trust you. I have never read my husband's texts, emails, or question him, but he has never put me in that situation where I felt I needed to. I think you can start with trust initially but I also think that it is very dependent on the people in the relationship.
I offended someone once, two people actually for saying I didn't trust them yet.We had just started talking....
A YouTube video opened my eyes on how body positivity can be toxic. I've realized I'm just body-neutral. I don't think my body is beautiful and I don't have to! I'm more than my body and I'm at peace with it even if I wish some things were different. They don't affect my self-esteem.
I'm okay with the body positivity thing. If it helps people let go of self-hatred, it's worth some annoyance.
Yes, seeing pics of chubby girls (I'm one of them) looking great actually helps me being more confident and makes me think that I could actually wear that dress I've been afraid to wear for years
Load More Replies...Yeah, I never understood why not hating your body meant one must have all these lovey, gushy feelings for it. I'm all for accepting, appreciating, and respecting your body; I prefer those words to communicate what I think they're trying to communicate.
It’s subjective anyway. There is no beautiful or ugly. Just your own perception. If you like or don’t like what you see in the mirror, nothing but you can change that. Accepting it, or trying to change it is also totally on you. Nothing wrong with liking, disliking, accepting thy own looks imo. I hate my looks, but I love how my wife likes it. I don’t care enough about my looks though to be depressed about it. Age or accident, disease or sickness can change it anytime anyway.
I have Crohns, which leaves me with a sink body and an ever changing tummy (from almost flat to 6 months pregnant). I have had to learn to live with the "when are you expecting" to the "wow, you have lost weight" as much as learning to try and control my attacks. Please stop adding to my stress by my shape. Stress increases my attacks!
It's about wrong interpretation of body positivity. It says that functionality and health of our bodies is more important than just physical appearance. It does not say that morbid obesity is good.
"well, everyone has a little bit of depression here and there." ok and that's supposed to make me feel better or something?
Having depression and being a bit depressed as in temporarily down/upset, is not the same
A little louder for the ones in the back, please. 🙌
Load More Replies...Being depressed after a funeral, after a loss, after a bad stretch: OK. Depression as a clinical illness is every freaking day. Every. Freaking. Day.
I don't have a little depression! I have suicidal depression. Even after having been told this so many times and then because of that little bit of depression that everyone has, I did make every effort to die, but unfortunately recovered I was still told people who have enough faith don't end up with depression. What were they saying to me?? If not for the fact that medications have been discovered/created I would have kept trying until I made it.
I feel you! Hooray to the medicatioms keeping us alive
Load More Replies...That person has never been depressed OMG LOL forgive them, they’re just super ignorant and are regurgitating some emotive s**t they heard in an attempt to make you feel less alone. They’re lucky they don’t know.
having a bad (depressing day) is not the same as being clinically depressed
"You are only hurting yourself when you are crying look I'm unaffected."
judging from the army person in the background I'm guessing she's a military widow now.
Load More Replies...What a horrible person! Most people feel bad when they see someone else really upset its called empathy, even tiny animals like voles show it
I don't cry, myself. I really wish that I could however I'm not an emotional person in any way. I completely understand and accept that crying is a natural and necessary realese for many people though. When I was a manager I had to sit down with employees for reviews and terminations and many of those employees would burst into tears, several apologizing for doing so. I would tell them, "Not at all, no need to apologize, take your time." Allowing them to get through it and collect themselves they often seemed stronger and more resolute after their crying. It always made it easier for them to accept what was happening and to accept options I brought to the table to help them with their next step. Crying isn't a weakness that I have seen. The only emotional weakness that I can see is FTFO in a climatic situation.
I can't cry when sad. I cry if I get angry. But I do care and try to be the strong person that pours the tea, passes the cake and gives the best back rub I can do. You grieve and cry. I will watch over you.
Load More Replies...I read a post from someone incapable of feeling most emotions. Even they had the decency to say, "That's sad" to colleagues when a team member died suddenly. They felt nothing, but they understood that it was not the norm.
Load More Replies...A good cry can be healing. Those who are unaffected keep a lot of s**t inside or just don't care...
Hold your babies and your head up. Walk away from this toxic POS. Go to the nearest women's advocates for a place for you and your babies. It's amazing how strong you can be for you and your kids. It's hard but oh so worth it. 💗
Perhaps it is something to do with her husband being deployed. She is obviously on base. Maybe she is overwhelmed with the weight of having small children and being without her partner. I just want to reach thru the screen and say "here, hand me one, mama, and let's go sit down."
Load More Replies...Poor woman. Someone needs to reach out to her. Someone needs to reach out to all of us. I think we're tired of doing the reaching
"Don't waste your time worrying about it." Sorry but I can't help it
Life got easier for me when I adopted the rule, "Will this still worry me in a year?" If the answer is yes, then I'm worrying all I want. If the answer is no? OK, will it worry me/bother me this much in a month? A week? A day? If I get to even "no" after a week, then I feel less overwhelmed. Which may be shitty advice, but to each their own.
Load More Replies...Yeah sorry, my "switch off worry" button is broken. Always has been. Factory defect.
Sounds like anxiety. I've accepted that mine won't be cured, but management strategies have reduced the impact on my life. See under Caro Caro's comment for ideas. Some practice may be required.
Load More Replies...It's crappy advice because there is no follow up. No "Here's how to do this". Some people are natural worriers (be it anxiety, OCD, ptsd, or a host of other reasons) and we don't just come into the world with all these built in programs on how to deal with stuff. So what they're really saying when they say this is "I don't want to help you, but I also don't want to listen to you. Please stop talking about it near me".
Basically in my experience this means “I don’t wanna hear you talk about it anymore”. Find someone who understands that you just want someone to listen. They don’t care.
I have generalized anxiety disorder and I worrying about EVERYTHING, stuff from the past, future and all in between and I just HATE(!!!) this saying. Like, god damn I don't worrying because it's funny - I AM FUDGEING SICK YOU STUPID MF!
Fake it till you make it. Ugh. The f**king worst.
One of the most dumb ideas I've ever heard. I got group jumped by fellow managers when I told the lead manager I didn't know how to accomplish a certain task. They all gasped and looked at me like I'd took a dump on the breakfast table. One of the managers leans over and says you're not supposed to say that you don't know, you fake it till you make it. I went off on her and the rest of them. I was in the Marine Corps. That idea would get you killed or your team killed! It is best that you know each others strengths and weaknesses so that you can plan accordingly. If someone doesn't know how to do something that they should or need to in the circumstances then you provide the tools and education to raise them up, thus elevating the whole group. You don't leave them floundering in the dark, fearful of f'ing up because they're left to their own devices.
Built my career on it. Works great, but not applicable to every fields. Just got lucky
Can work for interior decoration, won't work for brain surgery.
Load More Replies...Wouldn’t recommend this with sex. It feels like you’re harassing yourself a little.
This has actually worked well for me. I'm a huge introvert with social anxiety. I had the hardest time talking to people, in front of groups, etc. So I faked looking and acting confident. Eventually, it actually got easier for me and I began to feel more confident. I don't recommend this advice in every situation, but it's not completely useless.
there's a song called Brown Eyes, Brown Hair by Caleb Hearn, and in the chorus it says "sometimes its alright to fake it till you make, just don't let that be your savin'" its a really good song and it touches on how tis alright to not be happy all the time
Yea, I have never found this to be true. I hear it a lot when people are talking about work and that is a terrible idea. If you feel like you have to fake it at work then you probably need to talk to a supervisor and ask for additional training because the stress of being lost at work is overwhelming. As for faking that you are happy or faking through a relationship, you are more just dulling yourself emotionally until you go through life like a robot until it becomes routine.
"Its not your situation. Its about how you react to it." - my bff
And how am I suppose to react to office sexual harassment of a senior management without the risk of losing my job and not be able to pay my rent, dare I may say???? There's also the risk of ruining connections and forever barring me from the industry completely.
I was venting to my friend. All I needed was to vent and cry. I know the consequences involved with even a tiny move against this person who has such great influence my chosen feild. No, I cant just "react" my heart out, dear.
Ehm. No. There is stuff you can do. Seek help, collect evidence. Fight back. You often have choices, either you aren’t aware of them, or afraid, or afraid of consequences. There she should have helped you. I learned being silent is most often the wrong choice.
Depends so much on the situation and who is there to support you, or not.
Load More Replies..."Its not your situation. Its about how you react/feel to it." That sentence was told to me by therapist. It actually helps me in a lot of situations - but they are far away from what he/she as to deal with!
I word it differently because of my personal experience: "Sometimes you have to act in spite of your feelings, not because of them." I gave advice to someone about a problem with a colleague and included the emotions they might get: "My heart beats faster when I do this, but it goes away quickly. So I ignore it and solve the problem."
Load More Replies...“The only thing you can control is how you react to a situation” is some solid advice IMO.
Yes. It took me a long time to learn, too. But there are times to say it, and times not.
Load More Replies...I can control my reactions and actions. That means they can control *theirs*.
Also sounds like the friend is fed up with her endlessly complaining and never doing anything.
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The HR person at my old job told me to "lean in more" when I requested a meeting about sexism in the office.
HR isn't there for the employees, they are there for the employer and for their own job security.
Wow... Although, in my experience, HR people will first and foremost think of how to make this go away so that the company is not liable/implicated.
Ever since I started working in a corporation after college, I have always wondered why I just instinctively mistrusted everyone in HR. Not that I was doing anything wrong, but they all just seemed really sneaky and phony to me. I since found out that I had a very good reason to feel that way and that I wasn't just abnormally paranoid.
Implying sexism is your fault. or that you can overcome it with elbow grease. And a giant F U to that noise.
Not sure if this fits, but "Just keep eating. Don't worry about how much. Eat until you're happy" Eat until I'm happy? I prefer to separate food from emotion, thank you. I've seen people approach the brink of passing aaway by tying food and emotion. No thank you. Not for me.
This might be a different angle, but I don’t think this person who gives that advice enjoys food anymore. Just putting stuff in your belly until the pain is gone - sounds like an eating disorder where emotional emptiness is mistaken for hunger (suuuuper common). Food should be respected, tasted and, if you have the presence, savoured.
I live where sometimes weight gain is associated with a person being happy. "ugh, I gotta do something about this weight that I gained." "Oh, it just means that you're happy." wtf?
My dad died from a food addiction...and he was still depressed. This is sh*t advice.
Also "you are choosing to be overweight!" So many things affect your body including physical and emotional that NOBODY needs to be so stupid/callous/ignorant to make such statements!
"the act of smiling makes you feel better, so even if you're feeling really bad you can start smiling and eventually your feelings will catch up" No thank you
There's actually science behind this one. Studies conclusively proved that even a fake smile causes your brain to produce dopamine, serotonin, and endorphins. I've used this to help me when I'm depressed, by seeking out things that will make me smile and laugh. And it does help me manage my depression.
Thank you! It does help a little and is a good tool to use when trying to manage depression in public or the work space. Not a cure-all at all, but definitely not garbage advice!
Load More Replies...It does help when you're down or grumpy. (This is not about mental illness.) Often when I was grumpy, down, I ended up reasonably happy, because I greeted everyone friendly, even if I didn't feel like it. It's because you get friendliness in return I guess. A warm smile / greeting can do wonders. And maybe even solo smiling helps...as it focuses on the silly cat and not the mess it made which you have to clean up. Or the silly dog that goes wild when you ask him to search for the ball (which you didn't bring).
And when I DO smile it's all "oh god, why does your face look like that??!"
Yeah...the song "Smile" was a big hit for Billie Holiday, who died at 44, a drug-addict and alcoholic... (rolling eyes) Who is zooming who?
There are certain things you can do to make yourself feel better or calmer. If I am in crisis I eat super hot peppers. I love spicy food. So after a miserable day at work I will eat a ton of hot pepper or even straight up drink my Carolina Reaper sauce. Spicy food causes your brain to produce and release serotonin, I think it is related to the pain and your brain trying to relieve the pain with endorphins. Either way it is like a shot and helps calm me down. Not that I stop being bi-polar, but it can help level me out in the moment. Smiling is kind of the same. Not a cure, but something to give a shot to calm you down in the moment.
I sometimes make myself laugh hysterically in the mirror. It’s not fake, i know it’s not a genuine laugh, but the act of these “happiness byproduct behaviours” release serotonin and other endorphins to raise my mood just enough to allow me to deal with whatever emotional turmoil I’m going through. Sometimes it helps. Sometimes not.
Smiles are catching. IMHO, I think most people are born to respond automatically to a smile, even from a stranger on the street. I found myself smiling at the young woman in the above photo.
When I vent I don't enjoy a certain aspect of my jobs to a friend/colleague: "but it won't be any different in a different field" Well thank you that is very relevant
I've learned that a LOT of people don't understand the difference between when someone needs a shoulder to cry on or an ear to vent to, and when they actually want advice or help. If you're not sure, ask. It's not helpful if you give shitty advice to someone who just needed to vent or maybe needed a "don't worry, you'll be OK" or whatever.
I go a different route, and I think it's more sensible. Either I tell people beforehand that I just need to vent, or I stop them when they start offering solutions and tell them then that I just want to vent. People can't read minds. The people supposedly giving unsolicited advice can't read your friggin mind, so tell them right away and don't blame them for thinking solution-oriented. They are honestly trying to help you.
Load More Replies...It's not necessarily true. I heard that a lot when I was leaving my first job, but none of my jobs after that sucked as much as the first one.
Someone told me, "Well, someone out there would love to have your job." I guess in a nutshell, people really don't want to hear about your challenges.
Your friend is obviously tired of listening to you. That may because she isn’t empathetic or because you constantly complain. Some people think that changing jobs or fields will fix their work problems. That doesn’t really work if they are the problem. I’ve known people like that.
It’s not you it’s me
Actually that's true. If they have issues being with you or whatever, that really is theirs to deal with.
Yes, but it must be remembered that this doesn’t mean allowing all types of treatment towards you and vice versa. Once you make the aware of how you’re upset, unhappy, etc., it’s also now that person’s responsibility to respond (or not, but that’s also a response).
Load More Replies...You're giving me the "it's not you, it's me" routine? I invented "it's not you, it's me!" Nobody tells me it's them, not me! If it's anybody, it's me. - George Costanza
When I was a teen struggling with extra weight, I looked to my parents for help in how to do it - it was the 90's so no internet to do my own research. The response was 'but you are beautiful the way you are'. I get that they were trying to make me feel better about myself, but it didn't help me lose weight.
I was a teen in the 90's as well (and got a little chubby when puberty hit), and because my parents were heavy smokers they were not exercisers. Ironically it was my physical education teacher that helped me...he even pointed out a few books I could read in the library about the benefits of cardiovascular exercise . As much as I hated that class (our school schedule did not allow enough time for us to shower just change clothes) I'm grateful for it as an adult because that helped guide me to my career as a cardiovascular technologist :)
Load More Replies...Because I don’t want to change myself for you … 🤷♀️
Load More Replies...I've used this one too to be honest. I just don't feel like kicking someone when they're already on the ground. Just because their personality traits don't fit well with mine doesn't mean that their traits are wrong.
I admit that I've used this lame attempt back in the day, and the truth is, it was always them.
They're called platitudes and they're never a good idea. Sometimes it's very hard to stop spouting this kind of sh#t but it's worth it to try because it helps nobody. We had a woman at my work whose son had killed himself and while I didn't offer a platitude when I met her on the elevator I Could Not stop myself from asking how she was! I felt like such a nitwit. Fifteen years or so later I hope I know better.
My very exact thought! This applies to all people, not only women! Read through all the comments, and I feel empathy for all. Still: it shouldn't be about women only!
Load More Replies...One of the worst things ever to say if I’m angry, is “Chill out” I will explode.
My father always says "calm down" which always - always - makes me angrier.
Load More Replies...I resent 'Christian's' telling those of us who have depression, cancer, anxiety, diseases, that we just don't have enough faith. When they claim prayer or faith is the answer to every problem, I ask don't you think God might have had something to do with scientists coming up with medications, surgeries, etc. to help with disease? It's like saying you're not going to climb in an ambulance because you only need faith when you are by involved in a terrible accident. And no, God did not cause that accident.
Yes, if it was god who would have really saved me from a general sepsis, why would he had given it to me at the first place ? Doctors and science saved me. Period.
Load More Replies...When you say you don't like something about your appearance today, and people say "Oh no, you are beautiful just the way you are!". No, I'm completely aware I don't always look beautiful - I can be tired, or sick, or have some skin issues, and that's okay - nobody looks perfect 24/7. You saying I;m beautiful won't make me feel better, it just sounds patronizing.
My mother and step dad are super guilty with the toxic positivity and platitudes. So glad I don’t talk to them anymore! Just cos it’s family, does not mean you have to love ‘em..
There are many situations where these comments can be insincere, empty, or dismissive. Many of them are in any situation, and many people just trot out useless stock phrases. But there are also some people who are stuck in a negative cycle/rut who don't want to address/resolve anything and see everything as toxic positivity. I think it's important to realise when this is the case.
Be glad peeps care enough to give you the time of damn day and stop putting conditions on folks. Most people are too damn self-centered to give each other the time of day. And a lot of these are people reading into what people said. Adding their own narrative. I;d rather a positive platituder than a chronic complainer ANY day.
I've been on the giving and recieving end of eome version of many of those misguided attempts to be helpful. I've also been at the recieving and hopefully the giving end of actually being present and helpful. It's just so hard. I try to be forgiving and thankful.
They're called platitudes and they're never a good idea. Sometimes it's very hard to stop spouting this kind of sh#t but it's worth it to try because it helps nobody. We had a woman at my work whose son had killed himself and while I didn't offer a platitude when I met her on the elevator I Could Not stop myself from asking how she was! I felt like such a nitwit. Fifteen years or so later I hope I know better.
My very exact thought! This applies to all people, not only women! Read through all the comments, and I feel empathy for all. Still: it shouldn't be about women only!
Load More Replies...One of the worst things ever to say if I’m angry, is “Chill out” I will explode.
My father always says "calm down" which always - always - makes me angrier.
Load More Replies...I resent 'Christian's' telling those of us who have depression, cancer, anxiety, diseases, that we just don't have enough faith. When they claim prayer or faith is the answer to every problem, I ask don't you think God might have had something to do with scientists coming up with medications, surgeries, etc. to help with disease? It's like saying you're not going to climb in an ambulance because you only need faith when you are by involved in a terrible accident. And no, God did not cause that accident.
Yes, if it was god who would have really saved me from a general sepsis, why would he had given it to me at the first place ? Doctors and science saved me. Period.
Load More Replies...When you say you don't like something about your appearance today, and people say "Oh no, you are beautiful just the way you are!". No, I'm completely aware I don't always look beautiful - I can be tired, or sick, or have some skin issues, and that's okay - nobody looks perfect 24/7. You saying I;m beautiful won't make me feel better, it just sounds patronizing.
My mother and step dad are super guilty with the toxic positivity and platitudes. So glad I don’t talk to them anymore! Just cos it’s family, does not mean you have to love ‘em..
There are many situations where these comments can be insincere, empty, or dismissive. Many of them are in any situation, and many people just trot out useless stock phrases. But there are also some people who are stuck in a negative cycle/rut who don't want to address/resolve anything and see everything as toxic positivity. I think it's important to realise when this is the case.
Be glad peeps care enough to give you the time of damn day and stop putting conditions on folks. Most people are too damn self-centered to give each other the time of day. And a lot of these are people reading into what people said. Adding their own narrative. I;d rather a positive platituder than a chronic complainer ANY day.
I've been on the giving and recieving end of eome version of many of those misguided attempts to be helpful. I've also been at the recieving and hopefully the giving end of actually being present and helpful. It's just so hard. I try to be forgiving and thankful.
