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Toxic masculinity is a term that has evolved over time and now has a place both in academia and everyday speech. In short, it describes the negative aspects of exaggerated masculine traits. This concept is often illustrated in popular culture, including through the use of memes like the sigma face meme, which can highlight and sometimes critique these exaggerated traits.

A few days ago, Reddit user TacoHellDriveThru decided to figure out what that means for men personally. So they submitted a question to r/AskReddit, saying: "What's a form of toxic masculinity you've experienced in your life as a male?" TacoHellDriveThru specified they only wanted serious answers, and serious answers are what they got.

#1

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) People act like I'm suspicious or dangerous when I travel alone with my daughter.

Every time I go out in public without her mother I get people watching me closely. I parked my car in a parking lot to feed her lunch a while back (didn't want to take her inside due to COVID) and a group of people gawked and circled our vehicle in their truck a few times. That is not an uncommon experience for me.

I'm legitimately afraid to take her into a family bathroom because I fear some Karen is going to call the police and tell them I am doing something unspeakable because God forbid a man act like a nurturing parent in public. I'm scared I'm going to get a gun pulled on me in front of my daughter.

A lot of people assume that a lone man with a child or adjacent to children is a predator by default.

If they're not assuming I'm a predator, I still get comments like "Babysitting for mom?" No, I'm not babysitting for mom. I am her parent and I'm every bit as capable at it as her mother. Me taking my child to the park and feeding her lunch isn't "babysitting" just because I am doing it alone.

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Dr. Esther De Dauw, a comic scholar working on superheroes, gender, race, and anti-hegemonic narratives, agrees that toxic masculinity is deeply rooted in our society. "The stories we tell, our popular myths, films, books, etc, are ways for us to make sense of the world," she told Bored Panda. "A lot of our storytelling is wrapped up in toxic masculinity—it's all about the hero who can stand alone, take care of business, who doesn’t cry or relies on his community."

"We see these stories as kids and the adults in our lives tend to enforce the lessons taken from these stories 'boys don't cry', 'no means yes', etc. And then we become adults and while we might tell different stories, we tend to embed the values we've grown up with in our stories—because to us that's just how the world is, it's our normative world view. Research in sociology and psychology increasingly points to media as a really powerful tool to pass on norms and values, and with the increased media presence in our lives through smartphones, tablets, and binge culture – we’re constantly being influenced."

De Dauw also co-authored a book on the subject. Titled Toxic Masculinity: Mapping the Monstrous in Our Heroes, it's an exciting exploration of the impact of hypermasculinity on the creation of the modern superhero.

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Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) I've been called 'gay' for rescuing a starving kitten and taking it to the RSPCA.

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Dr. De Dauw highlighted that when we're talking about toxic masculinity, we're not just talking about general sexism. "Of course, they're related and influence each other, but toxic masculinity is about the extreme rejection of what our culture thinks of as feminine traits (sensitivity, softness, etc) and the adoration of masculine traits (self-sufficiency, stoicism, etc)," she said.

"It's about the shame and pain that men are taught to feel when they're not manly enough and how that leads them to lash out (mostly at women). It's about how the traits of masculinity can become toxic to both men and the people in their lives."

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Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) I got made fun of for wearing lifesaving safety gear on job sites. There are people now who can't taste, smell, or hear properly because they were too stubborn to put on earplugs and safety glasses, since it's 'not manly' to protect yourself apparently.

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"So, I’m thinking about the way that when men experience a mental health crisis, they are less likely to reach out for help because it’s not considered manly to be overwhelmed by your emotions or circumstances," Dr. De Dauw said. "Eating disorders, steroid addiction, and body modification addiction have been on the rise amongst young men since the 1980s because with bodybuilding action heroes and superhero films, the culturally ideal body type for men has shifted."

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In the UK, for example, 3 times as many men as women die by suicide.

#4

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) Getting sh*t on for not caring about sports. I'm sorry, I just don't want to spend my time watching people run around a field. And no, I don't want to play sports video games either.

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Vorknkx
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same here. The only time I may show interest in sports is during Olympics, but that's pretty much it.

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De Dauw herself has experienced sexism. When she was doing her Ph.D., a fellow Ph.D. scholar referred to her as 'the one with the big b**bs' to another colleague. She has also had students make gender-based comments during teaching evaluations. She has even been harassed on the street.

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But, the toxic masculinity that De Dauw has experienced in her life has mostly impacted men she has known who were unable to talk about their feelings or trauma and, due to this inability, hurt themselves, lashed out at her and the other women in their lives.

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Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) My earliest memory of toxic masculinity was when I was on my first grade basketball team. We got to pick our jersey numbers. I chose 14 because it was my aunt's number, who was a D1 college player at the time. When I told them this, the coaches laughed at me. Apparently looking up to a non-male athlete was frowned upon, even though none of the coaches made it past high school.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What makes me furious is that THE COACHES laughed. They should be the ones promoting healthy role models!

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At this point, De Dauw thinks it's hard to say whether or not we as a society have contained toxic masculinity. "Once you name a problem, it becomes more visible and you identify more instances of it," she said. "We're also living in an increasingly divided world, where a lot of people feel threatened when problems like this are identified and they feel the need to lash out to prevent our rapidly changing world from changing even more—and that also gives the impression that the problem is growing or getting worse."

"I think that, at the very least, we're identifying, thinking, and talking about things like toxic masculinity and that in and of itself is a good way forward," De Dauw explained.

#6

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) I got raped by an ex. Nearly everyone I've told starts by arguing the toss that it wasn't actually rape.

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Because she thinks the reason toxic masculinity is so embedded is (in part) because of the media, a really hopeful thing for her is that we're seeing more and more push-back against toxic masculinity in media from various audiences. "We are seeing more diverse roles in media, and this includes more diverse ways for men to be men," De Dauw added.

"There are shows that have kind, loving and sensitive men and shows that deal with characters showing these toxic traits and growing past them, [including] Dipper from Gravity Falls when he moves past his crush on Wendy, Soka in Avatar: The Last Airbender when he learns to value women, Captain Picard in the recent Picard series, who has learned to be open and affectionate with the men in his life, and Joel from Santa Clarita Diet who is supportive of his wife and daughter."

#7

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) My favorite color is purple. I've tried to wear purple, and nope, too many dumbass comments.

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How sad. My boyfriend likes to wear pink and purple and nobody says anything and I am so happy for him.

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In Toxic Masculinity: Mapping the Monstrous in Our Heroes, De Dauw wrote that, "When we consider how popular culture and its stories give us a lens through which we can learn to emphasize with and love those different from us, it becomes clear that representation is a promising start, even if it cannot be the whole our strategy to increase equality."

"Another important step is that we need have these conversations with the men in our lives if it is possible and safe for us to do so," she added. "Encourage men to seek support in their communities, to go to therapy if necessary, to learn how to communicate, and to perform emotional labor–we need to consistently understand that there's no one right way to be a man."

#8

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) I always wear seatbelts in cars, but every so often, someone will scoff or poke fun that I put my seatbelt on when we share a cab or an Uber. I don't feel like smashing out my front teeth if the driver gets into a fender bender.

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Matt Hollis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

or killing the driver because you smash into the back of his head if you crash

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In the academic world, the notion of a singular, perfectly-defined masculinity has been rejected since the late 1980s. Led by the sociologist Raewyn Connell, this school of thought positions gender as the product of relations and behaviors, rather than as a fixed set of identities and attributes.

In her work, Connell described multiple masculinities shaped by class, race, culture, sexuality, and other factors, often in competition with one another as to which can claim to be more authentic. In this view, the standards by which a "real man" is defined can vary dramatically across time and place.

Let's hope that some day theory will become practice too.

#9

About five years ago, I feel into a deep depression. I have been wrestling with the problem since I was a teen. I refused to see counselors for years until I snapped. As a man the expectations are to "hang tough". "Real men" don't need counseling was sort drilled into my head because it exhibited weakness. When I became suicidal, I had to leave my job and quite a few people insinuated I was weak. I sought treatment with the help of a psychologist and a counselor. That's when I realized the "manliness" garbage was toxic. I hate sports, cars and bullshit. I spend my time with my awesome wife not weekends with "the boys" ignoring my family. I haven't looked back since.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While you have shed your old "boys" I hope you have gotten some new friends that you can hang with, both with and without your wife.

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#10

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) Oh another one for me is when I grew my hair out. Most guys called me gay and that it looked girly. Yet, I was dating more women than ever during that time because a lot of the women I dated loved the hair. So I guess being straight is gay?

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. I won't generalize all women, but there are more who love long hair than you would expect.

Beth Arriaga
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This reminds me of my son. Instead of sports in high school, he chose to do theatre. Eventually he became the president of the group. Once a bunch of my other son's friends - who all played baseball- were laughing at him and calling him gay. My other son stepped in to defend his brother. He said, 'how many girls are on the field with us? Because he's on stage and in the club with way more girls than you can imagine!' So very true.

Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. Same for ballet dancers. They are always considered gay but they are real players.

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Thomas E S Thomas
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The word Gay, before it was stolen by perverts, meant "a blissful state, happiness." Songs and books carried the word Gay to indicate joy. One of my schoolteachers in the 90s had been named Gay. Another was named F***y (that one always made me laugh). At the end of the Flintstone's cartoon theme, "we'll have a gay old time," doesn't mean that Barney went home with Fred, and Betty didn't go home with Wilma.

Anxiety
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don’t listen to them, we girls love someone with good hair

Noemie Houtekie-N'Da
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Long hair is cool man. Keep it and don't care what the naysayers say

aesthetic.baddie27
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pshh, they're just jealous cause you're on your way to Aquaman hotness.

OCDRobot
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My man has thicker, longer, nicer, and prettier hair than me. It's so beautiful that it's a waste when it's cut short. I wish I had his hair. xD

Darren Lewis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get a lot of women who love my long hair and want to braid it or play with it. And they are well aware I'm not gay!

Elsker
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just WHY must gay be a swear word anyway? Go find something else if you must curse

Meh Man
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

idk its funny me and my friends use it even though half of them are gay

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Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My partner was insulted and called gay or a woman for years because of his long hair. Which is fun because I was insulted and called lesbian for having short hair.

InfectedVoice
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I keep my short now but I had long hair for many years, and yeah when I met my wife she loved it.

Ivana
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my husband and I first started dating I said I thought he should grow his hair out because he had amazing hair. He got all upset saying, "Every girl I have dated told me to cut my hair, I finally cut it and the first girl I date tells me to grow it out." Poor guy. I can't go with him when he gets his hair cut, I can't bare to watch.

Memere
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly don't care how anyone wears their hair - just keep it clean.

Baby Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Literally every guy I've dated/liked has had long hair. It's freaking awesome

Blair Doak
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Going bald is a bitch, the only way to get women then is your wealth.

depressePANcake
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Besides the point but I hate it when people when use gay as an insult

M Kate McCulloch
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husbands hair is 10" longer than mine. I'm a bit jealous actually... He's a database architect...and a musician, fine, there, I said it. He plays really kick ass rock no roll guitar too... and has hair almost to his butt.

Flisey
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My teen son has long hair. His father told him he looked like a girl but when I met him he had long hair. My son now has hair almost to his waist and his father still calls him a girl

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#11

Being harassed by women multiple times and having it dismissed because I'm a man.

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This pisses me off so much. If men harass women we hear all about it but when it is the other way round it gets ignored.

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#12

Apparently guys are absolutely required to like any attention from a girl even if it's invasive as f**k or borderline rapey.

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#13

I work at a grocery store.

I was ringing one day and one of the other register employees was giving this older gentleman a really hard time about wanting a bag to carry his stuff. She said something to the degree of “Come on! You should be able to carry that on your own; you’re a man. You’re supposed to be strong!” The dude had a cane with him. I’m not even sure if she realized what she was saying was demeaning and toxic. I turned around and gave her a WTF look.

She didn’t last too long.

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Doesn’t matter if he was young, old, had a cane or had no cane etc, you don’t just say that s**t.

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#14

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) Men in a group tend to sexualize any and all women

I hate that

Also growing up I got s**t for not knowing about cars, like cause I’m a dude I should have the knowledge of a mechanic

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Wendillon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean...women in a group tend to sexualize men too. You can bet that if we're out for dinner and the waiter is attractive we'll be whispering about his butt.

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#15

I am currently in therapy to unlearn all the toxic behaviours I learned growing up. I learned in my 30s that feelings aren't a burden to be suppressed and ignored.

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troufaki13
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if men have feelings they're gay but if they don't they're insensitive? Did I get it right?

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Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) I remember in high school (I went to an all-boys school), I would go to watch my older sister play hockey, and I’d get made fun of. I never understood what the problem with going to watch a women’s hockey game was, especially one where my older sister was playing.

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#17

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) My old roommate was the definition of toxic masculinity. He told his parents the other night that all other guys who go to the gym are 'betas,' while he is a 'biological alpha' and then proceeded to make fun of out-of-shape people at the gym.

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Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) Lost power during a cold (and wet) spell pre-covid. As the building management guy who also lived in the building, I was tasked to stay on-site for the entire 10 days to coordinate repair efforts while the rest of the residents left for hotels/relatives' places. On the 7th day, I also got food poisoning and spent the day expelling from both ends while taking time in between to meet with contractors. The then girlfriend came home later that evening to see me pale, dehydrated, shivering, and exhausted in bed wearing all of my snow clothes. She asked how I was, I said "rough" and she went on to say how her day was so much worse because of some office drama. After her rant she asked why I didn't go make myself some tea as if I was stupid enough to not consider it.

She was a self-proclaimed feminist but was always blind to my needs.

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#19

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) My mother in law told me to stop whining and "man up", we were new parents and I was working nights. The only thing I said was that I was "tired". It's stuff like that. I'm actually clinically depressed, but I never talk about it because I'm 6'3" and masculine so I'm not allowed to feel sad or tired.

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#20

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) For being straight but exclusively using the gay trainers on Peloton. They are more fun and have better music, sorry not sorry.

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Chris Jones
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They just happen to have good (or the same) taste and be gay, could just as easily have awful taste in music.

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#21

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) Mainly how boys are raised to disregard pain and view emotions as a nuisance to be avoided and stifled. It’s helpful for getting things done but not so good for being mentally healthy.

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Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) When I told someone I was a chef, they told me that career path was for women.

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Shelp
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, how different cultures can be!... Here, in France, a woman would be frowned upon if she wanted to be a chef, because it's a men thing. (From the point of view of someone sexist, of course)

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#23

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) I was expected to be able to chug alcohol and just keep on going. I just can't. I have a low threshold. I can't have like five shots of tequila and go about my business. I'll be a mess.

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James016
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got a lot of grief for going tee total. Oddly enough the people who gave me grief could not give me any reasoning behind what they were saying to me.

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#24

My dad. He's never been wrong about a god damn thing in his life. The solution to a problem he picks is the only solution.

Examples include: lighting fires under our water pipes to thaw them out in cold weather for hours to fix a blockage, setting our house on fire at one point, when it turned out the block was at an elbow that was easily broken loose once mom found it. Another is his insistence on gluing s**t together with silicone to 'fix' vehicles. If I have a bad day, I clearly need a higher dose of antidepressants, as I'm a man and I'm not allowed to have negative emotions. Launching a piece of plastic into my eye breaking open the box of our water valve and it's my fault because I was 'sticking my face in it'

If the man decided he was gonna headbutt his way through a brick wall, he wouldn't stop until his skull broke. He's ridiculous.

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Elizabeth Molloy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You need to stand together as a family and get him out of your life. My mother FINALLY divorced my father when I was 12, and I still suffer from the effects of his toxic behaviour at 51.

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#25

After the final exam, my classmates and I went to a nearby bar to drink our pains away. I ordered a lime Margarita and was mocked by both the males and females that it was a girly drink. Same thing when I ordered a long Island afterwards. (I've now moved to cosmopolitans, since three or four can get me happy drunk, and tastes awesome!)

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

is a Planters Punch a girly drink? I don't care actually, I will still order one :-)

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#26

"Cooking is the woman's job" said to me when I told them I like to cook

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Elizabeth Molloy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

America is a backwards country. No-one anywhere else has said this since the 1960s.

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#27

I grew up in a cowboy town. I saw a guy fall off his horse and break his leg. He refused to be helped off and insisted in getting back on his horse and riding out. There was an ambulance right there.

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#28

For not smoking, drinking or doing drugs.

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#29

Almost everyone I know has at some point ridiculed or bullied me because I don't like or want a car.

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m curious if my brother deals with the same thing. He has no desire to learn to drive or get a car. He is happy walking or catching public transport. he feels that a car is too much of a financial burden and would rather spend his money on other things.

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#30

People trying to use their size to intimidate or invalidate you.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember some trashy scene on MTV, where a big, muscular man (i guess it was a wrestler) took off his shirt and flexed in front of the police desk. They said something like "oh, we now see you're a good man. We are now looking much better for your missing wife than before you took off your shirt. Let me call the mayor so he can raise more people to look for her." I didn't understand back then and still don't.

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#31

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) People would make fun of me for watching certain movies or listening to certain songs, where a woman was singing. It got to a point where I was so self-conscious.

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OpalTheRainwing
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For me I get self conscious when I listen to Fnaf music is I’m scared they will make fun of me cuz it’s a “ scary game for boys “

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#32

I had a picture of my brother and me in my Profile picture with our arms over each other’s shoulders. As a male nurse, some people think you’re gay already but one of my coworkers was sure that having my brother in my profile picture meant that I was gay.

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Roxy Eastland
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Um, okay. I mean it's a stupid definition of gay, but do you care if they think you're gay?

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#33

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) My father felt the need to “pass on” knowledge he learned from his father, unfortunately it was abuse, emotional in my case

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Jessica Nametz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sadly, this can be a toxic circle that people don't even know they are in. It takes a strong individual to recognize the pattern and break free from it.

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#34

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) Every guy is told 'to man up' at some point. I still don’t know what 'manning up' is.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wake up to patriotic songs, start your day with two hours of sport, then proceed to drink half a bottle of whisky for breakfast. You can now vroom your car around until noon, and then eat 2kg of beef for lunch. After that, you'll have to play football with your mates, and once you're done, you can invite them over to watch lesbian porn, or to the strip club. Don't forget to drink a lot of beer! If you've drunk too much of it, you can pee proudly in the middle of the street. Go to sleep at 4AM and get some rest until a new great day begins.

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Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) I grew up in a culture with a lot of toxic masculinity, so it's not easy to get rid of these ideas, like that I am not allowed to be sensitive and submissive to my wife, which I am.

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same here in the Balkans - our culture has been strongly patriarchal for centuries and this oppressive worldview still tries to find its way into contemporary life (under the guise of "patriotism").

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#36

I guess mine isnt so bad but its the constant feeling of not being "man" enough because I dont like sports, cars and because I am not handy at all. I know gender is a social contrust but to always feel like I am "too much of a girl" to be a real man has always affected me.
Also that I am not allowed to be sensitive and submissive. LIke I dont like to take charge in my relationship. My wife is more dominant than me and I love that but it also makes me feel bad because I constantly hear and see that I should be "the man"! I should be the one who makes the big decisions and etc. And because I dont my wife wont really desire me.

I grew up in a culture with a lot of toxic masculinity so its not easy to get rid of these ideas.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you talk about the problem with your wife? Dominant people often have a way to boost your confidence and crush your self-doubts (which is exactly what needs to be done with self-doubts).

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#37

I was labelled gay for years because I would always turn up to parties with a taxi full of girls. Usually left with them too but somehow that made all those guys scared of me

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Ian Koch
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

maybe they just have a lot of girlfriends? (female friends, not the other one.) some toxic people REALLY need to get a grip.

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#38

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) Gay rugby player, apparently only played to touch the guys... f*** that you old fat f***er with a 48inch waist, no I don’t want to touch your micro penis. Oh and here’s a hand off to the face!

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Remi Flynne
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they wanted to pick a sport to touch up the guys surely they'd pick something with even more contact, like wrestling! What a daft notion. Edited to correct a typo!

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#39

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) A girl threw herself at me when I was 14, and I turned her down.

Healthy reaction: I don't really know her, she's my sister's best friend, and I'm just not ready.

Toxic male inspired reaction: Why didn't I just f**k her? What's wrong with me? Am I gay?

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#40

Back when I was in high school, I wasn't beat up for being gay, I was "gay" because I was constantly getting beat up.

Also, I was closer to bi, but with experiences like that behind me, it was simpler to be "straight."

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#41

I was constantly called gay in middle school and high school because I was single, had good hygiene habits, and was generally respectful towards women.

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Doggo Froggo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sssooooo..... not to be gay is to be sexist and disrespectful, filthy and with someone/ multiple people????

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#42

Was at the weight room at high school and all the jocks saw me and they were making fun of me for trying to lift since I was a big boy back then. When I say they were jocks, I mean muscles, tall, and hard-core abs. When I went to lift they kept on saying they couldn't believe I was actually attempting to lift.

I set the high school record of lifting 285lbs. Doing 2 sets of 10 reps.

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#43

Decorating my home I’m a single guy. I enjoy having a really nice looking place to live in. I carefully choose things for my home. I get the occasional remark about it. I don’t let it bother me but hey.

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Bama Belle
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good for you. My gay brother says he didn't get the 'gay decorating gene'. He can style women's hair like a m**o, though.

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#44

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) The coach of our varsity football team was also my biology teacher. When I was 15 and he was a giant of a man, he attacked me and beat me up in the middle of class but because of his position as coach of the football team, all he got was a slap on the wrist. And I got a year of bullying by the entire football team until I moved away a year later.

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#45

My dad would constantly tease me for having a baby doll and for watching My Little Pony. He's really awesome, he just never realized that what he thought of as joking and teasing was actually really hurtful.

In Elementary school, I was made fun of for being weird by a lot of people, and the rest of the people were only nice to me when they needed help with homework. I cried a few times, and was told to man up and deal with it. Again, the teacher who said it was a really great person, he just didn't realize how negative those words were.

So I haven't experienced it much, but when I did, it came from people I looked up to, and who were some of my biggest supporters, which made it hurt a lot more than it would otherwise.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was at the shops one day and there was a woman at the checkout with two boys. They both had a ball each and the youngest had a pink my little pony ball. He put it on the checkout ready to be scanned when the woman picked it up and said you can’t have this, I am not buying you a pink ball. We will come back again another day and you can choose a different one. He was so upset and started crying but that didn’t matter to the woman coz it was still pink.

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#46

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) I paint my nails, and oh boy, the downright ignorant comments I would get from people at work astounded me. Like, why? A-holes.

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#47

Ohhh this is a recent example. I was driving my father home from physical therapy and I was turning left at this intersection. Construction in the intersection forced me to get in the right-most left turn lane and when the light turned green, I went to change lanes but the truck next to me wouldn't let me in the lane. I had to remain in the other lane, unable to go anywhere, and my father screamed at me (not nicely) to "grow some balls". Joke’s on him tho because I already have a pair

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Lucas
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep, getting into accidents because you can't change lanes is very masculine. Not sure dad would be getting a lift from me again if that's how he wants to talk to me.

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#48

Had to go through the Modern Army Combative course. Aside from it being physically difficult, the level of toxic masculinity was off putting. One instructor told us he was so committed to the job, earlier in the year he came home from a deployment and went straight to the gym. It’s like, dude you’re a terrible husband, and a loser.

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Keyy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

loool im positive he didn't mean straight to the gym from the airport .. and he's a loser and terrible husband becasue he likes to workout ?? im lost ..

#49

When someone is bothering my girlfriend and everyone just looks at me to jump in straight away. Like damn I was wanna enjoy my taco, she can definitely fight her own battles sometimes tho

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Doggo Froggo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, it's wrong for both genders - he is expected to fight her battles, her to just sit back and watch

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#50

Got called gay because I hung out with girls ( I just enjoyed hanging with girls more because no male toxicity at the time)

When I was young I used to be super emotional and people would just say I'm a cry baby and males shouldn't act like that etc.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1. If they wanted to have a point they should've called you straight. (They shouldn't call you anything mean to begin with). 2. (Me being a girl) Guys are cool to have as friends because there is less talking behind backs and making big deals about little things. Being able to be comfortable around girls is something that I respect and guys shouldn't pick on you because they aren't.

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#51

I was an expressive, artistic, and cute boy who was different than my two brothers who loved sports. Ultimately, more intellectual. Because my brothers loved sports, they were taken under the wings of my uncles while I was ignored and looked down upon. My uncles even took my childhood best friend who is the same age as me under their wings essentially. Then they took a neighborhood friend under their wing essentially creating an internal dynamic with myself that something was wrong with me and why am I always separated out of the crowd. They would take them to sporting events and other things like that. I tried to play softball and other sports, but always ended up getting embarrassingly hurt because I didn’t have years of experience playing, but put myself out there in a vulnerable place many times over and tried so so so many times to gain some validation from any fatherly figure. The fatherly figures of my brother, best friend, and neighbor. My father was a depressed alcoholic, so I never looked up to him unfortunately. My brothers while growing up were bully’s. As I grew up, I became cynical, more quiet, and became invisible on purpose. I eventually realized I was gay when I hit puberty, but even then, since I was a conscious being, I was singled out by my uncles powered by toxic masculinity.

I’m fine, successful, and thriving, but growing up with only being able to invest, have faith, and learn to trust in myself always has been a blessing and a curse. I didn’t get here without any setbacks or challenges. It would be great if I could get a pat on my back.

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Xenon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, "*I'm* proud of you for overcoming and getting out of there and thriving. Wishing you all the best.

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#52

As much as I hate term 'toxic masculinity', here goes.

I was bullied in elementary school because I was an easy target. As in I wasn't violent and I was different, was bit of a nerd, and didn't care about sports, and so on. And yeah, everything civilized was attempted to stop the bulling, but nothing worked. I was even punished for being bullied because of typical school bureaucracy nonsense such as "bullies can't be changed but you can", and "boys will be boys". One time I was punished for just being in a wrong place and doing nothing when everyone else got away with 0 consequences.

You know what worked? In few situations I've beat the s**t out of bullies, I didn't care about pain, but they did. Also, I'm much stronger than I look, so that's a plus. Every time I would retaliate, bullies would be less eager to attack me. One time I was being picked on by this guy who was like 2 years older and quite taller than me, and when I retaliated, we were separated and he tried to laugh it off. I was never picked on by him again.

But bulling didn't completely stop until I moved to a different class with less violent students. Pretty sad how low state of society is with some things...

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Ian Koch
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow... honestly, to some extent, people who bully others physically (pushing shoving, etc.) deserve MULTIPLE knuckle sandwiches from the person they are bullying.

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#53

People would make fun of me for watching certain movies, or being smaller than everyone else, or wanting to be seen as “cute.” It got to a point where I was so self conscious that I’d be embarrassed listening to a song where a woman was singing.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I read do I understand the concept of being less manly because you listen to songs by female artists, can someone explain this to me; is this an American thing?

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#54

Being made fun of for expressing an emotion other than the two that are allowed. Happy or angry, preferably about sports.

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Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) Being called gay because I work with children!

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#56

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) A redneck fellow student in highschool "joked" about how he should rape me. I was goth, so I guess it's how he'd "show me" for being depressed and wearing makeup to school.

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#57

Growing up being called a flake by my father and not being late like either he ment the other flake....I was destroyed by that ended up trying to prove myself to him..Even joined usmc to prove I wasn't a flake... The Marine corps broke me down and built me back up.. graduating boot camp was the proudest I've ever seen my father..... But inside I'm sad and lonely... I'm a straight Caucasian male who enjoys dancing and dressing to the nines. I just followed the beat to My own drum and my father couldn't understand that.. he ended up disowning me back in 1992... My father died in 2005 and I didn't hear about it until 2015.. what I've discovered is be yourself no matter what whoever says whatever that's on them it's their problem not yours just be who you want to be and just be the best you can be.then you're ended with resentments and resentments are like you taking poison expecting them to die...

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#58

Been pressured into doing things like trying beer because it's "what men do."

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#59

Typical experience growing up.

Hugging or showing affection to my friends (sober as when you're drunk, apparently this is ok?!)

Them: Hey, why are hugging (or showing affection) to your mates (male and female)? Are you gay (males) or are you trying to hit that (females)?

Me: They're my friends, why wouldn't I show them that I care about them?

Them: Dude that's gay or you so want hit that aye?

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#60

Background: my wife is the bossy “Karen” type. Sex is a quick wam-bam most of the time then clean up and go separate ways. Hates to cuddle. Refuses. That sort.

Once I had tears in my eyes during an emotional discussion and she laughed and says “wow you really are the girl in this relationship and I’m more the man! I don’t want to cuddle but you do. You get more emotional.” She said I was more feminine. Even when I lost family members she’s never seen me shed a tear since. Which is hard af during the (original) Mufasa scene... last year I fell and hurt my tailbone. One night I decided to sit in the tub, hot water... she walks and and looks in and laughs “you’re sick a girl!”

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#61

Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) I called a friends dog cute and he said calling something cute was gay.

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#62

I paint my nails and hooooooo boy the amount of sexist, homophobic, and downright ignorant comments I would get from people while at work astounded me. Like, why?

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#63

Being too romantic as a teenager with my dates, and still being virgin in my late teens caused my friends to tease me, and some telling me if I wasn’t man enough. This was a common “peer pressure” at school.

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#64

I'm a fairly good looking guy, I seem to be a type for many. Not that I identify with being handsome, it's just clear people are physically attracted to me more than average.

With that said, I lost count of the amount of time women have made inappropriate remarks, or came on to me in ways that we're well beyond comfortable, and my male colleagues or friends made fun of me when trying to get out of these extremely cringey and awkward situations. Because I was just supposed to go and f**k these women, right?

First world problem, I know.

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#65

Being called soft because I had to meet a therapist for my anxiety.

Tbh I am not aggressive , enthusiastic , carefree guy. I don't know how that makes people to consider me softhearted.

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Caleb Lumpkin
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yea i was told once that i didnt need anger management that i just neede to get my s**t straight. im a aggressive dude when people piss me off and its hard for me not to get mad. so i was pretty much told because i was a dude and i needed to put that s**t aside because im a dude, that i didnt need help. and i still cant get it so now its on them if i get into fights

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#66

My dad told me to keep crying like a girl when I was pissed when he would listen to me.

Context: I was flying a drone that I couldn’t control the direction of. I told him this repetitively and said let’s stop flying it. He didn’t listen and then it flew onto a tree. Then he got pissed at me.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so sorry that happened to you. Your feelings were perfectly acceptable. Your feelings ARE perfectly acceptable.

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#67

I’m told it’s effeminate to rest with one hand on your hip or stick out my pinky finger when grasping a cold drink container. Sadly it’s my wife’s distorted idea of what’s manly, who tells me.

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#68

Everyday I’m baraded by guys spouting bulls**t. Yesterday was about trucks, the day before it was guys calling other guys ‘girls’, day before that some guy was b***hing about clean energy in Texas. Shut the f**k up. Shut the f**k up. No one in the room cares. Don't talk to me about what I should eat, why I shouldn’t do my taxes, why the US is great, why foreign automobiles aren’t good. Shut the f**k up.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The 'foreign automobile argument' is an excellent way to assess the relative intelligence in a room. Especially because those people don't seem to realize how many Honda ,Toyota, Nissan, Subaru, Hyundai, BMW and Kia models are manufactured at US plants (plus a handful of Volkswagen and Volvo cars, as well as Volvo and Hino medium trucks).

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#69

Went to the toilet in a busy pub, cubicle was taken. Waited outside the cubicle because I like my privacy. Some guy decided I was waiting to use the cubicle because I had a small penis.

Thought it was a bit gay that he wanted to know how big my penis was but there you go.

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#70

A literal necklace, my taste in jewelry is where I love gems, and of course when my grandmother died, being a child I saw her black gemmed necklace that looked like a shark tooth necklace but with gems and gold, and I was told no by my father cuz it wasn’t ‘manly’same with a heir style where I had my back bit of hair on top of my head up in a short like tail, and the front just going forward, and i wasn’t allowed to wear it , because it wasn’t manly,

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#71

Growing my hair long and in a ponytail. Get call girlie. When I had it cut on #2 I was told I look like I just got out of prison. Look in mirror and judge yourSELF

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#72

I like listening to KPop and am a big fan of BTS and BlackPink

Apparently as a man I can't listen to a boy or girl group.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

so men can't like KPop and pop music i will have to tell my dad he is actauly a women because men can't listen to harry styles

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Men Are Sharing Examples Of Toxic Masculinity They've Faced In Person (30 Stories) I've spent my first year at college rooming with someone who is the definition of toxic masculinity. Constantly makes irritating noises to prove that he's a "man," such as yawning, moaning, farting, burping, sighing, clearing his throat, and talking annoyingly loudly, all of which he does in a very aggressive manner. He'll also randomly workout in the room at odd hours, and he'll grunt loudly every time he does a pushup. The guy will also stand in front of the mirror, admiring his body that in all honesty isn't even that muscular (what muscle he does have is built by creatine). But the worst thing he does is put other guys down. He told his parents the other night that all other guys who go to the gym are "betas" while he is a "biological alpha." He then proceeded to make fun of out of shape people at the gym (isn't the whole point of the gym to get in good shape?). He's made my life a living hell at school (disregards covid restrictions as well), but the administration makes it extremely difficult to change roommates because "tradition," so I'm stuck with him for the rest of the year.

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#74

Being told I was “gay” or “pussy a** b***h” for the car I drove in high school. Jokes on them; I own a heavily modified Audi SUV now and they still drive the cars their parents bought them.

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#75

I remember in High School (I went to an all-boys school), I would go to watch my older sister play hockey, and I’d get made fun of. I never understood what the problem with going to watch a women’s hockey game was, especially one where my older sister was playing.

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