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jpaul 3 years ago

this is not feminism, this is humanity

1point

Mazer 3 years ago

Spot on

0points

Celeste Grant 3 years ago

I wish this was said more often. I have hobbies that are traditionally home making skills but I don't do them because I have to, I do them because I want too. I've had several people say to me over the years that I'd make a "lovely wife" or ask why I'm not married when I mention my hobbies but I've had women tear me down for it too, telling me that women like me "put back feminism by years" just because I like to bake, or that I only do it because I'm brain washed by the patriarchy; it's not that, I just love baking and making my own curtains!

18points

McSydney 3 years ago

Then you should keep doing those things if they bring you joy

7points

Kay blue 3 years ago

My daughter has always wanted to be a wife and mother, isn't really interested in a career but is working until she has little ones. She made the mistake of saying that to one of her teachers; they spent the last two years of her schooling telling her how wrong it was for her to want that.

8points

Ozacoter 3 years ago

She is perfectly entitled to that and the teachers should be kinder. But she also needs to be aware that being a sahm with no salary puts you in a really dependent position since you dont really have money of your own. Many women cant leave their partners because of this. Its something to be aware off.

6points

Foxxy (The Original) 3 years ago

I get this coz I'm a SAHM that does the cooking and cleaning etc. I don't enjoy it but that is what works for our family. I have had negative comments and people saying my hubby needs to do more etc.

7points

albernistuff 4sale 3 years ago

As long as you feel it is equitable, that is fine. My wife is very busy so I often do the majority of household chores. We discuss the fact that she has guilt pangs over my doing the cooking & cleaning, and I assure her that she should NOT feel that way (result of traditional eastern European family). Yes, I am virtue signalling...but I do my best to be aware I'm an ass-hole

1point

deanna woods 3 years ago

True feminism is respecting every woman's individual journey on this Earth.

4points

CatWoman312 3 years ago

That’s the whole point of feminism…we fight so every woman despite what her lifestyle is, is seen as equal.

4points

MotherRobinson 1 year ago

Why can't I upvote this?

1point

Connie Martin 3 years ago

"I will not trade the tyranny of men for the tyranny of women."

1point

Catherine McClarin 3 years ago

Every feminist I know enjoys cooking and child rearing. They also share the homemaking with the other able-bodied adults in the house. This statement is designed to force a split between women. Don't let it.

1point

denzoren 3 years ago (edited)

As with toxic masculinity...some people go off the rails with it and just end up exactly opposite of where they should be.

1point

Thorfin Wolfsbane 3 years ago

To the MAX!!!

1point

AI_ENTHUSIASM 1 year ago

If people are happy being housewives, let them be.

0points

𝕰𝖑𝖑𝖆 2 years ago

EXACTLY!!! THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING!!

0points

Jessica Aubé 3 years ago

Yes!

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I I 3 years ago

like men who think i'm weird because i ENJOY cooking , no i didn't do anything wrong so i'm cooking to make up , i enjoy seeing my family enjoy my food , it's a great feeling

0points

Alexis 3 years ago

The older I get, the more I enjoy cooking and housekeeping. I am also planning to learn how to knit and crochet so I can make sweaters and scarfs for my partner, our pup, and myself. I also make stuffed animals once in a while. I would love to be a stay-at-home mom if I have a child and can afford to do so. I love providing care to people and animals. My parents have always supported me to be whoever I want to be. If someone said my hobbies are stereotyped gender roles enforced by someone, I would be quite mad.

0points

Iʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 3 years ago

Thank you for letting the world know . I appreciate it .

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Sean Harrison 3 years ago

That's the problem with "modern feminism", its not feminism, it's just misandry (man-hate) in disguise.

0points

lay1fly 3 years ago

Women who GENUINELY enjoy it kudos to them. But there are still many women forced and stuck in that role. And that’s sad

0points

Simzabandz 3 years ago

True feminists empower and respect each other's view, values and ethics!! not judge someone for actually loving what is known as 'old school' and patrairchy!!

0points

kjorn 3 years ago

yes! yes! yes! yes! yes! yes!

0points

Ian Bartels 3 years ago

I love this!! This is exactly how my wife thinks. She is a stay at home mom because she wants to be a stay at home mom.

0points

Raven DeathShade 3 years ago

I love cooking, cleaning, sewing, and child rearing. I also enjoy growing things in gardens and raising fowl. Does this make me someone from Little House on the Prairie?

0points

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Dilly Millandry 3 years ago

Drama queen personality type is not gender specific.

17points

The-Figurehead , Priscilla Du Preez Report

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Branding unattractive guys as “creeps” for the same behaviour that attractive guys get away with and even rewarded for.

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364points

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Rob Woodman 3 years ago

Yup

72points

It’s when a woman assaults a man first and when the man retaliates, the woman acts like she’s the victim saying “you can’t hit a woman”. You hit him first Ma’am. You’re not absolve to any of your wrongdoings just because of your gender

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Rob Woodman 3 years ago

Tell that to the cops.

101points

According to Doyle from Forbes, in the workplace, toxic femininity is akin to passive aggression. “It’s when we allow relationships and productivity to suffer because we’re not being honest about our own objectives, or when we are assuming we know best with a ‘caring’ face. It's being a ‘Karen’ and it's not a step forward from patriarchal systems of control. It might not involve yelling, but it’s still manipulating other people,” she explains.

“The answer to centuries of toxic masculinity is not a new era of toxic femininity, it is leadership and membership behaviors and skills that are, frankly, beyond gender and appropriately contextualized.”

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Thinking men can't be abused by a woman

Few_Cup3452 , Christian Erfurt Report

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308points

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Gurnox 3 years ago

Or thinking other women can't be too

79points

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity “Breast is best” “Women who have C-sections aren’t real mothers” “Real women have curves” “I’m not like other girls” Etc

Kopcalysm Report

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270points

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Ian Reynolds 3 years ago

My wife had a c-section and our daughter and my wife couldn't take to breastfeeding, and people would make comments about how natural birth and breastfeeding makes real bonds. This hurt my wife, caused some early depression and made her worry about the bond with our daughter, but this really has had no impact on their relationship. My wife now gets angry because of the stupidity of the people saying this and the snobbiness of these fools.

176points

YourMothersButtox , Charles Deluvio Report

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity My ex-husband and I separated when our child was 2. Went to a birthday party for daughter's friend and was having a casual conversation with one of the husbands. The group of women stood in a corner staring at me, and the wife came up and grabbed him by the arm and started doing that strange possessive peacock dance.

What were we talking about? Real estate prices.

Final score:

260points

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Foxxy (The Original) 3 years ago

Sounds like the other woman was probably insecure.

138points

Doyle notes that communication and honesty can help move past both toxic femininity and masculinity. “Instead of rescuing, ask people what they would like to have happen and give them the tools to do it themselves. Instead of being a victim, state clearly what you would like to have happen and police your own boundaries. And instead of persecuting, check your assumptions and instead notice the pattern or process that needs fixing, not the people.”

Meanwhile, here’s a refresher about toxic femininity’s partner in crime, toxic masculinity. Psychotherapist Silva Neves told me earlier that toxic masculinity is a general attitude perpetuated by systemic misogyny, as well as a set of distorted ideas about what men should be like.

Some of these ideas include not showing vulnerability, striving to always be winners, and not being weak or soft.

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Probably the whole “I’m not like other girls” thing. What’s wrong with other girls? You can value yourself without [stepping] on others.

Phil_Drill , Allef Vinicius Report

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Nat Hedley 3 years ago

You're unique! Just like everybody else.

95points

Toxic feminism to me is hating ALL men. Not all men are the same. Those kind of girls make it a point to spread that hate and make it a big movement. I understand everyone has had their experiences with men who have hurt them, but to spread such hate and make it their personality?? Not cool.

ajmeraz Report

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245points

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Foxxy (The Original) 3 years ago

100% this.

65points

Calling every single disagreement mansplaining.

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Rob Woodman 3 years ago

Or even a conversation.

61points

“Men with toxic masculinity usually have negative views towards women's rights (including their rights to the freedom of their own sexuality) and they tend to be homophobic,” Silva told Bored Panda.

“A man with healthy masculinity is the opposite to these traits: someone who is self-reflective, embraces their emotions including sadness, anxiety and crying, a man who isn't afraid of their own femininity and believes that women are equal, and therefore are very clear about respecting boundaries and consent with women,” the expert continued.

According to Silva, healthy masculinity means that an individual “embraces gender, sex, and relationship diversities including gay men and transgender people. Someone who is comfortable with their opinions to be challenged and able to have debates.”

#10

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Mother who treat other people [poorly] and then justify it by saying they're a mama bear

zanovar , Kenny Krosky Report

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234points

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Lovin' Life 3 years ago

There is not justification for treating other people bad!

60points

#11

When we s**t all over men and boys, while calling it "Modern Feminism". We don't have to deconstruct and destroy everything masculine just for women to be equal. That is literally the opposite of equality and should be offensive to everyone.

DancingAssClown Report

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222points

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Aliquid A 3 years ago

This is not "Toxic femininity", this is "toxic feminism". Sounds very similar, but different concepts. Other examples on this thread are good, but this slightly misses the mark

13points

#12

Being pressured to have children. Women can be incredibly toxic when they find out that someone made a different choice regarding procreation. Personally I think mothers that hate on childless women regret their choice to have children and lash out at those they secretly envy for their (perceived) freedom.

GreenAppleLady Report

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204points

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El muerto 3 years ago

this is a common behaviour, attacking others that made different choices, because somehow you feel that your choices are being attack, by them...meat eater vs vegetarians(I eat meat myself), childfree vs parents. believers vs non believers...very human, jet very stupid

67points

BringBackRobotWars Report

#13

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Some women are so judgemental about other women, particularly when it comes to looks or fashion.

Also the women who seem to enjoy forming cliques and cutting out anyone they deem to be an outsider.

Worked with an office full of them once. It really sucked!

Final score:

189points

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Carrie Laughs 3 years ago

So glad I have met few like this. Bitchiest person I know is my brother in law,

31points

#14

Harassing/Calling police on fathers(or other legit male caregivers) minding their own business bringing their kids to a public park.

Washjockey Report

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173points

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Premislaus de Colo 3 years ago

OMG I can soooo relate to that being a single dad to two daughters... I understand and appreciate social awareness and so on, but single mum with two sons will not meet with the problems I deal with. And honestly, people who think it's shady for a guy to live alone with two teen daughters are real pervs. I mean s**t, they're my kids, what's in your head? This is not solely a toxic feminity thoug, applies to men as well.

18points

#15

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity "If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best"

Sorry - that's not how life works.

badlilbadlandabad , Alex Iby Report

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169points

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Jayne Kyra 3 years ago

This is unrelated, but I like the picture.

47points

#16

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Probably the culture around eating.

When I was 17-18, a few friends kept saying how much more attractive I’d be if I lost weight, how that’s why most guys weren’t into me, how I’d regret not being skinny in college, etc. My BMI was slightly under 25, so I wasn’t overweight, but I was close to it, especially compared to them.

So I basically became anorexic from 18-20 just because the feedback was like a high. I recovered, but not enough to make my mom and others happy, even though my BMI was 22-23. This continued for years between friends and family, and it was exhausting cycling between being too skinny or not average enough.

That’s really the only strong example I can think of. No matter the trendy body shape, the criticism from others will always continue. I’ve only had one guy ever comment on my weight compared to the many, many women, even strangers

Screaming_Weak , Louis Hansel Report

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Carrie Laughs 3 years ago

Funny, only people who have commented on my weight recently were men. Wrong whoever does it.

47points

#17

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity A girl in the grade below me (I’m a senior in high school at this point) passed away unexpectedly due to sepsis. Our whole city was in shock as the girl was in the school just days before her passing.

I remember I met up with my gf at the time & she asked, “Why do so many people care about her dying? It’s not like she was pretty anyways.”

This was the type of girl that says, “What??!! I am SOOO nice.”

Safe to say, the lord blessed me with a brain and I GTFO’D that relationship.

To this day, she is still in contact with me & recently she complained that guys use her & she can’t figure out why nobody will be with her.

Well honey, I don’t think it takes a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

Susealao9 Report

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157points

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Foxxy (The Original) 3 years ago (edited)

That's just f****d up. Guess I shouldn't expect anyone to care when I die then coz I am far from pretty lol. Such a stupid thing to say.

62points

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#18

Putting other women down for liking girly things and not wanting to be CEOs etc.

Ages ago a woman I knew commented on an news article about women who love to wear mermaid tails and go swimming with it. She said women should aim to be CEOs and not mermaids.

I happened to have one of those tails and love mermaids. I’m 37 now and still do! Doesn’t mean I am stupid or aim low. I don’t want to be a CEO, it’s not who I am.

Final score:

157points

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Foxxy (The Original) 3 years ago

If I had a choice i would definitely choose to be a mermaid.

84points

#19

The divorce playbook. First you kick your husband out of his own house. Then you go to a judge and claim that you are afraid of you spouse and get a PFA. Then you go to family court as the poor helpless woman and take every dime he has then s**t talk him to his own kids. Mine was more amicable than that but I have seen it happen to more than one guy.

dainbramaged1982 Report

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154points

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Draperdorf 3 years ago

I've no doubt that this is something that some spiteful and resentful women do. However, I'm also aware that narcissistic abusers (of either gender) will also say this exact same thing when they are actually the one in the wrong, as that it basically their MO. Having been through a couple of victim survivor programmes for abused women myself, I've seen far too many wonderful, abuse-survivors being slated like this by their exes. Women who are like this post also make it worse for those who aren't but are being portrayed as being so by their abusers. Hope I make sense

120points

#20

The kind of lady that believes a man needs to be a provider is toxic. Also women that look down on men that are shorter than them are toxic af.

12ButtsAtOnce Report

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141points

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Vasana Phong 3 years ago (edited)

Yep, I’m the breadwinner in my household due to my husband’s physical disability, woman that think like this brings us back a hundred years

53points

#21

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Being shamed for natural functions. I know men do it too (to an extent) but women are more likely, I feel, to judge body hair, wrinkles, grey hairs, etc.

DORIMEalbedo , Natasha Brazil Report

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140points

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Foxxy (The Original) 3 years ago

Add burping, farting, even doing poops. Yes women poop, shocking, I know.

116points

#22

As a woman, I have absolutely zero respect for women who use their femininity to get men to do their job for them. The "oh no! I don't know how to do this, can you do it for me" women I have seen at work are pathetic. Even more pathetic are the men who think stepping in and doing a simple task for a lazy female coworker will actually get them anywhere.

quincess Report

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132points

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Kate Fei 3 years ago

I think this goes for both genders. My husband tries this with cooking ("oh but I dont know how to cook that" / "but you are better at cooking anyway"). Or when he does something he does it badly so I want to do it myself next time (i.e. cleaning).

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#23

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity I'm a lesbian and I've had plenty of straight women react to this with complete puzzlement. Have I ever TRIED having a boyfriend? Who fixes things around my apartment when they break? Who kills bugs? You know, there ARE good guys out there...

scm96 , Norbu GYACHUNG Report

Final score:

130points

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Valisbourne Spiritforge 3 years ago

This comment kills me and I'm not gay. The "Have you ever TRIED XXXX" bit. To me, that's the same as asking if I've ever tried dating a guy to know if I was gay or not.

16points

#24

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity I’ve got a quote from an ex.

“My girlfriend Sandra got a 2 carat diamond ring if I don’t get at least a 4 carat ring I’m literally going to die.”

wrongplug , zelle duda Report

Final score:

127points

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Andrew Gibb 3 years ago

This is what 4 carrots looks like to me and most men. 4-carrots-...04e6bc.jpg

58points

#25

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Double standards in dating. I hear this a lot personally with my mother,

But if her boyfriend goes somewhere without telling her she freaks out and throws a tantrum (yes, literally). Yet if he asks anything about her then he's a douche trying to control her and cheating.

Funnily enough, my mother has been exposed for cheating twice now. Along with her f**k s**t friend.

Vampawa , René Ranisch Report

Final score:

121points

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Foxxy (The Original) 3 years ago

Both my hubby and I let/ask each other if or where we are going out of respect, not control. All I ask is the latest he will be home, so if he isn't home by that time I should start to worry and vice versa. Also to make sure neither of us had already made other plans.

70points

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#26

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity The sheer terrifying glee they have at tearing down someone who's made a mistake or is somehow lacking in their eyes. I worked at a doctor's office with a fifty person staff, forty five of which were women. Like they were so fake and catty and just outright hateful to each other. It was a toxic office culture.

Fremenade , Adam Winger Report

Final score:

112points

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Debbie Barnes 3 years ago

I've experienced this too, but what they don't realize is that if they're talking about others with such spitefulness, what's to say they won't be the next one on the 'we dislike list'..

23points

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#27

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Being a “bad b***h”. You’re just being an a-hole. Idk if there’s a moniker like that for guys but guys do it too, labeling yourself doesn’t excuse being a jerk

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103points

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Jon S. 3 years ago

I think a self described 'alpha,' 'born asshole' or 'player' would be the male equivalents.

2points

#28

Women shaming women for not wearing makeup.

Minorihaaku Report

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102points

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Lisa Renfrum 3 years ago

Or the opposite.

68points

#29

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Body-shaming, whether overweight or underweight.

I had an old classmate who called me anorexic for a year straight, anytime I tried to stand up for myself I was the bad guy because ‘she just wants to be as thin as you’. I was 21kg at twelve and her calling me anorexic killed.

B***hgotbitten , i yunmai Report

Final score:

100points

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Nice cuppa tea 3 years ago

21 kg at twelve IS seriously underweight

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#30

Destroying personal property "Cause he done did me wrong!!!" and thinking they are going to get away with it, "women's intuition", and pretty much every custody case ever.

genmischief Report

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87points

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Jon S. 3 years ago (edited)

I find a small but hardcore of women vastly overestimate their "women's intuition" and think they have a full handle on everyone's state of mind and motives. It often turns out they make completely the wrong assumptions about a situation on very little information. I think this particularly applies to women as popular culture suggests women should all naturally be psychologists, when in reality a proportion are as clueless as the average man.

14points

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#31

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity To me it would mean women who bag on other women for womaning differently than they do.

This becomes really toxic after child birth. Some women will feel nothing about letting you know how you are parenting wrong by using this product or letting you child do this particular thing.

Women who are able to stay at home will be made to feel guilty for not helping to provide; and women who work are made to feel guilty for abandoning their child.

I wish women were more understanding about dealing with differences and letting things slide a bit more. You should never feel higher after putting someone else down.

That being said, I don’t know how we did it, but I found the worlds greatest group of moms when my son was a year and a half old. We came from all walks of life and supported the ever loving hell out of each other. This was in Phoenix late 90’s and we were completely tight until I moved away when my son was 5. I miss all of em.

echano2340 Report

Final score:

43points

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Mystery Egg 3 years ago

womaning? What does that mean?

0points

Woman Moves Out Of Parents' Home After They Asked Her To Give Her Space To Brother, They Freak Out

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#32

Manipulating a man to get him to emotionally react.

tensigh Report

Final score:

39points

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El muerto 3 years ago

a belittle the emotion that comes out, because, is not as bad as theirs...

5points

#33

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity Assaulting people because "I'm a whamen and you can't hit back"

TheSpitfire93 , engin akyurt Report

Final score:

37points

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Foxxy (The Original) 3 years ago (edited)

I have a rule, if you can dish it, then you can take it. If a woman hits a man then don't be surprised if the man hits you back. Better yet, don't hit at all.

27points

#34

Mom shaming is pretty toxic

GalaxyPrincesa Report

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37points

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#35

Women thinking that masculinity is for them to define.

jeff_the_nurse Report

Final score:

36points

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El muerto 3 years ago

one thing that is f****d upp. is that, the definition of femininity has change a lot faster than that masculinity. woman have expand what femininity is, while masculinity is still very narrow...many centuries of bullshit that needs to change, but that is something that men need to do. and what comes out, shouldn't be what woman wants, but somethings that's better for everybody.

6points

#36

There's just a ton of shaming everywhere, especially online. 'You’re planning on not medicating? God, you’re not getting a medal. You’re medicating? Wow, you’re so weak. You’re not breastfeeding? What, are you abusing your child?! You’re breastfeeding? Do you spit on moms who can’t?! You’re going back to work? What’s wrong with you? Don’t you love your child?

Darkovika Report

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34points

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Nat Hedley 3 years ago

Yep! It's like it's not even about what these people believe, it's just them looking for a reason to criticise someone else to feel superior.

10points

Woman Refuses To Chip In For Babysitting Because She Doesn’t Even Have Kids, Asks If She’s A Jerk

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#37

You’ve Already Heard Of Toxic Masculinity, But Here're 30 Examples Of Toxic Femininity "Life is short girl, cheat on him"

InboxWarrior , alex starnes Report

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33points

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Foxxy (The Original) 3 years ago

Nope, nope, nope. Wrong on all levels.

19points

#38

Not letting their son's express themselves, even if playing with dolls as a kid (doesn't make them gay). The amount of times I've heard women s**t on their son's that they need to be tough to stop crying.

Telling other women how to act and claiming to be feminist. Feminism is the choice to be who you are without judgement.

Women who tell other women they are lesser for having multiple sex partners (including sex workers).

cat_lord2019 Report

Final score:

32points

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Irina Deneva-Slav 3 years ago

It is a fact often forgotten that many (perhaps most) toxic males were raised in households containing a.. yes, a mother.

14points

#39

since toxic masculinity is pretty much saying that the "right" way to be a man is to be manly, I think toxic femininity is kind of the same in that it has to do with acting like certain ways of being a woman are "superior" to others. like how many so-called feminists will shame women for choosing to be housewives even if those women enjoy being family-oriented, or how many mothers will shame other women for refusing to have children/get married even if those women are content on their own. or you know, when girls are like "I'm not like other girls!1!" as if that makes them better than other girls. I think what makes masculinity or femininity toxic is just when people start acting like there is one "right" or "better" way of being a man or a woman when in reality everyone is valid.

Strict_Lab3333 Report

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28points

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Glirpy 3 years ago

I would much rather be a “housedad” than have to go to a job every day. However, I don’t want kids either, so that would just make me a bum :)

2points

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#40

Watch any "the real housewives" type show. Mainly involves gossiping, grouping up against an individual, cancel culture, reputation destruction, phoney empathy and weaponized toxic empathy to justify attacks on a "bad person" etc

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Final score:

26points

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Carrie Laughs 3 years ago

Glad I've never watched one of those then.

10points

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les 3 years ago

The one that really bugs me is womens magazines. They complain about men objectifying women on opinion and letters pages etc then spend the rest of the magazine objectifying hunks in trunks or some similar shite.

24points

Dilly Millandry 3 years ago

People do it on here. Get photos of a man talking about something he's an expert in and coincidentally he's attractive and you can guarantee there is a string of 'he's hot' type remarks. Or even just the 'so pretty' comments in the 'random genetics/unique looks' article up today. Maybe they are but that's not what it's about. Humans are very 'looks' focused. It's a shame but I don't think it's stopping any time soon!

5points

John Baker 3 years ago

Yep. The very essence of hypocrisy.

1point

Si 3 years ago

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Natalie Kudryashova 3 years ago

Most of these aren’t specifically toxic femininity, just generally being a jerk.

19points

J. F. 3 years ago

Same case for toxic mascullinity - it's just the jerks doing such things

22points

Hel-B 3 years ago

Couldn’t you say the same about toxic masculinity then?

1point

Doubleheader 3 years ago

A lot of these examples listed in the article exist due to our patriarchal system. An example being the divorce bit. Why is it that women are favored more in divorce hearings? Because the narrative of women being the mothers and the care givers are so etched into our minds that it creates a heavy bias.

0points

Aliquid A 3 years ago

I would say it is about 50/50.

-1point

Biljana Malesevic 3 years ago

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Aliquid A 3 years ago

Some of these are great examples, and some of them suck. An important thing to remember about "toxic femininity" and "toxic masculinity", is that these are NOT just about people who are jerks who happen to be male or female. The terms are about behavior that is considered by society stereotypically "feminine" or "masculine", but taken to an unhealthy level. Also, some of these examples are about aggressive feminists... which is also a different thing (they typically and purposely don't fit the cultural expectation of being feminine at all)

16points

Ripley Dog 3 years ago

Yeah, I noticed most of these are just "stereotypical bad things some women do but I'm going to call it toxic femininity because I have zero idea what I'm talking about." Absolutely infuriating to watch people continue to conflate feminism with "man hating." I think BP was just forced to do this post because every article about women is drowning in "NOT ALL MEN!" "WHAT ABOUT TOXIC FEMININITY" and the like.

7points

Premislaus de Colo 3 years ago

How about this, a friend's girlfriend decided that her being on the pill is better than his wearing a condom. Tricks him by not taking the pills, gets pregnant, because she always wanted a baby even though my friend said he doesn't want kids and she said the same in the beginning. He gets mad, they split up, he has to pay alimony for the kid.

11points

New Prometheus 3 years ago

Men should always wear condom if they don't want children. Always.

19points

Katie Lutesinger 3 years ago

That is so f****d up and manipulative. Poor guy.

4points

Ben Moss 3 years ago

A horrible, horrible woman tried to do the same thing to me. Thank god the pregnancy was problematic and she had to get an abortion but I will never forgive that f*****g monster

1point

Sanne H. 3 years ago

If only there was a law or vaccine or anything that could prevent self-centered people like this from having kids…. 😥

0points

Øivind Johannessen 3 years ago

That is a form of sexual assault/abuse called reproductive coersion.

0points

Karen Wenzel 3 years ago

child support. alimony is from divorce

0points

Mordecai Israel 3 years ago

I had something similar to that happen.. Except it was during the act. The girl forced me down when I was about to climax because I refused to finish in her. She ended up getting pregnant. I dragged her to the clinic and fixed that problem right quick.

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Lauren Caswell 3 years ago

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keepgoing 3 years ago

The whole world has gone nuts and it is all amplified with social media. Everyone saying what they think whenever they want. Most of the stuff is total garbage anyway, like don't people have better things to do? The thing that gets me the most is people, who claim to stand pro feminism, anti racisim etc etc go and then do EXACTLY THE THING THEY ARE FIGHTING AGAINST: Hate on men, hate on people of opposite colours etc. Double standards. It doesn't give you the right to be a mong

8points

keepgoing 3 years ago

Being a feminist, e.g., doesn't mean you have the right to bash all men...and I am a woman just fyi.

8points

Aiden Brough 3 years ago

I will never understand this need to place meaning onto something then re-package it back into a generalisation which 'neatly' fits a sterotype to denegrate a group. For example, a man explains something to a woman is frowned upon. An older person is automatically a boomer. Women who wear trainers are somehow different to women who wear stilletoes (no idea why). And so on. Why? Because the internet (and the media) says so and now it's become a polarising norm. Seriously... When did humans stopped to think that they are creating the 'pink & blues' of the future? I keep reading about equality (excellent!!!) and then about why aren't we striving for more categories! (eh?) We're spending more time on this planet making up new ways to destroy ourselves and others than realising that we're only here for a finite length of time... We should be light-hearted laughing at how differences instead of sneering at them... Because one day we won't have either option.

7points

Luca Giordano 3 years ago

well said !

2points

ivan bolitekurac 3 years ago

I miss the times when bp was about art and beautiful things from the world.Now we see woke bs everyday

5points

AI_ENTHUSIASM 1 year ago

Same bro. Same.

0points

Ozacoter 3 years ago

One thing that I am surprised that was not mentioned is the sexist idea that still exists that most men dont want to marry/have kids but that a woman has the final saying about it. No. It needs to be 50-50. I know a man who didnt want children but his wife gave him an ultimatum. They had one (also with health issues) and he was suffering because he has some mental illness and having a kid at home was too much. Despite that she insisted on having a second child; not only risking that the baby had also health issues but not caring for her husbands desires and mental health. And on top of that demanded that both kids slept with them every night so he had no rest at all. He ended up having a meltdown and spending some time in a institution. She is a terrible person.

5points

J. Normal 3 years ago

Was this not discussed BEFORE marriage? I know we waited longer than most - but before we got married we knew what we wanted in life and shared it with each other. where we wanted to live to how many kids ( that was changed by health).

3points

Demi Zwaan 3 years ago

He's also a stupid pushover for agreeing to it. Stand your ground, walk away if you have to, but why give in? Especially on something so big as MAKING A HUMAN BEING.

1point

New Prometheus 3 years ago

Why didn't the man take control of his own life and leave before children were made?

-2points

Leo Domitrix 3 years ago

Proving once again that being an utter a** wipe doesn't depend on your gender. We know. Toxic is toxic. Few of these can be specifically tagged to "just women" or "just men" (in other BP posts). Possessive, controlling, abusive, narcissistic, etc..

4points

Aliquid A 3 years ago

Toxic masculinity/femininity is not and should not about "just men" or "just women". It is not about "people being an a** wipe". It is about masculinity and femininity. It is about stopping cultural expectations and social acceptance of what is considered "masculine" or "feminine". Technically a tom-boy could easily express "toxic masculinity", and a man could express "toxic femininity". TEACHING a boy to "man up" and repress his emotions is toxic masculinity, and then he grows up with behavior problems because of that. TEACHING a girl to be obsesses with her looks and weight is toxic femininity, and then she grows up to have issues because of that.

6points

Donny Cromwell 3 years ago

When a feminist says that a man who won't date a bigger girl are @55holes but then turn around and say they won't date a shorter man.

2points

Ripley Dog 3 years ago

I'm gonna get hate for this, but very few things in this list could qualify as "toxic femininity." What makes Toxic Masculinity "a thing" is that traits that are typically seen as desirable in men are harmful to them and others. It is not seen as a positive "feminine" specific trait to be a "man hater." Not expressing emotions is a toxic "masculine" trait that hurts men while continuing to be seen as positive. These two things are not the same. This entire list just reads as a bitchfest from people who understand neither Toxic Masculinity or false equivallency arguments. Also, feminism has nothing to do with hating men and people who whine about that don't understand it and are usually the kinds of people that make some women hate men (e.g. my sister's ex who cheated on her called me that because I told him to wash his dishes). I realize this comment is probably going to be poorly received, but this article is mislabeled at best, and damaging at worst. Gag.

2points

New Prometheus 3 years ago

Thank you, well put! These things are really hard to grasp for so many people. Hopefully your comment helped some.

0points

Aroace tiger (any pronouns) 3 years ago

Just do what makes you happy without shitting on others!

2points

Karen Wenzel 3 years ago

people who won't acknowledge their own issues but demand apologies for perceived slights not even coming out and saying it, but dropping "hints" like I don't know you are saying it to me. I don't play games like that.

1point

Grimhild 3 years ago

Good examples of toxic human beings. I hate to see so many people invalidate another person on supposed societal norms and BS that people put up with because they are too cowardly to stand up to them.

1point

RoseTheMad 3 years ago

Gender stereotype - if a girl wants to be more masculine it's "good for her, she's an independent woman she needs no man! what a badass!" But if a man wants to be more feminine? "Oh no, he must be gay, how pathetic" like seriously can this gender stereotyping and toxicity just f**k off?

1point

Leo Domitrix 3 years ago

Um.... I'm a tomboy, even at my age, and what I got was a lot of "you must be a lesbian (ruder words used)" or "you must be confused about your identity (but ruder version)" and the "girly girls" in pink/etc. were *horrible* to me. So, no, it's not that way for all of us.

2points

Sojourner 1 year ago

Why is being a Karen not on this list?

0points

Monica Pryts 3 years ago

Yes, major abdominal surgery, especially when it's emergency surgery, is so easy.

0points

SpookyUnicorn 3 years ago

Its a little bit interesting how many comments on here say its only men whining or complaining when some of these examples are very much from another woman's perspective (also ones I could relate to)

0points

Vanta Black 3 years ago

Talk less, sleep more. That goes for everyone, not just people who perpetuate toxic behaviour.

0points

Lizz Lor 3 years ago

This entire article, procured by a man, has almost nothing to do with toxic feminism. BP, if you're going to have a man explain a women's issue maybe make sure he understands it enough to not create an anti-women article instead. Nearly every item.on this list was anti-woman. Really missed the mark on this one.

0points

Caitlyn Moran 3 years ago

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jk nbt 3 years ago

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ilikeplants 3 years ago

Almost this entire list sounds like men complaining about women who were mean to them.

0points

J F 3 years ago

This isn't "toxic femininity". None of these are things women are forced into doing to "prove their womanliness", unlike toxic masculinity.

0points

Daniel Marsh 3 years ago (edited)

In my experience, there are (1) nice guys, (2) players, (3) a small number of the sort of "nice guys" the internet complains about because they aren't really nice guys but think acting nice with entitle them to sex, and (4) a few players whose game is to act like nice guys. A "player," here means someone who thinks that the pursuit of sex means all rules of decency, kindness, honesty, and caring about other people go out the window. They each know who they are (except maybe some "nice" guys). What I find shocking is the number of women who think of themselves as good, decent, even devoutly Christian women who lack any sense of empathy, decency, fairness or honesty in dealing with men. I;m often horrified at the way women treat my nice-but-not-'"nice" friends. It's why I tend to defend "I'm not like other women" women, because I've made friends with women (and eventually married one) who were also stunned at the behavior of other women.

0points

Angela Jester 3 years ago

A lot of this seems like what those people don't like about women, not so much toxic femininity. Some of it is social customs, and some of it is social scripting. It will take time for those last two to change, as society itself and roles are redefined going forward. But they are beginning to change as the definition of femininity and what it means to be a woman changes.

0points

Pearl 3 years ago

Its very reassuring how people who have divided opinions on social issues can all come together on cute animal posts. We may have different opinions on social issues, but everyone loves cute animals!

0points

Carol Emory 3 years ago

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0points

Brian Early 3 years ago

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0points

Lauren Caswell 3 years ago

"why are we expected to be awed when someone with breasts does it?": because the system is stacked against them and they made it anyway. I get it, saying women are better than men is misandry, yes. But pretending females aren't discriminated against is just silly.

0points

Zak Rasten 3 years ago

Practise right thought, right speech, right action and right mindfulness. Be mindful to not cause suffering or be the cause of suffering, always. Then the world will be a happier place and most of this type of crap won't happen

0points

John Baker 3 years ago

George Orwell would be proud...

0points

Leslie Burleson 3 years ago

Who makes this bull doody up? This is just another post aimed at making people fight each other .

-1point

Kimberley McMillan 3 years ago

Scrolled down to the bottom to see who put this together. I think I'll take this with a huge grain of salt, Jonas.

-1point

sofacushionfort 3 years ago

Having evolved as scavengers,Primates instinctively seek to acquire resources and status far beyond their needs. This explains a lot of bad behaviors

-1point

Leo Domitrix 3 years ago

And yet we have a frontal cortex capable of better, so we don't get the excuse the chimps do.

2points

Katherine Boag 3 years ago

Some random sexism/deliberately misunderstanding feminism sneaking in here

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iblowsheep 3 years ago

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Aliquid A 3 years ago

This isn't about "women's toxic behavior" it is about "toxic femininity". Sounds the same, but there is a difference.

5points

Biljana Malesevic 3 years ago

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Mewton’s Third Paw 3 years ago

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elSti 3 years ago

ah the good old incelshaming. the female variant of slutshaming. this post surely brought out & triggered some nice specimen. (off course now somebody will start to mention incels is a self chosen name, but guess what, nobody here is calling himself an incel.)

0points

Shon 3 years ago

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John Baker 3 years ago

Oh, f**k you. Men get dumped on here ten times as often as women.

14points

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les 3 years ago

24points

Dilly Millandry 3 years ago

5points

John Baker 3 years ago

Yep. The very essence of hypocrisy.

1point

Si 3 years ago

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Natalie Kudryashova 3 years ago

Most of these aren’t specifically toxic femininity, just generally being a jerk.

19points

J. F. 3 years ago

Same case for toxic mascullinity - it's just the jerks doing such things

22points

Hel-B 3 years ago

Couldn’t you say the same about toxic masculinity then?

1point

Doubleheader 3 years ago

0points

Aliquid A 3 years ago

I would say it is about 50/50.

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Biljana Malesevic 3 years ago

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Aliquid A 3 years ago

16points

Ripley Dog 3 years ago

7points

Premislaus de Colo 3 years ago

11points

New Prometheus 3 years ago

Men should always wear condom if they don't want children. Always.

19points

Katie Lutesinger 3 years ago

That is so f****d up and manipulative. Poor guy.

4points

Ben Moss 3 years ago

A horrible, horrible woman tried to do the same thing to me. Thank god the pregnancy was problematic and she had to get an abortion but I will never forgive that f*****g monster

1point

Sanne H. 3 years ago

If only there was a law or vaccine or anything that could prevent self-centered people like this from having kids…. 😥

0points

Øivind Johannessen 3 years ago

That is a form of sexual assault/abuse called reproductive coersion.

0points

Karen Wenzel 3 years ago

child support. alimony is from divorce

0points

Mordecai Israel 3 years ago

-1point

Lauren Caswell 3 years ago

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keepgoing 3 years ago

8points

keepgoing 3 years ago

Being a feminist, e.g., doesn't mean you have the right to bash all men...and I am a woman just fyi.

8points

Aiden Brough 3 years ago

7points

Luca Giordano 3 years ago

well said !

2points

ivan bolitekurac 3 years ago

I miss the times when bp was about art and beautiful things from the world.Now we see woke bs everyday

5points

AI_ENTHUSIASM 1 year ago

Same bro. Same.

0points

Ozacoter 3 years ago

5points

J. Normal 3 years ago

3points

Demi Zwaan 3 years ago

He's also a stupid pushover for agreeing to it. Stand your ground, walk away if you have to, but why give in? Especially on something so big as MAKING A HUMAN BEING.

1point

New Prometheus 3 years ago

Why didn't the man take control of his own life and leave before children were made?

-2points

Leo Domitrix 3 years ago

4points

Aliquid A 3 years ago

6points

Donny Cromwell 3 years ago

When a feminist says that a man who won't date a bigger girl are @55holes but then turn around and say they won't date a shorter man.

2points

Ripley Dog 3 years ago

2points

New Prometheus 3 years ago

Thank you, well put! These things are really hard to grasp for so many people. Hopefully your comment helped some.

0points

Aroace tiger (any pronouns) 3 years ago

Just do what makes you happy without shitting on others!

2points

Karen Wenzel 3 years ago

1point

Grimhild 3 years ago

1point

RoseTheMad 3 years ago

1point

Leo Domitrix 3 years ago

2points