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Three decades after the release of the bestseller 'Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus,' the debate over how and why men and women are different from each other and what that means for their roles in society is far from settled.

However, a survey by the Pew Research Center found that majorities of Americans say they are different in their physical abilities, their personal interests, their approach to parenting, and the way they express their feelings.

Reddit user u/Diligent-Log6805 decided to explore the relationship between these two sexes from a male perspective and made a post on the platform, asking: "Guys, what do women do that give you the ick?" Immediately, the answers started pouring in.

#1

"The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Denigrating and emasculating men who show emotions. It's honestly one of the most f****d up things anyone can do to another person.

Also, using a man's kids as pawns in disputes, like cutting off visitation because you're mad at him. Don't f*****g do that, it's just cruel to the kids.

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Joey Marlin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The last point is sadly very common - SIL is a family lawyer and this is a trick that is used in the guise of 'doing the best for my children' when the majority of the time it's patently the opposite.

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We got in touch with u/Diligent-Log6805 and the Redditor agreed to have a chat with us about his post.

"Just before I asked that question, [I was talking to someone] about a relative who's had a series of failed relationships and we were wondering whether she or her boyfriends were the problem. So I went to Reddit to ask," he told Bored Panda.

And the discussion took off. It now has 18.8K upvotes and 13.5K comments.

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    #2

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Refer to themselves as a boss b***h, queen, princess, or baddie.

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    Johnny Helfridge
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the female equivalent of a dude calling themselves an "Alpha Male". Instant red flag.

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    When asked about any topics that stood out to him in the thread, u/Diligent-Log6805 said, "There seemed to be a pattern where guys feel like women give nonverbal cues and expect men to correctly interpret those cues instead of clearly saying what's on their minds."

    "This leads to a lot of miscommunication."

    #4

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys The f*****g testing.

    I appreciate that you have been in previous relationships where someone lied and/or cheated on you but don't spend your entire single life trying to catch me in some lie so you can have your self fulfilling prophecy that all men are liars.

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    Mike Hunt
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And expecting, expecting nice things to be said or done...cant get mad when you don't get or hear nice things...and if you don't like it then leave, that person isn't nice!

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    #5

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Duckface. It’s 2023. Duckface was cringe 15 years ago but some women are STILL doing it.

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    Eva Kašu
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I´m a straight woman and i find duckface and every other stupid ´cute´ grimace women (and men too!) do on photos/social media as massive cringe.

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    "Personally, I think communication is key to harmonious relationships between men and women, especially when there's a disagreement," u/Diligent-Log6805 added. "Basically, try to at least talk and let each other know how you feel about something."

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    "Lastly a little empathy and patience goes a long way in fostering harmonious interactions between men and women."

    #6

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys When they think a toxic trait of theirs is cute/quirky. There's a big difference between being blunt in a respectful way and being a b***h.

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    Monday
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Yeah I steal change from homeless people! I'm quirky like that!" *insert childish giggle sound*

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    #8

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys In Scotland. Obvious fake tan and over done makeup. You're in f*****g Glasgow not madrid

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    #9

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys This girl said 'sowwie' to me trying to be cute, and I instantly lost interest in her.

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    Yepper OPinTex
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh I thought it was calling a pig - that's funny. Speaking like a toddler not funny

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    #10

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Loudly empathizing with every cause and group on the planet but treating people in their personal lives like trash.

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    lenka
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not a girl ick, this is a human ick. Same goes for "cherry picking" social issues i.e. caring about housing affordability for the middle class but not giving a s**t about homelessness.

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    #11

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Littering, Wasting food, Being very materialistic

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    To get around these barriers and allow men and women foster harmonious relationships, u/Diligent-Log6805, who is a husband and a father himself, believes that communication is key. Especially when there's a disagreement.

    "Basically, try to at least talk and let each other know how you feel about something. [Also,] a little empathy and patience go a long way," he added.

    #12

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys If they act entitled, no one wants to be drained like that

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    Feathered Dinosaur
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These entitled people most often turn out to be narcissists. And you better keep them as far away from you as possible

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    #13

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys silent treatment, I've hated it for the longest time, when you do something wrong and you try to apologize and they say nothing is even worse, just hurtful.

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    Michael P (Perthaussieguy)
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Guy, "So, what did I say/do wrong to upset you?" Either *silence* or "If you don't know, I'm not going to tell you"

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    That's true. While all relationships are different and each one has its own unique ups and downs, being able to talk to your partner means that you'll be able to share your worries, show support for one another, and work together to handle conflict more effectively.

    According to Dr. John Gottman, a clinical psychologist and founder of the Gottman Institute, a couple's communication pattern can even predict how successful a relationship will be.

    This can also translate to our overall well-being. For example, one study found that when people feel that their partner values them, they are more likely to sleep better.

    #14

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Be super clingy, not have a life outside of the relationship, and baby talk when trying to be cute.

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yikes, do they want to date you or be adopted by you? BTW, how old are we talking here, guys? Be sure you find that out, and confirm it, first, OK?

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    #15

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Saying dumb s**t like “ as a MAN why are you taking care of yourself?” Or “ as a MAN your house shouldn’t be so clean”. Like sorry for not being a tramp.

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    Erla Zwingle
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously sexist, actually. Why should every man conform to your screwed-up notions of masculinity? How about trying a compliment, sometimes: "Wow, the place looks great!" "Hey, you're looking good today." You know, simple stuff just exactly like the stuff you like.

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    #16

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys One time an ex screamed at her 2 year old nephew. Instantly unattractive

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    V33 Namkrow
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sure both men and women do vile things,but this is about what guys dislike in women,not everyone

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    #17

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Over-the-top solipsism. That whole "I don't perceive it that way, therefore you perceiving it that way cannot be valid" mindset.

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    BewilderedBanana
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is usually due to a lack of empathy and failure to appreciate someone else's viewpoint, nothing to do with women specifically

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    #18

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Call themselves fat in front of ppl who are fatter

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    SadieCat17
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think most of the time this is just caused by body dysmorphia, which needs psychiatric attention, but it could also just be someone being an a*****e. Both need addressing but for different reasons.

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    #19

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys I saw a cute girl on a treadmill at the gym sneeze 4 times and not attempt to cover her mouth once. Absolutely disgusted me

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    #20

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Lie/do something hurtful, then play victim so you end up comforting them for what they did even tho you wanna cry Lol

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    Zephyr
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The key is making them understand that they hurt you, no matter how much you don't want to, let them know they f****d up and stick to your right to feel hurt/betrayed/angry/annoyed, HAVE SOME SELF RESPECT!!

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    #21

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Confusing confidence with being inconsiderate.

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    #22

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Probably if a woman constantly texts me what I’m doing every 30 mins. Can’t stand when they say “wyd”. That’s some high school s**t right there

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    Roger9er
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's just control freak behavior. And it's very, very annoying and tiring.

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    #24

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys I think not taking accountability is the biggest one.
    You’ve messed up/were rude/incorrect/whatever, but just doubling down and never apologising or admitting fault is so unattractive. Just own it and apologise like a grown up.
    “I’m sorry but…” etc.

    K1rbyblows , Ketut Subiyanto Report

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    Jason
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even true with kids. How can I expect them to own up to their mistakes if I can't. I'm the first to say I messed up and I'm sorry. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes including me.

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    #25

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys One for when you're in a relationship:


    When you're with friends and they become distinctly less pleasant to you than when you're alone, like making fun of you and making jokes at your expense which they normally would not make. Have had it in more than one relationship.
    Like... what is that about?

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    Wheely
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't speak for all women (mainly because I'm a man) but I had an ex that did this. Truth is that she was very insecure and overcompensated for that in social settings. I have broad shoulders so could tolerate it to a point, but would tell her if she crossed a line. It's not why we broke up.

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    #26

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Wipe makeup off using a bath towel

    That unsettling brown stain... uggggggh

    Poorly-Drawn-Beagle , shortylikeamelody Report

    #27

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Casual hate, just chill why are you so upset about everything

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    cerinamroth
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one is weird. My husband sometimes wonders why I'm so stressed because he has a live in the moment attitude. Unfortunately, that means that (even though I am not a natural planner or organiser) I am the one to remember birthdays, what size clothes the kids wear, where every single thing in the house is, what needs fixing, etc. It is endless. This mental load is a problem that many women have. "Just chill, why are you so upset about everything?" is probably not a helpful thing to say. Try: "You seem very stressed at the moment. Is there anything I can help with?" and really listen to the response. If she says: "Oh, it doesn't matter, I just have a lot to do", say: "Tell me three things right now that I can do for you."

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    #28

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys always talk about themselves and never ask you anything at all so the entire thing just revolves around her, not even like how was your day or are you ok, just always about them and the attention

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    Something
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people who do this expect you to also talk about yourself without being asked.

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    #29

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Lie about how they feel

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    happyplants28
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS! Nobody is telepathic and certainly can’t tell what you’re feeling, especially if you lie about it. Communication is the key to success in personal relationships- don’t undermine it

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    #30

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Cleaning my wife’s hair out of the drains grosses me out to the point where I gag. Idk why. I had no problem with other gross things. I can even clean up my dogs vomit with little to no gagging.

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    Dill
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugh, sorry, why doesn't SHE do it? Fair to refuse that task quite frankly.

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    #31

    "The Ick": 30 Things Women Do That Make Them Less Attractive To Guys Whenever i get called a “Sassy man” Whenever i talk about my feelings and actually wanting a woman who puts in emotional work like i do? Like sorry if my only options aren’t “fun boyfriend”, “Horndog”, and working 12 hours

    Sin_Nombre18 , Anna Shvets Report

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    cerinamroth
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This picture is very confusing to me. Has she just emerged from the sea? If so, why the watch? Is her neck cold? Then why the low-cut style? Is her head cold but her shoulders are warm? I just need to know!

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