I remember when dungeons and dragons was turning us all evil - ah, the olden days!

It always got me that Satan, the Great Seducer, enticed Eve to eat the apple. Then Adam was seduced by Eve. Seems Adam didn't take much to seduce him to evil while it took Satan to seduce Eve. Man always seemed the weak one to me in this story.

No, it it goes back to this supposedly all knowing, all seeing, loving god, that created these two and everything around them. Who put this tree there knowing that they would be tempted, and then punished all of humanity for the rest of time because these two broke some arbitrary rule he created. And don't get me started on sending his son (himself) to be tortured and killed as some sort of loophole so rest of us can be forgiven because they ate from the wrong tree. I couldn't come up with a more ridiculously convoluted story if I tried.

How about NOT taking archaic fables too seriously?

That depends on which version of the story you read. Hopefully you don't believe that this is some sort of fact.

note how Eve is supposed to have been strong enough and intelligent enough to recognise and resist the ultimate evil hile the man is not expected to even have enough strenght of character to resist another moral. No, it does not go back to Satan, it goes back to the rules that the allmighty s**t put in place.

Lucky you. Eastern Orthodox church would quickly change that and put you "in your place".

Ah no? Can you become pope? No? Then you are a second class citizen.

Are you allowed to speak in church? Are you expected to obey your husband? Is there pressure on you just to get married and have children and be subservient?

None of the Christians seem to have a problem with paedophile priests not being brought to account for their crimes against children. Where are the Christians demonstrating in front of the churches or the Vatican about that? Why can't women have an equal voice in the running of churches? Why are there no female bishops? Or popes? Why do you follow a book that advocates for genocide, the killing of babies, and rape and enslavement of women? Why do men get to make all the rules for religion and women have no input?

"nature of god and man" Women are irrelevant? Or did book 2 get lost on the way to the printer?

It’s actually not bizarre at all. That simply is the nature of such a book full of old tales, by a gazillion authors. There will be contradictions and people will simply pick their favourite parts and ignore the not so pleasant ones.

Well the bible say it's ok? 🤷‍♂️

Look, Jesus could of but the New Testament authors could've of thought that it wasn't important enough to go into the scripture.

And homosexuality and pedophilia and and and

Says who? Oh Bernd Herbert says so, so it must be true. Unconditional love includes those we call evil, simply because we hate the sin, not the sinner. The existence of evil is to be hated, hating those who do evil is pointless as it does not remove the existence of evil it just creates a further opportunity for more evil aka. Vengeance

I think Jesus' teachings are pretty sound it's just people/Christians don't follow them. If you read the Bible Jesus came to eradicate the original sin and eternal torture. He also says something along the lines of love the sinner not the sin. Which of course is hard to do as people choose how they behave for the most part.

Bernd, that’s what most of the Christians on this post (and nearly every religious post) are doing.

Please tell me what purpose going to Sunday mass and confession serves? Other than letting the priest know your personal life, I mean? Does it actually benefit anyone? Other than the church begging money off their congregants I mean?

Organized religion is often the reason for war, violence, greed etc. I mean look what happens in the name of the Islam around the world for example.