Woman Sick Of Men Spreading Legs In Subway Gets Revenge, And Here’s How Men Respond
We have, in the last few years, been subjected to an odd kind of lazy, unimaginative wordplay whereby the word ‘man’ is prefixed onto certain things, ascribing male characteristics to them somewhat unnecessarily. Examples include manbag, man-scaping, man-flu, mansplaining and now, manspreading, which is the male act of taking up additional space on public transport by splaying his legs too wide.
The city of Madrid evidently thinks that manspreading has become such a problem that they decided to ban it altogether on their public transport system, in order to “remind transport users to maintain civic responsibility. equal rights and respect the personal space of everyone on board.”
This woman decided to fight back against this obnoxious behavior equally, by giving men a taste of their own medicine and teaching them how to respect her personal space. She was quickly praised by another woman, who attempted to provide psychological reasoning behind the phenomenon of manspreading, believing that it’s basically just another sign of male dominance and oppression.
Enter a guy on the scene, coming in to ‘mansplain’ (ugh) his take on the situation, which he believes is actually quite simple, and the entire discussion is just basically, nuts.
Scroll down below to check the best comebacks from both sides for yourself, and let us know what you think about the issue in the comments. Do the ladies have a point? Or is it really just a simple matter of comfort for the cojones, placement of the plums? Or are they just rude people, unaware of their own selfish behavior? Join the discussion!
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Share on FacebookI am a woman and spread my legs. Not to show off my crotch, but because it is effin comfortable. If you sit next to such a spreaded guy, they usually close their legs. Not because of being intimidated but because not every man is a jerk, not every man who sits like this is a jerk and shows of partiarchy crotchdominance. They close their legs to give space. And that's it.
Yup. Most of the time guys will sit like that if they have free space around because it's more comfortable, but they'll usually close their legs as needed if they see someone else wants to sit. If I have space, I'll sit with my legs closed but straight - it's what's comfortable to me. I can and will take as much or as little space as is available in public transport.
Load More Replies...Have testes, I sit like that because they were poorly placed for bipedal mammals. Will close up shop if asked or if someone sits next to me.
That's the right and natural thing to do. But, sadly, there really are men (and women) who think other people do not exist in this world.
Load More Replies...Women giving men advice on how to manage their junk is like a man giving a woman advice on pregnancy.
"Womansplaining", I guess? Indeed I wouldn't try to assume what it feels like to have a d**k and balls. Just ask the guy to please move over a bit because you want to sit. You can't really complain that men don't listen to women if you don't even try to talk to them.
Load More Replies...Women don’t have d***s that get sweaty and uncomfortable if crunched together. Im gay man and I assure you I’m not trying to dominate the women next to me in the subway.
Very true. I’m a woman and even I understand that you guys have different parts, and you guys have to do things differently.
Load More Replies..."She was quickly praised by another woman, who attempted to give a psychological reasoning behind the phenomenon of manspreading, believing that it’s basically just another sign of male dominance and oppression." There is literally nothing that a man can do that some random feminist will not, after giving a deep psychological analysis, attribute to trying to show male dominance and oppression. They're up there with flat earthers and the anti vaccine crowd.
Some feminists, are just not aware of your situation. Some are crazy. Some totally empathetize with your situation. On behalf of all feminists, I apologize for the lapse in judgment.
Load More Replies...I'm a woman, and I have always "manspread" unless I'm wearing a skirt or dress, although I pull everything in to make room if someone wants to sit near me. I've been scolded by other ladies for not sitting "ladylike" but I just don't care.
Blokes have meat and two veg between our legs; it's very unconformable sometimes to sit with your legs together so we spread them. It's nothing to do with taking anyone else's space. Why do people have to try and put sexism or the patriarchy into everything? We got squished and warm balls people, they needs to breathe.
Ugh that comment about dominance... *rolls eyes* Do they forget men have something hanging between their legs? :P So yeah, I'm with the guy in the next comment on this one. We all like to sit comfortable, (the guy in the last pic is taking it a bit too far though) and unless the train/bus is packed with people, it shouldn't be such a big deal to sit like that? Ofcourse if there are a lot of people that want a seat and guys still refuse to close their legs to make room, then they're just jerks :P (Note: wearing loose shorts without any underwear and "manspreading"... please don't... It's ok to sit like that but we don't need to see your junk) Another note, I hate words like mansplaining and all that.
Nope, the last guy is a d..k and most us guys hate that kind of person as well. He is taking up 3 spaces for nothing. He is the equivalent of a car taking up 3 parking spaces. And going commando in shorts is horrible for the family jewels. The skin on skin action is horrible and the skin down there is really sensitive, especially if you shave. Too bad so many people tend to go all out to be the worst kind of person they can be when the opposite is so easy to do.
Load More Replies...As soon as you pre-empt any term with the word "man", I assume you're sexist. Because you are. Believe me, for every man-splain there's a fem-splain, for every man-spread there's a fem-spread, and for every d******d out there, there's a cunthead too.
I think most people are inherently annoying in a social setting such as a train or a bus. You should feel lucky that you felt safe enough to explore your abilities to open your legs and play chicken with the man. As we all know, most of the world is dealing with more severe things that are 100 percent sexist- not just assumed sexism.
You would've got quicker results had you actually asked the man to adjust. I mean he did move when you pushed against him. just a thought
How is exposing your most sensitive parts an act of dominance? In all other species exposing your soft underside is an act of submission. Honestly, ladies, not everything is about us, sometimes men just exist with no thoughts of how to p**s off women everywhere. I know it is a hard concept to understand, but there it is.
Yeah, this argument is really...really....REALLY...stupid. Guys (like myself) spread out because it's more comfortable. But any half-decent dude will stop manspreading and suck it up if a woman politely comes up and asks if they can sit down. It has literally nothing to do with dominance. We just like being comfortable. :|
Yup, we are made to have huge muscles and the most sensitive s****y organs between our legs. I would call that a design flaw.
Load More Replies...OH.MY.GOD. This is beyond the pale. I hate the terms "mansplaining" now. Don't make me start hating this term too. Geez trying to take some power back doesn't mean you have to try to emasculate men you know. Who cares how they sit? God if everyone would just be a little less focused on the minutiae the things that matter might be taken seriously. Granted i didn't verify to see if this story about Madrid is true but if it is, WOW.
finally, someone f-ing said it! THANK YOU. I hate the terms "mansplaining" not because i'm a man, but i don't choose it. If i get to, i would love to be a unicorn or something prettier.
Load More Replies...you'd have thought we'd have evolved to be able to retract our 'junk' when it's not needed. but alas, we haven't...
Actually probably did at one point, and then evolution to decided to let it drop as it functions better cooler. Good idea in theory.. beside for when men actually have to move, and how exposed it is to damage :X
Load More Replies...Oh my word, more Femenist c**p. Soon enough there's gonna be "Manbreathing".
also, what the hell gives you the right to photograph strangers without their consent and plaster them all over the internet just because of your little hang up?
How on earth is it considered "dominant" to display your crotch? The most vulnerable area? Confident - yes. Relaxed and peaceful.
Ahhhhh yes let me display one of my most fragile areas that can be damaged easily.
Load More Replies...Next up: campaign to get shopping bag ladies and back-pack students of all genders to limit their space usage.
It doesn’t have much to do with dominance, heat, testicles or showing off. The female pelvis is wider (relative to her body) then that of men. It is uncomfortable for most men. Not all. And more natural to sit like that. Women have their knees together because of the wide pelvis creating more comfort like that. Its a biological thing. If you can’t stand it, look the other way. Ofcourse, a douche like the last picture deserves a well placed poolball in the middle.
It's a PUBLIC transportation. Why not do something completely radical, and be POLITE to the other travellers? It's not your sitting room, or your toilet, unless you're a total exhibitionist. When you display your genitals - man or woman - it's not for others benefit, but because you're lazy and selfish. If it's a PUBLIC place, be POLITE. As simple as that.
I once told a sociology teacher it was because men needed to conquer the space they occupied, while women knew they already owned it.
Thanks to this article, I have seen the error of my ways and will never sit with my knees more than 8 3/4" apart on public transportation. In fact, I have become a "masculinist," and the next time I see a woman's breasts in anything other than an uncomfortable brassiere, I will alert the authorities and put it all on Twitter.
I sit like this because it's comfortable. That has nothing to do with my balls or any other b******t, but because that's the position that my legs naturally end up in all by themselves when I sit down. If someone sits next to me I close my legs because that's civil, but it's damned uncomfortable and I have to concentrate on maintaining that position or my legs will go back to their natural resting position. This does not detract from the fact that guys who refuse to show consideration for other passengers on purpose are d***s.
What I am sick of is seeing arrogant, aggressive low class women behaving like the men they are attacking. Men have a different physiology, stupid woman. It's difficult to sit in modern clothing - look at 18C mens trousers and underwear and compare them - without considerable discomfort to the very sensitive testicles. They are pretty much driven to do it, and it's not "all about you". Few to none have the remotest interest in you, let alone want to "dominate" you. However, what good do you do by sitting down in a very unladylike and aggressive way without provocation? Have you ever tried approaching said male, getting his attention and saying, with a smile, "excuse me, but I would like to sit here. Could you leave me some space please?". I have, and it's always been "Oh, yes, I"m terribly sorry" and instant compliance. Try and be a little more considerate yourself next time, and maybe you will get some back.
Dominant crotch display is the most ridiculous thing I've seen today. Thanks for the laugh. Men sit like that because it's comfortable. I'm sitting spread-legged alone on my computer chair. That said, if you're sitting like that on a bus, and they're are people standing needing seats, you're a f*****g d**k.
This is funny and I get why this frustrates people, but for most guys, crushing our genitals between our legs is less-preferable than taking up a little extra space. The last pic is way out there, but there is a reason we don't normally slam our thighs together.
Why not just ask such a guy "can I please sit there" when he takes up space and you need the spot? I regularly do and they never say no.
They usually don't even realize they're taking so much space. They just naturally end up sitting like that. It's not different from having to ask people to let you pass because they didn't realize they were blocking the way. People have other things in their mind.
Load More Replies...Great. Now how about a post condemning people who take off their shoes and put their nasty feet up in public?
Also, mens hip joints are shallower and narrower meaning our legs are more naturally pointed outwards when sitting in a natural position. Women's tend to angle inwards. The best way to determine how you should sit for optimum comfort is to figure out the most comfortable way to squat. Also balls lol.
Ok i will give you that, as soon as women explain to me what the "Cleavage Thing" is all about. I hate it when a fat tit woman sits across from me with a 12 inch cleavage and then looks at me like I am some kind of pervert. Because women dominate with it. Big tits or tits in general regardless of size, big balls. Explain to me what the difference is... If you please.
Apparently crossing your legs can be bad for your health according to Brightside:https://www.google.nl/amp/s/brightside.me/article/why-you-should-never-cross-your-legs-96505/amp/
That guy gets it. I'm transgender, so I don't have to deal with the same genitals, but no matter WHAT you have, it's generally more comfortable to sit with your legs spread to SOME degree, and I don't have to try hard to imagine that the more you have in the general crotch region the less comfortable it is to squish it all together.
The only time man spreading annoys me is when I have to stand because a guy is almost doing a split across 3 seats on a semi crowded public bus. Yes this has happened.
And why didn't you just ask if you could sit next to him? I mean: you can always try... maybe he even answers with "yes" :-)
Load More Replies...Honestly, I think we all do this. I do it (My girl cousin yells at me and says “Sit like a LADY for goodness sake tf is wrong with you??”) but it is SO.FREAKIN.COMFORTABLE. I mean, I hate sitting up straight, legs closed, head high, and whatever else. I mean, I’m sitting like that now, not because I’m a jerk, but because I’m comfortable. Now if ladies are wearing skirts and dresses that’s different. Don’t open your legs like that in public please, even if you’re wearing shorts and undies. But I think we should just politely ask a person scoot over a bit so we can sit. No matter the gender. It’s not just guys doing this, girls do too.
What a sad f*****g loser. I'm suprised you don't sit with your legs far apart when sitting bearing in mind what a massive c**k you are.
the reason I spread slightly(VERY SLIGHTLY) is because of the way men and males going through puberty are made. imagine having two sensitive balls, that have moved out of place. I remember today sitting on the bus and squealing in pain because of the way my pants held my balls so tightly, they still ache but I don't like confrontation so I just tried my best to not spread my legs too much.
my grandad never sits with his legs wide open. He always has one lap on top of the other. If the reason they sit like this is their genitalia then why my grandpa never sits like that? He has balls too!
no offense but you can't be to sure but when a male crosses his legs depending on who the person is he might be able to cross his legs without hurting his balls
Load More Replies...Just close your legs, your breath stinks. (Heard in Jr. High School 1968)
That last dude deserves and accidental knee to the nuts from someone who has to stand. LOL!!!
The issue is the lack of consideration of those who DO NOT MOVE THEIR LEGS when others want to sit. Unless the idiot has paid full-price for his/her legs/bag to take up another seat AND has paid the full-priced fair for a passenger to have to stand because of this, the behavior is unacceptable.
Grammar-nazi kicking in: that's "full-priced FARE"
Load More Replies...“How can I be a professional victim today? Let’s write an article about how guys sit and accuse them of trying to show dominance towards us!”
Oh my God this is so stupid. Who gives a rats a*s how people position their legs when they sit?! I'm female and I sit like that when I'm at home as a matter of fact I'm sitting at home in my office chair right now with my knees apart..oh God call the news station and post it to twitter and Fuking stupid Book, whoops I meant Face Book
Why do people put c**p like this out there? Have they nothing better to do with their lives then to get hostile over a sitting position, specifically as it relates to men? Do they feel it necessary to challenge it with their own bodies? This is right up there with the "wrong way" to hang toilet paper.
Just a followup- The last gut reminded me of ME after I had surgery down on the inside of my thighs from a motorcycle crash. Again, there very well could be a perfectly valid reason to sit like that, and sometimes I still do because it hurts to close them.
O i will give you that as soon as women address " The Cleavage thing" I don't like it when some fat tit girl sits across from me with a 12 inch cleavage and then look at me like I am some kind of pervert.
Shut up loser. How does that affect your ability to sit down? You don’t get the argument being made.
Load More Replies...I always assumed it was testicle-related and not just hogging the space. But that guy in the last photo is definately being a jerk (or maybe he has a terrible itch going on down there and is trying to relieve it).
what is the real point for this? Im a guy and I do this cus my testicles do also get hot and pressured and I sometimes need to release it. Damn, this is getting on my f****n nerves with all this feminist bs.No offense to women. I respect all women
my question is why didn't she just ask him? i feel like asking would solve a lot of the "problem" - but that's just me
Because talking to him is inviting in a host of other burdens she shouldn’t have to deal with just to sit down.
Load More Replies...Basically the existence of men is a problem. They are inherently brutal, supposedly. Masculinity itself must be eradicated. This is summit of westernism. It’s peak post-humanism. And basically this is where the West has arrived at. Men are told they talk to much. They sit the wrong way. Just existing is a problem. But it’s a problem primarily for western men. Leave the West and, voila, you can leave behind the problem.
Don’t let the door hit you on the a*s on the way out.
Load More Replies...I don't normally take pubic transportation, but I was on light rail about a year or so ago. There was this guy who was spreading, and he kept going wider, making the woman sitting next to him very uncomfortable. She finally asked him to stop, but he just grinned and didn't answer. That's when *I'd* had enough. I looked directly at his crotch, said, dude, you don't have enough there to advertise, shut 'em all ready. Everyone on the train laughed (including the guys) and he gave that lady some space.
Kinda funny, if the situation were reversed and he made an equally derogatory comment to you, it would be considered sexual harassment. I think it's about time women were given the same restrictions men are in that respect. Maybe then you wouldn't be so disrespectful.
Load More Replies...Unless a guy has 18 testicles, there is no explanation for sitting with their legs spread open like the ones shown in these pictures.
Maybe when woman put their purses and bags on the seats beside them we can call that "woman spreading"
id explain to you why but I don't really know if someone with your IQ would even understand 1 fraction of what I'd tell you.
Load More Replies...im a women and i spread my legs like this while sitting not because i want to show dominance i just sit like that the only time i dont sit like that is when i am sitting next to a guy who is doing it because i want to give him space to be comfortable and thats it.
Wow. Some things just can't be "unheard". Knowing now how much space testicles apparently need to simply cool off, the pity I am going to feel for some people. Maybe we need to start handing out fans to these poor sufferers.
I'm a male, I don't care what you do if there's room to relax, but in crowded situations like a bus or train, you bring your knees together to make room for others, we've all seen this rude macho bullshtt before. both genders.
who ever this woman is, she needs to get a grip on her life! Is this all she has??
Who ever you are, you need a grip on your life! Is insulting this lady all you really have?
Load More Replies...I dont get it, is the issue a spatial one? True, some ppl lack civility and consideration but thats when you tell them or ask them to move. Maybe the woman is a peni-gynist?
Men do sit like that to be comfortable. They also scratch their balls a lot. Gentlemen do both of these things at home.
I really don't care how someone sits next to me, as long as I have room for my own legs too. I really dislike it when people come sit next to me and (slowly or not so slowly) take up more and more space till I have almost none left. Other than that I don't care about potential crotch displays, you standing on your hands, or laying upside down across the seat. Just give me my space and keep your clothes on, and we will be fine sharing a public bench or w/e.
Guys you don't want your balls boiling and crushed , try something else then Brazilian under wears , better yet none .
There's a range of between okay spread and a not okay spread, just don't do it to everyone
How does any woman KNOW why a man sits that way? Some women can be such d***s. Men have balls, they spread their legs for comfort. If our tits were between our legs, how the hell do you think we would be sitting. Stop bitching about everything a man does.
I'd almost bet that the ones doing the most complaining about "man spreading" would be the first to scream if one of the men, before closing his legs, adjusted the boys. I know having these meat/milk bags hanging off of my chest isn't all that comfortable, I couldn't imagine having something 1000 times more sensitive hanging between my legs being constantly pressed on by underwear and outerwear.
As a man I think that if a man or woman spreads their legs to where they basically taking up two seats worth of space it's too far. Yet if their knees stay within the space of one seat it's fine. But that is just my lonely opinion.
I am a lady, and not young, frankly I think this is ... a big to do about nothing. GET A LIFE !!!
This woman is an idiot. I would have just stood my ground and then let's see how far she gets with her passive aggressive moves. It it's crowded I make room for anyone to sit, if not, I will spread to my hearts content. If a woman like this tried something like this I'd tell her to move.
There's a difference between spreading your legs for comfort & spreading in an unconscious display of dominance. One is much more annoying & easy to spot. I think it's important to keep in mind though that some people are not visibly disabled but you sitting next to them might cause them serious pain that they'd rather not explain, so they spread out to signal that they need the space. Also the bag spreading thing is definitely not limited to women.
I really couldn’t give less of a f**k about how a man feels about this topic. They will never have a clue how hazardous it is to ride public transport as a woman and how s****y it is for us BECAUSE OF THEM and the nonstop harassment. Men are lucky we still let them ride the subway period.
i have cerebral palsy so have to spread and or stretch my legs all the time when sitting. does this mean i can scream ableism when someone tells me to top? cause thatd be funny as hell
Manspreading is a pretty big problem on the subways in NYC. The guys I know don't engage in this... so I don't buy the "I need to air out my balls" excuse. F*****g grow up, dudes. Everyone should be able to sit on the subway if they want to.
Great discussion guys! Saw some real claws coming out; at least we're talking. A friend of mine sat on a train, spread all cool & manly. Two girls opposite him, checking him out, giggling. The more they checked, the more cool & manly he felt until he realized he had a hole in his pants, no undies and his nuts were sitting neatly on the seat!!!! :D PS. I don't think I would ever tell a woman NOT to spread 'em; that would just be impolite...
My God, there is more important things in this world to worry and/or complain about! If only all of our problems plateaued at how someone sits.
Dear men, your balls aren't that sensitive. Try listening to women for once They aren't THAT sensitive? You moron...they are that sensitive and MORE. Try putting clothes pins on your nipples, THAT'S what it feels like when we are forced to sit with our legs together..... Try listening to men for once.....
we sit as we wish. what you want, is not our problem, and how we sit, is not your business.
Breasts are also uncomfortable to have pressed to your arms by someone else...just give each other some room!
On motives, the women are wrong and the man is right. However, it's a temporary minor discomfort, one that we experience daily all our adult lives. It's quite possible to be in a bit of discomfort due to something like a bit of s*****m caught under a bit of elastic while making a departmental presentation, and continue on determinedly anyway. Spread legs are for comfort, and we do it when we're alone. But closed legs are in the same line of courtesy as holding a door, saying thank you, helping old folks across the street. And like those actions, there are those who do it instinctively out of consideration for others, and those who do not.
Notice how often men do it, hunched over, with their hands together. A lot of this is a genetic protective stance. The guy in the jeans with the phone, I have no explanation for. I have a photo of about 12 investigators, standing, in suits and ties, involved in a child kidnapping murder. Except for one or two, they stand with hands crossed in front of fly. The sexual nature of the crime emphasising it. When Obama did it, during flag pledge, it was called "crotch salute". It is anatomically sourced, anthropologically, and is no way meant to show dominance and disrespect. Get over it. If crowded, they close knees.
Note the width of the seat and DO NOT TAKE UP MORE THAN THAT! Dudes, keep your legs and hands inside the seat area. Ladies and kids, keep your bag on your lap. I don't care what your reason is for taking more than your share but CUT IT OUT! You aint here alone.
pretty sure the women across from you were laughing at how stupid you are
Total man-spreader here... I dunno how anyone can keep their legs together, man or woman. When I have to, I put my knees closer so I occupy 'my space' but my adductors (groin muscles) get damn sore. The natural relaxed position for me is knees apart. However, I recognize politeness and allow folks, men or women, to have their space. Definitely not a male dominance thing, its a physical comfort thing.
Maybe they need to carry a hernia donut cushion to give their nuts air and protection?
Personally, I've seen almost as much bag-spreading as man-spreading! I walk with a cane because I have trouble keeping my balance (thanks to multiple concussions) and I've had to stop in front of men taking up two seats in the "handicapped" seats, but also in front of women taking up THREE seats (one for themselves, one for their oversized purses and another for their display of jumbo name-brand shopping bags). Sometimes they (both sexes) eventually notice me, but sometimes I have to ask them to move. I usually give them a minute to wake up from their waking dreams and downsize a little, but then I WILL ask them to make room in a less-than-ladylike voice. Taking up more space than you've paid for and/or taking up "handicapped" spaces is just rude and it's definitely not gender-specific.
Old woman - only one seat left on the bus home, way in the back. Young jock-type man sitting with legs spread. Me: " Scoot over, dude, your junk isn't all that big." He got up and moved.
Men blame balls and point to women putting bags on seats. We have breasts and don’t want [heavy] bags on our tits. This is another example of why none of us deserve nice things.
Am I the only one who noticed that the last guy pictured is doing a split. That dude is seriously limber. Props
None have any idea what the other has to go through. This society have to must of their mind focused on sex.
Firstly. Just by necessity, a man needs more room. His JUNK (oops! Did I offend more of your sensitivities?). Like it or not, large or small or HUMONGOUS, it's there and needs more room then the "side saddle sitting" you oh so wish on the world.
A suggestion if one wants to have more room on puplic transportation is to wear a surgical face mask and cough often. Few will want to sit next to you.
Well, what do you expect? My subjectivity ‘assigned gender’ includes this fleshy sack that doesn’t like to be crushed or heated, damn you heteronormativity and the Patriarchy TM... but please, do tell me how that handbag you have taking up space next to you isn’t inconveniencing other commuters ;)
I guarantee if he had been standing and happened to see her sitting like that, he wouldn't have cared at all. The reason he was uncomfortable is probably because she sat right up next to him and tried to take up the space that had already been taken by his legs. We really do sit like that in private, and it really does come naturally as a way of making your balls more comfortable. While dominance signaling through body language is a thing, I really really really don't think that this is an example of it.
It is like if we would live in Orwell 84. You can't even sit how you want, because some sitting positions means you are not true believer of the Collective what means you are rebbel scum! These idiots makes me mad.
If ya wanna sit like that ladies go hard.. don't mind at all. I personally sit with a leg over another. Like a Figure Four leg lock(if you watch WWE/WWF you will understand. Just more comfortable I find. But go hard.. not offended if ya do.. would love to see more woman sit as they feel comfortable.
wonder if men feel "uncomfortable" when women "confront" them with their tits out? double f*****g standard. get a life. the only way this is "uncomfortable" is if theyre taking up my seat. some women make me uncomfortable with their body parts in my face but I cant say s**t.
They not very nice, I wouldn't want to such a selfish person, would yo?
Is that guy in the last photo a retired NYC ballet dancer? Holy c**p. Nice seated second position, dude.
If there are plenty of seats available who cares what people do with the space around them? But if the bus is packed it's nice when people are considerate of those around them.
I am delighted to come to the Comments section and find a bunch of rational responses to this post. For goodness sakes. They are a lot of jerks out there mo doubt, but talking about over analyzing a situation. Even if a guy is subconsciously spreading out to show his dominance, due to our social expectations and manners they would immediately retract their stance as to not inconvenience others. Again that is what a normal male would. To be honest I don't ride public transportation all that often but I would assume most of these people are paying attention to looking at soft porn on YouTube than trying to claim their space on a bus.
You know I understand, that makes sense but you don't have to spread your legs ALL THE WAY (not saying all men do this, but 2/3 men I've ever seen do that spread their legs all the way) and I don't care if you do it at home, that's fine just preferably keep your legs as close as is comfortable if you're sitting somewhere in public where someone might want to sit next to you, you don't need a woman to do the same to get the message you should know as soon as someone sits next to you to close your legs more.
This is not an attack on men, I don't have anything against men and once again: I'm not saying all men do this, this just based off of what I have seen and I hope it doesn't come off as rude
Load More Replies...I think the guy in the last photo looks ridiculous, and if there is a shortage of open seats there's no excuse for that posture. But just to play devil's advocate for a second, is it possible that closing his legs would cause his knees to block more than half of the aisle? Could sitting like that make it more convenient for people to walk past? I very rarely use public transportation so I have no idea of the dimensions. Maybe he just had a vasectomy, and he's spreading like that because they're still a little tender? Maybe there's some kind of heat rash involved, or something horrible he picked up in some den of iniquity? Next time you see a guy sitting like that, ask him if he's sitting like that because he's been boinking farm animals again.
I’m a lady (adult, almost 30) and I sit spread slightly, like the cover photo for this post. It’s more comfortable than dainty leg crossed woman sitting. Conversely, my boyfriend sits like L from death note, always.
wow - that's a lot of thinking for what seems pretty obvious to everyone - dude's have dangly bits...danlgy bits more comfy when not smushed.... don't be a d**k and make the person next to you fit in half a seat, but if there is room that no one is using I couldn't care less about how you sit. I frequently sit cross - legged which takes up an awful lot of room too but I wouldn't do that if it looked like someone might want/need the space to sit in
The dangly bits sit at the front, I believe, so they need better undies.
Load More Replies...sorry I think this is stupid women do put their bags etc on seats next to them and to be honest a lot of ladies behinds are so large they spill onto the other seat sorry ladies can't have it all your own way if you can dish it out you must be able to take it
I don’t want to carry a heavy bag across my large breasts for the duration of my commute.
Load More Replies...I'm sick of people using the term "man-spreading" like it's the most terrible thing in the world and every man is terrible for doing it, they have frigging JUNK okay? Imagine having something that's incredibly sensitive right between your legs and it's uncomfortable to put even slight pressure on it, stop saying guys have to stop caring about being comfortable and maybe we can all be considerate about each other. P.S I'm a woman and I sit with my legs open half the time
Periods. Many men (Maybe not you or anyone you associate with) like to complain about how women act on their periods. Yes it's frustrating to be chastised by something you find natural but women have had to deal with this s**t for years. Again, I'm not specifically referring to you or comparing period pain to ball pain.
Load More Replies...People just get Offended by everything nowadays, don't they. Not a question. However, the jerk in the last picture is simply being a jerk.
I don't necessarily think he's being a jerk, I just think he's oblivious. He's like those people who stand stock still in the aisle of the grocery store and talk to friends. They're not jerks, they're just not fully aware of others. They're probably nice people (maybe) ordinarily but they don't think.
Load More Replies...I don't think, that many of us do these things intentionally, especially since there are is not many rules in our societies for boys as for girls. It's not just men spreading, but also public scratching of crotch, putting down the toilet seat or even pee on porcelain and not directly to the water, so everyone can be delighted by the sound of the "stream". It's all about the time of socialisation of children, I grew up surrounded by women and they constantly commented my behaviour and I just had to find a ways how to not be obnoxious on public and yet remain comfortable. Testicles issue is a real thing, but if there is no norm some guys will never learn how to "adjust" their business discretely to not bother others around with spreading around the bus. I really hate see some male friend touching himself on public and spreading like moron ... you feel uncomfortable? Well, there is variety of men underwear, it's like with bras, they are not all various of them for different occasion
Tfw you're a guy reading this and you cross your legs, everywhere and anywhere
I want to know what the male perspective dealing with spreaders. You walk into a car, dude is spreading into the only seat available and you want to sit down. What's your reaction?
Open your mouth and ask to sit. If they're so incredibly rude that they'd deny you the space to sit, do you really want to sit next to them?
Load More Replies...Crotch display is a sign of dominance? Um...no. sitting like that is just more comfortable. It prevents my legs from getting stiff or cramping up. If they start to ache, then I cross them. If they start to ache again, I cross them a different way. I'm all for feminism, but petty complaints like this are just stupid. If ANYONE is taking up a lot of space in a seat (legs, arms, bags, purses, etc.) and doesn't shift themselves or move their stuff to allow someone else to sit down (unless they are pregnant, disabled, or elderly), then they aren't "manspreading," or "pursespreading," or whatever. They are just being an a*****e.
Some people do spread their legs. It doesn't always have to be gender thing. It's all about etiquette and being a decent human being. Why people always love to turn everything into a gender issue? Can we just focus on something that really matters right now instead of arguing about manspreading, mansplaining, and whatsoever? There are women who are currently being the object of oppression, there are minority who struggles or to fit in, there are shootings, poverty, rape, and discrimination. Can we take JUST A SECOND, to stop this first world problem b******t? To think about those women and men all over the world who are being exploited and oppressed? And to actually do something useful instead of drawing a very big line to separate us as human being?
o.O Is...is it first of April already? Please tell me it is. Because otherwise I don't want to live on this planet anymore. It scares the hell out of me to imagine I'm on the same planet with the "guys sit with spread legs to express their dominance" girl. Oh yeah and I'm a girl, if anything.
"Dear men, your balls aren't that sensitive. Try listening to women for once" OMFG are you stupid? They aren't THAT sensitive? I tell you what moron: put a couple of clothes pins on your nipples and see how that feels......that's what having balls feels like when we're forced to close our legs on them.
I dont have testies and even I splay a bit. Why? CAUSE MY THIGHS SWEAT. It's not about f*****g dominance or being rude, it's f*****g comfort. I swear I feel ashamed to be female most of the damn time with idiots like these...
why do women alway abuse men? women have oppressed and commited violence against men for over 5 thousand years when will women stop hurting men? why?
I doubt that men feel that insecure and bad when someone else is spreading legs. I do it all the time and men just move a little, continuing doing whatever. Sorry, but sometimes you cannot just offend someone by copying their actions.
If women had balls and therefore sitting spread eagled was most natural for them, feminists would be fighting for wider seats and telling any man who told them to close their legs a misogynist.
This chickmis passive aggressive and more rude to stoop to a man who is spreading level. Men spread their legs because we have stuff between our legs and is hella uncomfortable to squeeze ot all in all the time. Im getting sick of this mentality where woman plays victims alk the damn time.
Louder With Crowder did a segment on this. I watched their YouTube video. They gave women a wearable crotch piece and then told them to sit comfortably and they would immediately spread their legs. They explained that it's a sensitive area that you don't want to squash. It's like having breasts between your legs. I gained a whole level of understanding of men that day.
I think it's because it takes muscles to keep your legs together, and if you want to relax you don't put them together. And trust me, men are WAAAYYY to unconcerned with trying to attract a woman with their "packages". Doesn't even enter their mind. They just unconsciously "know" they look good. Anyone who does this thinking it will turn on a woman is sick in the head and you should move your seat.
The whole .dominant bullcrap is leftist/feminazi c**p designed to belittle men as most feminazi agenda is. Notice I didn't say feminist .. because the real (not radical) feminist actually has a brain and doesn't just jump on the manhating bandwagon. One wakeup call to all you idiot feminazis is that sooner or later you will be left cold and alone, and not even donors will want anything to do with you. The world is changing and your doctrine is no longer tolerated. As for the sitting position, if nobody is currently sitting next to you, you sit the way that offers the most comfort .. but in current society you have so many people that will get butthurt over anything. It has come to the point of absolute ridicule. Current US society has men so afraid to 'live' because they might do that a woman will take insult to, that we have to walk on eggshells. It is no wonder that it is increasingly more and more common to stay single.
Wow...really women? You think men do this out of dominance? Younger men who's testicles have not dropped yet have quite a bit of difficulty as it's hard to keep their legs closed due to the fact that they will crush their testes, older men can actually sit with one leg over the other like a woman as their testes can now rest on their lap. The guy in the photo not only is pretty far spread out and has two bags on the seat...yeah he might be a jerk, but he's also strutting some pretty tight britches and when you close your legs with those on you get some serious pinching going on. Most men will respect you and we do not do it out of disrespect, just like you need leeway for your breasts, we need them for our testes. A major problem with society today...a lack of respect, from both sexes. Oh...and yes.... a man's testes do drop when he reaches a certain age for those of you women and younger men that don't think so....just something we men have to look forward to as we get older...lol
This appears to just be another horrible thing men do so some women can complain and look to be the warrior princess.
A guy who spread his legs in metro in Istanbul recently received a 6 months jail time. Spreading your legs is a sexual harassment in Turkey now, and as a woman I'm happy.
My husband says - I'm a men, but guys with spreaded legs (wider than it's needed) makes sick me too. It's not showing their domination, it's showing only how fools and egoists they are.
I avoid sitting next to males on public transport, where possible. The manspread is real.
I get so tired when guys claim they do this or that cause they have testicles, many men have showed me already that they sit PERFECTLY fine with their legs crossed etc WITH testicles. Ladies, lets walk in tight areas with our arms out because we got boobs shall we?
Not a problem so long as no woman complains when I reach down (on the outside of my pants) and lift up twig and berries that are sitting in between so they don't get crunched. Lots of women look at you like you're beating off when you just shift around to get rid of the "batwing" so you can be comfy. Take it easy, ladies. You remove wedgies, I shift my nuts. No big deal.
How many of us are going to be thinking of this discussion in a public place next time we see a guy sitting like this? Ha ha.
Load More Replies...If I want more space I'll show I want more space, don't care who sits how. Whatever
so you dont notice men complaining if you are all standing on a packed bus and a woman has large tits that she cant help but spread out forwards into someones face do you ! i have large boobs that i cant do anything about,just like my man has large nuts, should we chop them off or something
My bf has started confronting guys who do this by putting his leg against theirs, if this doesn't work to make them close their legs, then he'll rub his leg against theirs until they do. A lot of people sit with their legs spread a bit, but not to the extent of some. I've seen some men take up 3 seats on the bus with this c**p. I've also seen some women take up 3 seats with bags and purses. It's unacceptable from either gender.
What a load of s**t. Spread legs are for comfort. Can I ask all you snowflakes to get a life....!!!!
The man in the picture above is a complete idiot. Period. He just wants the world to think he matters. He does not.
When you are trying to prove a point, using a b******t staged photo, like the guy at the end doesn't help your point.
Just another thing to have a go at men for... much like the 'Me too' campaign that has turned into a Macarthy style witch hunt. Just leave men alone to be who they want to be.
Really? You're equating this with the Me Too campaign? So a guy who sits normally on a train is the same thing as a douche bag who sexually harasses someone? The Me Too campaign is about women sharing their stories of being sexually harassed. Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Your last statement sounds like you think you should be able to do whatever you want. Your disbelief in women's stories of harassment shows what kind of a "man" you are. F**k that. This is apples and oranges.
Load More Replies...Babies feed off those breasts nobody feeds off a guys c**k... Well no child... Well no willing child... Our world is f****d
Load More Replies...No. It isn't. I am a feminist and I love (frickin' LOVE) men. By the way, my Dad has cancer. I would beg to differ sir/madame. Unless you are suffering with cancer please do not use phrases like that. Actually, even if you are suffering with cancer please do not use phrases like that. Just because you either do not understand what feminism is or you think you only understand what the misguided "militant feminists" are or you only have seen those who are not intelligent about what they do....frankly you're painting every single person in that group with one brush and it's not a smart thing to do. In any case, whatever you believe in that's your deal but the cancer thing? Not cool.
Load More Replies...Uh that’s kind of rude. I know PLENTY of men that demand a lot of the road. And women too. Men ain’t angels, women and men are equally rude in some cases and equally kind.
Load More Replies...Does it look "rude" if a woman doesn't wear a bra? Or is that okay?
Load More Replies...I am a woman and spread my legs. Not to show off my crotch, but because it is effin comfortable. If you sit next to such a spreaded guy, they usually close their legs. Not because of being intimidated but because not every man is a jerk, not every man who sits like this is a jerk and shows of partiarchy crotchdominance. They close their legs to give space. And that's it.
Yup. Most of the time guys will sit like that if they have free space around because it's more comfortable, but they'll usually close their legs as needed if they see someone else wants to sit. If I have space, I'll sit with my legs closed but straight - it's what's comfortable to me. I can and will take as much or as little space as is available in public transport.
Load More Replies...Have testes, I sit like that because they were poorly placed for bipedal mammals. Will close up shop if asked or if someone sits next to me.
That's the right and natural thing to do. But, sadly, there really are men (and women) who think other people do not exist in this world.
Load More Replies...Women giving men advice on how to manage their junk is like a man giving a woman advice on pregnancy.
"Womansplaining", I guess? Indeed I wouldn't try to assume what it feels like to have a d**k and balls. Just ask the guy to please move over a bit because you want to sit. You can't really complain that men don't listen to women if you don't even try to talk to them.
Load More Replies...Women don’t have d***s that get sweaty and uncomfortable if crunched together. Im gay man and I assure you I’m not trying to dominate the women next to me in the subway.
Very true. I’m a woman and even I understand that you guys have different parts, and you guys have to do things differently.
Load More Replies..."She was quickly praised by another woman, who attempted to give a psychological reasoning behind the phenomenon of manspreading, believing that it’s basically just another sign of male dominance and oppression." There is literally nothing that a man can do that some random feminist will not, after giving a deep psychological analysis, attribute to trying to show male dominance and oppression. They're up there with flat earthers and the anti vaccine crowd.
Some feminists, are just not aware of your situation. Some are crazy. Some totally empathetize with your situation. On behalf of all feminists, I apologize for the lapse in judgment.
Load More Replies...I'm a woman, and I have always "manspread" unless I'm wearing a skirt or dress, although I pull everything in to make room if someone wants to sit near me. I've been scolded by other ladies for not sitting "ladylike" but I just don't care.
Blokes have meat and two veg between our legs; it's very unconformable sometimes to sit with your legs together so we spread them. It's nothing to do with taking anyone else's space. Why do people have to try and put sexism or the patriarchy into everything? We got squished and warm balls people, they needs to breathe.
Ugh that comment about dominance... *rolls eyes* Do they forget men have something hanging between their legs? :P So yeah, I'm with the guy in the next comment on this one. We all like to sit comfortable, (the guy in the last pic is taking it a bit too far though) and unless the train/bus is packed with people, it shouldn't be such a big deal to sit like that? Ofcourse if there are a lot of people that want a seat and guys still refuse to close their legs to make room, then they're just jerks :P (Note: wearing loose shorts without any underwear and "manspreading"... please don't... It's ok to sit like that but we don't need to see your junk) Another note, I hate words like mansplaining and all that.
Nope, the last guy is a d..k and most us guys hate that kind of person as well. He is taking up 3 spaces for nothing. He is the equivalent of a car taking up 3 parking spaces. And going commando in shorts is horrible for the family jewels. The skin on skin action is horrible and the skin down there is really sensitive, especially if you shave. Too bad so many people tend to go all out to be the worst kind of person they can be when the opposite is so easy to do.
Load More Replies...As soon as you pre-empt any term with the word "man", I assume you're sexist. Because you are. Believe me, for every man-splain there's a fem-splain, for every man-spread there's a fem-spread, and for every d******d out there, there's a cunthead too.
I think most people are inherently annoying in a social setting such as a train or a bus. You should feel lucky that you felt safe enough to explore your abilities to open your legs and play chicken with the man. As we all know, most of the world is dealing with more severe things that are 100 percent sexist- not just assumed sexism.
You would've got quicker results had you actually asked the man to adjust. I mean he did move when you pushed against him. just a thought
How is exposing your most sensitive parts an act of dominance? In all other species exposing your soft underside is an act of submission. Honestly, ladies, not everything is about us, sometimes men just exist with no thoughts of how to p**s off women everywhere. I know it is a hard concept to understand, but there it is.
Yeah, this argument is really...really....REALLY...stupid. Guys (like myself) spread out because it's more comfortable. But any half-decent dude will stop manspreading and suck it up if a woman politely comes up and asks if they can sit down. It has literally nothing to do with dominance. We just like being comfortable. :|
Yup, we are made to have huge muscles and the most sensitive s****y organs between our legs. I would call that a design flaw.
Load More Replies...OH.MY.GOD. This is beyond the pale. I hate the terms "mansplaining" now. Don't make me start hating this term too. Geez trying to take some power back doesn't mean you have to try to emasculate men you know. Who cares how they sit? God if everyone would just be a little less focused on the minutiae the things that matter might be taken seriously. Granted i didn't verify to see if this story about Madrid is true but if it is, WOW.
finally, someone f-ing said it! THANK YOU. I hate the terms "mansplaining" not because i'm a man, but i don't choose it. If i get to, i would love to be a unicorn or something prettier.
Load More Replies...you'd have thought we'd have evolved to be able to retract our 'junk' when it's not needed. but alas, we haven't...
Actually probably did at one point, and then evolution to decided to let it drop as it functions better cooler. Good idea in theory.. beside for when men actually have to move, and how exposed it is to damage :X
Load More Replies...Oh my word, more Femenist c**p. Soon enough there's gonna be "Manbreathing".
also, what the hell gives you the right to photograph strangers without their consent and plaster them all over the internet just because of your little hang up?
How on earth is it considered "dominant" to display your crotch? The most vulnerable area? Confident - yes. Relaxed and peaceful.
Ahhhhh yes let me display one of my most fragile areas that can be damaged easily.
Load More Replies...Next up: campaign to get shopping bag ladies and back-pack students of all genders to limit their space usage.
It doesn’t have much to do with dominance, heat, testicles or showing off. The female pelvis is wider (relative to her body) then that of men. It is uncomfortable for most men. Not all. And more natural to sit like that. Women have their knees together because of the wide pelvis creating more comfort like that. Its a biological thing. If you can’t stand it, look the other way. Ofcourse, a douche like the last picture deserves a well placed poolball in the middle.
It's a PUBLIC transportation. Why not do something completely radical, and be POLITE to the other travellers? It's not your sitting room, or your toilet, unless you're a total exhibitionist. When you display your genitals - man or woman - it's not for others benefit, but because you're lazy and selfish. If it's a PUBLIC place, be POLITE. As simple as that.
I once told a sociology teacher it was because men needed to conquer the space they occupied, while women knew they already owned it.
Thanks to this article, I have seen the error of my ways and will never sit with my knees more than 8 3/4" apart on public transportation. In fact, I have become a "masculinist," and the next time I see a woman's breasts in anything other than an uncomfortable brassiere, I will alert the authorities and put it all on Twitter.
I sit like this because it's comfortable. That has nothing to do with my balls or any other b******t, but because that's the position that my legs naturally end up in all by themselves when I sit down. If someone sits next to me I close my legs because that's civil, but it's damned uncomfortable and I have to concentrate on maintaining that position or my legs will go back to their natural resting position. This does not detract from the fact that guys who refuse to show consideration for other passengers on purpose are d***s.
What I am sick of is seeing arrogant, aggressive low class women behaving like the men they are attacking. Men have a different physiology, stupid woman. It's difficult to sit in modern clothing - look at 18C mens trousers and underwear and compare them - without considerable discomfort to the very sensitive testicles. They are pretty much driven to do it, and it's not "all about you". Few to none have the remotest interest in you, let alone want to "dominate" you. However, what good do you do by sitting down in a very unladylike and aggressive way without provocation? Have you ever tried approaching said male, getting his attention and saying, with a smile, "excuse me, but I would like to sit here. Could you leave me some space please?". I have, and it's always been "Oh, yes, I"m terribly sorry" and instant compliance. Try and be a little more considerate yourself next time, and maybe you will get some back.
Dominant crotch display is the most ridiculous thing I've seen today. Thanks for the laugh. Men sit like that because it's comfortable. I'm sitting spread-legged alone on my computer chair. That said, if you're sitting like that on a bus, and they're are people standing needing seats, you're a f*****g d**k.
This is funny and I get why this frustrates people, but for most guys, crushing our genitals between our legs is less-preferable than taking up a little extra space. The last pic is way out there, but there is a reason we don't normally slam our thighs together.
Why not just ask such a guy "can I please sit there" when he takes up space and you need the spot? I regularly do and they never say no.
They usually don't even realize they're taking so much space. They just naturally end up sitting like that. It's not different from having to ask people to let you pass because they didn't realize they were blocking the way. People have other things in their mind.
Load More Replies...Great. Now how about a post condemning people who take off their shoes and put their nasty feet up in public?
Also, mens hip joints are shallower and narrower meaning our legs are more naturally pointed outwards when sitting in a natural position. Women's tend to angle inwards. The best way to determine how you should sit for optimum comfort is to figure out the most comfortable way to squat. Also balls lol.
Ok i will give you that, as soon as women explain to me what the "Cleavage Thing" is all about. I hate it when a fat tit woman sits across from me with a 12 inch cleavage and then looks at me like I am some kind of pervert. Because women dominate with it. Big tits or tits in general regardless of size, big balls. Explain to me what the difference is... If you please.
Apparently crossing your legs can be bad for your health according to Brightside:https://www.google.nl/amp/s/brightside.me/article/why-you-should-never-cross-your-legs-96505/amp/
That guy gets it. I'm transgender, so I don't have to deal with the same genitals, but no matter WHAT you have, it's generally more comfortable to sit with your legs spread to SOME degree, and I don't have to try hard to imagine that the more you have in the general crotch region the less comfortable it is to squish it all together.
The only time man spreading annoys me is when I have to stand because a guy is almost doing a split across 3 seats on a semi crowded public bus. Yes this has happened.
And why didn't you just ask if you could sit next to him? I mean: you can always try... maybe he even answers with "yes" :-)
Load More Replies...Honestly, I think we all do this. I do it (My girl cousin yells at me and says “Sit like a LADY for goodness sake tf is wrong with you??”) but it is SO.FREAKIN.COMFORTABLE. I mean, I hate sitting up straight, legs closed, head high, and whatever else. I mean, I’m sitting like that now, not because I’m a jerk, but because I’m comfortable. Now if ladies are wearing skirts and dresses that’s different. Don’t open your legs like that in public please, even if you’re wearing shorts and undies. But I think we should just politely ask a person scoot over a bit so we can sit. No matter the gender. It’s not just guys doing this, girls do too.
What a sad f*****g loser. I'm suprised you don't sit with your legs far apart when sitting bearing in mind what a massive c**k you are.
the reason I spread slightly(VERY SLIGHTLY) is because of the way men and males going through puberty are made. imagine having two sensitive balls, that have moved out of place. I remember today sitting on the bus and squealing in pain because of the way my pants held my balls so tightly, they still ache but I don't like confrontation so I just tried my best to not spread my legs too much.
my grandad never sits with his legs wide open. He always has one lap on top of the other. If the reason they sit like this is their genitalia then why my grandpa never sits like that? He has balls too!
no offense but you can't be to sure but when a male crosses his legs depending on who the person is he might be able to cross his legs without hurting his balls
Load More Replies...Just close your legs, your breath stinks. (Heard in Jr. High School 1968)
That last dude deserves and accidental knee to the nuts from someone who has to stand. LOL!!!
The issue is the lack of consideration of those who DO NOT MOVE THEIR LEGS when others want to sit. Unless the idiot has paid full-price for his/her legs/bag to take up another seat AND has paid the full-priced fair for a passenger to have to stand because of this, the behavior is unacceptable.
Grammar-nazi kicking in: that's "full-priced FARE"
Load More Replies...“How can I be a professional victim today? Let’s write an article about how guys sit and accuse them of trying to show dominance towards us!”
Oh my God this is so stupid. Who gives a rats a*s how people position their legs when they sit?! I'm female and I sit like that when I'm at home as a matter of fact I'm sitting at home in my office chair right now with my knees apart..oh God call the news station and post it to twitter and Fuking stupid Book, whoops I meant Face Book
Why do people put c**p like this out there? Have they nothing better to do with their lives then to get hostile over a sitting position, specifically as it relates to men? Do they feel it necessary to challenge it with their own bodies? This is right up there with the "wrong way" to hang toilet paper.
Just a followup- The last gut reminded me of ME after I had surgery down on the inside of my thighs from a motorcycle crash. Again, there very well could be a perfectly valid reason to sit like that, and sometimes I still do because it hurts to close them.
O i will give you that as soon as women address " The Cleavage thing" I don't like it when some fat tit girl sits across from me with a 12 inch cleavage and then look at me like I am some kind of pervert.
Shut up loser. How does that affect your ability to sit down? You don’t get the argument being made.
Load More Replies...I always assumed it was testicle-related and not just hogging the space. But that guy in the last photo is definately being a jerk (or maybe he has a terrible itch going on down there and is trying to relieve it).
what is the real point for this? Im a guy and I do this cus my testicles do also get hot and pressured and I sometimes need to release it. Damn, this is getting on my f****n nerves with all this feminist bs.No offense to women. I respect all women
my question is why didn't she just ask him? i feel like asking would solve a lot of the "problem" - but that's just me
Because talking to him is inviting in a host of other burdens she shouldn’t have to deal with just to sit down.
Load More Replies...Basically the existence of men is a problem. They are inherently brutal, supposedly. Masculinity itself must be eradicated. This is summit of westernism. It’s peak post-humanism. And basically this is where the West has arrived at. Men are told they talk to much. They sit the wrong way. Just existing is a problem. But it’s a problem primarily for western men. Leave the West and, voila, you can leave behind the problem.
Don’t let the door hit you on the a*s on the way out.
Load More Replies...I don't normally take pubic transportation, but I was on light rail about a year or so ago. There was this guy who was spreading, and he kept going wider, making the woman sitting next to him very uncomfortable. She finally asked him to stop, but he just grinned and didn't answer. That's when *I'd* had enough. I looked directly at his crotch, said, dude, you don't have enough there to advertise, shut 'em all ready. Everyone on the train laughed (including the guys) and he gave that lady some space.
Kinda funny, if the situation were reversed and he made an equally derogatory comment to you, it would be considered sexual harassment. I think it's about time women were given the same restrictions men are in that respect. Maybe then you wouldn't be so disrespectful.
Load More Replies...Unless a guy has 18 testicles, there is no explanation for sitting with their legs spread open like the ones shown in these pictures.
Maybe when woman put their purses and bags on the seats beside them we can call that "woman spreading"
id explain to you why but I don't really know if someone with your IQ would even understand 1 fraction of what I'd tell you.
Load More Replies...im a women and i spread my legs like this while sitting not because i want to show dominance i just sit like that the only time i dont sit like that is when i am sitting next to a guy who is doing it because i want to give him space to be comfortable and thats it.
Wow. Some things just can't be "unheard". Knowing now how much space testicles apparently need to simply cool off, the pity I am going to feel for some people. Maybe we need to start handing out fans to these poor sufferers.
I'm a male, I don't care what you do if there's room to relax, but in crowded situations like a bus or train, you bring your knees together to make room for others, we've all seen this rude macho bullshtt before. both genders.
who ever this woman is, she needs to get a grip on her life! Is this all she has??
Who ever you are, you need a grip on your life! Is insulting this lady all you really have?
Load More Replies...I dont get it, is the issue a spatial one? True, some ppl lack civility and consideration but thats when you tell them or ask them to move. Maybe the woman is a peni-gynist?
Men do sit like that to be comfortable. They also scratch their balls a lot. Gentlemen do both of these things at home.
I really don't care how someone sits next to me, as long as I have room for my own legs too. I really dislike it when people come sit next to me and (slowly or not so slowly) take up more and more space till I have almost none left. Other than that I don't care about potential crotch displays, you standing on your hands, or laying upside down across the seat. Just give me my space and keep your clothes on, and we will be fine sharing a public bench or w/e.
Guys you don't want your balls boiling and crushed , try something else then Brazilian under wears , better yet none .
There's a range of between okay spread and a not okay spread, just don't do it to everyone
How does any woman KNOW why a man sits that way? Some women can be such d***s. Men have balls, they spread their legs for comfort. If our tits were between our legs, how the hell do you think we would be sitting. Stop bitching about everything a man does.
I'd almost bet that the ones doing the most complaining about "man spreading" would be the first to scream if one of the men, before closing his legs, adjusted the boys. I know having these meat/milk bags hanging off of my chest isn't all that comfortable, I couldn't imagine having something 1000 times more sensitive hanging between my legs being constantly pressed on by underwear and outerwear.
As a man I think that if a man or woman spreads their legs to where they basically taking up two seats worth of space it's too far. Yet if their knees stay within the space of one seat it's fine. But that is just my lonely opinion.
I am a lady, and not young, frankly I think this is ... a big to do about nothing. GET A LIFE !!!
This woman is an idiot. I would have just stood my ground and then let's see how far she gets with her passive aggressive moves. It it's crowded I make room for anyone to sit, if not, I will spread to my hearts content. If a woman like this tried something like this I'd tell her to move.
There's a difference between spreading your legs for comfort & spreading in an unconscious display of dominance. One is much more annoying & easy to spot. I think it's important to keep in mind though that some people are not visibly disabled but you sitting next to them might cause them serious pain that they'd rather not explain, so they spread out to signal that they need the space. Also the bag spreading thing is definitely not limited to women.
I really couldn’t give less of a f**k about how a man feels about this topic. They will never have a clue how hazardous it is to ride public transport as a woman and how s****y it is for us BECAUSE OF THEM and the nonstop harassment. Men are lucky we still let them ride the subway period.
i have cerebral palsy so have to spread and or stretch my legs all the time when sitting. does this mean i can scream ableism when someone tells me to top? cause thatd be funny as hell
Manspreading is a pretty big problem on the subways in NYC. The guys I know don't engage in this... so I don't buy the "I need to air out my balls" excuse. F*****g grow up, dudes. Everyone should be able to sit on the subway if they want to.
Great discussion guys! Saw some real claws coming out; at least we're talking. A friend of mine sat on a train, spread all cool & manly. Two girls opposite him, checking him out, giggling. The more they checked, the more cool & manly he felt until he realized he had a hole in his pants, no undies and his nuts were sitting neatly on the seat!!!! :D PS. I don't think I would ever tell a woman NOT to spread 'em; that would just be impolite...
My God, there is more important things in this world to worry and/or complain about! If only all of our problems plateaued at how someone sits.
Dear men, your balls aren't that sensitive. Try listening to women for once They aren't THAT sensitive? You moron...they are that sensitive and MORE. Try putting clothes pins on your nipples, THAT'S what it feels like when we are forced to sit with our legs together..... Try listening to men for once.....
we sit as we wish. what you want, is not our problem, and how we sit, is not your business.
Breasts are also uncomfortable to have pressed to your arms by someone else...just give each other some room!
On motives, the women are wrong and the man is right. However, it's a temporary minor discomfort, one that we experience daily all our adult lives. It's quite possible to be in a bit of discomfort due to something like a bit of s*****m caught under a bit of elastic while making a departmental presentation, and continue on determinedly anyway. Spread legs are for comfort, and we do it when we're alone. But closed legs are in the same line of courtesy as holding a door, saying thank you, helping old folks across the street. And like those actions, there are those who do it instinctively out of consideration for others, and those who do not.
Notice how often men do it, hunched over, with their hands together. A lot of this is a genetic protective stance. The guy in the jeans with the phone, I have no explanation for. I have a photo of about 12 investigators, standing, in suits and ties, involved in a child kidnapping murder. Except for one or two, they stand with hands crossed in front of fly. The sexual nature of the crime emphasising it. When Obama did it, during flag pledge, it was called "crotch salute". It is anatomically sourced, anthropologically, and is no way meant to show dominance and disrespect. Get over it. If crowded, they close knees.
Note the width of the seat and DO NOT TAKE UP MORE THAN THAT! Dudes, keep your legs and hands inside the seat area. Ladies and kids, keep your bag on your lap. I don't care what your reason is for taking more than your share but CUT IT OUT! You aint here alone.
pretty sure the women across from you were laughing at how stupid you are
Total man-spreader here... I dunno how anyone can keep their legs together, man or woman. When I have to, I put my knees closer so I occupy 'my space' but my adductors (groin muscles) get damn sore. The natural relaxed position for me is knees apart. However, I recognize politeness and allow folks, men or women, to have their space. Definitely not a male dominance thing, its a physical comfort thing.
Maybe they need to carry a hernia donut cushion to give their nuts air and protection?
Personally, I've seen almost as much bag-spreading as man-spreading! I walk with a cane because I have trouble keeping my balance (thanks to multiple concussions) and I've had to stop in front of men taking up two seats in the "handicapped" seats, but also in front of women taking up THREE seats (one for themselves, one for their oversized purses and another for their display of jumbo name-brand shopping bags). Sometimes they (both sexes) eventually notice me, but sometimes I have to ask them to move. I usually give them a minute to wake up from their waking dreams and downsize a little, but then I WILL ask them to make room in a less-than-ladylike voice. Taking up more space than you've paid for and/or taking up "handicapped" spaces is just rude and it's definitely not gender-specific.
Old woman - only one seat left on the bus home, way in the back. Young jock-type man sitting with legs spread. Me: " Scoot over, dude, your junk isn't all that big." He got up and moved.
Men blame balls and point to women putting bags on seats. We have breasts and don’t want [heavy] bags on our tits. This is another example of why none of us deserve nice things.
Am I the only one who noticed that the last guy pictured is doing a split. That dude is seriously limber. Props
None have any idea what the other has to go through. This society have to must of their mind focused on sex.
Firstly. Just by necessity, a man needs more room. His JUNK (oops! Did I offend more of your sensitivities?). Like it or not, large or small or HUMONGOUS, it's there and needs more room then the "side saddle sitting" you oh so wish on the world.
A suggestion if one wants to have more room on puplic transportation is to wear a surgical face mask and cough often. Few will want to sit next to you.
Well, what do you expect? My subjectivity ‘assigned gender’ includes this fleshy sack that doesn’t like to be crushed or heated, damn you heteronormativity and the Patriarchy TM... but please, do tell me how that handbag you have taking up space next to you isn’t inconveniencing other commuters ;)
I guarantee if he had been standing and happened to see her sitting like that, he wouldn't have cared at all. The reason he was uncomfortable is probably because she sat right up next to him and tried to take up the space that had already been taken by his legs. We really do sit like that in private, and it really does come naturally as a way of making your balls more comfortable. While dominance signaling through body language is a thing, I really really really don't think that this is an example of it.
It is like if we would live in Orwell 84. You can't even sit how you want, because some sitting positions means you are not true believer of the Collective what means you are rebbel scum! These idiots makes me mad.
If ya wanna sit like that ladies go hard.. don't mind at all. I personally sit with a leg over another. Like a Figure Four leg lock(if you watch WWE/WWF you will understand. Just more comfortable I find. But go hard.. not offended if ya do.. would love to see more woman sit as they feel comfortable.
wonder if men feel "uncomfortable" when women "confront" them with their tits out? double f*****g standard. get a life. the only way this is "uncomfortable" is if theyre taking up my seat. some women make me uncomfortable with their body parts in my face but I cant say s**t.
They not very nice, I wouldn't want to such a selfish person, would yo?
Is that guy in the last photo a retired NYC ballet dancer? Holy c**p. Nice seated second position, dude.
If there are plenty of seats available who cares what people do with the space around them? But if the bus is packed it's nice when people are considerate of those around them.
I am delighted to come to the Comments section and find a bunch of rational responses to this post. For goodness sakes. They are a lot of jerks out there mo doubt, but talking about over analyzing a situation. Even if a guy is subconsciously spreading out to show his dominance, due to our social expectations and manners they would immediately retract their stance as to not inconvenience others. Again that is what a normal male would. To be honest I don't ride public transportation all that often but I would assume most of these people are paying attention to looking at soft porn on YouTube than trying to claim their space on a bus.
You know I understand, that makes sense but you don't have to spread your legs ALL THE WAY (not saying all men do this, but 2/3 men I've ever seen do that spread their legs all the way) and I don't care if you do it at home, that's fine just preferably keep your legs as close as is comfortable if you're sitting somewhere in public where someone might want to sit next to you, you don't need a woman to do the same to get the message you should know as soon as someone sits next to you to close your legs more.
This is not an attack on men, I don't have anything against men and once again: I'm not saying all men do this, this just based off of what I have seen and I hope it doesn't come off as rude
Load More Replies...I think the guy in the last photo looks ridiculous, and if there is a shortage of open seats there's no excuse for that posture. But just to play devil's advocate for a second, is it possible that closing his legs would cause his knees to block more than half of the aisle? Could sitting like that make it more convenient for people to walk past? I very rarely use public transportation so I have no idea of the dimensions. Maybe he just had a vasectomy, and he's spreading like that because they're still a little tender? Maybe there's some kind of heat rash involved, or something horrible he picked up in some den of iniquity? Next time you see a guy sitting like that, ask him if he's sitting like that because he's been boinking farm animals again.
I’m a lady (adult, almost 30) and I sit spread slightly, like the cover photo for this post. It’s more comfortable than dainty leg crossed woman sitting. Conversely, my boyfriend sits like L from death note, always.
wow - that's a lot of thinking for what seems pretty obvious to everyone - dude's have dangly bits...danlgy bits more comfy when not smushed.... don't be a d**k and make the person next to you fit in half a seat, but if there is room that no one is using I couldn't care less about how you sit. I frequently sit cross - legged which takes up an awful lot of room too but I wouldn't do that if it looked like someone might want/need the space to sit in
The dangly bits sit at the front, I believe, so they need better undies.
Load More Replies...sorry I think this is stupid women do put their bags etc on seats next to them and to be honest a lot of ladies behinds are so large they spill onto the other seat sorry ladies can't have it all your own way if you can dish it out you must be able to take it
I don’t want to carry a heavy bag across my large breasts for the duration of my commute.
Load More Replies...I'm sick of people using the term "man-spreading" like it's the most terrible thing in the world and every man is terrible for doing it, they have frigging JUNK okay? Imagine having something that's incredibly sensitive right between your legs and it's uncomfortable to put even slight pressure on it, stop saying guys have to stop caring about being comfortable and maybe we can all be considerate about each other. P.S I'm a woman and I sit with my legs open half the time
Periods. Many men (Maybe not you or anyone you associate with) like to complain about how women act on their periods. Yes it's frustrating to be chastised by something you find natural but women have had to deal with this s**t for years. Again, I'm not specifically referring to you or comparing period pain to ball pain.
Load More Replies...People just get Offended by everything nowadays, don't they. Not a question. However, the jerk in the last picture is simply being a jerk.
I don't necessarily think he's being a jerk, I just think he's oblivious. He's like those people who stand stock still in the aisle of the grocery store and talk to friends. They're not jerks, they're just not fully aware of others. They're probably nice people (maybe) ordinarily but they don't think.
Load More Replies...I don't think, that many of us do these things intentionally, especially since there are is not many rules in our societies for boys as for girls. It's not just men spreading, but also public scratching of crotch, putting down the toilet seat or even pee on porcelain and not directly to the water, so everyone can be delighted by the sound of the "stream". It's all about the time of socialisation of children, I grew up surrounded by women and they constantly commented my behaviour and I just had to find a ways how to not be obnoxious on public and yet remain comfortable. Testicles issue is a real thing, but if there is no norm some guys will never learn how to "adjust" their business discretely to not bother others around with spreading around the bus. I really hate see some male friend touching himself on public and spreading like moron ... you feel uncomfortable? Well, there is variety of men underwear, it's like with bras, they are not all various of them for different occasion
Tfw you're a guy reading this and you cross your legs, everywhere and anywhere
I want to know what the male perspective dealing with spreaders. You walk into a car, dude is spreading into the only seat available and you want to sit down. What's your reaction?
Open your mouth and ask to sit. If they're so incredibly rude that they'd deny you the space to sit, do you really want to sit next to them?
Load More Replies...Crotch display is a sign of dominance? Um...no. sitting like that is just more comfortable. It prevents my legs from getting stiff or cramping up. If they start to ache, then I cross them. If they start to ache again, I cross them a different way. I'm all for feminism, but petty complaints like this are just stupid. If ANYONE is taking up a lot of space in a seat (legs, arms, bags, purses, etc.) and doesn't shift themselves or move their stuff to allow someone else to sit down (unless they are pregnant, disabled, or elderly), then they aren't "manspreading," or "pursespreading," or whatever. They are just being an a*****e.
Some people do spread their legs. It doesn't always have to be gender thing. It's all about etiquette and being a decent human being. Why people always love to turn everything into a gender issue? Can we just focus on something that really matters right now instead of arguing about manspreading, mansplaining, and whatsoever? There are women who are currently being the object of oppression, there are minority who struggles or to fit in, there are shootings, poverty, rape, and discrimination. Can we take JUST A SECOND, to stop this first world problem b******t? To think about those women and men all over the world who are being exploited and oppressed? And to actually do something useful instead of drawing a very big line to separate us as human being?
o.O Is...is it first of April already? Please tell me it is. Because otherwise I don't want to live on this planet anymore. It scares the hell out of me to imagine I'm on the same planet with the "guys sit with spread legs to express their dominance" girl. Oh yeah and I'm a girl, if anything.
"Dear men, your balls aren't that sensitive. Try listening to women for once" OMFG are you stupid? They aren't THAT sensitive? I tell you what moron: put a couple of clothes pins on your nipples and see how that feels......that's what having balls feels like when we're forced to close our legs on them.
I dont have testies and even I splay a bit. Why? CAUSE MY THIGHS SWEAT. It's not about f*****g dominance or being rude, it's f*****g comfort. I swear I feel ashamed to be female most of the damn time with idiots like these...
why do women alway abuse men? women have oppressed and commited violence against men for over 5 thousand years when will women stop hurting men? why?
I doubt that men feel that insecure and bad when someone else is spreading legs. I do it all the time and men just move a little, continuing doing whatever. Sorry, but sometimes you cannot just offend someone by copying their actions.
If women had balls and therefore sitting spread eagled was most natural for them, feminists would be fighting for wider seats and telling any man who told them to close their legs a misogynist.
This chickmis passive aggressive and more rude to stoop to a man who is spreading level. Men spread their legs because we have stuff between our legs and is hella uncomfortable to squeeze ot all in all the time. Im getting sick of this mentality where woman plays victims alk the damn time.
Louder With Crowder did a segment on this. I watched their YouTube video. They gave women a wearable crotch piece and then told them to sit comfortably and they would immediately spread their legs. They explained that it's a sensitive area that you don't want to squash. It's like having breasts between your legs. I gained a whole level of understanding of men that day.
I think it's because it takes muscles to keep your legs together, and if you want to relax you don't put them together. And trust me, men are WAAAYYY to unconcerned with trying to attract a woman with their "packages". Doesn't even enter their mind. They just unconsciously "know" they look good. Anyone who does this thinking it will turn on a woman is sick in the head and you should move your seat.
The whole .dominant bullcrap is leftist/feminazi c**p designed to belittle men as most feminazi agenda is. Notice I didn't say feminist .. because the real (not radical) feminist actually has a brain and doesn't just jump on the manhating bandwagon. One wakeup call to all you idiot feminazis is that sooner or later you will be left cold and alone, and not even donors will want anything to do with you. The world is changing and your doctrine is no longer tolerated. As for the sitting position, if nobody is currently sitting next to you, you sit the way that offers the most comfort .. but in current society you have so many people that will get butthurt over anything. It has come to the point of absolute ridicule. Current US society has men so afraid to 'live' because they might do that a woman will take insult to, that we have to walk on eggshells. It is no wonder that it is increasingly more and more common to stay single.
Wow...really women? You think men do this out of dominance? Younger men who's testicles have not dropped yet have quite a bit of difficulty as it's hard to keep their legs closed due to the fact that they will crush their testes, older men can actually sit with one leg over the other like a woman as their testes can now rest on their lap. The guy in the photo not only is pretty far spread out and has two bags on the seat...yeah he might be a jerk, but he's also strutting some pretty tight britches and when you close your legs with those on you get some serious pinching going on. Most men will respect you and we do not do it out of disrespect, just like you need leeway for your breasts, we need them for our testes. A major problem with society today...a lack of respect, from both sexes. Oh...and yes.... a man's testes do drop when he reaches a certain age for those of you women and younger men that don't think so....just something we men have to look forward to as we get older...lol
This appears to just be another horrible thing men do so some women can complain and look to be the warrior princess.
A guy who spread his legs in metro in Istanbul recently received a 6 months jail time. Spreading your legs is a sexual harassment in Turkey now, and as a woman I'm happy.
My husband says - I'm a men, but guys with spreaded legs (wider than it's needed) makes sick me too. It's not showing their domination, it's showing only how fools and egoists they are.
I avoid sitting next to males on public transport, where possible. The manspread is real.
I get so tired when guys claim they do this or that cause they have testicles, many men have showed me already that they sit PERFECTLY fine with their legs crossed etc WITH testicles. Ladies, lets walk in tight areas with our arms out because we got boobs shall we?
Not a problem so long as no woman complains when I reach down (on the outside of my pants) and lift up twig and berries that are sitting in between so they don't get crunched. Lots of women look at you like you're beating off when you just shift around to get rid of the "batwing" so you can be comfy. Take it easy, ladies. You remove wedgies, I shift my nuts. No big deal.
How many of us are going to be thinking of this discussion in a public place next time we see a guy sitting like this? Ha ha.
Load More Replies...If I want more space I'll show I want more space, don't care who sits how. Whatever
so you dont notice men complaining if you are all standing on a packed bus and a woman has large tits that she cant help but spread out forwards into someones face do you ! i have large boobs that i cant do anything about,just like my man has large nuts, should we chop them off or something
My bf has started confronting guys who do this by putting his leg against theirs, if this doesn't work to make them close their legs, then he'll rub his leg against theirs until they do. A lot of people sit with their legs spread a bit, but not to the extent of some. I've seen some men take up 3 seats on the bus with this c**p. I've also seen some women take up 3 seats with bags and purses. It's unacceptable from either gender.
What a load of s**t. Spread legs are for comfort. Can I ask all you snowflakes to get a life....!!!!
The man in the picture above is a complete idiot. Period. He just wants the world to think he matters. He does not.
When you are trying to prove a point, using a b******t staged photo, like the guy at the end doesn't help your point.
Just another thing to have a go at men for... much like the 'Me too' campaign that has turned into a Macarthy style witch hunt. Just leave men alone to be who they want to be.
Really? You're equating this with the Me Too campaign? So a guy who sits normally on a train is the same thing as a douche bag who sexually harasses someone? The Me Too campaign is about women sharing their stories of being sexually harassed. Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Your last statement sounds like you think you should be able to do whatever you want. Your disbelief in women's stories of harassment shows what kind of a "man" you are. F**k that. This is apples and oranges.
Load More Replies...Babies feed off those breasts nobody feeds off a guys c**k... Well no child... Well no willing child... Our world is f****d
Load More Replies...No. It isn't. I am a feminist and I love (frickin' LOVE) men. By the way, my Dad has cancer. I would beg to differ sir/madame. Unless you are suffering with cancer please do not use phrases like that. Actually, even if you are suffering with cancer please do not use phrases like that. Just because you either do not understand what feminism is or you think you only understand what the misguided "militant feminists" are or you only have seen those who are not intelligent about what they do....frankly you're painting every single person in that group with one brush and it's not a smart thing to do. In any case, whatever you believe in that's your deal but the cancer thing? Not cool.
Load More Replies...Uh that’s kind of rude. I know PLENTY of men that demand a lot of the road. And women too. Men ain’t angels, women and men are equally rude in some cases and equally kind.
Load More Replies...Does it look "rude" if a woman doesn't wear a bra? Or is that okay?
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