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Lady Leaves Family Thanksgiving Dinner As Mom Hides Her Cake And Brings Out Own “Back-Up” Pie
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Lady Leaves Family Thanksgiving Dinner As Mom Hides Her Cake And Brings Out Own “Back-Up” Pie

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Among the many things that can be offensive to any person, mistrust stands out. We solemnly swear to be together until death, in joy and sorrow – and then demand paternity tests. We send an employee on vacation after a surgery – and immediately find them a replacement. We give a million-dollar contract to a quarterback – and at the same time find him an equivalent backup…

Mistrust permeates our world, and it’s especially offensive when this mistrust comes from our parents. Because, it would seem, who else but them should always morally support their children? Even if they are long grown up. But no – and our story today is further confirmation of this.

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    The author of the post has a 60-year-old mom, with whom she has always had a strained relationship

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    The mom has always let herself criticize the daughter for her life choices and belittle her achievements

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    However, the woman recently attended a traditional family Thanksgiving gathering with her parents, brother, SIL and other relatives

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    The author’s mom usually makes pumpkin cake for the holiday, but this time she asked the author to make dessert – and she made a maple cheesecake

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    However, it turned out that the mom had baked a pumpkin pie too – “as a backup,” so when she served it to the guests, the woman just left without any words

    So, please meet the Original Poster (OP), a 32-year-old woman who has a brother and a 60-year-old mother, with whom she recently attended a Thanksgiving dinner. In fact, her relatives do not come over that often – after all, the brother and his wife live in South Africa, but once a year, they pay tribute to the family tradition.

    This was the case this time too – and this time the author’s mom asked her to make a cake. Usually, the mother herself makes dessert for the holidays – always a pumpkin pie, but this time our heroine decided to change traditions. Firstly, she doesn’t like the taste of pumpkin, and secondly, she decided to just make something special: in this case, a maple cheesecake.

    It must be said that our heroine has always had a rather tense relationship with her mom. Since very childhood, she has constantly pestered her with various passive-aggressive remarks, belittling literally all of the daughter’s choices. The OP has repeatedly told her mom that she doesn’t like such criticism, but she always stated that it was just her manner of communication.

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    However, in fairness, the original poster admits that the mother has never allowed herself to make such remarks towards her son. As for the author, she has constantly faced criticism of her career, personal life, lack of children, and many, many other things. And this year’s Thanksgiving was no exception…

    As it turned out, the mom, even knowing that the daughter was making the cake this time, still baked her usual pumpkin pie – “just as a backup.” And, what’s more, she put the maple cheesecake in the fridge and started cutting her own pie for the guests. Our heroine was upset, offended – and simply got up, took her coat and left, ignoring calls to return.

    And then the woman received an angry text from her mother, who accused her of being “rude and disrespectful.” And the rest of her relatives didn’t approve of her behavior either. But the original poster is sincerely convinced that she is the injured party here. So she decided to seek some support online.

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    “Unfortunately, passive aggression is a ‘favorite technique’ of many mothers when communicating with adult children. Parents often choose one child who meets their expectations more – and behave completely inappropriately towards the other. Or others,” says Irina Matveeva, a psychologist and certified NLP specialist, whom Bored Panda asked for a comment here.

    “And for some reason, parents are absolutely sure that such hints, teasing and veiled criticism are capable of having some effect. And if any effect is achieved at all, then it’s quite the opposite of what is desired by them. But, unfortunately, many outdated parental behavior patterns are like that.”

    “In the aforementioned situation, it seems to me that this woman should simply minimize communication with her mother – since repeated requests to stop such behavior have had no effect. It’s worth concentrating on herself, on her own needs and solving her problems. Perhaps, over time, the parents could change their attitude – although one shouldn’t count on it,” Irina concludes.

    Well, unlike her relatives, people in the comments to the original post supported the author, and expressed real sympathy. “You’re not close for good reason. Your mom can’t even be nice and civil for one evening. Next year, decline the invite,” one of the responders urged the original poster. “Feel free to not holiday with them again,” another one agreed.

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    As for the author’s behavior, the commenters are also almost certain that she wasn’t wrong. “You did the right thing by leaving when you felt like you could take no more. You don’t need to reply to those texts. They didn’t ask a question to reply to,” one more commenter wrote. “They didn’t offer an apology to accept or decline. So what would you need to reply to? Ignore it and go on with your best life.” And do you, our dear readers, also agree with these opinions?

    People in the comments, unlike the woman’s fam, gave her both support and sympathy, urging her to go no-contact with her passive-abusive mom

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    Rūta Zumbrickaitė

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    Hi! Nice to meet you~ I'm very passionate about animals, especially cats, photography, small DIY projects, music and so much more! Could say I am the TV show The Office connoisseur since I have seen it at least a dozen times~

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    Lyoness
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm horrified that OP thinks they "messed up" their life with depression. No. Just no. If they ever read this: It's the depression that's messy hon, not you. You don't get a choice in it and it's not your fault. As for your mother, run. Mine was abusive this way (and yes, it's abuse, not showing she cares) and you don't need that happy crappy in your life. People on BP jump to NC but in this case it's warranted.

    Gwyn
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If my mother treated me that way all my life I'd be depressed too

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    TribbleThinking
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your mother set you up, and deliberately. Nice that your depression is being used to hurt you - did you know that someone who actually loves you would take depression as a cue to cosset you, not to punch you down further? She's your mother in the biological sense, not a "mother" in the way that society has us associating with warmth, caring and (note this) SAFETY.

    AKA AKA
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    her dad needs to take of his rose tinted specs and see the mother for what she really is

    Ash
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It doesn't work like this, they've been living with their spouse for the whole life in their own little world they have developed their own view of things as a result of their relationship.

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    Gwyn
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP needs to go to therapy, to understand what her mother has done to her. You can see how crushed she has become by her statement that she didn't want to cry in front of everyone for no reason, and that she made a mistake that ruined her life. My guess is that she's been belittled her whole life and not just by her mother, but by brother and dad as well. She's probably been told she's oversensitive and has been beat down for any thing she does that didn't meet some expectation. I think going to a therapist would help her realize that her feelings are valid and everyone makes mistakes in their lives, and it doesn't mean that she's a bad person or that her life is actually ruined. I feel really sorry for her - her family really did a number on her. I hope that she can realize what a valuable person she is and goes NC with the family.

    Traveling Lady Railfan
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Although often nutritionally unnecessary, I am a big fan of having multiple dessert options. 10 people at dinner, 2 would rather have B instead of A, no problem! But this was a deliberate attack on OP. Not making the backup (just in case) but SAYING "I expected you to fail, so I did your work for you...let's ALL eat MY dessert INSTEAD" (oh you want some of hers? NO!) Then boo-hooing that OP leaving quietly at that point was RUINING THANKSGIVING!!! OP recently suffered a depressive episode? Gee, wonder why. A lifetime of such treatment would destroy my mental health too

    Carney
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh boy...yes, you are absolutely NOT at fault here. Frankly, I wonder about your mother's mental health more than yours. Does she get pleasure from putting you down? Is seeing you as "lesser than" important to her for some reason? You have made mistakes in your life...who hasn't Depression is an ILLNESS not unlike cancer of another horrid disease. It is not a character flaw. It does not define your value. The only true "sick" thing here is your mother's attitude and behavior. She has chosen to discount and dismiss you and that is unforgiveable. People, particularly parents, do this type thing when they need to see someone as inferior and to blame that person for all the negative things in their own life. You do NOT owe anyone an apology. One thing to keep in mind is that in many families one person is singled out to be the focus of family disharmony. That person is treated as inferior and unworthy of respect or even full participation. In your family you may be this person.

    Robert Beveridge
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1. Get up 2. Go into kitchen 3. Retrieve cake 4. "accidentally" put cake stand down on top of pie. 5. Done and dusted.

    Rachel Wasserman
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mom is definitely TA here. She set OP up to fail. That being said, who only serves ONE dessert? I don’t think my parents have ever even hosted a casual gathering with only one dessert, never mind a major holiday.

    karma rose
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a huge family and there was a total of 8 different desserts (cherry pie, two different types of pumpkin pie, pecan pie, some kind of fluff thing, apple pie, etc.) at Thanksgiving her mom would would have hated how many flavors were there. I find it rude that the mom was only serving the pumpkin pie and refusing the requests for cheesecake. Mom wanted to hurt her child's feeling and succeeded.

    Elaine Lavallee
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I also had a mother who didn’t like me and made nasty comments about and to me throughout my childhood. It would be OK to cut her off completely, but if you choose not to, then start standing up to her! EG, you could have said “Mom, I made the pie and I want it to be served”, then go and get it and bring it out yourself! Stop letting her get away with gaslighting you! If you immediately stand up for yourself in front of others, I guarantee her behavior will stop. She keeps doing it because everyone is allowing her to, including you. Exposing her by calling her out immediately will shine a bright light on this behavior. My therapist told me to do this, and it worked beautifully!

    Schmebulock
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know some times accidents like the pie getting dropped or knocked off the table happen.

    MoMcB
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot understand being such a horrible mother. My daughter is a great cook now, and experiments a lot, some of her early experiments were interesting... but I'd eat it and smile regardless. Why would you hurt someone you love like that?

    Kim Gatlin
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd eat a turd pie if my precious daughter made it. But please don't give her any ideas. The smartass apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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    Robin Roper
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope the OP cuts her family out; they aren't healthy for her. Find another place to be for holidays, volunteer, take a vacation, invite friends to her house, anything but be with these awful people.

    Yvonne Dauwalder Balsiger
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, some wise YTA comments I absolutely approve! These people absolutely don't deserve you or your maple cheesecake! Please find some people who do. Unfortunately quite a lot of families are just a bunch of dysfunctional bullies, screw the "YoU oNLy HavE 1 FaMiLy" people.

    kath morgan
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mother is the big ärsehole. Brother and dad are lesser ärseholes for going along with mummy’s bad behaviour and not even trying the cheesecake when they wanted to like adults.

    gilliansl aka Gillian Silverlight
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depression is an illness and can run you over big time. Get help for that. THAT said, I love pumpkin pie (also pecan, apple, cherry, and cobblers) But my big love is cheesecake! Maple (gack! No bacon!) cheesecake sounds WONDERFUL!!!! I'd have insisted on a piece! Your mother sounds almost as abusive as my own. Unless not seeing your dad or brother is a deal-breaker... Make your own thanksgiving tradition. Stay home, save the money. Anyone who makes cheesecake sounds great to me.

    michele mbennett101044@yahoo.c
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry my dear but your mom was incredibly RUDE and DISRESPECTFUL. Your dad is a wimpy a*****e for defending her behavior towards you. Full on No Contact with any of these relatives is in order for their deplorable behavior as well, for Christ's Sake, texting and gaslighting you for her boorish behavior!?!? Not only did you do the right thing by leaving this pack of hyenas but you should have taken you cheesecake with you. Serious "Come to Jesus" talk with your parents is in order to let BOTH of them and the others why you have decided to cut them loose. Move on with your life, be healthy and happy without them, you deserve to be surrounded by people who truly love and appreciate you. BTW my granddaughter cannot stand the texture of pumpkin pie and I would never deride her for that, that's why we always offer a variety of choices.

    Stephany Brown
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have taken that cheesecake back and ate it by myself back home. Screw her for behaving like a toddler not being the center of attention then saying you had the outburst.

    patricia Torres
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's just horrible. You are not to blame for someone else's psychotic tendencies. You are you and as such your feelings are true to you as everyone else is entitled to their own feelings. Feelings don't have be shared or expressed equally by all. Your sensitivity to how your mother treats you is further proof that you cannot rely on her advice or reactions as concrete viable honest truth. I'm sure your cheesecake was excellent, it's your mother that has issues here. You simply reacted to her continuous abuse over the years. It takes a long time for most people to get over growing up in abusive rearing. Your mind hasn't healed, being an adult doesn't mean all that abuse just disappears or magically doesn't hurt your adult self. It's the abusers fault and whomever told you to grow up and stop crying about the past ,is full of themselves. It's only as an adult that you begin to realize traumas and work through them at your own pace. No one heals the same.

    Annie
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I started cooking the entire Thanksgiving & Christmas dinners when I was a kid because my mom was apparently a princess in previous life & would never do it. When dinner was ready & we'd all sit down to eat, she'd take a bite & say, "This tastes funny." Every. Single.Time. Maybe OP should try something like that, but try to couch it in terms like, "The pie tastes OK, but the crust was so soggy." OR "The turkey was really dry this year for some reason." Just find little ways to passive-aggressively criticize the food since mom obviously takes a lot of pride in it. That's if OP ever even goes back again.

    Still Going
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had a difficult relationship with my mother most of my life. Finally, when I was in my 40s, she said something hurtful to me (again) and instead of replying, I asked, "Mom, does it make you feel better to hurt me?" She looked shocked, but then tilted her head, looked at me for a few long moments, and said, "Yes". Some people can't help it; all you can do is back away and, hopefully, stop being a convenient target for someone else's nastiness and cruelty. Instead of OP feeling that she messed up her life with depression, maybe she can think about how she became depressed. The support she may not have gotten, the coping mechanisms that she had to set in place as a young child (I know I did) whether they're healthy or not...life isn't only what you make of it, it's also learning who's tearing down what you're building. Quietly walking out of mom's house after another attack is the best thing OP could've done, in my opinion.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your Mother has spent 32 years developing your triggers and uses them liberally. You did the right thing by leaving. Please tell me you will find some loving friends to spend Christmas with.

    Mybellybuttonleaksglitter
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have to wonder if the mother is jealous for some reason. It doesn't make it ok but but it's like she hates her daughter and that's just so weird to me so I think it might be jealousy. Like maybe the daughter is living moms dream life or something.

    Freddy M. (He/Him)
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds less like she acts like a neurotic teenager around her mother, and more like her mother treats her like one

    Nitka Tsar
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am not a professional but somehow I think Mommy dearest might have a lot to do with that depression of hers. I bet Mommy destroyed her self esteem and more. Time to get a psychiatrist and probably go NC with the whole lot of them. They don’t sound healthy.

    Stephan Kolakowski
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People bang heads with parents and family. When they are dead and gone then you may miss them. Too late. Only have one mom and dad.

    Anne Allen
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The daughter only did one thing wrong; she should have retrieved the Maple Cheesecake before she left.

    Zaineb Bookwala
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of the Friends episode where Monica's mom ask her to cater a party but has back-up frozen lasagna cause she expects a screw-up. OP should have just served her dessert too and say, let ppl decide what they want.

    Yulia Yakovenko
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1. It called “ the last straw which broke the camel back “, it’s not “irrational “ 2. Annually event staple - abusing OP for fun. This is rational either ( and disgusting). 3. Brother lives in good place, he is not a hero- don’t back backwards for him. (Mama sweet for him because he is rich?) 4. Tell them you will NC from now on, and you live if she starts again, but better don’t come at all. )

    Gail O'Dell
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Bye bye, Mom. Sorry I can’t make it next year.” Maybe stick to an occasional lunch date with Mom. Quick, public venue so she likely won’t hurt your feelings.

    S&P
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The poll at the end isn't a very good one, and missed the point entirely, cuz this ain't about trust or being cautious. This is about control and propping yourself up as the center of attention by stomping down someone else. Pure and simple. This mom sounds like pretty much every woman in my family. Best thing I could ever recommend to anyone in this kind of situation, is to get therapy, and get the heck away from her.

    Becky Farmer
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good grief we could be related. My family was the exact same way until I finally took the initiative and stopped attending any and all family functions. Although my Mom went one better, she assigned the dining room table for the "couples" and instructed me to sit with the kids on the back porch (I was in my 30's). Funny thing I came out on top. I was closer to all the food. Once I stopped attending the functions my life was definitely better and I've never regretted it. More power to you, stay strong.

    Michelle Waits St John
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel this so much. I agree with most of the comments, don't go next year and maybe she will transfer her passive aggression to someone else.

    Somebodys grandmother
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have loved that cheesecake... And when di people discover that depression is a physsical disease because a part of the brain lacks blod! Or doesn't get the blood it needs... Having a mother like that doesn't help 🤗

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    Lyoness
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm horrified that OP thinks they "messed up" their life with depression. No. Just no. If they ever read this: It's the depression that's messy hon, not you. You don't get a choice in it and it's not your fault. As for your mother, run. Mine was abusive this way (and yes, it's abuse, not showing she cares) and you don't need that happy crappy in your life. People on BP jump to NC but in this case it's warranted.

    Gwyn
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If my mother treated me that way all my life I'd be depressed too

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    TribbleThinking
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your mother set you up, and deliberately. Nice that your depression is being used to hurt you - did you know that someone who actually loves you would take depression as a cue to cosset you, not to punch you down further? She's your mother in the biological sense, not a "mother" in the way that society has us associating with warmth, caring and (note this) SAFETY.

    AKA AKA
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    her dad needs to take of his rose tinted specs and see the mother for what she really is

    Ash
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It doesn't work like this, they've been living with their spouse for the whole life in their own little world they have developed their own view of things as a result of their relationship.

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    Gwyn
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP needs to go to therapy, to understand what her mother has done to her. You can see how crushed she has become by her statement that she didn't want to cry in front of everyone for no reason, and that she made a mistake that ruined her life. My guess is that she's been belittled her whole life and not just by her mother, but by brother and dad as well. She's probably been told she's oversensitive and has been beat down for any thing she does that didn't meet some expectation. I think going to a therapist would help her realize that her feelings are valid and everyone makes mistakes in their lives, and it doesn't mean that she's a bad person or that her life is actually ruined. I feel really sorry for her - her family really did a number on her. I hope that she can realize what a valuable person she is and goes NC with the family.

    Traveling Lady Railfan
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Although often nutritionally unnecessary, I am a big fan of having multiple dessert options. 10 people at dinner, 2 would rather have B instead of A, no problem! But this was a deliberate attack on OP. Not making the backup (just in case) but SAYING "I expected you to fail, so I did your work for you...let's ALL eat MY dessert INSTEAD" (oh you want some of hers? NO!) Then boo-hooing that OP leaving quietly at that point was RUINING THANKSGIVING!!! OP recently suffered a depressive episode? Gee, wonder why. A lifetime of such treatment would destroy my mental health too

    Carney
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh boy...yes, you are absolutely NOT at fault here. Frankly, I wonder about your mother's mental health more than yours. Does she get pleasure from putting you down? Is seeing you as "lesser than" important to her for some reason? You have made mistakes in your life...who hasn't Depression is an ILLNESS not unlike cancer of another horrid disease. It is not a character flaw. It does not define your value. The only true "sick" thing here is your mother's attitude and behavior. She has chosen to discount and dismiss you and that is unforgiveable. People, particularly parents, do this type thing when they need to see someone as inferior and to blame that person for all the negative things in their own life. You do NOT owe anyone an apology. One thing to keep in mind is that in many families one person is singled out to be the focus of family disharmony. That person is treated as inferior and unworthy of respect or even full participation. In your family you may be this person.

    Robert Beveridge
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1. Get up 2. Go into kitchen 3. Retrieve cake 4. "accidentally" put cake stand down on top of pie. 5. Done and dusted.

    Rachel Wasserman
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mom is definitely TA here. She set OP up to fail. That being said, who only serves ONE dessert? I don’t think my parents have ever even hosted a casual gathering with only one dessert, never mind a major holiday.

    karma rose
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a huge family and there was a total of 8 different desserts (cherry pie, two different types of pumpkin pie, pecan pie, some kind of fluff thing, apple pie, etc.) at Thanksgiving her mom would would have hated how many flavors were there. I find it rude that the mom was only serving the pumpkin pie and refusing the requests for cheesecake. Mom wanted to hurt her child's feeling and succeeded.

    Elaine Lavallee
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I also had a mother who didn’t like me and made nasty comments about and to me throughout my childhood. It would be OK to cut her off completely, but if you choose not to, then start standing up to her! EG, you could have said “Mom, I made the pie and I want it to be served”, then go and get it and bring it out yourself! Stop letting her get away with gaslighting you! If you immediately stand up for yourself in front of others, I guarantee her behavior will stop. She keeps doing it because everyone is allowing her to, including you. Exposing her by calling her out immediately will shine a bright light on this behavior. My therapist told me to do this, and it worked beautifully!

    Schmebulock
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know some times accidents like the pie getting dropped or knocked off the table happen.

    MoMcB
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot understand being such a horrible mother. My daughter is a great cook now, and experiments a lot, some of her early experiments were interesting... but I'd eat it and smile regardless. Why would you hurt someone you love like that?

    Kim Gatlin
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd eat a turd pie if my precious daughter made it. But please don't give her any ideas. The smartass apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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    Robin Roper
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope the OP cuts her family out; they aren't healthy for her. Find another place to be for holidays, volunteer, take a vacation, invite friends to her house, anything but be with these awful people.

    Yvonne Dauwalder Balsiger
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, some wise YTA comments I absolutely approve! These people absolutely don't deserve you or your maple cheesecake! Please find some people who do. Unfortunately quite a lot of families are just a bunch of dysfunctional bullies, screw the "YoU oNLy HavE 1 FaMiLy" people.

    kath morgan
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mother is the big ärsehole. Brother and dad are lesser ärseholes for going along with mummy’s bad behaviour and not even trying the cheesecake when they wanted to like adults.

    gilliansl aka Gillian Silverlight
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depression is an illness and can run you over big time. Get help for that. THAT said, I love pumpkin pie (also pecan, apple, cherry, and cobblers) But my big love is cheesecake! Maple (gack! No bacon!) cheesecake sounds WONDERFUL!!!! I'd have insisted on a piece! Your mother sounds almost as abusive as my own. Unless not seeing your dad or brother is a deal-breaker... Make your own thanksgiving tradition. Stay home, save the money. Anyone who makes cheesecake sounds great to me.

    michele mbennett101044@yahoo.c
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry my dear but your mom was incredibly RUDE and DISRESPECTFUL. Your dad is a wimpy a*****e for defending her behavior towards you. Full on No Contact with any of these relatives is in order for their deplorable behavior as well, for Christ's Sake, texting and gaslighting you for her boorish behavior!?!? Not only did you do the right thing by leaving this pack of hyenas but you should have taken you cheesecake with you. Serious "Come to Jesus" talk with your parents is in order to let BOTH of them and the others why you have decided to cut them loose. Move on with your life, be healthy and happy without them, you deserve to be surrounded by people who truly love and appreciate you. BTW my granddaughter cannot stand the texture of pumpkin pie and I would never deride her for that, that's why we always offer a variety of choices.

    Stephany Brown
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have taken that cheesecake back and ate it by myself back home. Screw her for behaving like a toddler not being the center of attention then saying you had the outburst.

    patricia Torres
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's just horrible. You are not to blame for someone else's psychotic tendencies. You are you and as such your feelings are true to you as everyone else is entitled to their own feelings. Feelings don't have be shared or expressed equally by all. Your sensitivity to how your mother treats you is further proof that you cannot rely on her advice or reactions as concrete viable honest truth. I'm sure your cheesecake was excellent, it's your mother that has issues here. You simply reacted to her continuous abuse over the years. It takes a long time for most people to get over growing up in abusive rearing. Your mind hasn't healed, being an adult doesn't mean all that abuse just disappears or magically doesn't hurt your adult self. It's the abusers fault and whomever told you to grow up and stop crying about the past ,is full of themselves. It's only as an adult that you begin to realize traumas and work through them at your own pace. No one heals the same.

    Annie
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I started cooking the entire Thanksgiving & Christmas dinners when I was a kid because my mom was apparently a princess in previous life & would never do it. When dinner was ready & we'd all sit down to eat, she'd take a bite & say, "This tastes funny." Every. Single.Time. Maybe OP should try something like that, but try to couch it in terms like, "The pie tastes OK, but the crust was so soggy." OR "The turkey was really dry this year for some reason." Just find little ways to passive-aggressively criticize the food since mom obviously takes a lot of pride in it. That's if OP ever even goes back again.

    Still Going
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had a difficult relationship with my mother most of my life. Finally, when I was in my 40s, she said something hurtful to me (again) and instead of replying, I asked, "Mom, does it make you feel better to hurt me?" She looked shocked, but then tilted her head, looked at me for a few long moments, and said, "Yes". Some people can't help it; all you can do is back away and, hopefully, stop being a convenient target for someone else's nastiness and cruelty. Instead of OP feeling that she messed up her life with depression, maybe she can think about how she became depressed. The support she may not have gotten, the coping mechanisms that she had to set in place as a young child (I know I did) whether they're healthy or not...life isn't only what you make of it, it's also learning who's tearing down what you're building. Quietly walking out of mom's house after another attack is the best thing OP could've done, in my opinion.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your Mother has spent 32 years developing your triggers and uses them liberally. You did the right thing by leaving. Please tell me you will find some loving friends to spend Christmas with.

    Mybellybuttonleaksglitter
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have to wonder if the mother is jealous for some reason. It doesn't make it ok but but it's like she hates her daughter and that's just so weird to me so I think it might be jealousy. Like maybe the daughter is living moms dream life or something.

    Freddy M. (He/Him)
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds less like she acts like a neurotic teenager around her mother, and more like her mother treats her like one

    Nitka Tsar
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am not a professional but somehow I think Mommy dearest might have a lot to do with that depression of hers. I bet Mommy destroyed her self esteem and more. Time to get a psychiatrist and probably go NC with the whole lot of them. They don’t sound healthy.

    Stephan Kolakowski
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People bang heads with parents and family. When they are dead and gone then you may miss them. Too late. Only have one mom and dad.

    Anne Allen
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The daughter only did one thing wrong; she should have retrieved the Maple Cheesecake before she left.

    Zaineb Bookwala
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of the Friends episode where Monica's mom ask her to cater a party but has back-up frozen lasagna cause she expects a screw-up. OP should have just served her dessert too and say, let ppl decide what they want.

    Yulia Yakovenko
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1. It called “ the last straw which broke the camel back “, it’s not “irrational “ 2. Annually event staple - abusing OP for fun. This is rational either ( and disgusting). 3. Brother lives in good place, he is not a hero- don’t back backwards for him. (Mama sweet for him because he is rich?) 4. Tell them you will NC from now on, and you live if she starts again, but better don’t come at all. )

    Gail O'Dell
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Bye bye, Mom. Sorry I can’t make it next year.” Maybe stick to an occasional lunch date with Mom. Quick, public venue so she likely won’t hurt your feelings.

    S&P
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The poll at the end isn't a very good one, and missed the point entirely, cuz this ain't about trust or being cautious. This is about control and propping yourself up as the center of attention by stomping down someone else. Pure and simple. This mom sounds like pretty much every woman in my family. Best thing I could ever recommend to anyone in this kind of situation, is to get therapy, and get the heck away from her.

    Becky Farmer
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good grief we could be related. My family was the exact same way until I finally took the initiative and stopped attending any and all family functions. Although my Mom went one better, she assigned the dining room table for the "couples" and instructed me to sit with the kids on the back porch (I was in my 30's). Funny thing I came out on top. I was closer to all the food. Once I stopped attending the functions my life was definitely better and I've never regretted it. More power to you, stay strong.

    Michelle Waits St John
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel this so much. I agree with most of the comments, don't go next year and maybe she will transfer her passive aggression to someone else.

    Somebodys grandmother
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have loved that cheesecake... And when di people discover that depression is a physsical disease because a part of the brain lacks blod! Or doesn't get the blood it needs... Having a mother like that doesn't help 🤗

    ginshun
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