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Grandma Gets Kicked Out Of Lunch With 6YO After She Kept Saying It Was A Waste Of Money
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Grandma Gets Kicked Out Of Lunch With 6YO After She Kept Saying It Was A Waste Of Money

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Being frugal and aware of your spending habits isn’t a bad thing. It can help you save and prepare well for the future. The only times it isn’t good is when you make it other people’s problem. Sometimes penny pinchers go to extreme lengths to force their miserliness on other folks.

A woman was on the receiving end of her mother-in-law’s frugality during a Mother’s Day celebration. She reached out to people online to figure out if she went too far when setting boundaries with her miserly MIL.

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DIL pays for an extravagant Mother’s Day outing for her daughter, mother, and MIL only for husband’s mom to ruin the entire event by fussing about the money

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The poster’s 6YO daughter found out about a cafe that made princess cakes and served high tea, so the woman booked a table and planned a lavish outing to celebrate Mother’s Day early

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Despite the OP having paid for the entire event, her MIL kept complaining, calling it a “waste of money” and “pretentious,” even directing negative comments toward her granddaughter

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The woman confronted her MIL and asked her to keep her criticisms to herself and told her it was hard for her daughter to enjoy the day when someone was acting so negatively

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The poster asked her MIL to leave the event, which led to her complaining to the family that her DIL threw her out for being frugal, to which her husband insisted she should have kept the peace

The woman had set up a lavish and exciting celebration at a new cafe. She wanted her daughter to dress up and enjoy the princess cakes, while she, her mother, and MIL could celebrate Mother’s Day early. She was happy to witness her daughter’s joy and see her wearing her favorite dress for the outing. However, the poster soon realized that her MIL was not sharing in the festivities and was intent on bringing everyone’s mood down.

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Her husband’s mom is known to be a frugal woman, which is why she felt the whole outing was a waste of money. Her granddaughter was excited about the cakes and told her that princesses ate them, but the annoyed grandma retorted that it was only fit for birds. She found the whole experience pretentious and kept on making comments that were negatively impacting the kid’s experience.

Even though the poster mentioned that her MIL is frugal, judging from her reaction to the event, it’s likely that she is a stingy person. According to experts, people who are stingy struggle with compromise and often prioritize their financial interests over others. This can cause tension in relationships and even lead to conflicts. People might develop miserly habits due to various reasons, such as growing up in resource-limited environments or even because of low self-esteem and anxiety.

An important distinction between frugal and stingy people is that frugality does not mean you have to give up on a good quality of life when saving for something. Frugal people still enjoy different life experiences while sticking to their preferred budgets. Stingy people might keep saving up at the expense of their quality of life.

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Whether a person decides to save money in a reasonable manner or be miserly is their decision alone. The difficulty arises when they begin forcing their views on other people in the family. Money conversations with family members can create a whole host of problems, especially if there are complex emotions tied to the need to save money.

In this case, the woman was able to hold her own and stand up to her MIL, but she was worried that the woman’s criticisms would affect her daughter. She told netizens, “I was a little shocked by her comment saying that my daughter wouldn’t understand the criticisms. She might only be six, and probably doesn’t have all the words used in her vocabulary, but she absolutely understood the intent.” That’s why she told her husband’s mother to leave as she wanted her daughter to truly enjoy herself.

To cultivate a healthy atmosphere around the discussion of money matters in a family, it’s important that all members listen with a nonjudgmental attitude. By comparing perspectives, they can eventually find common ground and resolve conflicts. Each viewpoint has heavy emotions tied to it, which is why it’s important to listen actively and with empathy, even if you disagree.

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Budgeting is important, but it shouldn’t be the focal point, especially at someone else’s event. The interfering mother-in-law tried to teach her granddaughter about the value of money without realizing she was ruining the child’s experience. The viral post got 9.5k views and 1.8k comments, with people shocked at the in-law’s bad attitude even though she was getting a free meal. Have you ever dealt with such a stingy person? Tell us in the comments below.

Apart from supporting the poster’s decision to kick her MIL out of the event, netizens were shocked at the husband’s reaction and felt that he should have stood up for his wife

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Paul C
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is it that people always try to make the reasonable person in any argument keep the peace? They never, ever ask the unreasonable one to keep the peace.

Nitka Tsar
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because they know that the unreasonable person would never do it. So it is easier to persuade the reasonable one. Most often the reasonable person has done it already for quite some time. But there comes a moment when the reasonable person will have enough and just will not take it anymore. Plus: often times the people trying to persuade the reasonable one havn‘t had the same experiences and don‘t know the extend of it all

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Ripley
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, the 6 year old "is too young to understand the criticism" but "should understand the value of money". Please make that make sense! No, don't bother, because it never will.

Mary Guerinot
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Original Bruno - She DID try to deal with it by taking her mil away from the table and explaining that what she was saying was upsetting her granddaughter. She asked her to stop and was told no. She then told her that she either stop and move on or leave. The mil chose to leave. Please tell us, what else, exactly, you think she could have done to save the meal for her daughter? Sometimes the best (only) thing to do is take a stand and express your expectations. Also, where did you get the info about walking out of the marriage and breaking up the family? Or severing the relationship with his mother? I read this twice, but never saw this as something being considered. You really took a post and attributed your thoughts and ran with them, didn't you?

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Miah Lee
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While our young children, may not understand the words, being used, they can, do and will pick up on social cues. I don't know the MIL or her life, (poverty, food and financial insecurities will follow you.) Gratitude and the love for a child, especially one who hasn't had their imagination obliterated by the problems in the world, should always be something protected and nurtured. MIL wasn't paying for a thing, little girl, wanted to share something that made her happy with her mother and grandmothers. Happy memories, like this could have been will stick with her, for a life time. But, so will how she was made to feel. Husband needs to be thankful that his wife is willing to protect his daughter from BS like this. From now on, let him plan his mother's celebrations, and see how long it last.

Joann Hart
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At 6 most kids know and understand. Most of us don't raise our kids in a bubble. She has been to school (presumably) she knows mean

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Noproblem
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Taking a frugal MIL to a “pretentious, overpriced” high tea for Mother’s Day is like taking a vegan to a steakhouse for their birthday. Save those experiences for those who will appreciate & enjoy them. Otherwise it’s just a bad time all around.

Melissa Harris
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people would choose to be amused by the ridiculous pretension of high tea, others would just enjoy a free meal and a child's joy. This woman decided she needed to rain on everyone's parade to make herself feel better. It's so petty and selfish.

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Ms.GB
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because everyone knows the perfect time to teach a child about being frugal is on their birthday, at their birthday tea? MIL needs to learn that generally others do not want to be around negative people and this is especially true on celebratory occasions. She couldn't have played nice for a couple hours at her 6 yr old granddaughters birthday tea where she was eating for free? She absolutely needs to learn to shut her trap and enjoy the moment or at least let others enjoy the moment. Children have the rest of their lives to worry about money and become jaded.

Jessica Olson
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it is important to note that nothing she said or did would have taught her granddaughter about being frugal with money. It only taught her what a shriveled up shrew looks like.

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Vinnie
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6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The MIL had two options: shut up or leave. Now the OP knows not to invite Mrs. Scrooge anywhere (or maybe just MacDonald's or a place that has seniors' discounts). She will likely complain, but the OP can play dumb, "But I thought you would have a terrible time!" Nothing wrong with frugal people. This one goes beyond in being a mean-spirited miser who wants to impose her values on others.

Jeevesssssss
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If MIL was forking out then it'd be different - but she was being treated, ffs! She was totally in the wrong - it wasn't her money being 'wasted', and it was for mother's day, and for her granddaughter! And... you have a husband problem.

Jessica Olson
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's learn to deal with his mother over the years by capitulating. Probably because this started as a child when he was malleable. He needs to learn how to have a spine because obviously his mother made sure to not let him learn that lesson. Also what's with the compulsion of people having to compliment somebody's inner being when they're horrible person. This one example is proof enough that this woman's heart is definitely not made out of gold. No one that spews that much bitterness has a heart of gold.

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A S Mora
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't be inviting her to any events after that if I were that ma. If MIL has any sense she would be trying to make it up to the poor kiddo (she can easily do a DIY tea party at home for a reduced cost). Might be reconsidering the marriage as well.

Vinnie
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally agree with not inviting a crappy guest, even if they're family. As for the marriage, it's not unusual to think of divorce when a spouse is not supportive. However, discussions or counselling would be the preferred first step (unless one's situation is unsafe and one must flee). This can help determine if the other person can evolve, whether compromise is possible, and if all fails, make separation and divorce easier on all parties.

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Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what a six year old actually needs to learn? How to be grateful and get along with others. MIL was being a bad role model.

Lawpanda
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your husband and MIL clearly need lessons in both empathy and etiquette. She left of her own free will. Stomping on little kids happiness shouldn't be allowed by any person. It's hard to get that joy back tell husband to grow up and cut the apron strings from his tèsticles. Hope that comment took as much joy as MIL took from your daughter.

michele mbennett101044@yahoo.c
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both MIL and hubby are gaslighting OP . If someone else is footing the bill keep your opinions and BS comments to yourself, especially if you're supposed to be an adult. MIL chose to leave after being called out on her ridiculous behavior, in private as well, and is now blaming DIL. Way to go , b***h.

Gracie Mae
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6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA!!! I'm one of those grandmothers that 'panders' to my princesses with stuff like this! Your MIL, no matter how much of a heart of gold you think she has, you'd never convince me of it. I'm also one that believes in teaching kids financial responsibility, morals, manners, etc--but I would NEVER suck the joy out of a special occasion like your MIL did. And even if she didn't think your daughter would understand, I guarantee that she understood the tone in which it was delivered. You had every right to give her the choices you did (as the child's mother AND the one paying for it!)--she made the decision to leave instead of sticking a sock in it and letting everyone enjoy the time. I'm not even getting into your husband choosing to stick up for his mother rather than his daughter...I'm sure I'd run out of space here!

Joann Hart
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't imagine what kind of garbage this granny tells that child when she has her alone

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Paula Wynn
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, but your MIL sure is!!! She is the ADULT, and your daughter is a CHILD. MIL could've just chosen to delight in the joy on her grandchild's face instead. I'm sure the little girl felt responsible for suggesting the outing with her mommy. MIL also was being treated to the outing and should've looked at it as a GIFT! I was taught to never refuse a gift or make the giver feel it was unappreciated. Your MIL needs to grow up. Perhaps your daughter can show her HOW!!!

Cassi Lyris
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA: If she's not paying she has no say. She knows she's wrong which is why she's trying to preemptively triangulate other family members who weren't there to personally witness her $#itty behavior against the OP. -salt of the Earth poor person that would've loved a fancy and *FREE* afternoon with her granddaughter.

jbee02
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA complaining about wasting money when you are not paying is incredible rude! Plus she didnt give her the boot. She gave her the option to change her attitude or leave and she chose to leave on her own

Babbzilla
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like saving money is more important than having this alleged 'heart of gold's. Can we normalize calling the spade a spade? No Grandma with a "heart of gold" would dare be negative in front of their grandbaby who is clearly excited about Princess pancakes and high tea. I'm 36 years old and my mom supports my high tea/ tea party shenanigans. (My sister too but she's Celiac and can't join me for high tea 🥲)

Joann Hart
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To bad you weren't capturing the moment on video. Your hubby and all could have heard her commentary. Ay 6 your daughter more than understands, I'm surprised she didn't well up and cry a bit and ask grandma herself why she had to rain on her special day.

Terry Rex
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bad MIL and bad husband for siding with her instead of his wife.

fu yu
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother-in-law acted more like a child than the actual child who attended the same event. I'd never ask that old killjoy out to another event again; sounds like she's in desperate need to take afternoon naps or the very least have a Snickers bar.

Jessica Olson
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate to break it to that woman, but her mil does not have a heart of gold. Her heart is a sour apple more like. Otherwise she would have been able to keep her mouth shut to begin with without being told. Ps- The poll also has nothing to do with what the grandma was doing. You can totally teach a child about money and responsibility without being a jerk and a wet blanket. (Should have been a poll about keeping your mouth shut if you can't say something nice).

Kitchap
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've known people who continually b***h about something costing what it does and it ruins everyone's good time. I feel for OP and her daughter. Maybe the husband is a killjoy just like his mom?

April Dancer
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For my parent's 60th wedding anniversary, they chose to treat their 4 daughters, 1 daughter in law,& all their nieces, to afternoon tea at The Ritz. They weren't interested in going themselves but got a lot of enjoyment out of treating us. They even laid on a minibus to London. My eidest, notoriously tight, sister complained it was too expensive. Bear in mind that it was costing her absolutely nothing. There are some wonderful photos of us all having the time of our lives...apart from that sister, sitting there with a face like a wet weekend. After the tea finished we still had a little time so went into a cocktail bar & treated ourselves to a drink. I had a ridiculously expensive mocktail which was delicious. Those were the only things we bought ourselves. She sat there, silent, at the table & refused to order. She's not rich, none of us are, but we could all easily afford a drink.She then wanted to email a list of 'complaints' to try a get a refund.

Livingwithcfs
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

MIL was acting entitled. She was taken out, she wasn't expected to pay for her tea. She was being ungrateful and I probably wouldn't have been as polite as OP was.

Joann Hart
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the DIL could have imagined this would happen, she could have planned ahead and asked about menus without prices

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Traveler
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Your MIL is a killjoy! It was a special day for her granddaughter and she couldn't STFU! She was only thinking about her selfish self and not her granddaughter. MIL leaving was the best thing for your daughter. And although his mother is important, Daddy needs to be reminded of who are the MOST IMPORTANT people....his wife and daughter, and he needs to make sure his mommy dearest understands that.

Adnew
Community Member
6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was the event for OP's daughter or to celebrate Mother's Day? Sometimes one stone can't kill two birds.

Gwyn
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you imagine being treated to high tea and then complaining about everything? Rude AF

tom oneill
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your daughter, your treat, your money...that old b***h has no right to say anything about it.

Mandie Zimmer
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids are very receptive and are always listening. They are smarter and know more than most adults give them credit for. Does this mean that a six year old can do complex budgeting and multiplication? Probably not. But they are clever enough to know when things are being said that are hurtful and know when others are not interested in the things that bring them joy. As for math and teaching basic economics to a six year old? Come on... What grandparent does that in their spare time other than the curmudgeons? I can't get most parents to cover basic math flash cards I send home with their second graders. Let the kid enjoy her special treat. It's not like she gets to do this everyday (where the money would definitely make a difference).

MamaDee1959
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And I bet that this wasn't the FIRST time the MIL complained about something like this. I would definitely have NOT invited her to ANYTHING due to her frugality. My mother was exactly the same-- always negative, always complaining, always finding it necessary to comment on how expensive something was, and to top it off, her favorite line was... "If you can afford THAT, you could have given ME that money!" WHAT?? I cut her out of my life years before she died, and never regretted it once! Grandma doesn't DESERVE to be in the little Princess's orbit, and hubby needs to decide whose side he is on!

Tessa Thompson
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course high tea is ridiculously overpriced. It's high tea! It's a splurge. MIL shouldn't have gone in the first place if she's going to cr@p all over it the whole time. It would have been unacceptable if everyone present was an adult. That there was a 6 y/o present who was Really Enjoying Her Princess Experience makes what MIL did totally and completely unacceptable. You DO NOT smother a child's joy for no reason other than you think the kid needs a dose of reality. There's time enough for her to take on the weight of reality tomorrow. Today, let her dance in the clouds.

alloutbikes@yahoo.com
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to know how OP was supposed to keep the peace? MIL wasn't going to shut her pie hole about the servings, the price, the Princess-ness and so forth. Except for duct tape what did precious sonny want done?

clairebear
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Six year old does not need to know about value of money at a treat. She knows it is a special treat. She also knows MIL is a sour old b***h and always moaning. Teaching her to accept the old woman but be aware of her faults would be of more value. She should have took her daughter to the toilet and had a chat about MIL having issues and daughter is to ignore her. Six year olds understand more than you think.

Melissa anderson
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

MIL sounds like a miserable person and wants to make sure everyone else feels as miserable as she does. She sucks the fun out of life.

Lena Flising
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This was, in effect, a gift from DIL to the both grandmas. To criticize and put down a gift is pretty rude. If you don't like a gift, you either just say "Thank you," and put it away somewhere, perhaps donate it in a couple of years, or you say "What a nice gift! I'm sorry, though, I already have a very similar one. Do you have a receipt so I can change it to something equally nice?". In this case, MIL could have checked out the place, seen that it's way too pricey for her taste, and politely declined the invitation. To say that it's a waste of money when it's already been paid for and in the middle of using it, THAT is a waste of time, and waste of money for MIL's food.

Sparkysheep
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6 months ago

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Carrie
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Although Ido very much disagree that happiness isn't free. True happiness IS already free to us. Jesus Christ offers joy and eternal life, although the catch was it cost Him plenty big.

The Original Bruno
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6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, but the over-reactions of the commenters are so much larger than anyone else's over-reactions. I think everyone is getting social-media versions about how perfect everyone always is. I'd've just said, "well, if it is overpriced, let's just get every ounce of pleasure out of it we can!" Here's a tip: watch Everybody Loves Raymond. It's hysterical. The in-laws are both a piece of work. And poor Debra has to put up with them easily ten times any normal amount. Now, unless they are some order of magnitude worse than those in-laws, OP needs to do what she can to keep sane, but understand that these struggles are just part of life. They can screw up, you can screw up and once in a while handle their screw-ups poorly, but dealing with them makes you a better person. OTOH, SHE left; you didn't force her away. That's on her.

Joann Hart
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

T.V. honey. We are talking a 6 yr old exited over mother's day high tea with the most important ladies in her life and one is a curmudgeon that has to throw ice water on it when she is not paying for it.

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Paul C
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is it that people always try to make the reasonable person in any argument keep the peace? They never, ever ask the unreasonable one to keep the peace.

Nitka Tsar
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because they know that the unreasonable person would never do it. So it is easier to persuade the reasonable one. Most often the reasonable person has done it already for quite some time. But there comes a moment when the reasonable person will have enough and just will not take it anymore. Plus: often times the people trying to persuade the reasonable one havn‘t had the same experiences and don‘t know the extend of it all

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Ripley
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, the 6 year old "is too young to understand the criticism" but "should understand the value of money". Please make that make sense! No, don't bother, because it never will.

Mary Guerinot
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Original Bruno - She DID try to deal with it by taking her mil away from the table and explaining that what she was saying was upsetting her granddaughter. She asked her to stop and was told no. She then told her that she either stop and move on or leave. The mil chose to leave. Please tell us, what else, exactly, you think she could have done to save the meal for her daughter? Sometimes the best (only) thing to do is take a stand and express your expectations. Also, where did you get the info about walking out of the marriage and breaking up the family? Or severing the relationship with his mother? I read this twice, but never saw this as something being considered. You really took a post and attributed your thoughts and ran with them, didn't you?

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Miah Lee
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While our young children, may not understand the words, being used, they can, do and will pick up on social cues. I don't know the MIL or her life, (poverty, food and financial insecurities will follow you.) Gratitude and the love for a child, especially one who hasn't had their imagination obliterated by the problems in the world, should always be something protected and nurtured. MIL wasn't paying for a thing, little girl, wanted to share something that made her happy with her mother and grandmothers. Happy memories, like this could have been will stick with her, for a life time. But, so will how she was made to feel. Husband needs to be thankful that his wife is willing to protect his daughter from BS like this. From now on, let him plan his mother's celebrations, and see how long it last.

Joann Hart
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At 6 most kids know and understand. Most of us don't raise our kids in a bubble. She has been to school (presumably) she knows mean

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Noproblem
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Taking a frugal MIL to a “pretentious, overpriced” high tea for Mother’s Day is like taking a vegan to a steakhouse for their birthday. Save those experiences for those who will appreciate & enjoy them. Otherwise it’s just a bad time all around.

Melissa Harris
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people would choose to be amused by the ridiculous pretension of high tea, others would just enjoy a free meal and a child's joy. This woman decided she needed to rain on everyone's parade to make herself feel better. It's so petty and selfish.

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Ms.GB
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because everyone knows the perfect time to teach a child about being frugal is on their birthday, at their birthday tea? MIL needs to learn that generally others do not want to be around negative people and this is especially true on celebratory occasions. She couldn't have played nice for a couple hours at her 6 yr old granddaughters birthday tea where she was eating for free? She absolutely needs to learn to shut her trap and enjoy the moment or at least let others enjoy the moment. Children have the rest of their lives to worry about money and become jaded.

Jessica Olson
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it is important to note that nothing she said or did would have taught her granddaughter about being frugal with money. It only taught her what a shriveled up shrew looks like.

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Vinnie
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6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The MIL had two options: shut up or leave. Now the OP knows not to invite Mrs. Scrooge anywhere (or maybe just MacDonald's or a place that has seniors' discounts). She will likely complain, but the OP can play dumb, "But I thought you would have a terrible time!" Nothing wrong with frugal people. This one goes beyond in being a mean-spirited miser who wants to impose her values on others.

Jeevesssssss
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If MIL was forking out then it'd be different - but she was being treated, ffs! She was totally in the wrong - it wasn't her money being 'wasted', and it was for mother's day, and for her granddaughter! And... you have a husband problem.

Jessica Olson
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's learn to deal with his mother over the years by capitulating. Probably because this started as a child when he was malleable. He needs to learn how to have a spine because obviously his mother made sure to not let him learn that lesson. Also what's with the compulsion of people having to compliment somebody's inner being when they're horrible person. This one example is proof enough that this woman's heart is definitely not made out of gold. No one that spews that much bitterness has a heart of gold.

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A S Mora
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't be inviting her to any events after that if I were that ma. If MIL has any sense she would be trying to make it up to the poor kiddo (she can easily do a DIY tea party at home for a reduced cost). Might be reconsidering the marriage as well.

Vinnie
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally agree with not inviting a crappy guest, even if they're family. As for the marriage, it's not unusual to think of divorce when a spouse is not supportive. However, discussions or counselling would be the preferred first step (unless one's situation is unsafe and one must flee). This can help determine if the other person can evolve, whether compromise is possible, and if all fails, make separation and divorce easier on all parties.

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Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what a six year old actually needs to learn? How to be grateful and get along with others. MIL was being a bad role model.

Lawpanda
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your husband and MIL clearly need lessons in both empathy and etiquette. She left of her own free will. Stomping on little kids happiness shouldn't be allowed by any person. It's hard to get that joy back tell husband to grow up and cut the apron strings from his tèsticles. Hope that comment took as much joy as MIL took from your daughter.

michele mbennett101044@yahoo.c
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both MIL and hubby are gaslighting OP . If someone else is footing the bill keep your opinions and BS comments to yourself, especially if you're supposed to be an adult. MIL chose to leave after being called out on her ridiculous behavior, in private as well, and is now blaming DIL. Way to go , b***h.

Gracie Mae
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6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA!!! I'm one of those grandmothers that 'panders' to my princesses with stuff like this! Your MIL, no matter how much of a heart of gold you think she has, you'd never convince me of it. I'm also one that believes in teaching kids financial responsibility, morals, manners, etc--but I would NEVER suck the joy out of a special occasion like your MIL did. And even if she didn't think your daughter would understand, I guarantee that she understood the tone in which it was delivered. You had every right to give her the choices you did (as the child's mother AND the one paying for it!)--she made the decision to leave instead of sticking a sock in it and letting everyone enjoy the time. I'm not even getting into your husband choosing to stick up for his mother rather than his daughter...I'm sure I'd run out of space here!

Joann Hart
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't imagine what kind of garbage this granny tells that child when she has her alone

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Paula Wynn
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, but your MIL sure is!!! She is the ADULT, and your daughter is a CHILD. MIL could've just chosen to delight in the joy on her grandchild's face instead. I'm sure the little girl felt responsible for suggesting the outing with her mommy. MIL also was being treated to the outing and should've looked at it as a GIFT! I was taught to never refuse a gift or make the giver feel it was unappreciated. Your MIL needs to grow up. Perhaps your daughter can show her HOW!!!

Cassi Lyris
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA: If she's not paying she has no say. She knows she's wrong which is why she's trying to preemptively triangulate other family members who weren't there to personally witness her $#itty behavior against the OP. -salt of the Earth poor person that would've loved a fancy and *FREE* afternoon with her granddaughter.

jbee02
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA complaining about wasting money when you are not paying is incredible rude! Plus she didnt give her the boot. She gave her the option to change her attitude or leave and she chose to leave on her own

Babbzilla
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like saving money is more important than having this alleged 'heart of gold's. Can we normalize calling the spade a spade? No Grandma with a "heart of gold" would dare be negative in front of their grandbaby who is clearly excited about Princess pancakes and high tea. I'm 36 years old and my mom supports my high tea/ tea party shenanigans. (My sister too but she's Celiac and can't join me for high tea 🥲)

Joann Hart
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To bad you weren't capturing the moment on video. Your hubby and all could have heard her commentary. Ay 6 your daughter more than understands, I'm surprised she didn't well up and cry a bit and ask grandma herself why she had to rain on her special day.

Terry Rex
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bad MIL and bad husband for siding with her instead of his wife.

fu yu
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother-in-law acted more like a child than the actual child who attended the same event. I'd never ask that old killjoy out to another event again; sounds like she's in desperate need to take afternoon naps or the very least have a Snickers bar.

Jessica Olson
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate to break it to that woman, but her mil does not have a heart of gold. Her heart is a sour apple more like. Otherwise she would have been able to keep her mouth shut to begin with without being told. Ps- The poll also has nothing to do with what the grandma was doing. You can totally teach a child about money and responsibility without being a jerk and a wet blanket. (Should have been a poll about keeping your mouth shut if you can't say something nice).

Kitchap
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've known people who continually b***h about something costing what it does and it ruins everyone's good time. I feel for OP and her daughter. Maybe the husband is a killjoy just like his mom?

April Dancer
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For my parent's 60th wedding anniversary, they chose to treat their 4 daughters, 1 daughter in law,& all their nieces, to afternoon tea at The Ritz. They weren't interested in going themselves but got a lot of enjoyment out of treating us. They even laid on a minibus to London. My eidest, notoriously tight, sister complained it was too expensive. Bear in mind that it was costing her absolutely nothing. There are some wonderful photos of us all having the time of our lives...apart from that sister, sitting there with a face like a wet weekend. After the tea finished we still had a little time so went into a cocktail bar & treated ourselves to a drink. I had a ridiculously expensive mocktail which was delicious. Those were the only things we bought ourselves. She sat there, silent, at the table & refused to order. She's not rich, none of us are, but we could all easily afford a drink.She then wanted to email a list of 'complaints' to try a get a refund.

Livingwithcfs
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

MIL was acting entitled. She was taken out, she wasn't expected to pay for her tea. She was being ungrateful and I probably wouldn't have been as polite as OP was.

Joann Hart
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the DIL could have imagined this would happen, she could have planned ahead and asked about menus without prices

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Traveler
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Your MIL is a killjoy! It was a special day for her granddaughter and she couldn't STFU! She was only thinking about her selfish self and not her granddaughter. MIL leaving was the best thing for your daughter. And although his mother is important, Daddy needs to be reminded of who are the MOST IMPORTANT people....his wife and daughter, and he needs to make sure his mommy dearest understands that.

Adnew
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6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was the event for OP's daughter or to celebrate Mother's Day? Sometimes one stone can't kill two birds.

Gwyn
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you imagine being treated to high tea and then complaining about everything? Rude AF

tom oneill
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your daughter, your treat, your money...that old b***h has no right to say anything about it.

Mandie Zimmer
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids are very receptive and are always listening. They are smarter and know more than most adults give them credit for. Does this mean that a six year old can do complex budgeting and multiplication? Probably not. But they are clever enough to know when things are being said that are hurtful and know when others are not interested in the things that bring them joy. As for math and teaching basic economics to a six year old? Come on... What grandparent does that in their spare time other than the curmudgeons? I can't get most parents to cover basic math flash cards I send home with their second graders. Let the kid enjoy her special treat. It's not like she gets to do this everyday (where the money would definitely make a difference).

MamaDee1959
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And I bet that this wasn't the FIRST time the MIL complained about something like this. I would definitely have NOT invited her to ANYTHING due to her frugality. My mother was exactly the same-- always negative, always complaining, always finding it necessary to comment on how expensive something was, and to top it off, her favorite line was... "If you can afford THAT, you could have given ME that money!" WHAT?? I cut her out of my life years before she died, and never regretted it once! Grandma doesn't DESERVE to be in the little Princess's orbit, and hubby needs to decide whose side he is on!

Tessa Thompson
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course high tea is ridiculously overpriced. It's high tea! It's a splurge. MIL shouldn't have gone in the first place if she's going to cr@p all over it the whole time. It would have been unacceptable if everyone present was an adult. That there was a 6 y/o present who was Really Enjoying Her Princess Experience makes what MIL did totally and completely unacceptable. You DO NOT smother a child's joy for no reason other than you think the kid needs a dose of reality. There's time enough for her to take on the weight of reality tomorrow. Today, let her dance in the clouds.

alloutbikes@yahoo.com
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to know how OP was supposed to keep the peace? MIL wasn't going to shut her pie hole about the servings, the price, the Princess-ness and so forth. Except for duct tape what did precious sonny want done?

clairebear
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Six year old does not need to know about value of money at a treat. She knows it is a special treat. She also knows MIL is a sour old b***h and always moaning. Teaching her to accept the old woman but be aware of her faults would be of more value. She should have took her daughter to the toilet and had a chat about MIL having issues and daughter is to ignore her. Six year olds understand more than you think.

Melissa anderson
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

MIL sounds like a miserable person and wants to make sure everyone else feels as miserable as she does. She sucks the fun out of life.

Lena Flising
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This was, in effect, a gift from DIL to the both grandmas. To criticize and put down a gift is pretty rude. If you don't like a gift, you either just say "Thank you," and put it away somewhere, perhaps donate it in a couple of years, or you say "What a nice gift! I'm sorry, though, I already have a very similar one. Do you have a receipt so I can change it to something equally nice?". In this case, MIL could have checked out the place, seen that it's way too pricey for her taste, and politely declined the invitation. To say that it's a waste of money when it's already been paid for and in the middle of using it, THAT is a waste of time, and waste of money for MIL's food.

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6 months ago

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Carrie
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Although Ido very much disagree that happiness isn't free. True happiness IS already free to us. Jesus Christ offers joy and eternal life, although the catch was it cost Him plenty big.

The Original Bruno
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6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, but the over-reactions of the commenters are so much larger than anyone else's over-reactions. I think everyone is getting social-media versions about how perfect everyone always is. I'd've just said, "well, if it is overpriced, let's just get every ounce of pleasure out of it we can!" Here's a tip: watch Everybody Loves Raymond. It's hysterical. The in-laws are both a piece of work. And poor Debra has to put up with them easily ten times any normal amount. Now, unless they are some order of magnitude worse than those in-laws, OP needs to do what she can to keep sane, but understand that these struggles are just part of life. They can screw up, you can screw up and once in a while handle their screw-ups poorly, but dealing with them makes you a better person. OTOH, SHE left; you didn't force her away. That's on her.

Joann Hart
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

T.V. honey. We are talking a 6 yr old exited over mother's day high tea with the most important ladies in her life and one is a curmudgeon that has to throw ice water on it when she is not paying for it.

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