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Professor Adds A Fake Question In His Exam To Catch Cheaters & Catches 14 Students Red Handed
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Professor Adds A Fake Question In His Exam To Catch Cheaters & Catches 14 Students Red Handed

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I was one of those weird kids in school who never cheated during a test. Just the idea of being caught sent a chill down my spine. It was a bit too much to handle for my tiny anxious brain.

However, this did not stop any of my classmates from cheating. There were often mini-competitions for whoever had the smallest handwriting or the best way of hiding their cheat sheets. It got gradually insane with every test they took. If anything, they seemed like adrenaline junkies now that I think about it.

Engineering students underestimated their “of age” professor’s cheating detection…

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A Reddit user by the name of Mwxh recently shared a story about how their engineering professor took cheating detection to the next level. The students underestimated their “of age” professor, who took a modern approach to solving modern problems.

Bored Panda got in touch with Mwxh, the Reddit user who posted the story. He is currently a 4th-year Engineering Major at a Division 1 College.

… resulting in this impressive story By Mwxh on Reddit

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A lot of people were left surprised that students are allowed to leave the exam for a bathroom break just like that. “As I said in the only comment I made in that thread, classes in my department generally just let people leave in the middle of the exam and come back, which I have a serious problem with,” explained Mwxh. And who wouldn’t—it opens up a horizon of ways for people to cheat, which is by no means fair to other students.

What is worse, nobody seemed to have any clue as to this being a trap: “I don’t think anyone thought it was a trap since it’s relatively common in this department. He didn’t say anything about it until he e-mailed us after the exam,” said the Reddit user.

Even though the professor meant well, this, in turn, lead to the question of ethics. Was the professor allowed to, effectively, publicly shame students for cheating, when educational institutions generally have a more respectful way of dealing with them? “I think it’s unethical for sure since it would have been much easier for him to just ban students from leaving the room,” elaborates Mwxh. “Though, I don’t know if the department has a specific rule about it or not. Anyway, even if not, I have no sympathy for the cheaters and hope they kicked out of the school.”

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We asked the Reddit user whether there were any developments in the story. He had this to say: “I e-mailed the professor the link to this thread when it blew up and also pointed out that some comments said that sharing the names of students would violate FERPA. I haven’t heard back from him. And I haven’t heard anything else in real life about it since he sent the e-mail out.”

As the years go on and technology advances, cheaters will surely find new and more efficient ways to cheat. However, the lesson to be drawn from this story is to never underestimate the opposition—professors have degrees for a reason. Don’t underestimate their power to detect cheating. Even if it is unethical.

Do you have a cheating story to share? Why not talk about it in the comments below?

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Magpie
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good work. But it is not revenge, it is just a correction. These brats need to learn that the rules Do apply to them.

John C
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To all those claiming "entrapment" or why didn't the teacher just disallow phones/bathroom breaks - I would argue that the teacher is TEACHING by doing this. He's doing the cheaters a favor by allowing them to learn this lesson while the stakes are relatively low. Well done.

deanna woods
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Comedy class professor just took up all of our phones before the exam began, problem solved. If I was a professor I would also take up smart watches as well. Just a thought.

Parmeisan
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pretty easy to bring two phones, though. One as a decoy to hand over, the other to secretly keep with you.

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John C
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember 3 students suddenly not being there in our pharmacy school class one day. They had worked out a nifty way of cheating on their A&P lab practical where the whole class rotated through stations - they wrote down the answer on the black lab bench surface with pencil (almost invisible except from a certain angle). Problem was the last one forgot to erase some of the answers off the bench. Not sure how the professor sorted it out but BOOM - they were gone. The kicker is this was grad school! Why roll the dice when the stakes are so high?!?

Magpie
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@ glorytherainwing What percentage of your doctors' exams are you happy for them to cheat on ?

Rose the Cook
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or the lawyer representing you on a charge you are innocent of, the electrician who wired your home or the mechanic who fixed your brakes. The list goes on.

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Yehudit Hannah Cohn
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Each semester, I had 4-7 sections of a Humanities Studies course, which included critical thinking skills. Final was take-home: a week to work on multiple choice and essays. Study groups allowed--I couldn't stop it, had planned for it. I wrote four different versions, changing question/answer order, rewording, taking from different parts of the text--all designed to build on the material and skills. I collated the versions and numbered the tests; sections got a mix and I actually knew who had which test. None was easy--students had to work for answers. The groups had it harder because they'd discuss but couldn't agree . . . because they found they didn't all have the same test.  Pay-off: I collected them, asked if they noticed anything, and saw the looks of those who had simply copied friends' tests. I said, "if you have been in my class all this time, and still think that I am dumb enough to give the same take-home to 300-400 people, you deserve your "F".

Elaine Dodge
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only those who have cheated or plan to cheat complain about entrapment. If you're honest, it's never a problem. As the saying goes, "You can't con an honest man."

Tim Douglass
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of commenters seem to have missed that the students had signed an "academic honor pledge", which is common in some universities. It is simply a legally binding contract that says they will not cheat and usually sets out that if they do cheat they will be expelled. That's the reason that they are allowed to leave the room during the test, they've contractually agreed that they won't cheat. This is a bit like not making your car payment and then having your car repossessed. If you sign a contract you had better be willing to stick to it - that's what contracts are about. Count this as an important educational experience.

Victoria Swift
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Was the professor allowed to, effectively, publicly shame students for cheating". Yes. The answer is yes. They all should be called out for being scumbags. It's a good lesson. I hope in their embarrassment they will straighten up and be better students. Especially if it's engineering. That's not something you can fake your way through.

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Be honest, you want them shamed not for their benefit, but for yours. That's just awful. Wanting to hurt other people is not good.

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Sinkvenice
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The ethics surrounding shaming the cheaters?? How about this? Just don't cheat. This happened in America right? The only place where no matter what someone does, they seem to always be treated as a victim. They were caught and then called out for cheating? Diddums ^rolls eyes^

Marnie
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For once, I don't think cheating is worse in the US than in all other countries. It is rampant in India, for example. The parents often help.

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WhoAsked
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem are the exams... The fact that you can look for the answers online means that it shouldn't be handed to students. Make questions that spark up your creativity, intelligence, application level, and what-not. What's the point of asking questions in an exam/quiz that can be answered just by searching in the web? In the real world, when you're working at a job, you can search in Google anything, so all of what they are testing you on those exams does literally nothing. Professors nowadays are so lazy to make their own problems for their own exams, smh.

Jo Choto
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cheating is a problem, but so are exams. There are very few real world situations where you need to be able to churn out vast quantities of knowledge from memory without being able to look stuff up or ask someone else for an opinion. Finding answers and information is a more important skill than rote memorization. We need to change the way we learn, teach and test.

Demi Zwaan
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why are they allowed to take their phones with them to the toilet? Why are they even allowed to leave the room? We could only leave in an emergency and someone went with us to check we didn’t talk to someone or had hidden sheets with answers. Schools don’t care about cheaters now?

Peko
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, the toilet is often in a separate room, and it's sort of unreasonable to expect people not to need to go to the bathroom for 4+ hours.

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alwaysMispelled
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm in nursing school and we can't leave the room during a test. You'd have to turn in the test, however far you got, and that's be your score. We're not allowed to have drinks near us AND the teachers hand out alternating exams so two people sitting next to each never have the same format exam.

Jim Ellington
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cheaters lowered my GPA in college. They are pieces of s**t and I hope they enjoy me living off their tax dollars.

Demonic Darkness
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's not how GPA works.... They might have gotten a higher rank (and GPA) than you, but they didn't lower yours. If you did badly that is by your own failure. They could have 'stolen' your rank, but not your GPA.

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Evripidou Maria
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

just wanna say that in my school we weren't allowed to go t the toilette during exams. Also phones should be handed in to the teacher

Niffler_13
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was in college we weren't allowed to leave during an exam, unless we had turned in the exam. The only exception was a professor who gave us a take home final.

Carol Emory
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had a teacher one time that required everyone to wear short sleeved shirts for exams and that, when using a graphing calculator, we had to pull them out of our bags, raise them over our head, take the cover off and put it in our bags, zipping them up, then we had to press a series of buttons that cleared the memory so we couldn't cheat by storing formulas. I was so disappointed later when my MIL (a math teacher) told me that the parents had petitioned and the school agreed to require multiplication table being taped to every desk for kids to reference.

Beans
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't agree on the formulas being cleared, maybe depending on the test, but I agree with the comment from the professor above who lets his students use an excel sheet of the formulas. Having done math stats, you go into exams with a formula book, you're not required to memorize every single formula because its way too much to expect from people, and memories are fallible. No job requires you to do that, so to do it in the exam is kinda silly. It's not like the formula book will automatically give you the correct answers-- all it is is a tool. People that don't understand the math will fail anyway, even with the book. As for the multiplication thing, that's not so bad? Every math exam I have taken comes with a calculator now so.... is having the times table there that different when you can just as easily key it in? I guess its weird if it's like elementary math though and they do that though.

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Natalie Hidalgo
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I heard of one math teacher who gave the problem and the answer and the students had to show how they arrived at the correct answer. I thought that was great. You can't cheat as easily.

Bill
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do practical exams. Highlights what they really know and if is a second chance to pass class

Terry Rex
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the professor had the right idea 💡. I applaud him for his ingenuity.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Back before programmable calculators, some students would write math equations in pencil on the back of their TI calculators. Dark plastic hid the cheating. That is until everyone had to pass their calculator to the next person and he handed a wet washcloth down each row to clean them off before the test.

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Paula Rocha
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like the same thing is happening on an online exam for my government class. The professor said no looking in your book and no using google or your phone to find answers. That he would direct us to the dean of students if we cheat. He threw in a question "who is the prime minister of Russia" in a US Government course..... something we have never talked about.

Michael Hobson
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are engineering students. One day they will have access to sensitive intellectual property. Maybe their own. Will they be willing to post that data on Chegg as well? Probably so.

Tina Stalcup
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@James grimes Well, at least I can feel reassured you're going to spend your life working a dead end job flipping burgers. I take it your attitude is the same that you had through grade school which means you didn't apply yourself there either. That's a shame. I think if you and those around you took more time to apply to your studies you wouldn't have such a negative and vulgar representation of education. Not to worry, you can still choose to educate yourself. It doesn't mean go and get a master's degree. If you find a field you have interest in you should try to go into it! There's no shame in a hard working job, but have one which will give you a future livable on. Don't waste time trying to act "big and bad" it's transparent and makes you look less credible. You're far better than that.

Ross Keim
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe be less concerned about cheating and more concerned that your forcing people to memorize stuff they can just search in a phone for, we don’t need to memorize all this junk anymore, technology has advanced maybe our way of teaching and learning should too

Gwen Davis-Feldman
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Public shaming should be a part of living within a collective that depends on everyone doing the right thing. In elementary school kids who misbehaved stood in the corner/time out - for all the class to see - public shaming? Police blotters in local papers are rife with arrests and such of those who break the law. If you gave the adults involved the choice of public shaming or the hefty fine associated with the infractions -it'd be interesting to see the choices. I taught high school honors English for many years but it wasn't until I, in retirement, long-termed- subbed at a highly competitive high school in an ivy-leave college town that I came face-to-face with pervasive cheating. I ferreted out the cheaters with one quiz. Noting hi-tech but I rearranged mult. ch. questions so every other student had a different arrangement. It became clear who had the straying eyes. Their grades were shameful.

Allison Davis
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a far worse story. It’s the story of absolute freedom. As a law student I took an evening law school course called FIT. Intro to federal taxation. I heard from graduating 3Ls that the professor did not give a c**p and handed out a cheat sheet outline to his course. “Just follow the outline and take his test (he only gives one at the end of term so it’s 100% of the grade).” Easy peasy. So like most of the class, we somewhat paid attention, read thru the outline and showed up for the exam. Guess what? It was Multiple Choice. D. Was “All of the Above”. E. Was “None of the Above . Every so often, there was an F. (Who does that!) that would give a combination of letters. The bile in my throat nearly choked me when I realized that I severely deluded myself. The test was a labyrinth of Hell. The sweet freedom of a professor made outline nearly murdered me bc I needed to know how to quickly APPLY it! By the kindness of the bell curve I eeked out a C+. Ugh, just do the work people.

Kusotare
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I generated a list of about 500 subject matter questions and told the class that every single one of the questions on the final would come from that list. The final was 100 questions. The whole of the semester's work was summed up in those 500 questions. The class thought they had it easy, but what they didn't realize is that, in preparing and studying to answer all 500 questions, they learned the entire syllabus.

Marnie
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it should be a crime to cheat. Because it is so incredibly harmful. Do you want engineers in the world that didn't actually learn what they should have learned? Do you want your kids' grades to go down the bell curve, possibly missing out on scholarships and other opportunites, even jobs because other kid's cheating? Do you want an unethical person working for your company? I despise cheaters. Despise them. I don't know how they live with themselves. I have WORKED with cheaters, and they have caused me to work extra hours months on end, caused a lot stress, software defects that could affect someone's life, and caused us a lot of wasted time. Despise them. Shame on them.

WhoAsked
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bro, you can't really cheat on a job. That's why they look at the employee's performance occasionally to avoid any of this happening. Plus it depends on what the student wants to work on in the future. I studied Computer Science just to have a degree that says that I know about computers. What do I do right now? I work as a freelancer programming applications (mostly mobile applications, such as android and iOS) and making horrible code be more efficient. What has the physics courses in college worked for me? Absolutely nothing. There are sometimes courses that don't impact you in any way and have no purpose, but that's all depending on your future job... What are you? Five-years-old or unemployed?

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Deea Iosif
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Something like that, but at large scale, happened In Romania during the national language exam! The administrators of https://dexonline.ro - an online Romanian dictionary - noticed that the search of 3 or 4 words has raised dramatically after the exam has started and... they changed that words definitions! The results were hilarious, but after that the site was heavily criticized for spreading false information.

Marcellus the Third
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've had the job of checking known places during first minutes of exams. Was disappointed that the engineering student hiding his notes in the toilet cistern was unable to engineer a waterproof plastic cover! I kindly(?) kept the alcoholic porter's stash of lemonade-laced-with-cheap-spirits in place. So yea, the "hand in your phones" strategy is nonsense, they'll stash others elsewhere; I've found a laptop shared between a bunch of students and other stuff.

Alethia Nyx
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it just me that finds it really weird that they were allowed to go to the toilet during an exam in the first place? Also my uni all phones were required to be switched off and at the top of your desk in plain view, so if you touched it it was obvious.

SAF saf
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If seen it happen, it's pretty obvious when you're going to the bathroom multiple times only on days you have an exam.

Eric Allen
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why not have a no phone policy of placing their phones in a labeled cubby/holder and once they turn in their exam, then give them back their phone? This way if they have to use the bathroom they aren't taking their phones with them; unless they finished the exam.

Aunt Messy
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's easier to buy two packs of cards and put a playing card on the item that's being stored and giving the owner the identical card.

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Rose the Cook
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why were phones allowed in the exam room? This is why so many degrees are not worth the paper they are written on these days.

Sarah Kate Lamming
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I knew a lecturer who would put some a fake info on the Wikipedia page relating to essay questions so that if someone used that fake he knew they were using poor sources. I was taught that people who cheat only cheat themselves as they don't end up with the knowledge or the skills they should have if they do the work thus making it harder for themselves later. Think stopping cheating is nearly impossible as some people think it's being clever but if harsh penalties are dished out, it becomes less attractive. I Know someone who thrown out of uni in his third year for cheating in his finals; he struggled to get a job as no one wants dishonest employees!

Cheryl Wilcox
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wikipedia has been shown to be a reliable source. Changing Wikipedia to be wrong is wrong. (The journal Nature says the open-access encyclopedia is about as accurate as the old standby. Wikipedia is about as good a source of accurate information as Britannica, the venerable standard-bearer of facts about the world around us, according to a study published in the journal Nature.Dec 16, 2005)

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Dawn K
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why didn't he just refuse to let the students go to the bathroom until they were finished with the test?

Id row
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My school allowed an open book final, which I thought was ridiculous. It's basically endorsed cheating. I was the only one to not show up with a stack of books. I paid a lot of money to go to that college, I was damned well going to learn from it. Cheating only cheats your future. Your lack of knowledge will eventually surface when you land a job.

Brunnhilde Smith
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Open-book and closed-book exams test different things. A closed-book exam tests recall, and one can do fairly well by putting information in short-term memory and regurgitating it. That’s how I passed the Bar Exam, and I can’t remember half the stuff I learned for the exam. An open-book exam tests organization and information-finding skills. Without well-organized notes and a solid familiarity with the books, there’s no way a person should be able to do well on an open-book exam.

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Kirsten Kerkhof
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I solve this issue by letting them do tests together. Granted, my tests mostly involve insight into processes, and they'll need to have learnt how to solve those processes in the first place, but it really works. I do have one final exam that they have to do strictly individually (because it's nation-wide and I don't make the rules there), but by then they've either scored well on their previous tests & they're more than ready for it, or they'll fail no matter what. I don't really believe in individual tests. My students are in college, when they enter the work place they'll be expected to ask colleagues when they can't do stuff. Well, in my tests they can ask colleagues, they can use the internet, they can go and ask other teachers for all I care. Just get the right info before the deadline.

James grimes
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Dude your a f****n snitch, f**k you and your prof ya lil teachers pet lookin a*s mafucka, so what theyre cheating ? The f***s it concern you ? You know how much Tuition costs ? And college is pointless anyway, there just tryna pass, I hope someone shits in your cereal and slashes your tires

Full Name
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah son. Word up. Snitches get stiches, yo! Respresnt yo click, playa! (Also, it's you're, not your. Stay in school)

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zeldapajamas
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While I applaud the professor, maybe an idea is to make the exams so people don't feel the need to cheat. Not everyone learns in the same way.

Aunt Messy
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't cope with the course work, then you're taking the wrong course. ...///... when you're in university you sink or swim and that is YOUR choice.

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glorytherainwing
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Magpie
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good work. But it is not revenge, it is just a correction. These brats need to learn that the rules Do apply to them.

John C
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To all those claiming "entrapment" or why didn't the teacher just disallow phones/bathroom breaks - I would argue that the teacher is TEACHING by doing this. He's doing the cheaters a favor by allowing them to learn this lesson while the stakes are relatively low. Well done.

deanna woods
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Comedy class professor just took up all of our phones before the exam began, problem solved. If I was a professor I would also take up smart watches as well. Just a thought.

Parmeisan
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pretty easy to bring two phones, though. One as a decoy to hand over, the other to secretly keep with you.

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John C
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember 3 students suddenly not being there in our pharmacy school class one day. They had worked out a nifty way of cheating on their A&P lab practical where the whole class rotated through stations - they wrote down the answer on the black lab bench surface with pencil (almost invisible except from a certain angle). Problem was the last one forgot to erase some of the answers off the bench. Not sure how the professor sorted it out but BOOM - they were gone. The kicker is this was grad school! Why roll the dice when the stakes are so high?!?

Magpie
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@ glorytherainwing What percentage of your doctors' exams are you happy for them to cheat on ?

Rose the Cook
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or the lawyer representing you on a charge you are innocent of, the electrician who wired your home or the mechanic who fixed your brakes. The list goes on.

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Yehudit Hannah Cohn
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Each semester, I had 4-7 sections of a Humanities Studies course, which included critical thinking skills. Final was take-home: a week to work on multiple choice and essays. Study groups allowed--I couldn't stop it, had planned for it. I wrote four different versions, changing question/answer order, rewording, taking from different parts of the text--all designed to build on the material and skills. I collated the versions and numbered the tests; sections got a mix and I actually knew who had which test. None was easy--students had to work for answers. The groups had it harder because they'd discuss but couldn't agree . . . because they found they didn't all have the same test.  Pay-off: I collected them, asked if they noticed anything, and saw the looks of those who had simply copied friends' tests. I said, "if you have been in my class all this time, and still think that I am dumb enough to give the same take-home to 300-400 people, you deserve your "F".

Elaine Dodge
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only those who have cheated or plan to cheat complain about entrapment. If you're honest, it's never a problem. As the saying goes, "You can't con an honest man."

Tim Douglass
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of commenters seem to have missed that the students had signed an "academic honor pledge", which is common in some universities. It is simply a legally binding contract that says they will not cheat and usually sets out that if they do cheat they will be expelled. That's the reason that they are allowed to leave the room during the test, they've contractually agreed that they won't cheat. This is a bit like not making your car payment and then having your car repossessed. If you sign a contract you had better be willing to stick to it - that's what contracts are about. Count this as an important educational experience.

Victoria Swift
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Was the professor allowed to, effectively, publicly shame students for cheating". Yes. The answer is yes. They all should be called out for being scumbags. It's a good lesson. I hope in their embarrassment they will straighten up and be better students. Especially if it's engineering. That's not something you can fake your way through.

Full Name
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4 years ago

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Be honest, you want them shamed not for their benefit, but for yours. That's just awful. Wanting to hurt other people is not good.

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Sinkvenice
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The ethics surrounding shaming the cheaters?? How about this? Just don't cheat. This happened in America right? The only place where no matter what someone does, they seem to always be treated as a victim. They were caught and then called out for cheating? Diddums ^rolls eyes^

Marnie
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For once, I don't think cheating is worse in the US than in all other countries. It is rampant in India, for example. The parents often help.

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WhoAsked
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem are the exams... The fact that you can look for the answers online means that it shouldn't be handed to students. Make questions that spark up your creativity, intelligence, application level, and what-not. What's the point of asking questions in an exam/quiz that can be answered just by searching in the web? In the real world, when you're working at a job, you can search in Google anything, so all of what they are testing you on those exams does literally nothing. Professors nowadays are so lazy to make their own problems for their own exams, smh.

Jo Choto
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cheating is a problem, but so are exams. There are very few real world situations where you need to be able to churn out vast quantities of knowledge from memory without being able to look stuff up or ask someone else for an opinion. Finding answers and information is a more important skill than rote memorization. We need to change the way we learn, teach and test.

Demi Zwaan
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why are they allowed to take their phones with them to the toilet? Why are they even allowed to leave the room? We could only leave in an emergency and someone went with us to check we didn’t talk to someone or had hidden sheets with answers. Schools don’t care about cheaters now?

Peko
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, the toilet is often in a separate room, and it's sort of unreasonable to expect people not to need to go to the bathroom for 4+ hours.

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alwaysMispelled
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm in nursing school and we can't leave the room during a test. You'd have to turn in the test, however far you got, and that's be your score. We're not allowed to have drinks near us AND the teachers hand out alternating exams so two people sitting next to each never have the same format exam.

Jim Ellington
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cheaters lowered my GPA in college. They are pieces of s**t and I hope they enjoy me living off their tax dollars.

Demonic Darkness
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's not how GPA works.... They might have gotten a higher rank (and GPA) than you, but they didn't lower yours. If you did badly that is by your own failure. They could have 'stolen' your rank, but not your GPA.

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Evripidou Maria
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

just wanna say that in my school we weren't allowed to go t the toilette during exams. Also phones should be handed in to the teacher

Niffler_13
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was in college we weren't allowed to leave during an exam, unless we had turned in the exam. The only exception was a professor who gave us a take home final.

Carol Emory
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had a teacher one time that required everyone to wear short sleeved shirts for exams and that, when using a graphing calculator, we had to pull them out of our bags, raise them over our head, take the cover off and put it in our bags, zipping them up, then we had to press a series of buttons that cleared the memory so we couldn't cheat by storing formulas. I was so disappointed later when my MIL (a math teacher) told me that the parents had petitioned and the school agreed to require multiplication table being taped to every desk for kids to reference.

Beans
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't agree on the formulas being cleared, maybe depending on the test, but I agree with the comment from the professor above who lets his students use an excel sheet of the formulas. Having done math stats, you go into exams with a formula book, you're not required to memorize every single formula because its way too much to expect from people, and memories are fallible. No job requires you to do that, so to do it in the exam is kinda silly. It's not like the formula book will automatically give you the correct answers-- all it is is a tool. People that don't understand the math will fail anyway, even with the book. As for the multiplication thing, that's not so bad? Every math exam I have taken comes with a calculator now so.... is having the times table there that different when you can just as easily key it in? I guess its weird if it's like elementary math though and they do that though.

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Natalie Hidalgo
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I heard of one math teacher who gave the problem and the answer and the students had to show how they arrived at the correct answer. I thought that was great. You can't cheat as easily.

Bill
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do practical exams. Highlights what they really know and if is a second chance to pass class

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the professor had the right idea 💡. I applaud him for his ingenuity.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Back before programmable calculators, some students would write math equations in pencil on the back of their TI calculators. Dark plastic hid the cheating. That is until everyone had to pass their calculator to the next person and he handed a wet washcloth down each row to clean them off before the test.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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Paula Rocha
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like the same thing is happening on an online exam for my government class. The professor said no looking in your book and no using google or your phone to find answers. That he would direct us to the dean of students if we cheat. He threw in a question "who is the prime minister of Russia" in a US Government course..... something we have never talked about.

Michael Hobson
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are engineering students. One day they will have access to sensitive intellectual property. Maybe their own. Will they be willing to post that data on Chegg as well? Probably so.

Tina Stalcup
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@James grimes Well, at least I can feel reassured you're going to spend your life working a dead end job flipping burgers. I take it your attitude is the same that you had through grade school which means you didn't apply yourself there either. That's a shame. I think if you and those around you took more time to apply to your studies you wouldn't have such a negative and vulgar representation of education. Not to worry, you can still choose to educate yourself. It doesn't mean go and get a master's degree. If you find a field you have interest in you should try to go into it! There's no shame in a hard working job, but have one which will give you a future livable on. Don't waste time trying to act "big and bad" it's transparent and makes you look less credible. You're far better than that.

Ross Keim
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe be less concerned about cheating and more concerned that your forcing people to memorize stuff they can just search in a phone for, we don’t need to memorize all this junk anymore, technology has advanced maybe our way of teaching and learning should too

Gwen Davis-Feldman
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Public shaming should be a part of living within a collective that depends on everyone doing the right thing. In elementary school kids who misbehaved stood in the corner/time out - for all the class to see - public shaming? Police blotters in local papers are rife with arrests and such of those who break the law. If you gave the adults involved the choice of public shaming or the hefty fine associated with the infractions -it'd be interesting to see the choices. I taught high school honors English for many years but it wasn't until I, in retirement, long-termed- subbed at a highly competitive high school in an ivy-leave college town that I came face-to-face with pervasive cheating. I ferreted out the cheaters with one quiz. Noting hi-tech but I rearranged mult. ch. questions so every other student had a different arrangement. It became clear who had the straying eyes. Their grades were shameful.

Allison Davis
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a far worse story. It’s the story of absolute freedom. As a law student I took an evening law school course called FIT. Intro to federal taxation. I heard from graduating 3Ls that the professor did not give a c**p and handed out a cheat sheet outline to his course. “Just follow the outline and take his test (he only gives one at the end of term so it’s 100% of the grade).” Easy peasy. So like most of the class, we somewhat paid attention, read thru the outline and showed up for the exam. Guess what? It was Multiple Choice. D. Was “All of the Above”. E. Was “None of the Above . Every so often, there was an F. (Who does that!) that would give a combination of letters. The bile in my throat nearly choked me when I realized that I severely deluded myself. The test was a labyrinth of Hell. The sweet freedom of a professor made outline nearly murdered me bc I needed to know how to quickly APPLY it! By the kindness of the bell curve I eeked out a C+. Ugh, just do the work people.

Kusotare
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I generated a list of about 500 subject matter questions and told the class that every single one of the questions on the final would come from that list. The final was 100 questions. The whole of the semester's work was summed up in those 500 questions. The class thought they had it easy, but what they didn't realize is that, in preparing and studying to answer all 500 questions, they learned the entire syllabus.

Marnie
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it should be a crime to cheat. Because it is so incredibly harmful. Do you want engineers in the world that didn't actually learn what they should have learned? Do you want your kids' grades to go down the bell curve, possibly missing out on scholarships and other opportunites, even jobs because other kid's cheating? Do you want an unethical person working for your company? I despise cheaters. Despise them. I don't know how they live with themselves. I have WORKED with cheaters, and they have caused me to work extra hours months on end, caused a lot stress, software defects that could affect someone's life, and caused us a lot of wasted time. Despise them. Shame on them.

WhoAsked
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bro, you can't really cheat on a job. That's why they look at the employee's performance occasionally to avoid any of this happening. Plus it depends on what the student wants to work on in the future. I studied Computer Science just to have a degree that says that I know about computers. What do I do right now? I work as a freelancer programming applications (mostly mobile applications, such as android and iOS) and making horrible code be more efficient. What has the physics courses in college worked for me? Absolutely nothing. There are sometimes courses that don't impact you in any way and have no purpose, but that's all depending on your future job... What are you? Five-years-old or unemployed?

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Deea Iosif
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Something like that, but at large scale, happened In Romania during the national language exam! The administrators of https://dexonline.ro - an online Romanian dictionary - noticed that the search of 3 or 4 words has raised dramatically after the exam has started and... they changed that words definitions! The results were hilarious, but after that the site was heavily criticized for spreading false information.

Marcellus the Third
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've had the job of checking known places during first minutes of exams. Was disappointed that the engineering student hiding his notes in the toilet cistern was unable to engineer a waterproof plastic cover! I kindly(?) kept the alcoholic porter's stash of lemonade-laced-with-cheap-spirits in place. So yea, the "hand in your phones" strategy is nonsense, they'll stash others elsewhere; I've found a laptop shared between a bunch of students and other stuff.

Alethia Nyx
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it just me that finds it really weird that they were allowed to go to the toilet during an exam in the first place? Also my uni all phones were required to be switched off and at the top of your desk in plain view, so if you touched it it was obvious.

SAF saf
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If seen it happen, it's pretty obvious when you're going to the bathroom multiple times only on days you have an exam.

Eric Allen
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why not have a no phone policy of placing their phones in a labeled cubby/holder and once they turn in their exam, then give them back their phone? This way if they have to use the bathroom they aren't taking their phones with them; unless they finished the exam.

Aunt Messy
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's easier to buy two packs of cards and put a playing card on the item that's being stored and giving the owner the identical card.

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Rose the Cook
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why were phones allowed in the exam room? This is why so many degrees are not worth the paper they are written on these days.

Sarah Kate Lamming
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I knew a lecturer who would put some a fake info on the Wikipedia page relating to essay questions so that if someone used that fake he knew they were using poor sources. I was taught that people who cheat only cheat themselves as they don't end up with the knowledge or the skills they should have if they do the work thus making it harder for themselves later. Think stopping cheating is nearly impossible as some people think it's being clever but if harsh penalties are dished out, it becomes less attractive. I Know someone who thrown out of uni in his third year for cheating in his finals; he struggled to get a job as no one wants dishonest employees!

Cheryl Wilcox
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wikipedia has been shown to be a reliable source. Changing Wikipedia to be wrong is wrong. (The journal Nature says the open-access encyclopedia is about as accurate as the old standby. Wikipedia is about as good a source of accurate information as Britannica, the venerable standard-bearer of facts about the world around us, according to a study published in the journal Nature.Dec 16, 2005)

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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Dawn K
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why didn't he just refuse to let the students go to the bathroom until they were finished with the test?

Id row
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My school allowed an open book final, which I thought was ridiculous. It's basically endorsed cheating. I was the only one to not show up with a stack of books. I paid a lot of money to go to that college, I was damned well going to learn from it. Cheating only cheats your future. Your lack of knowledge will eventually surface when you land a job.

Brunnhilde Smith
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Open-book and closed-book exams test different things. A closed-book exam tests recall, and one can do fairly well by putting information in short-term memory and regurgitating it. That’s how I passed the Bar Exam, and I can’t remember half the stuff I learned for the exam. An open-book exam tests organization and information-finding skills. Without well-organized notes and a solid familiarity with the books, there’s no way a person should be able to do well on an open-book exam.

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Kirsten Kerkhof
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I solve this issue by letting them do tests together. Granted, my tests mostly involve insight into processes, and they'll need to have learnt how to solve those processes in the first place, but it really works. I do have one final exam that they have to do strictly individually (because it's nation-wide and I don't make the rules there), but by then they've either scored well on their previous tests & they're more than ready for it, or they'll fail no matter what. I don't really believe in individual tests. My students are in college, when they enter the work place they'll be expected to ask colleagues when they can't do stuff. Well, in my tests they can ask colleagues, they can use the internet, they can go and ask other teachers for all I care. Just get the right info before the deadline.

James grimes
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Dude your a f****n snitch, f**k you and your prof ya lil teachers pet lookin a*s mafucka, so what theyre cheating ? The f***s it concern you ? You know how much Tuition costs ? And college is pointless anyway, there just tryna pass, I hope someone shits in your cereal and slashes your tires

Full Name
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah son. Word up. Snitches get stiches, yo! Respresnt yo click, playa! (Also, it's you're, not your. Stay in school)

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zeldapajamas
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While I applaud the professor, maybe an idea is to make the exams so people don't feel the need to cheat. Not everyone learns in the same way.

Aunt Messy
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't cope with the course work, then you're taking the wrong course. ...///... when you're in university you sink or swim and that is YOUR choice.

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IS THIS MAN SATAN?! OR IS HE JUST LIVING IN 2087

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