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Tumblr Users Explain Survival Bias And How It Affects Our Society
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Tumblr Users Explain Survival Bias And How It Affects Our Society

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Every once in a while, we hear someone say “autism didn’t exist before vaccines” or “so many people are depressed, this rarely happened a couple of hundred years ago”. And while sometimes such phrases might seem to have a point, oftentimes it’s nothing more than a logical fallacies example.

Some Tumblr users gathered for a discussion around the topic, addressing the fact that many people who share the “mental health is a trend” type of wisdom, forget some very crucial details.

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    Tumblr users jumped right into a discussion connecting survival bias with people claiming that many illnesses are “modern”

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    It is similar to the WWII aircraft situation, where statisticians had to analyze data of the damaged planes that returned from the field and determine which parts to improve. They looked at the diagrams and decided that parts showing most damage needed to be improved and protected. That seems like logical reasoning, right? However, a Hungarian mathematician Abraham Wald spotted the error in their thinking, pointing out that the statisticians were looking at the damage to the planes that made it back, not those who were lost to enemy fire. This means that the most damaged areas simply showed that the plane survived when taking hits to those places. What they were missing were the areas that showed minimal or no damage as those were where planes that didn’t return took critical damage. That is one of the best examples of survival (or survivorship) bias.

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    Survivorship bias refers to a phenomenon where one focuses on the people or things that made it past a certain selection process and overlooking those that did not. That often leads to overly optimistic beliefs and irrational thinking because failures are ignored. Tumblr uses to argue that the survivorship bias is to blame for many arguments people nowadays use against modern medicine and social changes.

    Someone then offered a more in-depth explanation of the phenomenon

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    While many people like to point out that such medical conditions as autism didn’t even exist “back in the day”, they fail to see that just because the term didn’t exist, that doesn’t mean that people with neurodiversity didn’t. The term itself was adopted in 1938 by Hans Asperger and medical records show that descriptions of various symptoms were recorded long before autism was named.

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    Giedrė Vaičiulaitytė

    Giedrė Vaičiulaitytė

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    As a writer and image editor for Bored Panda, Giedrė crafts posts on many different topics to push them to their potential. She's also glad that her Bachelor’s degree in English Philology didn’t go to waste (although collecting dust in the attic could also be considered an achievement of aesthetic value!) Giedrė is an avid fan of cats, photography, and mysteries, and a keen observer of the Internet culture which is what she is most excited to write about. Since she's embarked on her journalistic endeavor, Giedrė has over 600 articles under her belt and hopes for twice as much (fingers crossed - half of them are about cats).

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    As a writer and image editor for Bored Panda, Giedrė crafts posts on many different topics to push them to their potential. She's also glad that her Bachelor’s degree in English Philology didn’t go to waste (although collecting dust in the attic could also be considered an achievement of aesthetic value!) Giedrė is an avid fan of cats, photography, and mysteries, and a keen observer of the Internet culture which is what she is most excited to write about. Since she's embarked on her journalistic endeavor, Giedrė has over 600 articles under her belt and hopes for twice as much (fingers crossed - half of them are about cats).

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    Ozacoter
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My great aunt (90 now) had always 'stomach pain' after drinking milk. Back in the day her parents tought that she was being picky and forced her to drink it and once she became an adult she just stopped drinking milk. If she was born in my generation they would have probably just doagnosed her with some lactose intolerance...

    Aunt Messy
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A LOT of people have lactose intolerance - one study estimated that up to 40% of Americans have it. It's a matter of degree, though. Some people can tolerate some dairy, others (holds up hand) get queasy with a lot less.

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    Ozacoter
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is always funny when people say things like 'we didnt had cancer before'. My granpa died of stomach cancer in the early 70s. I just know because my father (now a doctor) told me. Most people back then just said 'He got sick and died'. We did have all this diseases, they were just unknown to the public

    Ozacoter
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Altough I do believe that allergies migh increase because of lack of exposure to dirt during childhood, pollution and chemicals. The same with depression and anxiety; they exisred before but I wouldnt be surprised if they became more normal because of the extreme fast rithm of life nowadays.

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    Shannon Richards
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mildly autistic folks were considered eccentric. Severely autistic folks were locked up. I do genealogy and it's so sad when I find a family member in the census record of an institution.

    Jonathon Smith
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is relatively recently that well-functioning autistic people have been recognised as having a condition at all. When I grew up in the 80s you basically had to be non-verbal to get an autism diagnosis.

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    Ozacoter
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My great aunt (90 now) had always 'stomach pain' after drinking milk. Back in the day her parents tought that she was being picky and forced her to drink it and once she became an adult she just stopped drinking milk. If she was born in my generation they would have probably just doagnosed her with some lactose intolerance...

    Aunt Messy
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A LOT of people have lactose intolerance - one study estimated that up to 40% of Americans have it. It's a matter of degree, though. Some people can tolerate some dairy, others (holds up hand) get queasy with a lot less.

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    Ozacoter
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is always funny when people say things like 'we didnt had cancer before'. My granpa died of stomach cancer in the early 70s. I just know because my father (now a doctor) told me. Most people back then just said 'He got sick and died'. We did have all this diseases, they were just unknown to the public

    Ozacoter
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Altough I do believe that allergies migh increase because of lack of exposure to dirt during childhood, pollution and chemicals. The same with depression and anxiety; they exisred before but I wouldnt be surprised if they became more normal because of the extreme fast rithm of life nowadays.

    Load More Replies...
    Shannon Richards
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mildly autistic folks were considered eccentric. Severely autistic folks were locked up. I do genealogy and it's so sad when I find a family member in the census record of an institution.

    Jonathon Smith
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is relatively recently that well-functioning autistic people have been recognised as having a condition at all. When I grew up in the 80s you basically had to be non-verbal to get an autism diagnosis.

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