“You Are In The Wrong Profession”: 17 Y.O. Gets Sent Home For Her Turtleneck Plus Dress Combo, Causes Backlash
School and education are some of the more important cornerstones of society—they not only teach us theoretical subjects, but also give us the skills to navigate the world later on. Or at least, they should. Of course, no student is the same, we all have different strengths and goals, and ultimately, our aspirations determine what we take from our education. However, it’s likely we all agree that school shouldn’t be a place where a child’s confidence is stripped from them.
Perhaps one of the reason why society holds schools in such high regard (and also up to a certain standard) is because, more often than not, they help shape the person. Yet there are instances when school becomes the source of insecurity for the youth. That’s exactly the case with a 17-year-old high school senior who was sent home due to inappropriate attire.
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A 17-year-old high-schooler was sent home after a teacher deemed her clothes distracting
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A student in Kamloops, British Columbia, was pulled from school and sent home because her teacher decided her clothes were inappropriate and might be distracting. But it wasn’t that there was anything wrong with the outfit itself—17-year-old Karis wore a white turtleneck underneath a black knee-length dress. Generally speaking, there wasn’t any excessive show of skin or anything like that, but the teen still had to go home in tears.
Her father took it to the internet to protest this decision with a video that went viral
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“This is unacceptable. We shouldn’t treat our females like this. We shouldn’t be telling them they can’t dress a certain way. This is absurd,” said Christopher Wilson, the girl’s father. “After a short period of time, she was centered out by the teacher and was told the outfit she was wearing made or could make her or the teacher’s assistant, who was a male, feel uncomfortable.”
Wilson raised the question of whether people bothered by such attire should even be teachers
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“If you’re a teacher and you’re distracted by clothing your students are wearing, then you are in the wrong profession,” said Wilson. “Maybe you should try something new.” The girl’s outfit allegedly reminded them of lingerie, mostly due to the lace that was on the dress, but the complaint about its inappropriateness raised a valid question about educators being uncomfortable in the presence of teens.
The school is now facing backlash from the community, with students organizing walkout protest
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The school said it has rules against clothing that might hinder teaching and learning, but as Alex Dolson from Kamloops Sexual Assault Center pointed out, the girl wore a turtleneck under the dress, so it shouldn’t have been against any of the rules. The students of the school even staged a walkout to show support for Karis, protesting against the unfair punishment, holding signs saying “I am not my dress” and “My education is more important than what I wear.”
Some of the students protested by dressing in similar fashion
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School District No. 73 stated it’s taking the matter seriously and is currently reviewing the incident. Wilson admitted the vice-principal and principal have handled the situation well, and the family even heard from the school district superintendent. According to the father, once asked about it, Karis wanted “to make sure this kind of thing doesn’t happen to the students that come after her.” Wilson added that if this situation would change something for at least one person, it would be worth it.
The outrage extended to different social media platforms, critizing the clothing censure
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The incident sparked a discussion about what is appropriate behavior for both students and teachers. The punishment for this seemingly innocent outfit was met with outrage on social media, with people questioning why female outfits are still being judged so harshly in this day and age.
And here’s the video of Christopher Wilson addressing the issue
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The incident earned dual response from people online
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I'm really struggling to see what is so inappropriate and the closest I can come up with is that a "slip" is underwear - at least they were when I was growing up (a long time ago); they were worn under jersey material dresses to prevent excess clinging to curves (creating VPL among other problems). The lace on the bodice part is a clue. But fashions have changed, and as long as no part of the dress below the waist (since above the waist is covered by her sweater) is see-through, there is nothing here that is offensive or inappropriate.
Ummm.... the lace is seen on many regular clothes, too. I have that lace neckline on a spagetti-strap *dress* in my close right now. It's not black. But that's the only difference.
Load More Replies...There's nothing wrong with a school having a dress code (although it wasn't stated in the article if they did or not- maybe it was just the teacher's opinion), but the way the teacher ridiculed the teenager in front of the class was not okay at all.
In what way would this violate a dress code? She's fully cover from neck to knees. The article says her clothes were cited for "being distracting" not for "violating dress code". The teacher was out of line and if he found that outfit "distracting" he has a problem and maybe shouldn't be around minors.
Load More Replies...Bro just focus on the lesson and stop focusing on the god damn child. And don't send them home for it, that's absolute bull crap Insane, they gotta get fired. Oh yeah and one more thing, one of the tweets were right. It isn't a 17 yr old girls JOB to make the teacher feel comfortable, they don't give a living crap.
The problem here is not that a girl is dressing inappropriately - it is that a teacher is sexualising school kids and blaming the kids for it. Instead of demonising girls, how about we teach boys not to objectify them? Just a thought.
As a male teacher in a K-12 school, I find this insane that it even happened! No one who loves education and who loves sharing that education with others should EVER be going out of their way like this to embarrass a student and prevent her from taking part in the class. Disgusting. The school clearly doesn't have a uniform and no dress code on earth who deny that sort of modest outfit. Like they mentioned in the article, it is covering shoulders to knees and last time I checked, we are not living in Puritan England. It is crazy to me, both as a person and educator, that we still run into these issues! At a school that I worked at previously (with a uniform), a teacher made all the students (boys and girls) kneel on the floor and measured their skirts and shorts to make sure that they were no more than 4 inches from the ground! It was bizarre to say the least, more like an abuse of power. Love your material, love your students (in an appropriate way), be an EDUCATOR.
Oh hellll no. First off, there's nothing even "remotely" inappropriate about that outfit. And even if it is was revealing, that still wouldn't be an excuse for a teacher to be creeping on a student and blaming her outfit for his twistedness. No matter what you wear, you are never "asking for it."
So let me get this straight: • If a girl shows any skin, it's inappropriate. • If a girl covers up, it's inappropriate. • If a girl wears something comfortable, it's inappropriate. • If a girl, it's inappropriate?? I'm starting to think conservatives need to just stop trying to pretend and come out and admit that what they really mean is "if you're not a wealthy white man, you should be property". Disgusting. It's no wonder this country is going down the toilet so quickly. So much religious conservatism corrupting the political landscape with its sheer, unabashed idiocy.
Teacher doesn’t need to be around teenagers. Maybe that attitude was acceptable 20 years ago but not anymore. Now it just makes you look like a perv, and rightfully so.
Why is anybody downvoting this person? They’re entirely right!
Load More Replies...Apparently now instead of just your knees and shoulder (already completely ridiculous) it's also any skin at all. IS THAT A HAND I SEE OH MY GAWD GIRL YOU CAN'T BE SHOWING THAT sooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid
this is stupid... turtlenecks are perfectly fine, not exposing anything, not revealing in any way, therefore idk how there is a problem. anyways, the age old excuse that itll 'distract boys' isnt the girls problem. she shouldnt be sent home, the boy should, and he should stay there till he learn self control. and if teachers deem shoulders or any other part of a girl/woman 'distracting' he shouldnt be any where near women.
Do we also send home male students with muscular, athletic bodies who wear tight t-shirts because they might distract a female teacher? No. No, we don’t. Yet we subject female students to blame and humiliation because an adult male cannot be expected to control his inappropriate sexual urges towards an underage student. What the actual f**k?
Well sure, she's covered all the way up to her neck, but did did leave her knees exposed, how can any teacher withstand that? Best to wear a burka so teachers don't need to be responsible for their own sexualization of teenagers.
I guess it is the same teachers that wouldn't teach girls with burka, nicab or headscarf.
Load More Replies...My daughter in middle school wore leggings (they were allowed),a turtleneck with a dress over the top. She got in trouble for the outfit because the dress was over the leggings. It was winter. She either had to remove the leggings or get into trouble. This didn't set well with me because leggings were ok to wear but not under a dress????? I told them she would not be changing or getting into trouble and if they pushed it I too would push it. But in the summer guys were wearing their pants pulled down or T-shirts they cut the whole side out but that was ok!
Wouldn't schools have encouraged her to wear something under her dress? What the hell is going on in your daughter's school district?
Load More Replies...This is so true, I had a male teacher in 5th grade that would dress code my friend everyday for to short shorts. It's not our fault that we are girls.
Back when i was in school, the dress code regarding shorts was that they had to be longer on you than where your fingertips were when standing straight. For some reason, women's shorts mostly seem cut shorter than that. I think it's a ridiculous standard. 15 years prior to my term in high school, athletic shorts for both men and women were disgustingly short, and students there wore them. I failed to see what the problem was.
Load More Replies...So, here is something I find odd. I was 14 in 1974. I had a lovely outfit my mother made me. It was "palazzo pants" (google that one) with a halter top that tied around the next and my waist. My back was completely bare - but it was a back. Did I get sent home? No. Did anyone comment on it? With the exception of my french teacher who thought it was beautiful, no. And when I was in high school, we wore tank tops that had spaghetti straps ALL THE TIME. Now if you even think about wearing those, you get sent home. I would have thought we would progress, not go backward.
My older sis wore a tube top to school in junior high, and she was, er, well-endowed for her age. Nobody blinked. It covered what was considered "black box" material (referring to th eblack box put over such body parts in photos, etc.).
Load More Replies...If the boys are getting distracted, why do the girls get sent home? It's the boys fault for being distracted...
Also so what if he is distracted? It’s Gen Z. They have phones. They’re already distracted. And if they wanted to look at girl’s legs or butt or boobs, they can just open Instagram and see millions of young women BEGGING for attention at any moment. They don’t need to see that student in a skirt to be distracted.
Load More Replies...I agree about the bit about (rape) victim blaming. If wearing clothes X distracts, then if she keeps wearing X and gets assaulted it is her fault??? No, the one who can't control himself if a female body is visible is too blame. I'd say turn it around. Dress as sexy as possible and then teach people to keep their urges under controls. (To ask them to stop looking is a bit too much then, if I see something exceptional I keep looking to).
Imagine you are an adult & an educator and your reaction to a child’s clothing is that your coworkers may become sexually distracted or even aroused. Is this not wholly a statement on how you perceive your coworkers? Or is it an issue you have with your own body and the experiences you’ve had when men aren’t held accountable?I don’t see how this response had anything to do with the student.
They say its f*cking distracting them and they make even MORE of a distraction for the Whole school. Like wtf come on guys. They made things 10x worse
as long as they aren't wearing like a swimsuit or something, they're fine. I would not find that outfit at all distracting
A TURTLENECK is now sexual b/c it is under a dress. Newsflash: Went to a Catholic school and in winter we were encouraged to wear turtlenecks under our "jumpers" (for the UK crowd: An ugly plaid dress thing without sleeves). If nuns were okay with a turtleneck under what's essentiall a dress ---- and you can't get more modest in how she covered up under that lace neckline ----- then everyone else needs to chill the f*** out.
Instead of telling girls that they should go home because you're getting distracted, and that they have to learn to not do that; you should go home and learn not to get distracted.
I understand if it was actually something inappropriate for school but being mostly covered doesn’t break rules. Especially a turtle neck.
Yes he must cover his face, it's a distracting one!
Load More Replies...Putting aside the entire aspect of sexuality and personal choice, one incredibly important trait that needs to be developed early on: Getting your work done amidst a sea of potential distractions. That is not an excuse.
Distractions are a part of life. It's actually a good thing for someone to distract you while rehearsing an oral presentation (or something like that) so you'll be prepared for the real thing.
Load More Replies...I'd be more pressed if it were something more scantily clad. Mini skirt + Crop top Short shorts + Sports bra. Mini dress + heels and stocking. However, she has something under a Long dress, barely any skin is showing... Girls in the past were practically mandated to wear dresses, and now that's against a Private law. How damn ironic. Did the school board ever think, if a Teacher is to feel "Uncomfortable" by STARING at a LITTLE GIRL'S attire long enough to FEEL a certain way, they didn't think this feeling would be Hormones? What would make it worse, does the man have a Wife? She must be sick looking at him after this. For real man, if a Teacher Feels like Girls being Females is an Issue, HES THE DAMN ISSUE feeling like he wants fulfill his Urges of being a Twisted person. Fire him, immediately, and Investigate the board.
It does not matter if a girl wears a crop top, or booty shorts, what matters is that perverts like the teaching assistant get kicked out.
Load More Replies...It's interesting because the "no distracting attire" or whatever is definitely a rule at my school, and I had never thought about it the way the father did, that it shouldn't be an ok rule in this modern day and age. (Innocent little me assumed it was for things like... I don't know, those changing sequin shirts; something that the student could be fiddling with rather than paying attention. Not anything that makes (or "might make") a teacher "uncomfortable" without violating any other more specific rule of the dress code!)
WTF? I'm totally OK with schools preventing their students from having a race to see who can dress the most provocatively. Heck, when I was in school, boys could never wear shorts, even in 95 degree weather with no AC. But this is just WIERD. She's modestly dressed!
I don't get it. I'm totally OK with preventing schools from being a race to see who can dress the most provocatively. Yes, if a boy shows up in a wifebeater or a cut-off muscle shirt, he can go home, too. When I went to school, boys couldn't even wear SHORTS and we had no A/C in the schools! But THIS? Seriously? It's MODEST!
I made a pair of flip flops from duct tape and wore them to school on Friday. No one said anything. I wore them again on Monday and the rules had changed. I was told to change shoes or go home.
The whole school, including the boys, should wear the same outfit until the teacher apologizes to the student in front of the whole school and the school board, which then tells the entire staff Never Again.
“She has to leave because I find her too attractive”. Maybe the Randy teacher should be the one to leave the room...
Here's an idea... almost everyone that age has a cell phone, if any teacher does this in the future, pull out your cell phone (right there in class) dial 911 and tell the operator an adult teacher is being sexually inappropriate to an underage child and someone is needed at *this* school. The ensuing chaos from even one call would rapidly change how these things are handled.
I support this girl and the school district will be changing their dress code. But a few notes of interest: The teacher did not send the girl home, she sent her to the office. The principle gave her permission to go home as she was so upset. Also, the teacher was female!
Whichever teachers got excited and/or distracted should be fired. She didn't do anything wrong n it ain't her fault she's such a beautiful girl and that there are all those perverts out there.
If it makes HIM uncomfortable how is that HER problem? If he is uncomfortable it means he is thinking about it and thinking about it sexually and he can't stop himself so he wants her to stop before he can't control his urges. That's what I am gonna believe. If it was my daughter, then my husband, my son who would be 14 at that point, and I would find matching outfits to hers and arrive at his doorstep. She isn't naked. First, there should be no "females need to change their outfits based off male thoughts" but if they can't get themselves to so that, males would at least need to have the same rules. Only once had I seen it broken|enforced at my schools, 8th grade 1998. No belly shirts or bra-straps or tank straps showing . One girl wore a long-sleeved see through black shirt and tank. She had to grab a spare sweatshirt for thr tank straps. She lost her match despite speaking up.
Dress codes are ridiculous . The odd thing is , when I was in high school , a long ass time ago, the dress code was waaaay less strict . Nobody every got sent home for dress code violations either
This is so out of control. Girls should be able to wear what they want! This is actually modest af she could have worn no turtleneck and it still be okay. Obvisouly there is a boundry you cant wear shirts that show underboob or shorts that look like a thong but that is very extreme the fact people with crop tops are being f****d over by this weird bullshit these little boys pull is sad fr.
I'd like to know if I missed something. At any time did the assistant say this was an issue? From what I read it was the teacher saying the assistant might have a problem. I do wonder if that teacher was throwing the assistant under the bus. If he did say something, than yes, he needs to go. But I'd love to have heard from him directly.
dude, the dress is longer than most shorts that ppl dont get sent home for and the turtleneck is a TURTLENECK
i hate dress codes sometimes... in my middle school, if i had gone back in person, i'd have to wear a dress or skirt over a pair of leggings for some reason... leggings were 95% of what i wore on my legs in elementary... also the hat & hood rule... why and how does what's on my head affect my learning of things... smh
Boys can control their actions. Plus it's not like boys are dogs and girls are a provocative piece of meat! I mean it's not like she was wearing a tube top and a booty skirt!
I see nothing wrong or distracting with those clothing. Now if she is wearing strobe lights or highly reflective gear, I would understand. Who is being distracted by that?
It's in Canada though. I doubt a Canadian school will face punishment in the name of a US law.
Load More Replies...If a teacher sees a student being distracted by another's clothing either positive or negative then the teacher needs to speak to the student being distracted after class about the behavior. Not in the middle of a class. Just say "X, I saw you were distracted by Y in class today. Can you tell me what the issue was?" Then let X state what the issue was about. Cloths? Hair? Comments? And what would be the best solution. Should Y be made aware or issue? Should Y just be left alone? And also please let's address the parents for buying the clothes an letting the child/teen go to class in an outfit that might cause issues. A slip dress over a turtle neck is fine in general. If it's not breaking a dress code leave it alone. Kids have enough body issues to deal with than to be singled out. Just mention to the parent they maybe the dress could be a little longer or less body forming, over singling out a child. After all the parents are the parents.
I would be more pressed if she was wearing a Crop top, and Mini Skirt, or short shorts and a Bra, but this is just wow. Girls in the past could only wear dresses, now in 2021, they can't because Teachers would sexually assault them, claims that school. So now, parents are forced to be worried about the Educational daycare they send their kids to. Each Educational board's Judgement needs to be 99% precise, and Not Zealous for self benefit. Teachers should be background checked. Was the Teacher Married too? His wife must be sick to look at him.
In Australia our schools have actual school uniforms. Casual clothes are not allowed.
Load More Replies...It's no use He sees her He starts to shake and cough Just like the old man in that book by Nabokov
I DO think it look inappropriate but ONLY because i'm very strong pro uniforms person - any informal clothes at school would look inappropriate for me (girls or boys) 🤷♀️
stop sexualizing young students. The fact that teacher looked at an underage girl and immediately thought of lingerie and how it made them uncomfortable and sent them home as if they were the problem you’re so screwed up. any teacher that sexualizes a student is a pervert and shouldn’t be a teacher.
or here’s an idea, maybe stop specializing children. that teacher should be fired for looking at a student and immediately thinking of lingerie and how it made them uncomfortable and they need to leave. stop Sexualizing children perverts
No one seems to be talking about the fact that on top of everything else, she missed a day of school, too. That's her education. It's been thoroughly studied that being made to feel ashamed or embarassed about their clothing and being sexualized have long term impacts on their ability to concentrate on schoolwork.
dress codes: they should not be used to prevent 'distraction' no matter which party (buys, girls, staff) you are in. if that is what your dress code is for, then you need to rethink your priorities. under NO CIRCUMSTANCE should someone be sent home for what they wear. this is putting their wardrobe ahead of their education which is NOT COOL. ( don't like the idea of suspension at all though its kinda dumb) dress codes should be encouraging students to show respect to themselves. each person is precious, and dress codes should be providing guidelines to help people see themselves as human beings instead of objects. its about allowing self-worth to shine through and schools need to recognize that and not just give the "its distracting' excuse
That's interesting. Another post was about a woman who had white large breast size and didn't wear a bra but all was covered with a blazer and nothing was to see. There all people were like how she dare. How can I write that it's okay as long as there is no dress code and she has all covered. Here people are in the side of the girl (which I am by the way also), just... At teens it's okay for you but at adults not.
Might be a little Sabrina: The Teenage Witch aka dated, but fine. Sounds like someone's just being an a-hole or has a personal vendetta.
Well. it's the USA. The country where students get sent home because the teacher can''t control his perverted mind, where girls are raped by "promising students" without any consequences, where members of congress stalk and attack survivors of a school shooting and where perverts can openly show their support for rape and rapists. Do you really expect us to be shocked or even surprised?
It’s in Canada, so how does that change your opinion? It’s gotta since your opinion was entirely based on the USA and Canada is quite different.
Load More Replies...I agree that the USA is pretty f****d up, but this was in Canada
Load More Replies...Maybe daddy should advise his "beautiful, 12th grade daughter" not to go to school dressed like a hooker. That is not a "dress", that is a slip undergarment worn over the turtleneck, but a slip undergarment nonetheless.
To be blatantly fair the dress does look like a night dress / slip dress that is meant to be worn underneath another dress or to bed . Teens dress in fashions that make them feel comfortable and to have an identity uniquely to themselves- jezzzz I wore bright purple eye shadow to school and a singlet without a bra once ! Had the teacher following me around telling me that was highly inappropriate and to go home ! At the time I was super offended and now I look back in embarrassment as it really was ! This dress and turtle neck combination looks fine - if the school is that concerned then maybe they should have a uniform policy .
Question: Is that a dress or was that a knee length camisole that she was wearing on top of the turtle neck?
Har har, I got down voted for asking a question. I think there are a couple of troll Panda amongst us who likes to down vote when factual question are asked. At least I got my answer.
Load More Replies...Her clothing was following the dresss code. She’s covered to her knees and shoulders.
Load More Replies...sexualizing a black dress worn on TOP OF A TURTLENECK is not a good look on you
Load More Replies...But, she followed the dress code, just as if a guy wore a Speedo over sweatpants would be doing as well. The problem is that the teacher objectified the student, even though she is dressed appropriately. She isn’t wearing lingerie, so you can’t really make that argument.
Load More Replies...Where’s that? I went to high school in the early 00s and whale tail was such an issue. People constantly being told to tuck their thongs lol
Load More Replies...1. It’s not a slip. They said it wasn’t a slip, besides it’s not see through. So it was wrong to call her out when she followed the dress code 2. You don’t get choose what she wears.
Load More Replies...Right, because Japanese schoolgirl uniforms would never be sexualized like this. Oh wait...
Load More Replies...“After a short period of time, she was centered out by the teacher and was told the outfit she was wearing made or could make her or the teacher’s assistant, who was a male, feel uncomfortable.” It says "could make her OR the teacher’s assistant, who was a male, feel uncomfortable.” Women can be pervs too. She shouldn't have been thinking that way in the first place.
Load More Replies...But it doesn’t matter. She’s fully covered, up to her knees and shoulders. The fact a teacher can look at fully clothed minor is objectification of a student. It’s a lace dress over a turtleneck. There isn’t anything wrong with that.
Load More Replies...It’s not a slip. It’s a dress. She got sent home bc her dress looked like a slip, but it isn’t, meaning that teachers are sexualizing students.
Load More Replies...She isn't walking around in a slip though. She is covered up to her knees, and the fact that her teacher thought it resembled a slip, even though she isn't wearing one is objectifying a student. Her outfit looks like a normal lace dress, a little bit thin straps to some, however, she is wearing a turtleneck underneath.
Load More Replies...Does your school still have a dress code for non uniform day? When I was at school, there were still rules about what was acceptable for non uniform days - no t-shirts with slogans (to get around the offensive ones), no open-toed sandals, no showing underwear and no camouflage. You find similar rules in many less formal workplaces too.
Load More Replies...She’s modestly dressed, followed school guidelines, and got wrongfully sent home for it. People protested because it was unfair. Also, you don’t get to choose what she wants to wear.
Load More Replies...That is such a disgusting comment. Yes, it does look like a slip - that was my first thought when I saw it - but she's not wearing anything remotely revealing. To say that she's advertising is a really gross way to think about it.
Load More Replies...I feel sorry for you if that’s what you think lingerie looks like. You must never get to have sex. You seem super horny, and confused.
Load More Replies...I don't see how a dialog is even necessary, she's wearing a turtleneck with long sleeves and a dress that goes down to her knees, if the teacher can't stop sexualizing her because he sees lace on her dress, then that doesn't sound like the girl's problem.
Load More Replies...The principal of my school once banned wearing skirts or shorts. The kids did a protest saying that it was unreasonable, and it changed. People have to protest if they want things to change.
Load More Replies...Getting ready for my down votes, but when I first saw it I thought she was wearing a nightie. Maybe school uniform may be the way forward as kids who can't afford designer clothes are all dressed the same
Load More Replies...Stop blaming the child and start blaming your own pervertedness. Smh
I'm really struggling to see what is so inappropriate and the closest I can come up with is that a "slip" is underwear - at least they were when I was growing up (a long time ago); they were worn under jersey material dresses to prevent excess clinging to curves (creating VPL among other problems). The lace on the bodice part is a clue. But fashions have changed, and as long as no part of the dress below the waist (since above the waist is covered by her sweater) is see-through, there is nothing here that is offensive or inappropriate.
Ummm.... the lace is seen on many regular clothes, too. I have that lace neckline on a spagetti-strap *dress* in my close right now. It's not black. But that's the only difference.
Load More Replies...There's nothing wrong with a school having a dress code (although it wasn't stated in the article if they did or not- maybe it was just the teacher's opinion), but the way the teacher ridiculed the teenager in front of the class was not okay at all.
In what way would this violate a dress code? She's fully cover from neck to knees. The article says her clothes were cited for "being distracting" not for "violating dress code". The teacher was out of line and if he found that outfit "distracting" he has a problem and maybe shouldn't be around minors.
Load More Replies...Bro just focus on the lesson and stop focusing on the god damn child. And don't send them home for it, that's absolute bull crap Insane, they gotta get fired. Oh yeah and one more thing, one of the tweets were right. It isn't a 17 yr old girls JOB to make the teacher feel comfortable, they don't give a living crap.
The problem here is not that a girl is dressing inappropriately - it is that a teacher is sexualising school kids and blaming the kids for it. Instead of demonising girls, how about we teach boys not to objectify them? Just a thought.
As a male teacher in a K-12 school, I find this insane that it even happened! No one who loves education and who loves sharing that education with others should EVER be going out of their way like this to embarrass a student and prevent her from taking part in the class. Disgusting. The school clearly doesn't have a uniform and no dress code on earth who deny that sort of modest outfit. Like they mentioned in the article, it is covering shoulders to knees and last time I checked, we are not living in Puritan England. It is crazy to me, both as a person and educator, that we still run into these issues! At a school that I worked at previously (with a uniform), a teacher made all the students (boys and girls) kneel on the floor and measured their skirts and shorts to make sure that they were no more than 4 inches from the ground! It was bizarre to say the least, more like an abuse of power. Love your material, love your students (in an appropriate way), be an EDUCATOR.
Oh hellll no. First off, there's nothing even "remotely" inappropriate about that outfit. And even if it is was revealing, that still wouldn't be an excuse for a teacher to be creeping on a student and blaming her outfit for his twistedness. No matter what you wear, you are never "asking for it."
So let me get this straight: • If a girl shows any skin, it's inappropriate. • If a girl covers up, it's inappropriate. • If a girl wears something comfortable, it's inappropriate. • If a girl, it's inappropriate?? I'm starting to think conservatives need to just stop trying to pretend and come out and admit that what they really mean is "if you're not a wealthy white man, you should be property". Disgusting. It's no wonder this country is going down the toilet so quickly. So much religious conservatism corrupting the political landscape with its sheer, unabashed idiocy.
Teacher doesn’t need to be around teenagers. Maybe that attitude was acceptable 20 years ago but not anymore. Now it just makes you look like a perv, and rightfully so.
Why is anybody downvoting this person? They’re entirely right!
Load More Replies...Apparently now instead of just your knees and shoulder (already completely ridiculous) it's also any skin at all. IS THAT A HAND I SEE OH MY GAWD GIRL YOU CAN'T BE SHOWING THAT sooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid
this is stupid... turtlenecks are perfectly fine, not exposing anything, not revealing in any way, therefore idk how there is a problem. anyways, the age old excuse that itll 'distract boys' isnt the girls problem. she shouldnt be sent home, the boy should, and he should stay there till he learn self control. and if teachers deem shoulders or any other part of a girl/woman 'distracting' he shouldnt be any where near women.
Do we also send home male students with muscular, athletic bodies who wear tight t-shirts because they might distract a female teacher? No. No, we don’t. Yet we subject female students to blame and humiliation because an adult male cannot be expected to control his inappropriate sexual urges towards an underage student. What the actual f**k?
Well sure, she's covered all the way up to her neck, but did did leave her knees exposed, how can any teacher withstand that? Best to wear a burka so teachers don't need to be responsible for their own sexualization of teenagers.
I guess it is the same teachers that wouldn't teach girls with burka, nicab or headscarf.
Load More Replies...My daughter in middle school wore leggings (they were allowed),a turtleneck with a dress over the top. She got in trouble for the outfit because the dress was over the leggings. It was winter. She either had to remove the leggings or get into trouble. This didn't set well with me because leggings were ok to wear but not under a dress????? I told them she would not be changing or getting into trouble and if they pushed it I too would push it. But in the summer guys were wearing their pants pulled down or T-shirts they cut the whole side out but that was ok!
Wouldn't schools have encouraged her to wear something under her dress? What the hell is going on in your daughter's school district?
Load More Replies...This is so true, I had a male teacher in 5th grade that would dress code my friend everyday for to short shorts. It's not our fault that we are girls.
Back when i was in school, the dress code regarding shorts was that they had to be longer on you than where your fingertips were when standing straight. For some reason, women's shorts mostly seem cut shorter than that. I think it's a ridiculous standard. 15 years prior to my term in high school, athletic shorts for both men and women were disgustingly short, and students there wore them. I failed to see what the problem was.
Load More Replies...So, here is something I find odd. I was 14 in 1974. I had a lovely outfit my mother made me. It was "palazzo pants" (google that one) with a halter top that tied around the next and my waist. My back was completely bare - but it was a back. Did I get sent home? No. Did anyone comment on it? With the exception of my french teacher who thought it was beautiful, no. And when I was in high school, we wore tank tops that had spaghetti straps ALL THE TIME. Now if you even think about wearing those, you get sent home. I would have thought we would progress, not go backward.
My older sis wore a tube top to school in junior high, and she was, er, well-endowed for her age. Nobody blinked. It covered what was considered "black box" material (referring to th eblack box put over such body parts in photos, etc.).
Load More Replies...If the boys are getting distracted, why do the girls get sent home? It's the boys fault for being distracted...
Also so what if he is distracted? It’s Gen Z. They have phones. They’re already distracted. And if they wanted to look at girl’s legs or butt or boobs, they can just open Instagram and see millions of young women BEGGING for attention at any moment. They don’t need to see that student in a skirt to be distracted.
Load More Replies...I agree about the bit about (rape) victim blaming. If wearing clothes X distracts, then if she keeps wearing X and gets assaulted it is her fault??? No, the one who can't control himself if a female body is visible is too blame. I'd say turn it around. Dress as sexy as possible and then teach people to keep their urges under controls. (To ask them to stop looking is a bit too much then, if I see something exceptional I keep looking to).
Imagine you are an adult & an educator and your reaction to a child’s clothing is that your coworkers may become sexually distracted or even aroused. Is this not wholly a statement on how you perceive your coworkers? Or is it an issue you have with your own body and the experiences you’ve had when men aren’t held accountable?I don’t see how this response had anything to do with the student.
They say its f*cking distracting them and they make even MORE of a distraction for the Whole school. Like wtf come on guys. They made things 10x worse
as long as they aren't wearing like a swimsuit or something, they're fine. I would not find that outfit at all distracting
A TURTLENECK is now sexual b/c it is under a dress. Newsflash: Went to a Catholic school and in winter we were encouraged to wear turtlenecks under our "jumpers" (for the UK crowd: An ugly plaid dress thing without sleeves). If nuns were okay with a turtleneck under what's essentiall a dress ---- and you can't get more modest in how she covered up under that lace neckline ----- then everyone else needs to chill the f*** out.
Instead of telling girls that they should go home because you're getting distracted, and that they have to learn to not do that; you should go home and learn not to get distracted.
I understand if it was actually something inappropriate for school but being mostly covered doesn’t break rules. Especially a turtle neck.
Yes he must cover his face, it's a distracting one!
Load More Replies...Putting aside the entire aspect of sexuality and personal choice, one incredibly important trait that needs to be developed early on: Getting your work done amidst a sea of potential distractions. That is not an excuse.
Distractions are a part of life. It's actually a good thing for someone to distract you while rehearsing an oral presentation (or something like that) so you'll be prepared for the real thing.
Load More Replies...I'd be more pressed if it were something more scantily clad. Mini skirt + Crop top Short shorts + Sports bra. Mini dress + heels and stocking. However, she has something under a Long dress, barely any skin is showing... Girls in the past were practically mandated to wear dresses, and now that's against a Private law. How damn ironic. Did the school board ever think, if a Teacher is to feel "Uncomfortable" by STARING at a LITTLE GIRL'S attire long enough to FEEL a certain way, they didn't think this feeling would be Hormones? What would make it worse, does the man have a Wife? She must be sick looking at him after this. For real man, if a Teacher Feels like Girls being Females is an Issue, HES THE DAMN ISSUE feeling like he wants fulfill his Urges of being a Twisted person. Fire him, immediately, and Investigate the board.
It does not matter if a girl wears a crop top, or booty shorts, what matters is that perverts like the teaching assistant get kicked out.
Load More Replies...It's interesting because the "no distracting attire" or whatever is definitely a rule at my school, and I had never thought about it the way the father did, that it shouldn't be an ok rule in this modern day and age. (Innocent little me assumed it was for things like... I don't know, those changing sequin shirts; something that the student could be fiddling with rather than paying attention. Not anything that makes (or "might make") a teacher "uncomfortable" without violating any other more specific rule of the dress code!)
WTF? I'm totally OK with schools preventing their students from having a race to see who can dress the most provocatively. Heck, when I was in school, boys could never wear shorts, even in 95 degree weather with no AC. But this is just WIERD. She's modestly dressed!
I don't get it. I'm totally OK with preventing schools from being a race to see who can dress the most provocatively. Yes, if a boy shows up in a wifebeater or a cut-off muscle shirt, he can go home, too. When I went to school, boys couldn't even wear SHORTS and we had no A/C in the schools! But THIS? Seriously? It's MODEST!
I made a pair of flip flops from duct tape and wore them to school on Friday. No one said anything. I wore them again on Monday and the rules had changed. I was told to change shoes or go home.
The whole school, including the boys, should wear the same outfit until the teacher apologizes to the student in front of the whole school and the school board, which then tells the entire staff Never Again.
“She has to leave because I find her too attractive”. Maybe the Randy teacher should be the one to leave the room...
Here's an idea... almost everyone that age has a cell phone, if any teacher does this in the future, pull out your cell phone (right there in class) dial 911 and tell the operator an adult teacher is being sexually inappropriate to an underage child and someone is needed at *this* school. The ensuing chaos from even one call would rapidly change how these things are handled.
I support this girl and the school district will be changing their dress code. But a few notes of interest: The teacher did not send the girl home, she sent her to the office. The principle gave her permission to go home as she was so upset. Also, the teacher was female!
Whichever teachers got excited and/or distracted should be fired. She didn't do anything wrong n it ain't her fault she's such a beautiful girl and that there are all those perverts out there.
If it makes HIM uncomfortable how is that HER problem? If he is uncomfortable it means he is thinking about it and thinking about it sexually and he can't stop himself so he wants her to stop before he can't control his urges. That's what I am gonna believe. If it was my daughter, then my husband, my son who would be 14 at that point, and I would find matching outfits to hers and arrive at his doorstep. She isn't naked. First, there should be no "females need to change their outfits based off male thoughts" but if they can't get themselves to so that, males would at least need to have the same rules. Only once had I seen it broken|enforced at my schools, 8th grade 1998. No belly shirts or bra-straps or tank straps showing . One girl wore a long-sleeved see through black shirt and tank. She had to grab a spare sweatshirt for thr tank straps. She lost her match despite speaking up.
Dress codes are ridiculous . The odd thing is , when I was in high school , a long ass time ago, the dress code was waaaay less strict . Nobody every got sent home for dress code violations either
This is so out of control. Girls should be able to wear what they want! This is actually modest af she could have worn no turtleneck and it still be okay. Obvisouly there is a boundry you cant wear shirts that show underboob or shorts that look like a thong but that is very extreme the fact people with crop tops are being f****d over by this weird bullshit these little boys pull is sad fr.
I'd like to know if I missed something. At any time did the assistant say this was an issue? From what I read it was the teacher saying the assistant might have a problem. I do wonder if that teacher was throwing the assistant under the bus. If he did say something, than yes, he needs to go. But I'd love to have heard from him directly.
dude, the dress is longer than most shorts that ppl dont get sent home for and the turtleneck is a TURTLENECK
i hate dress codes sometimes... in my middle school, if i had gone back in person, i'd have to wear a dress or skirt over a pair of leggings for some reason... leggings were 95% of what i wore on my legs in elementary... also the hat & hood rule... why and how does what's on my head affect my learning of things... smh
Boys can control their actions. Plus it's not like boys are dogs and girls are a provocative piece of meat! I mean it's not like she was wearing a tube top and a booty skirt!
I see nothing wrong or distracting with those clothing. Now if she is wearing strobe lights or highly reflective gear, I would understand. Who is being distracted by that?
It's in Canada though. I doubt a Canadian school will face punishment in the name of a US law.
Load More Replies...If a teacher sees a student being distracted by another's clothing either positive or negative then the teacher needs to speak to the student being distracted after class about the behavior. Not in the middle of a class. Just say "X, I saw you were distracted by Y in class today. Can you tell me what the issue was?" Then let X state what the issue was about. Cloths? Hair? Comments? And what would be the best solution. Should Y be made aware or issue? Should Y just be left alone? And also please let's address the parents for buying the clothes an letting the child/teen go to class in an outfit that might cause issues. A slip dress over a turtle neck is fine in general. If it's not breaking a dress code leave it alone. Kids have enough body issues to deal with than to be singled out. Just mention to the parent they maybe the dress could be a little longer or less body forming, over singling out a child. After all the parents are the parents.
I would be more pressed if she was wearing a Crop top, and Mini Skirt, or short shorts and a Bra, but this is just wow. Girls in the past could only wear dresses, now in 2021, they can't because Teachers would sexually assault them, claims that school. So now, parents are forced to be worried about the Educational daycare they send their kids to. Each Educational board's Judgement needs to be 99% precise, and Not Zealous for self benefit. Teachers should be background checked. Was the Teacher Married too? His wife must be sick to look at him.
In Australia our schools have actual school uniforms. Casual clothes are not allowed.
Load More Replies...It's no use He sees her He starts to shake and cough Just like the old man in that book by Nabokov
I DO think it look inappropriate but ONLY because i'm very strong pro uniforms person - any informal clothes at school would look inappropriate for me (girls or boys) 🤷♀️
stop sexualizing young students. The fact that teacher looked at an underage girl and immediately thought of lingerie and how it made them uncomfortable and sent them home as if they were the problem you’re so screwed up. any teacher that sexualizes a student is a pervert and shouldn’t be a teacher.
or here’s an idea, maybe stop specializing children. that teacher should be fired for looking at a student and immediately thinking of lingerie and how it made them uncomfortable and they need to leave. stop Sexualizing children perverts
No one seems to be talking about the fact that on top of everything else, she missed a day of school, too. That's her education. It's been thoroughly studied that being made to feel ashamed or embarassed about their clothing and being sexualized have long term impacts on their ability to concentrate on schoolwork.
dress codes: they should not be used to prevent 'distraction' no matter which party (buys, girls, staff) you are in. if that is what your dress code is for, then you need to rethink your priorities. under NO CIRCUMSTANCE should someone be sent home for what they wear. this is putting their wardrobe ahead of their education which is NOT COOL. ( don't like the idea of suspension at all though its kinda dumb) dress codes should be encouraging students to show respect to themselves. each person is precious, and dress codes should be providing guidelines to help people see themselves as human beings instead of objects. its about allowing self-worth to shine through and schools need to recognize that and not just give the "its distracting' excuse
That's interesting. Another post was about a woman who had white large breast size and didn't wear a bra but all was covered with a blazer and nothing was to see. There all people were like how she dare. How can I write that it's okay as long as there is no dress code and she has all covered. Here people are in the side of the girl (which I am by the way also), just... At teens it's okay for you but at adults not.
Might be a little Sabrina: The Teenage Witch aka dated, but fine. Sounds like someone's just being an a-hole or has a personal vendetta.
Well. it's the USA. The country where students get sent home because the teacher can''t control his perverted mind, where girls are raped by "promising students" without any consequences, where members of congress stalk and attack survivors of a school shooting and where perverts can openly show their support for rape and rapists. Do you really expect us to be shocked or even surprised?
It’s in Canada, so how does that change your opinion? It’s gotta since your opinion was entirely based on the USA and Canada is quite different.
Load More Replies...I agree that the USA is pretty f****d up, but this was in Canada
Load More Replies...Maybe daddy should advise his "beautiful, 12th grade daughter" not to go to school dressed like a hooker. That is not a "dress", that is a slip undergarment worn over the turtleneck, but a slip undergarment nonetheless.
To be blatantly fair the dress does look like a night dress / slip dress that is meant to be worn underneath another dress or to bed . Teens dress in fashions that make them feel comfortable and to have an identity uniquely to themselves- jezzzz I wore bright purple eye shadow to school and a singlet without a bra once ! Had the teacher following me around telling me that was highly inappropriate and to go home ! At the time I was super offended and now I look back in embarrassment as it really was ! This dress and turtle neck combination looks fine - if the school is that concerned then maybe they should have a uniform policy .
Question: Is that a dress or was that a knee length camisole that she was wearing on top of the turtle neck?
Har har, I got down voted for asking a question. I think there are a couple of troll Panda amongst us who likes to down vote when factual question are asked. At least I got my answer.
Load More Replies...Her clothing was following the dresss code. She’s covered to her knees and shoulders.
Load More Replies...sexualizing a black dress worn on TOP OF A TURTLENECK is not a good look on you
Load More Replies...But, she followed the dress code, just as if a guy wore a Speedo over sweatpants would be doing as well. The problem is that the teacher objectified the student, even though she is dressed appropriately. She isn’t wearing lingerie, so you can’t really make that argument.
Load More Replies...Where’s that? I went to high school in the early 00s and whale tail was such an issue. People constantly being told to tuck their thongs lol
Load More Replies...1. It’s not a slip. They said it wasn’t a slip, besides it’s not see through. So it was wrong to call her out when she followed the dress code 2. You don’t get choose what she wears.
Load More Replies...Right, because Japanese schoolgirl uniforms would never be sexualized like this. Oh wait...
Load More Replies...“After a short period of time, she was centered out by the teacher and was told the outfit she was wearing made or could make her or the teacher’s assistant, who was a male, feel uncomfortable.” It says "could make her OR the teacher’s assistant, who was a male, feel uncomfortable.” Women can be pervs too. She shouldn't have been thinking that way in the first place.
Load More Replies...But it doesn’t matter. She’s fully covered, up to her knees and shoulders. The fact a teacher can look at fully clothed minor is objectification of a student. It’s a lace dress over a turtleneck. There isn’t anything wrong with that.
Load More Replies...It’s not a slip. It’s a dress. She got sent home bc her dress looked like a slip, but it isn’t, meaning that teachers are sexualizing students.
Load More Replies...She isn't walking around in a slip though. She is covered up to her knees, and the fact that her teacher thought it resembled a slip, even though she isn't wearing one is objectifying a student. Her outfit looks like a normal lace dress, a little bit thin straps to some, however, she is wearing a turtleneck underneath.
Load More Replies...Does your school still have a dress code for non uniform day? When I was at school, there were still rules about what was acceptable for non uniform days - no t-shirts with slogans (to get around the offensive ones), no open-toed sandals, no showing underwear and no camouflage. You find similar rules in many less formal workplaces too.
Load More Replies...She’s modestly dressed, followed school guidelines, and got wrongfully sent home for it. People protested because it was unfair. Also, you don’t get to choose what she wants to wear.
Load More Replies...That is such a disgusting comment. Yes, it does look like a slip - that was my first thought when I saw it - but she's not wearing anything remotely revealing. To say that she's advertising is a really gross way to think about it.
Load More Replies...I feel sorry for you if that’s what you think lingerie looks like. You must never get to have sex. You seem super horny, and confused.
Load More Replies...I don't see how a dialog is even necessary, she's wearing a turtleneck with long sleeves and a dress that goes down to her knees, if the teacher can't stop sexualizing her because he sees lace on her dress, then that doesn't sound like the girl's problem.
Load More Replies...The principal of my school once banned wearing skirts or shorts. The kids did a protest saying that it was unreasonable, and it changed. People have to protest if they want things to change.
Load More Replies...Getting ready for my down votes, but when I first saw it I thought she was wearing a nightie. Maybe school uniform may be the way forward as kids who can't afford designer clothes are all dressed the same
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