@StealTheFruit Satanist? I'd love to hear more

Jeffery- it just means that I oppose organized religion because it exploits vulnerable people and is used as a money-making plan or a means of control.

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Choices? How often is religion a choice?

I did.

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What makes you say @DramaNerd isn't intelligent? Maybe you're the one who needs to do some research.

@Wim I believe you misunderstood me. The point is not the source, but the incorrectness of what you are claiming (that a woman's word is only worth half that of a man, etc.). "That book" is a holy book, by the way, so please try to remain respectful. The verse I was mentioning is in the second surah (Surah Baqarah) of the Qur'an, verse 282. Perhaps there is a hadith too about it; I wouldn't be sure, as I haven't done much research into that field of law yet. I have, however, memorised the entire Qur'an, so I do feel confident enough to direct your attention towards a particular verse, should I remember it. However, once again, I have not officially studied further into the religion but you can find several explanations by scholars should you care to search for it. I can personally direct you to some sources if you wish. Good luck :)

Well then you did some research... :-) But have you ever read the bible entirely? The NT has some good parables because that Jesus dude looked like a nice guy bu the OT is full of murder, revenge, jealousy, misogyny, unreasonable punishment and spite from their god Jehovah, and I guess the Qu'ran also has it's violent and revenge parts like kill all infidels. It's also a bunch of lies and BS stories so that gets no respect from me. And thanks for the offer but for me religion is just a waste of time and brings out a lot of ugly aspects in people. We also all were born without it yet most of them, like me, have been indoctrinated from birth so it must be hard to let it go or even accept some facts that cannot be rebutted but I left when I was 18 and never looked back. I've seen enough, it's just a way of controlling and manipulating people...

No, I haven't read the entire Bible, just parts of it. I know you've probably heard the "that's taken out of context" argument many times, but honestly, it's quite true. I understand your point of view, especially since people use religion to do terrible things including controlling and manipulating people - but there are also nice, normal people who are religious and are trying to do their best, who use religion to find hope and be good people, who would deserve at least a base level of respect directed towards themselves and their religion. As in, maybe not calling a book some people call holy "a bunch of lies and BS stories" even though that's your opinion. It can be quite offensive. I'm glad you got out of that situation when you were 18, though, and I'm sorry you went through that.

To be honest all of my friends are atheists so we never talk really about religion except a few remarks now and then when some crazy religious stuff happens somewhere in the world. And I don't want to put a lot of energy in it either, besides a little chat on the web now and then because I realise I most likely won't change a religious person's mind, and also vice versa. But at least you seem like a reasonable guy, unlike some others. I also realise that you or some people might think I'm an atheist crusader but most of the time I ignore everything about it because there is little I can do about it but sometimes I just get triggered, and even more by people's reaction what triggered me in the 1st place. Like yesterday we watched the film Yes, God, Yes and some parts of it made me really angry and sad. Religion is a dangerous weapon, and a lot of things I've read in the bible or see religious groups and people do offend me too.

I definitely agree that religion has made people do crazy, violent, and terrible things. I guess the purpose of conversation isn't exactly to change other people's minds but just to open our own minds further or to understand other people's situations more. Appreciate you saying that - nice to have a normal chat with someone :)

@Wim, Ah, here's another positive experience we Muslim women have... Hate and racism.

Muslims are not a race, and you all say religion is your choice so suck it up...

Yes, you're quite correct, Muslims are not a race. Perhaps I should have used the term "Islamophobia" instead. And as to your second comment - "You decided to go for a walk, so it's your fault you got kidnapped."

It's Sunday dear. And calling any religion out for their idiotic rules is the sane thing to do and has nothing to with discrimination or phobia you brainwashed parrots.

You're not a woman, are you?

Hmmm... After 3 months of careful evaluation... You're not a human being with basic respect, are you?

It only took you 3 months, guess not all is lost on you. But I'm actually quite tolerant of other people's opinions and behaviour, except if they originate from something as illogical and backwards like religion or other r******d concepts.

There is no such thing as being tolerant of people's opinions, and simultaneously having prejudice.

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