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Woman Wants To Avoid Surrogacy, Tells Sister She’s Infertile, Sister Explodes When Truth Comes Out
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Woman Wants To Avoid Surrogacy, Tells Sister She’s Infertile, Sister Explodes When Truth Comes Out

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Surrogacy is a major mental and physical commitment, not something to be taken lightly. Giving up your body for the sake of someone else’s dream is a massive sacrifice and there are all sorts of risk factors involved. 

For one woman, her sister’s dream of having a child depended on her being the surrogate mother. After one request too many, the woman snapped and told her sister she was infertile, but the lie came out when she got pregnant years later. Now she’s wondering if she was a jerk for being dishonest.

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Everyone’s body is their own, but this woman’s sister thought she was entitled to hers

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Desperate to have a child, the sister wouldn’t stop nagging her about surrogacy

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One night after much pestering, the woman snapped and told the whole family that she was infertile, just to get her sister off her back

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Eventually the sister and her husband got divorced because of her fertility issues

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Now the woman’s pregnant, her sister is accusing her of ruining her marriage, and she’s turned to the internet to ask if she was a jerk for lying

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OP begins her story by telling the community that, three years ago, her sister Anna had been struggling with fertility issues. She goes on to explain that she was only 26 then, and that she and her husband had decided to hold off on having kids so they could concentrate on their careers.

Anna kept asking OP to be her surrogate, but no matter how many times OP politely declined, she wouldn’t take no for an answer. OP says she explained to her that she wasn’t comfortable being pregnant for somebody else and didn’t think she could handle the mental and physical demands of surrogacy, but Anna wouldn’t listen.

Things came to a head at a family gathering when Anna brought up the topic of surrogacy once again. This time OP felt her boundaries were being trampled one too many times and told everyone that she couldn’t be a surrogate mom because she was infertile herself. This news devastated Anna, who put her relationship with OP on ice.

Eventually Anna and her husband couldn’t deal with the infertility issue and ended up getting divorced. Now OP is 29 and pregnant with her first child, but when she told Anna the happy news, she lost it, called OP a liar and accused her of ruining her marriage.

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According to OP, Anna has been acting angry and irrational towards her ever since. Now OP is wondering if she was the jerk for lying to Anna to avoid an unwanted surrogacy.

From what OP tells us in her story, it would seem that Anna is rather narcissistic and, on top of that, has never really gotten to grips with the concept of bodily autonomy.

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In her article for VeryWellMind, Kendra Cherry writes that a narcissist is someone with an inflated image of themselves. A person with narcissistic tendencies often has such an excessive interest in their own image and appearance that they lack consideration or empathy for others.  

When dealing with a narcissist, the crucial first step is to recognize the signs. Do they lack empathy? Do they self-aggrandize? Are they unapologetic? Do they overreact to criticism? Are they manipulative? At times, narcissistic characteristics are easy to recognize, but covert narcissism is more challenging to pick up on.

Cherry puts forward some tips for dealing with a narcissist. These include not taking their behavior personally, establishing and enforcing boundaries, keeping a watch for gaslighting, boosting your self-esteem, and creating and confiding in a support network like friends and family.

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According to the HIV Language Compendium website, bod­ily integrity and auton­omy refers to the human right that every­one should enjoy taking self-deter­mined deci­sions over their own body. In other words, bod­ily integrity and auton­omy is the human right that all indi­vid­u­als have to deter­mine their own fate with­out undue polic­ing or patron­iz­ing con­trol over their own bod­ies.

According to the World Economic Forum website, a United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) report has suggested that roughly half of all women are denied bodily autonomy. 

In the 57 countries surveyed, the proportion of women aged between 15 and 49 able to make autonomous decisions when it comes to sex with partners or husbands, contraception, and seeking health care ranged from 87% to as low as 7%. 

Bearing this in mind, Anna was well out of line demanding that OP be her surrogate, since that would be impinging upon OP’s right to bodily autonomy, that is, to make her own decisions about what she does and doesn’t do with her body.

Bored Panda reached out to psychologist Dr. Deborah Hecker to get her take on the situation.

When we asked her what she thought of the sister’s insistence that OP be her surrogate, she had this to say, “I am very sympathetic to what I imagine are the sister’s emotions of grief and despair in response to her infertility.  However, it seems that her feelings of helplessness have clouded her judgment about what she can reasonably expect of her sister.”

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Hecker goes on to add, “Surrogacy is a kind gift, not an expectation. It is a difficult journey that demands sacrifice. Even if her sister is eligible for surrogacy, it’s not her obligation to do so. Her refusal to accept her sister’s negative response is manipulative and controlling. Despite her feelings of entitlement to her sister’s body, that is not her right.”

We asked Dr. Hecker for one piece of advice she’d offer OP going forward and she responded, “If ever there was a time for her to stand up for herself and deal with the consequences, it’s telling her sister she is not prepared to be her surrogate! As a result of her inability to stay firm with her decision, I would suggest she evaluate two things; her relationship with her sister and her own difficulty engaging in constructive conflict.”

Hecker concluded, “Sibling bonds are among the most intimate.  Not feeling safe enough to be completely honest with her sister means there are some weak links in the relationship that need to be healed.  All relationships have conflict.  It is critically important to be able to look people in the eyes and be truthful. That is something she needs to learn to do.”

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What do you think of OP’s situation? Does Anna have a right to be angry at her, or are her narcissistic tendencies getting the better of her? Let us know your opinion in the comments!

In the comments, readers quickly sprang to the woman’s defense, claiming that, if anything, the sister was the jerk for wanting to treat her like a free womb

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Sunny Day
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4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sis wanted a baby to "fix her marriage". We all know how well that works out.

Vinnie
Community Member
4 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sister and her husband couldn't agree on how to move forward. Sounds like the husband was open to other options and the sister was incapable of making the leap to a different surrogate or adoption. Probably thought of the OP as the closest thing to passing on genetic material.

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Monica G
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think being a surogate mother can be a very difficult emotional process.

Captain McSmoot
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It appears as thought OP's sister is a tad unhinged; *this* could very well be the reason her marriage ended. It's ironic that a woman with a uterus thinks she has the right to tell another woman with a uterus what to do with her body. It would appear telling a woman what to do with her body is not unique to men (usually labeled as old and white) as most would have you believe...

Tabitha
Community Member
4 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, but it mostly is, as those are the same old white—-and overwhelmingly rich and supposedly religious but actually hypocritical—-men who more easily land powerful enough jobs (basically have them handed to them on a silver plate by other members of the boys’ club) to dictate policy, even when they have zero understanding of basic concepts like menstruation and childbirth (even though many of them are married ffs), than women who are way smarter, more qualified, way more deserving, and actually possess the same anatomy as other women so completely understand, can ever get to.

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Insomniac
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that it's good that Sis did not get a surrogate and got divorced instead, because she would be a terrible mother. No sense of boundaries. Massive entitlement. No empathy. Hugely manipulative. At one time, my older sister had offered to surrogate for me. I *can* get pregnant, but my body likes to not stay pregnant, and there is major worry about what it would do to my mental health. But after her third child, her health deteriorated, and she said "I'm sorry, but I can't do it again." And I accepted that, because it's HER FREAKING BODY not mine. And I can be content being Auntie rather than Mummy.

Schmebulock
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell her you thought you were infertile, but after a lengthy discussion with your doctor you discovered you were just doing it wrong by engaging in butt stuff.

V
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone who has struggled with fertility myself, I find people who make their infertility other people's problems horrible. Of course you can be sad, grieve if you need to, but if it gets to the point that you want to drag others into it or can't be happy for other people having kids, or think you have the right to say what a woman can do with her uterus you need to see a therapist.

Libstak
Community Member
4 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sister is dangerously unhinged. Unfortunately, if at all possible you need to go no contact and even take steps to protect yourself. This isn't over, she is obsessively convinced all her issues now are your fault and they are huge issues she has created in her mind.

Kaeda
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I once told my toxic mother (that kept pestering me to have a child even though I was 19yo, in college, and not married) that I got my tubes tied. She stopped talking for me for eight years. I have no regrets. I wasn't ready for kids. Now, fifteen years later, my husband and I are happy, financially stable, and have two sweet kids (7yo and 3yo).

Janelle Collard
Community Member
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4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or OP could tell sis: "I lied to get you to shut TF up about my being your unpaid surrogate." If OP wants to nuke her relationship with sis, she could tell her: "I didn't want to be your surrogate cuz you'd be a s**tty mother."

Hphizzle
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1: As mentioned, surrogacy isn’t/shouldn’t done on women who haven’t birth a child yet. 2: I would bet money on the fact that not agreeing on fertility issues was only the tip of the iceberg for what brought this marriage down. Go no/low contact until sister works through her issues in therapy.

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one has a right to your body, so sister is AH. Also, many many women are yold they are infertile and then conceive. I am close with three families who were told they couldn't have bio kids, adopted and within a year had a bio child, so that their oldest two are very close in age. While I think some of this is a scam due to the cost of fertility treatment, fertility/ability to carry to term is a spectrum for most. Obviously some conditions preclude pregnancy, but for most, it's just a probability that's low, not zero. Glad the sister isn't adopt, she is a nightmare of a person, would have been controlling and guilt trippy as a mother.

Gwyn
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I guess this is an unpopular opinion but I think she should have stood her ground and not lied. Lies like that are just artificially enforcing a boundary that needs a real foundation behind it. Obviously when the lie was found out that boundary fell again and opened her up to more criticism. NTA for not wanting to be a surrogate but next time stand by your principles instead of lying about it.

Inglourioustmnt
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ridiculous. No one has a right to demand that. I so t want kids yet, good so have one for me. Gtfo. As a husband id never be ok with my wife having someone elses baby. That would be divorce worthy.

Orysha
Community Member
4 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ana is manipulative b.itch. Good thing she's infertile Let's hope she won't adopt.

carol bland
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At what point do you stop 'politely' refusing their ridiculous request, and simply tell them to f*ck off!?

tori Ohno
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She didn't do anything wrong. Lying was the only way to shut her up.

RAM31280
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While lying to your sister who refused to take no for an answer was a d**k move, you are still NTA. If sis's marriage couldn't handle other child options, odds are they wouldn't have stayed together even with their own biological child. On a side note, I will never understand how people can be so adamant to have biological kids when one/both have fertility issues, there are so many kids in this world that need loving homes and it seems like adoption is not an option for some people.

Melissa Harris
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OPs sister is mentally unwell and is likely not currently fit to raise a child. The OP didn't cause her sister's infertility or end her marriage and is not obligated to be her sister's surrogate. The extended family should get sister mental health help.

Ashlie Benson
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd go ESH. She's TA for saying she was infertile when she wasn't. I hate when people say that as a way to be a scapegoat. Because if they really aren't, then later when they do have a baby people that really are just get told we must not be trying hard enough or some such nonsense. 'No' is a complete sentence.

Gozer LeGozerian
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not really the AH. No one's entitled to know about her fertility status but herself and her partner. Being abused by your own sister because she wants to use you as a brood mare is a perfectly justifiable excuse to lie.

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CBolt
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA Why did Anna insist that OP was her only hope? Your surrogate doesn't have to be a relative - there are others who will do this very generous thing for total strangers. Why, when OP lied & said she was infertile (which apparently was the only way to shut Anna down) did Anna get angry? Why did Anna not know a surrogate has to have already had a live birth? It sounds as if Anna was completely obsessed & consumed with the idea that she must have a child -nothing else matters. That in itself can ruin a marriage. OP isn't to blame.

P.L. Packer
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP's sister needs some serious counseling. Sister has a lot of balls to 1) keep hounding OP to be her surrogate and 2) blame OP for her troubled marriage ending. OP was NOT a participant in that marriage and not to blame.

Lee Gilliland
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was supposedly infertile (ovarian cancer at 19, what fun. Had a tubal pregnancy that apparently cleared out the old babymaker. I was left with a quarter of an ovary and still got pregnant. My mom called me Myrtle the Fertile Turtle lol.

Bette
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Author is completely justified in protecting her OWN body. There is nothing to say she did not have infertility herself. Her sister has multiple issues; not the least of which is infertility. Her marital problems were only exacerbated by her haranguing of her sister to be her surrogate. The sister seemed unwilling or unable to realize that unless the author had already given birth, she is unable to act as a surrogate. No reputable physician would allow such a match - it is unethical and medically risky.

StarCrossedFriday
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would it even have been possible? I’ve been having trouble conceiving because of various health issues, and my sweet, sweet sister suggested several times that she could be our surrogate. Turns out they won’t even do that in hospitals over here unless the surrogate has already had children of their own, and preferably is done having her own, for some reason. I really hope OP checked before lying about being infertile, it could have saved them all a lot of drama…but even then I don’t blame her for it - the sister sounds like she would have pushed her into finding a way around those rules anyway.

Rider
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both are YTA. The sister for pushing and guilt tripping. OP for the lie, there are less harmful ways to hold personal boundaries.

Gozer LeGozerian
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nah, she can lie all she wants about her own body. No one's entitled to use her body for their own gain

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Natasha Clark
Community Member
4 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH.. the sister can't take no for an answer so she is definitely learning the hard way. As for OP, you're worse than your sister on every level. You could've given her an extra firm no in front of everyone instead of lying to say you're infertile too. There are countless women besides your sister who really cannot have a baby at all. Shame on you!!

Sarah Ellison
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think OP should have lied. I get that just saying no wasn't working, but it sounds like when she brought it up in front of the family (leading to OP lying), that was the first time she'd made the request publicly. At that point OP should have said "I've told you several times now, no. I will not be your surrogate, and everyone here is now a witness to what I have said. Sis has been harassing me to be her surrogate and won't take my no for an answer, so now I'm saying again - no. And let this be the last time you ask."

Sunny Day
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sis wanted a baby to "fix her marriage". We all know how well that works out.

Vinnie
Community Member
4 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sister and her husband couldn't agree on how to move forward. Sounds like the husband was open to other options and the sister was incapable of making the leap to a different surrogate or adoption. Probably thought of the OP as the closest thing to passing on genetic material.

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Monica G
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think being a surogate mother can be a very difficult emotional process.

Captain McSmoot
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It appears as thought OP's sister is a tad unhinged; *this* could very well be the reason her marriage ended. It's ironic that a woman with a uterus thinks she has the right to tell another woman with a uterus what to do with her body. It would appear telling a woman what to do with her body is not unique to men (usually labeled as old and white) as most would have you believe...

Tabitha
Community Member
4 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, but it mostly is, as those are the same old white—-and overwhelmingly rich and supposedly religious but actually hypocritical—-men who more easily land powerful enough jobs (basically have them handed to them on a silver plate by other members of the boys’ club) to dictate policy, even when they have zero understanding of basic concepts like menstruation and childbirth (even though many of them are married ffs), than women who are way smarter, more qualified, way more deserving, and actually possess the same anatomy as other women so completely understand, can ever get to.

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Insomniac
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that it's good that Sis did not get a surrogate and got divorced instead, because she would be a terrible mother. No sense of boundaries. Massive entitlement. No empathy. Hugely manipulative. At one time, my older sister had offered to surrogate for me. I *can* get pregnant, but my body likes to not stay pregnant, and there is major worry about what it would do to my mental health. But after her third child, her health deteriorated, and she said "I'm sorry, but I can't do it again." And I accepted that, because it's HER FREAKING BODY not mine. And I can be content being Auntie rather than Mummy.

Schmebulock
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell her you thought you were infertile, but after a lengthy discussion with your doctor you discovered you were just doing it wrong by engaging in butt stuff.

V
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone who has struggled with fertility myself, I find people who make their infertility other people's problems horrible. Of course you can be sad, grieve if you need to, but if it gets to the point that you want to drag others into it or can't be happy for other people having kids, or think you have the right to say what a woman can do with her uterus you need to see a therapist.

Libstak
Community Member
4 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sister is dangerously unhinged. Unfortunately, if at all possible you need to go no contact and even take steps to protect yourself. This isn't over, she is obsessively convinced all her issues now are your fault and they are huge issues she has created in her mind.

Kaeda
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I once told my toxic mother (that kept pestering me to have a child even though I was 19yo, in college, and not married) that I got my tubes tied. She stopped talking for me for eight years. I have no regrets. I wasn't ready for kids. Now, fifteen years later, my husband and I are happy, financially stable, and have two sweet kids (7yo and 3yo).

Janelle Collard
Community Member
Premium
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or OP could tell sis: "I lied to get you to shut TF up about my being your unpaid surrogate." If OP wants to nuke her relationship with sis, she could tell her: "I didn't want to be your surrogate cuz you'd be a s**tty mother."

Hphizzle
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1: As mentioned, surrogacy isn’t/shouldn’t done on women who haven’t birth a child yet. 2: I would bet money on the fact that not agreeing on fertility issues was only the tip of the iceberg for what brought this marriage down. Go no/low contact until sister works through her issues in therapy.

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one has a right to your body, so sister is AH. Also, many many women are yold they are infertile and then conceive. I am close with three families who were told they couldn't have bio kids, adopted and within a year had a bio child, so that their oldest two are very close in age. While I think some of this is a scam due to the cost of fertility treatment, fertility/ability to carry to term is a spectrum for most. Obviously some conditions preclude pregnancy, but for most, it's just a probability that's low, not zero. Glad the sister isn't adopt, she is a nightmare of a person, would have been controlling and guilt trippy as a mother.

Gwyn
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I guess this is an unpopular opinion but I think she should have stood her ground and not lied. Lies like that are just artificially enforcing a boundary that needs a real foundation behind it. Obviously when the lie was found out that boundary fell again and opened her up to more criticism. NTA for not wanting to be a surrogate but next time stand by your principles instead of lying about it.

Inglourioustmnt
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ridiculous. No one has a right to demand that. I so t want kids yet, good so have one for me. Gtfo. As a husband id never be ok with my wife having someone elses baby. That would be divorce worthy.

Orysha
Community Member
4 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ana is manipulative b.itch. Good thing she's infertile Let's hope she won't adopt.

carol bland
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At what point do you stop 'politely' refusing their ridiculous request, and simply tell them to f*ck off!?

tori Ohno
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She didn't do anything wrong. Lying was the only way to shut her up.

RAM31280
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While lying to your sister who refused to take no for an answer was a d**k move, you are still NTA. If sis's marriage couldn't handle other child options, odds are they wouldn't have stayed together even with their own biological child. On a side note, I will never understand how people can be so adamant to have biological kids when one/both have fertility issues, there are so many kids in this world that need loving homes and it seems like adoption is not an option for some people.

Melissa Harris
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OPs sister is mentally unwell and is likely not currently fit to raise a child. The OP didn't cause her sister's infertility or end her marriage and is not obligated to be her sister's surrogate. The extended family should get sister mental health help.

Ashlie Benson
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd go ESH. She's TA for saying she was infertile when she wasn't. I hate when people say that as a way to be a scapegoat. Because if they really aren't, then later when they do have a baby people that really are just get told we must not be trying hard enough or some such nonsense. 'No' is a complete sentence.

Gozer LeGozerian
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not really the AH. No one's entitled to know about her fertility status but herself and her partner. Being abused by your own sister because she wants to use you as a brood mare is a perfectly justifiable excuse to lie.

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CBolt
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3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA Why did Anna insist that OP was her only hope? Your surrogate doesn't have to be a relative - there are others who will do this very generous thing for total strangers. Why, when OP lied & said she was infertile (which apparently was the only way to shut Anna down) did Anna get angry? Why did Anna not know a surrogate has to have already had a live birth? It sounds as if Anna was completely obsessed & consumed with the idea that she must have a child -nothing else matters. That in itself can ruin a marriage. OP isn't to blame.

P.L. Packer
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP's sister needs some serious counseling. Sister has a lot of balls to 1) keep hounding OP to be her surrogate and 2) blame OP for her troubled marriage ending. OP was NOT a participant in that marriage and not to blame.

Lee Gilliland
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was supposedly infertile (ovarian cancer at 19, what fun. Had a tubal pregnancy that apparently cleared out the old babymaker. I was left with a quarter of an ovary and still got pregnant. My mom called me Myrtle the Fertile Turtle lol.

Bette
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Author is completely justified in protecting her OWN body. There is nothing to say she did not have infertility herself. Her sister has multiple issues; not the least of which is infertility. Her marital problems were only exacerbated by her haranguing of her sister to be her surrogate. The sister seemed unwilling or unable to realize that unless the author had already given birth, she is unable to act as a surrogate. No reputable physician would allow such a match - it is unethical and medically risky.

StarCrossedFriday
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would it even have been possible? I’ve been having trouble conceiving because of various health issues, and my sweet, sweet sister suggested several times that she could be our surrogate. Turns out they won’t even do that in hospitals over here unless the surrogate has already had children of their own, and preferably is done having her own, for some reason. I really hope OP checked before lying about being infertile, it could have saved them all a lot of drama…but even then I don’t blame her for it - the sister sounds like she would have pushed her into finding a way around those rules anyway.

Rider
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both are YTA. The sister for pushing and guilt tripping. OP for the lie, there are less harmful ways to hold personal boundaries.

Gozer LeGozerian
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nah, she can lie all she wants about her own body. No one's entitled to use her body for their own gain

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Natasha Clark
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4 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH.. the sister can't take no for an answer so she is definitely learning the hard way. As for OP, you're worse than your sister on every level. You could've given her an extra firm no in front of everyone instead of lying to say you're infertile too. There are countless women besides your sister who really cannot have a baby at all. Shame on you!!

Sarah Ellison
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think OP should have lied. I get that just saying no wasn't working, but it sounds like when she brought it up in front of the family (leading to OP lying), that was the first time she'd made the request publicly. At that point OP should have said "I've told you several times now, no. I will not be your surrogate, and everyone here is now a witness to what I have said. Sis has been harassing me to be her surrogate and won't take my no for an answer, so now I'm saying again - no. And let this be the last time you ask."

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