There are people who have been dreaming about creating a family ever since they were kids and that's basically the main goal of their life. And while some of those folks want to have a large family with multiple kids, some think that 1 or 2 is more than enough. However, there are also those who want to live child-free lives. They don’t like kids, don’t really see joy in creating a family and that’s not how they aspire to live. And despite various opinions out there about childless people, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. According to statistics, 1 in 5 people don’t want to have children.
Speaking about that, I think many people would agree that it's far better to not have kids than to have them and be unhappy with the decision. Besides, it would probably do no good not just for the parents but for their children as well. On that note, a person on Reddit asked netizens to share signs that show that a person should not become a parent. Here's a list of 42 of these red flags that folks believe indicate unsuitable parents.
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If you’re thinking of having kids so they can be your retirement plan then please. Don’t.
I've never heard anyone say "I had kids because I thought I'd be a good parent".
But I did think this before I had my son, it’s not something I’d ever say out loud though. Now as a parent I question everything and have no idea if I’m really a good parent. I think I try my best and I love him so deeply I can’t put it into words.
Load More Replies...I agree, don't do this. Too much pressure on the kids, and they may not help when the time comes. We all know families where one kid does it all, the sibs don't pitch in. Heck, I'm living that now, and it's not fun. Yes, I'm the one taking care of mom. I love her, but it would be nice to have some help.
Much better to save the money you would've used raising a child as a retirement plan.
I mention that I didn't want to have kids during a casual conversation at work and this woman butted in, "then who is going to take care of you later in life?!?!" I stared at her with my mouth wide open. I get a lot of "children bring you joy" and stuff when I tell people I don't want to have kids, but no one had ever given me such a selfish reason to procreate before that conversation. I occasionally pray for that woman's 13 year old daughter.
This was only a good plan in the 1800s and before that. Because people lived on farms and parents were dependent on kids to help with the farm work and to take over the farm when they (the parents) couldn't work on the farm anymore. So.... if you want kids as a retirement plan I'd say you are living in the wrong time in history. You are off by several centuries.
In some cultures it’s a completely acceptable reason to have children, not only that it’s expected of their offspring. Often times parents will carve out a career path for each child (doctor or lawyer are usually top of the list). It is mostly common in eastern cultures. Not saying it’s a good idea but it is a common practice in some countries.
Well, in some third world countries it‘s exactly the very reason to have children, the more, the better. Doesn’t mean these children aren‘t beeing loved by their parents.
Not wanting kids.
Yupp. The best, indeed the only, reason for not wanting kids. It doesn't, or shouldn't, need any explanation.
Best reason? Maybe. Only reason? Definitely not.
Load More Replies...Please upvote this. People need to be more accepting of people who don't desire to have kids. It should be accepted without judgement or unnecessary comments.
I knew my mom didn’t really want kids but felt obligated to have them because of the time she grew up, So I was the oldest and the one expected to help my mom with the three other kids she had. So my teen years were all about taking care of my siblings, changing diapers, feeding, cleaning up, doing laundry, watching them when we went grocery shopping, etc. So that taught me that I never wanted the responsibility of children, as I felt I had already raised them. My father was one of those semi absent fathers who rarely helped and didn’t consider it his responsibility. Ironically I have no contact with two of my siblings because I have no relationship with my father who was emotionally abusive and apparently they are siding with him. They have no memory of me taking care of them and it reinforces my decision to not have children. I do have a step daughter and she’s great. She never lived with us but we have a good relationship with her.
Most of us who don't want kids don't have kids...perfectly sane and logical.
Surprisingly a lot of people have kids despite wanting them bc they think they should/get pressured into having them
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If you care too much about getting one gender of child and not having the same desire for the other. Parental love needs to be unconditional
I think secretly most women have a favorite gender, but when they actually get the opposite gender they love them just the same
I don't even have a favourite child they all p!ss me off in equal measures.
Load More Replies...My partner and I have one girl and almost two boys (pregnant with the second currently) the amount of times we hear "you're SO lucky you have both" is actually insane, no we're lucky that they're happy most the time and healthy, that they're best friends and protect each other.
Because I already had a son,when I became pregnant, most people assumed that I wanted a girl. I just wanted a healthy baby. A girl would have been different, but I honestly didn't mind. After I had my 2nd son,I was even asked if I was disappointed. Far from it! Fast forward 20 years. I have 2 adult sons and a 3 year old beautiful girl. She was the best shock I have ever had,changed my existence for the better. And she has 2 full grown big brothers
It's called gender disappointment and it's sadly very common
I think (for those in america) they want one gender over another not outta favoritism but for the childs saftey...atm women are losing their rights and i think parents are afraid to bring a girl into a world where if they are r*ped and impregnated they will be foreced to have that child. Hell id be terrofied to have a young girl in a world where shes treated as less than a rapists in some states
You think spanking children is cool because your parents did it to you and you "turned out fine".
Why is this downvoted? People agrees that hitting your kid is okay because they 'turned out fine" ?
In the US, there is a certain demographic that still believes in corporal punishment and heavily resents anything that challenges that belief. Statements like this and “parental rights” tend to their defending arguments.
Load More Replies...I was spanked as a child and I can say unequivocally that I did not turn out fine.
I was spanked nce. Yes, my mom did not know what to do with me--she'd tried everything else, but it did not solve the problem--it just made me rage with anger.
Load More Replies...When I was in elementary school (in the mid-80's), my parents did not sign the consent form that would have let the school spank me with a wooden paddle when I got in trouble. Frankly, I'm amazed at my parents restraint, because I had a lot of behavioral issues stemming from ADHD and I was constantly getting in trouble. The only time my dad put a hand on me was when he pushed me up against a wall by the throat (he wasn't choking me, just restraining me) after I threw a pair of scissors at my mom and they stuck in the door like a throwing knife about a foot from her head.
In my country the children are not just spanked, they are hit with absolutely anything that is within reach: stick, spoon, belt, steel plate, chopping board, etc. And this is very normal for most parents as they think that the child deserves this for disobeying them.
I remember being spanked (which seems like a more gentle word than “hit” or “struck”) and slapped, as well as having a green wood switch whipped across the back of my legs which left red welts.That was painful.
There are times, and children, where "gentle parenting" just doesn't work! Times, and children, that "time-outs", grounding, and other forms of discipline just don't do the job! One of my parents best discipline philosophies came from the John Wayne movie McLintock, "When raising your voice doesn't do anything, it's time to raise your hand," and I think a lot of kids would benefit from more parents adopting this philosophy.
The kids I know who get spanked are generally more well behaved than the ones that don't. The worst kids I know never get spanked. Thats all i need to know. Oh and I got spanked and turned out just fine.
If you have mental health issues and can barely keep yourself happy let alone raise a human being. I quit booze five years ago.
I’m a 38 year old male and have just started to get my life together and find some semblance of happiness. We’ve both been in therapy now and are making leaps and bounds.
We had both had very tough childhoods being indigenous and all.
I highly doubt my parents held us in their arms and thought ‘I can’t wait to abuse and neglect you’. I don’t think that’s how these things happen but it did. None the less, for the sake of my own sanity and that of my spouses (who also is on her mental health journey and 15 years into our relationship), it is the most loving thing we could’ve done for ourselves and that of our would be children.
As someone with mental health issues, I can tell you that it is a struggle. I suffered a few forms of abuse as a child, and as a result I have some issues. I am not abusive by far, but my ADHD and PTSD sometimes make me anxious and difficult to understand. If you have issues you need help BEFORE you have kids. I didn't get help until AFTER. My kids love me very much and think I am a good mom, but I could have been a GREAT mom if I had sought therapy long ago.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I’m second generation, so while I know I was loved, I also got heavy pressure about understanding how much the previous generations had done to get me where I am. There was this expectation that I be perfect and brilliant and that I do everything for the family and for god. I went to college out of state and finally had some breathing room to figure out me. There was so much gravity with my parents. Everything was a big deal and my desires didn’t seem to matter at all. Both me and my partner have been in and out of therapy for various demons. At 39 I think I am finally starting to get the hang of this life thing. Similar to you, we don’t want to pass on any of our baggage to another soul. Power to you, brother. It sounds like you’re on a good path. For whatever it’s worth from a stranger, I’m proud of you.
A coworker made this same decision. He and his family has a history of serve mental health and his wife and family both both mental and physical health issues. So they decided not to have kids.
I don't think this is always the case. I have PTSD I'm a mom of a verry happy and healthy boy of three. I have a stable husband. We chose to have only one child because of my PTSD. When I have bad days I'll put all the energy I have left and more in to carring for our son. I'm in therapy and I have help keeping my house clean for him. I don't think a perfect parent exists. But my husband and I are working our buts off to give him the best life we can. And when I look at him. I know we are doing something right. He is so happy and loved. Yes sometimes it's a struggle but I don't regret ever having him. I wanted to build my own family since I was 16 years old. I wanted to build the save happy home I never had as a child. My dreams came true and I'll die before my mental problems get in the way of my parenting (figurative ofcourse). I think it all depends on Witch illness and witch mindset you have if it comes to being ready for kids.
Don’t have kids if you’re a man and you think your wife will do all of the work. It’s not possible. You have to parent too. She will resent you. It doesn’t work like that.
My father thought because I was the oldest girl that I was their babysitter and servant,
If you treat animals poorly / abuse animals. People often treat animals similarly to how they treat children.
Okay, but I'm only buying 5 kinds of Fancy Feast so I hope they're all happy with that.
Only five kinds!? You monster! You should be buying each Kitteh their favorite kind and changing what you buy based on their constantly shifting moods, and NEVER buy a large quantity of any one flavor, cuz that's a guarantee that your Kittehs will no longer touch that flavor. (In case you can't tell, that's sarcasm, except for the very last about them no longer eating that flavor. To be real, Kittehs tend to like variety in their diet, and exclusively wet food can lead to some Kittehs having intestinal problems. Your best bet is to give them wet food once, at most twice, a day and keep kibbles available for them the rest of the day, and make absosmurfly sure they have plenty of water.)
Load More Replies...Not entirely true. I'm entirely apathetic towards animals. Don't want to pet one. Not getting out of my car to chase one down. Could care less about your stories. And yet, I love my daughter more than anything else in the world.
I'm almost the exact opposite; I'll turn myself inside out to help animals but cringe when I hear a child near me. Guess it's good you have your amazing kid and I have my amazing dog huh xD (for clarity, I am in no way hating on OP, more agreeing that it's not entirely true that how people treat animals is how they treat kids)
Load More Replies...I treated my cats like my babies and now it's the kid's turn hehe
I wonder how true this is? I know this is just someones opinion but I would be genuinely interested if anykind of study has been done on this, that supports or disproves it.
It has been studied for decades and the correlations between animal abuse and the abuse of children and adults are well documented. It starts at a very young age, frighteningly young, and escalates with age. Many serial, spree and mass killers start with the worst kinds of animal abuse then move on to people because animal abuse is not giving them a buzz anymore.
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You view your child as a mould in which you can shape, alter, and control, pinning all of your failed aspirations and ambitions on them and forcing them to be something they are not.
Rather than acknowledging your role as a guide, motivator, and a pillar of support to help them discover and forge their own identity and loving them even more because of it.
Only an actual parent could write this, and it's referring to other actual parents. Nobody goes into parenthood thinking that they will be like this, even if they turn out to be so.
No one goes into parenthood thinking they'll be like this, but Honey Boo Boo exists, so it's unlikely only parents would say this.
Load More Replies...My mom was like that with me. Not the concert pianistor opera star she so desperatelywanted to be. I was an only child so I had to learn piano and take singing lessons. Was never really good at it. Decades later I still have the beautiful piano my grandparents bought me decades ago, sitting in my lounge xnd never touched. Mom gone almost 14 years now, so I guess it's time to finally get rid of it. Couldn't do it while my parents were alive, would've caused such drama.
I love my parents but, my mom has very high expectations for me, it's been forced me my whole life to do more than I should so I can "use my intelligence", I will agree that I'm smart and I don't mean in a "self praise" way it's true, but I really don't want all these things she wants for me, I'm still gonna do it though because it's best for me, the physical need to fidget with something in any situation is pissing my teachers off and annoying my mom and the fact that I lose focus every 5 minutes is not helping with things
if you do it in the hopes of "saving" or "advancing" your relationship, or if you wish to "compensate" for perceived lack of personal achievements
I hate it when women will get pregnant to hold on to a man. Like, have some self-respect and respect others. That's a human child, not a toy.
My brother is in the "lack of personal achievement" dept. He refuses to be an actual dad while wanting to wear that "I'm a dad" badge. Any minor stress and he's sucking down vodka like a fish. Then wonders why he doesn't have custody, his ex-wife has an RO against him and personally has a DUI. But then still continues to drink and brag about being a dad. He's got that victim mentality, to boot. "She took my kid. I'm a great dad. My own father won't pay my bills so if I'm homeless, it's my dad's fault." Honey, you're 33 years old. Get a stable job, stop hitting on high schoolers and quit drinking. And yes: this is after his court-ordered rehab as well. You're not a dad. You're a donor and disgusting. No fam member will have anything do to with him, including me.
Yeah. I am sure there are a lot of people here on Bored Panda, who hate Dr. Phil, and I get that.....I don't have a lot of respect for him either. When he tells parents that children shouldn't be brought into the world with a "job" though, he is utterly correct.
If you demand your child to be like you and share the same beliefs/opinions as you.
It is the parents job to direct and mold them into well functioning adults who ,can work, fit into your society, and someday make their way-- beliefs are foundation.
Wow. I hadn’t realized that this was a thing my parents were forcing on me. But I now understand that they forced religion, politics, gender, and sexuality on me. Dang.
As someone who grew up in a HUGE catholic family, I was fully indoctrinated into the religion without second thought by my parents... that being the case, I assumed that that was the standard for most kids in the US born into religious families... is that not the case? Did yall have actual cool parents that let you decide on your own???
If you obsess over having a cute baby without actually having any experience taking care of babies/kids. The cuteness does NOT fully compensate for the energy, time, patience, and UNCONDITIONAL love needed to properly raise a child.
People see babies as objects or status, and then get frustrated when they actually have to parent. This typically leads to some sort of abuse because the parents are emotionally immature and don’t realize that kids need so much guidance. You’re literally developing a brain from scratch… parenting is not what a lot of people think.
My fathers first marriage gave him a boy. After the divorce he signed away his rights so did the mother. Child had a great life with new family. Second wife first child was a girl. That's all dad wanted was that girl so his mother and aunt could spoil her. They did. When my brother was born a year later dad wanted to send him off to boarding school as soon as he could. Then a few years later I was born. His mother and aunt had a new baby girl to spoil. I hated pink and girlie things. My sister hated me. I became the horrible little sister. Don't have kids to fulfill anyone's expectations. Never tell them how or why they were born.
An aunt of mine, who is now a grandmother to four, puts it very well. It's easy to become a mother or a father. Far harder to actually be a parent to one's children.
It's when people forget that children are their own little selfs. They have their own personalities with likes and dislikes that maybe different from their parents. Children for the most part are not mini-mes even if there are some similarities in tastes or personalities.
Isn't this true of most parents though? I'm sure the actual reality of having your own children is going to be different to how you imagined it.
Yeah, that first sentence is an impossible standard.
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if you are homo-/transphobic or have other very bigoted and narrow-minded views. your kid might come out as gay/trans, and you should be the one to support them and protect them from haters, not be one of them. if you can't love your kid, no matter what, you should not have kids.
There are way too many stories out there of parents abusing or kicking out their own children just because they are LGBT. I get “sincerely held beliefs”, etc. but I cannot fathom how anyone could treat their own child that way.
To have a child and then resent their existence. I can't wrap my head around it. Like if God lamented his own creations.
Load More Replies...thank you. I want to see more parents who just love their kid because it's their kid. conditional love it not what a kid needs. Kids should not have to live in fear of their parents reaction to coming out. Coming from someone who has parents like this, please don't do the same to yours. (if you decide to have any)
A few years ago when Australia had the vote to make gay marriage legal, I knew a lady who said she would vote no, and when asked ‘what if your son is gay and now he can’t marry the love of his life because of you?’ But she just couldn’t fathom the possibility that her son wouldn’t be straight. I grew up with that kid and can tell you he was a little fruity (I’m also queer)
You forgot to expand your comment with the opposite as well. Hopefully if you are a trans/homosexual etc you will not go out of your way to push your kid to become one if they turn out to be straight. Because if you cannot love your kid , no matter what, you should not have one.
Why would you think a member of the LGBT+ community would try to force their child to be LGBT+ like them? If it EVER happens it would be a fraction of the percentage of the other way around. I agree with your last sentence. That’s basically it.
Load More Replies...Thank you for saying this. Here’s me promising that I won’t do either of these things to my future children if I have any.
I feel bad for every person, not at ALL just kids because older people coming out may have it bad as well, but thankfully my mom is very accepting of me, my dad is the opposite. He's insistent that I should marry a guy and I have no interest in men.
If you can't look after yourself first
I think many parents, especially mums, don't have the social net that's needed to raise a child anymore- and thus no time to look after themselves first
I think they're meaning more if you can't take care of yourself before having a kid you shouldn't bring a kid into the picture.
Load More Replies...Yeah, I'm confused by this one as well. If you primarily care about yourself first then you definitely should not be having kids. Unless this means something other than how I'm reading it then just remain childless. Thinking it through while writing this, maybe it's saying if your life is a mess before having kids then don't bring children into that mess, which I would agree with.
Load More Replies...Yes!!!! If you can't take care of yourself how are going to take care of a kid? Kids shouldn't be brought into the picture if you and/or your relationship isn't stable. Get your life together and get stable (relationship is on the same page, bills are being paid, job security or savings, etc). This along with simply not wanting kids, and having a kid to fix/save/better you are the top 3 reasons not to have kids. I know you can't always control events and accidents happen and that's why abortion should be available and you should buy sex toys and only sleep with respectable individuals. Don't let your lust lead you.
If you're doing it just because everyone else is
Pretty sure this would apply to the vast majority of parents globally. Cultural and family values not allowing for the possibility of not having children, so at no point is the question "Do I want children?" ever asked.
I don't think the majority of people would decide they didn't want kids if asked. There's absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting kids, and I know plenty of people who do not and have never wanted them, but since we are animals who have a biological need to reproduce, the majority of people DO want kids if the circumstances are right.
Load More Replies...We are sure we don't want kids of our own. We really like them for about an hour. And have enough children in the family. But how often people say:you don't know what you niss / oh wait until you get older. I simply don't understand why we have to defend our choice.
There was someone at my mother's former workplace who was like that. If her friends bought a fancy car, she bought a fancy car. Fancy purses, etc? She was right behind them whether she could afford it or not. So when they started getting pregnant and sneaking off to have their babies in the US, guess what she had to do? 🙄
I'm short tempered
If you want to use them for content on your social media account.
Better use that money to have some great trips you can use as 'content'
Does anyone actually do that though? Sure some people over share but I doubt it's their main reason for having kids.
Perhaps not specifically for social media, but there definitely are people who seem to have them purely as an accessory and not because they really want children.
Load More Replies...That is a extremely time consuming way of getting content... and darn expensive.
1. You hate humans
2. You can barely take care of a house plant.
3. You are broke AF
I hate a lot of humans and plants and me don't get along, but I love my chick like nothing else on this world. Ok, I'm not broke though,that being the deciding factor
My mom can't even keep a plastic plant alive. Literally. I have turned out fine so far.
Load More Replies...Broke is a big one. I have a ton of family and friends who insist on having more kids even though they can’t even get by without help from family as it is. A good guide is if you have to check your account before buying groceries, or if you live paycheck to paycheck you’re not ready. Trust me even if you’re not intending to spoil them, kids are expensive. If you want to give them the things you couldn’t have when you were a kid, you have to be able to afford those thing first. Don’t assume you will be more successful later on. Kids are more likely to delay your career success. You will be tired and can’t work those long hours if you want to be a good parent. Get stable first, then kids. And, for the love of god if you’re barely making it with one, stop there. Keep in mind they get more expensive later. Sports, cloths, hobbies, maybe helping them with their first house or car, college, it’s a lot.
I kinda like that this is twice, for once! You promised me 100! I got 92.
I don't hate humans per se, but socialising needs to be in moderation. I am rally bad with plants. Kids? I absolutely adore my kids, never spent a night away from them since having them.
Not being able to handle money properly is huge in having a child. Any rabbit can pop out kids but it takes a mature adult to have a child and be able to afford that child for over 18 years of its life. Plus, the possibility of having to care for grandchildren as well.
Over 8 billion people on the planet. Only 15% of the world population live in 1st world countries. Do the math and give your head a shake. 85% of the world population are broke AF by your standards. Good luck telling India and South America and and and that they shouldn't have sex because they can't afford a condom let alone a child. 🙄🤦♀️
You can hate humans and still procreate. Some of them are the best parents because they actively try to raise the best future citizens.
If you can't feed the baby then don't have a baby
If only birthing people weren't forced to carry a fetus they can't raise in America: (
I assume this is implying that poor people shouldn't have kids. While I understand the sentiment, it isn't that simple. You could have a great job and a house and lose it all tomorrow for one reason or another. Also consider all of the areas that people of lower socio-economic status don't have access to, you are also telling them they can't have kids? How poor is too poor? How many is too many? Who gets to decide?
I say this so often. Ex-husband had a good job, we had our own home, made a conscious decision to have baby 2. By the time she arrived he had been made redundant and we were about to have our house repossessed. 9 months isn't long in the grand scheme of things but it's long enough for things to change drasty
Load More Replies...Easier said than done. Some women have no access to birth control. People lose jobs, spouses, and women's access to health care, birth control and education about birth control is being not just eroded but removed in many states in the US--and these laws affect economically disadvantaged women more than any other group.
Are you referring to breastfeeding or just general food? Some can't breastfeed, so use formula. Different if you won't give give baby any sustenance that it should have to help it grow and develop.
I assume they are saying poor people shouldn't have kids.
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You had a traumatic childhood and haven’t put in much work healing from it. You’ll transfer a lot of harm unintentionally to your kids, and likely choose poor partners, as you’re attracted to people who mimic your trauma inducing parental figures.
Not necessarily true. I have a loving husband we are 10 years together 5 years married. I'm working on the trauma and before we had our son I did a lot and I mean A LOT of research on being a good parent because I want to raise him at the best of my abilities. And he is a happy and healthy boy 🥰
How do you mean? Everything you wrote seems to indicate that you've "put in much work healing from it" like the post says, so unless you think you're going to Still be a bad parent then you're agreeing with the points that have been raised.
Load More Replies...I wanted to have kids since I was a kid. It was my dream to have my own little family with kids, but I had such a traumatic upbringing that I know that if I were to have a child now, I wouldn’t be able to care for it and possibly even continue that vicious cycle of generational trauma. Now I’m pretty okay with the thought of just not having kids all together
This! Both my parents had parents totally devoid of giving love and affection and I grew up being referred to as "the dramatic one" because I wanted affection and was openly emotional. My mom's mother was mentally ill and I've considered writing a story about the treatment she went through growing up. Why she agreed to have kids with my dad still eludes me to this day, because I know she only wanted one, maybe 2 at most. Unfortunately, she had 4 and had to get her masters and PHd later in life. She was an amazing woman who accomplished a lot even later in life.
Sorry, what doesn't kill you....makes you stronger. It is in fact the lack of hardship in our current family climate that is making life harder on our children. Even gen x doesn't really know what hardship is.
Because you're a narcissist and just want a copy of yourself
Had this guy tell me on a first date he wanted children with me. Now, as a woman you probably should feel flattered. Well, good thing I asked him „why?“. He 100% meant what he said then: „because my genes Are too good Not to pass on.“ Such a prick! Glad I didn‘t waste time on a second date with him. (Though I‘ve got to admit he was very good looking and a very talented person, but a narcissist is an absolute no-go)
Selfish. The most honest thing I ever heard was a family friend tell me "I realised once I had him I could never have more. I'm to selfish, I want things too and I dont want to spread my time and money further. I love him and would do anything for him now but I'd never do it again" it's OK to be selfish in that way but better to realise it before a few kids.
Edit : there is more one type of selfish. There is many many types of selfish on both sides (kids vs no kids) this comment is about the specific type of selfish shown above. A selfish that Is perfectly ok to feel
I think the word we are looking for here is “self-aware.” This person is self aware enough to know they like having one child and also want to accomplish other things and are aware that having more kids would prevent that. More humans would benefit from basic self awareness like this, in my opinion.
I have a two year old, and had never really wanted kids after helping raise my younger siblings, nieces, and nephews, but once my wife got pregnant I was and still am so happy to be a dad. That being said, we both know we don't want more because we want to be able to have our own free time and money instead of being spread thin.
This example is terrible. That isn't being selfish. That would be having the child anyway. This is knowing your limits.
There's nothing wrong with being selfish as long as you're not taking on responsibilities and having people rely on you, in which you have no intention to commit to. No one can fault you for not undertaking responsibilities you don't want.
Egotistical would be lacking the self-awareness to know your limits. This example is literal opposite of selfishness. The conclusion requires considering the well-being of at least two people other than yourself to make.
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If you’re not a fan of being peed on… If you like silence more than 2 minutes per day… If you like spending your own money on things you want/need… If you don’t enjoy being a human jungle gym… If you’re sensitive to people liking what you cook… If you don’t want to get good sleep anymore…and it continues as you stay awake waiting for your teen to get home safe
This one made me laugh!!! My son's father has no other children, and he is younger than me by a few years. Last night somehow our son pooped on his bed. As OCD as he is I figured he would be mad. Nah, he was super patient. Same thing when the baby screams. I am sort of proud of him lol.
If you ever want to go to the bathroom alone in the next 5-10 years.
The world is on fire and we can't afford to live
The problem is that who don't realise this is more willing to make they're children orrible people for the health of our planet just like them, yes some kids may turn good unlike parents, but if all the "good caring people" stops having children and educating them to the good things of life (and supporting them through the bad) then it would remain only bad parenting with angry traumatized child who doesn't care about the world we live on but just fulfilling their traumatic needs, isn't that worse? (Asking for a friend :p)
The real problem is people stop listening when someone else brings out hyperbole like this. It's never productive to say.
Load More Replies...Stop belly aching and start being self sufficient, self reliant and independent. Can't afford food? Start growing your own. Can't afford housing? Build your own. Why are you into this trap of depending on society for your survival? Don't like something? Ok. SO DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT.
1. Food takes TIME to grow months even. Its just just ready to eat. Nor can anyone survive on veggies/fruits alone 2. Not everyone can build a house that is up to code. N YES it MUST be to code. There are laws to prevent anyone from just building a house 3. One person making a change doesnt change the world for all. 1 person driving horse n buggy doesn't magically magic air quality better thats not how that worka
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This is the biggest right here. I wasn’t sure I wanted kids and neither was my wife. We have a particularly difficult kid ( great kid and I love him) and it shames me a bit to say it but it took me awhile to get my head right as a father. I’m was too selfish of my time and comfort. I’m also extremely introverted and like alone time and quite. I can’t say I wish I wouldn’t have had him because I love him to death, but it’s a constant effort to be a good dad. I have to remind myself that he needs love, attention, encouragement and isn’t an adult. I wouldn’t change having him but I can admit I wasn’t ready to be a father and probably wasn’t meant to have kids. Now it’s about remembering that isn’t his fault and doing the best I can.
You are not yet stable enough in your life and finances to properly raise a child.
I was only 18 when I got pregnant. I had never been around babies before and had never even held one. I had low paying jobs but was living by myself and got by. Once I held my son, I was instantly besotted and we spent every moment together doing things which cost no money. We played at the park, went on picnics and had make believe adventures. He is now 49 and I am still besotted with him. He turned out amazing.
But sometimes when you get pregnant (or your woman gets pregnant) the parental instinct kicks in and you get a better paying job. Even if it means you spend weeks away from your family. Sometimes its for the best. My husband and I made roughly $15 an hour before getting pregnant, once we were told baby is on the way, I quit work and he got a better job doing bridge construction. It sucked he was away every week, but boy it made a great difference in our finances.
Even with all the best laid plans, life happens (never, EVER, call a child an "accident" or a "mistake", ESPECIALLY in anger or as a joke; that's the easiest and fastest way to scar a child for life). You might not plan on having kids until you're financially prepared, or whatever reason, but a single lapse in birth control, or one broken condom, can mean that you now have an extra facet to account for. Remember, People! The only PROVEN 100% effective contraceptive is abstinence.
Not in a normal country where "day after" pills and abortion exist. I was an accident (yes, an accident, I was not planned so it was an accident) and my mother think that it was the best think that happened to her. That is nice for her but it wasn't so great for me. She was not prepared financially and mentally and I paid for it. Sometimes pregnancy is and accident and it's better to admit it before new life is bring to this word.
Load More Replies...I do not care to change my standard of living. I want to continue traveling overseas without impediment
My MIL asked me one day why I didn't have children (with her son,who has a daughter from a prior marriage.) I didn't feel that I should even have to answer this question, as not everyone wants kids. Plus I have never heard anyone ask someone "so why did you choose to HAVE children?"
Why are you downvoted? Did your MIL found your comment or smth?lol 😂
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You're not mature enough to shoulder the responsibilities that parenting entails, you're still thinking of yourself first and aren't willing to put someone else in that position, and if you think the child's income is your retirement plan lol
Wait until the person that wrote this learns how programs like Social Security work.
Load More Replies...You don’t like children. Or people for that matter.
I like children, I hate brats. More people have brats then have children. Worse is that most parents who have brats are foolish brat parents themselves.
You're not in your late 20s yet. I wouldn't recommend becoming a parent your whole adult life.
My former sister-in-law is 34. She has six children, the oldest is 16, the youngest is 8. I love my nieces and nephews to pieces but just, no.
She became pregnant with 15 or barely 16? That's a tough one
Load More Replies...if you have a genetic or hereditary disease that has no cures or chronic and very tiresome, like cancers, diabetes, Huntington's disease, etc... till genetic modification becomes an everyday routine. you will probably be bringing another sick person to suffer into this world.
My husband has neurofibromatosis which has a 50% chance of being passed on. I have mental health issues that were inherited. To knowingly do that to an innocent child is abusive. We both took steps to prevent pregnancy. It was a hard decision, it hurt like hell to have to make it, but I'm glad we did.
I am so sorry you’ve had to make that hard decision.
Load More Replies...Preimplantation diagnostic is a very viable option in cases where there is a known genetic cause for a disease. You can test the embryo for it when you do IVF, when it's still a clump of cells in a petri dish
Cancer is not an inheritable disease. Some genetic markers are more or less associated with certain specific types of cancer but many other factors are much more significant. Diabetes? Well, type 1 is genetically-linked for sure, but it's not guaranteed to develop in everyone. Type 2 is not hereditary.
cancer isnt inheritable however if a family has history of cancer it means the child will have an increased chance of getting it. its the same concept as epilepsy. if one parent has it the child will have an increased chance of having. its basically like having a gene thats weak to cancer so chances r higher. both my grandpas, my mom, my dad and my sister all had cancer. it honestly makes me happy i was adopted. no one in my biological family has ever had cancer. if we go detailed tho in my adoptive family a bunch of uncles aunts and cousins all had cancer at one point or died from it. mainly my dads side. my moms side it was just her and my grandpa. my sister is from my dads first marriage but still. its y doctors ask about medical history they want to kno about inheritable diseases and if ur at an increased risk of other diseases. ive already been told if i have kids they will have a higher chance of having epilepsy but theres a chance they wont. if my kid does have epilepsy then its fine ive lived a normal healthy life with it. i did sports, went to camp, went to college, dated and eventually got married. i dont work due to my anxeity disorder and arthritis but before that i did have jobs and my epilepsy never got in the way. only issue would b if they get it worse then i do. thats the down side bc its an increased chance and not hereditary it can b a different type of epilepsy. same with cancer my grandpa had lukemia my mom had stomach cancer. my dad had kidney cancer his dad had lung cancer.
Load More Replies...Also, if you have a genetic trait that will become a disease or chronic condition in your offspring if the other parent is also a carrier, at least get your partner tested before deciding to have unprotected sex.
Or if you have a disability that makes taking care of children a bit fraught. I have a minor form of CP that affects my balance. I trip easily, and with my CP my "startle" reflex is slower, so I can't always get my hands out to keep me from going splat. My sister once allowed me to carry my niece in a sling for a bit when she was little. I almost fell over when we were fitting her in, I wasn't ready for that weight in front. (Poor Sis, I am sure she had to keep herself from immediately telling me she'd changed her mind!) I'd had a hysterectomy by then, but feeling how difficult it was to carry that little one around with me, and having to be more aware of my balance issue made me realize it was a good thing I never had kids. If I'd been carrying my baby and fell.....I don't want to think about what that would do to an infant.
This is one of my reasons. My fam chastised me over it but....neurofibromatosis SUCKS.(dads side) It stunted my growth, (already also have generic shortness on moms side) it also caused my scoliosis in my lower back, struggles in school, and wasnt allowed to hang with a neighbor kid cause the mom thought i was diseased. Only good from it is my double jointed flexablitiy. I dont want to pass that down
I don't know why you were downvoted since you made a valid point. As someone who has been told I shouldn't have kids because me and my partner have ADHD and it'll get likely be passed on and my anxiety disorder and depression also run in the family, this one is....I get they mean if it's something really bad, but it DOES still kinda seem like eugenics. I'm in therapy and taking meds. Plus, I'd actually probably get better immediately after having children because I'd take care of myself so I could take care of my child. The only reason me and my partner don't have kids yet is because we're poor af and have common sense. Still, I get what this one means but it's a bit dodgy. I think it depends on the specific disorder that's likely to be passed on.
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I always tell people "Go buy a dog first and see how you do".
Want something that loves you unconditionally? Go buy a dog. Dont make a kid.
Want something that will s**t all Over your carpet, test your patience, and test your teaching abilities? Go buy a dog.
Want something you have to plan your life around? Go buy a high-energy dog and keep it indoors (see what happens)
That will test whether you are ready for a kid.
If your answer is "just put it in the yard and leave it there", youuuuuu really shouldn't have a kid.
Adding to the last comment, you shouldn't have a dog either if you're just leaving in the yard.
Using a pet as a test case, what a great way to end up with a neglected dog.
haha. my rescue pup never shat on the carpet, but there are so many things I never thought about... how about a dog that trusts no one else, cant be handled except by 2 ppl and doesn´t travel? i love him so so much! but it is not easy. he dictates our plans, costs money and is a lot of work.again: I love him endlessly! but people should think long and hard about a dog... now try with a whole a*s human being
Anger Issues and the fact that you didn't go to therapy.
Self insert, don't mind me.
This should be sooo much closer to the top. Anger issues are one of the worst things a parent could have. If you're easily enraged, do NOT have kids. They don't deserve to suffer through that.
You're expecting the child to be your caregiver when it grows older.
This is literally business. I don't trust people who give birth to kids as they will 'take care' of him/her later on life .
As if there aren't many, MANY parents in retirement homes who never get visits from their offspring.
If you really enjoy your "me time" and have little tolerance for stupid s**t.
I have a VERY low tolerance for stupid s**t when it's adults, but children straight up don't know better so 🤷🏻♀️ It's an important distinction.
Not wanting kids and the responsibilities that come with them
You call children weird childfree jargon like "cum pets" or "crotch goblins" without any sense of how weird and gross that is
Crotch goblins! It might be gross, but it's hilarious. I always called them fruit of your looms or spawn.
Cum pets on the other hand is also gross, weird and overtly sexual.
Load More Replies...That is really weird, we just call them ' broken condoms' along with their given names 1,2,3, or 4.
Being selfish. Kinda like me. I am more concerned with what I wanna do. If I had a child it would not be good.
At least they admit to it lol and they have the decency to not ruin a kid's life.
* If you have genetic issues you could pass on. Like why on earth do you want to bring ill or disabled kids into the world?
* When you have mental issues yourself. Heal yourself instead of suffer and pass on.
* When you can barely feed yourself.
* When you already have sleeping problems.
* When you like your free time and dont want to give that up
* When you are not willing to put your life on hold for 20 years and put a child on number 1.
* when you dont have a good stable relationship. No a kid isnt going to fix your relationship/marriage. Its actually a fact that they make it worse.
* when you have sensory problems. And dont like to be touched or loud noices.
* When you live for your career.
* When you want to have a mini-me. You are going to have a entirely new person with own thoughts, dreams and wishes, not a clone of yourself.
* When you want to pass on a legacy. You are forgotten in 3 generations. Lets be honest 99,9% of the people cant remember past their great grandparents. tons of people dont even know their great grandparents.
* When you want a kid because they are cute and all your friends have one. Oh boy, look past the kodak moments a baby is more than just the cute moments.
* When you cant give them a good future. Dont have kids in poverty. Its hard enough for us now to survive in this world. Its going to be so much worse in 20 years.
Some of these are really dodgy. Someone who has managed through life living with an inherited condition should in no way be forced to feel like that the possibility of passing it on to children should stop them from having a family.
I agree with the first one. You guys who are upset are looking at this from a perspective of someone who deserves to have kids just because they want them. If my parents had aborted me and spared me a life as a neurodivergent person, that would've been great. Sorry but in my opinion you shouldn't get to decide that it's fine for your kid to struggle through their life. If you're gonna risk passing on an illness it would be best to adopt. Wanting to have a cute little baby doesn't excuse signing them up for suffering. Adopt. "Yeah there's a high possibility I could pass on a severely debilitating condition, but I just want a baby soooo bad!!" 😶
Mental issues? So I should have aborted my kids because I passed ADHD down to one of them?
Exactly. Or having had a depressive episode, hell, every second person will have one at least once in their lifetime
Load More Replies...The first one is problematic. There are many conditions that are inheritable. And we all carry at least one if not more.
You're planning on using them as a retirement plan. If all you want is a mini-me, you should not have kids. They're individual people, whether you like it or not If you believe having children is the only way one can have a legacy. If you think it's going to fix your relationship or help you keep them. Let them go. If you expect there to be a village there for you 24/7 and don't plan on bringing anything to the village.
With the mid-latitudes quickly becoming uninhabitable there will be a worldwide mass migration, lots of disease, even slaughter, disruption of goods/conveniences everyone enjoys, and sea currents gone wrong thereby ruining commercial sea products. It's all happening now, is fed by emissions we created 30 years ago (we burn more oil every year), and will all go faster than climatologists are willing to tell us. We won't try in earnest to solve it until we are entirely unable to execute any real plan. A solar deflector out in space is just a terrible idea. Why send anyone to that future?
Not OP but I agree with them. My reason is that unaliving myself would upset my family
Load More Replies...Legit don't unless you really really want to. The cost required to raise a child is immense, and there are already too many people in the world. People are worried about extinction of humans, but we have surpassed 8 BILLION people.
My mother really really wanted to have kids. One of us is a punching bag, another is her retirement plan, and the other is a real-life cartoon villain because our upbringing warped their mind beyond repair. Her only regret is that she didn’t successfully beat the punching bag into submission.
Load More Replies...seems like bp really knows me... my parents just yelled at me for not choosing the subjects that they wanted me to choose, huh!
I mentioned genetics is one reason im out on kids. But another is the worlds state in general and (hello from america) if i have a girl or a lbgtqia+ child they will be treated like s**t in the world. They wont have equal rights. And ill be damned if im gonna pretend "the world will love them cause i do" s**t parents tell their kids. Im going into psychology i can not morally do something like that to a child.
Legit don't unless you really really want to. The cost required to raise a child is immense, and there are already too many people in the world. People are worried about extinction of humans, but we have surpassed 8 BILLION people.
My mother really really wanted to have kids. One of us is a punching bag, another is her retirement plan, and the other is a real-life cartoon villain because our upbringing warped their mind beyond repair. Her only regret is that she didn’t successfully beat the punching bag into submission.
Load More Replies...seems like bp really knows me... my parents just yelled at me for not choosing the subjects that they wanted me to choose, huh!
I mentioned genetics is one reason im out on kids. But another is the worlds state in general and (hello from america) if i have a girl or a lbgtqia+ child they will be treated like s**t in the world. They wont have equal rights. And ill be damned if im gonna pretend "the world will love them cause i do" s**t parents tell their kids. Im going into psychology i can not morally do something like that to a child.
