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Tipping is a hot topic in the United States. Minimum wage and tipping laws vary from state to state. Many people believe that the culture revolving around leaving tips is deeply flawed and bad for employees. However, it is so deeply entrenched in the American psyche that big changes are difficult to fathom.

The r/EndTipping subreddit aims to shake things up so that “US workers aren’t reliant on tips.” Members of the online community share examples of just how ridiculous and shameless demands for tips can get. We’ve curated a list of the most powerful pics to show you that the system really does need to change when things are as egregious as this. Scroll down to see for yourselves, Pandas.

Bored Panda wanted to learn about how customers can gently push back against Tipflation (tip inflation), so we got in touch with Max Alberhasky, Ph.D. He was kind enough to share his thoughts on this, as well as how changes in the minimum wage can affect tipped employees. Alberhasky is an Assistant Professor of Marketing at California State University Long Beach and is the author of the insightful ‘Psychology, Money, and Happiness’ blog on Psychology Today.

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A Seattle Ice Cream Shop

A Seattle Ice Cream Shop

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Weasel Wise
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9 months ago

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Noooooo. Not cuz tipping is a good system but proclaiming something doesn't make it true. $21/hour in Seattle is FAR from a livable wage...minimum wage is $20/hour and those people are hardly scraping by.

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Satan Laughs
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where the hell is a Molly Moon place?!?! Take my money. I’ll buy all my pandas ice cream.

WindySwede
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Com on BP, stop with this: ... "Bored Panda Recommends Did you enjoy this article? We’ve got a feeling you’ll like these pieces, too:" 😬😝

María Hermida
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's so sad this is the exception. I really wish these people the best in the world!

Littlebunnyfufu
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not an exception in Washington state. Washington state requires employees to pay a minimum wage ($19.97/hr) even if someone gets tipped. So, in a restaurant, a tipped employee will make minimum wage PLUS tips. Molly moons is offering $8 an 8 hour shift over what other employers are REQUIRED to pay and those other employees are likely making more than $1 worth of tips each hour.

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Guess Undheit
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can bet the farm at least one rube will ignorantly whine about this, and it WON'T be a business owner.

Riley Quinn
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Owners fear losing customers by raising prices to cover a living wage. But what's the difference between paying up front or coughing up a tip afterwards? Math! No more struggling with math.

Brian Droste
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good for them. Where I live that would be great for me but I am single and retired SoI really don't need to worry about that. But for a family of four not sure if that would be a viable income.

Stargazer Lily
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. After 40 years of "working my way up" as graphic designer/admin asst, I finally made $16/hr. I've been getting it with my pants on without so much as dinner.

Leanne Hailes
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Restaurant servers deserve a tip (regardless of their hourly paid wage) for good service; s****y service no. I absolutely loved being a server many moons ago. Edit: I do not agree with tipping anyone anywhere besides Servers; who run around like chickens busting their a*s and make it look easy!

Wendell T Sasaki
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no problem with tipping, as Yoda would say "Either tip or tip not". No need to get your panties in a twist.

WD Smith
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They need to f themselves. My wife is a waitress and most of her earnings is in tips. Fk this b.s. Anti-tipsters need to get bent and mind their own dam business.

Miomirko Buhtlić
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is there any other country in the World that puts that kind of pressure and guilt trip on people to tip?

Nikki Sevven
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If a local, seasonal, small business can pay a living wage, then corporations have absolutely no excuses for their BS.

Julia Strathers
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the service industry, meaning mostly sit down restaurants, employers paid its employees a decent living wage there would be no need to tip except for what tipping was originally meant for, good service not as a means of helping an employee make it pay check to pay check. The rest of the people who work service jobs that offer a semi decent wage were not meant to necessarily receive tips unless of course the customer received exceptional service and desired to reward said employee with something extra

SarahJaina
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you, Molly Moons, for getting this exactly right! I hope others follow your example, I'll spread the word. You are my heros!

Bryoney Blakley
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would happily spend a little more when I go out to eat if it meant that I didn't have to tip because employees are being paid a fair wage. When you tip, that's what you're doing anyway. Except it's us paying the fair wage instead of the employer.

wordsupfool
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10 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

However, their pints are $10 at the grocery store, so... ?!

Panda Kicki
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hope they last. Followed a couple of restaurants doing the same where the staff after a while demanded old system back.

Kitty
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That was at restaurants, not ice cream shops. At the ice cream counter, they were probably only collecting $20/day in tips. In a sit-down restaurant, most servers are making $40-$100/hr, depending on the type of restaurant/menu prices. Those restaurants wanted the servers to do the same job for $20-$30/hr, which was a huge pay cut for them, of course they wanted their higher wages back

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Weasel Wise
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh, delusional Molly Moon's, $21/hour is $1/hour more than minimum wage! Is that all it takes is $1/hour more and magically the employees are living reasonably? When a 1bedroom apartment runs easily $1700+/month, giving each employee an extra $8/day (before being taxed)....THIS ISN'T A LIVABLE WAGE!!!

Worst Cop in Britain
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go cry about it to the people making federal minimum wage which is like $7.25 still. Blows my mind how many people are missing the entire fricking point of this.

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SCamp
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is normal. Don’t celebrate as if this is great - I repeat for my US friends - this is normal. It’s underpayment of staff + tipping-as-expected that is, for a developed country, abnormal

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Marketing expert Alberhasky explained to Bored Panda how customers can gently push back against Tipflation. According to him, it helps when people have a number in mind going into the purchase when they’re asked to tip. This can be any percentage of the bill.

"Having a standard amount you want to tip going into a purchase helps prevent nudges to tip more (which is common on tablets via high default choices) or social pressure from the cashier or those behind you in line to make a fast decision," he told Bored Panda in an email.

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Justin Tyme
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So they have a tipless policy and they are happy to take tips. Okay, got it.

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"Sticking to your guns in terms of what you tip for standard service helps to provide a buffer when nudges or social pressure arise when you're paying," he said.

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“Research from Uber and former Chief Economist John List suggest most consumers have a habit or idea in mind for what they prefer to do, with 60% of riders never tipping, 20% of riders always tipping, and 20% of riders deciding to tip or not based on the quality of their ride.”

Alberhasky also commented on the drastically different minimum wages across various states in the US. "Service industry workers doing the same job in California likely earn more than workers in Nebraska. If the overall minimum wage is increased, it may indirectly affect tipped employees," he told Bored Panda.

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Kaddiss Ventorum
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cash only avoids these screens yall. No card swipey just pure hard fiat bills in hand. Unless you're telling me cash is not being taken ( which is illegal it says on the money bill good for ALL DEBTS ) ( US speaking )

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"For example, if the regular minimum wage goes up, employers may also be required to increase the cash wage for tipped employees. Additionally, changes in the minimum wage can have broader economic implications, usually impacting the cost of goods and services purchased, which may impact tipping practices," Alberhasky explained.

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"In circumstances where tipping is the norm (bars, restaurants, coffee shops), increasing wages and prices is likely to lead to higher tips because customers are tipping the same percentage on a larger bill. In circumstances where tipping is not standard yet it's an option (fast food restaurants, bowling alleys, tattoo shops), increasing prices is likely to decrease tipping because customers are facing an expensive bill that would make tipping additional money seem unreasonable," he said. 

For some more expert insights, be sure to check out Alberhasky's ‘Psychology, Money, and Happiness’ blog on Psychology Today.

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No, I'm Not Tipping A Hotel Booking Website

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End Tipping

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Guess Undheit
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If some cafe charges that much for its "coffee", I expect an orgasm with it.

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Tipping Option At Newark Airport Self-Checkout Counters

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No service was provided. It was literally one of those “express” shops where you grab things like tissues, snacks, etc.

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The tipping system in the US is convoluted and confusing, to say the least. Wage laws and attitudes toward minimum wages vary from state to state.

Pew Research Center calls it a patchwork system: “For example, a restaurant server in Waukegan, Illinois, is entitled to a $13 minimum wage—$7.80 in direct wages from the restaurant, plus a $5.20 tip credit. But for a server 17 miles away in Kenosha, Wisconsin, the minimum is $7.25—with $2.33 in direct wages from the restaurant, plus a $4.92 tip credit.”

As Pew points out, the minimum wage for most workers, under US federal law, is $7.25 per hour. However, there is a major caveat.

If an employee is a tipped employee, their employers can pay them just $2.13 per hour… so long as they get the remaining ‘tip credit’ of $5.12 per hour in tips. The employer is bound to make up the difference if their employees do not meet this minimum in tips.

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Gratuity Isn’t Gratuity If It’s Automatically Added To A Bill

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20% gratuity was automatically added to our bill for a party of 2 while the receipt says it’s added for a party of 5. On top of that the receipt given back to you pretends like they didn’t just add a tip and leaves another line for a tip

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Ni Na
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10 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was in Miami 2 weeks ago and almost every restaurant at Miami Beach had a Gratuity added (the note was at the end of the menu) and you were expected to tip too. What's the point of the 20 % then?

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The Default Tip For A Croissant Purchased Over The Counter Was 102%

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Apparently Tipping Non Living Objects Is Perfectly Acceptable

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The minimum wage in 30 US states and the District of Columbia is higher than the federal minimum. The variety is massive. It ranges from $8.75 per hour in West Virginia to nearly twice that—$17—in DC.

The tip credit also varies greatly. For instance, in Virginia, the minimum wage stands at $12. However, the tip credit is $9.87, meaning that the actual minimum wage (depending on your employer and company) can be $2.13, with the rest being considered tip credit.

However, some states (e.g. California) have refused to accept tip credit as a workable concept altogether. This means that companies are supposed to pay their employees a fixed minimum wage (e.g. $16 per hour in California, far higher than the federal minimum of $7.25 per hour). They can also keep any tips they get on top of that. 

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This Was The First Thing I Saw Today At My Hotel's "Free" Breakfast. I Was Immediately Annoyed

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WindySwede
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'Have a "Safe" trip from your breakfast if you don't tip' 😨

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Popular Sandwich Chain Had This Tip Sign

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So I Guess This Is A Thing Somewhere

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Beth H
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Holy cow, this is theater of the absurd. I have been in the restaurant industry for 25 years and I've never seen anything this egregious.

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Many Americans feel pressured to tip larger and larger sums. This effectively means that going out for dinner ends up costing far more than the customers might have anticipated. The issue is that you’re expected to tip because the servers’ livelihood depends on it.

Tipping becomes less of a reflection of good service and more of a way of supporting employees who might be living paycheck to paycheck. The responsibility, which should rest on the employer’s shoulders, is passed down to the customers. 

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DIY Mister Car Wash In Florida Asked Me For A Tip.. It’s An Automated Car Wash And You Have To Vacuum And Clean The Car Yourself. People Work There But Don’t Do Anything But Ask If You Want To Sign Up For The Monthly Club. Tip Or No Tip?!

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Kaddiss Ventorum
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The wash down my street same way: they didn't vacuum or air up the tires in my car- why would I tip an AIR COMPRESSOR

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Another issue is that tipping in the US becomes expected even in the face of substandard service. In most parts of the world, tipping is an expression of appreciation for a job well done. It’s a way to reward servers and kitchen staff for their efforts.

However, if you’re tipping even when the food’s awful, the service is horrid, and you feel disrespected, you’re effectively rewarding the business for bad behavior. This way, there’s no incentive for the restaurant to improve or to conduct better training for its employees.

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For Years We’ve Been Told If You Don’t Want To Tip Then Get Takeout - Mandatory Gratuity Charge With ‘Additional Tips Appreciated’

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The ‘End Tipping’ project was first created in the early Autumn of 2015. In the following years, the community has grown to 14.7k members. The entire aim of the subreddit is to advocate for a different system in the United States so that restaurant and service industry professionals don’t have to rely so much on tips to make ends meet.

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The moderators running the group suggest one alternative that would mean rolling a 20% surcharge into the menu prices themselves.

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“In Order To Provide Our Team Livable Wages” Anyone Notice An Increase In Messaging That Makes Customers Feel Guilty For Not Tipping?

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LavenderHippoInAJar
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the company's job to provide their team with livable wages, not the customer's

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According to r/EndTipping, American tipping culture is toxic, frustrating, and quasi-compulsory. The community hopes that, in time, it will become something different: transparent, with up-front pricing. They hope that, eventually, the prices that Americans see on their menus are what they have to pay in total. 

The mods invite everyone to share their rants, tipping-related news, info about service-included restaurants, and people’s plans to reform the system. However, they set a pretty high bar for the quality of everyone’s posts. The mods urge everyone to not write “useless or stupid stuff.” They also ask the members of the sub to treat everyone with respect, avoid ragebait posts, and avoid calling anyone out by name.

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jamesmcwhirty
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

maybe the service was appalling? I mean, look at the state of the board......

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Jay Son
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you want your employees to stop being poor, pay them a normal wage. If you want us to stop being poor, stop asking for tips

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What do you think about tipping culture in the United States, dear Pandas? How would you reform it if you could? If you live elsewhere, what’s the tipping culture like there? How much do you tend to tip? Do you always tip or do you only do so when the service is above average?

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Beth H
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've never used door dash. So they make you tip before you even place the order?!

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Went to a local bakery to support them. Their prices are already crazy ($7.49 for a loaf of bread).

The guy literally hands over a loaf of bread to me and expects me to tip?

People in front of me were ripping 22%. People behind me were staring what I would do

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Midoribird Aoi
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Mom and I tip generously at local places, providing that they are not a******s with jerk servers. We do want to support local...to a point.

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BrownTabby
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YOU do your servers this way. If you can’t afford to pay them adequately out of your current prices, put your prices up.

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Nae who and where
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow! 28% for non-members and let me guess, you then have the audacity to ask for additional tips on top of that 28%.

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Nae who and where
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate how it used to be 15% now the minimum shown on most machines is 18%. You can always do the math and leave a custom tip! You do not have to use the preprogrammed options, unless you choose to

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Delta Dawn
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

20% open grat(uity) is standard for a large party, but that IS most certainly the gratuity. You can choose to leave more if the service was excellent or the group was a pain in the a*s.

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Panflute
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be happier to tip a person who did the baking rather than the worker that handed me the cookie!

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C L
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing that confuses me is - it appears the service fee is not the same as the tip so to get the tip to the staff I actually have to do both -correct? But what is the service fee actually for? Bill padding? Using a credit card? Walking through the door? We have one restaurant that says in advance there is a service fee for using a charge card of 2.5%, but they are upfront about it.

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C Cat
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Deliveries like these are different from servers because they're independent contractors. It's comparing apples to oranges.

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Nae who and where
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've tipped 30% before, but it was a one off for stellar service. We had some bonus funds and decided to make someone's night. But generally we don't tip that much, 20% is the max we usually do, but generally 18% (we've done this since before the machines had it programed in or the receipts had the 18% option on them).

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Beth H
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always tip the cleaning people in a hotel. This is equivalent to the envelope with their names sometimes found in hotel rooms. This doesn't seem so bad.

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