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Woman Explains Difference Between Rape And Consent In 5 Tweets To Men Who Still Don’t Get It
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Woman Explains Difference Between Rape And Consent In 5 Tweets To Men Who Still Don’t Get It

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Even though it’s easy enough for most of us to comprehend, there are sadly still many people out there who don’t understand the difference between rape and consent. Because of this, Twitter user Nafisa Ahmed decided to break it down in a way that everybody can understand.

“I don’t get how rape is so hard to understand for some men,” she wrote in the first of a series of tweets. “But, if you put it like this, they get it.” Ahmed then goes on to explain the difference using a super simple and effective analogy involving a purse and some money. While it’s pretty sad that she even has to do this, we’re certainly glad that she did. Let’s just hope everybody takes note.

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Twitter user Nafisa Ahmed used a simple analogy to explain the difference between rape and consent

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Michel M. Prins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am ashamed to hear that so many of my gender still lack the knowledge of understanding the difference between consent and rape. You might get away with it, but there is a big chance that she will have to carry it with her for the rest of her life. I can say with full honesty that there are many men who can be trusted and we do know what the difference is, but sadly have to agree that there are tons of rotten apples in between them as well. To whose who had to deal with such pain and terror: Do not let the person win who has done you harm. Do not be afraid to speak out, seek guidence, training and support, because you know you deserve to be happy.

Marcia J. Downing
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a rape victim and I wish men could see how this changes who we are or were. I suffered from PTSD after. I could not be left alone because of fear, my Mother or my adult children would have to stay with me when my husband had to go out of town on business or to serve in the Air National Guard. I was a very independant woman and I loved being alone, not anymore. I lost all of that for 30 minutes of fun for him!!! He was a serial rapist in our neighbor hood, there were 7 of us, thankfully he's in jail and has been since 1985 and we will keep him there as long as I have breath in my body!!! One more thing, his wife was pregnant at the time he did all of this. He was the called the airport rapist in Nashville, Tn.

Nomadus Aureus
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I too have been raped. And it was my first time. And I used to have such (probably unrealistic) romantic ideas about how that is going to be like. Something tender, and fun, and warm... Even more than a decade later, I still can't break away from it. To this day I suffer from PTSD. I can't go to clubs. I can only go to a live concert if I'm standing at the back. I can't go into a closed place with people I don't know. And worst of all, I can't make honest, genuine love with the person I love. Did I have sex while in a relationship? Yes. But mainly because I felt it was an obligation. It feels like I've been robbed of something that is supposed to be brilliant. BUT! Last year, I finally made it to a point where I got myself together and moved out and away to a new country! All on my own! And started University. It took weeks to learn to fall asleep, I still experience difficulties in communicating with people I'm not familiar with and sometimes I still get depressed. (1/2)

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Alusair Alustriel
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If there is no allowance from the victim, it's a crime, no matter if it's stealing 5$ or raping. Crime is a crime. Forcing someone is forcing someone. Abuse is an abuse. Stop explaining the perpetrator and pushing the guild to the vicitim! Even if a woman agrees to have sex and then changes her mind in the middle, the other party HAS to respect it! And no "But"!!!

Paul K. Johnson
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm guessing most rapists understand they are committing rape. They just play stupid hoping it gets them off the hook.

Miriam Lagomorph
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, I'm not so sure, particularly in the case of date rape. My rapist didn't think he'd done anything wrong because he was my boyfriend and I didn't kick and scream.

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Quant
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A very good friend of mine was raped while in college, I didn't know at the time and I haven't seen her in that time for probably 3 years. When we finally got together again she was a completely different person. From an outgoing, outspoken, smart funny girl, she turned into a reclusive, barely speaking a word, she could smile, but I felt the pain a mile away. It took her a month to tell me that someone she knew very well at college raped her. She didn't report him, because was afraid it would ruin HER life! Insanity! I couldn't convince her otherwise, she's on antidepressants and seeing a psychologist ever since. Nothing helps more than closure. Ladies - never let it go, because you're afraid of what others will say. It will destroy you inside out.

Magpie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sadly the police and court procedures can be terrifying. This woman needs to have control of what she does next. I know you mean well... just encourage her to trust her own judgement. We rape survivors need to have as much control over our lives and bodies as possible.

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SOCiOGRAPHiC Hi
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a man..I am also a rape victim. I was raped by a girl at a house party about 8 years ago. We were both of age and sexually experienced adults. This still did not give her the right to do something with my body that I did not want HER to do. So when you say that MEN do not get it or put words against any gender, race, sexuality, or a group of people as a whole, you take the healing away from anyone in that group who has had any of these actions done top them or effected them through family or friends. I won't arrive with any of you or your opinions or points, I just ask that you open you hearts top someone outside of yourself.

Ramon Lozano
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You have my...OUR...sympathy. How women could be that vicious is scary. I too am a male survivor. "No" I said, more than once. I can still hear her "I bet I can change your mind"! I thought NO meant NO! Animals!

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Cat Keith
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, letting you take $5 does not mean that you can take $10

Bee Knotz
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yessssssss. Also it doesnt mean that you (not you specifically) are welcome to $5 whenever you want either.

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Nancy Arnold
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was date raped at the age of 18 . I told him I didn't want sex but he didn't listen . He held me down not taking notice of my crying my tears that didn't bother him . No means No every man should understand...

Matthew Wakamatsu
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men understand this, but rapists don't care about consent. Just like any law, people understand them, but will still break them, because they do not care about the consequences.

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JC Wijma
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what pisses me off almost as much as men thinking that raping a woman is okay? Men feeling the need to apologize for their gender. No, guys. Don't apologize for being a man. The actions of other men do not reflect on you. Instead, just stand up to the guy when you see s**t like this is going down. Set them straight when you see them talking to a woman in a manor that is not okay. THOSE are the actions that reflect upon you. And those are the actions women want from you. Because saying you're sorry when someone else is doing wrong, won't make anyone feel any better.

Denys Austin
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She forgot one... Just because I didn't completely cover up my $5 doesn't mean I told you you could have it.

Ramon Lozano
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What if you're walking along and find 5$ just laying on the street? Will you claim it or leave it there?

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Magpie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On my local radio they used to say after a report of a woman being raped : Women should do this or that to avoid being raped. Example: over some weeks many woman has been attacked on a bike/walk path. ... Male voice : the women were listening to music on ear buds. women should be aware of their surroundings ... I kid you not this was last year. When men were assaulted / robbed that advice was not read out. >.... as if those women somehow deserved to be raped. As if men should not carry money / cards so they would not be robbed. So yes women do need to keep explaining this. ( i emailed the radio company pointing all this out. they got it. and have changed their behaviour. )

Finn
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, There is a difference between giving sound advice on how to prevent trouble, and blaming the victim if they don't. Yes, A woman should be safe, even if she walks around the street blindfolded and handcuffed. But the regrettable reality is: she isn't . So she better make sure she takes some precautions. Same with revealing clothing. It does not and will never justify any kind of rape, harassment and other unwanted interactions. But, reality is: A desirable looking woman will get more of that from the few men that lack self-restraint. So, when going to bad neighborhoods where more of such men congregate, a woman best be careful. It should not be necessary, but it *is* and,however justified as it is, being pissed about that fact wont save you. being prepared might. It kinda compares to bike theft in my country. My bike is MY bike. I should not even need to lock it, for someone else should not take it. But fact is, some will. So i better make sure mine is locked. and locked well.

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Emre
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get how one can have fun while the other is suffering. This must be the heaviest brain damage that can happen to a person

Marcia J. Downing
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To I was here stand strong and NEVER give , he'll do it again to some other woman be strong and be there for her in court to give her support. May God bless & keep you n I'll pray for you.

David Kemp
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she is so drunk that she won't remember giving you $5. It is not ok to take it. It is your responsibility to tell her to wait until she sobers up. If she still wants to in the morning, game on

Gabby Padilla
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That only works if the guy is not also drunk. Then it is just drunken sex that the woman regrets in the morning.

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Neil Pipher
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The moment we (men) stand up and say, ENOUGH!!, rape statistics for women will drop. It will take men from all walks of life. From average guys like myself, police officers, judges, etc. etc. I'm done with men (and I use the term loosely) who continue to think women are only put on this planet to satisfy their sexual appetites. Put them in prison, so the tables are turned on them.

Jacob King
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why only Men? Women rape too, Men get raped too. The fact that you have to explicitly point out that it's towards men really annoys me because surprisingly Men aren't the only rapists.

Stacy Rae
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so very sorry to anyone who has experienced sexual assault in any way. Women, men, children. I wish all you brave people who shared your stories all the best in life and hope you can all heal as much as possible. Life can be beautiful; remember that. 🌈 ❇ ✨ 🌠 💖

jbingham
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So who is at fault if both parties are super drunk and consensual before hand but neither remember it the next day? Girl cries rape, guy's life is f****d. But oh it's the guy's fault, in his drunken stupor he should've known she was in a drunken stupor and would think it's rape even though she was willing at the time. Not that anyone would... because all men are such s**t pig animals... but that instance you could even say both parties got raped. There's a lot of grey areas to consider. It's not black & white. Really just need to keep sex consent contracts handy. Like that Dave Chappelle skit.

Emily Borden
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does a person committing a crime while drunk absolve them of all responsibility? If I rob a store, crash into another person's car, or start a fight while drunk, am I not held responsible? If a man feels he's been raped by a woman while they were both drunk, he's entitled to file a report, just as much as she is. The instances of women purposefully, or even just selfishly, entrapping men with false rape charges are the very very rare exceptions, not the rule. Strawman arguments won't change the fact that people being raped by other people is generally something truthful, rather than fabricated.

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Bruce Kunde
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fail on ad placement, Jimmy Dean Sausage being put in a pancake

John
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Michael Lemond is def a fake account. Just sayin... That said, good analogy. I'm a firm believer that rape should warrant capital punishment.

Caity WhyCough
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is an amazing way to explain it to people who don't honestly understand

Leslie Smilez
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I too have ptsd...I can't take the city buses anymore because I get too much anxiety. While going to a friend's house I was followed off the bus, this man was walking behind me the whole way, with his hand in his pants, pleasuring himself as he followed me (I was unaware until i heard a witness's statement saying he was 'jerking off while following her") it was broad daylight and on a busy street...he followed me down it then slowed down and turned as he was walking away because I looked back (before he had his hand down his pants) and made eye contact with me, so I saw him turn and walk the other way so I felt a little relieved only for that to turn into intense horror as I heard footsteps running and getting louder. He caught up to me and grabbed me in some crazy headlock position with my feet up in the air, one hand in my shirt and trying to get the other in my pants, luckily that witness was my friend meeting me half way cuz she "had a feeling." She quickly ran up to us and started

justin legault
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

there is a video at some schools that they show which swaps rape with some tea.

Silly Sausage
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok but why is all the stigma towards men? Any gender has the ability to rape and get raped, I'm sick of seeing only men being blamed for it

Drew Gaeaf
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This makes the same point nicely too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ

Lincoln James
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just want up say that rape is NEVER the fault of ANYONE EXCEPT THE RAPIST. NO MATTER the SEX, AGE, SEXUALITY or RACE of the rapist. NO MATTER the SEX, AGE, SEXUALITY or RACE of the rape survivor.

Eric Li
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So people don't understand a concept unless it is broken down to money sense... This is what happen when the world learns to greed before learning morals

Philip Clement
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If a man isn't in touch with his own emotions, vulnerabilities, sensitivities, if a man can't admit what he's ashamed of or afraid of - if he doesn't even know those things about himself -- there is no way he can pick up those clues from another, especially a woman, especially when he's horny or sexually unfulfilled. So spelling out what rape is as if talking to a seven year old is a VERY reasonable approach in the least --- catalysing discussion, and at most, hopefully giving guys' a jolt . Ladies -- if a guy can't maintain eye contact with you without distracting to something more superficial, or if a guy is going over your boundaries without noticing how you feel about it - you're dealing -- at best -- with an emotionally immature boy in a man's body : he is capable of doing harm! don't expect him to stop just because you say stop. He's 90% deaf and thick as an ape and if you think ape and 90% deaf it might help in deciding how to communicate with the a-hole.

Carmen Upshar-Tucker
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only way these men who don't know the difference between sex and rape is if their wife, mother, sister, daughter, aunt, or any female they care about is raped. Only then, will these cavemen understand.

Dene Mitchell
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am astounded by how many so call MEN need such a simple explanation to get what constitutes rape. So let's make it really simple for you mentally challenged waists of space if you don't get an answer or get a no and you have sex with that person then that's rape and you need putting down like a rabid dog.

Drewy Phillips
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't understand how so many men don't understand the difference. I'm a guy who is very unlucky with women because I seem to only ever meet shallow women who judge me for my height or the way i look. I haven't even had a cuddle in over 6 years now and when this ever comes out in conversation with people I worked with in the past, the comments i got were sick. Some saying how do i live with myself, how they couldn't go a month without and would even just force a girl to what they want if they couldn't get lucky. I'm not religious at all and I do enjoy sex but for me its gotta be with someone who actually wants it, how can someone even dream of doing it without consent. Sex to me involves passion and ain't nothing passionate when the other person isn't wanting it. Guys need respect big time for women, whatever happened to first kisses being something special, these days if your not in bed on the first date people don't wanna know.

Keith Horsey
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I still don't understand how anyone could block out the fact that they have to use force or nothing would be happening.

TheMovement85
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This argument is so weak I can break it with 2 words. Drunk Driving You are held responsible for driving drunk because you chose to drink and drive. If a guy or girl comes up to you while you are drunk whether you are a man or woman. Asks if they can have sex with you (drive him/her home) and you say yes that's still your responsibility.

Michael Weatherford
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am an old man at 53, but I can't for the life of me understand why this should have to be explained. This is something that any man that considers himself a good Father should have explained to the point of understanding to their sons before they even start dating. Respect for women should be given until they put forth a reason that they don't deserve it. And even then it doesn't make them fair game. If respect is given from the start then there aren't gray areas.

Neal Veglio
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thinking rapists are capable of rational thought is giving way too much credit to rapists.

Dana Eftodie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rape doesn't happen with just the mentally disturbed...good people that made really poor decisions is wrong still but doesn't mean they gave to drinking the koolaid..

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Daniels Pictures
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think the problem is that men don't get it. And this explanation is a bit ridiculous, IMO. Some men objectify women so that all they see is their desire and an object that can satisfy it - boobs, butts, holes, etc. They don't see the person. This makes it easier to assault a women. And this is what should be addressed, IMO. Others are angry for being rejected, or mistreated, for feeling powerless, emasculated and want to be in charge, to get that power back. That's what pushed them to rape. And that's what's needed to be addressed, IMO. In both cases (and no doubt there are other reasons) the feelings are understandable but the act is wrong. So impulse control, awareness of the problem and willingness to tackle it in appropriate ways are vital. But these things are deeper and not possible to tackle in a few simplistic tweets. Life is like that. Simplistic cures don't work.

Dana Eftodie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Interesting, I recently watched a video on millenials and the need for Instant gratification...makes me question ...

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Kay Tee
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the best post on Bored Panda. Her metaphorical examples are so clever and enlightening. I am a 34-year-old man, and I have never even kissed a girl without her permission. I always thought I was a real gentleman, but after reading this I realized that there had been moments in my life when I had had similar thoughts. For example, "Just because I gave you $5 in the past" or "If I ask you to hold my purse". I didn't rape anybody, of course, but now I know that I felt hurt and betrayed without a real reason. I hope her $5 dollar examples will have the same effect the thought of possible rapist.

Justin Heaton
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cant wrap my head around the fact that people cant wrap their head around the difference between consent and rape.

Sherry Del Bando
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To anyone that had experienced any kind of abuse...you are all SURVIVORS NOT VICTIMS. You survived something awful and no one deserves to experience any kind of abuse/assault.

Craig Reynolds
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is it possible for a woman to have so much to drink that she can't make clear decisions, a guy she is with knows this but still thinks it's okay to do what he wants? To use the current monetary analogies as an example, that tells me that if you the guy leave your wallet on the bar, anyone has permission to help themselves to whatever they want.

Bee Knotz
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I made an account just to write a comment. I love the comparison that she did. I would also add "if you asked me for $5 and I say yes and then say as I'm handing it to you, you're not allowed to take the money." Speaking on personal experiences. My ex raped me multiple times. After the first time, he said to me "stop crying." One time he told me that he doesn't like the word "no". And the biggest spit in the face was when he said to me in annoyance "you're still not ever that?!" Wtf!!! So please believe I'm sending this article to him. Not from my number though. My other ex is getting this article too. He almost raped me but I begged him not to. And then he got mad at me for overreacting! WHAT?!!!!! This rape culture has got to end. Much love to you to who respect the word "no" and consent

Michael Cannon
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to venture a statement but before starting I want it clear that I believe RAPE IS BAD AND SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AND THOSE WHO RAPE SHOULD BE INCARCERATED. Now, I want to talk about the cases of false rape allegations where the person who claims they were raped but were not (either they lied or consented and then regretted it or were simply setting the other person up). Should they be prosecuted to the same extent as the person who was accused? What about the people who claim they were intoxicated and thus their decision to have sex should now be counted as rape against the person with whom they had sex? What if the other person was intoxicated as well? Shouldn't that mean that their decision making was compromised as well? Does intoxication immediately deem someone not aware of or responsible for what they are doing? Does intoxication mean that they should not be held accountable for any decision they make until they are sober? Who measures that?

Ade Vee
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think most of the comments made by Nafisa Ahmed are true, except that early humans their ancestors were having sex for a long, long time before the invention of language. So the design of humans and even how they initiate sex is based on creatures that couldn't speak. If a guy tries to have sex with a woman that hasn't said 'NO', then she should clearly say 'NO' and even use violence to get her point across.

Eddie Brock
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with all that, so long as you don't give me $5 and then get buyer's remorse a year later. Once you (willfully/consensually) give it to us, I'm sorry, but you know, no refunds. That's our policy. Online shopping came along, and women now expect return authorizations every time they spend $5...

June Kaczan
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a women who, in her twenties, narrowly escaped two such incidents I can testify neither fitted the stereotyped picture of the victim. On the first incident I was dressed in a manner which wouldn’t have stood out at a royal wedding. I was neither drunk or under the influence of drugs. Some years later I was wearing an extremely shabby, grey jogging suit, make up less and oily hair and neither drunk or under the influence of drugs. Nasifas analogy may seem a little odd but if it helps women being spared the agony of rape and often violence then I give it my approval. However I believe Sweden passed a law that makes it illegal to have sex with a woman who is unable to give her consent due to excessive alcohol consumption. It also protect women who may have had their drinks spiked with a “ rape drug.”

Mező Ádám
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow,this article is amazing.Thanks to that lady now i've learned about rape.It is strange that people who don't get raped never learns about this.I wonder how many un-raped people haven't heard about it still.This has changed my life.(no it isn't)

Gerry Allwin
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Michel: "...there is a big chance that she will have to carry it with her for the rest of her life." Yeah, just keep telling girls, women, raped girls and raped women this s**t. Is it necessary to emphasize to them how absolutely horrendous, monstrous, vile, mind-destroying rape is? Good grief, people. It looks like some are disappointed if a woman gets on with her life instead of slashing her wrists.

Dazz Fish
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

well.. either you give me $5, - or you don't. what is this "it looks like I gave you $5,- but i really meant i did not want to give you 5,- because I was drunk which makes me helpless." I dont care about that. if you are drunk then you are still responsible for your actions. if you sit inside my living room, you are still in charge of your own actions and if you are sitting on the lap of my best friend allowing his touch then you should have stood up and sit somewhere else. i mean go tell this to a muslim women wearing hijab. she has no problem keeping her s**t together as a life choice. and she has an opinion about the possible consequences of your actions if you don't. and if you don't you need to be very clear and not rest on 18th century traditions of being unclear about intentions hoping a guy will subtly propose steps according to rules of conduct. really, you are sitting on my friends lap and you are not giving him $5,-?

Dimitri Mcdaniel
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean yeah it may not be the best analogy.. but it's an obvious non abstract idea, rape is non consent This happens to both men and women and little girls and little boys.. if you want people to think intelligently and with care about your commentary it is so so important to properly represent all who are affected, just like you never want to leave white people out of the conversation when it comes to race, their help and inclusion is absolutely necessary for progress

Joe Ingle
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sexual coercion is another form of rape. It's where they ask you to have sex with them over and over again. You continue to say no but they wear you don't and give up. No means no. I never said yes, I gave up. They manipulate you, get inside your head until you don't know what's happened. Five years this went on until I realized what happened thanks to my counselors. Any form of rape is NOT ok. No means NO! What can't you get

Donald Morris
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Borrowing requires asking and agreement. Theft requires neither. While we should always prepare ourselves against theft—and we should! But under no circumstance is the theft the fault of the one from whom something is stolen. Those who believe anything short of the borrowing requirement of asking and agreement or are so stupid or careless to not seek agreement are IMO thieves.

Buzzy Lowe
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

cant conceive how rape would be fun- but there are 2 sides to this issue- sex regret and the old I drank too much story- you even gotta watch every word you say to women or face consequences- my gender should use prostitutes only and stay safe

Jordy Carr
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well Done Nafisa Ahmed, you for got one if my friend is so drunk and forgets her purse purse and you come across it, don't help yourself to $5.

Rudy Nepomuceno
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's not the question of whether rapists know the difference between consent and rape or not, rapists are rapists period. It's an urge or a mental condition that sadly some people have. On your part what you can do is not excite them.

Michelle Noble
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if you been intimate for several months and one night he starts biting you on your face while you're in a compromised position you till I'm no then he actually puts his hand on your throat while continuing to do things with you you try to stop the person he keeps pushing you down on the bed and at some point you decide to wait till it's over, and leave as fast as you can. You feel violated and try to think of the best course of action number one definitely never see him again but then what??

Gene N Karavan
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are the most irrelevant, one sided analogies I have seen. There is cyclical fallacy in the first sentence formed! I have known so many false accusations about this you would not believe it, working as a counselor! This is a perfect example of playing the victim when shame sets. I do not support rape, but just as much rape victims, there are those falsely imprisoned!!!

Luke Marshall
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh men still don't get it? And here i figured, as an average guy who's known that rape falls on the side of wrong since i could breathe, that we had smartened up, and yet here i see comments against this unfortunately necessary list of tweets. I get need to feel defensive when the a*s hats who perpetuate this culture put a stain on the rest of us, but there is NO excuse! If She feels the need to write this then it's neither stupid nor unwarranted. This kind of statement, when presented on your screen, should give you pause to say to yourself WTF, how has this not be fixed and with part can I play to help solve it! Way to spell it out for the knuckle draggers that still don't get it. #Courage #Notok

Natalie Fisher
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for educating people. This happened to me in my own home. When I went to court the defence did every trick in the book to discredit me but because of strong women like you that have been speaking on this subject for years i was able to challenge the rape myths and challenge the attack on my character in court. I was able to say it was irrelevant how my lifestyle was, how many lovers I have had etc and what I had been wearing because none of that gave this man the right to climb through my window and get into my bed. I was able to say o I had never had any relationship to this man but even if I had it would still be rape, even if i had slept with him the night before it would still be rape to climb through a woman's window and assault her in her home. I also said it wouldn't matte if I was a sex worker and had had sex 10 times already that day it would still be rape for him to do what he did. I am not a sex worker but I am proud I said that in court because it's fact.

Jonathan Wilder
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A big part of the problem are women who cry rape to save face after a drunken encounter. The scenario goes something like this...woman goes out for a night of drinks and dancing. Said woman meets a guy. They're both drinking, dancing, and having a grand old time. Said woman finds said man attractive and decides to take him home. Now they're both intoxicated mind you. Passion heats up and things lead to mutually consensual sex. The next morning, said woman wakes up hungover and instantly regretting going home with said guy. To make herself feel better, she cries rape, he gets arrested, and later convicted of rape because a person cannot legally give consent if they're intoxicated at the time they consent. Nevermind the fact that they were BOTH intoxicated at the time of consent and that the consent was mutual. The man still gets fried for rape. This is what creates the issue with differentiating between a legit rape (where a man FORCES HIMSELF on a woman) and an illegit rape.

Daniel Miron
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Completely agreed, but I don't think Skeeve Harvey is the best response.

Jason Girard
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

🤔 did we just target men as the only demographic that commits rape...?

Leianna Marie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The real question is: why would anyone, in any given situation, take the risk of harming another human being by not explicitly asking for consent and continue to affirm consent throughout? The only answer is that consent is not their priority- getting what they want is the priority.

Heather M
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe if you don't put yourself in the situation to be "too drunk to answer", then you wouldn't have made the opportunity possible to get raped. Food for thought. We have to be responsible for our decisions just as much as a man should be responsible for his decisions.

David Dendy
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with all these examples but you also can't give me five dollars and after I spend it ask for it back

Nicholas Webb
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay I Agree with the logic. Now the real issue is Rape is an extreme of how we treat others. How many times has a Geeky person been told it's their fault for being different so of course they get picked on. It's the same logic. if that logic is fought then maybe these crimes would go down as well

quan santos
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I aggree just NOT the 1st one, what if they BOTH were drunk men get more hammered then women when it comes to alcohol. .. if somthing happen where they bothed consented while being drunk then in the morning after the act she shouldnt be able to claim rape when both partys were intoxicated, my cousin wwas in court for this and i was at the party they both were smacked not just her

Dana Eftodie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Makes you question sobriety and situations we do willingly that can snowball...

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Thomas Christopher
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The CPS would do well to learn these coz it doesn't mean guilt if someone doesn't deny their lies.

Georgia Daughtera
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I ask you for $5 and you agree to give me $5 and then change your mind tomorrow, that is not theft. If I ask you for $5 and you give me $5 but you can't afford to give me $5 so you're reluctant but don't tell me then that is not coercion or theft. If we hang out and have a good time and the next day you tell a cop that I took $5 that does not mean that I took $5, it means you are a lair and are trying to ruin my life and YOU should be punished but sadly your damage has already been done and cannot be undone. If you've got $5 hanging out of your purse by a thread ready to fall out but your girlfriend is responsible with her money and puts it away until she is ready to use it and a "real" theif comes by, he will steal from you. My parents taught me how to be responsible with my money. Perhaps more parents should do the same.

Lakeesha Jackson
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“I don’t get how rape is so hard to understand for some men,” Is it hard to understand? Or are these people claiming it is in their defense after the crime?

Lakeesha Jackson
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“I don’t get how rape is so hard to understand for some men,” Is it hard to understand? Or are these people claiming they don't understand as their defense after the crime?

Ima Me
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, if you NEED rape explained, you are NOT A MAN! Second, if A N Y male feels A N Y anger towards her response, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM! Imagine, if you will, your mom, sister, aunt, female best friend, wife, or daughter coming home after being raped. How would you feel? Keep THAT in mind and I have a feeling males would STOP

Katie Robinson
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this explains it quicker https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

Zach Frost
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you give me $5, you can't later say it was an accident and I'm a thief If you gave me $5 but your boyfriend latter finds out, that doesn't make it theft If I didn't get $5 from you but you publicly accuse me of theft, that is not a "harmless mistake" If you give me $5, but halfway through decide to stop and leave me with $2.50, I didn't steal $2.50 from you. That first $2.50 is consensual, any further money I take is theft. If a man doesn't want to give you $5 and you take it from him anyway because "men always want to give me $5", it's still theft

vdragon139
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go sit down and be quiet while grownups talk, Zach Frost. See how funny it is to make rape jokes if it happens to your mom, cuz she didn't have change for a $5.

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mikaela curtis (sammy)
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's true that it's not about cloth, i'm 18 and i almost got raped and i was in my dance outfit which is sweat pants and a t-shirt

BGothic Dimino
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My own brother abused me... I think I was between four and seven when he first began to manipulate me into thinking it was the only way to gain affection. He had eight years on me ! Out of all of us, our mum was more protective of me and very smothering. So I lived a sheltered and naive life, a rather lonely one at that... To this day, although I know it wasn't my fault, I'll forever be slightly not right, always wary of kind people and forever suspicious whenever I'll get attention. My sister and I will never get our justice, as there wasn't enough evidence to lock him up. I just hope that karma will screw him up good. But thanks to him, I'm very much protective of my niece and little sisters.

Brittany Stettler
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol buzzfeed made a video about this and she took their exact words from that video and made it into that series of tweets. I wonder if she gave them credit ?

Kassi Pierre
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My name is Kassi Pierre, I would like help with the difficulties that I am facing in the U.S. I have a lot of mental illnesses , I am disabled i have Major Depressive disorder, anxiety, Bipolar disorder, PTSD, OCD, Psychosis, and a possible new diagnosis being Shisco-affective I've been staying at hospital for months with treatments for the past few years, I feel like a prisoner. Afterwards I was raped, twice and i am constantly being street harassed and molested. I couldn't leave the house or finish my university. It became a bigger problem when i try to commit suicide. People don't want me to be gay and forcing me to be straight that's why I was raped and I'm not allowed to meet other gay women. I am persecuted and I think the government is involved. The doctors and people I told don't want to help me or just make my problems more serious. More information on my facebook page. https://m.facebook.com/kassi.pierre.1?ref=bookmarks

Brandon Young
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's all true and it's sad that some men are so blinded by their own hormones that they cannot comprehend this. I will say though, and I've had thorough debates with both males and females on this, that if I man is drunk and a women is not, that is also rape. For some reason society thinks that men always want sex and if their d**k is hard he must like it.. nah, If I'm drunk and you're sober it's not okay to trick me into taking that $5 dollars out of my wallet..

Jeff Schwartz
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Excellent by is like to offer one point: that thing at the end, "if rape was about..." implies not so subtlly that white people are more attractive than other races and that is simply not true (beauty being very subjective). This is just bringing race into the topic for no reason.

Kalikima
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was raped by the same guy twice. He was a new friend who offered to take me hiking in an area I'd been wanting to see. I was 23, married to a great man, had many close male friends, it just never occurred to me to be wary. We hiked for an hour, then had snack & stared at the view. When it came time to go back, he said I had to give him a blow job or he'd leave me out there to find my own way back. We were off trail, I hadn't seen anyone else all day, one of my biggest fears (which I'd told him) was being lost. I said "go to hell" and then wandered around in circles for 2 hrs with him following me. Finally, exhausted & near tears, I gave in, & he made me give him a blow job while kneeling in the mud. After that, he led me to my car. The next day he showed up while my hubby was at work, & when I wouldn't let him in "to apologize", he forced his way in & brutally raped me on my own bed. It took years to heal physically, I have PTSD & trust issues, it changed me as a person.

Dimitri
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

wow,. that deep, and when you take the bus, you will get there.. there is my wisdom for you Ahmed

Ryan Sutherland
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if I find 5 dollars laying in the street ? Is it my five dollars or should I call the police to see who dropped five dollars

Wesley Meade
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's b******t men don't understand and if they don't they must have an extremely low iq you'd have to be so dumb not to understand you should understand these basic principles even when your 10 years of goddamn age

Lady Aleta
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To me: if U really don't understand it, it's because U don't want to! It's because U like there to be a loophole that U can get out of in case U rape someone someday. Finito!

Teri White
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is so difficult to understand about it. What if some gay guy treated them that way...

Inge Berge
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if I'm shitfaced and buy rounds of drinks I can't really afford, my friends really stole from me, because they should have known I wasn't competent to make this decision? Is that how it works, or is "I was drunk" only an excuse if you're a woman?

Nate DiYorio
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, that all makes sense... but here's the part that none of this addressed: If you are drunk, and the guy asks for five bucks, and you are *NOT* too drunk to tell him to buy his own drunk, but instead reach into your purse and hand him five bucks. You have willingly provided this man with five dollars. You were drunk at the time. Is that theft?

Alice P
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when i was 13 ! my friend's uncle try to rape me! because of lack of time and the sudden presence of his sister i could run away!!! but i completely destroyed! now after more than 15 years I don't like men! i never had a relashionship even simple friendships with guys!!! and maybe never can find love with peace!!! part of my happines that day murderde ..iI strugle with depression every few years!!

Deekay Yang
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

look fellas,if ya drug the ladies its rape, they cant say yes or no and if they did still its rape cuz they are not capable of making they're own decision,if they are under 18 its rape,they're not grown enough to make a decision, best way to put this is what if u were a girl,then u will know what they are talking about if u dont understand still then this be the last one,will u let ur daughter go out with a guy like them or u,still dont understand? thats why u live and have the life u do, u know the saying if ur friend is dumb so r u, if he is raping his friends are too, they come in packs

Jay Hurley
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rapists know they're raping. There is no rapist raping someone who is unsure of what they're doing. The only time you have that is when you have these feminists who think you can retroactively withdraw consent and who believe in things like fart rape and stare rape. Sure, when you call things that aren't rape, rape, then you might have some men who "don't get it". But in the real world, where normal people exist, no one is confused about the subject bar a few feminists. Rapists know what rape is and they do it willingly. They're hated by men and women alike. You do not need to educate men on belittle them by assuming they're stupid because of those out there who willingly and knowingly do the wrong thing.

Chris Gen
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, not everywhere. I live in an African country and I can tell you that there are definitely men here who are of the opinion that it's impossible to rape a woman if you are married or in a relationship with her because she owes him sex and he has a right to it. Such men do not view themselves as rapists at all, that label is reserved for men who lurk in shadows attacking strange woman. Education is definitely needed.

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Rok Peternel
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really wonder what % of men are lurking rapists by these peoples standards? You can't blame an entire gender for what certain individuals have done and I will not take it.

Megi Ilp
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Great article! Well written! :) All the haters- open up your hating narrow minds.

Hope Tuttle
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately some guys think rape is still sex and has the same weight and meaning when it doesnt....When damages person physically, emotionally, mentally and socially.. women like myself will never look at men the same, trust them completely, we will question your motives all the time and may never trust you... So before a boy starts saying the woman have issues, baggage, damaged as i hear all the time heck your own footing, look at the mirror make sure its not you... Too many boys in the world, a man doesnt have rape, beat, manipulate, be little, mentally or emotionally abuse a woman... A man will stand and protect her.. Ladies be encouraged and hang in there, but becareful of your surroundings, do your best to make your answers clear, pay attention to your gut. Stayout of certain situations

Peta Hurley-Hill
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The actual things that people have said on here are very true (the first one is brilliant)but as a past victim I find the photo used on the original pop up , very confronting and tasteless.

Steve Rouse
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Simplest way yet... Keep it in your pants until she puts it somewhere else.

Lex Lemon
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are very good points and I hope people who never understood the difference (idk how?!!) now finally understand :) But don't forget!! Men get raped too, and women can rape others!!

Dan McCarthy
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"And to think a man said "Well she sat on his lap & went to his house." Okay, if I ask you to hold my purse, does that mean you can take $?" Well here's her flaw Sat on his lap = held your purse Went to his house = took the $

Un4o1y
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And if you said a man stole $5 dollars from you but he diddnt should you not get the same punishment as he would have for lying your a*s off and ruining his life?

Sherrell Allen
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Call me crazy but as a woman I know rape is never my fault but as a woman I know my limit in drinking and going to strange places where I don't know the people. We can not expect every human to be honest or decent and unless you want a parent or loved one hovering over you don't put yourself into certain situations it just isn't worth it. It's not ok to shrug responsibility onto someone that we hope are decent. It's not worth it. That part is your responsibility and you have to do your best to protect yourself as a preventive measure. Don't leave your purse lying around hoping no takes it.

V Moby
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you don't want to risk being raped, why associated with someone while both under the influence of alcohol? The potential for being raped is high when drunk and isolated with a man who probably not even engaged to you! Remember bad association spoils useful habits. If you associate with drunkards, robbers, to mention a few. You will end up getting involved thereby suffering the consequences.

TheMovement85
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this argument is so weak I can break it with 2 words. Drunk Driving When You drink and drive you're not let go because you can't "consent" to driving.

Cody Collins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Part 3: in the in my daughter was still upset claiming that she was raped. It's hard for most of us men and women to understand how someone can be rape when they've had a send my loving and extremely friendly relationship with each other for a length of time. And men have not been taught how to treat a woman going out on a date a man should not expect sex or even a serious kiss on the first date period but you young people think you're so smart and want to do it all in one night and when it don't pan out on someone has Twisted ideas then people want to scream abuse rape and whatever else. So don't put yourself in a situation where are you know one of you all are expected more than just conversation and yes don't go to a guy's apartment at 2 in the morning and think all you're going to do is just talk and drink coffee take it from a man any man that's a real man is not asking a woman to come home with him to drink coffee and watch the sunrise . So decline the offer and say good night.

Cody Collins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Part 2: so when her date refused to loan her any money the next day she called the police and said she was raped. Gave the police the guys dorm room number and everything so he gets arrested and thrown in jail and doing the investigation the police found out that she was not raped and then the girl confessed that she made it up because she was mad because he promised to loan her some money and after they had sex he changed his mind. So the lady that made the analogy about the $5 that's not always true sometimes a woman is asking for $5 and when the guy says yes you go ahead and later on have sex with him and then when the guy changed his mind and don't want to give you the $5 then you want to scream rape. Just because he said he was going to give you the $5 is not your $5 until we actually put it in your hands. And you women should not be going to bed with men that make promises because promises can be broken. So the police let the guy go with an apology .

Dana Eftodie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People crying wolf also need strict Pu ushment, but that won't happen with a joke and the penalty thus far...

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Cody Collins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Me and my daughter had this same conversation, during her 3rd year in college. A Girl on campus had cried rape. I asked my daughter to tell me what had happened , she said the campus police issued and alert that a young woman was raped on campus and that the accuser was another student. So the police go and arrest the student the male student and both of these people are Caucasian. Once I found out the circumstances that led up to the alleged rape I immediately told my daughter she was not raped. My daughter hit the roof and started yelling and screaming at me. After she calm down I explain to her why I felt she was not raped. One the young woman had went out to a bar with the guy in a group of friends, the girl got Tipsy and drunk along with everyone else. So she was escorted home or back to her dorm and that was that. The rate that not happened on that night , the next day she went out with the same guy except this time and he told her yes he So later on that night she had sex him.

Jeremy Pitcher
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And If you both get drunk, and you wake up with her 5$, both unaware of you got it, you get to go to jail for raping her :)))))))

Ankit Shrivastava
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I an against rape. But 80% rape cases are fake. Bcoz nw girls are using this stunt to blackmail boys for money and also for some other benefits. And if u r wearing sexy dresses in public place tht is an open iffer to men and if these type girks are raped thn peoples blam on men but society have to see wht tht girl dressed at the time of incident. So pls justify case thn comment

01 02
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

welll.... if im to drunk to know and we talk and have a laugh and you ask me for 5$ and i happily give you 5$ and we have fun and i maybe in the moring i give you another dollar but then the next day i miss my 6$ and i go around telling ppl you stole my 6$ and even take you to court saying i didnt give you the 6$ and you just took it... does that count as rape aswell? if you dont want to have sex with someone THEN DONT

Jacob DeBerg
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you're a little drunk and suddenly become more generous, giving out free $5 bills to some people you know, but then sober up the next day and wished you didn't give away all you cash, this doesn't mean those people suddenly stole from you last night.

faeryedark
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And if you gave some one $5 but regret doing it later, you still GAVE it to them

Thaddeus Spann
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if he is Drunk, and doesn't recall asking for or taking 5 dollars, and you can't recall giving him 5 dollars, but you don't have the 5 dollars and no way to prove he took it? Then it should be. "you both made a stupid decision to get drunk...... "

shawn pfeiffer
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK, so there was a post about giving 5 dollars, but than turning around and saying I stole 5 dollars...THAT IS NOT RAPE, THAT IS D**K REMORSE.

Ben Fuller
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand that that for the most part men are the culprits in this case. But saying men are the the evil parties does paint a black mark on us all. As a man who has been raped I find this very upsetting so, just, please stop putting people like me in the evil category. Please think about and understand what that does.

John Smith
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah but if you said I will give you $5 when really you meant I do not want to give you $5, and the man takes the $5 then this does not give you the right to seek $5,000,000 from a divorce settlement.

John Smith
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah but if you say I will give you $5 when really you meant I don't want to give you $5, and the man takes the $5, this does not give you the right to seek $5,000,000 from a divorce settlement.

Josh Wolf
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, if you give a someone $5 and regret giving him the money later, that's not rape.

Daniel Fisher
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you gave me 5 dollars when you were drunk, then wish you hadn't when sober that does not mean I stole that 5 dollars. That does not mean you can report it as theft to the police.

TheEvilSpoonerr
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's drunk, she's drunk. He asks for $5, she says yes. Next day she doesn't remember saying he could take the $5 and she says he stole it. Is he a thief?

Ian Donovan
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those are all correct and make total sense. Now what if I give you 5 dollars and you give me 5 dollars, but after you decide you want your 5 dollars back, did I still steal your 5 dollars?

teen wolf comedy
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a very good analogy and simple for those that don't understand the basic concept of the first part of how the judicial system has to decipher whether an individual was raped, although it perpetuates that rape cases are simple. Cases that often find themselves in the media are an extension of this analogy and the judicial system must temper the incident against the full analogy. If the girl gives out $5 then regrets it when checking her purse in the morning this is not rape, the girl who tips out her purse and then has to explain why the purse is empty and decides it was all stolen... This is not rape This does happen too and because of that cases are not as simple as the analogy provided. Granted in each analogy above it is rape and i think the vast majority of people undertand that, I think the issue is most people are also aware that some women wrongly accuse men as well making the whole subject a minefield. Great analogy as I say, but lacking the full picture

Bill Mullins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, what she's saying is, she sells a*s for $5? It's hard to tell from her profile picture, but I'm guessing, that's too much.

Michael Collins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not really give a rat's a*s what women think, since women do no thinking. They have proven to be little more than a parasitic cancer on this planet.

Valentine Sig
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What I find odd is that the social and federal level are a massive double standard. Socially if a man claims rape they are: Humiliated, verbally attacked, mocked, laughed at, insulted, and many times their aggressors face no charge. Since because socially there is a concept that men are "Ok" if a woman forces them to have sex because it's "Cool" or it's a guy thing. Rape is Rape. The sex of the gender should NOT matter. On the Federal level, when a man is accused of rape, they are instantly subjegated to hate before an investigation can begin. Wheen a woman is accused of rape, the man is still bombarded with "Women can't rape" And there are people that believe in that. The sex should not be an argument to excuse rape Rape is Rape. Men and Women can be victims. I sadly think however, men don't have a choice but to create concent forms. Sign them when sober, and refuse until signed. Whether it be wife, girlfriend, hook ups or anything really. Since Concent, isn't honored.

Sara Bailey
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think many WOMEN don't understand what rape actually is. Using her stealing analogy, if she's been drinking and a man asks her for $5 and she reaches into her purse and gives it to him, that's not rape. Even if she regretted giving him that $5 dollars, the next day.

Sajjad Syed
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait a minute, if both of you are drunk and technically gave consent to each other, how is that stealing? "Just because I gave you 5 dollars last time doesn't mean I will give you 5 dollars again". How about putting down the glass and saying no. For guys, respect a woman's right when she says no. For gals, please do the same thing as well and if you aren't sure about something, say no in the first place. You're drunk for god sake, there are bad people in the world who will take advantage of you. How about being an adult and stop boozing.

Curtis Waters
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This woman is what we can 'an idiot' everyone understands what rape is. The problem isn't that people don't know, it is that they don't care. Education won't fix this, women arming and defending themselves will.

James Bryant
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

However if you are so drunk that you drop $5 on the ground. It may still be stealing of someone to take it but you are still the one who dropped it. It's called personal responsibility. You put yourself in a compromising position for any reason and you assume responsibility of the risks. Same as if you break the law. People should be held accountable for their decisions. You decide to get wasted knowing the possible consequences then you have assumed the risk of said action.

Jace
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Congratulations on finding the scenario in which this analogy isn't relevant. The analogy is about consent and the men who don't understand consent. It's not about drunken sexual acts where both people consented and then someone regretted it later.

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Christopher de Serres
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What happens when I feel like i'm entitled to that $5 and I just don't realize I feel that way? I make excuses. I make it all about how you behaved, how you dressed, and what you didn't do to keep me from that $5 that I consider mine.

RJ Silvers
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if someone surprised her with 5$ she wouldn't be happy about it?

Xenonn Ati
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7 years ago

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what i hate is some women saying things like " i wish men understood this" and similar r******d sentences... WE UNDERSTAND... literally WTF ? do you people assume all men are deranged? guess what 99.99% of men wouldn't ever even think about raping someone, the thought doesn't even cross our minds, just like murder, cannibalism, torture etc. doesn't cross a normal person's mind. its only the psychos who do s**t like this.

Master Markus
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She said "some men". I thought very similarly to you but re-read it again to double-check. I think a lot of people who talk about rape seriously try not to deal in absolutes (i.e. All men, all women) because, well, it's horrible exaggeration that will ultimately turn people from your point.

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Hugo Raible
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When I show you 100$ and you stare at it a long time, you didn't steal it. If you ask me twice or three times to give you 5$ and I finally do, you didn't steal it. If I am drunk and give you 5$, you didn't steal it, even if I regret it the next morning. Analogies are a b***h.

Chris Taylor
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'men' Because it is only men that commit rape. All men are rapists.

Seth Gecko
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7 years ago

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Rape is being forced into sexual acts against one's will. I understand that. But there are those who confuse rape with the guilty feel of cheating on a lover. Once the accusations are made the damage is done. We need to be accountable for ourselves, avoid situations that place you in danger.

Master Markus
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, avoiding situations that place you in danger is good advice for not having any crime done to you, but rape sometimes happens with people you trust, like family, friends, etc. not just random guys in back alleys and shady clubs.

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ricky angga pratama
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my girlfriend take off her clothes, is that a rape? i think that she wanted me to,

Alberto Menez
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7 years ago

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You women crave to much attention why put your self in that situation if you don't know the guy get to know him first before you start getting drunk with the dude I respect women's rights I'm all about that but there is some f****d up individual in this world we cannot change the sick minded and they're not all men there is women out there too that are sick minded I know I was a victim from my older sisters.

Amy Hewitt
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did you not read the above? Sober people get raped. People get raped by relatives and partners. Stop blaming the victim. Just because she is drunk doesn't mean she deserves it.

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Jonathan Eatsalot
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People who don't rape don't care about this advice. People that do rape don't care about this advice. See how that works?

Israel Martinez
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think it's about whether anybody takes the advice or not ... the point is that many perpetrators tend to feign ignorance of what constitutes rape ... by making this go viral, at the very least, lets would-be rapists know that they can no longer feign ignorance ...

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Stano Kaluze
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"I was so shitfaced last night, that I f****d a total stranger. And now I regret it, so I'll call it rape. Otherwise my gfs would think me a total s**t." Classic xD

dash
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Most women want to be raped anyway. But no man would risk raping a woman these days. Women are just seeking attention with all the false rape accusations and tweets like these.

Sick Boy
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Following the analogy her "thingy" comes off pretty cheap.

Michel M. Prins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am ashamed to hear that so many of my gender still lack the knowledge of understanding the difference between consent and rape. You might get away with it, but there is a big chance that she will have to carry it with her for the rest of her life. I can say with full honesty that there are many men who can be trusted and we do know what the difference is, but sadly have to agree that there are tons of rotten apples in between them as well. To whose who had to deal with such pain and terror: Do not let the person win who has done you harm. Do not be afraid to speak out, seek guidence, training and support, because you know you deserve to be happy.

Marcia J. Downing
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a rape victim and I wish men could see how this changes who we are or were. I suffered from PTSD after. I could not be left alone because of fear, my Mother or my adult children would have to stay with me when my husband had to go out of town on business or to serve in the Air National Guard. I was a very independant woman and I loved being alone, not anymore. I lost all of that for 30 minutes of fun for him!!! He was a serial rapist in our neighbor hood, there were 7 of us, thankfully he's in jail and has been since 1985 and we will keep him there as long as I have breath in my body!!! One more thing, his wife was pregnant at the time he did all of this. He was the called the airport rapist in Nashville, Tn.

Nomadus Aureus
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I too have been raped. And it was my first time. And I used to have such (probably unrealistic) romantic ideas about how that is going to be like. Something tender, and fun, and warm... Even more than a decade later, I still can't break away from it. To this day I suffer from PTSD. I can't go to clubs. I can only go to a live concert if I'm standing at the back. I can't go into a closed place with people I don't know. And worst of all, I can't make honest, genuine love with the person I love. Did I have sex while in a relationship? Yes. But mainly because I felt it was an obligation. It feels like I've been robbed of something that is supposed to be brilliant. BUT! Last year, I finally made it to a point where I got myself together and moved out and away to a new country! All on my own! And started University. It took weeks to learn to fall asleep, I still experience difficulties in communicating with people I'm not familiar with and sometimes I still get depressed. (1/2)

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Alusair Alustriel
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If there is no allowance from the victim, it's a crime, no matter if it's stealing 5$ or raping. Crime is a crime. Forcing someone is forcing someone. Abuse is an abuse. Stop explaining the perpetrator and pushing the guild to the vicitim! Even if a woman agrees to have sex and then changes her mind in the middle, the other party HAS to respect it! And no "But"!!!

Paul K. Johnson
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm guessing most rapists understand they are committing rape. They just play stupid hoping it gets them off the hook.

Miriam Lagomorph
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, I'm not so sure, particularly in the case of date rape. My rapist didn't think he'd done anything wrong because he was my boyfriend and I didn't kick and scream.

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Quant
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A very good friend of mine was raped while in college, I didn't know at the time and I haven't seen her in that time for probably 3 years. When we finally got together again she was a completely different person. From an outgoing, outspoken, smart funny girl, she turned into a reclusive, barely speaking a word, she could smile, but I felt the pain a mile away. It took her a month to tell me that someone she knew very well at college raped her. She didn't report him, because was afraid it would ruin HER life! Insanity! I couldn't convince her otherwise, she's on antidepressants and seeing a psychologist ever since. Nothing helps more than closure. Ladies - never let it go, because you're afraid of what others will say. It will destroy you inside out.

Magpie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sadly the police and court procedures can be terrifying. This woman needs to have control of what she does next. I know you mean well... just encourage her to trust her own judgement. We rape survivors need to have as much control over our lives and bodies as possible.

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SOCiOGRAPHiC Hi
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a man..I am also a rape victim. I was raped by a girl at a house party about 8 years ago. We were both of age and sexually experienced adults. This still did not give her the right to do something with my body that I did not want HER to do. So when you say that MEN do not get it or put words against any gender, race, sexuality, or a group of people as a whole, you take the healing away from anyone in that group who has had any of these actions done top them or effected them through family or friends. I won't arrive with any of you or your opinions or points, I just ask that you open you hearts top someone outside of yourself.

Ramon Lozano
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You have my...OUR...sympathy. How women could be that vicious is scary. I too am a male survivor. "No" I said, more than once. I can still hear her "I bet I can change your mind"! I thought NO meant NO! Animals!

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Cat Keith
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, letting you take $5 does not mean that you can take $10

Bee Knotz
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yessssssss. Also it doesnt mean that you (not you specifically) are welcome to $5 whenever you want either.

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Nancy Arnold
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was date raped at the age of 18 . I told him I didn't want sex but he didn't listen . He held me down not taking notice of my crying my tears that didn't bother him . No means No every man should understand...

Matthew Wakamatsu
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men understand this, but rapists don't care about consent. Just like any law, people understand them, but will still break them, because they do not care about the consequences.

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JC Wijma
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what pisses me off almost as much as men thinking that raping a woman is okay? Men feeling the need to apologize for their gender. No, guys. Don't apologize for being a man. The actions of other men do not reflect on you. Instead, just stand up to the guy when you see s**t like this is going down. Set them straight when you see them talking to a woman in a manor that is not okay. THOSE are the actions that reflect upon you. And those are the actions women want from you. Because saying you're sorry when someone else is doing wrong, won't make anyone feel any better.

Denys Austin
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She forgot one... Just because I didn't completely cover up my $5 doesn't mean I told you you could have it.

Ramon Lozano
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7 years ago

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What if you're walking along and find 5$ just laying on the street? Will you claim it or leave it there?

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Magpie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On my local radio they used to say after a report of a woman being raped : Women should do this or that to avoid being raped. Example: over some weeks many woman has been attacked on a bike/walk path. ... Male voice : the women were listening to music on ear buds. women should be aware of their surroundings ... I kid you not this was last year. When men were assaulted / robbed that advice was not read out. >.... as if those women somehow deserved to be raped. As if men should not carry money / cards so they would not be robbed. So yes women do need to keep explaining this. ( i emailed the radio company pointing all this out. they got it. and have changed their behaviour. )

Finn
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, There is a difference between giving sound advice on how to prevent trouble, and blaming the victim if they don't. Yes, A woman should be safe, even if she walks around the street blindfolded and handcuffed. But the regrettable reality is: she isn't . So she better make sure she takes some precautions. Same with revealing clothing. It does not and will never justify any kind of rape, harassment and other unwanted interactions. But, reality is: A desirable looking woman will get more of that from the few men that lack self-restraint. So, when going to bad neighborhoods where more of such men congregate, a woman best be careful. It should not be necessary, but it *is* and,however justified as it is, being pissed about that fact wont save you. being prepared might. It kinda compares to bike theft in my country. My bike is MY bike. I should not even need to lock it, for someone else should not take it. But fact is, some will. So i better make sure mine is locked. and locked well.

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Emre
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get how one can have fun while the other is suffering. This must be the heaviest brain damage that can happen to a person

Marcia J. Downing
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To I was here stand strong and NEVER give , he'll do it again to some other woman be strong and be there for her in court to give her support. May God bless & keep you n I'll pray for you.

David Kemp
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she is so drunk that she won't remember giving you $5. It is not ok to take it. It is your responsibility to tell her to wait until she sobers up. If she still wants to in the morning, game on

Gabby Padilla
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That only works if the guy is not also drunk. Then it is just drunken sex that the woman regrets in the morning.

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Neil Pipher
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The moment we (men) stand up and say, ENOUGH!!, rape statistics for women will drop. It will take men from all walks of life. From average guys like myself, police officers, judges, etc. etc. I'm done with men (and I use the term loosely) who continue to think women are only put on this planet to satisfy their sexual appetites. Put them in prison, so the tables are turned on them.

Jacob King
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why only Men? Women rape too, Men get raped too. The fact that you have to explicitly point out that it's towards men really annoys me because surprisingly Men aren't the only rapists.

Stacy Rae
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so very sorry to anyone who has experienced sexual assault in any way. Women, men, children. I wish all you brave people who shared your stories all the best in life and hope you can all heal as much as possible. Life can be beautiful; remember that. 🌈 ❇ ✨ 🌠 💖

jbingham
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So who is at fault if both parties are super drunk and consensual before hand but neither remember it the next day? Girl cries rape, guy's life is f****d. But oh it's the guy's fault, in his drunken stupor he should've known she was in a drunken stupor and would think it's rape even though she was willing at the time. Not that anyone would... because all men are such s**t pig animals... but that instance you could even say both parties got raped. There's a lot of grey areas to consider. It's not black & white. Really just need to keep sex consent contracts handy. Like that Dave Chappelle skit.

Emily Borden
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does a person committing a crime while drunk absolve them of all responsibility? If I rob a store, crash into another person's car, or start a fight while drunk, am I not held responsible? If a man feels he's been raped by a woman while they were both drunk, he's entitled to file a report, just as much as she is. The instances of women purposefully, or even just selfishly, entrapping men with false rape charges are the very very rare exceptions, not the rule. Strawman arguments won't change the fact that people being raped by other people is generally something truthful, rather than fabricated.

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Bruce Kunde
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fail on ad placement, Jimmy Dean Sausage being put in a pancake

John
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Michael Lemond is def a fake account. Just sayin... That said, good analogy. I'm a firm believer that rape should warrant capital punishment.

Caity WhyCough
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is an amazing way to explain it to people who don't honestly understand

Leslie Smilez
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I too have ptsd...I can't take the city buses anymore because I get too much anxiety. While going to a friend's house I was followed off the bus, this man was walking behind me the whole way, with his hand in his pants, pleasuring himself as he followed me (I was unaware until i heard a witness's statement saying he was 'jerking off while following her") it was broad daylight and on a busy street...he followed me down it then slowed down and turned as he was walking away because I looked back (before he had his hand down his pants) and made eye contact with me, so I saw him turn and walk the other way so I felt a little relieved only for that to turn into intense horror as I heard footsteps running and getting louder. He caught up to me and grabbed me in some crazy headlock position with my feet up in the air, one hand in my shirt and trying to get the other in my pants, luckily that witness was my friend meeting me half way cuz she "had a feeling." She quickly ran up to us and started

justin legault
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

there is a video at some schools that they show which swaps rape with some tea.

Silly Sausage
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok but why is all the stigma towards men? Any gender has the ability to rape and get raped, I'm sick of seeing only men being blamed for it

Drew Gaeaf
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This makes the same point nicely too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ

Lincoln James
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just want up say that rape is NEVER the fault of ANYONE EXCEPT THE RAPIST. NO MATTER the SEX, AGE, SEXUALITY or RACE of the rapist. NO MATTER the SEX, AGE, SEXUALITY or RACE of the rape survivor.

Eric Li
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So people don't understand a concept unless it is broken down to money sense... This is what happen when the world learns to greed before learning morals

Philip Clement
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If a man isn't in touch with his own emotions, vulnerabilities, sensitivities, if a man can't admit what he's ashamed of or afraid of - if he doesn't even know those things about himself -- there is no way he can pick up those clues from another, especially a woman, especially when he's horny or sexually unfulfilled. So spelling out what rape is as if talking to a seven year old is a VERY reasonable approach in the least --- catalysing discussion, and at most, hopefully giving guys' a jolt . Ladies -- if a guy can't maintain eye contact with you without distracting to something more superficial, or if a guy is going over your boundaries without noticing how you feel about it - you're dealing -- at best -- with an emotionally immature boy in a man's body : he is capable of doing harm! don't expect him to stop just because you say stop. He's 90% deaf and thick as an ape and if you think ape and 90% deaf it might help in deciding how to communicate with the a-hole.

Carmen Upshar-Tucker
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only way these men who don't know the difference between sex and rape is if their wife, mother, sister, daughter, aunt, or any female they care about is raped. Only then, will these cavemen understand.

Dene Mitchell
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am astounded by how many so call MEN need such a simple explanation to get what constitutes rape. So let's make it really simple for you mentally challenged waists of space if you don't get an answer or get a no and you have sex with that person then that's rape and you need putting down like a rabid dog.

Drewy Phillips
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't understand how so many men don't understand the difference. I'm a guy who is very unlucky with women because I seem to only ever meet shallow women who judge me for my height or the way i look. I haven't even had a cuddle in over 6 years now and when this ever comes out in conversation with people I worked with in the past, the comments i got were sick. Some saying how do i live with myself, how they couldn't go a month without and would even just force a girl to what they want if they couldn't get lucky. I'm not religious at all and I do enjoy sex but for me its gotta be with someone who actually wants it, how can someone even dream of doing it without consent. Sex to me involves passion and ain't nothing passionate when the other person isn't wanting it. Guys need respect big time for women, whatever happened to first kisses being something special, these days if your not in bed on the first date people don't wanna know.

Keith Horsey
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I still don't understand how anyone could block out the fact that they have to use force or nothing would be happening.

TheMovement85
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This argument is so weak I can break it with 2 words. Drunk Driving You are held responsible for driving drunk because you chose to drink and drive. If a guy or girl comes up to you while you are drunk whether you are a man or woman. Asks if they can have sex with you (drive him/her home) and you say yes that's still your responsibility.

Michael Weatherford
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am an old man at 53, but I can't for the life of me understand why this should have to be explained. This is something that any man that considers himself a good Father should have explained to the point of understanding to their sons before they even start dating. Respect for women should be given until they put forth a reason that they don't deserve it. And even then it doesn't make them fair game. If respect is given from the start then there aren't gray areas.

Neal Veglio
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thinking rapists are capable of rational thought is giving way too much credit to rapists.

Dana Eftodie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rape doesn't happen with just the mentally disturbed...good people that made really poor decisions is wrong still but doesn't mean they gave to drinking the koolaid..

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Daniels Pictures
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think the problem is that men don't get it. And this explanation is a bit ridiculous, IMO. Some men objectify women so that all they see is their desire and an object that can satisfy it - boobs, butts, holes, etc. They don't see the person. This makes it easier to assault a women. And this is what should be addressed, IMO. Others are angry for being rejected, or mistreated, for feeling powerless, emasculated and want to be in charge, to get that power back. That's what pushed them to rape. And that's what's needed to be addressed, IMO. In both cases (and no doubt there are other reasons) the feelings are understandable but the act is wrong. So impulse control, awareness of the problem and willingness to tackle it in appropriate ways are vital. But these things are deeper and not possible to tackle in a few simplistic tweets. Life is like that. Simplistic cures don't work.

Dana Eftodie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Interesting, I recently watched a video on millenials and the need for Instant gratification...makes me question ...

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Kay Tee
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the best post on Bored Panda. Her metaphorical examples are so clever and enlightening. I am a 34-year-old man, and I have never even kissed a girl without her permission. I always thought I was a real gentleman, but after reading this I realized that there had been moments in my life when I had had similar thoughts. For example, "Just because I gave you $5 in the past" or "If I ask you to hold my purse". I didn't rape anybody, of course, but now I know that I felt hurt and betrayed without a real reason. I hope her $5 dollar examples will have the same effect the thought of possible rapist.

Justin Heaton
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cant wrap my head around the fact that people cant wrap their head around the difference between consent and rape.

Sherry Del Bando
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To anyone that had experienced any kind of abuse...you are all SURVIVORS NOT VICTIMS. You survived something awful and no one deserves to experience any kind of abuse/assault.

Craig Reynolds
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is it possible for a woman to have so much to drink that she can't make clear decisions, a guy she is with knows this but still thinks it's okay to do what he wants? To use the current monetary analogies as an example, that tells me that if you the guy leave your wallet on the bar, anyone has permission to help themselves to whatever they want.

Bee Knotz
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I made an account just to write a comment. I love the comparison that she did. I would also add "if you asked me for $5 and I say yes and then say as I'm handing it to you, you're not allowed to take the money." Speaking on personal experiences. My ex raped me multiple times. After the first time, he said to me "stop crying." One time he told me that he doesn't like the word "no". And the biggest spit in the face was when he said to me in annoyance "you're still not ever that?!" Wtf!!! So please believe I'm sending this article to him. Not from my number though. My other ex is getting this article too. He almost raped me but I begged him not to. And then he got mad at me for overreacting! WHAT?!!!!! This rape culture has got to end. Much love to you to who respect the word "no" and consent

Michael Cannon
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to venture a statement but before starting I want it clear that I believe RAPE IS BAD AND SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AND THOSE WHO RAPE SHOULD BE INCARCERATED. Now, I want to talk about the cases of false rape allegations where the person who claims they were raped but were not (either they lied or consented and then regretted it or were simply setting the other person up). Should they be prosecuted to the same extent as the person who was accused? What about the people who claim they were intoxicated and thus their decision to have sex should now be counted as rape against the person with whom they had sex? What if the other person was intoxicated as well? Shouldn't that mean that their decision making was compromised as well? Does intoxication immediately deem someone not aware of or responsible for what they are doing? Does intoxication mean that they should not be held accountable for any decision they make until they are sober? Who measures that?

Ade Vee
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think most of the comments made by Nafisa Ahmed are true, except that early humans their ancestors were having sex for a long, long time before the invention of language. So the design of humans and even how they initiate sex is based on creatures that couldn't speak. If a guy tries to have sex with a woman that hasn't said 'NO', then she should clearly say 'NO' and even use violence to get her point across.

Eddie Brock
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with all that, so long as you don't give me $5 and then get buyer's remorse a year later. Once you (willfully/consensually) give it to us, I'm sorry, but you know, no refunds. That's our policy. Online shopping came along, and women now expect return authorizations every time they spend $5...

June Kaczan
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a women who, in her twenties, narrowly escaped two such incidents I can testify neither fitted the stereotyped picture of the victim. On the first incident I was dressed in a manner which wouldn’t have stood out at a royal wedding. I was neither drunk or under the influence of drugs. Some years later I was wearing an extremely shabby, grey jogging suit, make up less and oily hair and neither drunk or under the influence of drugs. Nasifas analogy may seem a little odd but if it helps women being spared the agony of rape and often violence then I give it my approval. However I believe Sweden passed a law that makes it illegal to have sex with a woman who is unable to give her consent due to excessive alcohol consumption. It also protect women who may have had their drinks spiked with a “ rape drug.”

Mező Ádám
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow,this article is amazing.Thanks to that lady now i've learned about rape.It is strange that people who don't get raped never learns about this.I wonder how many un-raped people haven't heard about it still.This has changed my life.(no it isn't)

Gerry Allwin
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Michel: "...there is a big chance that she will have to carry it with her for the rest of her life." Yeah, just keep telling girls, women, raped girls and raped women this s**t. Is it necessary to emphasize to them how absolutely horrendous, monstrous, vile, mind-destroying rape is? Good grief, people. It looks like some are disappointed if a woman gets on with her life instead of slashing her wrists.

Dazz Fish
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

well.. either you give me $5, - or you don't. what is this "it looks like I gave you $5,- but i really meant i did not want to give you 5,- because I was drunk which makes me helpless." I dont care about that. if you are drunk then you are still responsible for your actions. if you sit inside my living room, you are still in charge of your own actions and if you are sitting on the lap of my best friend allowing his touch then you should have stood up and sit somewhere else. i mean go tell this to a muslim women wearing hijab. she has no problem keeping her s**t together as a life choice. and she has an opinion about the possible consequences of your actions if you don't. and if you don't you need to be very clear and not rest on 18th century traditions of being unclear about intentions hoping a guy will subtly propose steps according to rules of conduct. really, you are sitting on my friends lap and you are not giving him $5,-?

Dimitri Mcdaniel
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean yeah it may not be the best analogy.. but it's an obvious non abstract idea, rape is non consent This happens to both men and women and little girls and little boys.. if you want people to think intelligently and with care about your commentary it is so so important to properly represent all who are affected, just like you never want to leave white people out of the conversation when it comes to race, their help and inclusion is absolutely necessary for progress

Joe Ingle
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sexual coercion is another form of rape. It's where they ask you to have sex with them over and over again. You continue to say no but they wear you don't and give up. No means no. I never said yes, I gave up. They manipulate you, get inside your head until you don't know what's happened. Five years this went on until I realized what happened thanks to my counselors. Any form of rape is NOT ok. No means NO! What can't you get

Donald Morris
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Borrowing requires asking and agreement. Theft requires neither. While we should always prepare ourselves against theft—and we should! But under no circumstance is the theft the fault of the one from whom something is stolen. Those who believe anything short of the borrowing requirement of asking and agreement or are so stupid or careless to not seek agreement are IMO thieves.

Buzzy Lowe
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

cant conceive how rape would be fun- but there are 2 sides to this issue- sex regret and the old I drank too much story- you even gotta watch every word you say to women or face consequences- my gender should use prostitutes only and stay safe

Jordy Carr
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well Done Nafisa Ahmed, you for got one if my friend is so drunk and forgets her purse purse and you come across it, don't help yourself to $5.

Rudy Nepomuceno
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's not the question of whether rapists know the difference between consent and rape or not, rapists are rapists period. It's an urge or a mental condition that sadly some people have. On your part what you can do is not excite them.

Michelle Noble
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if you been intimate for several months and one night he starts biting you on your face while you're in a compromised position you till I'm no then he actually puts his hand on your throat while continuing to do things with you you try to stop the person he keeps pushing you down on the bed and at some point you decide to wait till it's over, and leave as fast as you can. You feel violated and try to think of the best course of action number one definitely never see him again but then what??

Gene N Karavan
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are the most irrelevant, one sided analogies I have seen. There is cyclical fallacy in the first sentence formed! I have known so many false accusations about this you would not believe it, working as a counselor! This is a perfect example of playing the victim when shame sets. I do not support rape, but just as much rape victims, there are those falsely imprisoned!!!

Luke Marshall
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh men still don't get it? And here i figured, as an average guy who's known that rape falls on the side of wrong since i could breathe, that we had smartened up, and yet here i see comments against this unfortunately necessary list of tweets. I get need to feel defensive when the a*s hats who perpetuate this culture put a stain on the rest of us, but there is NO excuse! If She feels the need to write this then it's neither stupid nor unwarranted. This kind of statement, when presented on your screen, should give you pause to say to yourself WTF, how has this not be fixed and with part can I play to help solve it! Way to spell it out for the knuckle draggers that still don't get it. #Courage #Notok

Natalie Fisher
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for educating people. This happened to me in my own home. When I went to court the defence did every trick in the book to discredit me but because of strong women like you that have been speaking on this subject for years i was able to challenge the rape myths and challenge the attack on my character in court. I was able to say it was irrelevant how my lifestyle was, how many lovers I have had etc and what I had been wearing because none of that gave this man the right to climb through my window and get into my bed. I was able to say o I had never had any relationship to this man but even if I had it would still be rape, even if i had slept with him the night before it would still be rape to climb through a woman's window and assault her in her home. I also said it wouldn't matte if I was a sex worker and had had sex 10 times already that day it would still be rape for him to do what he did. I am not a sex worker but I am proud I said that in court because it's fact.

Jonathan Wilder
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A big part of the problem are women who cry rape to save face after a drunken encounter. The scenario goes something like this...woman goes out for a night of drinks and dancing. Said woman meets a guy. They're both drinking, dancing, and having a grand old time. Said woman finds said man attractive and decides to take him home. Now they're both intoxicated mind you. Passion heats up and things lead to mutually consensual sex. The next morning, said woman wakes up hungover and instantly regretting going home with said guy. To make herself feel better, she cries rape, he gets arrested, and later convicted of rape because a person cannot legally give consent if they're intoxicated at the time they consent. Nevermind the fact that they were BOTH intoxicated at the time of consent and that the consent was mutual. The man still gets fried for rape. This is what creates the issue with differentiating between a legit rape (where a man FORCES HIMSELF on a woman) and an illegit rape.

Daniel Miron
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Completely agreed, but I don't think Skeeve Harvey is the best response.

Jason Girard
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

🤔 did we just target men as the only demographic that commits rape...?

Leianna Marie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The real question is: why would anyone, in any given situation, take the risk of harming another human being by not explicitly asking for consent and continue to affirm consent throughout? The only answer is that consent is not their priority- getting what they want is the priority.

Heather M
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe if you don't put yourself in the situation to be "too drunk to answer", then you wouldn't have made the opportunity possible to get raped. Food for thought. We have to be responsible for our decisions just as much as a man should be responsible for his decisions.

David Dendy
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with all these examples but you also can't give me five dollars and after I spend it ask for it back

Nicholas Webb
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay I Agree with the logic. Now the real issue is Rape is an extreme of how we treat others. How many times has a Geeky person been told it's their fault for being different so of course they get picked on. It's the same logic. if that logic is fought then maybe these crimes would go down as well

quan santos
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I aggree just NOT the 1st one, what if they BOTH were drunk men get more hammered then women when it comes to alcohol. .. if somthing happen where they bothed consented while being drunk then in the morning after the act she shouldnt be able to claim rape when both partys were intoxicated, my cousin wwas in court for this and i was at the party they both were smacked not just her

Dana Eftodie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Makes you question sobriety and situations we do willingly that can snowball...

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Thomas Christopher
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The CPS would do well to learn these coz it doesn't mean guilt if someone doesn't deny their lies.

Georgia Daughtera
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I ask you for $5 and you agree to give me $5 and then change your mind tomorrow, that is not theft. If I ask you for $5 and you give me $5 but you can't afford to give me $5 so you're reluctant but don't tell me then that is not coercion or theft. If we hang out and have a good time and the next day you tell a cop that I took $5 that does not mean that I took $5, it means you are a lair and are trying to ruin my life and YOU should be punished but sadly your damage has already been done and cannot be undone. If you've got $5 hanging out of your purse by a thread ready to fall out but your girlfriend is responsible with her money and puts it away until she is ready to use it and a "real" theif comes by, he will steal from you. My parents taught me how to be responsible with my money. Perhaps more parents should do the same.

Lakeesha Jackson
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“I don’t get how rape is so hard to understand for some men,” Is it hard to understand? Or are these people claiming it is in their defense after the crime?

Lakeesha Jackson
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“I don’t get how rape is so hard to understand for some men,” Is it hard to understand? Or are these people claiming they don't understand as their defense after the crime?

Ima Me
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, if you NEED rape explained, you are NOT A MAN! Second, if A N Y male feels A N Y anger towards her response, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM! Imagine, if you will, your mom, sister, aunt, female best friend, wife, or daughter coming home after being raped. How would you feel? Keep THAT in mind and I have a feeling males would STOP

Katie Robinson
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this explains it quicker https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

Zach Frost
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you give me $5, you can't later say it was an accident and I'm a thief If you gave me $5 but your boyfriend latter finds out, that doesn't make it theft If I didn't get $5 from you but you publicly accuse me of theft, that is not a "harmless mistake" If you give me $5, but halfway through decide to stop and leave me with $2.50, I didn't steal $2.50 from you. That first $2.50 is consensual, any further money I take is theft. If a man doesn't want to give you $5 and you take it from him anyway because "men always want to give me $5", it's still theft

vdragon139
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go sit down and be quiet while grownups talk, Zach Frost. See how funny it is to make rape jokes if it happens to your mom, cuz she didn't have change for a $5.

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mikaela curtis (sammy)
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's true that it's not about cloth, i'm 18 and i almost got raped and i was in my dance outfit which is sweat pants and a t-shirt

BGothic Dimino
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My own brother abused me... I think I was between four and seven when he first began to manipulate me into thinking it was the only way to gain affection. He had eight years on me ! Out of all of us, our mum was more protective of me and very smothering. So I lived a sheltered and naive life, a rather lonely one at that... To this day, although I know it wasn't my fault, I'll forever be slightly not right, always wary of kind people and forever suspicious whenever I'll get attention. My sister and I will never get our justice, as there wasn't enough evidence to lock him up. I just hope that karma will screw him up good. But thanks to him, I'm very much protective of my niece and little sisters.

Brittany Stettler
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol buzzfeed made a video about this and she took their exact words from that video and made it into that series of tweets. I wonder if she gave them credit ?

Kassi Pierre
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My name is Kassi Pierre, I would like help with the difficulties that I am facing in the U.S. I have a lot of mental illnesses , I am disabled i have Major Depressive disorder, anxiety, Bipolar disorder, PTSD, OCD, Psychosis, and a possible new diagnosis being Shisco-affective I've been staying at hospital for months with treatments for the past few years, I feel like a prisoner. Afterwards I was raped, twice and i am constantly being street harassed and molested. I couldn't leave the house or finish my university. It became a bigger problem when i try to commit suicide. People don't want me to be gay and forcing me to be straight that's why I was raped and I'm not allowed to meet other gay women. I am persecuted and I think the government is involved. The doctors and people I told don't want to help me or just make my problems more serious. More information on my facebook page. https://m.facebook.com/kassi.pierre.1?ref=bookmarks

Brandon Young
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's all true and it's sad that some men are so blinded by their own hormones that they cannot comprehend this. I will say though, and I've had thorough debates with both males and females on this, that if I man is drunk and a women is not, that is also rape. For some reason society thinks that men always want sex and if their d**k is hard he must like it.. nah, If I'm drunk and you're sober it's not okay to trick me into taking that $5 dollars out of my wallet..

Jeff Schwartz
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Excellent by is like to offer one point: that thing at the end, "if rape was about..." implies not so subtlly that white people are more attractive than other races and that is simply not true (beauty being very subjective). This is just bringing race into the topic for no reason.

Kalikima
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was raped by the same guy twice. He was a new friend who offered to take me hiking in an area I'd been wanting to see. I was 23, married to a great man, had many close male friends, it just never occurred to me to be wary. We hiked for an hour, then had snack & stared at the view. When it came time to go back, he said I had to give him a blow job or he'd leave me out there to find my own way back. We were off trail, I hadn't seen anyone else all day, one of my biggest fears (which I'd told him) was being lost. I said "go to hell" and then wandered around in circles for 2 hrs with him following me. Finally, exhausted & near tears, I gave in, & he made me give him a blow job while kneeling in the mud. After that, he led me to my car. The next day he showed up while my hubby was at work, & when I wouldn't let him in "to apologize", he forced his way in & brutally raped me on my own bed. It took years to heal physically, I have PTSD & trust issues, it changed me as a person.

Dimitri
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

wow,. that deep, and when you take the bus, you will get there.. there is my wisdom for you Ahmed

Ryan Sutherland
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if I find 5 dollars laying in the street ? Is it my five dollars or should I call the police to see who dropped five dollars

Wesley Meade
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's b******t men don't understand and if they don't they must have an extremely low iq you'd have to be so dumb not to understand you should understand these basic principles even when your 10 years of goddamn age

Lady Aleta
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To me: if U really don't understand it, it's because U don't want to! It's because U like there to be a loophole that U can get out of in case U rape someone someday. Finito!

Teri White
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is so difficult to understand about it. What if some gay guy treated them that way...

Inge Berge
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if I'm shitfaced and buy rounds of drinks I can't really afford, my friends really stole from me, because they should have known I wasn't competent to make this decision? Is that how it works, or is "I was drunk" only an excuse if you're a woman?

Nate DiYorio
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, that all makes sense... but here's the part that none of this addressed: If you are drunk, and the guy asks for five bucks, and you are *NOT* too drunk to tell him to buy his own drunk, but instead reach into your purse and hand him five bucks. You have willingly provided this man with five dollars. You were drunk at the time. Is that theft?

Alice P
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when i was 13 ! my friend's uncle try to rape me! because of lack of time and the sudden presence of his sister i could run away!!! but i completely destroyed! now after more than 15 years I don't like men! i never had a relashionship even simple friendships with guys!!! and maybe never can find love with peace!!! part of my happines that day murderde ..iI strugle with depression every few years!!

Deekay Yang
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

look fellas,if ya drug the ladies its rape, they cant say yes or no and if they did still its rape cuz they are not capable of making they're own decision,if they are under 18 its rape,they're not grown enough to make a decision, best way to put this is what if u were a girl,then u will know what they are talking about if u dont understand still then this be the last one,will u let ur daughter go out with a guy like them or u,still dont understand? thats why u live and have the life u do, u know the saying if ur friend is dumb so r u, if he is raping his friends are too, they come in packs

Jay Hurley
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rapists know they're raping. There is no rapist raping someone who is unsure of what they're doing. The only time you have that is when you have these feminists who think you can retroactively withdraw consent and who believe in things like fart rape and stare rape. Sure, when you call things that aren't rape, rape, then you might have some men who "don't get it". But in the real world, where normal people exist, no one is confused about the subject bar a few feminists. Rapists know what rape is and they do it willingly. They're hated by men and women alike. You do not need to educate men on belittle them by assuming they're stupid because of those out there who willingly and knowingly do the wrong thing.

Chris Gen
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, not everywhere. I live in an African country and I can tell you that there are definitely men here who are of the opinion that it's impossible to rape a woman if you are married or in a relationship with her because she owes him sex and he has a right to it. Such men do not view themselves as rapists at all, that label is reserved for men who lurk in shadows attacking strange woman. Education is definitely needed.

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Rok Peternel
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really wonder what % of men are lurking rapists by these peoples standards? You can't blame an entire gender for what certain individuals have done and I will not take it.

Megi Ilp
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Great article! Well written! :) All the haters- open up your hating narrow minds.

Hope Tuttle
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately some guys think rape is still sex and has the same weight and meaning when it doesnt....When damages person physically, emotionally, mentally and socially.. women like myself will never look at men the same, trust them completely, we will question your motives all the time and may never trust you... So before a boy starts saying the woman have issues, baggage, damaged as i hear all the time heck your own footing, look at the mirror make sure its not you... Too many boys in the world, a man doesnt have rape, beat, manipulate, be little, mentally or emotionally abuse a woman... A man will stand and protect her.. Ladies be encouraged and hang in there, but becareful of your surroundings, do your best to make your answers clear, pay attention to your gut. Stayout of certain situations

Peta Hurley-Hill
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The actual things that people have said on here are very true (the first one is brilliant)but as a past victim I find the photo used on the original pop up , very confronting and tasteless.

Steve Rouse
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Simplest way yet... Keep it in your pants until she puts it somewhere else.

Lex Lemon
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are very good points and I hope people who never understood the difference (idk how?!!) now finally understand :) But don't forget!! Men get raped too, and women can rape others!!

Dan McCarthy
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"And to think a man said "Well she sat on his lap & went to his house." Okay, if I ask you to hold my purse, does that mean you can take $?" Well here's her flaw Sat on his lap = held your purse Went to his house = took the $

Un4o1y
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And if you said a man stole $5 dollars from you but he diddnt should you not get the same punishment as he would have for lying your a*s off and ruining his life?

Sherrell Allen
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Call me crazy but as a woman I know rape is never my fault but as a woman I know my limit in drinking and going to strange places where I don't know the people. We can not expect every human to be honest or decent and unless you want a parent or loved one hovering over you don't put yourself into certain situations it just isn't worth it. It's not ok to shrug responsibility onto someone that we hope are decent. It's not worth it. That part is your responsibility and you have to do your best to protect yourself as a preventive measure. Don't leave your purse lying around hoping no takes it.

V Moby
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you don't want to risk being raped, why associated with someone while both under the influence of alcohol? The potential for being raped is high when drunk and isolated with a man who probably not even engaged to you! Remember bad association spoils useful habits. If you associate with drunkards, robbers, to mention a few. You will end up getting involved thereby suffering the consequences.

TheMovement85
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this argument is so weak I can break it with 2 words. Drunk Driving When You drink and drive you're not let go because you can't "consent" to driving.

Cody Collins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Part 3: in the in my daughter was still upset claiming that she was raped. It's hard for most of us men and women to understand how someone can be rape when they've had a send my loving and extremely friendly relationship with each other for a length of time. And men have not been taught how to treat a woman going out on a date a man should not expect sex or even a serious kiss on the first date period but you young people think you're so smart and want to do it all in one night and when it don't pan out on someone has Twisted ideas then people want to scream abuse rape and whatever else. So don't put yourself in a situation where are you know one of you all are expected more than just conversation and yes don't go to a guy's apartment at 2 in the morning and think all you're going to do is just talk and drink coffee take it from a man any man that's a real man is not asking a woman to come home with him to drink coffee and watch the sunrise . So decline the offer and say good night.

Cody Collins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Part 2: so when her date refused to loan her any money the next day she called the police and said she was raped. Gave the police the guys dorm room number and everything so he gets arrested and thrown in jail and doing the investigation the police found out that she was not raped and then the girl confessed that she made it up because she was mad because he promised to loan her some money and after they had sex he changed his mind. So the lady that made the analogy about the $5 that's not always true sometimes a woman is asking for $5 and when the guy says yes you go ahead and later on have sex with him and then when the guy changed his mind and don't want to give you the $5 then you want to scream rape. Just because he said he was going to give you the $5 is not your $5 until we actually put it in your hands. And you women should not be going to bed with men that make promises because promises can be broken. So the police let the guy go with an apology .

Dana Eftodie
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People crying wolf also need strict Pu ushment, but that won't happen with a joke and the penalty thus far...

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Cody Collins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Me and my daughter had this same conversation, during her 3rd year in college. A Girl on campus had cried rape. I asked my daughter to tell me what had happened , she said the campus police issued and alert that a young woman was raped on campus and that the accuser was another student. So the police go and arrest the student the male student and both of these people are Caucasian. Once I found out the circumstances that led up to the alleged rape I immediately told my daughter she was not raped. My daughter hit the roof and started yelling and screaming at me. After she calm down I explain to her why I felt she was not raped. One the young woman had went out to a bar with the guy in a group of friends, the girl got Tipsy and drunk along with everyone else. So she was escorted home or back to her dorm and that was that. The rate that not happened on that night , the next day she went out with the same guy except this time and he told her yes he So later on that night she had sex him.

Jeremy Pitcher
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And If you both get drunk, and you wake up with her 5$, both unaware of you got it, you get to go to jail for raping her :)))))))

Ankit Shrivastava
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I an against rape. But 80% rape cases are fake. Bcoz nw girls are using this stunt to blackmail boys for money and also for some other benefits. And if u r wearing sexy dresses in public place tht is an open iffer to men and if these type girks are raped thn peoples blam on men but society have to see wht tht girl dressed at the time of incident. So pls justify case thn comment

01 02
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

welll.... if im to drunk to know and we talk and have a laugh and you ask me for 5$ and i happily give you 5$ and we have fun and i maybe in the moring i give you another dollar but then the next day i miss my 6$ and i go around telling ppl you stole my 6$ and even take you to court saying i didnt give you the 6$ and you just took it... does that count as rape aswell? if you dont want to have sex with someone THEN DONT

Jacob DeBerg
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you're a little drunk and suddenly become more generous, giving out free $5 bills to some people you know, but then sober up the next day and wished you didn't give away all you cash, this doesn't mean those people suddenly stole from you last night.

faeryedark
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And if you gave some one $5 but regret doing it later, you still GAVE it to them

Thaddeus Spann
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if he is Drunk, and doesn't recall asking for or taking 5 dollars, and you can't recall giving him 5 dollars, but you don't have the 5 dollars and no way to prove he took it? Then it should be. "you both made a stupid decision to get drunk...... "

shawn pfeiffer
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK, so there was a post about giving 5 dollars, but than turning around and saying I stole 5 dollars...THAT IS NOT RAPE, THAT IS D**K REMORSE.

Ben Fuller
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand that that for the most part men are the culprits in this case. But saying men are the the evil parties does paint a black mark on us all. As a man who has been raped I find this very upsetting so, just, please stop putting people like me in the evil category. Please think about and understand what that does.

John Smith
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah but if you said I will give you $5 when really you meant I do not want to give you $5, and the man takes the $5 then this does not give you the right to seek $5,000,000 from a divorce settlement.

John Smith
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah but if you say I will give you $5 when really you meant I don't want to give you $5, and the man takes the $5, this does not give you the right to seek $5,000,000 from a divorce settlement.

Josh Wolf
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, if you give a someone $5 and regret giving him the money later, that's not rape.

Daniel Fisher
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you gave me 5 dollars when you were drunk, then wish you hadn't when sober that does not mean I stole that 5 dollars. That does not mean you can report it as theft to the police.

TheEvilSpoonerr
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's drunk, she's drunk. He asks for $5, she says yes. Next day she doesn't remember saying he could take the $5 and she says he stole it. Is he a thief?

Ian Donovan
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those are all correct and make total sense. Now what if I give you 5 dollars and you give me 5 dollars, but after you decide you want your 5 dollars back, did I still steal your 5 dollars?

teen wolf comedy
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a very good analogy and simple for those that don't understand the basic concept of the first part of how the judicial system has to decipher whether an individual was raped, although it perpetuates that rape cases are simple. Cases that often find themselves in the media are an extension of this analogy and the judicial system must temper the incident against the full analogy. If the girl gives out $5 then regrets it when checking her purse in the morning this is not rape, the girl who tips out her purse and then has to explain why the purse is empty and decides it was all stolen... This is not rape This does happen too and because of that cases are not as simple as the analogy provided. Granted in each analogy above it is rape and i think the vast majority of people undertand that, I think the issue is most people are also aware that some women wrongly accuse men as well making the whole subject a minefield. Great analogy as I say, but lacking the full picture

Bill Mullins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, what she's saying is, she sells a*s for $5? It's hard to tell from her profile picture, but I'm guessing, that's too much.

Michael Collins
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not really give a rat's a*s what women think, since women do no thinking. They have proven to be little more than a parasitic cancer on this planet.

Valentine Sig
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What I find odd is that the social and federal level are a massive double standard. Socially if a man claims rape they are: Humiliated, verbally attacked, mocked, laughed at, insulted, and many times their aggressors face no charge. Since because socially there is a concept that men are "Ok" if a woman forces them to have sex because it's "Cool" or it's a guy thing. Rape is Rape. The sex of the gender should NOT matter. On the Federal level, when a man is accused of rape, they are instantly subjegated to hate before an investigation can begin. Wheen a woman is accused of rape, the man is still bombarded with "Women can't rape" And there are people that believe in that. The sex should not be an argument to excuse rape Rape is Rape. Men and Women can be victims. I sadly think however, men don't have a choice but to create concent forms. Sign them when sober, and refuse until signed. Whether it be wife, girlfriend, hook ups or anything really. Since Concent, isn't honored.

Sara Bailey
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think many WOMEN don't understand what rape actually is. Using her stealing analogy, if she's been drinking and a man asks her for $5 and she reaches into her purse and gives it to him, that's not rape. Even if she regretted giving him that $5 dollars, the next day.

Sajjad Syed
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait a minute, if both of you are drunk and technically gave consent to each other, how is that stealing? "Just because I gave you 5 dollars last time doesn't mean I will give you 5 dollars again". How about putting down the glass and saying no. For guys, respect a woman's right when she says no. For gals, please do the same thing as well and if you aren't sure about something, say no in the first place. You're drunk for god sake, there are bad people in the world who will take advantage of you. How about being an adult and stop boozing.

Curtis Waters
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This woman is what we can 'an idiot' everyone understands what rape is. The problem isn't that people don't know, it is that they don't care. Education won't fix this, women arming and defending themselves will.

James Bryant
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

However if you are so drunk that you drop $5 on the ground. It may still be stealing of someone to take it but you are still the one who dropped it. It's called personal responsibility. You put yourself in a compromising position for any reason and you assume responsibility of the risks. Same as if you break the law. People should be held accountable for their decisions. You decide to get wasted knowing the possible consequences then you have assumed the risk of said action.

Jace
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Congratulations on finding the scenario in which this analogy isn't relevant. The analogy is about consent and the men who don't understand consent. It's not about drunken sexual acts where both people consented and then someone regretted it later.

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Christopher de Serres
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What happens when I feel like i'm entitled to that $5 and I just don't realize I feel that way? I make excuses. I make it all about how you behaved, how you dressed, and what you didn't do to keep me from that $5 that I consider mine.

RJ Silvers
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if someone surprised her with 5$ she wouldn't be happy about it?

Xenonn Ati
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7 years ago

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what i hate is some women saying things like " i wish men understood this" and similar r******d sentences... WE UNDERSTAND... literally WTF ? do you people assume all men are deranged? guess what 99.99% of men wouldn't ever even think about raping someone, the thought doesn't even cross our minds, just like murder, cannibalism, torture etc. doesn't cross a normal person's mind. its only the psychos who do s**t like this.

Master Markus
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She said "some men". I thought very similarly to you but re-read it again to double-check. I think a lot of people who talk about rape seriously try not to deal in absolutes (i.e. All men, all women) because, well, it's horrible exaggeration that will ultimately turn people from your point.

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Hugo Raible
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7 years ago

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When I show you 100$ and you stare at it a long time, you didn't steal it. If you ask me twice or three times to give you 5$ and I finally do, you didn't steal it. If I am drunk and give you 5$, you didn't steal it, even if I regret it the next morning. Analogies are a b***h.

Chris Taylor
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7 years ago

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'men' Because it is only men that commit rape. All men are rapists.

Seth Gecko
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7 years ago

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Rape is being forced into sexual acts against one's will. I understand that. But there are those who confuse rape with the guilty feel of cheating on a lover. Once the accusations are made the damage is done. We need to be accountable for ourselves, avoid situations that place you in danger.

Master Markus
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, avoiding situations that place you in danger is good advice for not having any crime done to you, but rape sometimes happens with people you trust, like family, friends, etc. not just random guys in back alleys and shady clubs.

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ricky angga pratama
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7 years ago

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my girlfriend take off her clothes, is that a rape? i think that she wanted me to,

Alberto Menez
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7 years ago

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You women crave to much attention why put your self in that situation if you don't know the guy get to know him first before you start getting drunk with the dude I respect women's rights I'm all about that but there is some f****d up individual in this world we cannot change the sick minded and they're not all men there is women out there too that are sick minded I know I was a victim from my older sisters.

Amy Hewitt
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did you not read the above? Sober people get raped. People get raped by relatives and partners. Stop blaming the victim. Just because she is drunk doesn't mean she deserves it.

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Jonathan Eatsalot
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7 years ago

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People who don't rape don't care about this advice. People that do rape don't care about this advice. See how that works?

Israel Martinez
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think it's about whether anybody takes the advice or not ... the point is that many perpetrators tend to feign ignorance of what constitutes rape ... by making this go viral, at the very least, lets would-be rapists know that they can no longer feign ignorance ...

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Stano Kaluze
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7 years ago

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"I was so shitfaced last night, that I f****d a total stranger. And now I regret it, so I'll call it rape. Otherwise my gfs would think me a total s**t." Classic xD

dash
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7 years ago

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Most women want to be raped anyway. But no man would risk raping a woman these days. Women are just seeking attention with all the false rape accusations and tweets like these.

Sick Boy
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Following the analogy her "thingy" comes off pretty cheap.

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