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Parents Refuse To Punish Son Who Hospitalized A Super Racist Pupil At School
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Parents Refuse To Punish Son Who Hospitalized A Super Racist Pupil At School

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If you remember, in the movie Captain America: Civil War, one important issue was raised which many viewers almost lost sight of, hidden by the large-scale and spectacular battles of superheroes. And the question is: how appropriate is it for people (or superheroes, it doesn’t matter) to take justice into their own hands?

Steve Rogers was sure that yes, Tony Stark was categorically against the usurpation of state functions. Most of the commenters on this post in the AITAH community on Reddit would seem to be in favor of Iron Man. However, jokes aside – after all, the issue that this post addresses is actually much more serious.

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The author of the post has two kids and the eldest is a 15 Y.O. boy

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The author’s son has a bully in his class whose behavior is really out of any bounds

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The school administration was involved several times but this led actually to nothing

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So recently the bully got beaten severely by some students – and the author’s son as well – ending up in the ICU

So, the Original Poster (OP) and her husband have two children, and the eldest of them, 15 Y.O., is in the same class as the local bully. At least, according to the author of the post, that student regularly insults other children, makes racist remarks, and generally behaves extremely aggressively.

The OP says that the school administration got involved several times, but everything was limited to two short-term suspensions for this student. Now we’ll no longer know what took place there: negligence of the school principal, unwillingness to take decisive measures or something else. The fact remains that the bully clearly felt his impunity.

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And so, one fine day, after the bully shoved one girl in the locker room, her boyfriend fought him – and the girl’s defender was supported by a dozen other students. It took the intervention of several teachers to drag the fighting teenagers off, and in the confusion, several kids managed to escape unrecognized – especially since the cameras in the school are really poor.

The beating inflicted on the bully turned out to be serious – he ended up in the ICU, according to the OP’s words. And the next day, the parents learned with no less horror that their own son was among those participants in the fight who managed to escape. However, the boy was sincerely confident that he’d done the right thing – even despite the outcome of the fight.

And here the parents’ opinions differed – however, about whether it was worth punishing their son for fighting at all. The mother was sure that the bully got what he deserved, but the dad, considering how seriously the boy was beaten, insisted on punishment for his son. The parents probably didn’t even think about the fact that, given everything that has happened, a lawyer is more relevant for the teen than grounding or something of the sort.

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Well, the idea of vigilantism permeates our culture through and through (damn it, I can give you offhand a dozen films or books where the hero administers justice with their own hands, and not one where the hero simply goes to court and brings the matter to justice), so, school vigilantism is a fairly common thing nowadays.

As, unfortunately, is school bullying – just read this post of ours about a dad who recently was terrified by his teen son coming home from school with marks on his hand recording times he was bullied over just 2 days. It is obvious that teachers do not always deal with this problem, and students (and sometimes even parents themselves) take matters into their own hands. And often they only make things worse.

“Vigilante justice and revenge quests have an endless propensity to go wrong and can make matters worse for everyone involved,” BetterHelp psychological clinic’s official website claims. “In some cases, bullies target innocent children or other children because the bully was a victim of abuse or violence in the past. This could be motivated by revenge or an attempt to take back the power that was once stolen from them. Again, this does not excuse the behavior of hurting someone else but is merely an attempt to understand where this behavior could be coming from.”

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But in the case we described, everything has already gone too far – and many commenters try to draw the original poster’s attention to this. “If that kid ends up disabled, or God forbid dies, whether or not he’s a racist, your son is on the hook for that,” someone wrote in the comments.

And there’s really nothing heroic here, the commenters are pretty sure. “People acting like the son is Batman or the Punisher. The son and others beat this guy so hard he’s in the ICU. He may die, never walk again, have permanent brain damage, etc.” another person in the comments ponders. “There are going to be lawsuits and investigations. What happened is absolutely not something to be proud of as a parent.”

Be that as it may, bullying at school is a serious problem of our time, as well as unreasonable vigilante justice, and our society has yet to find effective ways to solve these problems. By the way, what solutions do you, our dear readers, see here?

People in the comments tried to draw the parents’ attention to how inappropriate vigilantism actually is, and to probable consequences for their son too

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After many years of working as sports journalist and trivia game author and host in Ukraine I joined Bored Panda as a content creator. I do love writing stories and I sincerely believe - there's no dull plots at all. Like a great Italian composer Joaquino Rossini once told: "Give me a police protocol - and I'll make an opera out of it!"

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Oleg Tarasenko

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After many years of working as sports journalist and trivia game author and host in Ukraine I joined Bored Panda as a content creator. I do love writing stories and I sincerely believe - there's no dull plots at all. Like a great Italian composer Joaquino Rossini once told: "Give me a police protocol - and I'll make an opera out of it!"

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jdtimid123
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hate me if you want, but there are times when violence is the answer. The kid defending his girlfriend was essentially acting in a sort of "self-defense." I'd be on board with that kids parents defending him. Buuuut the rest of the kids weren't trying to teach a lesson, or protect themselves. They were wanting revenge. A whole group on one kid, to that point, deserves some consequences.

Justin Smith
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not vengeance but punishment. He cause as much painbto the kids in his school as they did to him. His rcist comments to one student could be felt by others of the same race as the student.

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Ali
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The kid who fought back defending his girlfriend may be okay, the other kids, probably not. One could argue the first kid was acting in defense while the others were just piling on. The bully being a shithead doesn't change the fact that he's in the ICU and if this is from the states, which I'm suspecting it is, the parents could be looking down the barrel of a hefty hospital bill that they may sue the families of the attackers to pay off. OP is in some serious trouble

Justin Smith
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Axtually it would be rather hard seeing as this person was a constant bully, who the school did nothing about. In the end it would come down to them refusing to take any action resulting in the students doing what they had felt they needed to.

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Deborah B
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. Your son joined in with a mob of kids and put another kid in the ICU. The fact that that kid was a racist a*****e doesn't protect your son or the other attackers from prosecution. You need to get him counselling and anger management therapy, get him reading ethics, morality and law, and give him some perspective. Help him understand that anger can make you feel powerful and righteous, but anger lies. Anger takes away your judgement, and your control, it takes away your power. Give him guidence now, because this is not about bullying or racism anymore. This is about whether your son becomes the sort of man who pulls the mob back, and says "Let him up, he's had enough." or the the sort that stomps on someone's head and gets 25 to life.

Justin Smith
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone going after the kids for what they did, saying that they are vigilantes and wrong dont understand one big thing. They did everything they were told to do, broguht up the poblems to parents and teachers. The school refused to do anything even though they knew it was going on. This was doing what needed to be done to protect yourself AND OTHERS. People seem to miss that part. This is not some vigilante we see bad thing so we will hurt them. This is no one will do s**t to protect us, so we will. We will protect ourselves and eachother.

BrownTabby
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yupppp. Donโ€™t want people to punch Nazis? Donโ€™t blow people off when they use the appropriate channels. ๐Ÿ˜˜

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Shawna Burt
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good on him, giving the bully a taste of his own medicine! If the school has a problem with this, well... maybe they should have prevented it by DEALING WITH THE BULLY!

Silre
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the school had done their job, this might not have happened. But that's what schools do, out of sight out of mind

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Stormblessed
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both the son and racist jerk are at fault here, but the one group that is the real a*****e is the school. If the son and his friends didn't beat up the kid, that kid could have gone even further and assaulted someone else severely. And the school didn't do anything about it. Of course, it's still wrong to send a kid to the ICU but it may beat some sense into him.

Marno C.
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It honestly sounds like the racist kid was starting to escalate. He was going from name-calling to vandalism and was now at physically assaulting girls. Not saying the mob was right but the 'looking the other way' approach was giving him tacit encouragement to become more aggressive himself.

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Sean Sean
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate to say it, but sometimes violence can be the right answer. If the school didn't handle it, if his parents didn't, then what else can you do but fight back. Either the bully will get the message, or he won't and likely this will happen again. Until either the school, his parents, or himself, changes things.

moggie63
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only thing your son did wrong was not waiting until the bastard was out of school and out of camera s**t.

Giraffy Window
Community Member
9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If this were my kid, I'd not turn him in to the school, but he'd get a serious talking to, lose all privileges at home for a decent length of time, and need to see a professional for a while because joining in on a mob beating is a horrific choice to make. He'd be "Off the hook" this once on confessing to the school, because he felt safe enough to tell me instead of hiding it, and because the kid in question was only able to stirr up so much rage because the school dropped and all but abandoned the ball; if they had handled it properly, it wouldn't have escalated to this. On the hook with ME because bad choices were made and he needs to be punished with a SERIOUS warning that this is his ONE chance. If he did it again, he would be made to face the school and whatever legal steps were put into process from there, as well as home punishments.

Riche White
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one replying mentions that the bully assaulted a girl by pushing her into a locker. They were defending her! The bully got what he deserved! If the school doesn't do anything about the bullying, are the kids just supposed to put up with it?

Sonja
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pushing someone into a locker doesn't deserve being beaten into the emergency room! This is excessive violence. Yes that boy was wrong too. A racist and a bully. But assault is assault. This wasn't self defence and no judge will see it that way in a country you'd like to live in. Two wrongs don't make one right.

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Natalia
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The real AH is the school that allows the bullying in the first place.

Amber Roberts
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like if the parents of the kid didn't realize he was being awful outside the blame on them for not addressing the concerns. Children should absolutely feel like they can defend themselves and if they are not listened to, they have the right to self govern is circumstances. This is an exceptional case. When kids can't reach out for help and are ignored, they will feel the need to help themselves. It's our job as adults to help these kids in the correct manner. It seems to me that this wasn't the care, sadly.

Guess Undheit
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In 2011, Jorge Saavedra stabbed bully Dylan Nuno to death and walked away without charges. Expect kids to act morally in defence of others if the schools continue to do NOTHING to stop bullying. Some wash themselves of responsibility (e.g. Taylor Allderdice High School saying said, "the rape of a disabled girl was off campus, not our responsibility!"). Some "administrations" actively enable it (e.g. Abel Cedeno's self-defence killing of a bully that the school encouraged and protected for years).

เฅBoyGanesh
Community Member
9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My kid doesnโ€™t go a school in our local district, but until 2022/2023 school year they had a zero tolerance policy. If, as an adult, you were walking down the street and someone was calling you bigoted, hateful names then started hitting you, youโ€™d have very reasonable right to defend yourself from harm. Not so much for children in schools with these zero tolerance policies. At a school board meeting, the board members were questioned on their life experiences & if any of them or their loved ones had ever had to physically defend themselves. Or, hypothetically, would they and, if so, would they expect to to serve time for keeping themselves from death or great bodily injury. They argued a child shouldnโ€™t & doesnโ€™t have that right. The superintendent was replaced with one who ended the zero tolerance policy. 2/3 of the school board was also voted out. It took effort & action from parents & the community at large, but now our kids can reasonably defend themselves without fear. Access to a good attorney can help, too. Torts can do what our schools wonโ€™t.

Gale Christensen
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And this kind of nonsense is why that poor innocent teen was beaten to death in Wisconson. No, bullying is not okay. But neither is beating someone so bad they end up in hospital. If anything, this makes your kid even worse than the bully. And it makes you a bad parent. Teahing your kid that problems can be solved with violence isn't doing him or anyone else any favors, and you should be ashamed.

SillyPandaBunny
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The parent made several mistakes. They should never have posted this to begin with as it could be used against their son in the future. They should consult with a lawyer. Instead of punishing their son, they should enroll him in anger management therapy. He commuted assault and need rehabilitation to prevent such action in the future. It will go a long way when this goes to court.

Scott Rackley
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's called an "attitude adjustment" and they used to be handed out back in the day. Deservedly so. It was one at a time though.

Cat Dragon
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good on the son, and good on you for not punishing him. This racist kid kinda deserved that. But I do agree that that post could be used to press charges

Ken Beattie
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Absolutely not good on the son. The bully ended up in ICU. Did you miss that part? Even self defense (where someone attacks you) has conditions on it that you can't respond in a disproportionate manner. Six people beating the living s**t out of a kid is a disproportionate response. The mother is teaching the son to be a bully himself. She's saying it's fine to wait until someone is in a position of weakness then beat the s**t out of him because you don't like what he said. If the kid takes that lesson on board he's going to do worse in future. And that assuming he doesn't face an assault charge for this debacle.

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Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hard NTA. Sounds like that racist trash got what was long time coming, he clearly felt immune to consequences and when the school stopped even trying his peers did it themselves. He might be a terrible pereon but its his parents and the school who are thr real AHs for not preventing this.

DarkViolet
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's understandable when someone defends his friend against a bully. But six against one is cowards' fun. This is not going to end well for anyone. The school administration needs to accept their part of the blame. They could have stopped this long before it was an idea in anyone's mind. This is precisely why some kids go postal, pack a gun, and deal with their tormentors on an extreme level. What would have been the response of the staff, had it escalated to that point? This is a mess that's going to take a long time to straighten out.

Nitka Tsar
Community Member
9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am on the fence on agreeing with you. This case is definitely overkill, but I am not sure I would agree if the villain was a child predator or a serial k i l l e r or something in that lineโ€ฆ Have an upvote, regardless, because I donโ€˜t think you deserved that downvote.

Viv Hart
Community Member
8 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What to do about the bullies, though? In British schools there was a tradition of 'being sent to Coventry' meaning being ignored by all. Whether it helped, I don't know. But bullies are all over, and there should be some sort of system used, to treat it.

Jordan Miller
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it stips a 3rd wrong its fine. Most people who say this dont care about the 1st wrong, and wouldnt care about a 2nd if it came from the same source.

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jdtimid123
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hate me if you want, but there are times when violence is the answer. The kid defending his girlfriend was essentially acting in a sort of "self-defense." I'd be on board with that kids parents defending him. Buuuut the rest of the kids weren't trying to teach a lesson, or protect themselves. They were wanting revenge. A whole group on one kid, to that point, deserves some consequences.

Justin Smith
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not vengeance but punishment. He cause as much painbto the kids in his school as they did to him. His rcist comments to one student could be felt by others of the same race as the student.

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Ali
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The kid who fought back defending his girlfriend may be okay, the other kids, probably not. One could argue the first kid was acting in defense while the others were just piling on. The bully being a shithead doesn't change the fact that he's in the ICU and if this is from the states, which I'm suspecting it is, the parents could be looking down the barrel of a hefty hospital bill that they may sue the families of the attackers to pay off. OP is in some serious trouble

Justin Smith
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Axtually it would be rather hard seeing as this person was a constant bully, who the school did nothing about. In the end it would come down to them refusing to take any action resulting in the students doing what they had felt they needed to.

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Deborah B
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. Your son joined in with a mob of kids and put another kid in the ICU. The fact that that kid was a racist a*****e doesn't protect your son or the other attackers from prosecution. You need to get him counselling and anger management therapy, get him reading ethics, morality and law, and give him some perspective. Help him understand that anger can make you feel powerful and righteous, but anger lies. Anger takes away your judgement, and your control, it takes away your power. Give him guidence now, because this is not about bullying or racism anymore. This is about whether your son becomes the sort of man who pulls the mob back, and says "Let him up, he's had enough." or the the sort that stomps on someone's head and gets 25 to life.

Justin Smith
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone going after the kids for what they did, saying that they are vigilantes and wrong dont understand one big thing. They did everything they were told to do, broguht up the poblems to parents and teachers. The school refused to do anything even though they knew it was going on. This was doing what needed to be done to protect yourself AND OTHERS. People seem to miss that part. This is not some vigilante we see bad thing so we will hurt them. This is no one will do s**t to protect us, so we will. We will protect ourselves and eachother.

BrownTabby
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yupppp. Donโ€™t want people to punch Nazis? Donโ€™t blow people off when they use the appropriate channels. ๐Ÿ˜˜

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Shawna Burt
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good on him, giving the bully a taste of his own medicine! If the school has a problem with this, well... maybe they should have prevented it by DEALING WITH THE BULLY!

Silre
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the school had done their job, this might not have happened. But that's what schools do, out of sight out of mind

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Stormblessed
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both the son and racist jerk are at fault here, but the one group that is the real a*****e is the school. If the son and his friends didn't beat up the kid, that kid could have gone even further and assaulted someone else severely. And the school didn't do anything about it. Of course, it's still wrong to send a kid to the ICU but it may beat some sense into him.

Marno C.
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It honestly sounds like the racist kid was starting to escalate. He was going from name-calling to vandalism and was now at physically assaulting girls. Not saying the mob was right but the 'looking the other way' approach was giving him tacit encouragement to become more aggressive himself.

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Sean Sean
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate to say it, but sometimes violence can be the right answer. If the school didn't handle it, if his parents didn't, then what else can you do but fight back. Either the bully will get the message, or he won't and likely this will happen again. Until either the school, his parents, or himself, changes things.

moggie63
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only thing your son did wrong was not waiting until the bastard was out of school and out of camera s**t.

Giraffy Window
Community Member
9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If this were my kid, I'd not turn him in to the school, but he'd get a serious talking to, lose all privileges at home for a decent length of time, and need to see a professional for a while because joining in on a mob beating is a horrific choice to make. He'd be "Off the hook" this once on confessing to the school, because he felt safe enough to tell me instead of hiding it, and because the kid in question was only able to stirr up so much rage because the school dropped and all but abandoned the ball; if they had handled it properly, it wouldn't have escalated to this. On the hook with ME because bad choices were made and he needs to be punished with a SERIOUS warning that this is his ONE chance. If he did it again, he would be made to face the school and whatever legal steps were put into process from there, as well as home punishments.

Riche White
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one replying mentions that the bully assaulted a girl by pushing her into a locker. They were defending her! The bully got what he deserved! If the school doesn't do anything about the bullying, are the kids just supposed to put up with it?

Sonja
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pushing someone into a locker doesn't deserve being beaten into the emergency room! This is excessive violence. Yes that boy was wrong too. A racist and a bully. But assault is assault. This wasn't self defence and no judge will see it that way in a country you'd like to live in. Two wrongs don't make one right.

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Natalia
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The real AH is the school that allows the bullying in the first place.

Amber Roberts
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like if the parents of the kid didn't realize he was being awful outside the blame on them for not addressing the concerns. Children should absolutely feel like they can defend themselves and if they are not listened to, they have the right to self govern is circumstances. This is an exceptional case. When kids can't reach out for help and are ignored, they will feel the need to help themselves. It's our job as adults to help these kids in the correct manner. It seems to me that this wasn't the care, sadly.

Guess Undheit
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In 2011, Jorge Saavedra stabbed bully Dylan Nuno to death and walked away without charges. Expect kids to act morally in defence of others if the schools continue to do NOTHING to stop bullying. Some wash themselves of responsibility (e.g. Taylor Allderdice High School saying said, "the rape of a disabled girl was off campus, not our responsibility!"). Some "administrations" actively enable it (e.g. Abel Cedeno's self-defence killing of a bully that the school encouraged and protected for years).

เฅBoyGanesh
Community Member
9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My kid doesnโ€™t go a school in our local district, but until 2022/2023 school year they had a zero tolerance policy. If, as an adult, you were walking down the street and someone was calling you bigoted, hateful names then started hitting you, youโ€™d have very reasonable right to defend yourself from harm. Not so much for children in schools with these zero tolerance policies. At a school board meeting, the board members were questioned on their life experiences & if any of them or their loved ones had ever had to physically defend themselves. Or, hypothetically, would they and, if so, would they expect to to serve time for keeping themselves from death or great bodily injury. They argued a child shouldnโ€™t & doesnโ€™t have that right. The superintendent was replaced with one who ended the zero tolerance policy. 2/3 of the school board was also voted out. It took effort & action from parents & the community at large, but now our kids can reasonably defend themselves without fear. Access to a good attorney can help, too. Torts can do what our schools wonโ€™t.

Gale Christensen
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And this kind of nonsense is why that poor innocent teen was beaten to death in Wisconson. No, bullying is not okay. But neither is beating someone so bad they end up in hospital. If anything, this makes your kid even worse than the bully. And it makes you a bad parent. Teahing your kid that problems can be solved with violence isn't doing him or anyone else any favors, and you should be ashamed.

SillyPandaBunny
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The parent made several mistakes. They should never have posted this to begin with as it could be used against their son in the future. They should consult with a lawyer. Instead of punishing their son, they should enroll him in anger management therapy. He commuted assault and need rehabilitation to prevent such action in the future. It will go a long way when this goes to court.

Scott Rackley
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's called an "attitude adjustment" and they used to be handed out back in the day. Deservedly so. It was one at a time though.

Cat Dragon
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good on the son, and good on you for not punishing him. This racist kid kinda deserved that. But I do agree that that post could be used to press charges

Ken Beattie
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Absolutely not good on the son. The bully ended up in ICU. Did you miss that part? Even self defense (where someone attacks you) has conditions on it that you can't respond in a disproportionate manner. Six people beating the living s**t out of a kid is a disproportionate response. The mother is teaching the son to be a bully himself. She's saying it's fine to wait until someone is in a position of weakness then beat the s**t out of him because you don't like what he said. If the kid takes that lesson on board he's going to do worse in future. And that assuming he doesn't face an assault charge for this debacle.

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Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hard NTA. Sounds like that racist trash got what was long time coming, he clearly felt immune to consequences and when the school stopped even trying his peers did it themselves. He might be a terrible pereon but its his parents and the school who are thr real AHs for not preventing this.

DarkViolet
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's understandable when someone defends his friend against a bully. But six against one is cowards' fun. This is not going to end well for anyone. The school administration needs to accept their part of the blame. They could have stopped this long before it was an idea in anyone's mind. This is precisely why some kids go postal, pack a gun, and deal with their tormentors on an extreme level. What would have been the response of the staff, had it escalated to that point? This is a mess that's going to take a long time to straighten out.

Nitka Tsar
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am on the fence on agreeing with you. This case is definitely overkill, but I am not sure I would agree if the villain was a child predator or a serial k i l l e r or something in that lineโ€ฆ Have an upvote, regardless, because I donโ€˜t think you deserved that downvote.

Viv Hart
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8 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What to do about the bullies, though? In British schools there was a tradition of 'being sent to Coventry' meaning being ignored by all. Whether it helped, I don't know. But bullies are all over, and there should be some sort of system used, to treat it.

Jordan Miller
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it stips a 3rd wrong its fine. Most people who say this dont care about the 1st wrong, and wouldnt care about a 2nd if it came from the same source.

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