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Anti-Vaxxer Thinks She’s Done Her Research And ‘Facts’ Are On Her Side, Turns Out She’s Debating With A Neuroscientist
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Anti-Vaxxer Thinks She’s Done Her Research And ‘Facts’ Are On Her Side, Turns Out She’s Debating With A Neuroscientist

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The importance of vaccinating your children can’t be stressed enough. Especially nowadays, when the anti-vaxxer community is growing thanks to Illuminati-tier conspiracy theories that keep spreading like viruses.

Anti-vaxxers and people with at least an ounce of common sense simply screaming at each other won’t get us anywhere. What helps is arguing with a good dose of logic, as well as a dash of sass. When one anti-vaxxer showed his anger than an unvaccinated kid was kicked out of school in New York, people couldn’t help but reply. When another anti-vaxxer then exclaimed that vaccines supposedly have mercury and other dangerous materials in them, a woman on Twitter, who uses the handle such_A_frknlady and describes herself as a neuroscientist, shut the argument down with cold logic.

If you’re in the mood to read some more of Bored Panda’s posts about anti-vaxxers, here’s one about the most entertaining responses to anti-vaxxers. Here’s another about people trolling anti-vaxxers with memes. And a third one about how the internet delivered when an anti-vaxxer mom asked how to protect her 3-year-old from the measles outbreak.

One anti-vaxxer blamed lawmakers and ‘Big Pharma’ for a kid being ‘kicked out of school’ for not being vaccinated

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One Twitter user couldn’t help but make a joke

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Another anti-vaxxer alleged that vaccines have mercury in them…

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…causing the social media user who claims to have a PhD in neuroscience to hit back with logic

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According to anti-vaxxer mexico_maamii, everyone who vaccinates their children is ‘ignorant.’ But Twitter user such_A_frknlady, who in her bio says she’s Dr. Animoji Avi, a neuroscientist, said that every single kid vaccinated in the ‘last several decades’ would have been poisoned or killed if vaccines did, in fact, contain the incredibly dangerous materials that anti-vaxxers claim they do.

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Most social media users were supportive of Dr. Avi’s sassy comeback. However, one Reddit user questioned whether such_A_frknlady does, in fact, have a PhD, considering that she had previously used a Twitter nickname that would cause lots of outrage if we actually wrote it out in this post. Other Reddit users said that it doesn’t matter that a professor has a ‘funny social life,’ as long as she’s fighting anti-vaxxers online.

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Across England, childhood vaccinations for 13 diseases have been falling year after year, a recent article from The Guardian warns. The United Kingdom saw a drop in MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) immunization, which led the country to lose its measles-free status. However, the British seem to be losing confidence in all vaccinations, not just the MMR jab.

Outbreaks are prevented when at least 95 percent of a country’s population is immunized. Unfortunately, in England, the rate of immunized children who are 24 months old dropped from 91.2 percent in 2017-2018 to only 90.3 percent in 2018-2019. This is the direct result of misinformation in the media and online.

Dear Pandas, what do you think of such_A_frknlady’s argument with the anti-vaxxer? What is the worst anti-vaxxer conspiracy that you’ve heard? What arguments would you use to explain to skeptics that vaccinations are an absolute must? Share your thoughts with us in the comments.

Here is how people reacted to the argument on Twitter

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Aria Clarke
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK honestly? It's not the kids fault. At all. It's the parents, who haven't bothered to educate themselves and decide to listen to only a selection of twisted facts (if they can even be called 'facts'). But I feel TERRIBLE for the kid, who isn't being supported by his parents (clearly) and isn't able to get help from others because he is still a minor and under care from his parents. And because of his parents, he isn't able to get an education and will most likely fall ill very soon. None of this was his fault, and yet he is the one being treated with the consequences. PLEASE VACCINATE YOUR KIDS. It is the school's main responsibility to educate kids and KEEP THEM SAFE. These laws are necessary (as sad as they are for the kids) but if your decisions turn your child into a hazard, you are endangering both you, your child and everyone around you. Don't flip this into others.

Imajin_A_Shön
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is child abuse as far as I'm concerned. Not only because they didn't vaccinate the poor child but also because they are causing him to feel such avoidable emotional pain and most likely indoctrinating him to distrust and potentially not vaccinate his own future children, if he lives long enough to have them. He's too young to understand why he can't go to school with his friends. That is maddening.

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misteriosa
Community Member
5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Out of all idiocies that leave their mouths and keyboards, "why are you worried bcs of my unvaccinated child, your children are vaccinated" triggers me the most; ok, my 2 children are vaccinated (let's not mention statistics and possibility that vaccinated children CAN get the disease as well because their brains can't comprehend that), but I have another one, the youngest one, who can't be vaccinated because of other medical conditions, so she solely relies on herd immunity and directly depends on others, so she will be directly affected because of your stupidity. Mine and so many other children and babies, preemies, immunocompromised ones, ones with weak immunity, leukemia, allergies, cancer and other conditions and illnesses, babies who aren't old enough to receive a vaccine... all of them are compromised because you (and your partners) decided to be idiots and believe every conspiracy theory you come across. I'd have a lot more to say on the topic, but u'd have to excuse my French.

Kathy Baylis
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That’s where my mind went too. Yes, the vaccinated kids can pick up a bug that’s going around and survive, but before they’re sent home from school, there’s also the risk that, just like the unvaccinated kids, they’ve passed it on to other people they’ve come in contact with up to that point; their friends, their parents, their siblings, their teachers, anyone else they’ve been around—-and those people also risk passing it on to people they’ve encountered, and so on. In other words, any disease that the unvaccinated introduce will not be isolated to the school grounds, but have a ripple effect into the community and beyond. This is what anti-vaxxers chronically fail to understand. It’s not just about themselves and the effect of “herd immunity” (which was achieved through widespread use of vaccinations, btw) on their own kids; it’s about containment of potentially epidemic diseases for everybody.

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Hans
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What terrible parents must you be? Out of uneducating and ignorance not vaccinating your child because you truly believe it is better is one thing. Using a picture of your child on public social media to fish for sympathy is another. It is despicable and pathetic!

Monika Soffronow
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My art teacher in High school had a bad leg from having had polio as a child. I remember both the fever hallucinations I had and how I kept hammering my heels on the wooden bed board to try to make the pain worse than the itching when I had measles as a five or six-year-old. When I caught chickenpox at twenty, I ended up at the emergency ward at the hospital, a 60 something acquaintance of my parents died of it at the same time. And yes, I remember that you could not travel abroad to many countries unless you could prove that you had been vaccinated for smallpox. Because of vaccinations, smallpox was eradicated by 1980!

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Aria Clarke
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK honestly? It's not the kids fault. At all. It's the parents, who haven't bothered to educate themselves and decide to listen to only a selection of twisted facts (if they can even be called 'facts'). But I feel TERRIBLE for the kid, who isn't being supported by his parents (clearly) and isn't able to get help from others because he is still a minor and under care from his parents. And because of his parents, he isn't able to get an education and will most likely fall ill very soon. None of this was his fault, and yet he is the one being treated with the consequences. PLEASE VACCINATE YOUR KIDS. It is the school's main responsibility to educate kids and KEEP THEM SAFE. These laws are necessary (as sad as they are for the kids) but if your decisions turn your child into a hazard, you are endangering both you, your child and everyone around you. Don't flip this into others.

Imajin_A_Shön
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is child abuse as far as I'm concerned. Not only because they didn't vaccinate the poor child but also because they are causing him to feel such avoidable emotional pain and most likely indoctrinating him to distrust and potentially not vaccinate his own future children, if he lives long enough to have them. He's too young to understand why he can't go to school with his friends. That is maddening.

Load More Replies...
misteriosa
Community Member
5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Out of all idiocies that leave their mouths and keyboards, "why are you worried bcs of my unvaccinated child, your children are vaccinated" triggers me the most; ok, my 2 children are vaccinated (let's not mention statistics and possibility that vaccinated children CAN get the disease as well because their brains can't comprehend that), but I have another one, the youngest one, who can't be vaccinated because of other medical conditions, so she solely relies on herd immunity and directly depends on others, so she will be directly affected because of your stupidity. Mine and so many other children and babies, preemies, immunocompromised ones, ones with weak immunity, leukemia, allergies, cancer and other conditions and illnesses, babies who aren't old enough to receive a vaccine... all of them are compromised because you (and your partners) decided to be idiots and believe every conspiracy theory you come across. I'd have a lot more to say on the topic, but u'd have to excuse my French.

Kathy Baylis
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That’s where my mind went too. Yes, the vaccinated kids can pick up a bug that’s going around and survive, but before they’re sent home from school, there’s also the risk that, just like the unvaccinated kids, they’ve passed it on to other people they’ve come in contact with up to that point; their friends, their parents, their siblings, their teachers, anyone else they’ve been around—-and those people also risk passing it on to people they’ve encountered, and so on. In other words, any disease that the unvaccinated introduce will not be isolated to the school grounds, but have a ripple effect into the community and beyond. This is what anti-vaxxers chronically fail to understand. It’s not just about themselves and the effect of “herd immunity” (which was achieved through widespread use of vaccinations, btw) on their own kids; it’s about containment of potentially epidemic diseases for everybody.

Load More Replies...
Hans
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What terrible parents must you be? Out of uneducating and ignorance not vaccinating your child because you truly believe it is better is one thing. Using a picture of your child on public social media to fish for sympathy is another. It is despicable and pathetic!

Monika Soffronow
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My art teacher in High school had a bad leg from having had polio as a child. I remember both the fever hallucinations I had and how I kept hammering my heels on the wooden bed board to try to make the pain worse than the itching when I had measles as a five or six-year-old. When I caught chickenpox at twenty, I ended up at the emergency ward at the hospital, a 60 something acquaintance of my parents died of it at the same time. And yes, I remember that you could not travel abroad to many countries unless you could prove that you had been vaccinated for smallpox. Because of vaccinations, smallpox was eradicated by 1980!

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