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I have a huge business opportunity that you’re going to love! You’ll be earning six figures, have flexible hours and be able to work from anywhere in the world. All you have to do is invest $5,000 up front, and I guarantee that you’ll earn it back in no time!

If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. But unfortunately, plenty of people fall for scams every single day. Whether it’s a “Nigerian prince” sliding into their DMs or a grandchild begging Nana to cover their hospital bills, scams are running rampant all over the globe. To raise awareness for some of these schemes, Redditors have recently been discussing common scams people fall victim to, as well as things that are absolute wastes of money. Enjoy scrolling through this list, and be sure to upvote the things you would never give a dollar to! 

#1

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Prosperity Gospel Preachers.

Battarray:

Specifically Joel Osteen and his ilk. They're why we should be taxing performative mega-churches like they live off of.

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iseefractals
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of them. Not just the greediest mega churches. All of them. Housing every homeless person in the U.S would cost $20 billion per year. The sum total untaxed money taken in by churches each year in the U.S , is $75 billion. Churches could fund those housing costs, and give every one of the 550,000 homeless people in the U.S a salary of $31,000 a year, and they'd still have $37.5 billion left over.

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#2

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Religion.

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Anton Burger
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23 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am always taken aback how anti-religion this site is, and specifically anti-Christian this site is. It seems that when it comes to religion, this site is a free for all to say what they please. I've never seen so much hate spread in the name of anti-religion as on this site.

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“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Health insurance in America. Paying $400 monthly only to still have a $5000 deductible and argue with insurance companies about 'in-network' doctors. It's basically paying for the privilege of paying more.

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TCW Sam Vimes
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21 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The USA is insane on several levels. This is in the top three. Right after selling guns to every idiot and what they call election system where the wealthy buy the president they want.

Paul kark
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23 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also dental insurance. Paying $200 a months and they pay $1000. People don’t realize they are paying $2400 to get $1000

Montanavanna
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21 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The worst part about dental coverage is the cosmetic designation for repairs that are vital to your health. My bite structure is effed but it costs too much to repair at the moment. Sure I can go without eating, having teeth is purely for cosmetic purposes anyway.

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David
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15 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sad thing is, the example above is understating rather than overstating. Around 2010 I was paying $250 / month for an umbrella policy. I pay first $2,500 but insurance was there in case I had something major like a heart attack. Within a few years (and when I dropped it) they were charging me over $500 / month AND they raised the deductible to $7,500. for the past 10 years or so I've been on state medical and due to age, soon medicare.

Eduardo
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15 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm self-employed paying for a blue cross plan. $3,200.oo per month. Family of five.

g90814
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19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nevermind we pay 2x for healthcare than most other countries. Universal healthcare would help this, as all costs would be negotiated the same. but nooooooo its SOCIALISM! But don't touch my social security or medicare!

Shane S
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10 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not disagreeing. Just posing the question. How can we estimate as a country what we will spend in healthcare when the past 30 years or so, we have been trained to not go to the dr? We have a mental health crisis in our country but the average age of psychiatry is 50. Thoughts?

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Captain McSmoot
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23 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact that we have to pay near $10,000 out of pocket ($400 monthly x 12 months + $5,000 deductible) before insurance ensures us that we will be taken care of is ridiculous!

Shane S
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21 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup. And being mad at the insurance company sure takes the pressure off your employer for not offering a better, more expensive plan, not paying more of the premium on your behalf, or not paying you more so that you can more easily afford the deductible. But hey, insurance companies, am I right?

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Lew k
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23 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And it keeps getting worse. Insurance 20-30 years ago was much cheaper and covered everything. I broke my foot badly in the early 2000sand had multiple surgeries and dozens of doctors visits and my out of pocket cost was probably 250$ mostly co-pays an prescription. 2 years ago I went to the emergency room for chest pains and with my low deductible plan it was 1500$ out of pocket for an ekg and a bag of fluids. On top of that they treat you like garbage. I sat in a room for 7 hours waiting for someone to come tell me that nothing was wrong and go see your primary. Its nothing but a giant cash grab in the US.

Susann
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13 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love my country Switzerland, but honestly we have an insane health insurance system. Obviously not as bad as the US and you would never be turned away, but I pay CHF 640 a month for basic insurance, then have a franchise of CHF 300. And because I was born sick they won't give me complimentary insurance and definitely not dental.

Jeff Hunt
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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Addressing the elephant in the room. The Affordable Care Act was supposed to solve some of this. It has only been made worse.

S
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15 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't forget most insurance only pays 70-80% of any costs. Look up the top ten most profitable businesses in the US and 4/5 are medical insurance companies. It's a total scandal.

Tommy DePaul
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12 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dentist. They're the richest. They get paid like doctors but don't get sued.

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Blondie23
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21 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

and if you don't have health insurance and just pay cash you risk getting bad treatment!!!!

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You don’t have to have a deductible. Plans with no deductibles exist. No one just wants to pay for them, including employers. You get what you pay for. This is why Union members often have no deductible or low deductibles. They collectively bargain for a better deal and the insurance companies can’t turn them away when they want a big account with lots of paying members. But doctors, employers, and hospitals have done a great job making insurance companies the bad guy when the whole system is to blame. I love my insurance. It’s expensive with a deductible but when I compare what I’m paying as opposed to the thousands they are paying, it’s a deal for me.

Mike Crow
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about universal healthcare? You pay a lot less compared to insurance and you never have to worry about losing your house.

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To find out how this conversation started in the first place, we reached out to HurtHurtsMe, the Reddit user who posed the question, "What do you consider to be the biggest scam?” They were kind enough to have a chat with Bored Panda and explain what inspired them to start this thread.

"With the holiday season and change in weather, it’s hard seeing clothing prices jump around," the author shared. "A jacket could be $50 original price but on sale for $22. Then the next day, it’s the lowest price of the season sale! 50% off. Same jacket is marked back to $50 with 50% off to equal $25. If you are not actively stalking pricing, you could get scammed into what you think is a good deal based on retail messaging."

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#5

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Funerals, weddings, and pretty much every other thing we blindly accept have to be insanely expensive without even thinking about it.

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Nikole
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1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

THIS. They’re completely taking advantage of people in a vulnerable state. Edit: the funeral part

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#6

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Having to pay for daily parking at your place of employment.

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Barong
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In many cities the parking lots are owned by a company unaffiliated with the businesses surrounding it. Hopefully your employer has arrangements for parking validation.

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When it comes to what the OP considers to be the biggest scam, they shared, "Higher Education costs are outrageous."

On average, it costs students in the United States $108,584 to attend college for 4 years, and they can spend even more if they go to school outside of their home state or at a private university.

#7

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into I think unrealistic beauty standards pushed by media are the biggest scam.

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Nikole
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m glad I didn’t grow up in an era of fillers and filters… Just good, old fashioned eating disorders! (Kind of a joke but kind of not.)

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#8

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into "Detoxing" your gut/armpits/body. Your body does it for you if you're a healthy individual. Most of the bacteria in your gut is beneficial and necessary.

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We were also curious what the author thought of the replies to their post. "I agree that eye glasses costs are a scam," HurtHurtsMe said.

And as far as avoiding scams, the OP recommends that consumers do their own research "and not take things at face value."

#11

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Tipping and tip workers, tip shame, tip expectations.

THE_Lena:

This! Their income should be paid by their employer not the customer.

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Nathaniel He/Him Cis-Het
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1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You should only tip for exceptional service and if you can afford it. A £20 or $20 meal should be just that, no extra for a tip needed.

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#12

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Organic food in the U.S.

The regulations have been so watered down as to be meaningless….

Leading_Preparation6:

Happy to see this. It was my thesis topic and it’s definitely not what people think it is. Buy the “cheaper” version or grow your own because the USDA organic label means next to nothing.

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Mason Kronol
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I still don’t understand the “organic” section in produce at our local grocery store it upsells looks the same or worse than everything else and isn’t labeled on where it came from.

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#13

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Printer ink. My printer cost $50 but replacing all the cartridges costs $75. Make it make sense.

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Barong
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep typical Razor and blades business model. Same with many pod based coffee machines. So much waste, so much plastic. Bought a an epson et 5880 eco tank printer and it was significantly more expensive than printers with cartridges, but I have less waste, ink is cheap and interchangeable with aftermarket inks so could be even cheaper and it’s a great printer. Great business printer. Almost as fast as our laser printer.

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#14

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Multi level marketing schemes. We have literally so much information now about how they are predatory. It’s disgusting how a lot of them target low income mothers who feel guilty about spending time away from home to work and earn a living.

life-love:

Not gonna lie, I attended one of those pyramid scheme meetings at my friend's insistence and man it was filled with low-income people and the whole thing was clearly targeted at them. Felt really bad seeing how they were being sold dreams of earning a lot of money and stuff. Such a scam.

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16 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a blissfully unaware late teen/early 20s jobseeker who found a really great deal selling knives. And if I got some of my friends and family to buy my knives, they could also learn to sell them! And I'd even get some of the money they made! My parents had to explain what, exactly, the problem was.

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#15

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into The Mormon "Church" - check out the r/exmormon subreddit for more details.

It is a real estate and securities hedge fund masquerading as a church in order to maintain tax exemption.

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iseefractals
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They're all scams. It's absolutely insane to me that 30 years on from everyone finding out that the catholic church was (and continues to be) complicit in child molestation for....like 70 years. All the nuns stealing, selling, and either killing or covering up the deaths of babies. Missionaries going to africa during the aids crisis, telling them that condoms are sinful while also handing out injectable meds/vaccines.....while using the same dirty needles for who knows how many people at a time. Every single religion is filled with one horrific story after another.

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#16

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Fake, RICH celebrities on Facebook begging for money.

cbostwick94:

The number of times "Vin Diesel" has confessed his love to my mother on Facebook is wild. Man has a LOT of accounts

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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Family is important to "Vin", so he has an account for every family he has

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#17

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into My stepfather texted me a year ago saying "your mom and I won a lottery, we just need to go to the store to get some cards to pay for the taxes". Like cmon man, I know you are smarter than this. Thankfully enough all I had to do is ask him why would they make you use gift cards to pay taxes instead of just paying the IRS? He immediately connected the dots.

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Melissa Harris
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did you also tell him to make an appointment with his doctor? First signs of cognitive decline and dementia is often falling for obvious scams that a oetson wouldn't have previously.

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#18

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into The email/text “this is the United Postal Service, your package has been delayed, we need you to verify name, address, and card information for delivery” gotten those dozens of times when I don’t have any packages on the way, but a ton of friends have fallen for it.

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Child of the Stars
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've recently started getting similar texts about my "order from Amazon" being canceled because of "the seller's reason." I haven't used my Amazon account since I canceled my Prime subscription 3 years ago.

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#19

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into That one where you get a random “wrong number” text from a gorgeous woman who wants to get to know you. I promise no actual women want to get to know a random stranger they accidentally texted.

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Bob Brooce
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Generally very good advice. It was before texting was a thing, but a glass artist named Josh Simpson (makes some amazing stuff) once answered a wrong number call from a woman who happens to be an astronaut. I've never found out exactly how the call went, but they're married. I'm not sure if he was already making his "planets" before that, but a lot of his work is inspired by space. Untitled-6...ae95d1.jpg Untitled-6740167ae95d1.jpg

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#20

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Paying money to the “IRS” in the form of Apple gift cards.

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iseefractals
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

and after you've done that, kindly send an eight ball and a couple hookers to this no-tell motel.....or you'll be audited.

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#21

Literally anything related to the slimy Kenneth Copeland Ministries. That guy is one of the biggest con artists, if not THE biggest, to ever exist in this country.

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#22

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Amway, Herbalife and any pseudo-pharma-sounding c**p.

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22 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My darling cousin has been pushing keto products on instagram for some MLM scheme for 6 years. First she sold for that stupid "sharp forever" MLM knife company, then it was the romantic sex product MLM company, then it was a different crash diet MLM..... my poor cousin just doesnt understand how she isn't 1. Losing weight on these MLM crash diet companies and 2. Isnt getting promoted or making the money these companies promise she will make.

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#23

Payday loans. The interest rates are atrocious. They prey on the poor.

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23 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel the same way about rent-a-center. I get it is helpful to some who need things but can't afford them but the over charging is ridiculous. If you could just put aside the amount they want you to pay weekly/monthly you can buy what you need in a few week or months instead of paying $1000 for a $100 product.

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#24

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Chiropractors. I’ve personally cared for two patients with vertebral artery dissections from chiro adjustments. I’ve known one other outside of work.

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Nikki van Reenen
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've had 2 cervical fusions and my doctor told me to stay away from chiropractors because they would cripple me.

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#25

Ticketmaster.

GrumpyCoo:

Ticketmaster is one of the primary reasons I stopped going to concerts...

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#26

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into “Contractors” that show up to your door unsolicited telling you they’ll do work on your house for super cheap. *Especially* those “working in the area.”

Do your homework on anyone working on your house. Make sure they’re licensed, insured, permitted to work in your state etc.

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#27

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into The Nigerian prince emails.

dude_stfu:

These are intentionally ridiculous / over-the-top / filled with errors. They don’t want to go back and forth with the 99% of people who can sniff out relatively obvious bulls**t. They want that rare, vulnerable 1% who will take the bait and believe it. Phishing is a science.

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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what people don't realise. Predators seek out vulnerable prey. They are after people with learning difficulties, dementia, mental health problems, brain injuries, and those that are vulnerable due to loneliness or grief. When people say 'if you fall for it you deserve to be scammed' they are imagining someone like themselves.

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#28

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into When people say invest in Cryptocurrency.


I'll tell them let me know when you can buy anything in the store or online with it.

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#30

Buying new iPhones. They’re extremely overpriced.

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#31

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Healing crystals. If anything, they've become even more popular recently.

Edit: Having said that, I *have* seen them be very effective as tools to effect introspection and discussion about mental health, basically operating as a fun, dialectical abstraction of psychological concepts that might be too complicated or daunting to address directly. But it's a slippery slope to letting this abstraction become a real, significant part of how you live your life.

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#32

"Don’t forget tomorrow starts the new Facebook rule where they can use your photos. Don't forget Deadline today!!! It can be used in court cases in litigation against you. Everything you've ever posted becomes public from today Even messages that have been deleted or the photos not allowed. It costs nothing for a simple copy and paste, better safe than sorry”.

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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Then people post on their profile “I do not consent to Facebook using my images” etc like it’s a legal document

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#33

“We Have Literally So Much Information Now”: 35 Massive Scams People Are Still Buying Into Being green.

top 10 corporations produce 90% of the pollution. but it always falls on the citizen to be green! buy an ev you can’t afford!!

if everyone is pissing in the pool besides you, are you making a difference?

and i don’t mean to litter freely, everyone should 110% do their part. BUT. it’s crazy to think/ask citizens to completely change their routine day to day life while you still move on private jets/ motorcades.


for those of you jay don’t know. i drive a diesel F250. a new one with modern emission systems. every 5k ish miles i have to buy DEF(Diesel exhaust fluid) for my emissions right?

it comes in a 2.5 gallon plastic jug. with a plastic nosel thats wrapped in plastic in a cardboard box.. so how f*****g much am i helping?… (this is a required chemical on all diesels 2011? 2010? and newer.

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Shane S
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Manufacturers put everything in plastic but then make the consumer feel responsible for recycling it. They have passed the guilt onto us and we just accept it.

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#34

How about the scam I fell for :( The fraud department of my bank calling me, alerting me to fraudulent charges happening on my card. I’ve had my identity stolen before, so I wasn’t surprised snd was just grateful they found the charges early on. I googled the number and it was the same # as my bank.

They had identifying info about me that not just anyone would have and asked me verifying questions after that my bank asks me any time I have called them before. It was so, so believable and I was already in a stressed mental state prior to the call. When I called my bank directly the next day, even the employee told me it was legitimate. It wasn’t until I called again that an employee dug into their logs of texts/calls to me that they determined it was fake. Luckily, I was only out about 1.5 hours of my time in total with talking to the scammer, changing card and bank numbers, updating accounts, etc and didn’t lose a dime.

Main lesson I learned: If your bank calls you for ANY reason, hang up and call them directly. Don’t be dumb like me.

Edited to add: When they were sending me texts to verify things / help me add the card alerts to my phone, the confirmation texts came from a number that I’ve gotten legitimate texts from my bank before. They’re too smart!!

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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My "bank" called me about something "suspicious" and wanted my bank info. I said i wasn't comfortable sharing that info when i was being called by a blocked number. She told me that was fine, and that i should call my bank and clear it up. I did. She was real, and there was something suspicious, which we cleared up, but i told them that having someone call like that was insane.

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#35

Homeopathy.

Carliebeans:

Right?! My Dad has a friend with serious health issues. He’s under the care of traditional western medicine which has saved his life, and he also has his homeopathic ‘potions’. Guess what he credits for his health?

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Rafael
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14 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Homeopathy has one (and ONLY one) thing going for it, in that the "doctor" treat their patients with respect and care - it is one of their "dogmas", it seems. Considering that most patients have no idea how homeopathy supposedly "works", the placebo effect plus the "therapy" session with a trusted "doctor" might in fact produce some results. This is not to condone homeopathy in any way, there are still big bucks preying on ignorance, but our real "western" medicine could learn a thing or two about the value of respect towards the patient.

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