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There are certain things that, if we value peace and quiet, we don’t talk about. Namely the holy trinity of topics which are musical taste, politics, and religion. But here we are, talking about religion.

But instead of preaching, the lovely people of Reddit are sharing stories of experiences that made them drastically rethink the whole concept of faith, losing it in the process.

In particular, this thread has been going viral lately after someone asked folks to share what exactly ruined religion for people, and getting over 48,600 upvotes with nearly 39,000 comments along the way.

So, sit back, relax, and read through the frustration that is losing one’s religion in our curated list of the best answers below. And while you’re at it, poke that upvote button, comment your own opinions and stories and whatnot, and consider checking out any other question from Reddit that we’ve discussed here.

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#1

30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group As a kid, it was boring. As a teen, it brought nothing into my life. As an adult, it's hard to ignore all the corruption, greed, sexual improprieties and contradiction.

Ultimately, if there was a god, this is the best it can do? I'm not impressed.

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DennyS (denzoren)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to agree with your sentiments. I always wonder the same....especially like, why are babies born with diseases and pain? They did nothing to deserve that....why are children being killed daily? They have done nothing wrong.

Who Panda 420
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes and I believe the explanation that he's just testing us is cruel. I wouldn't want that kind of Creator and I would never bow down to that kind of King.

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Trond Øien
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

God or no God, a large percentage of his/her ground crew sucks imho.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“ Ultimately, if there was a god, this is the best it can do? I'm not impressed.” Wise words!

Daria Z
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, well, I'm generally OK with faith and believers but won't have religion anywhere near me.

Huddo's sister
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm curious, what do you define as religion then? Do you mean the specific rites and rituals or the actual church denominations? Because I would define religion as belief in something (which would include agnostic, as opposed to atheist). If it's the bigotry and prejudice you have a problem with, then that is not necessarily the religion.

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Don't Look
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a kid, it was lost on me. As a teen, it was something to belong to (acolyte, handbells, choir, youth group…). But my dad said something to me that I couldn’t let go of. “It’s just a stage. You’re putting on a show.” And while he merely meant that as a perspective, literally all the magic was gone.

Richard A Petro
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can remember the day in Catholic School, Fifth Grade, that I began to question "religion". Sister Miriam had just given the religious instructions about the heavenly reward for the good and the eternal burning in hell for the bad. I raised my hand and in complete innocence asked, "Sister, if the you're burning forever wouldn't there come a time when you'd get used to it?" Mind you, and I'm not blowing my own horn here, I was one of the top five students in the class of between 20 and 30 pupils hence not a "wise ass". She looked me directly in the eyes, pointed a finger and said 'They change it!" Seems to me the creator of this whole shebang would have a lot more to worry about then someone's eternal discomfort. From there, it was a pretty easy walk to either "agnostic" or "atheist". Mind you, I believe one can be "spiritual" without necessarily being "religious" for, as Voltaire wrote, "The first preacher was the first rascal who met the first fool." Pass that collection plate NOW!

Natalia Maciel
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agree, although I try to be spiritual none the less. I am not practising any religion but I am courious about some like Budhissm. I once heard someone say that Religion is political and it makes so much sense.

DDmaybeandor
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m interested in all religions too and choose to believe in God in some form. I think god is like a crystal prism, it looks different depending where you’re standing or how the light hits it but ultimately it’s the same thing. Furthermore, (imho) religious books are written by imperfect people trying to understand an imperfect God. God can be two adjectives: loving, omnipotent, or omnipresent; but not all three.

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ℙ𝕦𝕣𝕣_𝕞𝕒𝕚𝕕
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

God didn't invent religion, it's something humans came up with to exert power & gain wealth.

David Dumond
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If god is good then why did he put us on a planet where everything kills and eats everything else to survive and then everything dies anyhow?

JustAnother Soul
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Death is not what you think it is. It is only the physical body that dies. And without death, life could not exist. You cannot have life without death to sustain it in the same way up doesn’t exist without down to contrast it. Light cannot exist without darkness. You need the opposite of a thing in order for either to exist. Death is not the bad thing you imagine it to be.

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Beach Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If those evil deeds were erased, wouldn't free-will be erased too?

Huddo's sister
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say so. I believe that's what the creation myth means- by gaining knowledge of good and evil, you are accepting that everyone makes choices to be good or evil, rather than God controlling everyone and everything.

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Alison Lubran
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Golden Rule is the principle of treating others as one wants to be treated. It is a maxim that is found in most religions and cultures.

Alison Lubran
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

According to Greg M. Epstein, it is "a concept that essentially no religion misses entirely", but belief in God is not necessary to endorse it.[

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JustAnother Soul
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

God has no control over people or their actions. People are responsible for their own behavior. Don’t blame God for what people are responsible for. God never interferes in a person’s free will. This goes for all the worlds atrocities committed by humans. Religion sucks because it’s often used to justify the awfulness.

Candia Lee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

South African floods. Tornadoes. Volcanic explosions. Asteroid strikes. Animal attacks. This world is no Eden.

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Celeste Finn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s not a god, though. Religion is people. It’s people who are failing you. I hope you find your path.

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Please. Don't blame God, he's just as horrified of what goes on in various churches. It's not his fault people have wondered away from him. For example, blame those claiming to be christians. For instance, there are so many traditions going on in various "christian" denominations that are upright non-scriptural. God shakes his head when people pray to Mary, using idols and whatnot. God clearly teaches us that “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth. You must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion.”—Exodus 20:4, 5. In Psalm 115:4-8 there's a similar passage about praying before images or use them in worship

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, but bullsh*t. First of all, I am not sure how you can justify saying god is "horrified" and "shakes his head" at anything, as that would imply you know the mind of your god. Second of all, of I remember correctly, in the book of acts he cursed a guy trying to buy the holy spirit and instantly killed two people who tried to lie about donating money. Seems to me that says he would have some corrective tools to use.

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So you expect a tyrant God to impose his will on humanity?

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Such a stupid reason. What people do has nothing to do with God.

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"Ultimately, if there was a god, this is the best it can do? I'm not impressed.".... hmmm... this sounds like what God is saying about you. "Ultimately, if this person was my servant & child, this is the best it can do? I'm not impressed."

Cuddly Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This...this just didn't make sense. First of all, where did the op claim to be a "servant and child"of God? Second, I would have to think we'd have higher standards for a a supposedly all knowing, loving and powerful being.

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We had it made in the garden of Eden. We screwed that up. Now here we are. God loves every single one of us. I know His heart breaks. He gave us a beautiful planet and look what we've done to it. He gave us free will and look what we've done with it. You want to blame somebody we should collectively look in the mirror. God is not the one to blame. How can you possibly blame God? He gave us the chance to live in the Garden of Eden to be totally satiated. And we collectively kicked the gift horse in the mouth. . Go ahead bud, burn that tv, refrigerator uand anything else that you can throw on that burn pile. Then blame God. Then go ahead and blame God for no ozone layer.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group People using it to justify their hate.

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Bazinga
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a serious issue. In no place in the bible does it say that being homosexual is a sin, but many people look for excuses for their biases

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group So many things but the final straw for me was my church asking a homeless man to leave and not come back. He would sit and listen to the sermons never bothered anyone and always sat in the very back. I confronted my youth group leader and she defended the preacher.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group When I was 6 years old, the pastor gave a letter to my aunt to give to my mom saying that we were not donating enough money to the church. So we stopped going, and I have never been to church since.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group The expectations for women to be subservient to men and have no further aspirations than “wife and mother”.

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Nathaniel
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Religion really screws with women's rights. I was told once, by a chauvinist Christian that women have different rights, but they are still equal rights.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group I worked at a restaurant near a church on Sundays. Rudest bunch of people ever.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group It quickly became evident that many people who call themselves religious, only do so to feel morally superior to others around them, and then use that superiority to try to control everything they can.

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Nikki Sevven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Which is morally superior, though? Subsuming morals that have been imposed on you by a church, or developing your own morals based on the idea that you should treat others the way you would like to be treated in similar circumstances? The latter actually requires self-reflection and thought, and can be modified as the times change. The former merely requires blind obedience and, apparently, judgment of others.

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#8

30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group As a kid, someone explaining to me that my dog that just passed away wouldn't be in heaven. I'd never see him again. Because dogs can't accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. So he was going to hell.

Pretty much done with it after that.

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Jelena
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For me, it was a claim that animals have no soul. and I am absolutely sure that they have it, both reason and soul, and more than some people.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Being told it was gods plan after my mother suffered through chemotherapy, and still passed away. I have no interest in a god who’s plan includes cancer

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sayings something like this to someone who lost their mother. This makes me want to punch them in the face.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group When I realized the Bible wasn't written by God/Jesus and it was written by man and was written like 200 years after Jesus's death. Like I can't even 100% trust the word of a good friend who heard something from someone else in 2022, let alone some game telephone from 2000 years ago.

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Nikki Sevven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, rules that would have made perfect sense for the protection of a tribe in the Bronze Age (most of Leviticus) make absolutely no sense in the modern world. We can eat shellfish now, because we have freezers. We can get tattoos and piercings, because we have autoclaves. And so on.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group There’s a short period of time where most of the religion started. Everything prior is mythology and everything after is a cult. Hmm, how convenient.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is one of the biggest problem with traditional religions. They originate in ancient times, brutal, violent and sexist. How is it logical to follow rules that were developed thousands of years ago in a very different society? I dont need bronze and iron age people to tell me how to behave, how to dress, what to eat or whom to love.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Going to a megachurch.

They received over 1 mil in donations every weekend and spent it on elaborate props and videos rather than helping the community in any meaningful way.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do the elaborate props and videos include the Learjet, the Bentley and the weeklong retreat at European resorts?

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group The lack of compassion and rejection of science

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Nathaniel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have noticed science is only accepted if it supports the religious worldview in some way. Any other science is to be dismissed.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group I was 6 years old in a Saudi elementary school. There was this one Christian Bosnian kid whose dad was a butcher, he was incredibly kind and often gave me delicious smoked meat sandwiches.

The thought of him going to Hell as a non-Muslim was illogical, and made me question religion for the first time.

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Jamie Sterling
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was 12, I was told you had to believe in Jesus to go to heaven. I asked what about the other people in other countries that never even heard about Jesus. I was told they weren't going to heaven. My God wouldn't keep good people out of heaven just because they didn't know about Jesus. Goodness and kindness get you into heaven, not Jesus or religion in my belief system. I'm a nurse.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group The non-answers to all my questions as a kid. "You just have to have faith" is a dumb way to respond to an inquisitive mind.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group I started caring about what is actually true.

All the contradictions of every religion melt away when you can simply acknowledge all religions are man-made.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some of the most vile and bigoted people I have known would call themselves “good Christians” with a straight face. It seems like half the people I went to high school with wound up being ultra right-wing zealots who believe everything they read on Breibart.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group My dad had cancer for 10 years and then he passed away when I was 14 years old. I thought I was having a good heart to heart with my small group leader about it.

She asked if my dad was "a man of God" because she wanted to make sure he isn't "burning in Hell"

Who the f**k says that to a grieving child? So completely insensitive. It took me several months to fully realize the weight of that conversation with her before I left religion altogether.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Setting aside the obvious reasons for why this was terrible, what, exactly, was the mf point in asking this? Let's assume for a moment that hell exists. What could be done about anything at that point? What could the kid do? What could the group person do? Nothing.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group My mother. She instilled some serious shame into me under the guise of God. Some things she said:

-Not allowed to believe in Santa because that takes credit away from God. Santa was actually a hand of Satan trying to corrupt me

-Not allowed to believe in the Easter Bunny because it was also a hand of Satan trying to corrupt me away from Jesus.

-I wasn't allowed to feel pride in my accomplishments because it's a sin

-I was a d**khead because my dad got me fully vaccinated as a child and that is against God's plan

-Hollywood is operated by Satan so I wasn't allowed to watch movies or shows (especially Disney)

-Harry Potter was an absolute no because witchcraft is an affront to God

-Scientists should not be trusted under any circumstances

-My rare genetic condition was part of God's plan and I'd understand some day

-Not allowed to say "damn" because it's an affront to God

-etc

That combined with her regular, not religious abuse has left me struggling a lot with my religiosity.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Sermons alternated between asking for money, telling us LGBT people were bad, or telling us we were all worthless sinners without God.

Left church every Sunday feeling like s**t. One week, I just decided I'm not going back.

I don't miss it.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group I was like 15 and playing an instrument in the “worship band” for the most popular “youth group” in the area (which is a verrry Christian area). At one point the pastor dude was praying and the musicians were behind him waiting to play when he was done. The whole room (200+) had their heads bowed as dude was praying. Then his prayer went into the whole “here’s what you pray if you want to become a Christian right now” yada yada yada.. then at the end he says

“Ok everyone keep your heads bowed, eyes closed. Now if you just prayed that prayer with me I want you to look up - everyone else keep your heads bowed- but if you just now gave your life to Jesus look up at me or raise your hand so I can see you”

I’m behind him, and facing the crowd who have their eyes closed so I decide it’s safe to take a peek. I discreetly look up and notice that exactly ZERO people in the crowd are looking up at him. Every single person still has their head bowed, eyes closed. (Which is fine, I mean maybe they were all already Christians?) However, as I’m looking at nobody responding, Mr Pastor starts saying “ok I see you there”, “oh I see another over there, Amen” “and you back there, praise god”. “Yes I see you over there, amen come find me afterwards”. It was perplexing to see him lie to so many people like that. And this wasn’t some nobody youth pastor, he was like quite legit having written books and being mentioned in national articles and stuff
TLDR; an acclaimed youth pastor tried to make it seem like his prayer had converted several people, when I could clearly see it had not

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Nikki Sevven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always get a chuckle when I see Christian tattoos, since Leviticus strictly forbids them.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group The fact that there are multiple but I was taught that only ONE is correct

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Nathaniel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fun fact. All religions cannot be right. However all religions can be wrong.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group The fact that if you're not in my religion, you're kinda f**ked in the afterlife. I didn't choose my religion, so what makes me so special?

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K- THULU
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course condemning a non believer to hell is pretty well the same as condemning them to narnia or the magical world of oz. I'm not really scared of a made up destination...

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group My parents pulling an exorcist on me. On their own. Screaming at me that I wasn’t their son but that there was a demon inside of me...

And more but that is the main thing tbh that has made me more an ant-theist than just an atheist

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Nathaniel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What had the child done to make the parents think an exorcism is needed?

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Honestly having to go to church as a little kid. Felt like an endurance test every Sunday to just get through it. Like, dude I’m 6 I wanna play with my action figures or be outside or game. I don’t wanna fight the fidgets in the pew listening to adults breathy sing to tired hymns while I just want it to end so I can go be a kid on the weekend. Then as I got older all the obvious reasons you see everywhere, the contradictions, violence, stupidity etc

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They did make it really tough on children. Some Churches had fun Sunday School or catechism classes but then you had to sit through Mass afterward. It felt like the worst punishment to sit still and be quiet for so long.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group There was never an answer.

I wanted to believe desperately.

I wanted to and I begged God to allow me to be doubtless. I tried and tried and tried to make it work. To make it fit.

I asked questions. I wondered. I pondered. I just got to a point where there were no more answers. No one had an answer that made sense.

Nothing that the next person couldn’t alter or contradict. Nothing that was ‘set’ or ‘fixed.’ It was all up in the air and I just needed more faith.

I tried. I really did. But my mind just won’t allow it anymore.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's exactly how I feel. I ask a question, get answers but the answers end up giving me more questions. It just goes on and on and a lot of the time the answers don't make sense or just not logical etc.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Being told I was going to rot in hell every time I made a simple mistake

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Having to confess my “sins” as a 10 year old.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Didn't you just make up random s**t? That's what I did. The penance was always the same, which made it even more funny.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group Religious leaders ruined religion for me

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. Like the new Pope pretending to be modern as a way to gain followers but then refusing that women get any power in the catholic church (f*****g sexism) and calling people that have no children selfish.

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30 Things That Shook People’s Faith In Religion, As Shared In This Online Group former catholic, current atheist here. i am fortunate enough to not have had any severely traumatic experiences involving the church. but, i grew up in the church and i used to love to sing the hymns. as i got older i started to realize what the words i was singing meant. i really didn’t like how some of the hymns/songs called us as people “nothing” compared to god. i don’t really agree with devaluing and trivializing ourselves and our problems as part of worship. that is what really did it.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i agree, telling me i’m a worthless sinner compared to ThE lOvInG jEsUs ChRiSt really f****d with my already bad mental health

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