
“Always Had A Taste For Macabre”: Mothers Crushed After Daughters Reveal Their Wedding Theme
Considering the fact that weddings are supposed to be all about celebrating a happy couple, there sure are a lot of societal expectations that come along with them. In many Western countries, brides are expected to wear white, receptions are expected to serve alcohol, and it’s assumed that the occasion will be a family-friendly, timeless celebration.
And while one couple has decided they’re going to shirk expectations and plan a wedding according to their own unique interests, the brides’ mothers have had trouble expressing support. Below, you’ll find thefull story that one of the brides shared on Reddit, as well as conversations with wedding expertsClaudia Sokolova, Suki Lanh ofOffbeat Wed, and Valentina Ring ofThe Stars Inside.
This woman and her fiancé have chosen a unique wedding theme tailored to their interests
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But their mothers have been very vocal about their disapproval
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Later, the bride responded to a few comments from readers and provided additional information
“Unless the family is paying for the wedding, they should have minimal say on how you spend your money”
“Unless the family is paying for the wedding, they should have minimal say on how you spend your money. Period,” says Claudia Sokolova, of The Big Day events. “The influence of a family and the pressures they bring are astronomical, and it’s not the 60’s anymore. People get married because they want to, not because of cultural norms. Sure, we adhere to them a lot of the time with weddings. But the point is, parents need to either accept their children and what they want or pay for it in full – simple.”
According to Suki Lanh, assistant editor at Offbeat Wed, a family’s involvement and advice should be dependent on however much the marriers are willing to accept. “What it comes down to is the marriers’ values and boundaries,” she explained. “Whether or not your family has agreed to pay for your wedding, it’s certainly not fun to feel like your agency and voice have been taken away. Especially on a day that’s about celebrating your love!”
International wedding planner Valentina Ring, ofThe Stars Inside, also weighed in on the topic, noting that it should ultimately be the couple’s decision how much their loved ones are involved. “Some couples very much enjoy having their parents be a part of the process, or perhaps planning alongside close friends or other dear family members; others find that the emotional highs and lows of the planning journey actually exacerbate tensions between them and their family or friends, especially where money is involved,” she explained.
“The bottom line is that every couple’s wedding should align with their own priorities, nobody else’s, and every single bride or groom out there is owed the freedom to decide what is genuinely right for them,” Valentina continued. “What they invest in, how they choose to host their guests, which traditions they want to pay homage to – all of this is theirs, and theirs alone. There is no right or wrong, there is no rulebook, and there is no ‘should’ when it comes to wedding planning.”
Valentina added that sometimes well-intentioned parents pressure their children so much that they cause immense anxiety. Their idea of what a wedding “should be” may be outdated or may not embody the values that the couple wants to live and celebrate by. “If that is the case, couples should feel empowered to take their own path, while of course still letting their family know how loved and appreciated they are,” Valentina says.
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Nontraditional weddings are growing in popularity and can be just as beautiful as any other celebration
The experts also noted that unique weddings are becoming increasingly popular and can be extremely well done. “I have seen a lot [of nontraditional weddings] on TikTok, and they are just as beautiful as a ‘normal’ wedding,” Claudia shared. “It’s your day, you should wear whatever you want.”
Suki also says she’s very familiar with dark wedding themes. “And they’re all GORGEOUS,” she told Bored Panda. “The folks who read the Offbeat Wed blog come to us because they love all things nontraditional. We accept reader wedding submissions, and I wholeheartedly believe our readers are the most creative people in the game!”
“Offbeat Wed readers have done black wedding dresses, macabre themes, goth weddings, Halloween weddings, Pagan weddings, Satanic weddings,” Suki continued. “The ‘dark’ wedding themes are endless at the Offbeat Wed blog! We recently had a witchy handfasting where two marriers included ‘vulture culture,’ a hobby that includes collecting animal bones. As a wedding gift, a friend gifted them a dead coyote that had been hit by a car. The couple buried it, and dug it up again on their first anniversary.”
Valentina also says that colored dresses definitely have a place in bridal attire and groomswear, noting that it’s actually becoming rare for couples to opt for the traditionally assigned male and female outfits. “White dresses are still prevalent of course, but even brides that choose these will often opt for accessories or an evening dress that is more playful, and maybe show off their style even more,” the expert explained.
“Internationally renowned bridal designers like Vera Wang, Leanne Marshall, David’s Bridal, Galia Lahav, and Maggie Sottero, to name a few, have all showcased gorgeous black wedding gowns in their collections – and we’ve seen a number of celebrities like Sarah Jessica Parker, Christine Quinn, and Chloë Sevigny all chose chic black dress for their nuptials,” Valentina continued.
“As for the use of more alternative and less traditional themes like this one, just a few minutes spent on any of the best global wedding blogs will prove that there is a thriving and wonderfully diverse plethora of dark, dramatic, more atmospheric wedding content out there – and couples are loving it,” the wedding planner continued. “Inspiration is being taken from favorite novels, TV shows, movies, paintings, and so much more, and couples are embracing every season, every theme, and every color palette under the sun.”
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“You deserve love and respect on your day”
We also asked the wedding experts what they would recommend for brides and grooms whose parents don’t approve of their chosen themes. “If your parents are the type of people to give you an ultimatum, that’s manipulative,” Claudia noted. “If they don’t like your choices, that’s their problem. It’s your day, you’re paying for it. If they don’t like it – they don’t have to be there.”
“I am a firm believer that you should stand your ground when it comes to stuff like this,” she continued. “If they’re going to throw a temper tantrum and worry about what the neighbors will think, maybe they shouldn’t come. If they don’t come over something so important to you, maybe your entire relationship should be evaluated. You deserve respect and love on your day. Not some estranged auntie in the corner giving you looks because your flowers weren’t her favorite color.”
Suki shared that it can be useful to determine the root of why your family members may disapprove, as they’re likely not actually upset about the theme. “It’s probably a projection of another feeling. Perhaps they’re worried their relatives will think poorly of them,” she explained. “Perhaps they’ve invited their boss and want to make a good impression. Take the time to get to the bottom of it, and don’t forget to lead with kindness, curiosity, and questions. This might give you more clarity and help you create compromises that everyone loves! For instance, if they’re upset that you’re having a black wedding cake, perhaps you can add lovely white icing or a traditional cake topper to appease them.”
“It also helps to show them examples of how the theme has been executed beautifully!” Suki added. “If they see more photos and inspiration from other weddings, they’ll be more inclined to admit that it’s a pretty dope theme after all. Another option we’ve seen Offbeat Wed readers do is finance their own weddings entirely. This puts them in a more comfortable position to brush off negative opinions.” This gives marriers the option to respond to unsolicited advice with, “Sorry, that’s not in our wedding budget,” which leaves the family with two options: “Fork out some cash if they really want to make it happen or let go and let God,” Suki shared. The expert added that Offbeat Wed also has a “copy ’n paste conflict resolution” piece that can be helpful for couples in similar situations.
While Valentina recognizes that situations like this can be difficult to navigate, she believes that the key to keeping relationships positive while wedding planning is to communicate openly and bravely, thus managing expectations from the start. “Whether it’s a decor decision, a guestlist culling decision, and financial decision, or anything else that you might find yourself at odds about with family: you have every right to explain to them, as honestly as you can, why you are doing what you are doing,” she told Bored Panda.
“For the most part, the advice they are forcing on you is coming from a good place, from wanting to be there for you, and wanting you to have the best possible day; which is why explaining to them that you are in fact doing what is right for you can help them understand,” Valentina added. “Show them your enthusiasm for your choices – show them how blissfully, genuinely, and unashamedly happy your plans are making you. Let them hear, see, and feel how excited you are about making your wedding your own! Let them know that you’re honored to have them in your life and by your side, and help them see that this love can take the form of accepting YOU for who you are, and your wedding for what it is. Anyone who loves you just wants you to do what is best for you, even if they’re not great at showing it.”
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“There is nothing selfish about wanting to spend the day you get married doing things you love with people you love, feeling fabulous and most authentically YOU”
The experts also added their advice for couples who find themselves in similar situations. “Stand up for what you believe in. You will always regret not listening to your intuition,” Claudia told Bored Panda. “You will always regret making a decision based on someone else’s happiness.”
“Weddings are a petri dish for family drama!” Suki added. “For some, wedding planning is the first time your parents are being forced to see you as an adult with your own lifestyle and values. Offbeat Wed‘s covered all kinds of wedding family drama under the sun, from ‘My parents hate my wedding theme,’ to ‘What to do when your relatives don’t approve of your queer wedding.’ If you’re dealing with it, we’ve written about it, and we’ve got your back. At the end of the day, what matters is that you have a celebration that feels authentic to you and your partner’s values. Good luck and happy planning!”
Valentina urges couples to never let someone else make them feel guilty about their wedding decisions. “It’s understandable if you’re feeling worried that your choice may be seen as ‘selfish’ – but it absolutely isn’t. There is nothing selfish about wanting to spend the day you get married doing things you love with people you love, feeling fabulous and most authentically YOU,” she shared. “Gently remind yourself of all the truths and reasons that led you to your decisions, let go of this burden, and enjoy every moment of having done what’s right for you, for all the right reasons.”
We’d love to hear your thoughts on this situation in the comments below, pandas. Would you ever have a wedding with a non-traditional theme? Then, if you’re interested in checking out another Bored Panda article discussing wedding theme drama, we recommend reading this one next!
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"ruining her only chance to plan her daughter's perfect wedding." How about telling them that this IS „their daughters perfect wedding“? Gosh, some people. I can‘t even
So, Mrs xy…why did you have a kid? Well, the main reason was so I could plan a perfect wedding for my kid! *facepalm*
Load More Replies...I told my mother she should have had more than one kid, so she could plan their lives, not mine.
Sometimes parents act like toddlers and you have to set firm boundaries and teach hard lessons. You're both adults, you're paying for the wedding yourselves, your mothers have no power, don't give them any. If they wanted to "plan their perfect wedding" they better do that with their own.
I bet if you told the mothers, you've both had your own weddings to plan perfectly, they would answer at least in their heads, but I didn't get to plan my wedding, my mother did. In which case, time to break the cycle
And it sounds like a fabulous wedding they are planning
Load More Replies...My mom wanted so much to be part of the wedding my wife and I planned, but she has the personality that she would try to take over / change everything that we wanted. So we invited just her to the tasting for the menu. It was something my wife and I didn't really care too much about, there were limited options for food, and my mom got to feel really special by helping to pick out the menu.
This wedding sounds amazing! I hope if my daughter ever decides to get married she does something weird and cool because she is absolutely a forest gremlin. But if she doesn't, that's great too, because it's not about me! Mother's who want to plan their kid's "perfect" wedding only mean perfect according to their standards, which is crazy. It's not your day Brenda, sit down!
The wedding sounds awesome honestly. I'd consider it myself, but I still plan on getting married on a pirate ship during a sword fight. ....Which is probably why I'm still single...
Important question: will the sword fight be between you and your beloved?
Load More Replies...Up for discussion. We could do that, or it could be between us and the rest of the wedding party. Either works for me. The hardest part (other than finding a woman willing to marry me) is finding members of the wedding party who Could sword fight with us.
Tell you what. Find a woman who could love me enough to marry me and not only can you be in the wedding party, I'll teach you swordfighting myself.
Not really sure what you are asking. If you mean, am I looking for someone that I could love and be loved by in return? That will likely be a search on going for the rest of my life, however long that may be. But if you are trying to heal, and need someone to talk to, I'm always here. I can't promise I'll be able to help, but I'll always listen.
Same deal I made PM. Introduce me to a woman I could love and be loved by enough that we get married, and you will be invited.
When my now husband and I were planning our wedding we were going with a Halloween theme, fall colours, jack o lanterns as centrepieces, guests wearing costumes if they wanted. My mother HATED the idea, I told her no problem, it was our wedding not hers and if she didn't like it she was free not to attend. That shut her up! (Shockingly, that woman HAS to have her way or life is hell for everyone). We ended up eloping because we had a halloweenish baby on the way instead though
I have a friend who tried to commit suicide because her mother was so overwhelmingly pushy about how the wedding should be. She didn't have the wedding she wanted, do she was going to control the daughter's wedding. After counseling, daughter and fiancé eloped.
Nothing wrong with wistfully wishing, but these moms went WAY over the line with trying to take over. They don't plan the wedding if they're not paying. The participants do. They either shut up and smile at the planned wedding, or stay away and miss out. That's the only choice they have.
NTA tell them if they do indeed want to plan their daughters perfect wedding day they need to help you plan it your way so that it is perfect for you and so that you are happy. Mothers happiness should be coming from your happiness that everything is exactly the way YOU want it.
Planning a perfect wedding for someone who never asked you to plan it.
This wedding sounds so cool. It's amazing how some family members become so entitled when it comes to someone else's wedding. They had their wedding. No one can tell how to do your wedding especially if you are paying for it. Stay strong and don't cave. They'll get over it.
The suggestion on the top to have the mothers organise something before or after in the more traditional wedding style is a good one, if they can go all out on the white and soft pink theme, it might take away the pain a bit.
Pain? The MIL's want a perfect wedding? were theirs dumpster fires? The perfect wedding is what the COUPLE want - not the meddling MIL's
Load More Replies...Then she should pay for it herself, every cent. If the B&G don't want that theme, they should not pay for it👍
I just hope they keep it how they want it because it sounds gorgeous!
Creative weddings are the best because they don't follow the norm. A friend of mine had her mother take over her wedding and the MOH had to keep the groom from killing MIL. NOTHING was what they wanted. (I'm so glad my mother & MIL us do what we wanted. - My mother even told my sister's to shut up and leave me alone.)
Not only is is YOUR wedding, but ESPECIALLY if u r paying for ur OWN wedding, no one gets to even have an IMPRESSION that they have a say in ur wedding. They had their own weddings! It's ur turn now!
If these mothers are acting like this about the wedding, imagine how they're going to behave when they become grandmothers.
Damn, these people sound cool af. I hope they proceeded with their interesting plans and told their moms to kick rocks.
Calling parents. You are living your life. Let your children live their life. This is necessary for everything your adult children decide. Partner, job, education, lifestyle. Let them live their lives. I am sure you don't fondly remember when your parents tried to live yours.
The four determinants of how a wedding should be executed: 1) what the couple wants. 2) religious considerations if the couple is religious. 3) what's in the budget? 4) does this accommodate our desired guests ie location, cost of getting to location, disability access, etc. If the mums were paying for the whole thing, I'd say give a little if you want them to actually pay. But in this case, they aren't. Give one of them charge over the rehearsal dinner. They can plan (and pay for) whatever they want. Give the other one charge of the gift-opening brunch. Again, they can plan and pay for exactly what they want.
parent like that when they where younger they could not have the wedding of there dream so they try to live it through there kids
There’s a simple solution: The two mothers can pay for a wedding where they marry each other.
"ruining her only chance to plan her daughter's perfect wedding." How about telling them that this IS „their daughters perfect wedding“? Gosh, some people. I can‘t even
So, Mrs xy…why did you have a kid? Well, the main reason was so I could plan a perfect wedding for my kid! *facepalm*
Load More Replies...I told my mother she should have had more than one kid, so she could plan their lives, not mine.
Sometimes parents act like toddlers and you have to set firm boundaries and teach hard lessons. You're both adults, you're paying for the wedding yourselves, your mothers have no power, don't give them any. If they wanted to "plan their perfect wedding" they better do that with their own.
I bet if you told the mothers, you've both had your own weddings to plan perfectly, they would answer at least in their heads, but I didn't get to plan my wedding, my mother did. In which case, time to break the cycle
And it sounds like a fabulous wedding they are planning
Load More Replies...My mom wanted so much to be part of the wedding my wife and I planned, but she has the personality that she would try to take over / change everything that we wanted. So we invited just her to the tasting for the menu. It was something my wife and I didn't really care too much about, there were limited options for food, and my mom got to feel really special by helping to pick out the menu.
This wedding sounds amazing! I hope if my daughter ever decides to get married she does something weird and cool because she is absolutely a forest gremlin. But if she doesn't, that's great too, because it's not about me! Mother's who want to plan their kid's "perfect" wedding only mean perfect according to their standards, which is crazy. It's not your day Brenda, sit down!
The wedding sounds awesome honestly. I'd consider it myself, but I still plan on getting married on a pirate ship during a sword fight. ....Which is probably why I'm still single...
Important question: will the sword fight be between you and your beloved?
Load More Replies...Up for discussion. We could do that, or it could be between us and the rest of the wedding party. Either works for me. The hardest part (other than finding a woman willing to marry me) is finding members of the wedding party who Could sword fight with us.
Tell you what. Find a woman who could love me enough to marry me and not only can you be in the wedding party, I'll teach you swordfighting myself.
Not really sure what you are asking. If you mean, am I looking for someone that I could love and be loved by in return? That will likely be a search on going for the rest of my life, however long that may be. But if you are trying to heal, and need someone to talk to, I'm always here. I can't promise I'll be able to help, but I'll always listen.
Same deal I made PM. Introduce me to a woman I could love and be loved by enough that we get married, and you will be invited.
When my now husband and I were planning our wedding we were going with a Halloween theme, fall colours, jack o lanterns as centrepieces, guests wearing costumes if they wanted. My mother HATED the idea, I told her no problem, it was our wedding not hers and if she didn't like it she was free not to attend. That shut her up! (Shockingly, that woman HAS to have her way or life is hell for everyone). We ended up eloping because we had a halloweenish baby on the way instead though
I have a friend who tried to commit suicide because her mother was so overwhelmingly pushy about how the wedding should be. She didn't have the wedding she wanted, do she was going to control the daughter's wedding. After counseling, daughter and fiancé eloped.
Nothing wrong with wistfully wishing, but these moms went WAY over the line with trying to take over. They don't plan the wedding if they're not paying. The participants do. They either shut up and smile at the planned wedding, or stay away and miss out. That's the only choice they have.
NTA tell them if they do indeed want to plan their daughters perfect wedding day they need to help you plan it your way so that it is perfect for you and so that you are happy. Mothers happiness should be coming from your happiness that everything is exactly the way YOU want it.
Planning a perfect wedding for someone who never asked you to plan it.
This wedding sounds so cool. It's amazing how some family members become so entitled when it comes to someone else's wedding. They had their wedding. No one can tell how to do your wedding especially if you are paying for it. Stay strong and don't cave. They'll get over it.
The suggestion on the top to have the mothers organise something before or after in the more traditional wedding style is a good one, if they can go all out on the white and soft pink theme, it might take away the pain a bit.
Pain? The MIL's want a perfect wedding? were theirs dumpster fires? The perfect wedding is what the COUPLE want - not the meddling MIL's
Load More Replies...Then she should pay for it herself, every cent. If the B&G don't want that theme, they should not pay for it👍
I just hope they keep it how they want it because it sounds gorgeous!
Creative weddings are the best because they don't follow the norm. A friend of mine had her mother take over her wedding and the MOH had to keep the groom from killing MIL. NOTHING was what they wanted. (I'm so glad my mother & MIL us do what we wanted. - My mother even told my sister's to shut up and leave me alone.)
Not only is is YOUR wedding, but ESPECIALLY if u r paying for ur OWN wedding, no one gets to even have an IMPRESSION that they have a say in ur wedding. They had their own weddings! It's ur turn now!
If these mothers are acting like this about the wedding, imagine how they're going to behave when they become grandmothers.
Damn, these people sound cool af. I hope they proceeded with their interesting plans and told their moms to kick rocks.
Calling parents. You are living your life. Let your children live their life. This is necessary for everything your adult children decide. Partner, job, education, lifestyle. Let them live their lives. I am sure you don't fondly remember when your parents tried to live yours.
The four determinants of how a wedding should be executed: 1) what the couple wants. 2) religious considerations if the couple is religious. 3) what's in the budget? 4) does this accommodate our desired guests ie location, cost of getting to location, disability access, etc. If the mums were paying for the whole thing, I'd say give a little if you want them to actually pay. But in this case, they aren't. Give one of them charge over the rehearsal dinner. They can plan (and pay for) whatever they want. Give the other one charge of the gift-opening brunch. Again, they can plan and pay for exactly what they want.
parent like that when they where younger they could not have the wedding of there dream so they try to live it through there kids
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