Hey BP. You need to add a new poll option: "What the f**k kind of dystopia do we live in where employees are subsidising sick leave for other employees"

She was blunt with her reasoning, but she was being honest. I'd take honesty over lies any day. The problem started when someone created the sign up sheet - they turned a nice gesture into a tax on their co-workers. How many of the other colleagues gave up a day of PTO because they felt they couldn't refuse? And yes, the real YTA is the employer and corporate Merica. (edit for spelling)

It's just so sad and sick that here in the US people dying of cancer are having to work during some of their last days possibly because of finances. Our government should be willing to help out its civilians when they are too sick, we should also have better education and free college( everyone knows smarter civilians leads to a better country). There's literally no excuse for their greed we're one of the richest countries.

I have cancer and asked for my hours to be reduced to a level I can physically handle. Now, I likely have a year or 2, I'm not sure how long this person has but she should only work as long as she wants to or can then lean on insurance resources at the end. It really sucks that employer wouldn't donate a few weeks of PTO instead asking coworkers to give up theirs. It's sad that in America we have to rely on kindness of acquaintances to get extra time with loved ones before we die. But also, I live mostly paycheck to paycheck, even more so since I've had to start reducing hours for illness. I would never ask coworkers to give up their PTO for me. I guess I'm not understanding what the extra couple of days off would do for her that she couldn't do anyway. Shrug

Donating time off, in healthcare no less. I'm not even surprised at this point. What the hell are you paying taxes for? The government doesn't help you when you're sick, they don't help you when you cannot work, you have to beg for money to get treatment and beg for your co workers time off to not get fired. What does your government do? Is all your tax money going towards banal election rallies and campaigns?

Any country that obligates its citizen to beg from his colleagues to donate their PTO for medical reasons is worst than third world brothelhouse. F.U. US! You USans, all these guns you buy, to protect your "democracy", can shove them where it hurts more. Yeas, I am furious!

A warning to many countries like England, Canada, Australia etc there is a lot of corporate pressure behind the scenes in our politics to turn us into America. Particularly destroying healthcare so we become slaves in exchange for basic healthcare.

Luckily living in a country where donating paid holidays (at least 5 weeks per year) is not possible and would be illegal.

You can be 100% in the right and still be an a*****e. Your article makes that perfectly clear.

I'm with the y t a people based on how they said it. You could literally make up any reason it doesn't have to be true. Or you could tell them you only donate a secrecy and it's nobody's business. But to say somebody's life is worthless and that's why you're not donating... Wow.

The reason given was cutting and could have been more diplomatic, but nobody is under any obligation at all to give up their PTO for someone else, especially someone they don't like. That said, when you go against the grain, know that even if you are 100% 'the angel', you will be seen as 100% the demon. Don't bother trying to change how the hivemind sees you, get used to being its demon when you don't follow their programs, and press on. Just be kind about it next time and from now on.

NTA. Giving PTO is crazy bat feces. No matter the situation. It is the employer/ social security responsability Fulllest stop ever. I can´t believe what i am reading with my own two eyes.

It was stated that the employee with cancer would be given disability pay equal to 60% of her pay. If you give up your PTO that's only equivalent to 40% because she would receive 60% anyway. So you give up 100% of your benefit, she gets 40% and your employer saves a ton of money. No thanks.

The poll is missing an option. Donating pto should not be a thing.

I agree. NTA. But leave it at no, I’m not donating my pto.

All the YTA people seem to be labouring under the mistaken belief that the author had stated to colleagues why they weren't donating any pto.

Screw that and the YTAs. The employer could give her the PTO with a signature. NTA in triplicate.

PS, are the rest of you blind to the actual point if this story? You all are arguing about the PTO issue and not noticing how the commenter is a coldhearted, arrogant prick? Not because they won't donate, but because of how cruel their comments were?

NTA. Where I worked had the same thing. Where they ask employees to donate their unused time. What I seen was the employees that needed my time, where the ones that were constantly using all their time. Then brag about not leaving any time to the company. As a person that used their as needed and kept time for emergencies, I find this practice very distasteful. Because then co workers pressure others to donate their time. I say the company is TAH for making this work environment.

NTA, empathy and sympathy are not the same thing. OP said she understands the sadness and respected the situation. She just didn't care to donate her PTO which should NEVER be an option. I don't care who's dying, insurance or the company can cover it, other employees should NEVER even be asked. Life is hard, but we are only responsible for our own. Cancer sucks, but it's not really anyone's problem to resolve except the one who has it. Someone else's dire financial situation does not demand your resources, and if people don't like you bc of it too bad. You're not a charity, if people only like you for what you can do for others, their opinion is worthless anyways.

For all the people saying that the employer should do something...my employer does take care of people in this situation but doesn't advertise it for praise. We then get half of the employees who are mad at the company for "not doing anything" and the other half mad for the company not asking them to help. Donating time off makes some people happy because they feel like they are doing something to help and helping someone shouldn't be advertised so that you can reassure everyone how awesome you are.

YTA You shouldn't be working in a Healthcare field if this is your attitude towards someone who is seriously ill. You don't have to donate all of your PTO. Even a token offering, 1 or 2 days would at least be 1 or 2 days she could get some relief. You could also put aside grievances for a minute. She could be rotten to the core. But you're just as bad here. Or, you could think of something else: a gift of Uber to get her to and from appointments, gift card for a one time meal or any number of other things. It might lead to a changed attitude on her part. Even close friends and family tend to disappear when we're I'll especially with cancer and other serious issues. Barring actual criminal behavior or outright meanness, no one deserves that. Karma does come full circle. You'd do well to remember that.

I wouldn't donate PTO. Want a monetary donation. Sure. No worthiness criteria. Just no. PTO is mine.

Of course this person has no responsibility to donate their PTO, but holy f*cking hell do they sound like an awful person. Where's their empathy? Why not just say "No, I'm afraid that's not possible right now" and leave it at that? The comments about how giving extra time would be a waste because the colleague will die anyway are sickening. I have a feeling they're going to be very unpopular, but based on this post I have a feeling they already are.

Healthcare worker! What healthCARE? Time to recover or time to be with family, if terminal, is a basic human right. Maybe if you were in a third world country, where paid employment is scarce or not regulated, but bl**dy h*ll, most of the rest of the world pays 6 or 12 months at full pay, and can provide 'ill health' early retirement with pension as though you'd worked to retirement age. Inhumane.

Has anyone started a meal drop plan? Or cleaning plan? How about a personal shopper plan? There's other ways to help besides donating pto. PTO is great, but if she spends that time cooking, cleaning or doing the shopping, it isn't giving her time with her family. So, give her something that will allow her to spend that time with her family and help her financially.

omg if about to die give up your job and live last part of life to fullest (unless like 8 days away from retirement and huge pension) what joke the usa is

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Yes very much the callous ah ! The woman’s likely dying for heavens sake if your allowed to donate paid leave gotta be USA cos that’s not a thing here in uk but omg if I was in your situation even if I didn’t like the person (I don’t like people in general more so ones like you !) I’d happily donate it seriously your why should I she don’t need it she’s dying words disgust me ! How cruel are you there by the grace of god go you lady ! n karma remembers everything you did yourself you don’t really need it SHE DOES to be able to spend what ever time she has left with her family to have treatment and maybe even recover she’s got enough to worry about without money issues to pto would alleviate that at least so she can relax on that score your an awful person yes there should be help out there like there is here in uk but there isn’t ! So be the be the decent person and help a dying woman out to spend precious time with her family with out the added money worries