Dating can be pretty hard for women nowadays. One 2024 study found that single women tend to be happier than single men. What's more, the number of women who are dating is steadily decreasing. A 2023 Pew survey revealed that in 2019, 38% of single American women were looking for dates. In 2022, that number dropped to 35%.
For some gals, it's about safety; they just don't feel comfortable going on dates with strangers. In a couple of threads online, women have been sharing what behaviors might signal that it's not entirely safe to go back to the guy's place after a date. Others also shared their thoughts about what generally might signal that a man is dangerous.
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More of a really small indicator, but I think a guy that makes jokes at other peoples expense but can’t handle when he’s being joked about.
True, but this is about women and what scares them about men
Load More Replies...What about people like me, who make jokes at my own expense but don't like it when people make jokes at other people's?
My ex-husband was like this. He loved nothing more than playing pranks on people and humiliating them but if anybody played a joke on him and made him look a fool, he would go crazy with rage
I joke about myself, does that qualify me twice as a keeper? (ok, joke's on me...)
This is not a small indicator at all. It's a glaring red flag. I've also been trying to teach my kids, there's a subtle difference between "ribbing" somebody and being disrespectful. For instance, if I joke with my daughter when she puts a toy in the fridge because she's distracted, there are mean and silly ways of doing that. For instance, saying "it's a good thing you put that in the fridge, so I can save it for dinner tomorrow" is being silly. But saying "that was a stupid thing to do" is being disrespectful. It's important to know the difference. And this applies to adult humor as well. I'll give an example as a reply.
Before my GF met me, she dated a guy who would constantly make jokes at her expense. It really made her feel lousy about herself, so I try to be extra careful about this with her. Well, I own a Dalmatian, and she has a red collar and red leash. I pick up my kids from school with her most days, and one of their friends asked if I was a fireman. I told my GF this and she asked "is it because you're bald?" I laughed and said no, and she immediately realized it was because of the dog, and laughed at herself. Months later I met her parents, and SHE (not me), told this story to her family. We all laughed about it. She was IN on the joke, it was a bit of silliness. I wouldn't have told that story myself, because she might have been hurt by it.
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Destroying things in anger. People get mad, it happens. I don't care if someone yells or swears to let off some steam. But if you smash your TV because of a video game or your sports team loses, I don't want to be around you.
I once saw a guy beat up his (expensive) car because he lost a tennis match. He broke his racket on it before getting some tools from the boot and continuing to lay into the car (causing thousands of pounds of damage to the body work and lights). It was scary to watch as his neighbour, so I can understand how someone would not want to be around someone like that.
When a guy always emphasizes "I would never hit a girl. I don't believe in hitting girls." Then shows violence through other destruction, run.
This has always been the #1 dealbreaker for me when it comes to dating. If you punch things when you're angry, the relationship is over.
And when they say, "You made me do that." Err, no. At what point did I point a gun at your head and force you to smash up my possessions? (Ex-husband again)
Not just men, my mother did this while we were younger. This is the reason we do not have family photos nor any of her 'nick knacks'.
If a guy smashes his TV it means he has self control issues AND he's dumb as a sack of hammers. Because a new TV ain't cheap. And as bad as the video game thing is, it's understandable, whereas getting so angry your sports team lost is the dumbest thing ever. You really think that raging against an inanimate object is going to help you feel better? You think the team/referee would care about your opinion and anger even if they knew you'd done that? Lol! Wow. Stupid level 10,000.
If you see this in any gender, everyone should avoid this person. Not sure why this is just women ve afraid of men that show violence. Everyone be afraid of violent people
It is much easier to k**l a woman. While some men gets abused the odds of getting hurt or killed is way worse with a male partner
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Wanting you to not maintain close relationships with others- friends and family. This tends mean that they're try to isolate you and control every aspect of your life.
It may not start off so obvious. Even an annoyed *SIGH* whenever your family and friends call is enough of a warning.
I'm dealing with this right now. A friend has a new BF and he doesn't want her talking to me anymore. So she doesn't because she doesn't want to upset him. So I lost a friend. It feels like someone died.
try to let her know that even if you don't talk at the moment, she still has a friend in you. She might need help soon
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Animals don’t like him, consistently flinch away. It usually means they sense the predator in him or are being abused themselves in secret.
Reddest flag. Being harmful towards those who can't defend themselves, regardless of who and why. That's just evil, no discussion, no place for them in my life.
Not always-one of my foster kitties (who turned into a foster fail) had been severely burned as a tiny kitten. She was scared of men for the rest of her life-fine with children and women, but she wouldn't stay in the room if a man was there, even if it was one that she'd met many times previously. She was on edge and easily startled each time. No one was ever caught, but the shelter think it must have been a man/men/male teenagers etc that did it, given her reaction to men.
Burned as a kitten...this poor thing! Thanks for giving this little soul a better life. <3
Load More Replies...I'll add something to this. I think even if an animal is disturbed by a new person being around, how that person reacts to that situation says a lot about them. If they change their behavior to be less intimidating and have patience for the animal to adjust it shows empathy and maturity, in my opinion. If this happens....
"I'm suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog when it doesn't like a person." - Bill Murray
Always trust animals and small children they can sense when someone doesn't have good intentions.
What if they are scared of dogs , dogs can bite. Dogs can sense fear.
Im a man, but I would like to tell you some warning signs to look out for straight from the horses mouth. If he has an issue with women making more money than him, or doesn't like it when you contact friends or family that's a major warning sign. Trust me, it WILL get worse over time. If they keep trying to get you alone, when you said you don't want to you need to run. This last one will seem obvious, but if he shows irritation when you put a coaster or something over your drink, he's definitely dangerous.
Oh! quick Story! Me & a friend sitting at a small local bar hanging. Dude and chick sit down a chair away and introduce themselves to each other. Clearly first date type stuff. 30-40 min later I still eavesdropping cuz clearly she began to be not interested and he ain't getting it. Not sure exactly how it came up, but she put a coaster over her drink and he goes, "Ohh come on, I'm not one of those guys, you don't have to do that." And she goes, "The reason it's on there is because you..." Watching the realization that he's the creep was glorious lol
Seeing this reminds me of one I heard years ago, and agree with. Watch how your male relatives and friends, and other men whose opinion you respect, react to him. Do they accept him, or are they even slightly stand-offish? Men can sense things about another man that a woman might not (and the same is true if the sexes are reversed).
If you are scared of him. Trust that gut feeling.
Why would you continue to spend time with someone you're scared of, if you don't have to?
Because leaving will get you killed. https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offender-relationship-2021
Load More Replies...Similar, not similar, I was getting sick around my bf - not because of him poisoning me but because my gut instinct in situations that are not cool is to throw up. This was happening too many times.
There's a book called 'The Gift of Fear-Survival Signals That Protect Us From Violence' by Gavin de Becker, which is all about trusting your gut instincts.
I've read that book, it's fantastic, there's always a reason for your gut feelings and it's often stuff your subconscious has picked up but you can't put your finger on, yet you know something is off. Like when Bundy was wearing a sling and asking women to come and help him get his boat from the car. Bet most of those women thought thisnot right, why is he asking women to carry something heavy and how is a man in a sling going to sail? Over rode with compulsion to be polite and were killed for it.
Load More Replies...Some people don't realise it's fear that they're feeling - they think it's excitement and dive deeper into the relationship
Some people don't recognise that it's fear they're feeling - they think it's excitement
Not respecting your boundaries. Someone that shows they don’t respect boundaries you set around small things (topics of conversation; how personal you’re comfortable getting; touch; etc) is not going to respect larger boundaries. If you say no to anything and they push you on it, bye.
When you try to establish boundaries but they say "So? Who cares!" or "I don't care." Run.
Pay attention to how he treats people who he has nothing to gain from or have less social status/money. Make sure it isn't performative. He doesn't see you as an equal either and that will show up in ugly and unexpected ways.
Treat people the way THEY want to be treated. Not about to make goofy lewd jokes with an elderly guest at work unless I know her. People let you know how they expect to be treated.
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He refers to his exes as "crazy".
Which means he's the common denominator. I've often asked, "Wow, I'd love to hear her side of the story. Would your stories match?" Cue that deep silence that he's guilty and lying. That's all you need to know, then just walk away.
I refer to one of my exes as crazy, cause she was. She met some new friends, started using c*****e, started stripping, then she started hitting me fro nothing. She cut me with a knife and burned me with her curling iron. One night I woke up because she was just hitting me, I have no idea why. Eventually we broke up and I got away from her, but I don't know why I stuck it out for almost 2 years.
And yet the common denominator. My ex bestie - all her exes were evil, and so were all the people she had fallen out with, especially the one she assaulted.
If I seek a common thing about my exes, which are of a very limited number, it's that they're female, about my age, and seemed compatible enough to try. Of the four this applied to, I still have contact with only one. We should have stayed friends altogether, without being spouses, braking up and being angry and such ... didn't bring out the best of either of us. She's certainly not crazy. None of them are or were, at least as far as I'd be in the know thereof.
Any attempts of intimidation whether physical or mental. Hitting a wall near your face, pushing you shaking you, trying to scare you with mental tactics.
The violence comes with the subtitle "That wall ciuld as easily have been you face"
Did you have a younger brother f*****g with your brain when you were sixteen yo? That door still has my knucles marks 😓
This isnt about childrens quabble. This is about grown men hitting walls with the face expression of "See, that wall could have been you. Behave."
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Rigidity.
He has to have everything his way and to his specs and be right and be the good guy all the time, no exceptions.
It's the men who can't handle even minor emotional discomfort who get overwhelmed and last out physically when there's a real conflict.
And if they gets overwhelmed it will be your fault, as will any damage he causes during the meltdown.
Legitimately, right wing or even moderate political beliefs. I'm transgender, and I'm a woman; I can't be safe with anyone who thinks my rights or validity are up for debate.
Extreme political ideology on either side as well. Life is too short to idolise politicians.
I tend to stay away from anyone who "enjoys" politics... Seems to make life happier
Load More Replies...So basically the op just says anyone that disagrees with my political views is a red flag. Right or moderate, if not left i can't feel safe...
When a prevalent "political view" basically says people like OP shouldn't exist, then yeah, I'd say that's a red flag. Such a view is not "moderate" by any criteria I'm aware of.
Load More Replies...Dangerous political mindset to live in. Not so much the dating right wing people aspect, that I get. Moderate is very vague term and encompasses people who are adamantly for trans rights. Up to the person, I suppose, though. I'd be worried about living in an echo-chamber, myself.
Worried about living in an echo-chamber? Will you listen to yourself?!!
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Yelling to make a point instead of discussing things.
In those instances I know he’s trying to scare me into shutting up. It works. I also don’t want to talk to him anymore.
Actions and speech do not align. Actions and attitude do not align.
I know a lot of people say "anger issues" but some men don't even get angry before they verbally or physically attack you. They do it with a smile on their face.
The Narcissist's Prayer. That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, its not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
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If he starts speeding or driving wrecklessly just because y’all had a disagreement, that’s a red flag 100%.
My dumb a*s shrugged it off and blamed myself for his behavior. I told myself, “if only I didnt say x,y,z” and I just want y’all to know that this sort of behavior shows that he isn’t afraid to take you down with him. It shows he doesn’t care for your safety or value/respect/love you. And it shows up subtly in other ways in the relationship; whether it’s consent, your money, your time, not comforting you when you’re scared, or straight forwardly taking his anger and aggression out on you later down the line.
Ya gotta thing about what it says about him to not care for basic safety over just an argument.
Is it an RX-7? Because if it's an RX-7, and he loves you more than the car, that's a warning sign of total madness. (/s, if that wasn't obvious)
Load More Replies...Or when they lose it over something that's entirely beyond your control. One time my ex-husband and I were going for a day out. It was about a four hour drive away, and about two hours into the journey there had been an accident on the motorway. We were sent on a diversion that took us considerably out of our way. The further we went the angrier he got until he just exploded. He screamed, he shouted, he threw things at me. You would have thought that the motorway accident was entirely my fault and the diversion was my fault. I was accused of everything under the sun. Apparently I'd ruined his day. When I told him he'd better stop stop the car so I could get out and make my own way back home his mood changed in an instant. He "didn't mean any of it" and he was "just joking". I didn't find it very funny.
Don't know why you got down voted, I also prefer wreckless driving, as opposed to reckless driving. Amazing, the difference one letter makes , it changes the whole meaning of the sentence.
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Holding sexist opinions and being incapable of controlling their anger.
A quite small thing to notice, but a huge red flag I’ve experienced is if the guy constantly walks in front of you, or talks over you every time you say something. If you’re walking together, and he never walks beside you, and leaves you behind- run. It’s a very subtle thing to notice, but guys who do that tend to have ego issues, or don’t respect women imo. And the talking over you, is quite an obvious sign.
I can't say I've considered anything other than adjusting my pace to match while walking side by side so we can talk with each other. I guess that's the problem: they don't want to talk with women they date, haha. Losers...
I've had men do this to me and wondered if they were embarrassed to be seen with me, but then why ask me out? Or are they cheating and don't want anyone to see us together. I would love to know why men walk ahead of the woman they're with because when I've asked them, they can never give me an answer, but it feels so dismissive and disrespectful.
Load More Replies...I know so many couples that do this, the men always use the excuse that 'she walks to slow' like the idea of walking slightly slower to match her doesn't even occur to them. It almost seems like they're just embarrassed to be seen with their partner.
Everything is not disrespect. People bring a lot of actions Nd behaviours to a relationship. By itself, if someone starts walking in front of me, I’f be fine.
Sometimes when you feel like a victim it's all in your own head. Not exactly the same thing but if you can tolerate it, listen to the poor hosts on Fox for a few minutes to see how terribly put out they are.
Load More Replies...My husband would always walk in front of me, usually because the sidewalk is narrow, or I am feeling unwell and he knows I need to take my time. Sometimes its because he wants to feel protective. Never once was it a dominance thing. When health conditions change the stronger one goes first and encourages the other.
My hubby often walks in front of me because he is about a foot taller than me and naturally takes bigger strides, and whereas I like a pleasant stroll he thinks everything is a race. I have to practically run to keep up with him sometimes. Other times I just take my time and he just has to wait for me. My ex-husband used to constantly talk over me and dominate every conversation. Often I couldn't get a word in edgeways, but he was a narcissist who just had to be the centre of attention at all times
I had my dog always walking in front of me. To check. Okay, I get it. Walk hand in hand, how about that?
Stalking. That was some terrifying s**t. Even when you remove all forms of contact with them, they’ll still find a way to watch/intimidate you.
Not stalking, but Ilike to watch people while they dont know that I am there...Nothing voyeuristic!
@Abel. Is that your camera I found in my office overhead?
Load More Replies...A friend of mine would come to school in tears; she told me that a guy was stalking her, showing up everywhere. She called his work and handed me the phone - I said "if she shows up in tears again you expect a white van will show up and 4 people will beat you with baseball bats" he tried to tell what he was trying to do; I just said "baseball bats". As far as I know, he stopped. This was back when I had been out of the USMC for 10 years and had not really fit back into society
After I left my ex-husband, despite my best efforts, thanks to the carelessness of my own mother he managed to track me down and he made the following year of my life a misery. He bombarded me on a daily basis with unwanted gifts, letters, phone calls, text messages and emails (even after I changed my phone number more than once) He routinely turned up at my workplace posing as a customer. I kept such a low profile that I was practically invisible but I swear he followed me everywhere. No matter where I went; to the supermarket, to the doctor's, he popped up there too. The police didn't want to know. They basically implied that he could do what the hell he liked to me because he was my husband. He finally backed off when I attempted s*****e because I couldn't take any more and I thought it was the only way I would ever get him out of my life. Maybe he'd got bored or maybe he realised he'd gone too far.
Rampant jealousy over the smallest things. Interrogates you every time you go somewhere without him.
Insists you let him track you on your phone. It's fine if you mutually agree to track each other for whatever reason (we do for travel safety reasons because I like to drive places alone - nowhere unsafe, we just like to make sure I get there and back!), but if it's a REQUIREMENT, run.
If you get that weird sinking feeling when near him. As humans we still have many instincts, and may be picking up tyings subconsciously.
Breaking stuff when angry
The look sometimes (the way he looks at you I mean). Idk how to explain it. But the way someone looks at you sometimes it's just unsettling. Happened to me once and I had to pretend to change trains in the subway because something felt just too off.
Gaslighting.
Just off the top of my head.
Always trust your gut feelings and instincts no matter how stupid/random or weird they seem.
If they’re too quick with you. Like if they immediately start love bombing you with overly compliments or gifts. I know this might not seem harmful to some people but to others this is usually a manipulation tactic. If they’re too quick to turn a conversation into something sexual and start off convos that are too personal about ur s*x lite. Basically disrespecting boundaries and becoming too touchy. Also it’s really just much of an intuition thing.
Just a quick note, this is different than the honeymoon phase, where couples tend to get really into each other then suddenly cool off after a few months once a certain level of comfort and security is reached in the relationship. This is why this red flag is so maliciously disguised at first. You can ask the person to kindly cool it with the gift giving for a bit, or reserve it for special occasions, like holidays and birthdays. How they react to that and whether they actually stop will give you a sign if they're genuinely doting on you, or if it's manipulation. But the other strong factors will also be there, such as the unwanted smothering. Some people just need to be told when enough is enough.
I sometimes worry I might be love-bombing my barista but all I really do is tell her how good she looks (my being 76 and her 36 is a sore point for me but she does not care). I just ran into her earlier today and going gaga over her tattoos and I said "I want to read your body" without thinking. I think I might be going to hell - I really dislike May/December relationships but... I asked her if I could cast a mask of her face is how this all started *edit: I work in warm glass
And they are always in full agreement with everything you say and they can't wait to walk you down the aisle and it's only your 2nd or 3rd date. They want you to commit to them quickly so then they can drop the act and start treating you like c**p and it's harder for you to walk away.
Disrespect for another person's no. Change a guy's first date plans and see how he reacts. "No, I'd rather not meet Wednesday, can we do Friday please?" Or "No, I won't be drinking tonight, I'm driving," or "No, let's not meet at the coffee shop, I'll be hungry, let's do pizza."
Respectful refusal and a constructive conversation is one thing. "I work late Friday, sorry," is a respectful answer and the conversation can continue. "WHAT?! Why? But Wednesday would be perfect! Why can't you just move your plans?" is a little unreasonable. *"Get her a rum and coke"* after I've just said I'm not drinking is a flaming red flag. (Which has happened.).
Sometimes guys get angry if you won't drink, because their intent is to get you drunk & vulnerable.
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Selfishness, anger issues (one of my exes very nearly destroyed all my make up, I was not thrilled), they insult you or berate you, become aggressive over minor disagreements, they attempt to isolate you from friends and family, men who say all of their exes are crazy, if they encourage their friends in bad behaviour instead of calling them out, and too many white lies about dumb things.
the list is so big, but this is what I can think of from the top of my head.
people lie full stop - for any number of reasons, not all being malicious. That said, most of us have an instinctive twinge when there's maliciousness involved.
Making sexual remarks very early on and not changing tact even when I've made clear that the remarks are offensive.
It's change 'tack', not 'tact'. It's a change of direction, not a change in diplomacy. And before you all start in on the 'grammar Nazí' nonsense ask yourself: would you rather have someone quietly tell you the correct expression, or have them let you go through life getting it wrong?
I came here to make the same comment, but I prefer "Grammar Gestapo"
Load More Replies... Coming from an emotional abuse perspective: Both emotional and physical abuse can lead to life long trauma or even death by his hands.
Everything in his life is someone else’s fault. Tells you you are different and you make everything better……. But one day “you” become the source of all that is wrong in his life.
Love bombing at the start of the relationship. That’s not love and affection, he is getting his grips on you to control you.
Promises the moon and the stars….. but doesn’t take action, always has an excuses or “that is not what I meant, you heard wrong”. Believe their action always over their words.
“No one loves you as much as I love you” No, he means no one wants to control you as much as he does.
“You have to support and agree with all that I do or say or you do t love me” No, it is your natural right to have differing beliefs and opinions.
“If you don’t do this (sexual act) that means you don’t love me” No, your body your choice. You have every right to set boundaries and expect respect.
I wish someone had told me all this 20 years ago. So wise now. In fact I don't even bother with men anymore because so many are just horrible and I've found it's just not worth it. If a man is being nice to me now I just assume he wants something from me and I'm being manipulated.
'Believe their action always over their words' - that's a guiding principle in my life. A persons actions bear out their real personalities and beliefs.
All love bombing is is accelerated courting from your grandmother's day to suit modern times. Men know (the vast majority of love bombing is by men) that women like to be dated & treated nicely before they'll have s*x and trust him, deservedly or not, so they cram 6 months of courting into 2 weeks. It will stop when women accept they're just trying to get into their pants/bank account/sense of safety and dump them
I had a man I was on a date with. We were talking about materialistic things and I told him Idc about name brand clothes or shoes or any items. He literally bent down (we were at a restaurant) and pulled my feet up to see what kinda shoes I was wearing. Then he went on to ask me questions that were already on my profile. And when I pointed that out he said he was making sure I knew myself. During the entire date he kept saying how he wanted to have s*x and most women in my area are very religious and conservative. At the end of the date he walked me to my car and a group of people were just walking by. He was about to ask me to go to his place but he stopped and looked around to those people. He changed the topic until they passed (while he was mid-sentence) and then changed it back to inviting me to his place (mid-sentence again) after the group passed by us. He was a walking red flag! Glad I didn't go on any more dates or to his place.
Edit: Grammar.
"Most women in my area are very religious and conservative" That's a funny way for a man to say women are free to tell me no and I'm angry I can't change that.
Drinking a lot. Puts you down in front of others. His way or the highway.
"His way or the highway" is what I call a yellow flag: you might not be in danger, but they're not ready for a relationship.
I disagree. If everything has to be their way or they'll walk away, they're literally telling you that they will control the whole relationship including you
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- Impulsive behavior
- Mansplaining
- Controlling
- Goes through phone/journals.
"'Mansplaining' is now in the dictionary. For the benefit of the ladies in the audience, a dictionary is a book of words, listed alphabetically..." Jimmy Carr.
OK. I must now stand corrected. Jimmy Carr does, indeed, appear to have a funny joke.
Load More Replies...I agree with these, but the impulsive behavior one is subjective. Depends on the impulsive behaviors I think.
Yeah, booking a surprise weekend away is great; jumping in front of a train to see what would happen, not so much
Load More Replies... Consistently feels the need to tell you he’s a “good guy”.
Also how he treats people, such as waiters.
Backs you up against the wall then punches the wall while he's shouting at you. Then he says, "I'm nicer than most men. Any other man would have punched your face". "uhhhhh? Gee, thanks, honey?" And people wonder why I choose not to date.
I hope this isn't a specific incident that happened to you O_o
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Whiney behavior, telling you you "owe them" for being so hot or something like that.
When everyone in their except for them is to blame for every problem.
Someone who can't take responsibility for their actions is a big no from me.
When they make sexist (or other type of discrimination) jokes with their friends or brag about how many women they have been with.
Also when they are nice with you but rude to service workers or other people in general.
Or a rude and/or dismissive to women they're not attracted to. Shows they're probably only being nice or respectful to you because they want to sleep with you. They are often the ones who will call you an ugly, fat b***h or ghost you when you make it clear you don't want s*x.
Oh the bragging about their "body count" is even worse when they are mad if you aren't "pure" for them.
Expecting you to be their therapist. Whether you’re their friend, girlfriend, or stranger. Like, dumping all their problems on you all the time without asking if you’re in the right headspace for it and never caring if you need any support.
Doesn’t have any friends who are girls. I know this may be controversial, but if he genuinely cannot have any women who are genuine friends who he doesn’t fall in love with, I can’t trust him to see women as people.
Edit: I’m going to clarify for my second point that this also needs to be paired with him believing men and women can’t just be friends. If he’s open to being just friends with women and just happens to not have any, particularly if he has a small friend group in the first place, then that’s not a red flag.
I never understood the "can't just be friends"-fairytale. They never even try to give a reason, even if you ask them, they won't come up with anything that carries that far. Cos there isn't. It may happen, but I haven't come across a woman or girl claiming this, it's only a very specific breed of men I have witnessed sharing this belief of theirs.
The reason: Because MOST men find a woman giving them friendly time of day as more than friendship, and it turns into a very one sided attraction. Usually with the man thinking the woman is into him and calling her a tease or other more harsh nonsense when she doesn't respond to unwanted advances. Woman then learns that she never really had a friend, just another man that thinks if he waits on the sidelines eventually he'll get laid. I feel like you understand this very well DC, and just choose to make ladies uncomfortable by trying to make them say it to your face. Women can probably see through you, and don't like it.
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Not taking your expressions of discomfort or concerns seriously when telling him about another man who makes you uncomfortable. If they won’t listen and care about you when you’re just talking to them about things you sure as hell can’t count on them if something actually happens, and you also can’t trust them to know what is appropriate and act accordingly.
If he has very anti feminist vibes, it means he refuses to see you as an equal. That's a red flag for me.
Tbh my opinion is actually that sometimes you can't tell. He could sometimes be the nicest, sweetest guy and you probably overlooked a few irrelevant seeming signs... people could look at him and think "he is so sweet, he couldnt have r***d you. Are you sure?".
Came to chat with a guy at the pub last weekend. Good conversation, he offered to help the bar staff, all good. When I got my drink, normally I would have got him one as well, it's just what you do. This time, for some reason, I didn't. Shortly after he told me, absolutely seriously, that men created all of society, every single invention was made by men. When I disagreed, he called me a "feminist sexist", even became agitated. Left the pub for a smoke or whatever, returned, was all sweet. I just left when he went to the loo, and was glad not to have wasted money on such a person.
How can someone seriously claim all inventions were done by men? That's some serious dumbassery right there, learn some history.
Load More Replies...Sound advice: Occam's razor ("Aw he's such a good guy, he couldn't be bad!") meets Occam's broom. Bad people are, unfortunately, aware that red flags exist, too.
Luckily most are dumbasses who can't keep the pretense up for long
Load More Replies... Touching you without your permission: I do not care if it is in the thigh or if its just putting his had on your shoulder. If its a first date, second date, hell at all if you guys have not established touching you without permission is ok then he should not be touching you.
Pretending to listen: The lights are on but nobody is home. They will be smiling at you and nodding at you. But for some reason they are not giving much impute into the conversation or if they do its to change the subject.
Talking about the wrong things when they do talk: Talking too excessively about taking you to their place or how they will "treat you right", trying to convince you that they are a "real man".
Trying to find how much you cost: Acting like they can buy you, talking about how much money they make or buying you things.
Superficial: Overly complimenting how you look or what you are wearing.
These are signs that the person you are with is objectifying you and does not respect your feelings or space.
This "asking permission" is a whole new concept for some people. Like me, married for 30 years until recently. I'm not 'dating' anyone yet, but if I were I'm pretty sure I would not find it easy. Back in my day it was all about watching for clues, reading between the lines, more subtle signs. No, that wasn't easy either, and you'd risk being rebuffed if you misread the signals, but the basic rule was still that you didn't do anything your partner wasn't OK with.
As a woman, a tip I give to newly dating men of all ages is, when you're about to take the next natural step from kissing, just ask her "You ok with this?"; that's all that's needed. I'm sure I don't need to tell you this but if she so much as pulls away at any point, stop immediately and recheck
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Boundary pushing. If they can't take no for an answer, or get upset at no, that is a big problem. I actually think that it's wise to say no to something early on in a relationship, whether that's just " no, I don't feel like Mexican tonight. What I'd really like to eat is Thai food. " Or, " sorry, I can't see you this Friday. What about Sunday?"
If they take your no as an opportunity to negotiate, that's not a good sign. If they take your no around being alone, letting them drive somewhere, we're going to their house when you're not ready for it, actually run girl.
Negotiation to reach an agreement that honors your boundries is fine. You say "I can't see you Friday, what about Sunday?" Them suggesting Saturday, or asking "Is it just Friday evening you're busy? What about eating lunch together?" Is not a red flag in the same way pushing you to cancel your plans or turn them into a couples thing is.
This makes little sense. You tell them you want Thai food for dinner, and if they try to negotiate, it's a red flag? Men are still allowed to have input in what they eat and not blindly follow everything you say like a dog.
Yeah negotiating to me is actually a green flag because it means he has a mind of his own and is willing to talk to you about things rather than just force you to do things or follow along regardless if he wants to or not.
Load More Replies...Negotiating is fine, as long as its in good faith that the "No" is about a negotiable item both people want, and the details need to be worked out. When the "No" is because one person doesn't want anything, and the other starts accusing and acting a victim to manipulate the "No" so they can get what they want... thats the red flag.
My wife said if you want to know what kind of guy you’re seeing, hang with him when he’s drunk and watching his favorite sports team. He’ll show you how he handles himself when upset. Now imagine him more upset and about something more important and you’ll know what you’re dating.
That's nonsense. All it tells you is how he handles himself when he's drunk. I worked in pubs for many years: some of the nicest people turn into raging idiots when drunk, and some of the biggest arséholes turn into absolute sweethearts after a few drinks.
‘some of the nicest people turn into raging idiots when drunk’ … and if they’re like that in public with witnesses would you want to be stuck in a room with them alone?
Load More Replies...My alcohol tolerance is very high so getting me drunk is very expensive, and I don't like sports so I don't have a favorite team. Now what?
I think there is definitely something to this, while i wouldn't base my entire relationship on something like this, i do think it can show some red flags. I've seen a lot of men who go crazy when drinking, completely losing control and getting into stupid/dangerous situations and I'd definitely want to know if the man I'm dating acts like this so i can decide if its something i can/am willing to put up with. Also it's a well known fact that results of big sports events can trigger a huge rise in domestic violence so I see why people would want to see how their partners react to their team(s) winning or losing (if your partner regularly gets extremely angry and aggressive when his team loses then that's definitely a huge red flag)
I think its really intuition. Some red flags for me would be, if they got too intoxicated on our date (a drink or two fine but getting plastered?? no), if the conversation seems a little forced or they keep sliding in innuendos or sexual jokes, if they just straight up say “lets go back to my place” and its unprompted/not how the conversation was going, if they talk negatively about past relationships.
Contempt.
People can be entirely incapable of empathy and still not be dangerous. Somebody who feels contempt has no empathy AND they have decided that you are unworthy of basic human respect, or dignity.
Contempt is associated with a specific facial expression, where one side of the mouth is pulled up higher than the other (google image search for tons of examples). You might only see it for a split second, but when a person feels contempt it is very difficult for them to hide this expression. If you see it, be careful; you may be in danger.
Other than that, do they have anger problems? Do they respect your boundaries? Do they hold you responsible for their problems?
Isn't that a bit far to be taken from just some asymmetrical smiles? I have a next-to-non-visible scar below my lower lip, that makes EVERY motion of my mouth slightly asymmetrical, but without FEELING asymmetrical from within. Only if I smile at a mirror, do I see it. Now, does that incident at two years old involving a pulled-out drawer on ground level, gravity and me make me, somehow, dangerous? Really?
I just have a lopsided grin. Some refer to it as a sh!t eating grin
Load More Replies...The look of contempt is not a lopsided grin or a smirk. Those are achieved at the corner of the mouth /lip, in 'contempt' the whole half side of the mouth, the lip is raised. The nostril in that side might be raised too.
Not sure about this one. Empathy can lead to contempt, in my opinion, for those who act unempathetically.
If a person shows contempt to you, for you, they're not safe for you to be around. It goes further than just lack of respect.
Load More Replies... Overly courteous/chilvarious. Also too much flattery.
Look, I don't know, they always gave me negative vibes.
They're saying they're being polite but politeness is not whatever it is they are doing.
You know they want something from you (not necessary s*x). And I fear their reaction is you don't give it to them.
No. It's showing off how very much totally extreme curteous they are. "Look, BJ-owing 2nd-class citizen, I unclosed this door for you! Ain't I the sweetest, eh? I'm the sweetest. I AM THE SWEETEST!". That sort.
Load More Replies...That's a load of rubbish, my husband is now and always has been a gentleman, he was raised to be courteous and chivalrous and not just to me, but to pretty much anyone. I certainly wouldn't want him to be any different
Starting to realize half the posts on bp are just men vs women s**t to polarize and rage bait people.
I was widowed, coming up on three years this December. I managed to land an awesome guy and we had a great life together. I'll never date again, I married the best guy I ever knew, and I know I'll never find another guy even half as awesome as he was so there is no reason to look. I know I'd always compare them and that wouldn't be fair to the new guy. I'm honestly happy I don't have to get out there in Dating Land.
When their moods change in an instant and often over something really trivial. One minute they're Mr Nice Guy. Then somebody or something winds them up and they turn into a raging monster. Then they're back to being Mr Nice Guy again and they deny ever being angry.
Do the writers of BP get some extra salary payment if they write misandrist garbage?
Do men get some extra salary payment for giving us so many reasons we can put into such lists? If you don't like us calling you out, how about behaving properly? Plus, a lot of them were gender neutral, but you still put on that shoe. Great way of telling about yourself, wee boy.
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Load More Replies...Starting to realize half the posts on bp are just men vs women s**t to polarize and rage bait people.
I was widowed, coming up on three years this December. I managed to land an awesome guy and we had a great life together. I'll never date again, I married the best guy I ever knew, and I know I'll never find another guy even half as awesome as he was so there is no reason to look. I know I'd always compare them and that wouldn't be fair to the new guy. I'm honestly happy I don't have to get out there in Dating Land.
When their moods change in an instant and often over something really trivial. One minute they're Mr Nice Guy. Then somebody or something winds them up and they turn into a raging monster. Then they're back to being Mr Nice Guy again and they deny ever being angry.
Do the writers of BP get some extra salary payment if they write misandrist garbage?
Do men get some extra salary payment for giving us so many reasons we can put into such lists? If you don't like us calling you out, how about behaving properly? Plus, a lot of them were gender neutral, but you still put on that shoe. Great way of telling about yourself, wee boy.
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