People Share Unrealistic Requirements They Get When Trying To Find A Job, And Here Are 40 Of The Most Ridiculous Ones (New Pics)
Finding a new job can be really stressful. Creating the perfect CV, scrolling through countless ads, keeping up with the ever-changing marketplace—it's certainly a tough task.
Not to mention the companies that place unreal expectations on their potential employees. We've all heard them asking for years of experience for an entry-level position that offers very little to no pay at all. No wonder you get sick and tired of the whole process.
But don't worry. You're not the only one: r/recruitinghell is a subreddit where both recruiters and candidates share their ridiculous hiring experiences, so keep scrolling if you want reassurance that the universe hasn't conspired against you and check out some of its best posts below!
After you're done, don't forget to check out Bored Panda's previous post about the horrors of finding a new job.
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Apparently they have to offer open positions to prospective employees even if they intend to recruit/promote from within the company in a lot of places, or they could be dragged through the courts to be fined. I don't agree with the ruling, and it should be removed. A lot of companies ignore it as it is only enforceable if someone notices, but it is a sh*tty rule
Stop in person interviews period. No reason they can't be done by phone or facetime
I went for an interview where the manager already had her friend in mind for the job. She had zero interest in the interview. Someone else has to meet me instead. The worst part of it was that when I received an email to tell me I hadn't got the job, they decided to tell me I wasn't good enough because they felt I wouldn't get on with clients or suppliers. I met the customers that day when being showed around and they told me I'd be great for the job. One of the suppliers was a family friend lol.
I got jerked around for a position several years back. Was made to believe the position was mine and even met my new coworkers and toured the office. They didnt even let me know they filled the position. I had to call them after I didnt hear from them for two weeks and was unceremoniously told they went with someone else.
The university I used to work for requires hiring managers to interview a minimum of 10 candidates for the first round, and a minimum of 2 for the second round. That's a lot of people interviewing for nothing.
On the other hand, we planned to hire someone internal but another candidate blew us away so we hired them instead.
So true. They are just doing it to be allowed to tick the box “fair opportunity to all”
It's Really Not That Complicated...
in addition to having skewed ideas about fair pay, Companies also should make decisions based off of the feedback of the people who are doing the work, not an executive or board of directors who have no idea.
I'm currently trapped in this paradox. I have a maximum of 3 months of work experience over the past 8 years (chronic illness is a bitch) and everywhere I look for a job it is always "Entry Level! Must have at least 3 years in a similar field." SMH.
Same. But not bc chronic illness. Bc I chose to be a stay at home mom and now my kids are older and I want to go back to work. "You have a big gap in your work history ma'am... Can you explain it?" Me:"kids". "Well I'm sorry we really need someone that has a current work history..." Basically this over and over. I'm a molecular biologist... WTF?!?! I chose to stay home to raise my kids until they were teenagers and didn't need me to be there every single moment but I'm penalized for it now. Don't regret it one bit but yeah... Job hunting is a b"tch.
Load More Replies...I ran across a customer service position that starts at $12 an hour and you must have a bachelors degree, the job was scheduling appointments.
Translation: Making those annoying telemarketer cold calls, and getting paid per appointment. Put more simply, s**t job.
Load More Replies...Exactly. I've had job interviews, saying that they need an 'x' amount of years for an entry-level job. They don't like it, when I ask them why are they looking experiences from an entry-level person. It really doesn't make sense.
hirering someone who has not yet proven that they have what it takes to hold a job is a major risk, that all companies want to push onto someone else. Teaching someone new skill is a major investment for a company, since the person won't be productive from day one, and holding job interveiws is costly they would rather get a person with experience.
Load More Replies...AND anyone in an entry level position should get some helpful supervision and advice. You literally cannot “learn it on the job” and do the job well at the same time.
And when you hire someone fresh out of college for that entry level job, f*****g TRAIN them!!! Let’s get far away from management throwing someone into a job with even telling them what their login and password is! Training is what you get in an entry level job, and once trained you start racking up experience and new skills. Then you get to become mid-level, and move up from there.
My husband works salary and is forced 70 plus hours a week while his people under him make more due to hourly pay. He has 27 years corporate management. It's disgusting
Bored Panda reached out to Steven Mostyn, a best-selling author and CEO of LP Writers, a professional LinkedIn profile writing service, to talk about the disconnect between job seekers and hiring managers. He specializes in recruitment, resumes and job-hunting strategies, and for over 20 years has successfully coached hundreds into finding a new job.
According to Mostyn, one of the motives for setting unrealistic requirements is simply trying to find another worker who has the same set of skills and personality traits as the employee who left. “This is a massive mistake“, he said. “It is better for employers to have realistic expectations on hiring someone new for the role and train any areas that they will be missing. If employers fail to do so, they will never be satisfied with the new hire or have an open position for a very long time."
After 22 Online Rejections And Ghostings, I Finally Got An Interview! When I Arrived I Was Told They Had No Intentions Of Hiring Me And Just Wanted To Encourage Me To Continue My Education
In some states, you can sue them for wasting your time under the "False Promises" clause. If they say they are bringing you in for a job interview and they tell you they had no intention of hiring you but encouraging you to continue with your studies, that's a waste of your time and money.
This was probably one of those positions the employer planned to fill internally but was required to advertise and interview for. What a monumental waste.
Which one is it? (I watched so much futurama, but I can't find it)
Load More Replies...At least she was polite, instead of shouting at them and insulting them. It's always great to see subtlety still exists
Probably best use of time here is to shame them on social media so future applicants won't waste their time and the company will end up with applicants that have nothing better to do and won't be the prime people they're really wanting. They'll either get the message or go under, either way it's a win.
This reminds me of the shitshow that Japan's "opening borders" to students looks like...
Ooooof
Lived through this at several companies. Company cries poor, but then throws weekly happy hours for morale. Save the beer money and give people raises!
Are you serious? Happy hours? You don't know the half of it then. I have seen companies cry poor and then fly execs around on Gulfstreams while expecting everyone else to eat ramen and claim they couldn't possibly afford the outrageous rate of $20/hr. BTW, it generally costs $20k just to start the engines on a G5. For one flight.
Load More Replies...This is happening in our household. 4 guys in dept, 2 are relocated to another dept. 2 remains, 1 finds out has cancer. Out for treatment, but willing to work part time, noped, all or stay on long term sick leave til come back fully. Hubby doing all 4's work as best he can. Gave his notice for retirement last week. (For 12/31/2021 end date). Crickets from company......
Not counting the work that is outsourced and the layoffs that come next.
This is exactly what happened to the last "office job" I had. Someone quit - while we were *already* handling more cases than the average... the managers/bosses *confirmed in meetings and reviews* that the caseloads were too heavy. And then proceeded to say: "well, take this resilience course to figure out how to handle things" - when someone states that no matter what meditation/yoga/resilience exercises are in play, 24 hours of work cannot be compressed into an 8 hr day... they are now 'difficult' and do not deserve a raise.... and when that person quits because they refuse to work free overtime... somehow everyone ELSE is disgusted with you.
"Nothing more important than our rule and money. I'm rich, so I don't care."
That's Walmart, they use you like dirty poop paper and flush as many souls into their sespool of bigoted, racism slathered with patronizing sexism. Retaliatory and completely unethical ie. HR is the maintenance mangers mom. Or like management spouse brother working under them ECT. Hate Walmart
Another reason could be that employers often have too little tolerance for applicants who do not meet every role aspect. Mostyn agreed that it could be very discouraging: “The candidate may have tremendous skills, personality, and potential but might be overlooked due to unrealistic expectations by the employer,” he said.
Mostyn told us that if your talents meet the key aspects of the role, tell them all about it during the interview and explain what you can do for the company. “This can sometimes make the employers forget about looking at the nitty-gritty skills and make the focus on what is really important for the job,” he explained to Bored Panda.
However, candidates can also be too critical of themselves. According to this report, men usually apply for a job after meeting around 60% of the criteria, while women feel they need to meet 100%. But this also means that women are more likely to get hired since they make sure that all expectations are met.
I Would Watch That
You could actually give them a supply of bootstraps. They wouldn't know how to use them.
Load More Replies...Why does everyone think that "boomers" aren't looking for work right now. Not everyone can hold a job for 30+ years
I am a boomer and I've been through several layoffs and downturns. The longest job I ever had was only 12 years.
Load More Replies...Most "baby boomers" have actually been through many financial downturns and layoffs. Also, a lot of them are already retired, so don't blame this on them. These people turning you down are most likely aged 40 to 50 and are too young to be "boomers".
Actually, don't blame ANY generation! Changes in the economy can't be blamed on a previous generation. Nobody wants these changes. But things happen that are out of everyone's control. When my parents started working, companies were loyal, almost every job had retirement benefits. The economy changed after time and companies had to cut costs to stay in business, etc. That wasn't the fault of their generation.
Load More Replies...I think it'd be pretty fun to have a generational game like that where every gen has to try something from a different gen. Maybe it'll foster some kind of understanding, but if nothing else it'll be hilarious to watch.
Maybe it'll stop the generation stereotyping, blaming and hate.
Load More Replies...Why yes dear millennial, only if you promise to apply for their jobs (and do that job) that they did 30 years ago and see how quickly you have a mental breakdown.
A menial job where you could simply clock out at 5 pm and not give single thought to your work until you clock in again at 9 am, all for a wage that was enough to sustain a family household all on that single income? Yea please!
Load More Replies...*forgotten middle kid Gen-Xer rolls her eyes* uuuggggh they’re at it again! (Millennials vs Boomers )
Actually, most millennials aren't that bad. The "zoomers" are the worst offenders.
Load More Replies...Back before all this nonsense, where real people took the time to look at resumes, the interview was more about making sure the person was not a serial killer, or con artist. They would train people, you could work your way up. Today, working has become a privilege, you need to be over qualified, and you are diced up and inspected for any distant perceived slight whether on the job or not.
When was that?? I did hiring in the 80's and 90's. Our jobs were not minimum wage. I can tell you we looked far beyond whether they were serial killers!
Load More Replies...Absolutely... lumping people into a generational cohort is a recent development, and its just one more way to create divisiveness and bigotry. To lump everyone born in an 18 year span is ludicrous, as ridiculous as deciding that all the people born in a certain town are all the same because they live nearby, so they must all act and think alike. Enlightened people realize that the generational clap trap is not genuine.
Load More Replies...Well boomers who need to work are experiencing age discrimination, so there's your revenge.
Heck no! I'm a last years boomer, and I've had to put in applications off and on for the last 45 years. I'm retired now, but it hasn't been long enough since 1 had to endure the long, drawn out hiring process of even the smaller businesses that really didn't need such complications for the type job I did. After years in a Union, in working with upper management, I found that 90% of the time they already know exactly who they are going to hire, it's all for appearance only, and to justify HR jobs. I have young adult children, I know your struggles, I couldn't believe how absolutely ridiculous it has become since I was working, not long! My older brothers and sisters fought for justice to stop an unjust war they conducted with literal Draft Slaves. All of us lost family in that war for Corporate America. They brought them to their knees. Then they started using a mercenary army and propaganda and keeping people poor so they would have to join the military. We let them mess it up....
Why So Secret?
Because they want your signature in blood on the contract before they tell you that your salary is $12.50 per hour minus the mandatory fees: $1 for coffee money, $2 for heating, lighting and use of office equipment and $1.75 for cleaning your cubicle.
They're competing with other employers to see who can pay the least.
Because it depends on whether you're male or female, for starters
If the 'salary is competitive' they will publish it. If it is not, they will falsely claim it to be and then act outraged when I walk out on them. I am a valuable resource, not a slave.
I wish I lived in one of those countries where putting the salary in job ads was a common practice, it would save everyone so much headache.
Austria. there the min. salary is always included in the ad. then comes your years and experience in the picture for the extra €.
Load More Replies...“Commensurate with experience” Bring your A game negotiation skills or get underpaid.
Because competitive means as low as they can get it and not have you laugh in their face.
As an employee, employment agencies have regularly told me not to say what salary I am looking for. And I think, What is gained by this? Okay, I guess it's possible that I'm thinking I want, whatever, $50,000 a year and the company might say, "We can give you $100,000 a year" and then if I haven't given a number I can just say, "Oh, okay, if that's the best you can do." But if I'm expecting $100,000 a year and the most they are willing and able to pay is $50,000, why waste both our time going through the interviews?
Lastly, let's not forget new graduates. According to this study, out of almost 4 million job postings on LinkedIn, 35% asked for at least three years of work experience for an entry-level job. Steven Mostyn thinks that the laziness of the employer could be at fault here: “They do not want to go through the trouble and time of training and instead want someone ready to go. This might be fine for the short term, but the employer could lose big time in the future as a candidate with high potential could have done a better job.”
It's clear that expecting too much of your potential employees is harmful for everyone; companies can drag on with the search and applicants can experience a lack of confidence. Recruiters should be more realistic on what qualities the job actually needs instead of just ticking a bunch of boxes on the list. Just remember, if you have ever been in a situation like this, you can always turn to the r/recruitinghell community and share your own recruitment horror stories.
The Truth About "Nobody Wants To Work" (That We All Knew Already)
“Nobody wants to work”—-well yeah, not for the pittance you pay to work in your sweat shop and be treated like s**t the whole time. You have to stop saying you did anyone a favor just by giving them a job, because you didn’t. Besides, when you do someone a favor, you’re not supposed to attach heavy costs to it, like making them work in horrible conditions, with hours that never settle, for a boss who browbeats them, and never has their back when a customer harasses or abuses them. No, your employees are the ones doing you a favor by keeping your business running. Without them, you would be at your store/office/factory 24/7/365, all by yourself. Or bankrupt. Treat them fairly, pay them a fair wage, and you will be amazed at how long they stay, how hard they work, and how invested in their jobs they will become.
"Nobody wants to work" is a very moronic thing to whine about in a job posting but is also a convenient red flag for the rest of us that no one should work for that company. Thanks, idiots!
It was funny that in one of our largest news papers in Sweden, they (in the same article) claimed that farmers in Sweden had a though time recruiting during the pandemic since they could not fly in foreigners to work for 1/10th of a normal salary in Sweden. They wrote in the same article that a farmer put out an ad to hire people and the same day hundreds of people contacted him and 2 people took their car down there the same day to introduce themselves and apply. This is the same article complaining that they can't get anyone to work. Seems more like the HEAVY taxes in Sweden makes it impossible for our farmers to pay a decent salary so they need to abuse people from poor countries that practically work for free
The 'no one wants to work' refrain makes zero sense. Pay more and then people will want to work. It's called the free market. It seems very likely to me that the people stating 'no one wants to work' are very pro-capitalism and anti-socialism, so why are they struggling to accept that no one *has* to work for them, and that the market sets the price. If you can't buy what you want despite the fact you can see it right in front of you then you have to pay more.
Also, of course nobody WANTS to work. But like especially people don’t want to work for minimum wage while being screamed at by customers and scolded by managers.
Load More Replies...If companies want people to work for them, they need to be honest in their advertisements. If they are looking for part-time, say so n the ad. Some students and others can only work part-time and wouldn't apply for full-time. The same is true of advertising a higher salary than the starting salary. If they give a false impression of what the job is, they shouldn't be surprised when applicants turn down the offer.
I sent 160 resumes to jobs I was 100% qualified for. Each was specifically customized to the job descriptions. Got 1 interview for a temp position. There are millions of job openings for s**t jobs; the high-paying jobs get hundreds of qualified applicants.
I Just Want A Paycheck While Not Having To Join A Cult
Why would anyone otherwise be in a place of employment? It's definitely not for the "opportunities"...
not everyone feels this way...i hate to break it to you.
Load More Replies...No s**t I'm only here for the paycheck, that's why you're here too, a22hole. It's not because I find your company engaging not do I find your conversation anything to write home about. Only an owner of a business is there for more than a paycheck; the owner also needs to build the business - but they lash out with this master/slave, greater/good attitude and demand we all ascribe to it - building your business is a directorate-level discussion, not our problem as peons. I am a resource rented to you, not a cult-member.
Since most jobs are with companies that, themselves, are only out to make money, no matter how they have to do it, then why the f**k do employees have to pretend they’re saints who would work for free? No, we’re there for the money too, asshole.
I work in the care sector supporting individuals with mental health illnesses. I get minimum wage. Definitely not in it for the money but the individuals.
Load More Replies...My current boss is adamant that we do not work off the clock for both legal reasons and because she's a great boss. Which is why we work really hard, which sometimes means we want to work off the clock.
That's like people who try to shame artists for not giving them free stuff for "exposure".
Who Were You In Your Past Life?
To be fair, I went to an interview for a resource center that helped kids with learning or physical disabilities. She asked if I had any experience working with the disabled. I said "no." She said "Wait...I thought you said you have an autistic son?" I said "I do." She leaned over and said "That's experience....." Well Duh...(Face palm.)
This is why I actually love this question. Not all learning or experience is formalized and some of it, like yours, is invaluable. Hope you got the job!
Load More Replies...Ask a silly question, expect a silly answer. So many people don't know how to word questions properly.
I don't understand that question. Is it a badly worded question about job experience or experience related to the job (such as a web designer doing videos as a hobby)? Or is it a way to ask someone about their life outside work and then discriminate? One company refused to hire a very athletic qualified person because they assumed the sporty candidate would scare the other technicians weren't much into sports (I dunno, maybe they *all* had PTSD from being slammed into lockers by basketball players??).
It's just badly worded. They meant "life experience," and duh, it's all previous. Wording it this way sounds like they are asking about a "previous life" -a life before this one.
Load More Replies...Burn
Both questions are legitimate. And there shouldn't be any shame or blame to answer them honestly.
"Explain the gap on your resume" is loaded and not legitimate. Why does it matter if someone had some time away from work? The point is whether someone can do THAT job right now. Their previous work history is mostly irrelevant; where it's relevant is what experience they've had, but that doesn't require a work history without gaps.
Load More Replies...I seen a funny response to this question before (probably wouldn't try to use it in an actual interview...) but it was "I believe those are called spaces from the space bar"
Yes, I hit enter on the keyboard several times and wow, a gap appeared!.
Load More Replies...Never understood why a gap on my resume would be negative. I had enough money to be able to relax for a while, would be my answer.
If you took the time off to take care of your kids/parents, employers think it 'sends a bad message' -- that you're more dedicated to your family than your job. It's why so many women and screwed when they try to get back to work after kids. There's been research done on it, but I don't feel like finding and linking it right now. (Basically sent off same resume, with different reasons for gap -- 'caring for family' did worse than 'no one would hire me'.
Load More Replies...The pandemic has given a lot of us gaps on our resumes, so they can stop asking that question for any gaps between March 2020 and now, ffs.
Explain it? Like my mommy demanding I explain the broken lamp? "That's when I was traveling and not working."
I hate this question. It's always met with scrutiny regardless what your answer is.
Doesn't get asked in Equal Ops Interviews. Can only ask questions that are relevant to the person's skills, knowledge, qualification and experience. Not gaps in someone's career.
Load More Replies...So Inspiring
I bet he didn't buy coffee every day either! I'm sure that saved him about $45M right there 🙃
So 4 our of 5 should get me like 40 million, right? Okay to be honest I drink have a gallon of water a day, and non of the other things. So maybe 5 million and we call it even?
“You can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You say.. ‘Steve.. how can I be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes?’ First.. get a million dollars. Now.. you say, ‘Steve.. what do I say to the tax man when he comes to my door and says, ‘You.. have never paid taxes?’ Two simple words. Two simple words in the English language: ‘I forgot!'” — Steve Martin
Just slipping in the bit about... oh... getting 50 mil from dad... in between sweating and peeing.
Load More Replies...Not Sure If It Fits Here But Reminded Me Of R/Recruitinghell
I don't understand how HR got so influential. Their only job was to hire people back in my day. Now they make policy, etc.
I once had my a** grabbed at a work function by some dude I didn’t even know, and it was witnessed by at least 5 or 6 people I was standing with. The (male) HR director asked me: “Don’t you think this could have been a misunderstanding?”. WTever-lovingF????
I hate HR. Never felt they protected the employee. Always there to enforce the policies and gatekeep.
HR is paid by the company. Guess whose interests they will serve....
"No One Wants To Work!"
Employers who say no one wants to work don't understand the economics of supply and demand. There are millions of people without jobs out there, as well as lots of people willing to leave their current jobs. Pay more, increase benefits, make your job environment a positive one, and you'll be able to compete for employees. Don't do these things and you won't.
In my area I can assure you, they are desperate as some businesses have been forced to reduce their hours due to lack of coverage. They also do hire just about anyone who applies. The problem is, most of the applicants are younger people who think they can just stand in one place and IE run the register. They have no concept that there is other work to be done when you have a lull in your assigned job for the day. And when you basically hold their hand and make them do the things that need doing, they say they can't handle it and quit. People wonder why some businesses don't want even interview anyone under 25 anymore, it's because a generation of lazy youth has ruined it for them.
Load More Replies...Large corporations and their minions pouting and whining like toddlers when nobody wants to be their literal slaves. Gross.
Don't Know If This Has Been Posted Here Yet
hey now, I'm a Bill ! (did not have too, but I did ) !
Load More Replies...Ever refi'd your house or obtained a new mortgage. It's the same with the appraisal. They send out someone to halfway look at your house then they assess it based on comparisons to 4 or 5 houses that are nothing like it, on land nothing like yours, in areas nothing like yours. They do this so they can lowball your value. It's the same with competitive salary.
"Competitive Salary" means they looked up the lowest they can pay on salary.com and are offering you 10k under that. Whereas mathematically competitive would actually indicate a minimum of 68%xCAP (something above standard deviation in your market).
Competitive salary means we'll offer as low as we can and watch you carefully for your reaction. If you're a noob you'll say 'great!' if you're not, you'll make a face and they'll try a slightly higher number. So the competitive bit is how little they can pay you compared to other companies and how far they can push you.
"Competitive". Not "the best", "one of the best", not "good", not even "better than average". Companies who pay well say so.
Better Start Hiring Then...
You don't have to feel bad for the employers. That's okay. But please have a little sympathy for the employEES, who are working on a skeleton crew, doing double work, for slave pay, and getting all kinds of flack from both their bosses, and salty customers, because they're not doing their extra work quickly enough. The employees can't do any hiring or firing, and they have no say in any job advertisements, or misrepresentations therein (or in any repairs or stock orders). They literally have no control. It's not their fault. They're just cogs in a machine, just trying to pay their bills. So hate the employers if you want. That's fair. But PLEASE, be nice to the employees.
Coming soon to a job near you: "We've replaced your position with a kiosk/app/automated equipment. Your services are no longer required."
And many "people" are more than happy to let it happen. Self checkout now means 1 or maybe 2 cashiers (before pandemic) and I actually see people stand in line for the privilege of ringing up and bagging your own groceries. When it was suggested I go use them instead of standing in line, my reply "maybe you should hire more real people". I will not help corporations remove even more jobs via technology.
Load More Replies...Most would rather keep replacing the employees who quit than to fix the problems or improve working conditions and retain good workers.
One thing too many employers are guilty of is not being forthright about each job's ONGOING requirements and tasks. Be upfront with interviewees; you'll have less turnover. If people know what to expect going in they're more likely to hang in there instead of quitting early on.
Worked for one that used recruiters to screen and hire applicants. Didn't take the company long to ditch that plan. They were extremely racist and hired quite a few that had no experience in the field and no real interest in the position they put them in while passing up applicants with previous experience in the field.
I wouldn't hold my breath on those technological utopias. Still waiting for my flying car.
Load More Replies...How is it anybody else's problem that you're a people pleaser. And darn these generations who want to be paid fairly in better working environments i guess??
Load More Replies...And what are you offering then, Dave? A (chance to make up to) $12/hr and a free meal each shift? (Literally what I see advertised around me). Pay people enough so they can live and give them health benefits. That's not that hard for most companies, but they CaN'T uNDerStAnD noOnE wANts to WoRK???
Load More Replies...Hard Same
"Please fill out this form that covers everything in your resume but now you have to type it separately. Now upload your resume that covers everything in the form you just typed out. Now we required a cover letter to let us know everything that is already covered in both the resume and the form." *Error: try uploading attachment again or start over*
2 hours later...give up... want to come back later ... "...create a password.... *invalid password.... must contain...*
Load More Replies...The letter is either going to be a near copy of the last one or nothing at at. Read my resume. Interview me.
For me, my technical writing course just makes me want to correct everyone’s application forms lol
Load More Replies...I don't fully comprehend the importance of cover letters; if they make me stand out from the crowd, why haven't I gotten more interviews? If everyone is doing them, aren't we all just wasting each others' time? Shouldn't my resume, the my unique experiences, be enough to show how I'm different from the other applicants?
My cover letters usually go: Dear ???, Please find enclosed my CV/Application. Cybermerlin2000
Regurgitate the specs in the job advert. Important to use their same words or descriptions. HR or the HR app doesn't know much else about your profession.
I Have Been Interviewing With A Company For Over 6 Weeks And Have Talked To Ten Different Interviewers. Emailed Today Saying I’ve Moved To The Next Round. Finally Sick Of It
Oh nuh uh. Name and shame. This sort of behavior from a company is unacceptable.
The background on those error-prone and multi-manager interview processes is frequently an organization in absolute chaos with no true leadership and no moratorium on position jumping. They've just been handing your resume off to other managers because no one can properly define their scope of work or total BIS (Butts In Seats) needed to accomplish it.
But the next level of interviews was the swimsuit round, and now they've missed out!
Robert Half Being Called Out On This Linkedin Post
Robert Half is a joke. Right out of accounting classes (back when I was 20) and they wanted to put me in a position that required a CPA.
In my early days of being an admin assistant, I had an RH recruiter say that even though I typed 45 wpm, they told the client I could type 80. He said if I tried harder, I could make it to 80.
Load More Replies...I have had a few decent temp jobs with RH. I am an electronics technician with a focus on computers, highly skilled to the point where with only about 10 yrs experience in 2010 i out performed others in my field that had 20+ yrs on their aptitude test. Yet right now i cannot get a response from them when i apply for positions with the exception of random emails to be an administrative assistant... like wtf? I mean i can do it, pretty much was one as a temp duty assignment in the navy for a chaplain while waiting for tech school (got a commendation letter out of it too) but that is seriously underutilizing my technical expertise and honestly quite insulting. Would be like offering gordon ramsey a position as a burger flipper at McDonalds. He would be the best burger flipper ever working there but you can use him in a much better position recognizing his talents.
I had the same problem many years ago at the time I worked as a Telephonist I am Scottish I moved to England for a short time and got an interview but was told that they wouldn't be hiring me because of my broad Scottish accent that company would not get away with that now
Ive been very lucky. The agency I use and I have a great relationship. I've gotten hired at the three positions they placed me at over the years, so they get the placement fees and I get jobs. The recruiter I originally worked with got promoted to VP in the agency but will still answer my emails even though that's not her responsibility anymore. Of course since we both benefit each other and it's barely any effort to respond on her part that it's nothing special. And when she visits my current job to be a presence for employees she remembers me and we chat like old friends. Its marketing but I appreciate it. The small things can matter.
Robert Half requires contractors to sign exclusive rights employment contracts to keep the contractor locked into working for them. It's contractual slavery! As soon as I read the details of their contract, I walked out.
Another Way Of Putting It : My Quality Of Life And Mental Health Is Being Dictated By Others
And you get an interview and you say all the right things, it's the same as your last job and the company ghosts you, and you have no idea why.
In the past, people who didn’t get a job would politely write to the company and ask why. If they are nice people, the interviewer would typically respond with an explanation.
Load More Replies...I used to be a highly skilled ICT worker in full time employment since graduating university. Have switched jobs several times withouth problem. Lost my last job age 48 because of a merger. After that the only jobs I could get were temp jobs. In 5 years of applying for jobs since that time (while temping) I got ONE job interview (unsuccessful, I "didn't fit in the team" of on average 35-year-olds). Now even the temping agency does not want me anymore. I have given up.
rough. I'm in the same boat. Basically have to do stuff online.
Load More Replies...And on top of that everyone around you acts like it's your fault, as if, after college education and job interview trainings and all, it's still possible that you're doing something so wrong that of course no one will hire you, but no one can tell you what it is, either.
I just found a job after looking for months. There was about a six week period when I had at least one interview a week. What's bad is a few, including the one I really wanted, all seemed excited to meet me. They liked my resume so when they didn't hire me after meeting me it basically meant they didn't like me as a person. Being told that every week for over a month really gets to you.
Don't get down on yourself. At the second interview level the differences are minor. Congrats on getting that far.
Load More Replies...One thing I hate being told is “you’ll find something eventually, just keep trying.” Yeah sure, over 20 years of f*cking trying and for what exactly?
But your work/life balance is YOUR responsibility even though it's dictated by someone who couldn't care less about your quality of life and mental health. If you're miserable, HR told me, the onus is on you to fix it (her exact words)
I... Have never admitted that out loud before really... *is seen* I learned early in life that prolonged unemployment should prolly be in the DSM.
I am lucky to have a well-paid job now. 2008-2010 was absolutely devastating. I eventually turned to sex work in mid-2009 after I hadn't received a single callback. My parents said, "you must think you're too good to wait tables" but the truth was employers didn't consider me good enough to wait tables. It was demoralizing because everyone treated me like I was the only one facing this. In hindsight I was one of many, but at the time I was completely hopeless.
the worst is when you don't get hired and they seemed to be offended by something irrelevant... I've had interviews where they seem offended when you wear a suit, because they are so casual, and others for not being dressed up enough, because they want someone to really impress them. Of course this is speculation, because they usually won't say they're offended out loud, so you come up with all these other reasons why you didn't sell yourself enough.
Always scope out the culture of the company. Lean forward. Ask questions about the company direction, what they are doing now. These can also let you know if need to walk away.
Load More Replies...It’s more insulting to be ghosted by an employer than it is an online dating match. Research a company, send resume & cover letter, endure a phone interview, schedule, travel to and nail an in-person interview, go through two more, then nothing. No response to email or multiple VM’s. It’s ridiculously unprofessional. More 20-something’s have the maturity to let a potential date know they’ve lost interest than employers tell a prospect they’ve been rejected.
Enough Said
"I quit right now because my new employer is paying me $3 per hour more than you, so working here is costing me money" can't be called unprofessional.
Load More Replies...Nobody gave me a notice when I was laid off from my job of 10 years, given three minutes to gather up some things from my desk, and escorted out of the building.
amazon do this kind of s**t all the time. they bring in people to help with the christmas rush, then lay them off with no notice, at 3am
Load More Replies...Its because thats supposed to go on your resume and you can get letters of recommendation in exchange if you were a good worker. But yeah. I hate this too. Walk outs are a huge red flag, but some employers are full of crap so whats the happy medium?
Gave a 2 week notice, 'fired' 2 shifts before time was up. I came home with "I have good news and bad news" --bad news 'I'm fired'-- good news 'I no longer have to bust ass to be done with overnight job to be on time tomorrow at day job. The manager doesn't listen to time challenges.
In two weeks: you will notice that I have not been in to work in the last two weeks.
I used to work for a company that one day had a new CEO. He walked in, announced her fired a 20 year employee with no notice. After a few more announcements like that, I found a new job and walked out at the end of my day on a Friday with my resignation letter simply stating, "You fire amazing people without notice, therefore I fire you as my employer without notice." and never looked back. They are now bankrupt and I have my dream job.
Viva La Revolución
The problem with this scheme is that it involves working without being paid.
but you'll get experience and exposure with your mugface
Load More Replies...I'm going to the nearest library then. What're they gonna do, ask me to stop being helpful to patrons and correctly returning books to their shelves for free?
I did get a job like this. It didn't work out, but it was a little work till I got something better.
With sites like Indeed and LinkedIn, many employers will simply use the resume you've already built on that site. The process of becoming much simpler, and is worlds away from the greater difficulty of having to physically appear at the job site and submit papers, every time.
And Don’t Forget We’re A Family Here!
But you only get paid a minimum wage for one and should be grateful for the opportunities to get more experience on a wider basis.
"We"re like a family!" = you're expected to do work regardless of your actual responsibilities and for 'free'.
It can also mean that management has no idea how to delegate tasks or prioritize work flow.
It's like when people are freelancers, and someone who wants to hire their services says 'I'm not gonna pay you in money [cos I'm too damn cheap], you should be grateful for the experience that means you can charge OTHER people more' That's nice hon, but experience won't pay the bills
Once went to an interview when I was warned that there were inflexible deadlines and for 2 days every week I would be under intense pressure but the salary was commensurate with the position and there were other benefits.I was equally honest with my future employer and stated that I wasn't suitable for that position. A lot to be said for honesty on both sides.
"Flexible schedule" means you better be flexible, cause the company isn't!
Call It Childhood 2.0
It's not a legitimate question. I don't know why you're so hung up on defending this.
Load More Replies...The gap in my resume was a little something called the Great Recession.
Sick Of The Lack Of Professionalism
They couldn't even bother to proofread and correct the whole "interviewwith" thing. Spelling mistakes on social media are fine, spelling mistakes in official company communications are not.
And they probably just copied and pasted the same thing to every candidate.
Load More Replies...I really love this trend of calling out unprofessional companies. Call them out. Call out exploitative companies. I am here for it.
"We only want to hire someone who is sitting by the phone, praying for a message, 24 hours a day, willing to smile and put your best foot forward while we treat you like garbage!"
noone comented on that cringe password, "lovesci" lol wtf, no idea what sci is but still
I like how they tell you to dress professionally, and then also tell you to send an emoji
Well Now I'm Just Confused
It's clear: you'll have to count polar bears from a North Pole container. You can't leave the container or you'll be eaten. You can't be remote from your remote location.
Heat, furnish, and fully stock the container, plus pay me a decent wage, and I’ll see you at 9am Monday.
Load More Replies...How about "14.40-24.00 per hour' and we'll start you at "15.50. For a Master's degree
I see this on indeed all day long and competitive salary but when I look it up on Glassdoor it's like 26k-34k that's robbing me of my time and sanity,
Sooo much of this crap. They want you to start now, but once Covid abates, you are back to office drone. I checked one who would not give a home office location, but successful applicant will be required to start in-office once restrictions lifted. WTF dude, are you even the same time zone? Would like to know before I waste my time.
They meant to say that their work location is remote from wherever anyone is from...donno what place it is...Also, seems like they don't offer to work remotely.
Welcome To The Next Level Of Recruiting Hell
That's so illegal , I can't imagine any business being that blatantly racist... Unless they are trying to get shut down. No wonder there aren't any other comments. So obviously b.s.trying to get attention?
No, it's not b.s. Behind the screens there's more racism going on than you could imagine. In the Netherlands reporters went undercover to expose employment agencies who'd didn't even protest when the reporters said they were looking for employees, but they only wanted white people with Dutch names. A very substantial part of the visited agencies agreed to cooperate in this racism. Just a few of the agencies said that it was illegal and unacceptable.
Load More Replies...I temped for one company whose receptionist received incoming resumes and if she didn't like the look of the applicant the resume never made it to HR. I saw dozens of applications dumped in the trash by this judgmental twerp.
Disgusting. Please call out this company and/or file with the authorities in Texas. Texas has gone downhill since following tfg. Greg Abbott is a disgrace to the state and our country. You would think being a disabled man, he'd understand the illegalities that are occurring with companies like this one.
As big companies are takimg over the world, they become more and more immune to tge law. If your company makes the economy roll, people are way less eager to fine them
Welcome to post-racist America. It's always been like that. It's like that in California and you are in Texas. Enough said.
Not only in America, this stuff happens all over the place
Load More Replies...That’s For Getting Back To Me
Like my former tutor manager that, somehow, thought I was waiting by the phone with baited breath for her to call. Sorry! Graduated with a 4.0 and had recommendations up the wazzoo from my professors. And you thought I'd choose a low paying tutoring job over a career that pays decently. Later!
I believe you mean bated breath (holding your breath). Baited breath would be a mouthful of worms which may not help the job search
Load More Replies...Literally got an unsolicited invitation to apply to a job 3 months after they sent me a letter saying there were better candidates so we didn’t even consider you. Guess those better candidates all sucked ass huh?!
Happy ending for me - I brought my resume to a book store and the manager was very dismissive of me. Told me they're not hiring, have no need of me in not even a polite way, and I should go somewhere else. Almost a year later the same manager calls me up saying she's hiring now, do I want the job. I tell her Im studying full time now, so no. She insists that I can study and work at the same time. I say no. She continues to try to talk me into it and I have to be very firm that I will not work for her. It was a weird conversation but also satisfying. Should treat potential employees a bit nicer instead if rudely brushing them off I guess!
This happened to me two years ago. I applied for the job in February said they would call me so after a month i just figured it was a rejection. They later called me in October
I've heard of that before. Recruiter got back to the person so late, they were like I got another job I've been working at already.
So sorry Chanel. I suppose they want to pay you next to nothing as well. That's something I really can't understand about the States.
Haha. This happened to me. It was about two months. After I was hired, the supply clerk told me I was the #3 choice. The first person just left. The second realized after payday that she was making less than her last job so she left. I was just happy to be rid of Chuck at my last job.
Bank of America. You better still have your old job if you want to apply there.
Never-Ending Interviews
It's called they were looking for someone to put up with the BS of interviews because they were desperate. That's just wrong...
And if anyone is desperate enough to actually go through it all, they know they can take full advantage of you! Be prepared to be underpaid and overworked.
Load More Replies...You absolutely should tell that employer exactly why you withdrew. Take your stand so you will be heard.
HR trying to justify their own existance and making sure they never run out of work but can apear to be working. Pseudo work is what that is called and it is a highly costly way to do things
NINE interviews? Wow. We have 2, maybe 3, but no more. I mean, what do they need to know and who needs to talk to you? I get an interview with the manager and HR and maybe some people I'll be working with, and that's it.
They’re short of staff…yet they have what sounds like an excessive number of twats working in HR.
The rounds are pointless. You'd THINK logically several rounds was to vet someone - so whoever gets hired is just this INCREDIBLE fit for the job... so qualified, so adept, so.... yep... no... have worked at companies with upwards of 3 or 4 rounds of interviews.... and the person that comes in is still... usually... completely unable to do their job at the fundamental level... which makes me seriously wonder what the several rounds are really for.
I do not understand having so many rounds of interviews. Takes 30 minutes or less for an interview for most of our office positions. Only position that takes more than one is the director. Everyone else in our office had one interview and then you go into a 6 month probation period. I can't imagine. I hate hiring people because that one round on interviews eats up so much of my time as is.
Every Single Time
Banks are notorious for doing this. At least in my experience they have been. Every single one I've worked at allowed jeans on Friday if we paid five dollars toward a charity of the company's choice.
Load More Replies...As a kid I went to a parochial school. To raise money once a month they would have “Grubby Friday,” where you could pay a quarter to wear your jeans and t-shirts to school instead of uniforms.
"permission to wear jeans"... what the f**k companies do you people work for? I could show up in shorts tomorrow, in the middle of November and nobody would bat an eye (except that it's a pandemic and we work from home).
Yeah, employees want more money, not snacks, foosball tables, and a game room.
Welcome To Almost Every Company You Want To Work For Post-School
And that why "working for free" exists. So you can get that experience. /S
You're suddenly experienced enough when you work for free
Load More Replies...A lot of people used to volunteer where I work before they would get hired. I thought that was crazy.
It is called A Catch 22 Situation. You can't get a job without experience, you can't get experience without getting a job.
It never stops if you work for the Federal government and want to change jobs within the government. All applicants must complete a self-rating survey about the required skills for the job under the penalty of perjury. Only the resumes of applicants who answer all of the questions "I am considered an expert" have their resumes forwarded to the hiring official. The only way to be an expert in all aspects of the job is to have done it for several years.
Work at a temp company, for the term. If you're hot stuff, they see it and offer a job at a huge salary. Bonus is that you also had the opportunity to see what kind of company they are. Win-Win.
Can I Vibe?
I had one friend that got asked this in an interview. Her gap was due to taking care of her dying relative. When the interviewer got pushy about it, she stood up and said "a long unhappy personal tragedy that's none of your business" and walked out. Sometimes our downtime is none of your business...stop asking this question.
Not sometimes. Our downtime is never the employers business. What we did or didn't do while we were not in their employ is irrelevant (and as I said in another comment, unless it was something criminal, but in that case you will have notified them about being a felon like you are obligated to do, so still besides the point)
Load More Replies..."That's when I went to Yale for four years." "Yale? That's impressive. You're hired!" "Great, I really need this yob"
If you're applying for a position requiring a Secret Clearance, then yeah. They need that kind of information in case you were, like, cavorting with Communist Spies or something. But, for a position doing, Idunno, sales? Who cares?
I have a gap on my resume because employers keep asking about the gap on my resume instead of hiring me.
On my last resume after I listed ten or more years of applicable experience, at the bottom I put a list of places and times I had been traveling to make it clear I hadn’t not worked because I couldn’t find a job but because I was claiming a little me time. Not vacations, but the year I spent traveling around SEAsia, the year or so I lived in Bangkok, etc.
Load More Replies...My wife has been a full time mum for the last 6 years. Our son is autistic and hypermobile. She wanted to get back into the workplace as a teaching assistant for SEN children. So we put her last role on her CV as a full time mum. She now does 1 or 2 days a week as an agency TA. They saw it as having real life experience with disabled children. She looked after her disabled brother after her parents passed away. Thankfully the agency saw the "gap" for what it was
My answer is always "Do you think I'm less qualified for the job because I didn't work for a while? If so, I'll leave and if not, it's none of your business what I did."
What was I doing on my own time? Minding my own business. What an intrusive, unnecessary question.
I think the correct answer to the "gap" question is: "If I tell you, then I'd have to kill you"
Because they’ll really want to hire you then...
Load More Replies...This question, while understandable, always infuriated me because they got to place a value on it. I would say caring for a dying relative. End of discussion.
Not Sure If This Is A Repost
Come to work riding it. I hope they have elephant parking place with food and water.
Reminds me of an arcane law in the UK that is still on the books. If you ride a horse to work, your employer must provide food, water and stabling for said horse whilst you are at work. I'd like to included elephants into this law, I mean it's about time for elephants to be fairly treated....
Load More Replies...Keep it in the room at all times and point at it when an obvious major problem or issue that people avoid discussing arises during a meeting.
Get it registered as a service animal and take it wherever I want. So your company doors will need to accommodate my service animal or the ADA will be contacted.
Clever. But isn’t the ADA an act, not an organization?
Load More Replies...Can you refuse to take it b/c there's no way I'm set up to care for an elephant. I suppose a job is looking for an answer describing how you'll monetize it but that sounds cruel.
Won't happen. Everyone ignores the elephant in the room. Except when it's wearing lingerie. ^^^^^
Load More Replies...considering the cost of caring for one and the obvious financial burden of citations from the city alone for having an elephant on property.. I would permanently "rent" him to an elephant refuge for $1 a year
Report the individual who gave me the elephant and have a responsible agency return it to its natural habitat.
So On Brand
Maybe if they didnt waste money on all that and its upkeep theyd be able to pay employees jus 25 cents more even hhhh
My sister had a Halloween costume contest at her work and said the winner would get $2000, runner up $1500, and their place $1000 (it's a high profit business). I asked why they didn't take that almost $5000 and give out tiny raises to the lower end employees instead and she looked flabbergasted and said, "It's for fun, and they can win more money than the raise would be." They really don't get it.
Load More Replies...I'm not ashamed to admit I'd take a pay cut for dogs at work, provided we get a "dog hour" in addition to our lunch hour every day.
I wish we'd get an hour off for lunch. 30 minutes is standard.
Load More Replies...Unsurprisingly, millennials, like everyone else, like to be paid commensurate with their abilities and experience.
Worked at a place like that years ago. We had foosball, pool table, arcade machines, and you could wear shorts and flip-flops. Would have liked less of that and more money though.
Gee, I thought millennials liked to cover rent so they could move out of their parents' basement.
Happy hours at work = the company asking you to stay longer to cover your shift. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Thoughts?
Okay, IF I would be unpaid I expect the job to be, at least, astronaut for the upcoming moon mission. Otherwise, just sod it.
UNPAID, unpaid!??? You could grow your own food and be better off.
Whoever invented the idea that companies could even offer unpaid positions should be found and shot in the face.
And I'll bet the job isn't exciting enough for an actual masochist.
Load More Replies...NEVER accept a job that has been stated as "An UNPAID Position." They Abolished Slavery already
Why Is This True
Honestly, an "open office" plan made me miss cubicles. Sound-absorbent panels, some visual privacy, places to pin up ideas, my own meeting space... Open office plans are awful compared with cubes.
I liked cubes too. There was always a spot where you could pin stuff that people couldn’t see unless they came in to talk with you.
Load More Replies...Welcome to the life of a Prairie Dog... otherwise known as life on the Cubicle Farm.
An Employee Asked Me For A Raise But I Didn't Give It To Him So He Resigned. I Really Need Him Now For A Project. How Can I Get Him Back?
Ha ha, I had a former boss like this. Took his sweet time laying me off during a slow period, so that I went 9 weeks with no money coming in. Then had the audacity to phone me at my new job and demand that I get back there right away because he got a project in. When I pointed out that I had a new job, he insisted I come back and work evenings and weekends. I have no doubt that he moaned to people that I was one of those people who don't want to work.
Apologize, on your knees, head bowed. Double their salary. And pray they are kind enough to accept. (Realization that 'they' need the employee, and not the other way around is starting to set in. Glorious..)
Offer him $$$ as an independent contractor. Also, pay your employees what they're worth.
Call him, and ask him if he would like to work one last important project, and ask his price as individual contractor. -This could work, if you were respectful, and couldn't give him a raise as full time worker.
Come On, It’ll Be Fun!
I wonder what sort of response they were expecting when they put this out
I wonder what kind of drugs they were doing when they not only wrote it, but also approved it for release to the general public.
Load More Replies...This f*****g infuriates me! In the US, the airlines are CONSTANTLY getting multi-million dollar handouts from the government, and constantly raising their rates. They can get f****d.
For anyone familiar with Hartsfield Jackson Airport in Atlanta, [and actually any major airport I've ever been] getting in and parking is time consuming and expensive. Not only do you not get paid, you actually lose money by "helping". When's the last time any major corporation opted to LOSE money for employees.
Is voulenteer becoming the new phrase for "Unpaid labkr"? Geez. Going tk Sierra Lione and taking care of orphans is voulenteer work. Not doing something a pig doesnt want to pay employees for.
Can't use the term 'employee' interchangeably with 'volunteer' - except in the USA where work ethics and healthcare are designed by villains from Huxley and Orwell books.
Totally agree. I've been using the word "Orwellian" more and more to describe this country (US).
Load More Replies...I swear there's something about being in upper management that makes people delusional
What a great opportunity to waste time helping business to make profits..Of instead do some social volunteering cleaning animal pens in a community zoo for the entire day and be proud of it for being able to give back to the community.
Wise Words To Live By From Anime
Pizza parties indicates that you aren't going anywhere for lunch... Lunch is MY time. To have a fine smoke in the parking lot. Big smoke, lol.
Or even worse is a pizza party in lieu of a bonus.
Load More Replies...Pizza party meant that you were expected to get a slice of pizza and work through your lunch.
I once worked for a major air conditioning manufacturing company whose yearly bonus was a ham. One ham.
An employer that would always buy everyone lunch on employees birthday, stopped April of 20 when the Plandemic caused them to layoff 1/2 the staff. The remaining 1/2 had to cover the vacancies with no additional pay or compensation otherwise. Didn't even offer to continue the lunch for those that remained. I know the lunch thing is small compensation but little things can carry a lot of weight sometimes especially when you have loyal employees doing 2-4 times the work as normal. Some days, some people didn't get to take a lunch at all due to the workload, so, yeah, free pizza would've been a very big deal.
The joke of it all is that making people work through their breaks, and have them work many days with long hours makes them less productive. People actually get more work done in less time of they get breaks and things like notmal work hours (no regular overtime) and uninterrupted weekends off
Low Pay But Rewarding?
It's rare, but it can happen - when I first retired, I had to wait almost 2 months for my social security check to start being paid. Since I wasn't at my "official" full retirement age, I was limited to what I could earn in a year, and going over that limit would be a tax reporting nightmare! I took a cashier job at a local grocery store at minimum wage. It paid just enough to cover my expenses but didn't put me over the limit. Once I reached full retirement age, I quit.
Load More Replies...How can it even claim to be a best restaurant in tbe south when they pay so poorly. A restaurant is not just the food it prepares but it's also the happiness of preparing it a.k.a the happiness of the person making the dish. Do the restaurant owner likes it when there is desperate chefs in the kitchen with mindful of problems -- unless the owners don't care about quality or customer satisfaction. It's a shame to even write the ad, I feel sorry for the owners who don't understand the spirit of kitchen.
Them: What cooking experience have you got? Me: I'm pretty good on a barbecue and I do one pretty much when the sun comes out on a weekend for the last 30 years. Them: Your overqualified
Who has a master's degree (and all those student loans!) and is looking for a low income????
Easiest Way To Get Me To Not Fill Out An Application
Roses are red; Violets are blue; this is the dumbest thing; I've ever had to do
unless it is for job as a poet laureate I don’t think this is necessary. 😳
Load More Replies...There once was a person, it's me. Who hated dumb questions, you see. His favourite answer, was to kill the dumb b*stard, and hung the questioners body from a tree. And that's how I lost my last job. Oh, and that was less than 40 words. I don't follow orders well either
If this job is for a creative position, this is perfectly acceptable. When I was in charge of a graphic design team, that last question I used to ask people was who their favorite Muppet and why (or cartoon character, if they don’t know who the Muppets are)? It seems like a stupid question, and I’m sure many people thought it was, but it actually provides me with a little insight into the personality of the candidate. Plus, it’s a bit of a fun way to end an interview.
I'd like through my teeth and say, "Kermit" or "Big Bird". I identify more with Oscar: I need coffee to be human, I'm a terrible housekeeper, and I could probably sleep in a garbage can if no one has peed in it. Thank goodness I have a job already.
Load More Replies...Oew.. I'd go to town on this so badly! If it's creativity they want, I' give to them gladly! I'll make them beg me to stop, and give me the job.
Out-Longfellow the aptly named Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. Unless the job is for a news editor.
Load More Replies...I totally get your point but at the same time this is the first thing ever in an application form I would really LIKE to fill out...
I applied for a job that wanted me to write an essay about some inane topic, it was for a warehouse job. Why was this even relevant?
If it involved basic reading and writing skills, I don't see the point of writing an essay on an unrelated topic. If it at least has something to do with the work...
Load More Replies...Reading A Resume Of An Applicant? Sorry We Don't Do It Here
Today in breaking news: HR doesn't read applications or resumes and rain is wet.
The best one was a "sorry we didn't pick you"-email from HR that I opened in nightshift, on the same companys email. 😂
Load More Replies...Us Labor Statistics: " The Shortage Of Engineers In The Us Will Exceed 1.2 Million By 2026." Ok So Then Why...
I got laid off in 2012, spent the next TWO YEARS applying for jobs. Don't know how I didn't commit suicide (I already struggle with depression & anxiety) because 24 months of rejections or not even acknowledging your job application WILL DESTROY ANY self-confidence you thought you had. Yes, I did completely give up looking, deciding that I'd focus on raising our ASD, ADHD, SPD+ teen and ... I'm exhausted. And still very much depressed.
Fuller story here. I think the key thing to note is that she was not a software engineer, but someone who had done a 13 week crash course in coding, so an entry level candidate rather than an experienced hand applying for entry level jobs (as I assumed from the short version). https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/software-engineer-spent-8-hours-125221652.html
Entry level candidate applying for entry level positions. So the issue is the fact that they don't want entry level candidates for entry level positions - they want experienced candidates that they can *pay* entry level salaries.
Load More Replies...Not an expert by any stretch of imagination but 'engineer' and 'software engineer' may not be the same.
You didn't even read it right but think you're in the position to judge this person. Cute :')
Load More Replies...Somebody Tell This To The High-Tech Companies
That's what new hire probationary period is for, typically 90 days
At This Point I Would Be Happy Just To Receive A Rejection...
Accurate
Multi million dollar idea: Create a website where people can post reviews about how companies handled their applications. Would make for some good reading, I'm sure.
Personality Tests Are A Scam!
In the 80s and 90s employers did graphology tests to "see your personality"... I am left handed so my ugly handwriting was the reason for not getting a job :-)
Those “personality tests” are just employers looking to see how much they can exploit you.
Power Move
what is a one-way video interview? Is that some setup where they can see you but you can't see them? What would be the reason for that?
When I had to do one it was just me recording answers to the interview questions that were on the screen...I did not get the job, but I did get to talk with an actual person via video after that.
Load More Replies...More Inspiring Career Advice From Bosses. Overwork, Because It’s Not Normal To Want To Have Other Things In Life…
No s**t! The first poster inadvertently revealed how sad her life is...
Load More Replies...The best way to live the American dream, is to move to Europe and have a career, a partner, hobbies, the time to do the hobbies, and no worries about medical bills or unemployment or pension.
Actually it's not rare if you know what you're worth and won't take anything else. That's why so many places are having a hard time finding employees. People finally realized what they are worth.
....welcome to the grey sea of disappointment- where punishing waves smash into your week and sweep you across the surface....until you wash up onto a shore of brittle and broken ideas- only to be pushed through the meat grinder of employment until every creative notion or whimsical aspiration in your human frame is squeezed out of you. once your limpid, lifeless carcass has been thoroughly exhausted, you can have the weekend off to read emails and rota updates.....
Test Of Submission
I would have gone searching for the guy by 7.20 AM asking him if a was actually planning on starting the interviews.
What kind of idiot would hire people who would willingly sit on their ass all day without taking action?
Companies should be reminded that it is the employee, not the employer, who gives anway his time and workforce, and not the employer who generously gives alms to the unworthy workers. Messing with employees time as well as mind like this is not a sign of intelligent HR, but of utter ignorance. So the ones who went away definitely dodged a bullet.
wait, the worker produces the product and the capitalist profits off that? in other words, the worker creates the value? omg welcome to marx. You are now officially a communist. Scary.
Load More Replies...Gonna ask the interviewer how long he'd wait for a date to show up with no contact.
So, he wanted people who were either desperate to work, or who could afford to waste 11—ELEVEN—-hours waiting for him to end his little reindeer games. I’d almost stay and wait just to tell him what he can do with his job. He was probably only going to pay $12.00/hour anyway.
Is This Supposed To Be Inspiring?
This is not the feel-good, motivational story, that they thought it is. This is a bloody nightmare and soul destroying!
Employment agency again pushing the narrative that you should be grateful to get hired. Also adding a "succes story" to their achievements without actually having had any part in it.
What does this person mean that their “client” applied to 700 jobs? That’s doesn’t make any sense.
Job coach? If so, they're pretty bad at their job
Load More Replies...So your client landed a job through her own efforts, not yours. Wasn't that YOUR job?
I Hate It Here
Possibly did, because lots of websites have free contributions as their business model.
Load More Replies...It's the constant brainwashing that working for free is good that has damaged the US in so many ways. It's the reason why the US is where and what it is now.
Exactly what I expect the erstwhile plantation owners to write essays about. A direct attack on unionism.
Response To Your Job Proposal
Man the person who applied to this company dodged a major bullet by not getting hired.
In Conclusion...I would like you to keep me in mind for a job when my company goes under because, it turns out, my Brother-in-law is wrong.....
Embarrassing... That's two people who are going to be asking in a few months WHY they can't get business.
IF they're smart enough to learn from it. I have my doubts.
Load More Replies...I'm not a business major or computer scientist but I'm pretty sure a target audience is pretty important...
As A Naturally Optimistic Person, I Go Through This At Least Once A Week
The level of candidate ghosting is sort of unacceptable. I laugh when people still say you should ask for feedback on rejections.
What The Heck Is This?
I've never given references. Even if you were a good worker and left on good terms, your previous manager can still be a vindictive asshole that is annoyed because he had to find a replacement and will give you a bad reference. No thank you.
It's illegal in the UK to give a negative reference, in most cases they send a letter just confirming dates & position. If you get a job that requires security clearance, the employment history will be checked and confirmed going back 10 years. References are very important. It would look far worse if you didn't supply any at all.
Load More Replies...Hilarious. I will immediately summon a psychic to attend all our meetings in case you should need to ask Chuck a question...
Most companies won't give any real info, just confirm you worked there from x till x. Best way to really find out about someone is to find someone you know who knows someone that worked with the person and get the info from that person. That's when you'll find out if they are punctual and dependable.
No One Wants To Work For Condescending Pricks Like This. Shocking
I saw this as more of a joke about the difference between dressing for remote work and for an actual office with other people around. However, some people may feel insulted at the implication that they're unprofessional.
Load More Replies...There is no way this joke merits a label like 'condescending prick'. And what is shocking about it?
I've been working from home for years and literally never worked with no pants. In fact, fully dressed right now. Shocker.
More like accurate considering how productivity as decreased with people WFH when everyone touted it as being the opposite. Try doing anything with a WFH customer service rep and find out for yourself LOL
Productivity decreased? Any source for that? We haven't been to the office in 20 months, we're just as productive as ever, and some departments (ours) even more than normal.
Load More Replies...Spotted On Indeed. This Can’t Be Real… Can It?
i think that's a euphemism for "extra services provided to boss"
Load More Replies...I get to be fully available with absolutely no free time for $9.13/hour? Gee, where do I sign?
Wow. How Cute
The weirdest thing about me is that i refuse to answer dating profile questions on a job application 😊
I have an invisible finger. When I look at my hands there are 10 fingers in total (including thumbs) but when I put them in my pockets I can count 11
I tend to shoot employers who aren't willing to pay a livable wage. Quirky enough for you?
I prosses physical pain oddly. Sometimes it hurts, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it feels a little good. What's that? TMI? Maybe stick to the information related to the actual job you're hiring for!
I hate it when companies try to be cute. I worked during the DOT COM Boom in San Francisco's Gulch. I have had "cute" up to my eyeballs.
Could Very Well Be A Real Headline
While The Onion has been providing the best satire for years, this one simply rings too true to be funny. Sad that what usually should be an absolute matter of course gets so unthinkable it ends up as an Onion headline.
It's not too true. Employers aren't that desperate, they just pretend to get state benefits.
Load More Replies...The Onion is a satire site. These past few years, real life has been uncomfortably close to what they publish as satire.
Load More Replies...Jesus Christ...
Why do you need to take an assessment to be a dishwasher. Are the dishes going to talk back, treat you poorly or make unachievable demands of you? Will there ever be a time that you have to report a plate or cup for smoking weed in their car on their break? Are the forks and spoons stealing from the company? Are the soap suds giving you attitude? WTF?
I guess this is where those math word problems come in.
Load More Replies...Only 1 Question: Can you tell the difference between clean and dirty? Assessment complete.
It's a simple, short assessment. Can you make a beeping noise? The dishwasher beeper has stopped working, so you will be required to go "BEEP!" when you press each button
My wife has worked in the food industry several times and from things she tells me about coworkers, I do understand this one. Washing dishes in a restaurant is nothing like washing them at home and you'd be surprised how many people don't have a clue even though they work there.
Sundays Are Not Your Weekend
And I don't understand how you're not able to organize the coming week during friday. Clearly not professional.
Because you get a higher response rate on Sunday. The people you need to contact are available Sunday, not Friday. It wouldn’t be professional to intentionally have a lower success rate, that’s just silly.
Load More Replies...Because, unlike this poster, young folks realized the weekends should be theirs. WTF are you doing looking for job seekers on a Sunday. Go watch a football game!
I’m sorry you have no life. But I do, and let me clue you in to something; most of the people you’re bothering with your cold-calling on Sunday do also.
You send the email out Sunday so that people see it first when they check their email on Monday.
That's when you go into a meat sleep after enjoying a Sunday Roast :)
Load More Replies...Although people may or may not work on Sundays, they do on Mondays. So, if you send out your information on Sunday afternoon, you'll be toward the top of the emails and messages when they go in on Monday morning. Someone who sent their stuff on Friday will be down the list of emails or messages, as they all list from most recent to oldest.
Better Late Then Never I Guess
That isn't as bad as it looks. It means they DID store their information in case the right position came up for them
Yeah but databases should be kept updated to be any use. This is desperation.
Load More Replies...Um
Apparently, they will inherit the earth. In the meantime they'll live on slave wages and work for these buffoons.
Load More Replies...Quit My Horrible Job And Posted A Glass Door Review A Month Ago. Received A Cease And Desist Letter For Defamation. Edited And Re-Posted An Even More Scathing But Legally Passable Version. F**k Our Capitalist Overlords And Their Intimidation Strategies
This Is Just Sad...
That’s A Lot Of Words To Say - We Want People To Work Extra Hard, But We Don’t Want To Compensate Them Accordingly
Name and shame. You might enjoy the antiwork subreddit.
Load More Replies...Meanwhile , they're a Transactional Employer®. 200% loyalty to the company, 0% loyalty to the workers.
Wow. Another plantation owner mentality describing openly illegal workplace.
As an employer, the non-transactional employees are the ones that need the most hand holding and require the most energy. No thank you. Please just do your job, collect your check, and keep it simple. I don’t want to invest time and energy nurturing employees. I’m not your mom, I’m just the bearer of your paycheck. Let’s leave it there. I’ll even give you time off, just leave me out of it.
Sigh
S**t, it very often takes an hour or more, just to get through one application, because you not only have to compose and upload a cover letter, but also when you upload your resume, you still have to manually type (or copy and paste) all the same information on your already uploaded resume and references list on the attached application form as well—-and correct any that might have been automatically loaded because it’s all on the wrong lines. It didn’t take that long to fill out a paper resume by hand, ffs. HR Departments: Please get your s**t together and choose ONE software for this, then let us know how to format our resumes so they fit!!!
"Just pull yerself up by your bootstraps. Worked when I was yer age"
An Embarrassing Reminder To Not Reveal Your Salary Expectations
Looks like HR just copied and pasted from the email they got from the manager.. ooof
Thanks Facebook
All This [stuff] For A Grocery Clerk Job
On that last question I'd say "Here, let me help." And drop kick the products to the loading dock.
and unemployed you shall remain...thats why these questions are asked.
Load More Replies...I’ve seen where fast food and retail are now listing their franchise’s LLC name instead of the actual store or restaurant name. You think you’re applying for an office job when it’s really just flipping burgers or walking around a store asking people if they need any help.
Ugh so many flashbacks to the year after I finished university. That was a weird and tiring time.
I failed one of those for Sunglasses Hut when I was a teenager. Stupid honesty.
that looks like questions i took once when i was going through therapy for depression
Short Staffed
Take the wages of who was supposed to be there and GIVE it to the ones that showed up!
Who worked there before the pandemic? I'm sure the pay was about the same. There are people that just don't want to work due to government subsidies. However, I do believe wages should be higher across the board and no one should rely on tips alone for their work.
My Interview Is Tomorrow
No one speaks or writes English any more. It's "interview with XXX and ME!"
First thing I noticed. At least they didn't reference her/him and me, the only worse phrase
Load More Replies...I once got an email similar to that, against my personality but since I liked the place/potential boss so much, I called the company to ask for feedback - the lady was completely mortified as I had indeed got the job and she sent the email by mistake! It was indeed a great job
Their interview was the following day... they hadn't been interviewed yet >.<
Load More Replies...The Kindest Rejection I’ve Received Still Hurts Like A Ton Of Bricks
This one is actually not bad. But yeah happens all the time, you're the best and some internal candidate gets the job. This happened to me several times.
Why not offer the internal candidate's old position? (spoiler: the internal is still going to be doing their old job in addition the new one, without any type of raise)
This is how it used to be, back when hiring managers actually looked at every resume.
They ALWAYS hire the internal candidate, for one, they kept the applicant waiting "so long," for two, and they want the applicant to follow the company on Indeed to reapply for other positions makes three.
Load More Replies...Disclosed My Adhd In An Interview, This Is The Feedback I Got Back...
Vibing. Being not a troublemaker. Fitting into the team personality wise.
Load More Replies...Work is work. It’s not “culture”. You go in, do your job, and go home. Every week/two weeks/month they give you pay equal to your negotiated salary, or for the number of hours you worked during that pay period. Do your job well, and you get to keep it. “Sociology understands culture as the languages, customs, beliefs, rules, arts, knowledge, and collective identities and memories developed by members of all social groups that make their social environments meaningful”. For the majority of jobs (those that don’t require a “calling” like being a doctor or preacher), work isn’t culture, as it’s actually not a good idea to invest any more in it than is reasonable, and it’s only “meaningful” insofar as it pays your bills. Hopefully, the people you work with and/or around aren’t assholes—-that’s the extent of “culture” at work.
Legal discrimination? Does ADD/ADHD fall under the ADA? Or (if I pull my head out of my @$$) is this for a position anywhere outside the US...?
Boss Posted This Job Description On Facebook And Then Commented This A Week Later. Well I Wonder Why No One Applied...
I decided a long time ago not to ever work for someone with a "Type A" personality. Because I finally figured out what the "A" stands for...
I think it's "doing AN apprenticship." And I'm willing to bet him saying that means UNPAID.
You know, this kind of attitude used to be normal/common. It's so refreshing to have people say openly what was quietly discussed among close friends only for so many years...(that yes obviously I want to be paid well, that's why I work, and sure I'd like to also enjoy my job but that comes after I'm not stressing about bills)
I Try To Give Back To Recruiters Now And Then
Love it! Like the guy that puts his two year old on the phone when telemarketers call. Can you imagine them spending 20 minutes trying to talk her into giving the phone back to dad.
He used a heroine. Please say it was Wonder Woman, she's the coolest.
Is It Bad That My First Thought Was...now You Know How It Normally Feels For Job Seekers...? Lol
well, well, well.... how the tables have turned. Kinda sucks getting rejections all the time, doesn't it
Sounds Like An Easy Job!
12 Month Ban From Applying Because Of A 5-Minute Personality Test
Why would you even consider to apply again with a business which takes online assessments serious? They probably also believe in "work for free to advance your career" and "24/7/365 availability".
Because so damn many of them do it now, is the answer.
Load More Replies...My son applied to a place that has everyone take some kind of aptitude test. He scored so high he received a letter of commendation from the Governor. He didn't get the job. Why? Turns out the worse you score the more desirable you are to the company. Why? Because pay is based on those test results. They aren't interested in quality workers, just saving money on payroll.
Actually, I think this is ok (assuming the test is not completely meaningless) - if you com to the conlusion that someone does not fit the company, why have them apply again and again giving them the opportunity to just try different answers randomly? If you assume your test says anything valid about the candidate, a year is a reasonable period in which something could change AND at least they clearly tell you the rules.
I'm familiar with the test. It's not a personality test; it's a skills test - spreadsheets, maths, communications, etc. Their research shows that people who fail the test tend to not make it in the business (I think they last about 1-2 years on average) because they generally cannot manage the reporting requirements (the test was suspended in one market for several intakes to reach this conclusion). I'm not saying theirs is the "correct" approach - as I believe in hiring from a socio-economically diverse range of people - but it's also not a "meaningless" test.
Load More Replies...... I'm Sorry, What?
There’s a point where the money isn’t worth the toll the job is taking on you, physically, mentally, and emotionally. They can never pay you enough for a job that makes you throw up every Monday-Friday morning at the thought of having to go in. Besides, you already called out one day last week, and you don’t have any more paid sick time because you’ve already “earned and burned” it. (I lived this while working at a past job, and can’t even describe how delicious it was to quit that s**t and go to work at a decent company.)
Load More Replies...“Multi-tasking” is a myth. Unless something’s automated, and all you have to do is push a button to get the job done, you really can’t fully do more than one task at a time, and give each one 100% of your attention. You’re going to do all of them incompletely. If you’re juggling 5 tasks at once, you’re dividing your 100% attention between them—-in varying percentages totaling 100—because you can NOT give more than 100%! You can’t give 100% to 5 tasks, as that would be 500%, which is impossible. That’s not even taking the usual constant interruptions to your concentration that happen in an office into consideration. Any company that expects you to multitask AND do each task perfectly is only setting you up for failure, as they’re usually also the “one mistake and you’re fired” kind of company to work for.
Nah it's an unpaid position. They use the foot in the door: compliment, waste your time reading it, then when you're already invested they say "but you'll have to pay us to hire you"
Load More Replies...I saw this one recently, but it was for another position. Gotta be the same company, right?
Remote Job
Meaning you’re going to float from office to office, and never know from day to day where you’re going to be. You’ll never get to settle in and have your own desk, and you’ll always have to put up with sitting at the shittiest desk in the office, with the broken chair, the computer that I swear is still on dial up, the keyboard with all the letters worn off, the monitor that’s about to go up, and the phone that hasn’t been cleaned since WWII. Oh, and a boss who constantly asks you just how rewarding you think the job is—-and the only correct answer is to give an Academy Award-winning performance, gushing about how you love it and would still do it even if they weren’t paying you for it. F**k that s**t.
Fool Stack Development
I believe there is nothing like a "full stack developer". For me, coming from IT, this word is kinda new. And whenever I am asking my friends ( a lot of developers too) they always giggle about this term. Companies assume that with a full stack dude ALL the IT stuff is covered - which is not ^^ - so, they just need this one guy for everything. So applying as a full stack actually is kinda fooling the hirer -> Fool Stack ;)
"Full-stack" is fantasized by employers ("this guy can do anything, he will do everything" which is not possible because... time, for example? they can't do the job of a front-end dev + a back-end dev in half the time). But tbf if you master front-end matters (+ front-end framework) and same for the back-end, you can legit be considered as a full-stack developer.
Load More Replies...I feel like so many of those companies with super complex interviews have been inspired by what Google or Apple do. HOWEVER, hear me out here, you’re not Google or Apple. They have an unparalleled reputation, pay better than anyone else in the industry, and their perks are legendary, especially for Google. People actually want to work for them specifically. So unless you’re willing to offer the same, you don’t get to have the same hiring process.
It works both ways. Some companies do have unrealistic hiring practices, that's true, but some applicants also have unrealistic expectations, or simply don't understand how the game works. Let's say I'm the guy doing the hiring. On one hand, I have a forty-year-old with relevant experience who'll show up on time, do what's asked of him without complaining and won't take a day off every time he farts sideways. On the other, I have an entitled, emotionally fragile twenty-something product of helicopter parenting who acts like he's doing me a favor just by showing up for the interview, thinks he gets to dictate the terms and conditions of his employment, and will as likely as not take a "mental health day" every time he gets a paper cut. Guess who's going to get the job? What some of these kids need to remember when they sit down for the interview with their list of demands and expectations is that there are a dozen other people in line for that job who'll be happy just to have a paycheck.
Load More Replies...This post depressed me, but it's honest. It depresses me the way applying for jobs has depressed me, and yeah, traumatized me, too. I'm lucky enough to be working at the moment, but it's true that the market is incredibly hostile these days. Those of you who haven't been through these experiences, believe what you read. It is absolutely as bad as they say.
Anyone working anywhere deserves to earn enough money to live comfortably. Have what they need to exist eat and live. Some people are okay with having their basic needs met. Getting up working and just existing and doing it all over again. There is nothing wrong with wanting to spend time with your family work a little and just be. To work your entire existence and still struggle for basic needs is insane. People matter and the way things are, are not how it has to be. We can all live and thrive, while other's still maintain their wealth. To deny people a decent wage is so wrong. But greedy people will always say us hard-working folk wanting more than what we need. When in reality it's them hoarding not only money but the resources we all need to thrive as well. It's beyond heartbreaking and messed up.
So many companies only take online applications and have an algorithm that weeds out anyone who isn't an exact perfect fit. So they receive hundreds and hundreds of applications from people that could do the job just fine and reject all of them, then complain that there is nobody out there to fill the role.
That's why you copy the job description into your resume, word for word. Then you make the font tiny and white, so it isn't visible. The algorithm will pick it up.
Load More Replies...I find it funny when large companies go on about loosing people and struggling to pay wages and keep employees. Lets do a fun experiment. Let's take Pepsi Co since everyone probably knows what that is. In 2020 their net income was $7.12 billion -- that is after covering all of their operating expense ($70.3 billion revenue before expenses). Can they share that with the employees? Sure. But not all of it since they also have share holders. They are greedy so probably wont split it 50/50 so lets say they only depart with 10% of their profits, for just 1 year. They have 69,100 employees. They could give every employee a $10,300 bonus for retention. That is a life changing bonus for many of their employees and all they would have to do is give up only 10% of their income AFTER paying every expense. Imagine if they split 50% of their net profits with staff. Its a shame we live in a world where this is out of the question for almost every single company.
I also did Apple but the comment got pretty long... Gross income: $365.8 billion. Net income: $94.68 billion. 10% of net income spread across 147,000 employees would give every employee a $64,000 bonus while allowing Apple to pay all expenses and still keep 90% of what is left over.
Load More Replies...saw one recently that was for a VOLUNTEER position that required experience, portfolio, and 3 references.
It's not always about the money. Many places are just toxic as hell!!!
I agree, I make pretty descent money at my current job with great benefits. Even with working remote the dept is toxic. Mgmt refuses to allow employees to move to other depts, every week they add additional things to our work load. We have to be sure not to let the customers know when we are having a bad day. However we always know when someone in management is having a bad day because they take it out on you which is at least every day from one of them. They tell you they want you to succeed with the company but their actions to prevent that speaks louder than words.
Load More Replies...I quit my job and raised my kids for 7 years. My youngest started preschool this year, so I started applying for jobs. I was told a lot of places were beyond desperate for help. So many of these 'desperate' places never even called me for an interview. Fortunately I did end up finding a job. It pays a whopping $13 an hour and the only reason it pays that well is because that's the going rate for new hires at McDonald's. My boss is genuinely awesome though and the work is engaging, so I can't complain too much.
I applied for a caregiver agency. 1 week for the HR manager to tell the other managers that she was hiring me. Another week to call me. Now a third week for her to send a background check release form. Wtf. How slow are you?
I feel like so many of those companies with super complex interviews have been inspired by what Google or Apple do. HOWEVER, hear me out here, you’re not Google or Apple. They have an unparalleled reputation, pay better than anyone else in the industry, and their perks are legendary, especially for Google. People actually want to work for them specifically. So unless you’re willing to offer the same, you don’t get to have the same hiring process.
It works both ways. Some companies do have unrealistic hiring practices, that's true, but some applicants also have unrealistic expectations, or simply don't understand how the game works. Let's say I'm the guy doing the hiring. On one hand, I have a forty-year-old with relevant experience who'll show up on time, do what's asked of him without complaining and won't take a day off every time he farts sideways. On the other, I have an entitled, emotionally fragile twenty-something product of helicopter parenting who acts like he's doing me a favor just by showing up for the interview, thinks he gets to dictate the terms and conditions of his employment, and will as likely as not take a "mental health day" every time he gets a paper cut. Guess who's going to get the job? What some of these kids need to remember when they sit down for the interview with their list of demands and expectations is that there are a dozen other people in line for that job who'll be happy just to have a paycheck.
Load More Replies...This post depressed me, but it's honest. It depresses me the way applying for jobs has depressed me, and yeah, traumatized me, too. I'm lucky enough to be working at the moment, but it's true that the market is incredibly hostile these days. Those of you who haven't been through these experiences, believe what you read. It is absolutely as bad as they say.
Anyone working anywhere deserves to earn enough money to live comfortably. Have what they need to exist eat and live. Some people are okay with having their basic needs met. Getting up working and just existing and doing it all over again. There is nothing wrong with wanting to spend time with your family work a little and just be. To work your entire existence and still struggle for basic needs is insane. People matter and the way things are, are not how it has to be. We can all live and thrive, while other's still maintain their wealth. To deny people a decent wage is so wrong. But greedy people will always say us hard-working folk wanting more than what we need. When in reality it's them hoarding not only money but the resources we all need to thrive as well. It's beyond heartbreaking and messed up.
So many companies only take online applications and have an algorithm that weeds out anyone who isn't an exact perfect fit. So they receive hundreds and hundreds of applications from people that could do the job just fine and reject all of them, then complain that there is nobody out there to fill the role.
That's why you copy the job description into your resume, word for word. Then you make the font tiny and white, so it isn't visible. The algorithm will pick it up.
Load More Replies...I find it funny when large companies go on about loosing people and struggling to pay wages and keep employees. Lets do a fun experiment. Let's take Pepsi Co since everyone probably knows what that is. In 2020 their net income was $7.12 billion -- that is after covering all of their operating expense ($70.3 billion revenue before expenses). Can they share that with the employees? Sure. But not all of it since they also have share holders. They are greedy so probably wont split it 50/50 so lets say they only depart with 10% of their profits, for just 1 year. They have 69,100 employees. They could give every employee a $10,300 bonus for retention. That is a life changing bonus for many of their employees and all they would have to do is give up only 10% of their income AFTER paying every expense. Imagine if they split 50% of their net profits with staff. Its a shame we live in a world where this is out of the question for almost every single company.
I also did Apple but the comment got pretty long... Gross income: $365.8 billion. Net income: $94.68 billion. 10% of net income spread across 147,000 employees would give every employee a $64,000 bonus while allowing Apple to pay all expenses and still keep 90% of what is left over.
Load More Replies...saw one recently that was for a VOLUNTEER position that required experience, portfolio, and 3 references.
It's not always about the money. Many places are just toxic as hell!!!
I agree, I make pretty descent money at my current job with great benefits. Even with working remote the dept is toxic. Mgmt refuses to allow employees to move to other depts, every week they add additional things to our work load. We have to be sure not to let the customers know when we are having a bad day. However we always know when someone in management is having a bad day because they take it out on you which is at least every day from one of them. They tell you they want you to succeed with the company but their actions to prevent that speaks louder than words.
Load More Replies...I quit my job and raised my kids for 7 years. My youngest started preschool this year, so I started applying for jobs. I was told a lot of places were beyond desperate for help. So many of these 'desperate' places never even called me for an interview. Fortunately I did end up finding a job. It pays a whopping $13 an hour and the only reason it pays that well is because that's the going rate for new hires at McDonald's. My boss is genuinely awesome though and the work is engaging, so I can't complain too much.
I applied for a caregiver agency. 1 week for the HR manager to tell the other managers that she was hiring me. Another week to call me. Now a third week for her to send a background check release form. Wtf. How slow are you?
