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Kids are not for everyone. Yet, many default to expecting people to start procreating once they settle down, even insisting that those who claim not to want children will surely someday change their minds. Especially women.

But there are plenty of valid reasons for living child-free. And if a person doesn't want to commit to spending around 18 years of their life caring for another human being whose well-being depends entirely on them, maybe we shouldn't force them into it? Regardless of whether or not they belong to the heteronormative part of society.

Drawing attention to the problem, Redditor AGstudios22 asked other platform users who don't plan on having kids what made them come to that conclusion, and we thought that reading through the answers can provide you with quite a few interesting insights, regardless of your own position.

#1

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers From my own experience, I don’t like the thought of bringing a kid into the world we live in. I’d much sooner adopt a kid who’s in a shifty place or in a struggling area. There are millions of kids starving out there, there are millions of kids being abused out there. Rather save one of them than bring another kid into this retched place

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I really, really don't want to be a parent and I feel like that should at the very least be a prerequisite to having them. My grandmother didn't seem to enjoy parenthood, my mom certainly didn't. They did it because they were "supposed to". I'm breaking the cycle.

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Well-Dressed Wolf
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ve occasionally questioned my normal-ness: shouldn’t every healthy adult animal want to perpetuate the species, at least a little? Shouldn’t I have instincts to reproduce? But I don’t XD I want cats and dogs!

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers Selfishness. I like the freedom of being able to wake up or go wherever i want without worrying “whos gonna watch my kids” or “my kids are awake so i have to be awake” so i guess I value my personal freedom more then anything a child could provide me

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Tilly Jean
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It concerns me that it is often regarded as ‘selfishness’. Your entire life is changed, completely. There is nothing wrong with looking after ‘you’. There are enough children in the world, focus on being a better human being for yourself, so the your own freedoms.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers The fact that nothing really makes me WANT to have them. I feel like you should have an overwhelming desire to become a parent - I don’t, so why would I have a kid?

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Tilly Jean
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good point. You need to be wanting kids 100%. You can’t take it back. Plus it’s important that a child is brought into the world and know they are absolutely wanted.

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You know when you are out in public, and you see parents of children and immediately think, "Those people should have never had kids."?

That's me. I'm those people. Not only do I agree with you, I also took your advice.

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Iifa A.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! I'm also one of those people, and I'm taking your advice further and will cross the road over to escape children.

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Can I answer even though I have them?

The fact that I have them makes me not want them.

I love my kids and will lay down my life for them, but raising kids SUCKS!

They financially, physically and mentally suck the life out of you.

Sure they have their moments but there is nothing rewarding about raising kids, the only thing you get in return is judgement and premature aging.

I don't regret having them, but man I'll be celebrating hard when they're adults and leave home.

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V33333P
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for being honest with your experience. Seriously

Isaac Harvey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Admitting the harsh truth is morally better than telling a more palatable lie.

JustinTime
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They don’t care if you’re sick, tired, exhausted, hungover, or just need breaks. You’re always on. Even when they grow up you’re never done worrying about them because we’re very world weary by that point and they’re not seasoned.

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B 🇺🇦🇨🇦
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man I’m so glad I don’t have kids. This entire thread is just making me feel so validated 😅 y’all enjoy your paw patrol and 18+ year lack of free time during the last quality years of your youth. I’m currently kickin back at the beach in my truck smoking a doobie and painting, I think I’m going to put dinner off so I can go climb this hill and sketch a bit up there and watch the sunset :) No one to argue with me, just me and my life to live. No disrespect honestly I’m glad a lot of people find that their “true purpose is to be a mother” this way, but I clearly am not meant to be a mother and that makes me so so SO happy :)

Becca Hauck
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You think Paw patrol is bad? Try teletubbies!!!! I've finally broken down and told my adult daughters that no, I actually don't like Disney. I've seen Disney movies thousands of times and I don't feel a need to watch another even once.

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Joshua Moore
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with this very much. I've said numerous times, I love my two little monsters to pieces. I have two teenagers, a girl and a boy who is autistic and nonverbal. Getting him to sleep past 545/6a on the weekends never happens. They're the best thing that has ever happened to me. I wouldn't give them up for anything in this Earth. It sure would be nice to get some sleep though. I'm just saying. Lol

Becca Hauck
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel the same. My autistic ADHD son is amazing and the world is a better place with him in it. Everyone says that about all of my kids. But it's never ending HARD work. Teen years with my girls had me picking out places to bury their asses..jk... Sort of. Lol The amount of everything that goes into raising them...Oof. Love them fiercely though. Didn't want kids. Glad I had them. 100% sure that not everyone will be glad they had them. I've known several men that thought they wanted kids until they realized what life with kids looks like... After they were born.

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N Goodman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even when they leave home it's not over. My adult child still needs help. Whether financially or just advice. Parenting is until you die.

Marianne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's so interesting. My parents are literally the opposite. We are 4 siblings and my eldest brother is 18 years older than me, so I guess my parents didn't want to stop raising kids. One of my brothers lived at home until he was 33 and when he finally moved out, it was a shock for my parents and they were devastated to see him leave.

Jo L.
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Were they good parents, would you say? Because if so, then I say more power to them. My best friend had her second child and told me recently, "baby fever is real" and she's picked out names for her hypothetical two future children. I was holding her baby for a while and was like, yep, I think I see more why you might want another one of these. Her toddler is really good too - the cutest thing was watching them babble away in a combination of sign language and English and it is still just as nonsensical as toddlers usually are when they speak. Every sentence requires 20 questions of clarification. 😂

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Faith Elemenohpee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sure there are MANY more parents who feel exactly this way but are afraid to say it for fear of being labeled bad people.

Biliegh Berrie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Soon to be mom's ask me what it's like and I always say, you want the truth? Or do you want me to lie to you?

Mariatu Johnson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tbh, and I don't mean to rain on your parade, but it doesn't get better when they are adults honey. I have 3 adults kids and the younger 2 I could wring their necks sometimes. My middle kid felt like I should fight his battles for him and he has 2 kids himself! Wtf you mean?! Then I was all types of useless b*tches and dumb, amongst other things. My youngest called the police on me and had me arrested because I took her phone in which I paid the bill. If I had've known parenthood was going to be like this, I would have never had any, or I would have stopped at my first child, because he gave me no problems at all.

Anna Tribe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Later that the police decided my apartment was messy and smelled bad. 1 I'd been to the bathroom for a nr2 because I'm lactose intolerant and had eaten something that had lactose in, giving me major stomach issues and it smelled bad. 2, I was halfway through the dishes and cleaning the kitchen when md arrived. 3, I'd moved a bookcase from the bedroom into the living room to make place for the travel cot for my youngest grandchild when she was allowed to start sleeping over. While moving it some books fell off the shelves and I was distracted by the 3 piles of toys I was also sorting out into age appropriate for each grandchild. So my apartment was messy and smelly. Md reported my daughter to child services to say that my grandkids were at my place all the time and the police said it was messy. Ed got called by a social worker who said that if she continues to send her kids to my unsanitary apartment she will lose custody of all 3 kids. So no more babysitting because of md.

Becca Hauck
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a narcissistic adult child too. That's all I'm going to say. I feel ya. Sorry you had to go through that.

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Anna Tribe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My middle daughter aged 26 is a narcissistic person. She destroys everyone she comes across by abusing us. Even her two sisters have gone no contact with her same as I've done. She continues to make life hell for us. Her oldest sister has 3 children, 7, 5 and 1 and I see them frequently. Babysit the older two maybe 1 or 2 nights a month but haven't started taking the baby as well. A couple of weeks ago my md turned up at my door, banging on it, continually ringing the bell and trying to get in. I was doing dishes and went to the door and said I had nothing to say to her and I wanted her to leave. She refused. I called my eldest daughter to ask what I should do because I get so much anxiety around md. Call the police she said so I did. Md was gone when 2 cars came. 1 car went to her apartment, one came inside to take my statement and the other one took a statement over the phone from my ed. Found out

Deborah Shea
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I had it to do over I would not have kids. They do literally suck the life out of you.

Corey Hall
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I totally agree with this. As a single father, of now young adults I can say the hardest lesson I learned is that no matter how much you are there for your kids and how much you guide them, they are going to be the kind of people they choose to be. And if they make good life choices that's great. But if they don't, you are still expected to clean up their messes. If you don't, you get the guilty trip that no matter what you should do everything for them. People think that being a good parent is all on you. But in reality, it has a lot to do with the people your children choose to be. It really is a two way street. I have tried to teach my kids that pretty much everything that happens to you in life is mostly based on personal decisions you make. And I guess having kids is part of that, but know that once you have kids, the decisions they make also have an affect on you. I love my kids, but if I had it all over to do again I definitely would not.

Sharon
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't hold your breath about them leaving home the way things are now. No one hires full time, if anyone is hiring. Rent, food, gas, the cost of living is so high they can't afford to move out even working 2 jobs. Don't hold your breath, blue is not a nice color unless it's for your team.

Lisa Hunt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I appreciate your honesty. However, my rewards of being a parent come when my kids accomplish something they've been working toward or when one of them call me and say, "Hey momma I need to talk". There were times when my daughter was younger that I truly believe I hated her. I realize now that was my inadequacy in dealing with her ADHD. I fully support anyone who chooses not to have children and wish like hell more people would not have them.

Stijn Kraft
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And, fair point; IF they become adults and IF they leave home. Because there's always a chance your kid needs life long care.

Shayla Katherina
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm convinced that you need to be rich to afford kids. I have trouble enough feeding myself and my SO, let alone 1 or 2 or 3 others.

Anita Dunn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A continuation of my previous comment. I love my children with all my heart but if i had never had them I wouldn't be able to miss what I didn't have. I don't want children yet I have them. And yes, I'm obligated to them and I love them because they're mine but I know my life could have been much better for me personally had I not had children. By instinct, I'm a globetrotter. I love traveling. And I do travel but not always alone and I usually have to take at least one or more with me at a time. But I prefer to travel alone. But it is what it is. I hope that my children don't feel obligated to get married or have children. Only do what they believe is best for them. I'm sure one of them will have kids and that'll make me a grandparent. It won't be my job to raise them. It'll be their responsibility. As is they're my responsibility. My parents don't help me raise my kids.

Winna Libert
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Been raising my two grnddghtrs since they were 2m and 1yr..my son, my youngest had just turned old enough to be left alone ONE year prior, my husband and I had plans on trucking and traveling the country as soon as he turned 18..nope, not now. Now we're getting to do it all over again. We are NOT looking forward to two teenagers AGAIN.

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Anita Dunn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I couldn't agree more. I've four children. My kids span over two generations. One is 26, another's 18, and two younger one's 10 and 6. I never intentionally got pregnant nor had I envisioned myself with four children. Children are an enormous expense, physically, mentally, and emotionally draining because you must find it within yourself to give the best of yourself to your children. Instill in them a good moral compass, provide them with the best education that you're capable of. Staying on top of what is happening with them in their school studies, their grades, and in summer you have to work on summer education so they don't forget what they learned in the previous school year and as well get an introduction to the next school year. If 5hey have any subjects that they struggle in, you must either tutor them yourself or hire a tutor to come aid their progress.They also need extracurricular activities to do outside with other people their age. There's virtually no time for yourself.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mine is the fact that I ALWAYS think/worry about them. My brain NEVER gets a moment off!! There are fears at every stage of it:. Will I get pregnant/Am I pregnant, miscarriage, stillborn, SIDS, choking hazards, other kids germs, crossing the street, kidnapping, school shooting, abuse by a trusted adult, abuse by a stranger, bullying at school-bully or being bullied, this doesn't even get u past elementary school. The worries only multiply as time goes on and in adulthood I'll be worried about their relationships and finances SMH😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫

Bubs623
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They leave for college and then they come home. These days, with inflation and sky rocketing housing costs, they bring their spouses home too. And then they get pregnant and you have a grandbaby in the house you thought you'd have to yourself - along with no money because you're still helping them. And yes, the love and wonder of children but still.

Reviewer UK01
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the jackpot you can have a disabled child. You don't look forward to them being larger, heavier, still at home and now you gotta administer their lives as adults with them instead of just having a kid, all while still relentlessly parenting forever. It's late in the summer "holidays" so sue me for the brutal honesty.

Christy A Kyriss
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes: you are wecome to answer this one. We who chose against parenthood thank you for your honesty and authenticity. It's a cautionary tale for anybody who is on the fence, whose heart is really saying "nooooo!" What support do you get from others? What does Mother's /Father's Day do for you every year? Many (likely most) of us appreciate your perspective, and it can give a needed push to say no to parenthood without guilt, to help resist pressure from others around them stuck in old counter a productive thinking. Do you have those bottles of champagne ready?

Kathleen Schmidt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please never allow anyone to pressure you to have kids. Just look them in the face & ask them if they will be the one financially supporting that child, or the one to be up all night when they are sick, the one helping with homework & extra curricular activities throughout their school years. Will they be there with the bandaids, hugs & support when they fall or have their heart broken. Unless they say yes, tell them to worry about their own lives & let you live yours. As a parent to a daughter that chooses to be child-free, I watch/listen to the garbage people spew (including the doctors that refuse to tie her tubes) and it makes me so angry that these people think they have a right to an opinion about something so personal. Stay strong & keep making the best choices for you & your life!

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Summer Angel Ruffin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude, I can’t agree with this enough 😆🤣 I have 3 boys & 6 bonus kiddos, all ages 5-17. Kids are hard & they really do suck you dry as a human being sometimes 🤷🏻‍♀️

Lynnette Bird
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. This. I love my kids. I would tear down walls for them. But I hate being a parent

R.D. Whitaker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your honesty is refreshing. Most parents will not express these facts.

John Koreyva
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Watching them grow and mold into people is a reward in itself. I agree it's stressful and financially straining. I would not change it for the world.

Joel Redd
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is nothing rewarding about raising kids?! I could go on forever about the rewards I've gotten, be it my 18-year-old daughter hugging me and telling me she's so glad that we love her, care about her, and raised her with boundaries after a classmate, whom she knew had un-involved, absent parents, committed suicide recently; or my son, who is learning disabled, successfully completing half of his college courses because we've always told him he can do anything he wants to set his mind to. Watching your kids nurturing their talents, whether it's dance or playing a musical instrument, is rewarding, plus just so much more. My kids are caring, thoughtful, kind and happy. That's more than enough for me.

Sara Mortensen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having children has been the most rewarding experience of my life. It the best hardest thing I have ever done. You have no idea the capacity you can love another human being until you have a child and it helps you become a more caring nurturing selfless person putting their needs above your own.

Toy Slaughter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can totally appreciate this as a parent who has 4! Two of which are adults and two on their way to being and I love tf outta them but holy hell does it suck. They themselves are great! But the exhaustion (mental, spiritual, physical) and it being hard to save money blows. Also worrying about them being safe drives me absolutely insane. Especially when I have no control over where they are and who they're with (the adult children) It's seriously just too much

Kleo Patterson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't have kids and will never have any, but I believe that raising children can be rewarding because they bring joy, laughter, learning opportunities and challenges that can really make us better people. I think they help to keep us young too because we learn to see the world through their eyes. I truly believe that being a parent is the most difficult responsibility in the world, but being able to help shape the life of a human being is one of the highest honours and privilege we can ever receive

Lisa Intally
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. And, for single moms, it's a one way ticket to the poor house. And, before you judge single moms, you should realize that MANY women start with no intention of doing the incredibly difficult work of raising kids with one parent. But, breakups, divorce and death of partners leave over 40% of family households headed by single moms. A lot of those kids live in poverty because employers routinely discriminate against single moms. No employer wants to play second fiddle to your kids. Employers routinely reward fathers because they assume the woman will care for the kids and dad will work twice as hard to support his family. So, my advice to women is don't have kids until this country decides to treat you and kids like you matter.

L Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You assume that they will mature enough to be responsible adults and move out.

Chantz Bentonfield
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. I agree with this whole comment. But I'll add...I raised 3 of my 4 then the 1st born couldn't handle adulting and I ended up with her 2 while getting the last of mine out the door. Now my last one is 24 and I'm raising 2 teenagers. How did my child thank me. By having 2 more that she tries to guilt trip me into taking whenever she can. Example of someone who should not have had kids. It is a commitment. And if you're not ready to give up your life to do the JOB by all means "good on you". Nothing selfish about making great decisions for yourself and any unborn children 😉. Congratulations 🎊 you just passed adulting 101.

Winna Libert
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup, my son was 13 and just began being old enough that my husband and I had some free time..then came the situation of us raising our two grnddghtrs ages 2m and 1yr. Our son is now 22 and our grnddghtrs are about to turn 9&10..dreading the years ahead.

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Robin Langley
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I totally understand. I got married too young, 19, Love of my Life. 5yrs into it he really wanted to have kids. I was not necessarily opposed. @ 24 I had my son. 28 months later I had my daughter. Draining yea, my son was colicky never slept, my daughter perfect Gerber baby. 15 yrs into marriage, he checked out. Now @ 34 I was a single Mom raising 2 preteens, literally by myself. Hardest job ever... within 3 yrs, I took in a 13 yr old Foster, simply because her mother told her she took up too much of her time & money. All graduated HS & college. I felt very successful & accomplished. The struggle was REAL & worth it to me. They are now living their own self sufficient lives & I have 5 grands. The payoff has been the Grands. I love the time spent with them. It's all how you approach life. I completely understand those that choose not to have children. It is a lifetime commitment. My X didn't seem to comprehend the word commitment to marriage or children.

Sharon Patterson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And on top of all the every you mentioned. When you are old and worn out from worrying about them day and night, they are no where around unless they need something.

Phil Tune
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

3 months into my second child's life, I had a breakdown and screamed "why did we do this AGAIN?? I don't understand our decision making and I question our sanity"

Wendy Miller
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I only had 1 child but wanted 2. My daughter did the opposite of mentally sucking the life out of me. I had 2 other pg's that almost killed me & left me with a permanent health issue. Yet, I tried again. Don't regret what I went through to have a child. If you don't feel like me, esp. if you're female, I think remaining childless is best .

justa testaverde
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OMG....I felt the same. LOVE my kids but OMG I couldn't wait til they were all grown. They grew up and I got remarried and started FINALLY doing me....And now I have to raise my teen and pre teen grandkids because my daughter died. I love them, but raising kids in this digital age...I am NOT cut out for this opinionated a$z generation. So now I gotta do this "mom" thing AGAIN...I love them dearly...but I wanna run away....FOREVER..or until the youngest is out of college. Lol

Winna Libert
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same boat, raising my two grnddghtrs since they were 2m and 1yr..they're about to turn 9&10. Not looking forward to teen years AT ALL, stresses me just thinking about it.

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Mrs. Moose
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a mom of 3 and I've been doing this alone for a year now. All of my kids are under 5, btw. I totally agree with everything you said. Any mom that pretends she don't feel like this from time to time is a liar.

Rhonda Cole
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel sad reading this one. I LOVED raising my 5 children. I loved nursing them as babies, playing with them, teaching them (so much that I home schooled until they started reaching the dissecting age). I loved almost everything about parenting. Now I have grown children that are responsible adults & I enjoy more of a friendship type relationship with them. Bonus: NINE grandchildren!

Mandi T.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This. So much this. I never wanted any. Have 3 because I felt like that's what I was supposed to do. But I hate what it has done to my life. Like the OP, I'd give my life for them. I do love them. But I don't like anything about being a parent. Especially now as a widowed single parent. I had them for HIM! 🤦‍♀️ Please don't be me. It's not selfish. Not everyone is meant for kids.

Roberto Morales
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a father of 3 children that I live more than my life, raised by their 2 parents until adulthood, I agree 100%. Like my mother used to say, you’re only finished with your children when YOU die. (However, you will miss this: 1. What it feels like to love someone unconditionally; 2. Pride you feel when they accomplish something (from their first steps to graduating college); 3. Seeing them as well-adjusted, productive, loving adults. This last one allows me to die with a smile, feeling I’ve accomplished something.) And, I don’t like kids.

Frances Blades
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OMFG I agree and relate to this so HARD right now 😣. I love my kids. I really really do. But God damn do these little f*****s try my patience sometimes 🤬.

Carol Horton
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm with you on this. I have a semi-adult and a nearly adult and I'm counting down the days until they both move out. I love them but not their attitudes. When I'm trying to talk to them about something important, they get upset bc I'm interrupting whatever it is they're watching, but when it's me and I get upset they get an attitude. Like I said I love them but now I wish I hadn't had them.

TimeToIndulgeMyADHD
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My dad says having adult children is the best thing ever. He likes seeing the people we've become and likes having us as friends. Something to look forward to, maybe. :)

Raimei Ai
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah...the premature aging is starting to show on my lil sis who has a 2 y/o. She's got the body of a 20 y/o but starting to get the wrinkles of a 35 y/I...

Cheyenne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, there is one major compensation. Grandchildren are God’s reward for not killing your kids. My son was a major PITA from ages 11 to 18. Now he’s grown and married and my grandson is the joy of my life. ( But he’s in preadolescence now and my son complains he is a PITA, and all I can do is gloat.)

Erin Lazzarini
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is me. I only have one, but they were a difficult child. Never have I felt the joy so many parents say they experience. My child is selfish. "Make mom proud" has never crossed their mind. They are a young adult now and still a strain on me. I love them to death but I feel like I failed at the parenting thing.

Frances Ota
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Theres life after kids! I had four, and wanted them. That was that part of my life. When they were old enough to be in school I went out to work. My husband was a PhD student and we needed the extra income. Once they left home (at 16 be ause apparently we were the worst parents in the world 🤣🤣🤣) we went to town. Redid the house. Made office space for ourselves. I went back to school for Masters Degree and continued working. Now my kids are late 40’s, early 50’s, and theyve realised we were decent parents. They have their own kids. At 75 i got a third degree - went overseas to do it. I love my kids, adore my grandkids, but they have their lives and we have ours. Be patient. Your kids leavs and you will find you're a whole dofferent person, more mature and still lots of life to live.

Bernadine Gonzales
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm just saying, don't let your kids read that, cause that sounded like an "I love you but..." kind of a thing and that's not cool

Storm Rise
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1 year ago

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Nosihle Redeemed Dladla
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I share the same sentiments..I have one but 😥 and to top it all of the father passed on so the sole responsibility is killing me

Martha McNeal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(CONT)posted 1 correctly? part 2: One afternoon SO & I were out shopping, when we got home there was a note on our door, kids were not home, note said we needed to talk to neighbors. Step-daughter started to fake a suicide so she could get to a hospital and complain(nothing could have happened to her) & she went screaming to the neighbors, who had to call an ambulance (they were watching youngest child). We raced up to the hospital, seems the child, (who was now 16) had informed the staff that she did NOT want see me. I had ruined their lives. Now she wants to live with mother (but mother does not want her, dad had called her)! My SO told her to get packed as he would take her there. Now child has a meltdown & started to screaming, refusing to go. Went to a counselor. Lies continued. Problems now with both kids. They moved on into their own relationships, which didn't last but they started having their own kids (plural!). Now they all beg for $$$! Didn't pay their bills! Kids, ME NO!!!

Martha McNeal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I married a man with full custody of his 3 kids as their birthmother was in the process of breeding a whole new family and she only requested 1 x, in 5 years, to see these children, So, yes, I suddenly had a whole house full and they all moved into MY house. I refused to marry SO as I wanted to all of use to be happy cohabitating in MY house. Wise choice as oldest child, when he was 12 would threaten me with a knife, while he was hiding. He had to go! Told SO, that he had to give live with his mother within 2 weeks or they ALL had to go. Told SO we would go back to dating but no living together until things were normalized and this child was not coming back. So I still had 2, a 9 y/o girl and a 5 y/o boy. Things went well for awhile util oldest boy was able to contact his sister and told her that I needed to go! As they all wanted to e a family again (with me, of course) but none of this was true, especially with their mother, her new family and new husband! (CONT)

clarissa jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a grown daughter and let me tell you. If I could go back in time. She is selfish, inconsiderate and has always put everyone over me. I raised her by myself and made sure she always had what she needs. She has six kids and thinks it's my responsibility to watch them whenever she needs a break. It's too much. You don't have that many kids and think you can unload them at will. She recently received a stipend from work that is for my babysitting the kids for her while she worked. Tells me she can't pay me the money she has to leave it in the bank to let it accumulate so she has a certain amount for a house. Because it's OK for me to be the person who buys the majority of their clothes, highchairs, just about everything. It's so much to this story I would need a year I just feel so disrespected. I usually work overtime but, due to the stress of my job I cut back on that so I could use the money. I'm just fed up with her and her choices. I would go back in time and have an abortion.

MJisME
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's alot of pent of aggression, regret and frustration here. I just hope their children feel loved. I've seen parents who are vocal about this in front of their children and it breaks the kids hearts to hear it.

Jacques Hugen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's so sad story also in the comments. I feel blessed that my children are my biggest joy in life.

Sandra Jeffrey
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love my kids too. But they never truly leave. They might move back in with their kids because of broken marriages or other problems that cause them to live under your roof again. I love my time alone with my husband. We can now do what we want. We have provided free babysitting, free taxi service, and free groceries when they were short of cash. We have helped raise our grandkids when necessary. We have treated our kids and now our grandkids like our little angels, but then they grow up and forget all about you unless they need money or something. Did we make a mistake having kids. We started this whole thing so no one to blame but us. I love these people, they belong to me, But I hate being used as a convenience. Think hard before you decide to have kids. It is a sinful world out there and If I was to do it all again, I don't know if I would.

Janet Pattison
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a parent of two, I say it's highly overrated. And most people become parents because of karmic situations. One of my kids died & the other ignores me 70% of the time. I definately would NOT do it over. Way too much heartbreak!

Chriss Martorelli
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Them leaving home will not resolve you from worrying about them. They remain in your heart.

Jane W.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. Someone being real. The 90 year old woman who used to live next door said if she had it all to do over, she would never have had kids. Not worth the effort.

Carissa Boswell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Isn't that every parent? I know my parents don't enjoy my moody teenageriness, sometimes I even get tired of my own c**p, but that just comes with raising a child.

Julie Bradley
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My kids have left home.YAAAY! F*****g AWESOME! And to top it all off, I'm single. The freedom is intoxicating!

Darth Digital
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well said. My wife and I raised a boy and a girl successfully, but oh boy… boy oh boy. As the commenter said, they drain the life out of you financially, mentally, and physically. So glad that they’re finally adults now and out on their own with successful careers.

Just here for laughs
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

sounds like regret it to me bc you put the fact that I have them makes me not want them -_-

Kari Kling
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same!!! That's how I feel about mine too. I love them to death, but the struggle is more than real!

Alexandra Sanders
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yes yes we do...but we aint havin to deal with that finacial c**p yet so we just dont understand most of the time.

JRM 3
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. So much love. I hope your kids find someone who loves them. They don't seem to have much at this time. OR you can express unconditional love and instill generosity, integrity, respect for all so that they can be a responsible and productive member of society.

Kathy Mcmillan Bazzi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel sorry for you. Me seeing what wonderful parents my children have become and the wonderful children that they are now raising, is reward enough for me. Raising my kids we went thru some very hard times. There are up’s and downs in all family dynamics. It was definitely a learning experience, with lessons past on to the next generation. But over all it is very rewarding. I think that I’m a better person have had my children and the experience of being a parent.

Holly Allen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parent here as well. One biological, one adopted, both are 13. Holy c**p it's hard as hell. One is dealing with trauma and the other one had a grand mal seizure last night. I have always wanted children and if I had to go back, I'd do it again in heartbeat because I love these two like crazy, but there are two pieces of my heart that are either saying they hate me or are coming home in the back of a cop car. It is the absolute hardest job I have ever had to do and Ive been teaching second grade for ten years.

Arianna
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone always lies when talking about their kids. I doubt anyone really enjoys raising kids.

jennifer kerkow
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of parents disagree with this. I think this person just didn't consider what it would be like. Kids don't have to "do" any of those things to you.

Evelyn Haskins
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well in that case, you were stupid. I never ever in my whole like felt that my kids were in any way a burden. We now live a distance from all our kids and grandchildren and I DO miss them terribly.

Anya Alexis Wilkie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course, nothing raises a kid’s self esteem like their parent saying that having them sucks. That’s just mean. Even if you think that about your kids, don’t post it all over social media.

Linda Patterson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One child of mine has been nothing but pure joy. The other has been challenging because of their high anxiety and struggles socially. I love them more than anything in the world but damn some days it’s just hard.

Melia Janssen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. I have one I love with all my heart and she is the best there is. However, giving birth wrecked my body and I have been inundated with illness ever since. I have also witnessed other women who clearly shouldn't be mothers so when I meet one who states she doesn't ever want to be a mother, I support her. Women who thought they wanted children end up effing them up much less when you don't want them so you have to be 150% sure that you want to be a mother before you actually become one.

Ma Fra
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's nothing rewarding about raising kids? It's the best thing and the most satisfying thing I've done in my whole life. Yes, sometimes it's exhausting, but everything can be exhausting.

Helen Witten
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Amen! My father said to me at 20 when I was leaving home to go live in another country his words were "having kids is like having a 20 year sentence". Never a truer word said lol :)

H.J. carlson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ouch! I overheard that comment a lot when I was a kid particularly when the adults were thinking out loud.

Lianna Bolt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just wondering why you didn’t learn that the first times around. You said kids, plural.

Pamela Keown
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

.....some never leave.... (signed- OLD, dead tired, broke, mom)

Ashley Berryman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My son just flew the nest in April. I am FINALLY free to be ME again and enjoy zero sacrifices or responsibilities. It is time for me again!

Mickie Shea
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It was a peaceful and wonderful moment, even tough I loved em, it was time for them to seek greener pastures.

Margaret Weaver
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

SUCK the life out of you? I've seen thousands of parents yoked with spawn over my 42 years and always thought it looked more like they were STAMPING it out of you.

Buzz Covington
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

‘Nothing rewarding about raising kids”. You’re doing it wrong.

Sarah Vosburgh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OMG thank you feel like I was wrong for feeling this way right on about the physical n especially mentally even if I had a break still wouldn't know what to do far as fun don't how to anymore just sleep eat when possible all in for kids I have a toddler and a couple months old no break 247 this makes me say no more kids really rough don't get me wrong love my 3 kids I'll trade places with them just no more

Abdul Samad
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ohh god....there are bad times and good times bruh.....many children grew up and took their parents burdens on themselves financially n stuff...all thst hardwork paid off

Bunny Lady
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with this one. My youngest of four has just left home. The last to go. Do I have empty nest syndrome? Absolutely not! I've had kids at home for 35 years. Now it me time and I'm bloody enjoying it!!!!

Riley Quinn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I appreciate OP's honesty, her kids know her truth. There's no way these kids aren't aware of these feelings.

Patricia Williams
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sentiments exactly! My only child is 25 years old now. I bought a wine rack, a passport & got on eHarmony! Newly married & happy!

Jane W.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The 90 year old woman I used to live next to said if she had it all to do over, she would not have kids----NOT worth the trouble.

Dudley Ristow
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL ... dream on that after them leaving home your responsibility or worrying about them ceases. Remember the marriage vow, until death do us part? It didn't apply to the marriage it applied to the kids you bring into this world

Dayna Ferguson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have raised 3 of my own, got remarried and ended up with one more to "help" raise (as a step parent I had very little input which is VERY FRUSTRATING). He is 23 and I JUST retired from teaching 22+ years. Believe me, you NEVER totally finish parenting. Once he moves out, we will have a lot more freedom but kids always are there unless you totally cut them out of your life.

D. Dos Santos
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agree a hundred percent. I have one who is 14,she is wonderful, but God bless the ONE. It is so rewarding but draining at the same time ,my husband and I are grateful and very very grateful we had one and not a flock.

Marian Moore
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I totally agree. I love my kids but if I had to do it again it wouldn't happen. Back in the day it was expected and not a happy situation. My daughter wisely told me She was not ever having kids, I said don't. Stick to what you want not what society expects out of you. They won't be around to raise the kids you might have. My son had a surprise baby who is now almost 22. He never planned on kids either. There was a lot of chaos when she was born, and it hasn't gotten any better. Now that abortion has been taken off the table it's going to go back to the back-alley days. Very sad, indeed.

Josie Nickelberry
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

^^^ this right here says it ALL!!! Same...I feel the same. I would kill or lay down my life for my children. But I wasn't trying to have kids, they're all birth control babies. Blessings yes, hardships, yes. This new era of their adult lives, FABULOUS!!

Dara Lynn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had just made up my mind not to have kids when I got pregnant. Was not happy about it! Don't get me wrong. Love my kids and would die to protect them! I was also beyond ecstatic when they were old enough to move out. I would never have kids if I could do it over.

Kimberly Quinn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry for your children. I'm sure they love having a b***h for a mother

Melissa Slater
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol I love this I could not agree more and I only have one. One and done.

Athaleyah Israel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of my teachers called them parasites. Which technically is true. They live off of a host body. Then when they're expelled from the body they continue to rely on and live off of the host for another 18+ years... parasites...

Dunkel Esclave
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny or telling what pops up when you Google this contradictory response.

Just a Winter Fanboy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A wake-up call: No, you don't love them or willing to "lay down your life" for them. No parents who self-proclaim to "love their kids" would complain for their kids' "judgement", let alone "premature aging". It wouldn't matter. Their love for parenting and their kids would outweigh them. "They financially, physically and mentally suck the life out of you" That's what you should've expected when you had your baby in the first place. It's your own consequence to bear when you decided to be a parent, and no one else's. I sincerely do hope your kids will leave you as soon as possible after adulthood because after this alarming post... Everyone knows you no longer deserve them.

Daisy S
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your brutal honesty is hilarious 😆 thank you for sharing.

Gabe Royer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I say these things often. I would NEVER have kids again and would have never had them if I knew what I do now, but I wouldn't trade them for anything. 15 and 17 and they're on to a good start.

Sherry Lapping
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't break their plates! Your children keep showing up even after they are adults. As a parent, you're supposed to drop everything to entertain them! I love my boys, one is over 50 and the other close to it. But when will they leave me alone? An occasional phone call or text will suffice, thank you very much!

Tina AKA mom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow your honestly and opinion to stand out and say what you said is exactly how I feel! I love my kids, I have 4 of them, 24,21,20 and 14 all live with me still but my oldest lol she was smart and got out! She had to go throu the same s**t I did and help mom take care of her brothers.. she understands the struggles and Im also a single parent! She went thru it all with me including child birth! I tell them all the time that I love them but don't have to like them.. they are all succubuses, and I also read once that alot of relationships end after children come into the picture! That should say something right there! 🤷 My daughter has no desire to have children, for one there to expensive and two, you lose everything that was once you to take care of another human being which is a 100% commitment.. she also feels the same way #4 does! She doesn't want to hav to share or give up anything for anyone if she doesn't want too.. which is her choice! Parenthood most days do suck!

Jennifer Leady
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love my kids more then anything, I would give my life for them. I'm so glad they are all out of my house. They fight over who is my favorite and I tell them my grandson is cause he gets to go home to mom.

Darnell Brown
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have kids and had them at a young age me and my wife but where I came from and her our backgrounds individually our kids saved our lives because without them I'll be dead or in jail and there's no telling about her but the love they give is unconditional and before them I was a drug dealer going day by day now I have a legit job making about 50 k a year if that's not a turnaround for me I don't know what is it is hard annoying but in them times I think about my times before I had them and I'm blessed

Sunny Caldieri
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanted children. My husband didn't. We had 3. I loved, loved, loved being a Mom! Still do! However, my marriage did not last. I did not love that. Never planned to be a single ONLY parent. My husband walked away from ALL if us. Alas...I do not have any desire to be a single grandmother. My children are now 38, 36, and 30, and have no desire to be parents. Just as well.

Rez Farary
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can I say that’s SUS, or I will get hated for whole entire my life just because I said my opinion. lol.

Rachel Boyle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am being 1,000,000% honest and genuine when I say that I have truly never respected or appreciated something another human has said in regards to children more than this. This is so purely authentic and I’m super grateful to the person who wrote it.

Troy Townsend
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hang in there!! I was sole support parent of 3 kids. I was drained, tired, stressed and lived below poverty line for 15 solid years. Now that they are all adults, my life is blessed 3 times over and yours will be too.

yvonne myers
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with everything you said, and I should know because I have kids myself

Lisa Stauffer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup! Living that dream. However at 59 years old I now realize I was growing up with them. The were all of what you posted above and more. They grouped me and gave me reason the wake every day even if I hated to. The rewards are here now seeing them as happy well adjusted humans in the world. We have really cool adult fun together now too. They are my best friend! My life is now my own but I couldn't image it without them.

Shanaya Johnson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know one reward. Most kids become adults and then those adults help take care lf you. If you were at all a decent parent. I'm 30 and since I've moved out at 18 I've helped my mom financially. We didn't have the best relationship when I was a teen but now we are like best friends I talk to her almost every day

Marie Askew
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man, I totally feel this! I have two; one is special needs and the other is in “god-awful, horrible, terrible twos” and every day I pray I don’t wake up. They are bothersome, needy, and so draining. I regret staying every single minute. But I have no choice, I’m stuck here. :(

Leanne Peters
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Im sitting here feeling so bad for actually feeling sorry for myself (because im on day 4 of covid alone yet taking care of my two year old every whim. You are the first person in i dont know how long who has made it feel that its ok to take a moment to feel for myself i have forgotten how to do that! 🙏

Rosemary Kent
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, these days when do children leave home? Maybe in their 30's? I'm a grandma and believe me they always come home.

James Williams
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People used to tell me I would miss my kids being little when they grow up. HA not a chance...

Michele Varnum
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I respect and understand what you mean... we made my son on purpose and I taught him everything told him everything to the great disapproval of some of our family... 28 now he is my best friend! He also desires to never bring another into this crazy chaotic world we are in hmm I'm confident in all I taught him and very proud of all he is

Ross McGee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even when there adults and leave home I think you worry more. It don't just end there. It's a life sentence.

april jorstad
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even when they are adults and leave we aren't safe. They could come back home again. 😬

Maggie Mykle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Start setting money aside for a lawyer if you're in America! An elderly couple had to use the courts to PRY their deadbeat adult son out of THEIR home. Considering employment and rent issues "children" remain at home, many are returning, into their 40s!

Renee Lees
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once they fly the nest, they have their own babies that you love (read: worry about) just as much... and have zero say in how they're raised. It never ends, for better or worse. This coming from someone who LOVED motherhood (minus the teenager part), and Grammyhood is even better. But, it beats you down.

Brittany casey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a mom of 4. I am exhausted! I love my kids, I feel like I have had everything just sucked out of me. I told my kids when you have a kid then your whole life is over, everything now is about that kid or kids. it doesn't really get better when leave home. You realize you have missed so much of yourself like you lost yourself

D L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is my exact experience it is hell pure hell. There are very little rewards it’s just screaming and diaper changes and more worry. Then when they’re teenagers they absolutely hate you and you can never do enough to please them. It’s miserable. I feel like a slave to them. I hate it.

Liz Angel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Question because I'm curious: How did you feel about wanting kids before you had them? Were you just kinda meh? Or were you really wanting to be a parent, and then it turned out to just not be what you thought it was going to be?

Fluffy Vegan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can’t really know what it’s like till you’re in it, have some sympathy

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John Moxon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My kids were the best things that my wife and I ever did. Sure it was not easy, neither is getting a d3gree or progressing in your career. I agree though that if you don't want them don't have them.

Storm
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am in awe of your response and all I can say is yesssss, sis - you better SPEAK!! I raised 4 children and frankly it's been the most rewarding and happiest gift I could have ever hoped for. BUT - as my children grew up, of course I came into contact with other mothers/fathers, and let me tell you... It was often frightening. People who literally hate being parents are easily recognizable and it's hard to watch. And observing their children was often heartbreaking. Children know when they're unwanted and often act out accordingly. Your mature sense of what reality looks like for you, is truly commendable. I salute you, Queen! 👑 ✨

J Wurmnest
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hear ya! I'm a single parent of 2, 1 still at home and yes there are rewarding times but the worry, the aging, the cost, is huge.

Lina Ponce
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same, I'm a one and done. I don't want a repeat of the first pregnancy that almost made me want to die. Not an exaggeration, I was severely depressed and suicidal, malnourished because of food avoidance and constant morning sickness, and multiple external triggers that helped none at all. Nope.

Jaye Salter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being responsible till they are 18?? Mine are adults and I still worry about, and for, them. I love my children but i have never felt the exhaustion, frustration or heartbreak from anyone or anything else because I can walk away from other relationships, but if you are any sort of loving parent you don't break that bond no matter the struggles. #mentalillness

Channon Doughty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bad news... Most kids can't leave the nest now. Not enough good jobs to allow them to support themselves

Tracey Kneasel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love my children and do not think having kids sucks. Notice I said "My" children. If they are not my children or grandchildren I can not stand kids!

Margaret Blythe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes I love my baby. She is four and my entire world. I have no life and I know it will be like that for another decade or so. I have made peace with that. There are times where she is screaming at me that I just want to run away. Every parent probably feel this. We love our kids even though they can be assholes sometimes.

Jaime Cook
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So you say. I thought the same until they actually left. The young ones are difficult, granted, but the older ones are like best friends. You'd be surprised how much it hurts to watch your child/confidant leave.

IrishCardigan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nothing rewarding? I have unconditional love and they will look after me in my old age. Sure it's hard work but suck the life out of you is a little dramatic. If anything they make me feel younger. I get to experience life all over again through their eyes. They are the most rewarding part of my life. I raised mine right though so they are well behaved. I'm sure that plays a big part in my experience as a parent. When I'm around other people's children I appreciate mine so much haha.

Mary Bell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same! Having my children grown up and gone has been amazing. I love them without any conditions or regrets. But now it’s my time to enjoy life without having any boundaries of being a parent!

Patricia workout
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ditto...mine are mostly gone now, and as soon as my student loan debt is paid I'm going to be 23 again

Jo L.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As I read somewhere recently (I think it was a Psychology Today article), for most parents, their kids give their life a degree of purpose and meaning and that's how they reconcile the feelings of "this sucks but I don't regret it." My husband has a wonderful son who has lived with us week on, week off since he was a toddler. He is now 13. He has never given me any trouble whatsoever and we are extremely close. I can say I do get a lot of purpose and meaning from my role in raising him, as well as a lot of happiness. Now, though, having experienced all the best parts of parenting with him, my husband and I are considering a baby together. It would be a completely different dynamic and I worry more than anything about the hit to our marital happiness. That's the driving factor for me.

Bobby Edler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We had a sign on our kids bedroom doors. CHECKOUT TIME IS 19 YEARS, BE PREPARED. Now they have put the same sign on their kids doors. I love my kids and grandkids.... Having said that....I would never have had kids.

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Theresa Long
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm glad somebody said it lol. My kids ARE grown up and gone now but you're still never NOT a parent because now THEY have kids and sometimes still struggle and need help so just FYI it never ends. But you love them to your dying day so you still help when you can.

Becky Sue Anderson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And you are 1000% right. And it only gets worse. those few sweet moments between poop, vomit, sassy mouths, sleepless nights, financial ruins, losing oneself, social outcast... Etc.. you think you might be respected, loved treated like an actual human being by these people you made.., Ha! Not a chance.. well, at least not until they become parents and realize what you have gone through.

Stace Kemp
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

100% Mine are now adults, and I love them more than life itself, but being a parent is hard, and just because they're adults doesn't mean you can sit back worry free, because it is not over. Not by a long shot, now I just add guilt into the mix for my shitty parenting skills.

Laura
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That sounds exactly what I often say! Omg. My soulmate :D

MoMcB
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Leave home? Not at the minute. My daughter is 28, and can't leave due to rising housing costs. Luckily, I've never regretted having her, she's amazing.

Pinky Gladys Gutsman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is so heartbreaking! I don't know what happened to you in your childhood that you aren't seeing the immense love and happiness ONLY children can bring. I will pray for you. Your soul is broken and I think counseling would be a great idea.

Bobby
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it weird i can appreciate this view point, even understand it, but still feel like it's so wrong when applied to my life?

Corinne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's kinda sad... but I did want kids and have enjoyed getting them to adulthood..

litutje
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have one. I'm very happy with him (huge paternal instinkt). I knew I wanted kids when I was 16 years old. I wanted 4 but now I only want my one son. I only want one because he is 2 and my body still doesn't function right after my pregnancy. I could give him a brother or sister but it would mean giving up me as an active parent. We wil probably become foster parents in the future. But for now we are more then content with our only son

Mosheh Wolf
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the sort of result you have when people have kids as a "default".

Claudette Shaw
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know exactly how you feel. I love my kids to bits. But also loved when I could get away by myself for "mental health breaks". Sometimes I think I was not the best mother. Even though last year at age 29 my son out of the blue sent me a message and said, "I'm glad you are my Mum." My husband and I retired and moved thousands of miles away from our two adult children. Both our daughter and son have said they are not planning on having any children. My daughter said she likes her aunts' childfree, significant other free lifestyle. My son said this is not a good world to bring a child into. So I very much doubt I will ever be a grandmother.

Ckosturik
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just grab a claw hammer and "abort" them. It's your right

LAIS SHA
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is very sad. There are many rewarding things with being a parent. Celebrating when they’ve left? You really should consider finding someone else who will love & nurture them. You're their advocate & foundation builder.. the universe or God whatever you want to believe in put you in charge of Souls to mold & grow with. I get it ---single mom 2 of 3 w/ ASD also spinal cord injury survivor.. 1,300 miles from my parents.. and I am overwhelmed daily.. but it was my choice & my kids didn't ask to come into this world! Calm down & get some therapy! This attitude is so unhealthy, the feelings aren't wrong, but you definitely can't help but projects this onto your kids.. that's for sure.. that energy carries & destroys..

Shea Bell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Give them away to someone who cares. It’s not fair to them. . .

Shea Bell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, that’s devastating. Give them away to someone who wants them.

Jks Dunlap
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am rewarded every day with my children. You are right it can be hard. But train them right and they reward every single day.

Anna Tribe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is incredibly vindictive and probably has a great deal of satisfaction with what she has done.

Nat Middlebrooks Langford
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! Mine left home when she was 18 and I was 37 or so...enough time left for a LIFE!

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What a pile of b******t. That's just it, I won't even bother reading this through to the end. Bunch of adult babies. Wish your parents have aborted the lot of you.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers Well the total lack of wishing to have a child. Zero desire. Just like I have no desire to have a pet rhino or become a lawyer.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I watched my friends, single moms, with their kid issues. Kid's sick? I have to call out from work. School issue? I have to go see to that. Groceries? I have to make sure the kid has appropriate food, I may have to eat ramen myself though. I was never ready to make those kinds of decisions. Even two parent households had a lot to shovel through with just one kid. No thanks, I'm good by myself.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers I can barely take care of myself sometimes it feels like, can’t possibly take on another human. More selfishly there’s still a lot of things I want to do that I couldn’t if I had a kid. Lastly, just a pessimistic view of the world and the desire to not want to bring new life into that.

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Tilly Jean
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s not considered selfish if you’re choosing to look after yourself. Also, you’re thinking of the sorry world that hypothetical child will be left with in the future.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers Not wanting to pass on genetic chronic pain/mental illness. Also kids = no money

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Ozacoter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is really important. Many illneses are inheritable but it is so normalised to have biological kids that many knew the risk and still choose to have kids. Knowing that they might live in pain for their entire life. There are alternatives like egg/sperm donnors or adoption that at least avoid the genetic issues. I cannot resoect a person that will force their diseases on a child just because they want a bio kid.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers The screaming in the next aisle over at the grocery store because they can't have the <insert item> they want.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers I've just never wanted any. I never played with baby dolls as a child, I never thought twice about babysitting as a teen, and I was always uncomfortable whenever people said "*when* you have kids" (as opposed to "*if*").

I never found babies cute, I can't imagine spending 24/7 with a little human, and most of all the idea of being responsible for this little creature's happiness and growth, and making sure they become a decent, functioning human being, is *incredibly* intimidating.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah I won't lie, I find babies just downright creepy looking and their smell is in no way pleasant to me

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers After what’s going on in America right now I’m considering getting my tubes tied

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For all people considering it the subreddit "childfree" has a huge and international list of sterilisation friendly doctors.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers I've been dealing with a mentally disabled older brother for nearly all my life. He's 32 yrs old, but acts like a 7 yr old nearly ALL the time. I love him to death, but after so long of dealing with him growing up (I'm 22), I just do not have the patience to handle something like that again.

VanessaClarkLove replied: This is my big one. I feel terrible for this, but the fear of having a child that isn’t going to grow into a fully independent person with no limitations stopped me dead. If there was a guarantee they would be of average mental capability, I might reconsider.

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Kate Jones
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know, at least as someone with handicapped issues, it's understandable (and often challenged people hold down jobs and can take care of themselves well!). What's worse- and a big fear for me- is when you have a fully functional adult child who doesn't take care of themselves. You see it all the time; grown adults still living at home and can't hold down a full time job, these man-babies/ princesses who are taken care of by pushover parents. I don't mean someone who's in college and paying rent is still young and figuring things out, etc. I mean these people who still act like children when they're 30 and yell at their parents from their smelly and messy basement rooms, depressive and being willfully unhealthy or becoming drug addicts and being THAT kind of burden is a fear for some people, too. I hate to say it this way, but having loser kids is a legit fear. It's hard to live with someone who enjoys victimhood or is in an out of rehab. You shouldn't go into it thinking it's an 18 year commitment; it's possibly a lifetime commitment.

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*gestures wildly* the state of the f*****g world, maybe?

It’s irresponsible to bring a child into the world not knowing if you can provide for them a happy, healthy childhood. And as an American, I just can’t envision a future where my next of kin doesn’t suffer terribly for the economic and ecological blunders of our leadership.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers The vast majority of parents I meet complain subtley about having children and how much of a struggle it is, how expensive it is, how they get no sleep, no free time etc.

Then, they usually realise they can't be seen to complain about having children and finish their complaints by saying "But its the best thing I ever did." This part always feels like the least genuine bit and everything before feels like the truth.

Furthermore, one of my best friends has a child and spoke candidly about it, saying "I love him to bits but wish I hadn't have had a kid."

Source: Im a teacher who deals with kids and parents daily.

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Glitterati
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two things can be true at once. You can love your child fiercely but also wish they’d sleep past 5am 😄

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers Because all the "best" kid moments to me are not worth losing the ability for my husband and I to spontaneously take off a random Wednesday from our jobs, have some THC, and enjoy the 1200$ Xbox bundle we just got.

Which is what we did today. No ragrets.

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World's overpopulated, would rather rescue a kid from the system

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Suzanne Tilson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those poor souls need so much love, and the government wants to add to their ranks instead of letting same sex couples have them

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers - history of severe life altering mental health issues I would NEVER wish to risk passing on (bi-polar, clinical depression, psychosis etc) my Mother and Grandmother on her side. Somehow I seem to have turned out okay but it meant I had a really difficult upbringing, but I would hate to go through what she does and don't want to risk passing it on.

- Lack of freedom / spontaneity. My fiancé and I are like adult children, we're in our 30's and love to play computer games, go out for random ice cream at 11pm, last minute overseas holidays, go out for meals etc whenever we want, I do not want to give that up. A holiday with a child sounds like a chore to me too. Every outing has to be calculated and organised, a simple trip to the store is now a huge chore and time consuming.

- Loss of self, I don't want to become "Mummy" and nothing else. (Not saying that's what happens to everyone, but I feel some people get lost in their kids and lose all sense of themselves as their world now revolves around their children, which is understandable).

- Cost. I do not want to struggle financially, I absolutely cannot afford children and I think it is selfish to have them when you can't provide for them appropriately. Unlike some childfree people, I don't want to put all my focus into my career, I have an average job, it pays enough, without kids I am able to have a comfortable life but I also LOVE my job and am happy. If I had kids we would have to change careers or get second jobs, which I am not willing to do.

- No experience with kids, I don't know what to do with them our how to talk to them. (Please note, I don't hate kids at all, I just don't want any am and awkward with them) I have zero first cousins, my brother is also child free so no nieces or nephews, I've always been awkward around kids even as a kid, and knew from quite a young age parenthood wasn't for me. I do not feel like I have a maternal instinct at all. I do not get giddy seeing babies, but show me a puppy and i'll be melting!

- Lack of sleep, stress. I want a peaceful and somewhat simple life. I enjoy quiet, I enjoy alone time, I enjoy my sleep. Children to not align with that whatsoever.

- Affect on relationship. Children can ruin relationships, it's not their fault but they do. Lack of intimacy, lack of quality time, financial issues causing problems etc. This is something people can work through, but I don't want to risk putting a strain on my relationship as things are perfect for us as they are.

- Risk of severe disability. I absolutely am not willing to look after a severely disabled child for the rest of my life. I have seen how absolutely broken some of these parents are. I saw 2 people yesterday who were clearly husband and wife in their 70's pushing around what appeared to be their profoundly disabled 40ish year old son. That is not the life I am willing to have, but I also don't want to put myself in a position to have to give a child up for adoption.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers I have tokophobia (extreme fear of pregnancy).

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cannot upvote this enough! Catholic all girls school run by nuns, where it was rammed home that the worst thing that can happen to you was teenage pregnancy. Classmates also amplified this “fear” and judgement. For some of us, this fear stuck for life not just the school years. I’ve been explaining/citing tokophobia for decades.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers Honestly, TikTok etc..

I can raise a kid how I think right but there’s only so much you can shield them from the internet and I’m scared of what the future holds with celebrity/influencer brainwashing culture.
I feel like my generation (early 90’s) was the last generation that was largely safe from this..

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel this so much. I want kids, but this is something that really worries me about how I'm going to raise them. The Internet is as harmful as it is useful.

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I find them annoying.

Also I have no paternal instinct, don't have the temperament to be a good parent, and I'm poor.

It would be unfair to any child to have me imposed on them as a parent.

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Esiaa
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'I'm poor' this. I barely have enough for myself sometimes. I can't imagine having a kid. Unless the kid gets a job too.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers Those kids who have parents that are perfectly normal but still somehow act like mini serial killers.

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Well-Dressed Wolf
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children are born without ethics and morals pre-installed. Of course they’re tiny sociopaths until their parents teach them better… and sometimes, not even normal/good parents can teach them better because the kids don’t WANT to learn society’s rules and conform to them.

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#24

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers my mental health and financial situation. i wouldn’t want to raise a kid the same way i was raised.

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It costs too much. The average birth costs like 40k without complications. Decent daycare near me is $1400 a month. That alone is crippling.

It's bad for the environment and I question the morality of putting my children through the potential climate wars and/or apocalypse.

Also, sometimes despite your best efforts and doing everything correctly, your kids turn out to be a**holes.

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Panda Kicki
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The cost issue is really dependent on where you live. We have free maternal care and delivery in Sweden and the max cost of daycare is about 150 dollars for the first kid and cheaper for siblings. (Sweden)

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers I’ve been clinically depressed for almost a decade. Post partum depression is one of the things that terrifies me about the prospect of having kids. Also I am in no way mentally stable enough to be a parent.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pregnancy and childbirth gave me severe ptsd. I had PPD and anxiety. I can’t have any more children due to the impact on my mental health. The struggle is real. I still wouldn’t change a thing as my child is the love of my life but if I had never known that love I wouldn’t miss it.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers Watching my sister's kid get kicked out of daycare for slamming a kids face into a table and hitting a teacher. he's 3, and the most difficult kid I've met.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know that I've ever hated something as much as I've hated the difficult kids I've taught. Just little animals.

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I love my kids but they completely ruined my life and i don't advocate for anyone to have them

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers My neighbor has 7 of them. The only form of communication in that house is screaming. The teenage boy just screamed in the middle of my typing this. Kid is absolute s***e at whatever game he's trying to play. My work meetings are constantly interrupted by his whiny cursing/crying sessions.

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Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers Pregnancy.
I’ve always been terrified of pregnancy, but I thought I’d feel more comfortable with it as I got older.
Nope. I’m 34 and the thought of being pregnant still freaks me out to no end. I’d love to adopt, but I don’t think I ever want to be pregnant.

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Marianne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Adoption is so important! Pregnancy is not necessary to be a loving parent!

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#31

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers 47 married no kids.

DINK life is amazing. Out of all my friends from growing up etc who have kids ranging from 3 years to 24, my wife and I have the least amount of stress. So many of them are divorced with complicated child visit schedules. So many of them can't take vacations and do things they want to do. They are stressed out all the time.

Then COVID hit-- and holy s**t. My wife and I had like a 4 month vacation during the shut down. Working out, sitting by the pool all day, watching movies, drinking cocktails on the patio- it was a taste of retirement- and its within our reach by 55. We saw our friends dealing with all the complications with virtual school etc. Yikes.

We have a low stress life. We have enough money to do what we want, live where we want, travel when we want, drive nice cars, go to nice restaurants, take a weekend in Napa, etc.

The idea that you MUST have kids is insane. There are too many people on Earth. We are going into a time of food and water shortages, probably wars over resources. Its just not worth it. We're at the end of the pinnacle of civilization in my opinion. People won't be able to live as comfortable as we can now because resources will be scarce and sadly humans seem to have no desire to solve the climate problem before its too late.

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Julie Rod
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, too many people! Which is why i think people who are against abortion are insane. Population would be out of control if every pregnancy was carried to term. It's already hard enough to compete for jobs, homes, etc. Abortion is simple and effective population control.

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#32

Watching Supernanny… AND watching horny and selfish people reproduce, only to abuse their children when they’re older 🤗

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was watching supernanny and those kids behaved so monstrous. A kid in the comments said: oh I feel like I'm such a good kid now. What's my mom complaining about? I said: I'm gonna tell my kids now that they're wonderful angels.

#33

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers After rent, food, and insurance I only come away with 200$ a month profit. Which is usually eaten up by a single doctor visit or necessary car part. And I live with two roommates.

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#34

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers thought climate change would be the most obvious answer. people who are young now are gonna suffer, but kids being born now are going to face hell.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Indeed. I live now in a very warm and dry area that 30y ago when i was a kid was visibly colder and rainier (still warm but less bad). Nobody in places of power gives a c**p about the environment. There is more hot days, less rain and we use more water. In a generation or two the nature here might be closer to a desert than a forest. I would never want kids to see this.

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#35

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers I work for Disney, and what I can say is 50% of parents look miserable. You’re on vacation with your family, and everyone’s miserable the whole time. That worries me. If your kid can’t stop crying in public on vacation, how does that kid react at home?

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#36

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers I do not want to deal with pregnancy, I do not want my perineum cut open, I don't want to p**s my pants for the rest of my life.

I do not have the patience to be a good mother. I do not have the skills. I was horrifically abused as a child and then dumped in the foster care system. I never ever had a sane and stable guardian, so what skills could I bring? Of courses most people's answer is that 'you figure it out', but I am a twice degreed Social Worker with extensive experience working with people who should not have been parents, and I can tell you that sometimes you do NOT figure it the f**k out.

Money. I JUST got to the point where I'm positive I can have enough money to pay my bills AND eat. And I'm about to turn 40 years old. If I had a child before this time, I would've been extremely stressed due to poverty, and just ended up working two jobs and never seeing the kid.

The father. Takes two to make a baby, and I've never met a man I want to deal with for the rest of my life.

I love to travel solo. I love to explore this world (well, in the Before Times, anyway). I would not have the time, money, or ability to travel the way I want.

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Kate Jones
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like that you mentioned the physical trauma of having a child. It often goes unsaid. While most women generally recover fine and the postpartum is temporary, it's not the case for everyone and birth is extremely dangerous. It can change your body in ways that never go back. And if you truly want kids then it's a sacrifice you're happy to make. But physical repercussions shouldn't just be brushed off. A lot of people on this list have mentioned how much you love your kids but that's a very instinctual thing. If you say 'I'm miserable, but I love them,' then you aren't happy; you're giving into an instinctual love of your offspring that is often ingrained in your lizard brain to keep them alive. It's not a choice and it can have long-lasting physical affects on you. And we don't talk about that enough. It's like loving your parents just because you're 'supposed to' but if you're being abused, you shouldn't stay.

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#37

One of the BIG reasons is that no one I know that has children makes it look the least bit attractive. They use their children alternately as trophies, bargaining chips, and excuses. If I had kids I'd have to hang out with parents more, and my god, they're boring. I was part of a book club once that happened to be mostly moms. The first couple of sessions we talked about the books and our hobbies, but then they co-opted the whole thing to talk about their boring-a*s kids.

I also enjoy freedom with my husband. We both work from home and can travel quite a bit when we want. It's already hard enough to find a petsitter.

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Suzanne Tilson
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having kids for any other reason than to love UNCONDITIONALLY ( even if they are LGBTQ or free thinking) is the most awful move I have ever heard of. Not retirement plan. Not gene collector. Nothing . End of discussion

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#38

I was briefly married to a pedophile. It made it clear to me that I can't tell who has the potential to be a threat to my child's well being. I've known several women who were victims of CSA. I couldn't bear the thought of my child suffering like they do. It seemed like a better idea to just opt out.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Im a trans male and i was raped in niddle school and i am now being sexually assaulted in high school by going into the males bathroom while still looking like my birth sex. I have never been the same afterwards. I can never look at having children the same way again. I can never look at sex the same way again. I'm Asexual but not just because I have no interest in sex. I am terrifed of someone else touching me the same way others have even if that person in the future has consent. People have touched me too many times without consent. Hell, i was sexually assaulted by my own cousin at 9 ,the first time i met him. I cant even talk to him now.

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#39

1. Trauma my parents gave me
2. Cost of having a child
3. Loss of freedom
4. Potential of raising a murderer or rapist
5. Health issues before, after and during pregnancy

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#40

Glanced at a newspaper recently?

Everything written in it is worse than they're saying, on balance.

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#41

I don’t want my person/offspring/child to be hurt by the s**tty people in this world. Overall I think I could make a decent person, but it’s the crappy ones that make me not want to put someone else here.

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#42

Late Stage Capitalism and Climate Change

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#43

Seeing my family. This curse ends with me.

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#44

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers It's irreversible, you can't unhave kids when you've committed to it, so when you have all those doubts and fears you might not be a good parent, it's hard to take the plunge.

Plus I'd have to find someone to have a kid with and make more money for it to be viable but I think they're secondary to actually wanting to go through with it.

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#45

Not trusting myself enough that I'd be motivated enough to take care about them constantly and treat them the way they deserve!

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#46

All of it - the money, the time, the mental toll, the world we live in, the overpopulation, the lack of interest in kids, the lack of a partner, the presumable lack of parental skills, my own autism, the autism that my kids would probably inherit...

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#47

mainly I don't want to put up with them, I don't need to deal with kid s**t that never stops, just changes form.

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#48

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers It’s taken me 30 years to “find myself.” When I imagine losing all of that identity and replacing it with a big MAMA BEAR sticker, my stomach turns.
There are some aspects of having a kid that are appealing: they’ll adore me, they might end up loving all the same music/ movies/ hobbies as me, they’ll love and care for me when I’m old. But none of that is guaranteed and seems selfish and also not worth the gamble.

Also my family generally ignores me but loses their minds around babies and if that’s the only reason they would want to be in my life then no thanks.

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Suzanne Tilson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These were all the reasons I contemplated it. Glad common sense kicked in.

#49

Generational trauma. Trying my best to change the family script!

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#50

They're loud, annoying, expensive, gross, and I like to sleep. I don't want to be woken up in the middle of the night

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#51

I recognize the irony here… but they’re selfish… and ungrateful. Kids rarely show gratitude for anything you do for them, they don’t like to share, they’re wildly disrespectful, and I don’t have the tool set to correct those things before they become free actors in society.

Kids can ruin the mood in an entire room or establishment, they can destroy the most valuable things you own without real consequence, they can hurt people both physically and emotionally, and they build a prison around you financially. Doesn’t that sound terrible?

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VM37
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The things you are describing are just kids not beeing raised right. I don't mean to bragg or idolise myself, but my kids are pollite, frendly, pattient to other. They are happy to share toys, know not to take other toys without permission. Never tuined anything while we were guests. I make sure they don't brother people in public places. So children are not little goblins by default, they become due to lack of parental guidence.

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#52

I don't think being born into this s**t is something I want to inflict on another person without their consent. If I felt that being a good parent and helping my kid was enough, I would consider it. As it stands, I'm much more interested in adoption.

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Libstak
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This. Having no control of the future of the children to ensure they won't suffer just trying to live in this world, also I hate that we all die at some point and then disappear in the cold corners of history like we never mattered at all. Totally morbid, I know but why would I add to what I see as the end result of countless lives lived before me that are just gone now.

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#53

The idea of being responsible for a human being isn't for me.

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Suzanne Tilson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up with three younger siblings and parents who are lawyers...lawyers. responsibility gets tiring

#54

I want to spend my time and money doing what I enjoy. I can't do that with kids.

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#55

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers Losing the rest of my youth in exchange for raising a child.

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#56

I would be a *terrible* parent.

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#57

The time, the expense. I don’t like kids much. It just never felt like a good match for me and it wouldn’t be fair to have kids knowing how I feel about it.

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#58

The idea that I'd rather be an established surgeon living a comfortable life rather than a struggling white collar worker attempting to juggle a family and marriage.

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#59

Children are cool and all but they consume your life. They become your main responsibility, take all your love and you give it willingly, require so much money and they're just their own person. It's cool that we're able to do that and it sounds fun, sometimes. But if that's my life for the rest of my life? No thank you.

I just want to be my own person.

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Well-Dressed Wolf
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I took care of my disabled father after he had an accident when I was 18. Being his primary caregiver consumed my life. I never moved out, never got married, had no free time, never went on a trip/vacation, etc. My father just passed away last year after 21 years of being bedridden and brain-damaged. I cared for him willingly as I loved him and did not want to leave him to my mother’s care (she’s your classic narcissistic abuser and used to physically abuse my dad before his accident) but caring for my father showed me emphatically that kids were a big NO THANKS. I want to be my own person finally, like OP does.

#60

All the poop, pee, cries, and screams 🤣

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#61

Someone Asks "What Makes You Not Want To Have Kids?" And 30 People Deliver Sincere Answers Money, responsibility, not having any good genes to pass on.

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#62

I'd be a control freak out of fear, too much responsibility plus i hate crying.

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#63

In my opinion, you have one life, why waste it on kids? Why waste all the time, money, effort, on kids? After you die, you die. Kids need tons of love, care, attention and so forth, i aint capable of providing that shii anyways, i am dead inside and i wouldnt make a good father figure

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#64

At the end of the day, it's my wife's personal decision if she wants to put herself through that. The more we hang out with couples the that have decided not to raise children and are in the same socioeconomic class as us, the better that situation looks on just about every front.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, at the end of the day it MUST be the decision of both of you, and you will be equally responsible for the child’s care. Either of you has the right to veto having a child. Your idea the the child-bearing decision is completely on her sounds like the usual BS that a man/sperm donor would believe as a pre-rationale for walking out in his Baby Mama.

#65

I wake up everyday wanting to make myself happy, enjoy life, and travel. It sounds a bit selfish - but I know I'd be unhappy and resentful knowing my sole purpose was taking care of children and their happiness. It's 18 years of putting your needs last and I'd rather be able to choose what I do for myself everyday.

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#66

I work fulltime in a crèche. There's no way I'm spending 9-6 with children and then coming home to more children. Nope.

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Suzanne Tilson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Great thing about teaching kids. You can send the little minions back and only have to deal with them periodically

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#67

The economy.
I grew up in a huge family so I've always been around children and love spending time with them but it's gotten so expensive to have one that I worry my income will never be where it should be to give a child a good life without stressing me or my wife out 24/7

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#68

Bottom dysphoria, being gay/ace as f**k, crumbling capitalist society, the erosion of reason and logic in our government, crushing poverty and the lack of stable long-term housing, lack of healthcare and daycare options, unfulfilled ambitions that are more appealing than parenthood right now...

You know. Millennial problems.

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#69

All the suffering I have and all life in time is enough to convince me to make the choice not to procreate. Adoption maybe if I was rich and successful.

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#70

Germaphobia, I don’t like crumbs and spilled juice everywhere.

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