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Employee Is Surprised His Badge Is Not Working, Team Lead Reminds Him That He Left Work Early The Day Before, Saying He Was Quitting
People like to say to others to be careful what they wish for as it may come true. Maybe we don’t need to take it literally, but the things you say do have meaning and some of them have consequences.
If you announce at your workplace that you are quitting, it doesn’t matter that you don’t mean it, but in some places it can have a legal value and management may take it seriously, especially if they already don’t like you.
This one team lead took the opportunity to get rid of an employee who wasn’t very productive and had anger management issues by maliciously complying with their boss’ order to do as they see fit.
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The story takes place a few years ago when the Original Poster (OP) worked for an internet service provider and was a team lead. The way they described their work was “Basically we took the orders that sales made and provisioned circuits to facilitate the customers’ needs.”
Only the seniors like OP themselves and another teammate were assigned customers, but others would get them randomly and new ones every day.
The narrator was a team lead in an internet service provider company and had an employee that was a bit dramatic and hot-headed
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There was one employee that didn’t like this system and was a hot head in general. The OP called him Ginger in this story. Ginger didn’t like that when the customers were assigned for the day, the OP would get skipped because they were handling assignments from his customers that he always did.
This one time, OP got more assignments from their customers than usual, so Ginger kept getting more and more. After a few of them, he got up and just left, apparently having had enough. These orders would take 2 or 3 minutes to finish, so no big deal, but it immensely irritated Ginger to get 2 in a row.
As the OP explained in the comments, “There was no requirement to have orders done in a certain period of time, there was no requirement for him to have today’s work done today.”
They didn’t like having customer orders sent to them instead of the team lead as they had assigned customers they worked with all the time
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The manager acknowledged what happened and before going on vacation, asked the OP to tell him if Ginger showed up to work the following day. He actually did, but was in a worse mood than before and threatened to quit if he got any more orders. It didn’t take long for him to announce “That’s it, I quit.”
The team lead thought that this was worth mentioning to their boss despite him being on vacation, but the boss allowed the OP to handle it in their own way. So they interpreted the statement as a request to leave, called HR and terminated the work contract.
He left work early once because he was fed up with the orders and the boss told the team lead to keep an eye on the employee before leaving for vacation
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That meant disconnecting his badge, removing his access, turning off his email and everything else. Which is important to note as the next day, Ginger came back to work and tried to use his badge, but it didn’t work.
The OP saw his argument with the security guard and interrupted it by acting surprised Ginger came as the day before, he had quit his job. The interaction ended here and the OP doesn’t know what happened to the hot-headed employee, but thinks of him sometimes. Not too much, because the team’s productivity went up, but you can’t help but be curious.
The next day, the employee did the same thing and announced they were quitting, which the team lead took as a resignation
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The OP mentioned that they are in an at-will state, which means “that an employer can terminate an employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability. Likewise, an employee is free to leave a job at any time for any or no reason with no adverse legal consequences,” as explained by National Conference Of State Legislatures.
The US is one of the few countries in the world where employment is mostly at will. Stephanie Jane Hahn explains that there are a few advantages for this system: “Because employers are able to change the employee’s terms of employment as they wish, the objectives of the company may be met more easily.”
She also adds that employers have more freedom to reward their employees based on their merits and employees “have control over their work situation and can choose to walk away when they wish to do so.”
It seemed that the boss was pretty happy as he didn’t want to do it himself despite knowing that it was what was bringing their team performance down
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Image credits: Kecko (not the actual photo)
Another disadvantage that the lawyer doesn’t mention is that if you don’t mean to quit but say that you do, the employer may interpret it as a serious statement, as it happened in this story. The OP had a feeling that their manager didn’t want to deal with it himself and was actually relieved that it happened during his vacation.
What do you think of this story? Would you say that the team lead went too far? What is your opinion on at-will employment? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.
While most people couldn’t understand how the employee was surprised they didn’t have a job anymore, some considered the termination evil
What do you think ?
Frando Bone 2 years ago
You are free to choose your actions but never free from the consequences. Good riddance.
StrangeOne 2 years ago (edited)
That's not entirely true about what Initial_school7286 said about Canada and constructive dismissal. This doesn't sound like a situation where there was a voluntary quit over a breach of contract. He just couldn't handle the job. Employers in Canada actually have a lot of immunity when it comes to letting employees go. They can fire you for "just cause" reasons, and are not obligated to keep an employee, even if it's for no particular solid reason. But it would take a real jackass of a boss to actually do that. It does happen, though. The only thing this employer would have to do is state to EI that the employee voluntarily quit after walking out and saying he quit. The proof is in the witness and the time logged.
Justin Jones 2 years ago
I work for a guy that has multiple companies. He felt one of his companies was underperforming and went in to office of the president to meet with him. He started to define the changes he wanted. The guy said "Heck, I have half a mind to quit". My boss said "Your resignation is accepted. Have your office cleaned out by the end of day". He then walked out. He then called the office manager and asked him to lock the guy out of the system and watch him to make sure he didn't leave with anything he wasn't suppose to. I knew the office manager - he told me the ex-President just sat at his desk for the next 15 minutes staring into space. Don't threaten if you don't mean it.
CV Vir 2 years ago
“I have half a mind to quit” isn’t the same as “I quit.” (Manager in the US can fire someone for almost any reason, but in terms of the interaction, it makes no sense.)
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Frando Bone 2 years ago
You are free to choose your actions but never free from the consequences. Good riddance.
StrangeOne 2 years ago (edited)
That's not entirely true about what Initial_school7286 said about Canada and constructive dismissal. This doesn't sound like a situation where there was a voluntary quit over a breach of contract. He just couldn't handle the job. Employers in Canada actually have a lot of immunity when it comes to letting employees go. They can fire you for "just cause" reasons, and are not obligated to keep an employee, even if it's for no particular solid reason. But it would take a real jackass of a boss to actually do that. It does happen, though. The only thing this employer would have to do is state to EI that the employee voluntarily quit after walking out and saying he quit. The proof is in the witness and the time logged.
Justin Jones 2 years ago
I work for a guy that has multiple companies. He felt one of his companies was underperforming and went in to office of the president to meet with him. He started to define the changes he wanted. The guy said "Heck, I have half a mind to quit". My boss said "Your resignation is accepted. Have your office cleaned out by the end of day". He then walked out. He then called the office manager and asked him to lock the guy out of the system and watch him to make sure he didn't leave with anything he wasn't suppose to. I knew the office manager - he told me the ex-President just sat at his desk for the next 15 minutes staring into space. Don't threaten if you don't mean it.
CV Vir 2 years ago
“I have half a mind to quit” isn’t the same as “I quit.” (Manager in the US can fire someone for almost any reason, but in terms of the interaction, it makes no sense.)
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