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Man Endures Hell During Wife’s Pregnancy, Divorces Her When Things Get Worse After Birth
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Man Endures Hell During Wife’s Pregnancy, Divorces Her When Things Get Worse After Birth

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Mood swings during pregnancy are common. Due to hormonal shifts, expectant parents can feel blissfully happy one moment and teary or highly frustrated the other. Usually, these rapid emotional changes subside when pregnancy goes into the second trimester and can pick up again at the end of it. 

For this mom-to-be, the mood swings lasted the whole pregnancy and became even worse after birth as she developed postpartum depression. Her husband couldn’t help but notice that his wife did a whole 180 when she became pregnant. It got to a point where she became abusive and he made the decision to protect himself and the child and divorce her.

Scroll down to find the full story and a conversation with perinatal mental health nurse and founder of EmPowerMatrescence, Emma Snelgar, who kindly agreed to tell us more about mental health during pregnancy.

Intense mood swings are common at the beginning of the pregnancy and often subside after the first trimester

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For this pregnant woman, it continued for the whole pregnancy and afterward, she even started exhibiting abusive behavior

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“Abusive behaviours are not a normal symptom of pregnancy”

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“Pregnancy can trigger intense hormonal shifts, this we know,” says perinatal mental health nurse and founder of EmPowerMatrescence, Emma Snelgar.

“Physical discomfort, psychological stress, and life changes can influence mood and behaviour. Emotional symptoms like irritability, frustration, or anger can become overwhelming. In some cases, underlying conditions such as anxiety, depression, and previous trauma can exacerbate these symptoms,” she explains.

A lack of recognition and support through such changes can intensify such emotional symptoms, says Snelgar. “Anger can also stem from fear of the unknown—pregnancy, birth, and becoming a mother for the first time can be daunting,” she adds.

If the woman didn’t have the best childhood, which might encompass experiencing poverty, abuse, or poor attachment to primary givers (e.g. avoidant, disorganized, or anxious), she can feel fearful of bringing a child into the same environment she grew up in.

However, Snelgar notes, “Whilst frustration and anger are not uncommon, abusive behaviours are not a “normal” symptom of pregnancy and could indicate deeper mental health issues that warrant professional support.”

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Many barriers might prevent pregnant women from seeking help

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Even though pregnant parents might be aware that their symptoms require professional attention, many barriers might prevent them from seeking help. One of them is stigma, or the fear of being judged or perceived as a “bad mother.” “This can also include a deep fear of having their baby taken off them if they are perceived as such,” notes Snelgar.

In addition, they might not have access to care, mistrust healthcare professionals due to previous negative experiences, have unsupportive relationships in their life or are conditioned by society to think that discomfort during pregnancy is normal and they shouldn’t be overly dramatic about it. All of these circumstances can hinder their willingness to seek out help. There’s also the possibility that they don’t recognize that their intense feelings go beyond typical pregnancy stress.

During such time, a partner’s support is crucial. This means “encouraging open communication with a curious, non-judgemental approach, educating themselves about common mental health challenges during pregnancy to validate her experiences, offering support without pressure by gently suggesting professional help without feeling forced or judged, enlisting other trusted supports—encouraging her to talk to close family or friends, and providing practical support—reducing stress by sharing responsibilities or taking on some of the mental load, and attending appointments with her.”

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However, it’s important to recognize limits. “If her behaviours are harmful to herself or others, it may be time to involve other healthcare professionals or perinatal services,” says Snelgar. “As a partner, it may also be helpful to find psychological support for yourself to help navigate these changes, and with that, you are also normalising seeking psychological support for these major life changes you are both going through.”

Most readers supported the husband, calling out the wife’s abusive behavior

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LakotaWolf (she/her)
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As the child of a woman who was the abuser in my parents' relationship, OP needs to ESCAPE. Don't look back. Save the child. It is WELL beyond "pregnancy hormones" or PPD when someone gets violent and physically abuses you. My mother used to beat my dad regularly. She would even get knives from the kitchen and slice his arms and back - it was a regular thing for me to walk into a room and find him covered in blood with his shirt in shreds. He never raised his voice to her or fought back. He never "instigated" her or started fights. And unsurprisingly, my mom eventually started abusing me as well. I hope OP sticks to his decision and protects his child.

Mari
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes he has to protect his child because she will abuse the kid. My mum was also the abuser and my dad was loving her much to divorce her. She was abusing him mentally not physicly.But we (kids) were her victims and we are suffering until this day from the trauma.

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DC and S
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6 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hormones can be a mega b*tch and super intense, but that NEVER gives anyone an excuse to be abusive. You can't control the hormones, but you DO control your words and actions.... And she's suddenly "all better" in less than 3 weeks? Pretty sure that's not how it works. Glad he has tons of evidence and that everyone around him knows the truth now too. Take it and run!

Sue User
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thats the flag for me. I lived woth someone who was mentally ill. When he had an episode it would take days to stabalise and weeks to get to normal. Now this is the extreme end but you dont get well that fast.

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LaserBrain
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6 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she did it before, she'll probably do it again, even after all the apologies. Classic abuser cycle. No one should feel like they have to walk on eggshells, that's a huge red flag.

CanadianDimes
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if she never did it again and it was a violent psychosis, she still did it. She can get help, heal, and move on to hopefully have a healthy relationship with someone who isn’t OP because he deserves to not be with someone who abused him. No matter what help she gets, she still did all of that and he was her victim. He doesn’t need to be in a position where he even worries he could be again.

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Mike F
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the "sickness and health" things that the YTA crowd is tossing around, but I wonder what their reaction would be when THEY required medical treatment for her battery? Those words are easy to say when they are not the people being clobbered with a coffee cup that requires stitches. This happened to me ONCE and I was gone. They need to climb down from their perches and walk a mile in the shoes of the OP, THEN proclaim "sickness and health" when it's their health at stake. Morons.

painttheyellowsubgreen
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Apparently they think he should wait for the "until death do we part", without taking into consideration the death she causes may not be OPs. It might be their child's. But then, the YTAs are probably the abusers in their own relationships.

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Schmebulock
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6 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Abuse is and always should be a deal breaker. Get rid of that psycho.

notlikeyou1971
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a domestic violence survivor I am going to be the 1st person to tell you it's not acceptable for her to put her hands on you.DO NOT TAKE HER BACK! Do not listen to anyone who is trying to pressure you to forgive her or take her back just because you have a child. There is no reason for you to be with someone who has been abusive just for the sake of being " a family". Stay away from her. It's possible that she will do this again. They all say that they are going to change and how sorry they are. Even if they verbally abuse, it's a sign . Remember that anyone who puts their hands on you lacks self control. Imagine if she loses her temper and takes it out on your child. With an abuser it's not a matter of IF they will do it again it's a matter of WHEN. RUN DON'T WALK AWAY FROM HER AND PROTECT YOURSELF AND THE BABY!

Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

3 weeks is barely enough time to get a doctors appointment, let alone see a therapist, a psychiatrist, get medication, fill it, and take it long enough to see any effects. What a weird thing to lie about.

Nicole
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people in the family telling this guy to give her a second chance just want her to become his problem again instead of theirs. Whatever is going on there will take extensive therapy if it could ever be fixed so there’s no way he and the baby should go back in to an unsafe environment.

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That she can turn it on and off to manipulate outsiders, means she knows what she's doing, she knows it's wrong but she doesn't carr enough to actially get healthy. That type of violence and rage isnt fixed after a a few months of therapy, so its clear she's pretending again. I hope the kid and dad get far, far away. Very glad the letter will help that case.

DaisyBee
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People acting like he’s the a*****e - SHE BURNED HIM WITH HOT COFFEE AND SMASHED THE CUP OVER HIS HEAD, REQUIRING STITCHES, WHILE HE WAS TENDING TO THEIR BABY!!! Pregnancy & post partum didn’t create the monster she “became”, it just showed the monster she was all along.

Aline
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6 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do not let anyone who has become physically violent over opening a jar around your child. MAYBE after a lot of therapy and years of demonstrating it has worked, but clearly she can turn this on and off when it suits her, so this probably won't happen, as it's a choice. Not just good days and bad days but when it suits her strategically, she can control herself. And yet has chosen not to control herself at home, she's not going to choose to be kind, empathetic and generous with a young child, when her patience is tested. Don't let her near the kid. Get a restraining order asap.

Alexandra
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For all intents and purposes, the wife he knew is simply dead. He will never get back that feeling for her nor the life they lived together. His main priority should be his son and that he grows up in a stable home. A child benefits more from a stable home than from two parents, whether that stable home involves one parent, 2 parents, parents of the same sex or otherwise.

Bookworm
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Setting aside the suspicious timing of this sudden change of heart and decision to go to therapy (I agree there's some gaslighting/love bombing red flags here) - let's say purely for the sake of argument, that she was telling the truth. It was all pregnancy-related psychosis, she didn't have rational control of her actions, the therapist gives her medication and it fixes everything and she never does any of this again in her life. How is the husband going to trust her? Will he ever be able to look at her the same way? Have a normal argument without being afraid that it's happening all over again? Leave her alone with the kid? Some things don't come with takebacks, no matter how genuinely sorry you are.

Natalia
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTAs are f*****g unhinged. In sickness and in health has got nothing whatsoever to do with someone physically assaulting you.

Xenia Harley
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The person who pointed out she is now calling OP the a**hole, they are right. She has not "gotten better" and is still being abusive. Someone who is truly sorry understands how they screwed up. Do not go back, and get full custody!

Paul Rabit
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. Sorry. Once you become violently abusive to anyone - all bets are off - including whatever vows you promised in happier times.

Elvira394
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ve had 3 babies, and I can say that something similar happened to me. I never get mad, yell, insult or get assaultive. But during the first trimester every pregnancy…I…HATE…EVERYONE. I was at least able to recognize the problem most likely was my emotions and not what other people were doing, but I have to admit the only reason I never escalated to being aggressive was simply because I would literally tell people to their face “I hate everything right now and I can’t not be angry with everything, you need to get away from me”, then pretty much avoided all human contact as much as possible until the second trimester. Pregnancy really can flip some weird switches in some women’s brain. It is absolutely no excuse for abuse, and OP should leave, you can’t undo that kind of abuse, especially the violence. Just really sad though, if only she’d been willing to get help early on, it could possibly have saved her a divorce. Such a shame.

GlitterPanda
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is only seeking help because after her parents kicked her out she had nowhere to go. This isn't her actively wanting to change, it is her having no choice if she doesn't want to be homeless.

T.M.P Janssen
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously, the people saying "in sickness and health" can go f**k themselves. She could have killed him easily with that mug, emotionally and otherwise physically abused him for so long and people sit there like "bUt ThEiR MaRrIaGe!" Get your own head beaten in and come talk again. I have mental health issues too which is the reason I dont date at all, to not pull people down to my level rn or even worse. It might not be her fault to be mentally ill but its her own duty to not make it other peoples problem like THAT.

Tobias Reaper
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

all the YTA idiots if this was a man who abused a woman none of them would be saying this.

Anna Drever
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I initially wanted him to be supportive of her believing she was going through something but the more I read I just felt so bad for him. There’s no coming back from that. The abuse she literally hurled at him must have been awful.

Nimitz
Community Member
5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is it it's okay for family members to assault and attempt murder and get away with it without any real consequences? My dad would strangle us like Homer Simpson, or worse, pick us up by the throat and choke us out with our feet dangling in the air. If a man walks up to a kid on the street and does that, he's going to jail for a long, long time. But if a person does that to a spouse or child they need counselling. Pack your bags and get what justice you can because you won't get much. Hurray for her getting medication, but she ONLY chose to get help to avoid consequences and jail. The abuse will come back, eventually. That's what life has taught me. Eventually she'll hurt you again and you owe it to your kid to protect them from that.

Bookworm
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know there's a lot of talk about how men 'reveal their true selves ' when their partner is pregnant and they think she's trapped. This is the other side of it. And yes it may be changes due to pregnancy. But if being pregnant causes you to be abusive and you refuse to get help then you're choosing to be abusive. Switch the genders and everyone would be saying run and don't look back. I'm glad he's getting out and doing his best to take his son with him.

Tabitha
Community Member
6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s a limit to everything. “In sickness and in health” does not mean sticking around and enduring years of abuse and putting your children at risk of harm with someone who doesn’t even want to seek help (if they’re aware enough to want to get better, that’s different). It applies more to the a******s who divorce their spouses because they’re dying of cancer and don’t have the strength to have sex anymore. WTF, right? How selfish to put your genitals before the person you’re supposed to love who is facing a slow and agonizing death.

Earonn -
Community Member
1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's no way we would advise a sister to take him back, were the roles reversed. For me, it's the fact that she was all sweet when others were around - she knew what she did was wrong

James King
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the YTA ones because "what about in sickness and in health"? Well, that goes out the friggin' window when you have to go get stitches because your spouse smashed a cup of hot coffee over your head. Idiots.

Lupita Nyong'heaux
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the YTAs on this one have convinced me that they are fabricated by BP to foster engagement. there is no f*****g way in hell ANY rational person would say "in sickness and in health" includes domestic abuse and violence. would they be saying the same thing if it was the wife getting the s**t beat outta her on the regular? no, they wouldn't. these YTA comments are made up.

Lailu
Community Member
5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bet if it was a man beating on a woman the YTAs would tell her to leave and she would be NTA. Men get abused in relationships too.

Crouching hippo hidden panda
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTA posts are mad. In sickness and in health, does not mean you should stick around and put up with abuse. What about the respect each other part? She sounds evil and narcissistic.

Lynda Murray
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She could abuse him, then turn it round to be sweetness and light in front of other people and make out he was the bad guy? That’s calculated and in control. Gaslighting, manipulation. Divorce. Protect the child. Protect himself.

moggie63
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Yes officer, of course I killed my husband but, you know, hormones!" The YTA's are as demented as the wife.

Juanita Sullivan
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is narcissistic behavior. Very dangerous. Proceed with the divorce!

The Starsong Princess
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5 days ago

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I think op should approach his wife with an attitude of compassion and give her an opportunity to prove that she is now well. Psychosis during pregnancy and post partum is a real thing. But I still think he should proceed with the divorce and getting custody because the trust is gone and he needs to act in his son’s best interest. He should concentrate on building a positive co parenting arrangement with her with supervised visits (swhich she will get even if he gets full custody) and look to consider revising arrangements if all goes well in a year or two.

DC and S
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where's the compassion for him and his child? Compassion isn't excusing or justifying abuse. and you do NOT get to expose your child to abuse (or to witness abuse) under the guide of compassion. Compassion here is walking away and keeping him and his kid safe. Co-parenting is not in the cards until, at the very least, she puts a lot of hard work and time in. And even then it's unlikely. Regardless of the reasons, actions DO have consequences and she will have to live with that.

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Pablo Ramos
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5 days ago

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Her change was likely hormonal, and.it may not have been her fault at all. If you really love her, and she is committed to change and get help, not just pills, but serious counseling, it might be worth to give her another chance. After all, she would be on probation, and if she slips back into Mr. Hyde, then you can honestly say you gave it a try. But, again, only if you truly love her still and she you.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And what if during that "one slip" she injures or even kills the child? No. People who have shown that they are physically abusive shouldn't get another chance to hurt or possibly even maim or kill their victims.

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Doodles1983
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6 days ago

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From the comments, there is a serious lack of understanding about what pregnancy and being postpartum can do to a woman. Not only is it hormonal and messing with your endocrine system and immune systems, it causes physical changes in and to the brain. He has known her for 8 years. Say, 6 before all the pregnancy - related stuff occurred. If she was capable of it without pregnancy, there is a high likelihood it would have happened. But it hadn't. Which says pregnancy and post, were major factors. I honestly am torn. But, I think he should think seriously before proceeding. At the very least meet and speak to her in person, leaving the baby with someone her trusts. Maybe in a therapists office. Then decide on progress from there. Either give it a few months of therapy, then a date. Or divorce and full-custody. Consider supervised visitation. Safety of baby first. But my gut says this was all driven by her body. Not her.

Papa
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The part about how when her parents visited she was back to her old self, but then was abusive again as soon as they left makes me wonder if pregnancy hormones were really to blame.

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LakotaWolf (she/her)
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As the child of a woman who was the abuser in my parents' relationship, OP needs to ESCAPE. Don't look back. Save the child. It is WELL beyond "pregnancy hormones" or PPD when someone gets violent and physically abuses you. My mother used to beat my dad regularly. She would even get knives from the kitchen and slice his arms and back - it was a regular thing for me to walk into a room and find him covered in blood with his shirt in shreds. He never raised his voice to her or fought back. He never "instigated" her or started fights. And unsurprisingly, my mom eventually started abusing me as well. I hope OP sticks to his decision and protects his child.

Mari
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes he has to protect his child because she will abuse the kid. My mum was also the abuser and my dad was loving her much to divorce her. She was abusing him mentally not physicly.But we (kids) were her victims and we are suffering until this day from the trauma.

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DC and S
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6 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hormones can be a mega b*tch and super intense, but that NEVER gives anyone an excuse to be abusive. You can't control the hormones, but you DO control your words and actions.... And she's suddenly "all better" in less than 3 weeks? Pretty sure that's not how it works. Glad he has tons of evidence and that everyone around him knows the truth now too. Take it and run!

Sue User
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thats the flag for me. I lived woth someone who was mentally ill. When he had an episode it would take days to stabalise and weeks to get to normal. Now this is the extreme end but you dont get well that fast.

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LaserBrain
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6 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she did it before, she'll probably do it again, even after all the apologies. Classic abuser cycle. No one should feel like they have to walk on eggshells, that's a huge red flag.

CanadianDimes
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if she never did it again and it was a violent psychosis, she still did it. She can get help, heal, and move on to hopefully have a healthy relationship with someone who isn’t OP because he deserves to not be with someone who abused him. No matter what help she gets, she still did all of that and he was her victim. He doesn’t need to be in a position where he even worries he could be again.

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Mike F
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the "sickness and health" things that the YTA crowd is tossing around, but I wonder what their reaction would be when THEY required medical treatment for her battery? Those words are easy to say when they are not the people being clobbered with a coffee cup that requires stitches. This happened to me ONCE and I was gone. They need to climb down from their perches and walk a mile in the shoes of the OP, THEN proclaim "sickness and health" when it's their health at stake. Morons.

painttheyellowsubgreen
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Apparently they think he should wait for the "until death do we part", without taking into consideration the death she causes may not be OPs. It might be their child's. But then, the YTAs are probably the abusers in their own relationships.

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Schmebulock
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6 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Abuse is and always should be a deal breaker. Get rid of that psycho.

notlikeyou1971
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a domestic violence survivor I am going to be the 1st person to tell you it's not acceptable for her to put her hands on you.DO NOT TAKE HER BACK! Do not listen to anyone who is trying to pressure you to forgive her or take her back just because you have a child. There is no reason for you to be with someone who has been abusive just for the sake of being " a family". Stay away from her. It's possible that she will do this again. They all say that they are going to change and how sorry they are. Even if they verbally abuse, it's a sign . Remember that anyone who puts their hands on you lacks self control. Imagine if she loses her temper and takes it out on your child. With an abuser it's not a matter of IF they will do it again it's a matter of WHEN. RUN DON'T WALK AWAY FROM HER AND PROTECT YOURSELF AND THE BABY!

Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

3 weeks is barely enough time to get a doctors appointment, let alone see a therapist, a psychiatrist, get medication, fill it, and take it long enough to see any effects. What a weird thing to lie about.

Nicole
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people in the family telling this guy to give her a second chance just want her to become his problem again instead of theirs. Whatever is going on there will take extensive therapy if it could ever be fixed so there’s no way he and the baby should go back in to an unsafe environment.

FreeTheUnicorn
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That she can turn it on and off to manipulate outsiders, means she knows what she's doing, she knows it's wrong but she doesn't carr enough to actially get healthy. That type of violence and rage isnt fixed after a a few months of therapy, so its clear she's pretending again. I hope the kid and dad get far, far away. Very glad the letter will help that case.

DaisyBee
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People acting like he’s the a*****e - SHE BURNED HIM WITH HOT COFFEE AND SMASHED THE CUP OVER HIS HEAD, REQUIRING STITCHES, WHILE HE WAS TENDING TO THEIR BABY!!! Pregnancy & post partum didn’t create the monster she “became”, it just showed the monster she was all along.

Aline
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6 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do not let anyone who has become physically violent over opening a jar around your child. MAYBE after a lot of therapy and years of demonstrating it has worked, but clearly she can turn this on and off when it suits her, so this probably won't happen, as it's a choice. Not just good days and bad days but when it suits her strategically, she can control herself. And yet has chosen not to control herself at home, she's not going to choose to be kind, empathetic and generous with a young child, when her patience is tested. Don't let her near the kid. Get a restraining order asap.

Alexandra
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For all intents and purposes, the wife he knew is simply dead. He will never get back that feeling for her nor the life they lived together. His main priority should be his son and that he grows up in a stable home. A child benefits more from a stable home than from two parents, whether that stable home involves one parent, 2 parents, parents of the same sex or otherwise.

Bookworm
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Setting aside the suspicious timing of this sudden change of heart and decision to go to therapy (I agree there's some gaslighting/love bombing red flags here) - let's say purely for the sake of argument, that she was telling the truth. It was all pregnancy-related psychosis, she didn't have rational control of her actions, the therapist gives her medication and it fixes everything and she never does any of this again in her life. How is the husband going to trust her? Will he ever be able to look at her the same way? Have a normal argument without being afraid that it's happening all over again? Leave her alone with the kid? Some things don't come with takebacks, no matter how genuinely sorry you are.

Natalia
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTAs are f*****g unhinged. In sickness and in health has got nothing whatsoever to do with someone physically assaulting you.

Xenia Harley
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The person who pointed out she is now calling OP the a**hole, they are right. She has not "gotten better" and is still being abusive. Someone who is truly sorry understands how they screwed up. Do not go back, and get full custody!

Paul Rabit
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. Sorry. Once you become violently abusive to anyone - all bets are off - including whatever vows you promised in happier times.

Elvira394
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ve had 3 babies, and I can say that something similar happened to me. I never get mad, yell, insult or get assaultive. But during the first trimester every pregnancy…I…HATE…EVERYONE. I was at least able to recognize the problem most likely was my emotions and not what other people were doing, but I have to admit the only reason I never escalated to being aggressive was simply because I would literally tell people to their face “I hate everything right now and I can’t not be angry with everything, you need to get away from me”, then pretty much avoided all human contact as much as possible until the second trimester. Pregnancy really can flip some weird switches in some women’s brain. It is absolutely no excuse for abuse, and OP should leave, you can’t undo that kind of abuse, especially the violence. Just really sad though, if only she’d been willing to get help early on, it could possibly have saved her a divorce. Such a shame.

GlitterPanda
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is only seeking help because after her parents kicked her out she had nowhere to go. This isn't her actively wanting to change, it is her having no choice if she doesn't want to be homeless.

T.M.P Janssen
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously, the people saying "in sickness and health" can go f**k themselves. She could have killed him easily with that mug, emotionally and otherwise physically abused him for so long and people sit there like "bUt ThEiR MaRrIaGe!" Get your own head beaten in and come talk again. I have mental health issues too which is the reason I dont date at all, to not pull people down to my level rn or even worse. It might not be her fault to be mentally ill but its her own duty to not make it other peoples problem like THAT.

Tobias Reaper
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

all the YTA idiots if this was a man who abused a woman none of them would be saying this.

Anna Drever
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I initially wanted him to be supportive of her believing she was going through something but the more I read I just felt so bad for him. There’s no coming back from that. The abuse she literally hurled at him must have been awful.

Nimitz
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5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is it it's okay for family members to assault and attempt murder and get away with it without any real consequences? My dad would strangle us like Homer Simpson, or worse, pick us up by the throat and choke us out with our feet dangling in the air. If a man walks up to a kid on the street and does that, he's going to jail for a long, long time. But if a person does that to a spouse or child they need counselling. Pack your bags and get what justice you can because you won't get much. Hurray for her getting medication, but she ONLY chose to get help to avoid consequences and jail. The abuse will come back, eventually. That's what life has taught me. Eventually she'll hurt you again and you owe it to your kid to protect them from that.

Bookworm
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know there's a lot of talk about how men 'reveal their true selves ' when their partner is pregnant and they think she's trapped. This is the other side of it. And yes it may be changes due to pregnancy. But if being pregnant causes you to be abusive and you refuse to get help then you're choosing to be abusive. Switch the genders and everyone would be saying run and don't look back. I'm glad he's getting out and doing his best to take his son with him.

Tabitha
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s a limit to everything. “In sickness and in health” does not mean sticking around and enduring years of abuse and putting your children at risk of harm with someone who doesn’t even want to seek help (if they’re aware enough to want to get better, that’s different). It applies more to the a******s who divorce their spouses because they’re dying of cancer and don’t have the strength to have sex anymore. WTF, right? How selfish to put your genitals before the person you’re supposed to love who is facing a slow and agonizing death.

Earonn -
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's no way we would advise a sister to take him back, were the roles reversed. For me, it's the fact that she was all sweet when others were around - she knew what she did was wrong

James King
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the YTA ones because "what about in sickness and in health"? Well, that goes out the friggin' window when you have to go get stitches because your spouse smashed a cup of hot coffee over your head. Idiots.

Lupita Nyong'heaux
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the YTAs on this one have convinced me that they are fabricated by BP to foster engagement. there is no f*****g way in hell ANY rational person would say "in sickness and in health" includes domestic abuse and violence. would they be saying the same thing if it was the wife getting the s**t beat outta her on the regular? no, they wouldn't. these YTA comments are made up.

Lailu
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5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bet if it was a man beating on a woman the YTAs would tell her to leave and she would be NTA. Men get abused in relationships too.

Crouching hippo hidden panda
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTA posts are mad. In sickness and in health, does not mean you should stick around and put up with abuse. What about the respect each other part? She sounds evil and narcissistic.

Lynda Murray
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She could abuse him, then turn it round to be sweetness and light in front of other people and make out he was the bad guy? That’s calculated and in control. Gaslighting, manipulation. Divorce. Protect the child. Protect himself.

moggie63
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Yes officer, of course I killed my husband but, you know, hormones!" The YTA's are as demented as the wife.

Juanita Sullivan
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is narcissistic behavior. Very dangerous. Proceed with the divorce!

The Starsong Princess
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I think op should approach his wife with an attitude of compassion and give her an opportunity to prove that she is now well. Psychosis during pregnancy and post partum is a real thing. But I still think he should proceed with the divorce and getting custody because the trust is gone and he needs to act in his son’s best interest. He should concentrate on building a positive co parenting arrangement with her with supervised visits (swhich she will get even if he gets full custody) and look to consider revising arrangements if all goes well in a year or two.

DC and S
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where's the compassion for him and his child? Compassion isn't excusing or justifying abuse. and you do NOT get to expose your child to abuse (or to witness abuse) under the guide of compassion. Compassion here is walking away and keeping him and his kid safe. Co-parenting is not in the cards until, at the very least, she puts a lot of hard work and time in. And even then it's unlikely. Regardless of the reasons, actions DO have consequences and she will have to live with that.

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Pablo Ramos
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Her change was likely hormonal, and.it may not have been her fault at all. If you really love her, and she is committed to change and get help, not just pills, but serious counseling, it might be worth to give her another chance. After all, she would be on probation, and if she slips back into Mr. Hyde, then you can honestly say you gave it a try. But, again, only if you truly love her still and she you.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And what if during that "one slip" she injures or even kills the child? No. People who have shown that they are physically abusive shouldn't get another chance to hurt or possibly even maim or kill their victims.

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Doodles1983
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From the comments, there is a serious lack of understanding about what pregnancy and being postpartum can do to a woman. Not only is it hormonal and messing with your endocrine system and immune systems, it causes physical changes in and to the brain. He has known her for 8 years. Say, 6 before all the pregnancy - related stuff occurred. If she was capable of it without pregnancy, there is a high likelihood it would have happened. But it hadn't. Which says pregnancy and post, were major factors. I honestly am torn. But, I think he should think seriously before proceeding. At the very least meet and speak to her in person, leaving the baby with someone her trusts. Maybe in a therapists office. Then decide on progress from there. Either give it a few months of therapy, then a date. Or divorce and full-custody. Consider supervised visitation. Safety of baby first. But my gut says this was all driven by her body. Not her.

Papa
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The part about how when her parents visited she was back to her old self, but then was abusive again as soon as they left makes me wonder if pregnancy hormones were really to blame.

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