Like so many of society's biases, lookism — the discriminatory treatment of people who are considered physically unattractive — is something we're all aware of (at least subconsciously), whether we've been directly affected by it or not. However, it's one of those difficult topics that we often steer our conversations away from. Especially if we're the ones who are benefiting from it.
So, in an attempt to reignite this age-old discussion, Redditor u/ZeuslovesHer asked other users: "Is 'pretty privilege' real and what is your experience with it?" And unfortunately, many had stories to share. Here are some of the most memorable ones.
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Yep. When I was in highschool I was not attractive, so my personality was seen negatively because I'm "weird". I had a bit of a glow up the summer after graduating and now I'm "quirky", "interesting", and "passionate".
Honestly I enjoyed being the weird girl and being left alone than growing into the “pixie dream girl” and getting the attention of mopey guys with nothing in common with me convinced I was everything they were looking for.
Reminds me of the man who went from being poor to being rich. Someone asked him if his money had changed him. He replied, "Yes, I guess it has. Now I'm eccentric when I used to be weird. And now I'm delightfully witty when I used to be rude."
After I was diagnosed and word got around my home town the most common response from people when they found out was 'Aye, well that makes sense now' and 'Well at least he's strange for a reason'. I certainly wasn't considered "Quirky" or "interesting", I was still 'weird'.
I was tall which put most guys off. I'm 5ft9 since 14. I had a doctor tell me if I grew any taller I'd be too tall and would be on my own. So I starved myself for years and nobody knew. I went to an all-girl school and was made fun of for my height and my nickname was "lanky". I spent my years alone. I left early. I got so much sexual harassment too during that time. I've got kids now who are also tall and I'd never inflict that on them.
You were all of those things, you just didn't realize it until you were done school and realized the beauty hierarchy doesn't exist.
u/ZeuslovesHer said they came up with the idea for the post while scrolling through social media. "I saw people on Instagram talking about and being angry at someone beautiful, saying they get everything easy in life because they look good," the Redditor told Bored Panda.
After going through the comments, u/ZeuslovesHer learned that "pretty privilege happens everywhere, in all aspects of life, including the workplace and casual social interaction."
"[If you're at its receiving end], I think it can be useful in any circumstance. To get people to be more bendable to your needs, to help you more, to be more friendly, more understanding, more empathetic, etc."
Big time it is. I was a very unattractive teenager and the world felt like a very harsh place. Some people are openly rude to you if they don’t find you good looking. As I did grow into my looks and became reasonably good looking, not heading down the catwalk or anything but nice enough, boy did the world open up. People (mostly men) became so much nicer to me and just much more accommodating. Pretty privilege is very very real, having been on both sides.
I grew up ugly and still am, I don’t get breaks on tickets or discounts, in fact my ugliness has been the catalyst for all types of abuses, denials, dismissals etc. The bonus is that the prejudicial behavior I am experiencing is not on me.
I'm not at all surprised at this type of reprehensible behavior. I'm now at the stage where I'm old enough to no longer be considered attractive. I've noticed that people simply ignore me now. But I'm old enough to not care and to know that I'm still a valid person.
Load More Replies...Opposite case here. I was an attractive teenager, taller and more developed physically than my colleagues. This led to catcalling and harrasing from boys at highschool, and from males on the street. Girls were envious and would exclude me from their group, because I'd make them look "like pre-schoolers". Even a teacher made some humiliating comments on my body once. I hated them, I hated my body (especially my big breasts) and I had suicidal thoughts several times. I would wear only large, black shirts and didn't go out much. It took years and a lot of therapy to accept myself, to gain confidence and to understand there was nothing wrong with me. As I came to peace with myself and with the world, my life changed so much for the better. But sometimes I wish I had someone to advise me during that dark period.
That is so true. It's ridiculous to the point that if 2 people will tell the same unfunny joke, the attractive one will get some laughs anyway.
never been in a relationship in my life. But interestingly, being ugly recently seems to make people 'quirky'. I'm not ugly, I'm plain. meaning that I fly under the radar. Ugly and pretty people are admired either for confidence or appearance, but i'm just not acknowledged. #plainpeopleexisttoo
I had a similar experience. I wasn't particularly ugly as a teenager, but did not make any effort to shine or just look nice (super low self-esteem). Older guys at school used to make fun of me which hit my self steem even more. Many many years after + therapy I became much more confident and felt/looked amazing. Same guys came to me to introduce themselves and talk to me. They did not recognize me. Of course I politely told them to bugger off.
High school is rough. I hope that the men were kind to you because they had matured not just because you had matured
This gives me anxiety cuz like how many people are being nice to me because I'm not ugly.
According to scientists, those who meet universal beauty standards often experience social advantages and better treatment by those who perceive them as attractive. These unearned benefits are often described by researchers as "beauty premium," but the meaning is the same as that of "pretty privilege."
One study that decomposed the beauty premium in an experimental labor market, for example, identified that physically attractive workers are more confident, are (wrongly) considered more able by employers, and have various 'additional' skills (such as communication and social skills) that result in higher wages.
Essentially, unattractive people experience significant disadvantages in comparison to attractive people. In fact, some describe these disparities as comparable to the income gap between genders or ethnicities.
Very real. Nightlife (bartending, etc) is good money, and they don’t hire people who are not at the very least conventionally attractive. I’ve been tipped generously many times simply because customers thought I was pretty. Mostly by gay men and straight women.
I have never been given money based on my looks, because I don’t have good looks, never have, never will. The good part about this, when someone does tip me or compliments me, I know it’s because I did an amazing job
I'm sure you're doing your job amazingly. But sometimes people do this for more selfish reasons, trying to look good because "look, they were kind to this 'outcast'". But then, again, there's many many truly and genuinely kind and sincere people out there as well.
Load More Replies...Yep, I’ve worked at a fair few bars and nightclubs- the attractive people work behind the bar, the unattractive ones collect glasses and barback
I don't know, my mate has always been a cocktail bartender type guy and he does well and he's ugly mate, but he is funny and has a loud outgoing personality.
All my plain friends out there, just remember: You're safer out there being unattractive, people rarely s*xually ass*ult people who aren't pretty (rarely but not never. stay safe out there my friends) (also i'm not saying this to blame pretty people who get r*ped, nobody should have to go through that. it sucks that things are this way but they are.)
Hmm, how do you know it was because of your looks? I mean, did someone actually SAY, "Here's $10 because you're pretty"? I don't hang out in bars so I don't know the culture, but that seems pretty weird.
And she has the intuition to know for certain that these people are gay men or straight women. They must have been wearing a sign.
Load More Replies...However, even if we acknowledge the existence of pretty privilege, is it something we can eradicate? u/ZeuslovesHer doesn't think so. "Unfortunately, I believe it's in our DNA to assess someone from the first moment we lay our eyes on them. It's probably just our genes telling us this is someone I'd be good to reproduce with, or someone I'd be good to be friends with, because their beauty might add some [social] benefits to my life."
"I'm sure a lot of it is subconscious. I don’t think this will change anytime soon, but I do think people are pretending to not care about looks, to be body-positive, etc. even though it's probably not how they actually feel."
120% real. I have a sister who is conventionally attractive. Whenever we go to an open bar event, she's the designated drink getter, since the barmen will trip over themselves and/or each other to give her drinks, while ignoring the rest of us ugly plebs.
Thanks for pointing out there are mean comments, I am gonna check them out. /sarcasm.
Load More Replies...Boom... there it is and we all know it xxx maybe the best solution is to make it work FOR you xx
Actually, they are invisible... all ugly people are. We as a society just don't value people for who they are but for how they look. So it's a bit more than simply not having a privilege... you go straight to the other extreme.
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"First of all, everyone underestimates me when they meet me. They immediately think I'm stupid or that I never bothered with my education because I got things easy in life," they said. "That is not true, I worked hard, I paid for college myself, working different jobs and I graduated top of my class. A lot of people I met instantly resent me, especially girls, it's almost like they feel threatened or something, even though they have absolutely no reason for it."
"And then there is the really dark part of it, which is all the sexual harassment I had to endure, sexual assault attempts from men, since I was a teenager."
I guess, this proves there are two sides to every story.
Very attractive, or formerly very attractive, people are used to being listened to and will go on and on about anything. Also, I’ve worked at several universities and the better the school, the more attractive the student body. I assume this is because attractive people get extra attention and help from an early age. They expect and are expected to succeed early on.
This is very interesting. I noticed that when I did my nursing degree. Our class looked like a bunch of models, every single person was attractive. It was also at a private college that cost big bucks. Later on when I was lecturing at a public university, it was a slightly different story.
Wealthy kids get orthodontists, healthy diets, and a lot of skin care, etc, etc. Same genes, different upbringing.
Load More Replies...When Iwas in grad school, most looked nerdy. When I was part of an academics honors group as an undergrad, it was mostly the same.
There is a difference between "affordable" STEM schools and "high class" rich schools eg law or medicine. STEM students would be usually low or middle class, you know, average, whereas expensive schools will have students which are a results of generations of selective (hansome men chosing beautiful women as wives) rich pretty genes.
Load More Replies...Growing up I always became the center of attention, people take me very seriously, even though my real-self is goofy as hell, I mean.. I don't even take me seriously. They said "Pretty girl need to act pretty", people even notice even the smallest mistakes that I make, I hate that if other girls makes the same mistake it wouldn't be as obvious. Honestly its suffocating.
Bingo. You hit the nail on the head. Everybody's attracted to beautiful things or persons, and we see that in their eyes. If we don't get this positive attention or look of appreciation or even the faintest smile/acknowledgment, we don't feel validated or valued, and we think we are not worth much. I realized this after 30 years of self-hate.
Rich men often marry attractive women (not saying women are gold diggers but women are less visual then men) and those attractive genes seem to carry on the genes. Other than his hairline Prince William is a fine example
Yes. Was once obese and am now pretty good looking. The difference is night and day
Just because a person is fat doesn’t automatically mean that they are ugly. People of all shapes and weights can be ‘good looking’. The idea of beauty changes, as seen in history, even recent history.
I went the other way. Was thin and conventionally attractive. Now overweight and same blond hair, green eyes and nice smile. I am invisible now.
Load More Replies...Yup, been on both sides of this coin. Used to be a Women's size 22 and now I'm a size 6. And when I was a whale I was beautiful, now that I'm thin, I have so many medical issues, one one which is a very rare skin disease.
Weight attractiveness vs just being ugly and not having a way to improve on ones looks. Food for thought (no calories)
The fat person knows she/he is as beautiful and as worthy as the twiggy one, but soon enough the fat person get so viciously treated, that they think they're as ugly as twiggy people tell them they are. And it's a constant barrage of ugly words and uglier treatments that makes the fat person feel as if they're not allowed to exist.
Yes. After losing a little bit of weight everyone started treating me better in general. It made me kinda mad tbh because I've never been rude to anyone just for being physically unattractive.
Note: this does only work if you have a nice face. I lost a ton of weight but I'm still unattractive and people treat me as such.
Depends on the age of the person. I'm middle-aged and people didn't start treating me better. That's because society is ageist as well. The older you get, the more invisible you are.
I used to be super morbidly obese and the more weight I lose the nicer people are to me, it makes me sick.
This happened to me, and it led to me developing an eating disorder because losing weight was basically the only way to get positive attention from my parents. And when I lost weight, people hit on me and harassed me more, so I gained the weight back to make it stop, then my parents got upset at me for gaining the weight back, so I lost the weight again, and the cycle still continues.
So true! I've lost half my body weight and I get treated ALOT better now, men fall over themselves trying to help me.
When I lost a ton of weight and became gorgeous after being chubby for years, my female friends would try to sabotage me. My own mother and brother treated me like I was anorexic even though I ate normal healthy food. The gaslighted me for months. I had never felt more alone. I ended up gaining the weight back and became even more miserable just so they would leave me alone.
People who are rude to unattractive people have a special place in hell. One's attractiveness, or lack thereof, should have NOTHING to do with common courtesy and good manners.
my weight has gone up and down my whole life. it's like going from attractive to invisible and back again. I am 60 and invisible at 35-40 lbs overweight...not sure if getting thin would make me attractive again but I'm trying. I want my husband to find me attractive at any rate. I am lucky I don't have a fat face. Even when I am heavier, my face is somewhat thin and I'm 5'7", both of which help me look a bit less chunky. It's better if people keep their eyes on my face and not my body. lol
Yes, overweight is a big factor for being found not so attractive. Comes even before ugliness. Experienced this my whole life, I am 61 now.
I was born with a facial deformity and have since had multiple (10+) procedures to fix it. Growing up, people would literally stare at me, walk to the other side of the street, openly laugh, etc. At 12, I was at the mall with a friend when one of those childhood modeling services ran over and started praising my friend, looked at me, then went "but you're both beautiful in your own ways."
Now 21, apparently I've had enough work done that people are able to look at me because everyone is nicer, takes me seriously, and I get free drinks when I go out.
Yep. People definitely treat you differently when they think you're attractive.
I have very little sympathy towards modelling scouts targeting 12 year olds, but I still find it somewhat endearing that he made the effort to say they both look beautifull in their own way.
Oh how innocent you are... he didn't wanna deal with a pissed off parent later after op told them.
Load More Replies...I never get free drinks. I also never get hit on. It's kinda depressing.
The problem is when the outer doesn’t attract others to you they never get to know the inner.
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Yes. I'm ugly, and when I worked alongside more beautiful women it was obvious how much better they were treated.
This pisses me off if I saw that happen I would wanna slap somebody so bad.
At this one place of employment we had.to ask people to sign up for a store credit card and could not go back to our commission based job until we got 2 sign ups. Some people were there for hours, losing money, but the pretty girls were there for a minute. It was brought up but nothingbwas ever done about it.
Being attractive sometimes may be a curse, especially if you are shy. I remember when I was a waitress for the first time in my life, I just moved from my home country and wasn't very confident. Before that I thought I was okay looking but nothing special. It appeared I was more attractive that I thought and my male co-workers fancied me what led to annoying and sometimes gross attention that I was getting. I found out just few weeks before I left that they made a bet who will f**k me first. Also my female boss hated me with no obvious reason. I was doing my job the best I could. I had short bob back then and she always insisted I needed to do something to get hair off my face (ok I get that-restaurant, food safety- ok) but 2 clips and hair behind my ears wasn't enough! I don't know what she wanted me to do but that was a everyday drama even other girls could have their hair as they wanted.
Kind of reminds me of a girl at my work. One girl used to be the popular one because she was somewhat attractive and easy. Then an absolutely gorgeous girl started working there. She did a great job but was absolutely destroyed by all the hostility from the 'former queen' so she quit :(
Load More Replies...It does depend on what *kind* of pretty people decide you are. Some women are treated like goddesses, and some are treated like their consent doesn't matter.
Load More Replies...I felt the same way about intelligence. In my country town I was super intelligent, in the city I was just average. Never ever felt attractive.
On the flip side, I've encountered many women who do not like me simply because I am not overweight, ( I have an eating disorder ), and I have been told that I am very pretty - all my life. It is very uncomfortable. Being treated better isn't always what you think. I've been hit on by every single manager I have had. Random men yell at me to sit on their face or make them a "sammich." And women snub me. It's depressing.
This is pretty much my entire life... it's infuriating enough when the equally-skilled pretty-person gets the raise/promotion/bonus due to their looks... it's hopelessly demeaning when you see them promoted to be your boss/manager... or you're compared TO THEM, with them being held up as bastions of 'incredible!' when they're inept and outright lazy - and you KNOW because you've been bullied by them into doing their work for them. Oh yes, and cue the punishment if you, the person who DARED to not have genetic-win points out ANY of this...
It is real. I’m a good looking man that works in a technical field. I am very competent and certainly don’t get overlooked for it. I know plenty of people who are less attractive who do.
That could be both attractiveness or/and personality. If you are attractive with open personality the world is basically yours. If you are ugly and shy you are f***ed
Nope, it's because he's someone who looks a certain way.
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I knew a girl who was a hostess at an 'upscale' restaurant. Her manager told her if any girls come in with a resume for a job, if they are unattractive/overweight to mark '110' on the top right of the paper. If you draw a diagonal line between the two ones, you are spelling out 'NO.
I wouldn't call myself attractive, just average. Always attended a job interview well dressed, clean, smart shoes, makeup and hair done to the best of my ability, walked in with confidence. Never had a problem getting a job. Most times, it's your manner and how you act and present yourself. I've seen some pretty untidy people at interviews with bolshie attitudes that won't have a chance.
Me drawing a diagonal line between the two 1's: l / l 0 'That's not an 'N'?!?!'
I know a girl that was completely terrible at her job but the boss loved her. Kept getting promotions, bonuses, raises, and things like that when raises were frozen for everyone else. She ended up leaving her company to work at a more prestigious company...
Screw “stronger, healthier you,” those gym motivational posters should say “you could get a promotion without any extra work.” I’d run so much harder.
I feel for the woman though too. Frequently, when that happens in a workplace, the underling is subjected to a lot of animosity from coworkers and sexual harassment from supervisors. They often didn't ask for the special treatment.
A Real Estate Office I used to go in to (to pay rent) had a admin person on Reception over lunch break. Attractive, young and who had, literally, a micro mini skirt and super low cut blouse on. Ample bosom on display bouncing and giggling while chatting to a male tennant who was also in to pay rent. She barely gave me a glance. Another male walked in after me and was also waiting. After giggling goodbye to the first guy, she smiled at the second guy and said "And how can I help YOU today?" I lost it at this point and said "I realise I don't have a d@*k Honey but I was here first and would like to pay my rent before you cleavage falls out your shirt." Now don't get me wrong, a woman is free to choose what she wears and when, she was attractive, sure, but come on I just thought it was really awful.
I worked with one of those. She was visibly confused when I didn't do her work for her.
She didn’t work at the more prestigious company for long. You don’t get to be prestigious by promoting on appearance
Without trying to brag I’m a decently attractive girl. I have a bit of a natural prettiness to me BUT I’m also really good at doing my make up, hair, clothes. I work out a lot too so I’m in shape. These are arguably more important than natural beauty.
Yes there’s a privilege when you’re attractive. Guys will do stuff for me, trip over themselves when I ask for help, buy me drinks etc. Is it worth all the sexual advances and harassment? Sometimes. I get catcalled a lot, people think I’m a dumb pretty girl, other women get really catty if I say anything to their boyfriend/husband. I get a lot of overly sexual messages.
What’s really funny is all the privilege goes away when I’m out with my 3 kids. It goes from a bunch dudes going out of their way to help to the opposite. Although I still get catcalled when I’m with my kids, a little too much.
It's true, nothing kills desire like having small children! You'd think nature wanted to build an anti-overpopulation device into us, but it isn't working...
For me it was getting pregnant. Nothing like having a door slam in your face 8 months pregnant because you suddenly have disappeared from people's notice. I used to think people (men and women) were generally nice and kind. I was never treated as rudely and dismissed than when I was pregnant. Unbelievable.
Load More Replies...When I was young, unmarried and childless, I always got great reviews at work. When I got married, had kids and put on a few pounds, I was constantly getting written up & fired. My performance was still great (I am my own worst critic), but I then I noticed young, thin & childless women who weren't doing half of my work and goofing off on the job getting great reviews. There's no turning back the clock, but it's hard to accept that I'll always be judged unfairly, regardless of my actual performance.
But how about not further spreading the misconception of only good looking women getting harrassed? Instead of "just" getting catcalled, f.e. fat women may have derogatory stuff called at them... or ugly women may be the butt of a joke have guys fake flirting with them. (And by the way: 80year olds have been raped by young guys and some men are willing to pay crack whores - you really think they won´t sexually advance - or rather assault someone uglier? So please stop insinuating you could trade your beauty for not getting harrassed anymore....
I'm acceptable looking without makeup, but I can look killer with the right look in clothes and makeup. The difference in how people treat me is both hilarious and infuriating. If people don't like me without makeup, they sure as s**t don't deserve me with it.
Kids are a hard no for me. Doesn't matter how hot the guy is, what he drives, what his education is, what he does or a living, what his tax returns look like, is totally in love with me, loves doggos and kittehs. If he has kids? Buh bye.
I work in retail and just because your pretty doesn't mean you get privilege.
Absolutely, the summer before my junior year I lost a ton of weight and when everyone saw me, I was 40 lb lighter than the previous year. I started getting more friends, teachers started talking to me more, girls were starting to notice me, etc. Now this could all be because I finally had my confidence up but it’s hard to tell.
The summer before my senior year I really dialed in and got into really great shape and that’s when I noticed a huge change. I was getting asked out by girls every other week until I finally got what would be my first long term relationship. Then I joined the Navy, gained maybe 20 lb in A school, and boom it was back to square one, no longer the guy everyone always wanted to be around.
Part of that can most likely be attributed to self-esteem. When you don't feel your best (physically, mentally), you're not going to innately be as outgoing and happy go lucky as when you do. Like attracts like, meaning when you are outgoing and more social, you attract like minded people and are more prone to drawing people to you.
seems like a feedback loop that can either go positively or negatively
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As a trans woman I gotta say that it is real. Depressingly so.
My experiences have been that even if people know I’m trans they are generally pretty nice to me in real life.
You can totally see this in how society views what is a “successful” transition. The trans women who are deemed to somehow always represent what it means to be trans are almost always not just Cis passing but totally conventionally attractive.
The trans women who don’t fit neatly into those categories get stereotyped as “failures”.
Yeah, the fact that people call trans people "failures" because they don't look like attractive cis men or women is so weird. As if all cis men and women look like perfect men and women :(
Unattractive trans people (especially trans women) really do get some of the worst of it.
I always make sure if I see I trans woman who is obviously trans, I am always very very nice to them. I overcompensate for the transphobes nastiness. Plus I always compliment on some aspect of clothes, hair, makeup, etc, just like women do with each other so they feel like they belong
Yup. Even passing trans people treat non-passing trans people as failures. Because if you were really trans, you'd MAKE yourself pass. And because trans people who pass get to blend in, they get to keep quiet on subjects like the Bathroom Bill. Because it doesn't affect them, it affects the newly transitioning or non-passing.
God forbid you be considered lovely as you are. I have always been pan/inclusive; one of my first girlfriends became my boyfriend about five months into the relationship, and the difference in how people treated her and how they treated him were night and day. I ended up getting a reputation for being a bitch because I wouldn't tolerate people knocking him down for owning who he truly is. Your personality is what you should be loved for; the plumbing is incidental at best, to me.
And the idea of 'passing' is incredibly offensive. You will always pass as a human being; the people who judge you based on cis standards of attractiveness are the ones who DON'T pass as human.
that's so f*****g sad. But relatable. I'm nonbinary and wonder if I'll ever pass...
You already did - and do. As far as I'm aware there isn't a test for being a human being so there's nothing for you TO pass in the first place. The mere fact you exist and are genetically a homo sapien and not like, a banana, means you pass. And to be brutually honest, f**k whoever came up with the whole "pass" thing in the first place. It's done nothing but segregate people and cause harm and doesn't warrant any sort of consideration whatsoever. And I know that's all easier said than done, and easy for me to say as a cis male - it's just my personal opinion is all.
Load More Replies...What could be the reason? People dont think women that look like men and vice versa is pretty? That's preposterous! Look.. people are assholes, that's just how it is.
I mean that's just personal taste. I like androgyny.
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It's really f***ing hard to do any successful therapy because of pretty privilege, let me tell you. I have BPD and because of it, I have done and said some pretty f***ed up stuff. What is the response? Nothing that serious because look at me, I'm a cute and young-looking woman. I had one tell me, while I was having a breakdown because I've only ever been seen as "the pretty one" in my family: "I'm struggling to not tell you you're pretty, you're so beautiful!" I think she meant well, but not the time.
This should be way higher. This is for once a real struggle that could easily become a life/death situation just coz someone could not look deep enough?
Who did this where are the stupid therapists I will find them and slap
Having been told by family members "if only you were pretty like your sisters!" at a young age, it's so frustrating that family will let that interfere with your relationship with them. That's why I believe chosen families matter just as much as blood relations.
Among cultures where I fit into that societies idea of beauty, people just give me stuff for no reason or give me passes if I have flubbed some requirement. Upgrades on flights, meals paid for, etc.
In areas where my look is not considered beautiful (Miami, Florida lol) I have literally been denied entry into a club. It really sucked. But hey
If you didn't piece it together, I have deep dark brown skin and stereotypically West African features. I was bullied pretty relentlessly throughout childhood, but that never really stopped me from liking my look. I did have pretty low self-esteem though.
When you are among people that think you are attractive, you are allowed to just live. If not, you find yourself being screwed with and denied access just because. I'm sure there is some element of this in many countries, but due to an especially narrow definition of beauty in the United States, it seems more pronounced.
BTW, there have been studies done on this.
I’m a medium ish black girl (kinda the default black) but also west African. Same, girl, same.
My aunties lift me up and call me pretty all the time, but I live in FL too and boy is it like night and day,
Load More Replies...I would like to apologise on behalf of all decent white people. You're just as beautiful with dark skin, possibly even more so. Have a nice day <3
My attractive coworker and I were stopped on the same day, by the same trooper, for speeding. I'm a fugly dude, she's a 10/10 knockout. I was doing 81 mph in a 70 zone and got a ticket. She was doing 86 mph in a 70 zone and the trooper gave her a warning.
I know there are many police officers who will pull over pretty women while the are on traffic patrol just to get their contact information.
I have found sexual harassment and dismissal balances out pretty privilege. I got a job once because the interviewer liked me and it was the most awkward thing, knowing your skills and everything but your appearance is overlooked. Something so fleeting, it’s scary actually. Makes you feel hella conditionally loved
Whoa. I never thought of that - that must SÚCK! Because yes, yes indeed; very conditionally loved. Damn. Not nice, and no fun.
Load More Replies...a) OP was probably caught more than once ; b) she knows how to talk herself out of situations. My coworker (male) does that all the time. Mayybe attractiveness gives a boost of confidence to slightly flirt
Oh, I don’t know. Why not ask every POS who became instafamous for taking a good mugshot. Sure he shot up a theater, but he’s so handsome! Yeah he’s a rapist but look at those cheekbones! He needs a modeling contract ASAP!
I mean, SURE he constantly terrorizes only one city and murdered hundreds, but that SMILE!
Who shot up a theater and became famous because of his looks? Aside from John Wilkes Booth, I'm at a loss.
I invest a lot of time and money into my physical appearance for this reason. It sounds easy to say that you don’t need makeup to be beautiful and caring too much about how you look is vain, but when you’ve lived part of your life ugly and part of your life pretty you really do see plainly the benefits in all areas of life. If nothing else, you gain a lot of self confidence and that translates to everything including career ambition.
Especially for people who lack in other areas of privilege, you hang on to this one.
I give mega props to people that take time to do make-up. I only have enough motivation to put on eyeliner when going to work or special event. I prefer sleep.
I'm a guy and have only worn eyeliner once for a halloween costume (Zoolander, derelict scene). It was awful and irritated the hell out of my eyes. Props to anyone who can put up with that regularly! The costume was great though and got a lot of compliments, so I can see where the motivation comes from.
Load More Replies...This is so relatable. I'm considered "pretty" but customers only treat me like an adult if I wear makeup. Then I have to put up with "jokey" marriage proposals and comments like "I'm glad they hired someone pretty!" Thanks bro... way to breed resentment in my coworkers.
Since I used to be fat and slimmed down I know what it's like to be ugly and what it's like to be seen as somewhat handsome.
It's definitely real.
Omg I was thinking the same thing recently – that since i gained weight again, at least i don't have to deal with creepy men hitting on me and harassing me, everyone just ignores me. Some of the attention i for from men when i was thin and pretty was absolutely disgusting. Married men, men from my church, men old enough to be my grandfather. It was sickening.
Load More Replies...I work with a girl who when she was hired she was overweight and gorgeous. After she lost weight she became pretty ugly.
Pretty privilege is real, think Mean Girls where Cady was pretty much got handed over the top seats in the Girl World Pyramid seeing that she was a 'regulation hottie'. But I feel that even if you aren't born physically attractive, having a friendly face can make up for it. And it's much easier to attain, especially as you get older. Smiling and being nice shows on your face, and it does get people some perks!
I agree. I'm overweight but have a kind face (even when I try not to) and it has helped. It also hinders by people thinking they can take advantage cause I look nice and won't defend myself (boy are they wrong lol).
I have a resting bitch face. When I actively try to look friendly I get treated better. But it is quite exhausting to control the micro muscles of my face all the time
internal dialogue: "ok, time to put on a happy face, but not smile so much you look like a psychopath". Finding that balance is tricky sometimes.
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So there was this girl who used to be in my school. She looks absolutely perfect. Thing is, she shares birthdays with me so on my birthday, all the attention would be on her. Thing is , according to my friend who was classmates with her, she's a total douche so ik this isn't a personality thing
When I used to live in LA, people often thought I was a model/actress and I typically found it to be a super fun, friendly city. I was in LA visiting family while pregnant and got acne for the first time since I was 14. People were so much less friendly, then got more friendly again only once my bump was clear. It was like all the nice people in LA reappeared.
Disgusting. i know a lot of times they're blissfully unaware and it's not their fault but it makes me mad that pretty people think the world is a lot nicer than it really is.
Makes me think of the show Hot in Cleveland. I am average looking where I live but in LA i would probably be a 3
Go on LinkedIn and look at any big companies' sales team/account managers...that's all you need to know.
One word: Tinder.
META, formerly FB, Tinder, snapchat, & all the others where people compare themselves to each other by looks, likes, & followers. This is the danger of social media to kids of all ages who are bullied & ridiculed into suicide. A lack of self-esteem based on comparisons to others is a red flag for depression & possible self harm & it's not always possible for others to see it happening to someone they know, partially because they're so self involved to notice or parents who just don't see the signs & the child doesn't talk about it. This is why the hypocrisy of discussions about mental illness are so enraging. It's all talk & will always have a stigma attached which obviously prevents those needing help to seek it. Then, when suicide is the result, no one can believe it & ask why. Or, they are prescribed anti-depressants which can be helpful but avoid the underlying causes.
Wtf alternate universe did you trip out of? Wrong post or something? If not.. wow...
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I mean I accidentally hit an older guy with a door at the gas station the other day as I was leaving. I immediately started profusely apologizing, and when he turned around and saw me he immediately changed his face and said it was okay and not to worry. I noticed his Bucs hat so we chatted about football, told him to enjoy his beer and avoid any more doors to the heel and I apologized again, then we went on our way.
I know for a fact had I not been a (that day presentable lmao) female, he was definitely ready to go off. So... sometimes it helps to have these big ol blue eyes hahaha.
I hate that feeling though, I’d rather not have the privilege than be shown man’s true shallow colours over and over again.
I generally know that strangers will say yes to me or help me with stuff if I ask nice with a smile. I'm pretty confident in being able to 'cute' my way out of trouble, including with authority/security/cops.
Sort of sounds like that thing from the Percy Jackson books- Charmspeak? Uh... sorry if no one has any idea what I'm talking about. ;-;
Definitely sounds like Charmspeak, yeah. Maybe that's just it...MAYBE ALL PRETTY PEOPLE ARE JUST THE DEMIGOD CHILDREN OF APHRODITE!!!!
Load More Replies...It's actually been proven. Attractive people are more successful in life because of it (e.i they're seen as more competent with no evidence showing that they are when compared to their less attractive counterparts and so on). I would offer some examples but it would all be anecdotal and if we Google it there's several links to more scientific backed ones. I would link some but I'm on mobile atm.
I worked for a staffing agency, the manager raged at us one day because we hadn’t found a position for a girl because she was attractive so it should have been easy to place her anywhere
I would love to see a "blind" system, where you got evaluated without being seen, even to the point that no one knows your gender. Then, and only then, would you get your fair and just treatment. I bet the fugleys would rule the world.
I've never seen an ugly waitress. I often have conversations with friends while eating out along the lines of "where do they find these women? Everyone in town except the waiting staff is ugly."
Anyone bringing me food is gorgeous. I don't care if they are fat or slim, short or tall, old or young, the very fact that they're bringing me food makes them gorgeous!
also mostly female, the only male waiters i remember worked for family businesses
Maybe at Hooters or any other Chain. Any reputable restaurant will not do that. They hire the best servers who have tons of experience and will make their establishment flourish. People want servers who are knowledgeable, capable and efficient. From my experience in that industry.
Yep, saw it with my own eyes back in school, I was in line for ice cream with a pretty senior in front of me and the ice cream vendor was like "You don't need to pay it's free for you."
Then it was my turn and was like, "Oh, she's the only one who'll get a free ice cream, cool." Then proceeded to pay for mine.
I wouldn't even consider myself particularly pretty, but I have a soft face, big eyes, and I'm the only person on my work team of 20 people that's under the age of 40 and female. I try to stay out of the way and be as low profile as possible, but the supervisors definitely come down on me more leniently than the others.
It sure is. I'd consider myself average looking but if I'm out with my more attractive friends or my girflriend (I scored above my league), waiters / waitresses often straight up ignore me up until they reach the point where they have to take my order and, even at that point, rarely make eye contact with me. My girlfriend use to think I was exaggerating until I started pointing it out to her. It used to be even worse when I was 60 lbs heavier.
Yes. The one ugly/overweight kid or grownup in the group. It's such a stereotype. Also overweight often is related with dumbness.
Yes. You get more matches on tinder, you’re more approachable, you have easier access making friends albeit they can be superficial friendships but friendships nevertheless. You are more likely to be recruited by model scouts, agents for the entertainment industry, it’s a lot.
Yep! People are polite and friendly and you get treated better in public. It’s sad but it happens
Some people get things in life easier than others because of their looks. It's luck if the draw. The only thing wrong with that, is the jealous guy that feels cheated. He's wrong. Why not be happy for the beautiful people. We don't get angry at a person because he won the lottery. Somebody has to be Clooney. It's not right to view a person negatively for being "ugly". Same is true for the pretty ones. Also, just because some things come easier because of their looks doesn't mean they don't have to struggle or feel pain in other aspects of their lives just as much as anyone else. I'm sure Sco-Jo has seen plenty of heartache. Maybe I should comfort her.
Is someone wrong to feel cheated though? Just because your genes dont hit the majority’s likings are you deserved to be treated as lesser being? I believe not. We all should first try to accept ourselves for how and who we are and next let people be people for who they are not how they look. I find my wife to be the most beautiful being there is, though seen as a whole, inside, outside, personality, intellect, soul, whatever else. Now if I think she would have an accident, and became scarred, or less intellectual, or even only age altering her, would I love her any less? I believe not. Unconditional love means unconditional, doesnt it?
So, you're saying the person who gets "benched" because they aren't as attractive as you, should be happy for all the players on the field while they themselves always sit out and watch? Would you be happy for others, always sitting out? It isn't fair and feels terrible to be constantly overlooked.
It works the same being disabled. Before I was a wheelchair user I was spoken to like I was intelligent and people assumed I had a degree and a good job (I did I was a teacher). Then now I'm in a wheelchair people will often ignore me and ask who ever I'm with things like "do they need a drink!" pointing at me and if they speak to me they do so in a slow and patronising way like I'm thick as two short planks. When I cut them off and explain that it's my legs that don't work not my brain, they act shocked and only sometimes embarrassed. One time I was in the supermarket alone early in the morning looking for something, this old lady comes up to me and goes (slowly like I'm thick) "have you lost your carer?" I was so shocked and annoyed that people assume I should have a minder with me, she was then shocked when I replied "no ive the hair spray aisle and I'm in a rush to drive to work" The lady had the audacity to reply "you're allowed out on your own, can drive and work?!" I was fuming!
Good looking people are treated better and perceived to be more competent by everyone, studies have shown. It affects men, women and children, even babies. It's a deeply rooted, unconscious bias ingrained in humans apparently. And it's very hard to overcome consciously.
I've seen studies suggesting that being attracted to good looking people is a evolutionary advantage. Symmetrical features, good skin and hair, good body shape, attention to grooming, etc., indicate health, skillfulness at obtaining resources, self-awareness, and other traits desirable in a good mate. Although in modern times, too many people go overboard with some of those traits and become narcissistic a-holes.
Load More Replies...Why stop at humans? At my shelter, only the cutest, prettiest cats would get adopted. I was even offered "beauty advice" for those "ugly ones" by a groomer. I resolved to never allow anyone who chooses an animal based on its looks to adopt from my shelter, and now I have specific questions to weed these people out.
I was going through connecting flights, the last being Hong Kong. Tired and Jetlag, I was wearing joggers, went into the Dior shop. The lady assistant immediately came towards me and told me rudely to get out, that I didn't have money to afford anything in the store and that it wasn't the place for me. I was stunned. Several days later I returned coming from a meeting and was well dressed. She recognized me, offered me a seat and welcomed me in with the most pretentious, sinister wide smile I ever saw, asking if I'd like champagne. At which point I was thoroughly disgusted and took myself elsewhere. Way of the world. I do notice people go out of their way when I'm dressed well, and terribly if not. I got offered high paying jobs with zero experience, just because.
Same here. Went to shop in a very posh dept store dressing like I normally do. Middle class. I did not exist. Thought I would test this theory out. Went back dressed well to do. Attention from sales people? No problem. Never went back there.
Load More Replies...I was not a pretty child but I grew into a beautiful teen and young adult. For 10+ years I did modelling for catalogues and local shows, some acting too. It felt great to have people look at me and smile, stop me in the street to compliment my hair or skin. Sometimes I'd get discounts or free things just because I was "a beautiful girl". Then I started having a lot of problems with my Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome; gained weight, grew out of control facial hair, got acne, lost alot of head hair. Now I'm in my 30s and I'm an invisible person. I just really miss the smiles.
I’m ugly and was way worse with long hair and when I was (very) underweight. It’s both a blessing and curse. I don’t get cat-called or have people commenting weird sexual innuendoes on my pictures. But I never get any kind of male attention and have resigned myself to being single, because no one wants an ugly girl who’s only decent personality trait is being nice. On the other hand, I don’t attract jerks of my own age, which is a plus (creepy perverted sixty year olds are a different story, but those guys would go for any woman). Not saying all sixty year old guys are like that, those guys were just creeps.
And folks can be biased and not even realize it...I remember many many Winters ago, I got rear ended in traffic. Before I saw that it didnt cause much damage, I was was gonna whoop some a**e. When I realized the person that hit me was a super cute college woman, I ended up popping her car back together on the side of the road.
Most of my life I have not been particularly attractive. I got called ugly to my face on more than one occasion, had complete strangers bark at me driving past. Even had partners make comments about my not-very-good looks. When I was younger and had regular access to a lot of people, I had my personality. Now that I'm older, people don't generally even speak to me, male or female. I've even been in the position where I was singled out at this massive event by a "celebrity" who had a microphone who basically mocked my appearance and I had hundreds of people turn round and stare right at me. I think I'm a pretty wonderful person, all things considered. I'm not particularly attractive, but I think it would be easy enough to warm to me. But I am treated like I'm nothing by most people, most of the time, and I haven't had so much as a date in 20 years. It's been really hard to accept the reality that nobody wants me and nobody likely will ever want me again.
I'm sure you are a wonderfull person. Don't let mean people make you believe otherwise.
Load More Replies...I'm just surprised this needed a post. Pretty privilege is fact. I think every single person has personally experienced that this is true (and inversely, the envy-hostility thing from the same sex). I think it's just one of those things we have to accept and move on. This is often a subconscious thing (for some) and complaining about it won't change it. You may change someone's behaviour by pointing out the obvious, but there's a whole world of other people you can't change. The world is sadly unfair.
Well the comments on this from attractive people are trying very hard to convince us that being beautiful and having everyone trip over themselves to love and please you is sooo hard and sooo unfair, and that the ugly people treated like s**t by society are sooo lucky. So perhaps a post is needed every now and then to remind the privileged of how privelged they are.
Load More Replies...It works the same being disabled. Before I was a wheelchair user I was spoken to like I was intelligent and people assumed I had a degree and a good job (I did I was a teacher). Then now I'm in a wheelchair people will often ignore me and ask who ever I'm with things like "do they need a drink!" pointing at me and if they speak to me they do so in a slow and patronising way like I'm thick as two short planks. When I cut them off and explain that it's my legs that don't work not my brain, they act shocked and only sometimes embarrassed. One time I was in the supermarket alone early in the morning looking for something, this old lady comes up to me and goes (slowly like I'm thick) "have you lost your carer?" I was so shocked and annoyed that people assume I should have a minder with me, she was then shocked when I replied "no ive the hair spray aisle and I'm in a rush to drive to work" The lady had the audacity to reply "you're allowed out on your own, can drive and work?!" I was fuming!
Good looking people are treated better and perceived to be more competent by everyone, studies have shown. It affects men, women and children, even babies. It's a deeply rooted, unconscious bias ingrained in humans apparently. And it's very hard to overcome consciously.
I've seen studies suggesting that being attracted to good looking people is a evolutionary advantage. Symmetrical features, good skin and hair, good body shape, attention to grooming, etc., indicate health, skillfulness at obtaining resources, self-awareness, and other traits desirable in a good mate. Although in modern times, too many people go overboard with some of those traits and become narcissistic a-holes.
Load More Replies...Why stop at humans? At my shelter, only the cutest, prettiest cats would get adopted. I was even offered "beauty advice" for those "ugly ones" by a groomer. I resolved to never allow anyone who chooses an animal based on its looks to adopt from my shelter, and now I have specific questions to weed these people out.
I was going through connecting flights, the last being Hong Kong. Tired and Jetlag, I was wearing joggers, went into the Dior shop. The lady assistant immediately came towards me and told me rudely to get out, that I didn't have money to afford anything in the store and that it wasn't the place for me. I was stunned. Several days later I returned coming from a meeting and was well dressed. She recognized me, offered me a seat and welcomed me in with the most pretentious, sinister wide smile I ever saw, asking if I'd like champagne. At which point I was thoroughly disgusted and took myself elsewhere. Way of the world. I do notice people go out of their way when I'm dressed well, and terribly if not. I got offered high paying jobs with zero experience, just because.
Same here. Went to shop in a very posh dept store dressing like I normally do. Middle class. I did not exist. Thought I would test this theory out. Went back dressed well to do. Attention from sales people? No problem. Never went back there.
Load More Replies...I was not a pretty child but I grew into a beautiful teen and young adult. For 10+ years I did modelling for catalogues and local shows, some acting too. It felt great to have people look at me and smile, stop me in the street to compliment my hair or skin. Sometimes I'd get discounts or free things just because I was "a beautiful girl". Then I started having a lot of problems with my Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome; gained weight, grew out of control facial hair, got acne, lost alot of head hair. Now I'm in my 30s and I'm an invisible person. I just really miss the smiles.
I’m ugly and was way worse with long hair and when I was (very) underweight. It’s both a blessing and curse. I don’t get cat-called or have people commenting weird sexual innuendoes on my pictures. But I never get any kind of male attention and have resigned myself to being single, because no one wants an ugly girl who’s only decent personality trait is being nice. On the other hand, I don’t attract jerks of my own age, which is a plus (creepy perverted sixty year olds are a different story, but those guys would go for any woman). Not saying all sixty year old guys are like that, those guys were just creeps.
And folks can be biased and not even realize it...I remember many many Winters ago, I got rear ended in traffic. Before I saw that it didnt cause much damage, I was was gonna whoop some a**e. When I realized the person that hit me was a super cute college woman, I ended up popping her car back together on the side of the road.
Most of my life I have not been particularly attractive. I got called ugly to my face on more than one occasion, had complete strangers bark at me driving past. Even had partners make comments about my not-very-good looks. When I was younger and had regular access to a lot of people, I had my personality. Now that I'm older, people don't generally even speak to me, male or female. I've even been in the position where I was singled out at this massive event by a "celebrity" who had a microphone who basically mocked my appearance and I had hundreds of people turn round and stare right at me. I think I'm a pretty wonderful person, all things considered. I'm not particularly attractive, but I think it would be easy enough to warm to me. But I am treated like I'm nothing by most people, most of the time, and I haven't had so much as a date in 20 years. It's been really hard to accept the reality that nobody wants me and nobody likely will ever want me again.
I'm sure you are a wonderfull person. Don't let mean people make you believe otherwise.
Load More Replies...I'm just surprised this needed a post. Pretty privilege is fact. I think every single person has personally experienced that this is true (and inversely, the envy-hostility thing from the same sex). I think it's just one of those things we have to accept and move on. This is often a subconscious thing (for some) and complaining about it won't change it. You may change someone's behaviour by pointing out the obvious, but there's a whole world of other people you can't change. The world is sadly unfair.
Well the comments on this from attractive people are trying very hard to convince us that being beautiful and having everyone trip over themselves to love and please you is sooo hard and sooo unfair, and that the ugly people treated like s**t by society are sooo lucky. So perhaps a post is needed every now and then to remind the privileged of how privelged they are.
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