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Pope Francis was chosen as the head of the Catholic Church in 2013 when the previous pope, Benedict XVI, resigned due to health issues. And he became one of the most open popes to different perspectives on Catholic doctrine in history. 

But in the last General Audience, Pope Francis expressed his opinion on people not having children and that caused quite a big reaction on the internet. The Pope called people who would rather have pets than children selfish and in a sense, less human, so it’s understandable why it didn’t sit well with a lot of Twitter users.

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Jill Bussey
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes and stop popularising idiots who have 20+ kids.

Jods
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pity he’s not as vocal when it comes to historical sexual abuse committed by priests.

Linda Boccia
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hear hear! Yes, it is a pity that the Pope is not so vocal in condemning sexual abuse by priests. It's unnatural for priests to not be able to marry and have sex.

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Justine Queequag
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he really feels that way why not allow catholic priests to marry, honestly why does the world pay attention to mostly senile old men who head most of the world's religions? You know what's selfish? Having children u can't afford and condemning them to a life of poverty Having them because u are lonely and want someone to love Overpopulation, why not just adopt? Expecting them to take care of you when you get old Thats selfish

ForgotMyPWSendHelp
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Family planning is a privilege. You are calling poor people selfish for having kids when they are the least likely to have access to abortion and birth control because of religious interference in government. It would be really nice if everyone could afford to make better decisions about their future and family life, but many can't. You need to exercise better critical thinking before you criticize people.

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Terd Fergison
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who gives a fu-ck what the Bible claims? It's a breathtakingly evil fairytale book loaded with contradictions, scientific errors, historical errors, etc.

Brian Bennett
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know you will be condomed by the church - right? Spelling may be a tad off!

Susan Widomski
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When the Bible was written, the population needed to grow. That was a very long time ago. Things have changed.

Don't Look
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s time to become sterilized. I don’t think the ultra-christians should be allowed to procreate anymore.

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Every Wednesday morning, the Pope holds a General Audience which is not meant for a specific group of people but everyone who would like to come and hear what the pope has to say and who want to receive benedictions in various languages.

His last audience was this Wednesday and a clip of it went viral because of what was said. The pope chose to talk about how young people are more often choosing to substitute children with pets and in his opinion, that is selfish.

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    Janelle Collard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep! Animals don 't talk back or use your car without permission.

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    SuperChicken
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I completely agree, Betty. May you rest in peace.

    Kookamunga
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm with you, Betty. No crotch goblins for me. The Pope is doing what is usual - they want people to have kids to create more Catholics. Procreate to create more servants of God. No thanks.

    Brian Bennett
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Procreate to create more servants of the Catholic church to line their coffers!

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    Vicky Z
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She would have my vote for sure!the world needs more like her and less than the pope

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    Serial pacifist
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think having gold-plated churches and cardinals who drive Mercedes also has something to do with the counter-argument.

    bryguy
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or the ones driving Rolls Royce and living in opulant mansions in many countries. 10 of the 34 active archbishops in the United States live in buildings worth more than $1 million. Or the german bishop that spent $43 million renovating his home, including $2.4 million for bronze framed windows. At this point these people have nothing to do with God but they still have people blindly following and giving them money.

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    De Gueb
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's so F*** up, coming the church that doesn't let priests marry or have kids. Funny the everyone calls the local priest Father, except for his son who calls him Uncle.

    ForgotMyPWSendHelp
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm kind of convinced that the Church doesn't allow priests to marry because then the Church would have to pay the priests more for the care of their families to live, plus college for their kids, pensions for their wives, etc. They want utter devotion from their priests without having to pay a lot for it.

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    Loki’s Lil Butter Knife
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel the way about churches and religious leaders who pretend to be moral beacons and love everyone only to then spew hate and vitriol at LGBTQIA+ people and women who choose not to have children.

    Queen Jackson.
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe my 2 second google search is wrong, but eschew means to refrain from.

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    Brian Bennett
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    they should be charged higher taxes but the government should give this money to the poor- maybe we would not have somany in need of assistance! Pay it forward Popey!

    Bob Standen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    God made the heaven and earth in 6 days. But he just can't handle money. G. Carlin.

    Gabby Simmons
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For churches that clearly can; we have a church in our town, and we don't worry about taxes from them; very few members, no funds...why not base their taxes on their "income" or their preacher's income??

    Daniel Marsh
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again with this myth. NO non-profit organization pays taxes in the U.S, religious or otherwise. There is no special tax status for churches.

    julie son
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish I could upvote this a million times!

    Cee Mor
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right and how many kids does the pope have? Hmmmm zero

    Edwin Lesperance
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kids that we know about ... The Catholic Church is well-known for covering up embarrassing sexual trysts.

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    He introduces what he thinks is happening, “Today we see a form of selfishness in our society. The other day I was talking about the aging population. People don’t want to have children, maybe they’ll have one child, and not more than that. And many couples don’t have any children because they don’t want any or at least no more than one child. But they have two dogs and two cats that take the place of children. It’s funny, I understand, but it is a reality.”

    Then the pope goes on to explain why he thinks it’s a bad trend: “This denying of fatherhood and motherhood makes us lesser. It takes away our humanity. So our population gets older and less humane because we lose the wealth of parenthood. Then our country suffers.”

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    Seabeast
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Apparently they don't have to be virgins, they only have to stay celibate after they take their vows. But it's still a bit much for someone who hasn't had sex in years (if ever) to try to control the sex lives and reproductive choices of others.

    Demongrrrrl
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Celibacy only means you can't get married. It's chastity that means you can't have sex.

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    Panda Kicki
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He worked at a nightclub as a bouncer in his youth, I doubt he is a virgin. Current celibacy perhaps.

    Nadine Bamberger
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bold words from someone who condems single moms and same sex couples raising kids, who would gladly make a woman with her kids stay with her abuser so the nuclear family doesn't get disturbed. Bold words from the head of an organization that hoards riches and only cares about the poor for brownie points so they don't go straight to hell. I don't give a flying f**k about what you chose to do or not do with your body, what I do with mine is none of your concern.

    𝖊𝖆
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is the pope catholic? Sure is, but he definitely isn’t a virgin

    Jose Arevalo
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What makes one think the pope is a virgin. He's a CEO of a corporation, not a saint.

    Brian Bennett
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like I said befor - How do you prove a male is a virgin??????????

    julie son
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention form the head of a church that decided more that 1300 years after its creation to forbid their priests to marry, so their possessions can revert to the church rather than be inherited by their children!

    Deborah Phillips
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Several people are assuming that the Pope is a virgin. Keep in mind that all priests were teenagers first, and it is highly likely they have "history." Still, not having kids and staying sane is selfish? - Nope.

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    Gelato Cat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Get ur crucifix off of my cervix

    Nikki Sevven
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Get your spiritus sanctus out of my uterus

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    Tamra Stiffler
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I always listen to men who say women should have children. /S. 🙄

    Brian Bennett
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are you trying to say that you want to control my bodily functions to support a wealthy church with a child that I cannot support! you sir are a mental incompetent!

    Shane Van Veghel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think I need that on a bumper sticker!

    Mam cymraeg
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Love it best line ever send it to Texas as well

    Anna Lessens
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ladies we have a pro choice chant in the making

    Connie Martin
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is at least 40 years old. Probably older

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    The Pope believes that only parenthood can make a person feel fulfilled. Because children will be the ones who will close your eyes and there will always be someone who will take care of you when you are old, which sounds like kind of a selfish reason to have kids.

    “It’s a risk, yes, but having a child is always a risk, regardless if it’s a biological child or adopted, but it’s riskier to not have them at all. It’s riskier to negate fatherhood and motherhood.” The risk is in that a woman who negates motherhood, either spiritual or material, is not complete; she is missing something essential. The Pope asks people to think about that.

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    Brian Bennett
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cats are better than ungrateful kids!

    EEF🤓
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look at that ickle face. Urge to boop

    Jane London
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most definitely not. Then again he doesn't know anything about anything really, as if he is one to discuss procreating, or did he fit a bit in before he entered the church.

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    Wistiti
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do not feel comfortable leaving my children anywhere near any church.

    Anita Pickle
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially a Catholic one. They have a very pedo track record.

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    DennyS (denzoren)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He'd be chasing kids down when they steal his Popemobile...not these kids in particular...just any kids.

    Isa Trip
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do not leave any children unattended with a priest /pope lol bad idea

    Jo Choto
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, no, he would have someone else take care of them. Make him come round to your house where the kids are on their home turf.

    ItsOnlyAFleshWound
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the Dope’s priests wanted to leave me “fulfilled”, so I stopped taking advice from 15th-century chess pieces that (supposedly) have never had sex

    Vicky Z
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is definitely not a good idea

    Otter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honey, I wish I could give you ten upvotes!

    Salty Wild Hair
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Out of all the remarks to the Pope, this is by far the worst idea ever.

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    It’s actually a very unexpected statement to hear from Pope Francis as he has always surprised us by being so liberal, loving and inclusive. He has said that atheists also can go to heaven, he accepted that people with non-traditional orientations are not evil and their decisions are not for him to judge, he doesn’t deny science and he even thinks that women who have had an abortion deserve forgiveness.

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    SuperChicken
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We need more people like Dr. Carley. who understands both sides.

    Cheese puff
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I though that dr Carley was a non animated show for small children about what doctors do from the 90s

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    Amanda Hunter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being an unwanted child is horrible, I wanted to die.

    Ka Se
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sending virtual hugs. Nobody should go through something like this

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    Carol Emory
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am the mother of an autistic son that has grown up and spends most of his time trying to be a regular person. The doctors have told me, with our family history, another child will most likely be autistic too. We got lucky with my son in that he is very high functioning ASD. The next one may not be. So I should run the risk of having a child with autism again just to satisfy some virgin that's never had to even babysit someone else's kid, normal or disabled? Yeah..go skip rope, Pope!

    Bexxxxx
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Go skip rope, pope! 👏😂 hahaha you sound like a lovely parent 🧡

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    Seabeast
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Children should only be born to people who want them.

    ForgotMyPWSendHelp
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. Imho having kids should be discouraged unless people have chosen it. It should not be the default path expected of everyone. Kids need to be enthusiastically wanted and loved. My heart absolutely breaks for children who are unwanted. Religious people pretend to care about children, but they give no thought whatsoever to what a child's life will be like after they're born.

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    Isabella
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First of all - it is HAVING children that IS SELFISH - because you decide you want them. Possible Child has no say there, and many of us aren't happy that we are here. We have to work our asses off to pay for living - and why exactly? I wasn't asked if I want to be born to this world, so why my parents woulsn't pay me my rent, food, amenities and stuff if they chose to have me, huh?

    Mam cymraeg
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly I love my kids but I've never understood why parenthood should be pushed on people who don't want it having a kid is a lifetime job . It's not for everyone and that's fine just let everyone live there lives family's aren't always parents and kids sometimes it's friends sometimes its fluffy animals and sometimes it can just be you . Live and let live x

    Vicky Z
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly i don't think i would be a good mother! I don't have patience and I'm a control freak! I don't want to make my kid miserable and i think that this is a responsible decision

    Jofeen
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dr. Joni for Pope 🙏

    Jods
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Comment from a colleague from work who had recently got married: “I suppose we should start trying for children now. It’s what’s expected, isn’t it?”. How some people get to be managers if staff is beyond me.

    Nick Johnson
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    3 years ago

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    Vicky Z
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly I've had enough with old men telling women what they have to do! This is 2022!! ENOUGH!

    Otter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... who's never had to even *worry* about being pregnant, much less giving birth.

    La Kalypso
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want this Pope to give birth. Just once. The "natural" way. And then I'll collect his thoughts... *devilish laugh*

    Hugh Cookson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or have sex , and for that matter, most of the hundreds of thousands of 'celibate' priests and nuns who follow this silly doctrine .....

    Amanda Hunter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The pope is a jackass, and should be in prison.

    Brian Bennett
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Celibate? We don't know what goes on behind closed doors!

    jane don
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never fathered a child--From what's come out about the church--MABEY that's True-

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    Because Pope Francis has a reputation of being non-judgemental, judging people for not having children was unpredicted. What bothered people was that he called childless couples selfish when the people who decide to not have children think that on the contrary, they are being responsible. If they are not in a good financial state to have children, they don’t want to have a child and not be able to take care of it. Also, they realize that the world is already overpopulated and it’s becoming more polluted here, so having more children would add to the problem.

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    DennyS (denzoren)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder if he remembers when King Henry basically paid his way to divorce. Lol

    Hugh Cookson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A tad wrong - Henry VIII wanted a divorce from Catherine of Aragon and asked Pope Clement VII, the Pope, who, for various, mostly political, reasons said no, so Henry threw his toys out of the pram and thus started the dissolution of the monasteries, kicking all Papists and their allies out of the United Kingdom and made himself the head of the church - hence the Church of England

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    Panda Kicki
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dont confuse celibacy and virginity. He is a ex-bouncer that used to work in a nightclub, plenty of chances to lose virginity then.

    Vicky Z
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is not even important if he's a virgin or not! That's irrelevant! He is a guy telling women what to do! And that's NEVER ok!

    Bacony Cakes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only time when that's ok is if the ship's sinking!

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    Wistiti
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hahahahaha !!! Who says the pope is a virgin? (IF virgin means never ever having sexual experience.)

    Rick Hoppenbrouwer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    About the family jewels that he will never use .

    Josiane Roy
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The mistake here is thinking he's a virgin. Many religious orphanages contained the children priests had with nuns. But I guess like everything else they can just pray and ask for forgiveness and become virgins again as such is their reasoning for everything else. It also speaks volumes coming from that a religious organization who took kids from their families and abused them to death would still be giving family and parenting advice.

    Nick Johnson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hmmm…if not having children is selfish then why didn’t he ( pope ) have children?

    Gabby Simmons
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Catholics and Evangelicals- along with many other white folks- are having a cow because the number of white folks has declined...lol (as I clutch my pearls)

    Joy Wolff
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pope wants more children to be fondled by pedo priests. Sick!!!?

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    Cori
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. So much this. I feel increasingly more guilty by the day for my decision to have kids. The more apparent our doomed time-line becomes, the more guilty and selfish I feel about what I chose to do.

    Kris
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is no right or wrong answer when it comes to having kids. You should not feel guilty.

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    Terd Fergison
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. You want kids to grow up in world with no polar bears? No rhinos? No elephants? No orangutans? No bees? As the tides rise and heat waves scorch? As hurricanes and storms get more massive and out of control?

    Moose
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    3 years ago

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    Do people here post anything more then doom and gloom.

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    K R
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The pope is ignorant, limited scope. We can learn humanity from how we treat other species, the environment, etc.

    SeidWolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the mind of the RC Church, more population means more donations

    Hollysmom
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly why I never wanted to have children. I just couldn't do that to another being.

    ForgotMyPWSendHelp
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry, have to ask... is Holly your pet, then? Just assumed it was a kid but realize now it probably isn't lol.

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    Chloe Patt
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For the kids to keep donations coming into church once our generation is no longer here. Plain and simple.

    Jods
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Day after day, hour after hour there are TV appeals for helping children in Yemen, money so that children can access clean water in Africa, money for Indian girls to have a safe sleeping place at night, and so on. It’s horrible of me but I cannot help but say out loud perhaps if the parents stopped producing children.

    Terd Fergison
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the Catholic Church holds some responsibility for some of those children; they actively discourage contraception, claiming it's an evil sin (even in the parts of Africa ravaged by AIDS, they say no condoms). The Catholic Church is the most evil, most corrupt criminal organization in all of human history.

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    Jenny Pugh
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I were young now, I wouldn't bring children into this world.

    Gail Gibson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm from a generation that thought all this was finished in WWII. I am the child of both service people, air force, mother from England father from Canada, married 1942. Had me late in life, so I can honestly say that I have watched it all burn from 1963 to now. Now that is a horrifying vision and life to behold after all this time. I suffered from old values, old traditions, old manners, old morals and I can say I am witnessing what my parents witnessed in WWII. The world has gone crazy, greedy beyond any religion, bible verse, narccissts and neo whatever, gangs and all those good people did not do a thing to check this from happening. I lost sympathy with the catholic church when I was 14 and watched my devoted parents seek help after they their alms (pennies and dollars for confession in the collection plate for decades) and watched them both get destroyed by the religion that said it cared and loved them and families. Sorry for long diatribe, I'm just feeling such despair

    Storm Rise
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly right! I only had one child, and she decided when she was 12 that she was never having kids as they'd have nothing but grief in this world. she's 23 and even more set on this decision than she was at 12! Good on her xoxox

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    Bored Panda wanted to know if it is even possible to live a happy and healthy live without being selfish and reached out to Gretchen Kubacky, Psy.D., a Los Angeles, California psychologist and she assured us that it is. But she disagreed that people who don't have children are selfish.

    The psychologist explained, "For many people, choosing TO have children in a troubled world, without adequate resources, would be the actual selfish choice. Many people are able to devote more time, energy, and resources to living a healthier life when they are not also responsible for managing the lives of one or more children."

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    . a
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. The church needs more little kids to molest, then fail to protect, then deny, come on!

    September
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's just upset that those dungeon level child brothels in the Vatican are getting more difficult to fill.

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    Atero
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Apparently some choose children as well... in a very wrong way... :/

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry but I think most churches are cults!

    Belle Miles
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The church is building it's slave base and must maintain it and increase it in order to continue to build and supply it's architecture, land grabs and and a consistent supply of obedient children to molest given to them eagerly by willing parents.

    Shelley DuVal
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember on a TV news/current affairs program, when the 'Most Reverend. Desmond Mpilo Tutu' stood at the front of his church begging for money to help feed the poor people of his country, where inside the church were statues covered in gold.

    Jane London
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course. Isn't the world all about wealth? And he need not worry about having a good bed to sleep in, or food to eat. He lives in luxury in the Vatican.

    Healing Moon Breezes
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you might want to look up some facts - the RC church gives billions to charity every year.

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of us wanted kids, but married later in life and proceeded to have miscarriages instead. Are we selfish because we didn’t get married right after having our first period at 12?

    E Menendez
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel this in my being. Going through this now. Not having children isn't always a choice.

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    DennyS (denzoren)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is the Pope prepared to pay my bills when I have a kid? I didn't think so.

    Yurie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even when the financial means are available - I came from a well-to-do but abusive family - some of us also don't want to pass on generational trauma. I don't know when I'm going to be done undoing the harm

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear Pope: Some of us can't have children - I suppose this means we are defective in your eyes maybe we should be put down! No the church will take money from defects any time!

    Shane Van Veghel
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Guess what, animals are a lot less cost to raise than a child...

    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But also it can be a choice and that's fine too!! LET PEOPLE DO WHATEVER THEY WANT! We don't need more people in this planet anyway

    J. Normal
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is the catch - The people who would raise the kids properly with love, are NOT the ones having the kids.

    Tom Hanlin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Huh? It's got to be the best time in history to raise children. No wars, modern medicine, safe food and water, ...

    Littlemiss
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gee ain't that the truth ha ha

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    Gabby Simmons
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister would have had children, but her abuse messed up her insides...

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    birdy gobyebye
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and to spin around three times before laying down.

    Imogene Cargeaux
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dem good babies. They look like they're very well behaved children. The best children.

    K R
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just about everything I needed to learn about parenting, I learned through having my dog. He taught me, and I taught him for 14 years until 1.2.22. So the pope can put that in his pipe.

    Dough Puddle
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dogs: Acceptance without expectation.

    Anita Pickle
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What adorable and well behaved children

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    The Pope's statement might have hurt a lot of faithful people who looked up to him and who used his words as guidance because inevitably Catholics who don't want children exist. We asked what would psychologist Gretchen Kubacky would say to such a person and her answer was that the reality is that religion doesn't dictate our lives anymore.

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    She said, "I would note that, while I am not a religious authority, matters of faith, morality, and personal ethics are often complex, and inadequately addressed by the blanket statement of the Pope. Religion should function as a guideline, particularly in cases where there may be conflicting medical, financial, or emotional needs at play. This was not a personal judgment on one individual."

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    Tenacious Squirrel
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And some people have kids but literally don’t do anything to care for the future earth their kids have to live in.

    Laura Pantazis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I choose not to have children. I also choose to become a court appointed attorney to represent children and their best interests in court.

    Imogene Cargeaux
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. I don't have kids. But I dedicate a lot of time helping the next generation. I volunteer with troubled teens and use animal therapy to help them center themselves and get their s**t back on track. I couldn't do this if I had kids. They are my kids.

    Sheila Stamey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And some have a ton of kids and horrifyingly abuse them. The basic thing is, don't take on anything, child or pet that you cannot properly care for if you have a choice. I had to raise three alone. I thank God for His help. I had lots of it. It takes a while lot of people too. Teachers, friends, family ( which I had almost zero of) and going into it, I was absolutely SURE that I had the wherewithal to do it, all the way through to college. Stuff happens. You don't always know. But I came out of it with three marvelous humans, citizens of the earth, caring of their community, and scared to death to have kids for the most part.

    Florida, but without the beach
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And some people have kids and expect anyone else in the world to take care of them. Some don’t care if they’re taken care of at all. Many are abused and neglected. There are foster kids in need all over the world. I’m not sure the answer is more kids

    dale-harriet rogovich
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was in favor of "women's lib" as a girl; I'm proud and relieved that my granddaughter KNOWS that the she has a choice about whether or not to have a child. Yes, T. Squirrel, you're absolutely right. And there are men and women who want and will succeed at being stewards instead of parents; let them follow their inclinations, in which they will succeed, and leave the children to those who genuinely want to see a generation of citizens who knew from birth that they were start with love and admiration.

    Backtotheislands
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I see not reproducing as the single greatest thing I can do for the planet. I also recycle, reuse and most importantly, reduce what I use to begin with.

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    Rissie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's a prime example of a Judgy McJudgeface, but then, that comes with the job, pretending you're not when in reality you are.

    Bernice Wittwer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah he’s not exactly being very Helpy McHelperson there is he?

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    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most fanatically religious people are judging and generally don't follow what they believe

    Sheila Stamey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well that kind of thing goes with the Pope job description, but he went too far fussing about fur babies. You just can't do that. No /s either.

    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It always surprises me how they don't realise that with this behaviour they make more people turn away from religion! Isn't their job to attract more people rather than send them away?

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    Gogubaci
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it's funny how this commandment is the most broken and no one bats an eye

    Anita Pickle
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Organized religion often contradicts the bible. They twist it to suit them and their reign of power.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you believe everything that it written in a book you lame excuse for a man!

    AP
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I usually like Pope Francis' unorthodox stances, but he is only human and will not be infallable. The statement (if he is saying it the way it is seems to be conveyed) is kinda judgy disregarding the laws and rights to free will and I assume he will realize his error (at least I would hope) Everyone effs up, even the pope. He isn't perfect and he isn't a God.

    LostSoul
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Catholic church is not christian, its organised crime: aggressive tax prevention, extreme child abuse (until today), mass murder (esp. in the Middle Age), conspiration with countless dictators and mass murderers(incl. the 3rd Reich), etc. Countlees crimes have been committed by these criminals.

    Béla Kun
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So basically Thursday for the church.

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    As mentioned In Pope Francis eyes people who don't have children lose a part of their humanity. He thinks that women are not complete and lack something if they don't become mothers. A lot of people share the sentiment and often when a woman says she will not be having children meets them with judgement and tries to convince them that they will regret it later as being mothers is in their blood.

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    Dr. Gretchen Kubacky is not sure about that. She has not read any reliable research that would claim that "women have an inborn maternal instinct or 'mother's intuition.' Many women are aware that they are poorly suited to parenting, mothering, or nurturing other human beings - or perhaps that they simply prefer a different life or lifestyle. To impose a threat of this nature - that one will be filled with regrets and unfulfilled desires without a child or children - is simply wrong."

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    Rissie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh huck yeah! That face!

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is what the next pope should look like four paws cute face and a happy wagging tail!

    Leodavinci
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe... but he looks like Winston Churchill.

    tuzdayschild
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's cute alright, but not as cute as my kid. (possibly biased)

    Robin DJW
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you ever get tired of him, I'll have him, thank you.

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    Rissie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The devil did good at his arts and crafts! Black kitties are the best.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, he failed. He intended the black cat to be a devil, when the reality is they’re incredibly sweet angels. Incredibly maligned, but truly sweet angels. All animals are angels, unlike a huge number of humans.

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    Béla Kun
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cats are still basically wild beasts, we never domesticated them they just decided that around us life is much easier, when you grasp this everything about cats will click in it's place. Oh and not to mention their black magic that they can modify our mood if they want or helps us heal, cats are awesome.

    Rannveig Ess
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    J. Normal
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sarah c andersen is a wonderful artist. You should check out her site. She gives Lots of smiles.

    Rannveig Ess
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Checked it out..you're correct! Wouldn't have except you mentioned it, so thanks!

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    rumade
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The cats in my life only brought me joy, except for when they eventually passed.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You made nothing because you do not exist. Like us they evolved. Animals do not love money like churches do!

    ChariotLee
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't care for dogs. Cats, on the other hand...well, at least I know which side I've cast my lot.

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    Rissie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's a good boi and would never swear, that's the human speaking, but he would take the hat and rip it to pieces because it would be a great chew toy.

    E B
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, the metal threads might hurt his mouth. He should just pee on it!

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    Sheila Stamey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He would never be such a bad boi, would you, Chuck? What's that you say? He can't help it he's just misguided? Aww.. Lookit you Chuck, always taking up for people when they don't deserve it. You are such a good boi!! Let's go play!

    Anita Pickle
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Chuck shall steel his hat, drop it on poo and roll on it for a jolly good time.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear Chuck: I agree with your feelings entirely after all you are god backwards - right!

    Bacony Cakes
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not even a hat. It's more like a sanitary pad he wears on his head.

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    It’s hard to say if more people now don’t want children in comparison to the past because maybe now they feel less pressure to have them and a few decades ago, it was just unthinkable to not have a child as it was just a stage of life you must reach.

    The Pope sees this new awareness of what people really want as a problem, but what do you think of Pope Francis’ statement and what do you think about the current pope in general? We would love to hear opinions, regardless of whether you have children or not, want them or not.

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    Samantha Lomb
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cause the pope thinks humans are better/more important than animals. He is very wrong but that is what he thinks

    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot understand how a person who is supposed to represent God has no compassion about animals! For me whoever thinks that animals' lives are less important is evil!

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even though the Catholics have St Francis for animals, if I’m not mistaken, they still think animals don’t have souls. They’ve got it backasswards. Animals have souls, beautiful souls. It’s a huge number of humans who don’t.

    Tamra Stiffler
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not selfish. It's freaking awesome.

    Nadia
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes!! It's awesome!!! Thank you for helping these innocent souls !

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    Rick Hoppenbrouwer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Animals don't put money in his plate. And that's the bottom line. Greed.

    Vortex Lazer
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I still don't get the Pope's reasoning with the selfishness of having pets rather than having kids. Pets are family too, and there's a reason why they called it furkids in Chinese.

    Hollysmom
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love my nieces and nephews and their children however, I believe it is selfish to bring a child into this f**ked up world. We can't even properly care for the people already here, or the planet.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Leia - the selfishness is coming from the pope - you just keep on keeping on - you have the best job in the world!

    Homer Jay
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wainting for the pope to say that helping old people is selfish cause kids are better

    Jane Adams
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It isn't. It is a beautiful and noble thing to do. Thank you.

    Jane Adams
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It isn't and it is a beautiful and noble thing to do. Thank you.

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    Ravens Mom
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I vote this one as the best response!!

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kinda feel sorry for the jerk if he has never experienced a dogs love its the greatest thing on earth!

    Tom Spade
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Having experience in all 3, I would rather raise kids than manage people, and would rather live in the woods with my dog than the previous two.

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know it's too bad we don't have a choice - kid or dog - I opt for dog1

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    Tee Witt
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so clever and directly to the point. I did have 1 child, was not impressed with pregnancy or birth, so adopted dogs and cats from then on.

    Laurie Turner
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    bahahahahahahahahaha :::: deep breath::::: hahahahahahahaha

    Nadia
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well said!!! Hahaha!!! Very, very good!!! Same here!

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I made it clear before we were married that there would be no kids just critters and they would be fed before us!

    Robin DJW
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My daughter also made that decision, and I could not be more proud of her and my wonderful son-in-law.

    Miss Frankfurter
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good luck getting these grandkids back after a weekend visit.

    Janelle Collard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rescued animals are the best! :)

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They also don't pay for the injustices they did to our indigenous children they buried them in mass graves. And the pope wont' even issue an apology!

    ZAPanda
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The point is they want more kids so as to be raised catholic and increase his empire of tithers. What age they are and their educational levels don't matter, it's raw numbers he's after. That's why they advocate against condoms in africa, because again, they want the numbers.

    Alex Metslov
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Billy, it's just a business. Nothing personal. Need numbers!

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    Serial pacifist
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The church can’t. The court settlements on child (not animal) abuse take away too big of a chunk from the budget.

    Lynn Morello
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is the Pope/Church going to pay for all the births in the USA?

    LostSoul
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, but they should pay for this Benz.

    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey boss are you gonna pay me extra for doing the job of the person you fired too? Lol no! Feels the same

    I I
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    could if they wanted to , they got the cash to do so , they got the cash to do a whole lot of things but it sits instead of helping others , just like Jesus wanted

    Healing Moon Breezes
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey Andi...it's not a requirement to pay for your child's college. It's nice, but not required.

    Marty Sunderland
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or food and clothing while growing up? And for a decent home?

    KAREN-LEIGH SCHMOCKER
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the Catholic church did to the Canadian indigenous children is well known but they will not confess or pay to rectify their outright cruelty; who the hell are they to say ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT CHILDREN.

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    ianbremmer Report

    Vicky Z
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should be higher because it's the best response

    Bacony Cakes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ᵒᵒʰ ʰᶦˢ ⁿᵃᵐᵉ'ˢ ᵐᵒᵒˢᵉ

    Hi, I'm Mars!
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moose is right. Moose deserves a treat, a belly rub, and lots of hugs.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moose a French kiss for the pope - be sure to use mouthwash after!

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    Nicetrybutn0 Report

    K Witmer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Catholicism is another word for guilt. I used to be Catholic and that's all they want to do is instill guilt.

    pat hayes
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    74 yr. old irish catholic here....they lost me in 1st grade....never believed any of there crap,much to my mums horror....i used birth control til i could find a male dr. who could get over himself long enuff for me to get sterilised when i was 30....got called selfish so many times thru my life...don't care, married to the love of my life for jyst over 52 yrs....never needed religion, never will....millions of lives lost thru our history over it i will never understand the blind obedience of the masses, deep sigh....

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    Vicky Z
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly! Comments like this make people leave the church! But they are not clever enough to realise that they are losing their customers and some years later they will have to rephrase their horrible beliefs to bring them back

    Patricia Lynch
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people, myself included, are just not cut out to raise children... be it lack of interest, lack of means, lack of health. Is it better for a person who does not want to have children, to force themselves to have children and try to raise them when they're really not wanted? The CHURCH is the last institution that should be preaching to us about children.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people go into professions(?) where there are children - just to molest them I admit this is not a choice maybe I don't know! But they should be tested to see if they have this trait!

    Terd Fergison
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sure it's a calculated risk. They have predicted that this will make them more members than they will lose.

    Natasha Woodworth
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From my understanding, it's why the church has historically been against birth control, abortion, homosexuality, suicide. Less members=less power and $

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    K R
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Church is a factory for hypocrisy

    Leigh Headley
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES BUT... Do people really chose pets over kids? or, is this just a false premise promulgated by (probably) the Catholic right wing? It sounded to me like a schill question from someone trying to bait the liberal pope into saying something liberal about this laughably false choice. I'm glad he didn't say something like " God loves all his children no matter what their life choices are". this would have caused another kind of ruccus -- a storm of protest from those right wingers claiming that this liberal pope will have us blessing unions between pets and people and so on... No pope wants to start arguments but whose side of this false argument do you think he wants to be on?

    Salty Wild Hair
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have both and I didnt ask the Catholic church their advice on anything. You cannot be made to feel guilty if you do not consider what they think in the first place.

    Lynn Morello
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people just should NOT have kids.

    Linda Lee
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember my older brother telling our mother that Jesus was Jewish. My blindly, ignorant mother proclaimed that Jesus was not a Jew! According to dear old mom, Jesus was Christian and the first catholic pope. People like my mother make up the vast majority of the congregation. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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    JoelContartese Report

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I ain't fit to be no momma to a human!

    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And knowing that the world is not the best place too

    I I
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    to be honest if i'd not had my kids young i wouldnt have had them

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    benschwartz_ Report

    Rissie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Healthy human relationships and healthy pet relationships to channel it all.

    Ann Dennis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, try actually living on Earth like the rest of us. Might help with your couples and family counseling, too.

    Seabeast
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They actually could get married at one time. The sole reason the church stopped allowing that was because they wanted priests to leave any property or money they had to the church, not to children or their spouse. That was the reason - money.

    I I
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    they do seem to be REAL horny,,,,,,,,,,,

    MonsterMum
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    but marrying small boys isn't allowed

    Tee Witt
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the problems of many children.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe they won't have all the illegitimate little priest products walking this earth!

    Leigh Headley
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Papa's political problem with this tactic is that too many priests will want to mary each other

    Shelley DuVal
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good point. Then they will probably decide that being catholic isn't the way they want to be.

    Arenite
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, priests apparently like boys and until now there was no gay marriage.

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    Lexi477 Report

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can anyone not love this beauty!

    Cheese puff
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    O also a professional perfume saleswoman if my sources are correct

    Taryn Wallace
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a gorgeous floof!!! What is she

    #30

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    vox_n_thecosmos Report

    Rissie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, this, how is growing self awareness negative. It's a necessity if we want to become better at what we do. And one big one is stopping this innate humping to bake more humans behavior. And if we do that by projecting our feelings to care for something on a pet. Then that's fine by me. More pets, less unwanted children!

    Jods
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s not being selfish. It’s being conscious of over population and can we really afford to have a kid.

    Vicky Z
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the opposite of selfish actually

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't this man (I use the word loosely) understand that some people know that they would not and could not be a mother to a child. I would not want to subject a child to me. But put a baby squirrel in my hands I will and have fed it every 2 hours keeping it warm and keeping it on my chest so it can feel and hear a heartbeat I know I'm weird but I don't think I could do this with a child -A ND I DON'T KNOW WHY.

    SeidWolf
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Premeditated responsibility??? Heretic!!!

    Hollysmom
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and actively and responsibly prevented unwanted/unplanned children from being conceived

    K W
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let's be real. You can be aware and have all those things and still be just one health crisis away from it all going to hell if you live in America.

    #31

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    Cashsgirl222 Report

    Rissie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh my, look at that selfish man with those.. Nope, can't do it. It's not funny. People that love pets are aware of how important empathy is and that being good to each other is easier if you mean it and feel it. Having children without appreciating that is actually what is selfish. Just following your f tard snake brain to procreate in stead of understanding the implications.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s pure Heaven to sit down to read or watch TV and end up looking like someone dumped a bucket of animals on you—-especially when it’s cold outside!

    Rannveig Ess
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Awwwwwww. It's so cute how Doggo thinks he's a lap dog. Which he is. But you get what I'm saying.

    Alberta Gal
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ooh, ooh! I know this one!🤔 It’s the cat, right? 🤣

    Parthania Dawson
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And does the pope also not realize the immense help that is given to a person's mental health by having a pet? IMHO it's greater than having kids.

    Suzanne Clark
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Um, somebody needs a bigger lap!

    Rannveig Ess
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I fit, I sits .... applies to dogs, too, as well as cats. I envy this gentleman for having such loving and cozy pals

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unconditional love from both human and critters - you do realize the human will not get up until the animals have vacated by their own choice!

    Salty Wild Hair
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cat is like "why do you always have to do what I do? UGH!"

    #32

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    tooftalf Report

    Samantha Lomb
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It also says its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get to heaven. But the catholic church ignores that too

    Holly Hobby
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Catholic church is a cult that doesn't even read or teach the bible. They just want you to pay them money bc that's how they think they get into heavrn.

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    Hollysmom
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The majority of "religious people are the exact ones who do judge

    Hollysmom
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They say "it's not me who is judging you but, God" how egotistical to think they know the heart of God or what "truth" is just because they adhere to a certain interpretation.

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The pope has the delusion that he is in judgement of is all!

    KMill
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of us are childless not by choice. I’ve had 9 miscarriages and pre-term births that end in neonatal deaths … somehow that makes me selfish?

    ItsOnlyAFleshWound
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, but when language like that disables its usefulness as a cudgel, it goes right out the window

    Tracy J Valdez
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And there are a LOT of people that should stick to cactus and succulents.

    LostSoul
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The bible is just valid for others.

    Healing Moon Breezes
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    3 years ago

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    Overpop is again a myth - look it up.

    Carrie de Luka
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did. Prefer to listen to David Attenborough who doesn't think it's a myth. We are still expanding in numbers planet-wide and as we do our impact on this planet worsens. We could consume less but we will still consume too much of the things that are harmful. For example electric cars won't solve enough problems, just create different ones. You going to give up tech, with all the harmful batteries?A couple of 'small' issues which are just the tip of the rapidly melting iceberg. Humans are massively harmful.

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    jamiceara Report

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    Chinchillazllla Report

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope - I see no judgement on this critters face and he's a lot cuter!

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    Evil Little Thing
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is the cutest ginger piggie ever.

    Mistralok
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please don't insult that cute little piglet.

    Nadia
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh! Loved him/her!! Sooo cute!!

    A Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    aww that's an adorable piggy :D

    #35

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    JimMFelton Report

    Raven Sheridan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He only wants his followers to have children because the ordained paedophiles in the church, don't have enough children to molest.

    Josiane Roy
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The film spotlight will give you a glimpse of just how widespread it really is. I guess now that priests face molesting each other the Holy See decided to step in. Smfh. My grandmother had a theory , that most of the shady men and women went into religious works as a way to hide in plain sight

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    Treessimontrees
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Catholics talking about kids is always a bad PR move.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought after they were caught molesting children they were transferred to orphanages and the like!

    Josiane Roy
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They were. Or in a sort of halfway house off church premises, which then put even more children in danger as their exposure to them was significantly increased. Several houses were next to schools and parks. Because they were relocated to another part of the country or city the accusations they faced weren't public knowledge as the Catholic governing body would say they entered treatment or retired.

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    Gene Perry
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mother Theresa ... not a "real" Mom.

    Rick Hoppenbrouwer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem is that Priest can't have kids with little boys.

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    SouthShoe14 Report

    GhostReflection
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She looks like she's reading the pope's comment right now

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those eyes, that nose , that face you could not hurt but you sure could love!

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    NeilNevins Report

    GhostReflection
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A quality that most kids won't possess

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe the pope need more broccoli! I wonder??

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    mutablejoe Report

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Massive is not the word I believe itty-bitty or none!

    #39

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    thegoodcatboy Report

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only thing worse than an animal abuser is a child abuser pope you have your hands full of the latter - but it does not seem to phase you how can you preach god and stand behind these people!

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    BaronDestructo Report

    Dodo
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thought it was a seal for a second

    kim morris
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same, modified, and you tell Dodo and I that this isn't a seal. Go ahead, we'll wait. gettyimage...c08f9e.jpg gettyimages-1129869356-612x612-61d841fc08f9e.jpg

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Suji should not be impressed with this holy mans attitude!

    ItsOnlyAFleshWound
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does she have a nice soft, warm belly? Pugs are the best

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    MartinBelam Report

    Not A Panda
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nonono, you see, the pope is only worried because not enough WHITE people are having children. THAT is an issue for him.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You mean there aren't any black priests, well then I'm otta here!

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    Rissie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My pets make having children easier. My cats don't expect anything from me and still sit on my lap for purrs and cuddles and until recently my senior dog, who just passed, was the sweetest reason to keep active. Children mostly drain my energy because of what society expects of them. And for what? So they can be bored at school and be told that the one thing they utterly enjoy is stupid by adults. Bleeeeh. F that. I love my kids, but I don't love this world at this point. There are rays of hope and sunshine, but this pope is not one of them.

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    lopezroman31 Report

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    LizRicci Report

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A box- o cat love it now how does one box a pope!

    DidiRomski
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He just wants more adrenochrome (pardon spelling)

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    Tweet_Dec Report

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