37 Of The Best Reactions To Pope Francis Endorsing Civil Unions For Same-Sex Couples
InterviewThere might be large changes in the Catholic Church in the future. Pope Francis has become the first pontiff to express support for same-sex civil unions. He commented about this in an interview in a documentary film called ‘Francesco’ which premiered at the Rome film festival on Wednesday, October 21.
“Homosexual people have a right to be in a family. They are children of God and have a right to a family. Nobody should be thrown out or be made miserable over it. What we have to create is a civil union law. That way they are legally covered. I stood up for that,” said Pope Francis, causing very powerful reactions all over the world.
Bored Panda has collected some of the best reactions to the pontiff’s announcement for you to look through, dear Pandas, so scroll on down, upvote your faves, and share your thoughts with everyone in the comments. Bored Panda reached out to Andreas Harsono from the Human Rights Watch to hear his take on the pope's comment. Read on for Harsono's insights about the effects of the pontiff's comment, how the Vatican might react, and what the effect on the Catholic world could be. We also contacted LGBTQ Faith UK to hear their take on the situation as well.
Finally, we contacted James Martin, a Jesuit priest and author of the book 'Building a Bridge,' on LGBT Catholics. He met with Pope Francis last year in a private audience where they discussed LGBT Catholics. "I had seen the documentary a few weeks ago, and was surprised and delighted by the Pope's candid comments about same-sex civil unions. He had said similar things when he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires, but saying them when he's pope and in such a clear way, on camera, is another thing. It's an important step forward in the church's relationship with the LGBT community," Father Martin told Bored Panda.
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This made me sob... a little. It's simple, humble, sincere... powerful...
According to Father Martin, Pope Francis' comments stand on their own, especially since the pontiff has said similar things before. "At one point in the documentary, he says, 'I stood for that,' meaning that he had supported the same thing in Buenos Aires. So it would be hard to deny that he said what he said—especially since he said it before."
But what changes does the future hold? Father Martin said that change is coming. It's slow, but it has begun. "While Pope Francis hasn't changed official church teaching, the comments themselves are part of real change that he's instituted in the church's relationship with the LGBT community. He's changed the tone, the approach and the whole conversation around the LGBT community. Remember, he's the first pope even to use the word 'gay;' he's talked about the need to welcome and support LGBT people in families; and he himself has gay friends."
I am a messianic Christian. And i don't care about homosexuality never did figured the world had bigger problems. I never listen to the pope i csnt believe people like him are still relevant. If gays wanna get married they should be able too they have as much right to be miserable as everyone else.
Father James Martin, who is a Jesuit priest, told Bored Panda that he spoke with Pope Francis last year in a private audience during which they discussed LGBT Catholics.
Fourth, Catholics now have no choice but to support gay marriage too.
Harsono from the Human Rights Watch explained that he's based in Jakarta, in Indonesia, where Pope Francis' comment may be met with some confusion.
"It is the largest predominantly Muslim country in the world. Indonesia is also seeing the rise of Islamism, discriminating LGBT individuals from transgender women who run hair salons to gay police and military officers. The Pope statement will puzzle many Muslim clerics in Indonesia. The progressive clerics will indeed welcome the Pope position that LGBT individuals have the rights to love and be loved. The conservative clerics will oppose it, widening the gap between what they considered to be Christianity and Islamism."
According to the human rights activist, the Roman Catholic church is an old and large religious insititution, so there shouldn't be any surprise if there's infighting within the orders and the bishops. It also shouldn't come as a surprise if the Vatican puts out a clarification about the pope's comment in the documentary. However, Harsono remains optimistic.
"His comment will bring changes throughout the Catholic world. Perhaps, some areas will have slower change than the others. In countries with gay marriages, the pontiff's statement will proceed faster. I hope Indonesia, which has a small but economically strong Catholic communities, will proceed faster, at least, among Christians."
Very clear! They say God makes no mistakes . You are who he made you to be. Sending love.
This is how religion should should treat their followers ... showering them with support and love.
The rainbow was god's signal in the flood story that he just committed world-wide genocide and he could do it again at any time. He's pointing a loaded gun right at our heads and demanding we be obedient little dogs. F-u-c-k- that.
So now he gave cruel and greedy humans to commit genocide themselves.
Load More Replies...Meanwhile, a representative of LGBTQ Faith UK told Bored Panda that they, like a lot of other people, were happy to see Pope Francis making the statement. "It is very welcome news. This is in line with what the pope said when he was archbishop in Buenos Aires, so this is what he actually thinks. The Vatican may roll it back a bit, but this is progress, even if it is the two steps forward, one step backwards type."
They continued: "It will not change things overnight, but it is another step on the road of progress. What it will do is make it harder for those who oppose same sex unions to simple hide behind the Roman Catholic Faith. It also offers support and encouragement to those who are campaigning for change."
The film ‘Francesco’ is directed by Evgeny Afineevsky and documents Pope Francis’ story over the last 7.5 years. The film covers issues that the current pontiff finds the most important, such as poverty, inequality, migration, and the environment.
It’s “been around” since the beginning of the human race, and our other humanoid ancestors. Every species on this earth has some same sex couples. Homosexuality isn’t something that was created by people, it’s a part of some people’s genetic code, like having brown hair.
YES! Even though I’m an agnostic, I like Pope Francis enough to defend him at all costs.
According to The Guardian, as pope, Francis had never previously publicly backed civil unions for same-sex couples. The words “as pope” being key here. However, he has previously endorsed such legal arrangements when he was the Archbishop of Buenos Aires.
However, before some of you Pandas start celebrating, you might want to temper your expectations a bit. Fundamental religious changes take decades (if not hundreds of years) to take root. And keep in mind that civil unions might be similar to marriage, but they’re not exactly the same.
That’s because she’s nuts and still believe in a document written at a time when the Oregon trail was still a hot thing.
Religion has been used to justify evil agendas at least since Rome fell, if not before.
While some people are ecstatic about the church modernizing and some powerful public figures have seen the pope’s comments as positive, other members of the faith aren’t thrilled by the news. Changing thousands of years of belief will take more than a single comment.
In the US, LGBTQ Catholics welcomed Pope Francis’ endorsement of same-sex civil unions. Meanwhile, Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence, Rhode Island, was one of the first conservative Catholic leaders to publicly criticize the pontiff’s comment, writes AP.
In the not too distant future, this will be seen as "normal" as the marriage of a man and a woman. If two people love one another, let no person interfere with their love.
I think what he really did was save a lot of lives. Whether from brutality of others or from suicide. Some people really struggle with their faith and sexuality. I think what he did was groundbreaking and smart. I'm not gay, nor have a child that is. But i`d be very happy as long as thats who my child is. The more it`s accepted, the better life will be for everyone. Just ♥ one another without bias. Spread it, it can grow. Its time now to observe all humans and the way they want to live. Why does peace seem harder to atain,than judgment or hate.Thank you Pope Francis. May the world watch your lead and join you. I`m sending such love out. Please just pass it on to anyone who needs it.
Again this meme makes no sense because the pope only speaks for the Catholics not all Christian dominations. So sorry may not be right but other churches won't change their stance just because of what some guy says.
“It’s just a flesh wound”. Off topic, I know. Can’t help it, big Monty Python fan...
The concept of family is a lot more fluid and flexible than most people think. LGBTQ people have always had to make their own families, after the ones they were born into rejected them. And the families they made were closer-knit, more loving, and much stronger than the paranoid conformists they were born to. However, acceptance by those who raised you and you were raised with would help heal a lot of stubborn old wounds. It will take time, as most new, progressive concepts do for a majority of people, but it will happen.
Naw, we just need a better Superior Court Justice . Shes no RBG or even close.
Side bar... Um... Aren't social workers supposed to help people with disabilities? Like isn't that their purpose?
Being straight and being homophobic are different things. Straight means you are attracted to the other gender, homophobic means you hate gay people.
I may get downvoted for ruining the mood, but I think those hand gestures aren't really appropriate (keep reading before judging, it's really not what you think.) I get that, thanks to metal subcultures, the gesture has become some sort of "that's cool" and "you rock" signs, nothing wrong with that. However, Vatican is within Italy, and over our parts it's an insult that means "your partner is cheating on you" (that doesn't mean the metalheads over there don't rock onto this gesture, btw). So, within the context in which this image was made, it could be involuntarily insulting to the lgbtq+ community, due to stereotypes of promiscuity, which are wrong, but very present, unfortunately. Btw, I'm not offended, I'm just inviting everyone to always seek out knowledge (and I don't mean god or bible, I mean knowledge, in whatever form). Peace.
This is sad, people shouldn’t have to be in fear of someone hurting them because of what they believe
Shame she couldn’t follow the Pope’s example and foster an inclusive, happy and safe environment for people to thrive in. Go away Ellen.
Also, the anti-homosexual verses in Leviticus were actually because of translation errors- originally they said not to f**k children.
grigori that is the entire point of this post you dumb wet sleeve
I am a lesbian and non binary. I was SHOCKED when I saw this. Just knowing a major figure in the world is standing with us is AMAZING. Thank you Pope Francis II, you will never be forgotten by our community!
So I'm not alone in this world! Mars I also newly figured out that I am a non-binary lesbian! Thanks for making me feel happier! (I'm pine and nice to meet you)
Load More Replies...As a recovering catholic, this makes me smile to the very core. I first started to question the religion in which I was raised when I first learned about the Crusades in school. I thought, "that's horrible! I don't want to be a part of that!" I started to back away slowly from Catholicism and never looked back. But Pope Francis is an exemplary human. He's the best thing to happen to organized religion in centuries. God bless this beautiful man!
That is, make it the list of good news in 2020, and make this the only entry
Load More Replies...I can safely say i have never and would never follow a teaching that will change its core beliefs based on popular vote. The catholic church has no integrity, see the definition. Why i stopped being religious a long time ago. For the record, i dont have anything against the LGBTQ+ community as i fully believe in people should be free to be who they are. I am more anti church that just up and follows popular opinion to keep their followers and thus their income.
So Richard, just for the record - you are on board with the idea that if anybody ever re-assesses their beliefs or positions based upon new knowledge or understanding, they've lost their integrity? Maybe I'm weird, but I think even if you've held onto a belief for a very long time, new information and understanding should lead you to reconsider, and perhaps change, that belief. Do you even believe in learning/growing/evolving new understanding?
Load More Replies...Not offended just curious. Why is the symbol of the LGBTQ community a rainbow? I used to have a rainbow-colored(ish) backpack and stopped wearing it when I found out. Not because I'm homophobic, but because I'm straight. Anyway, please explain what this means?
The original symbol for the LGBTQ+ community was a pink triangle, a symbol used by the Nazis to identify people who were gay. Gilbert Baker didn't want to use a symbol with a dark past as the gay community's symbol, so he decided to use the rainbow instead. You can find more at this link: https://www.history.com/news/how-did-the-rainbow-flag-become-an-lgbt-symbol#:~:text=Using%20a%20symbol%20with%20such,are%20both%20natural%20and%20beautiful.
Load More Replies...My first reaction to this was that this great. But I also don't really think they deserve praise for doing something they should have done years ago. The cynic in me also says that he probably only said it because declining attendances in churches.
Exactly my thought. Those who think that the current pope is "just a decent human being" don't know how the catholic church works.
Load More Replies...Sadly, he's merely a mortal man. When his life on earth is done, the forces of hate will rally and replace him with a repressive pope to undo whatever progress is made. This should sound familiar to Americans as we enter a New Era for the Supreme Court. The irony of ACB being a Catholic is not lost. Good people should still engage, but be forewarned: evil, hateful people won't back down. He's put himself at risk in many ways.
I'm not a catholic and am not particularly religious either but I love Pope Francis and would love to meet him some day. He truly is the People's pope and is the type of person that all religions tell us we should be. I truly hope he has a long and prosperous tenure as the Pope.
Seems to me that a lot of homophobic men actually have gay skeletons dancing in the closet. How many politicians have been caught "toe tapping" in a public bathroom? Using buff young men to carry the luggage? Having young men visiting their homes? Is Franklin Graham really that devout when he likes watching his wife get it on with another man? I'm not good with religious hypocrisy.
I was smiling so hard through this entire post... thank you thank you thank you BP for making my day better!
It is interesting to see how many posters from this article seem to believe Catholics are all either bigoted against the LGBTQ+ community, or mindless Pope-following zombies. People can follow a religion and disagree with portions of it, or disagree with the way some members of their faith express their religion. There are, of course, ultra conservative elements, like in any faith, but there are others on the opposite side of the religious spectrum who see certain doctrines for what they are.
It is at least a start. He has gone against thousands of years of traditions and teachings and would get a lot of hate and confusion from many catholics and other religions. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Load More Replies...But it’s a start. He has gone against thousands of years of teachings. There will be a lot of hate, confusion and backlash from not just catholics but many people of religion. It’s a first step.
Load More Replies...Catholicism is a very very old long standing religion it has been around since, well, god knows when if u pardon the pun. A change like this is a huge huge deal. You cant overhaul every part of the church overnight, or theyd probably eject the pope as "the devil corrupting them" or something. But this change is good, and should be celebrated. Yes there are other changes needed, in Catholicism and probably every other religion, but if we just focus on what hasn't been done then what's the point? Change happens through important steps like these
Load More Replies...I am a lesbian and non binary. I was SHOCKED when I saw this. Just knowing a major figure in the world is standing with us is AMAZING. Thank you Pope Francis II, you will never be forgotten by our community!
So I'm not alone in this world! Mars I also newly figured out that I am a non-binary lesbian! Thanks for making me feel happier! (I'm pine and nice to meet you)
Load More Replies...As a recovering catholic, this makes me smile to the very core. I first started to question the religion in which I was raised when I first learned about the Crusades in school. I thought, "that's horrible! I don't want to be a part of that!" I started to back away slowly from Catholicism and never looked back. But Pope Francis is an exemplary human. He's the best thing to happen to organized religion in centuries. God bless this beautiful man!
That is, make it the list of good news in 2020, and make this the only entry
Load More Replies...I can safely say i have never and would never follow a teaching that will change its core beliefs based on popular vote. The catholic church has no integrity, see the definition. Why i stopped being religious a long time ago. For the record, i dont have anything against the LGBTQ+ community as i fully believe in people should be free to be who they are. I am more anti church that just up and follows popular opinion to keep their followers and thus their income.
So Richard, just for the record - you are on board with the idea that if anybody ever re-assesses their beliefs or positions based upon new knowledge or understanding, they've lost their integrity? Maybe I'm weird, but I think even if you've held onto a belief for a very long time, new information and understanding should lead you to reconsider, and perhaps change, that belief. Do you even believe in learning/growing/evolving new understanding?
Load More Replies...Not offended just curious. Why is the symbol of the LGBTQ community a rainbow? I used to have a rainbow-colored(ish) backpack and stopped wearing it when I found out. Not because I'm homophobic, but because I'm straight. Anyway, please explain what this means?
The original symbol for the LGBTQ+ community was a pink triangle, a symbol used by the Nazis to identify people who were gay. Gilbert Baker didn't want to use a symbol with a dark past as the gay community's symbol, so he decided to use the rainbow instead. You can find more at this link: https://www.history.com/news/how-did-the-rainbow-flag-become-an-lgbt-symbol#:~:text=Using%20a%20symbol%20with%20such,are%20both%20natural%20and%20beautiful.
Load More Replies...My first reaction to this was that this great. But I also don't really think they deserve praise for doing something they should have done years ago. The cynic in me also says that he probably only said it because declining attendances in churches.
Exactly my thought. Those who think that the current pope is "just a decent human being" don't know how the catholic church works.
Load More Replies...Sadly, he's merely a mortal man. When his life on earth is done, the forces of hate will rally and replace him with a repressive pope to undo whatever progress is made. This should sound familiar to Americans as we enter a New Era for the Supreme Court. The irony of ACB being a Catholic is not lost. Good people should still engage, but be forewarned: evil, hateful people won't back down. He's put himself at risk in many ways.
I'm not a catholic and am not particularly religious either but I love Pope Francis and would love to meet him some day. He truly is the People's pope and is the type of person that all religions tell us we should be. I truly hope he has a long and prosperous tenure as the Pope.
Seems to me that a lot of homophobic men actually have gay skeletons dancing in the closet. How many politicians have been caught "toe tapping" in a public bathroom? Using buff young men to carry the luggage? Having young men visiting their homes? Is Franklin Graham really that devout when he likes watching his wife get it on with another man? I'm not good with religious hypocrisy.
I was smiling so hard through this entire post... thank you thank you thank you BP for making my day better!
It is interesting to see how many posters from this article seem to believe Catholics are all either bigoted against the LGBTQ+ community, or mindless Pope-following zombies. People can follow a religion and disagree with portions of it, or disagree with the way some members of their faith express their religion. There are, of course, ultra conservative elements, like in any faith, but there are others on the opposite side of the religious spectrum who see certain doctrines for what they are.
It is at least a start. He has gone against thousands of years of traditions and teachings and would get a lot of hate and confusion from many catholics and other religions. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Load More Replies...But it’s a start. He has gone against thousands of years of teachings. There will be a lot of hate, confusion and backlash from not just catholics but many people of religion. It’s a first step.
Load More Replies...Catholicism is a very very old long standing religion it has been around since, well, god knows when if u pardon the pun. A change like this is a huge huge deal. You cant overhaul every part of the church overnight, or theyd probably eject the pope as "the devil corrupting them" or something. But this change is good, and should be celebrated. Yes there are other changes needed, in Catholicism and probably every other religion, but if we just focus on what hasn't been done then what's the point? Change happens through important steps like these
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