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Cops Accidentally Record Themselves Insulting Domestic Violence Survivor Who Called For Help

Cops Accidentally Record Themselves Insulting Domestic Violence Survivor Who Called For Help

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Queensland Police are facing heavy criticism after officers were caught ridiculing a domestic violence survivor.

The Australian woman shared the painful experience, hoping it might help change the deep flaws in the system.

“You feel like you’re all alone and the people who are supposed to help you are just not there to help you,” said the affected individual, disappointed by the response of the people she thought would protect her.

Highlights
  • Queensland Police are facing backlash after officers were caught ridiculing a domestic violence survivor in a recorded voicemail.
  • The complainant felt intimidated by an officer and later heard them joking about her situation.
  • The police department dismissed the conversation between the law enforcement agents as "office banter."
  • “It just makes me feel like, what’s the point? Why call them?” the woman said.

The complainant said she had called the cops after her ex-partner allegedly broke into her Queensland home.

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    “I made a triple-0 call for a breach I believe was made by my ex-partner, police came over to investigate it,” she told 7NEWS and added, “I had video recordings, security camera footage.”

    Instead of receiving the support she hoped for, the woman in distress said she was left feeling “intimidated” by one of the law enforcement individuals.

    “One of the senior sergeants pretty much stood over me, was quite rude and intimidated me so I asked him if he wouldn’t mind just to stand outside of my home,” she told the outlet.

    After taking the evidence, the officers left with her account of the story.

    The woman, who had sought police help after her ex-partner allegedly breached her home, was left feeling “intimidated” and unsupported by officers

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    The senior constable later called her up and left a voicemail at around 12:47 a.m., informing her that there wasn’t enough proof to move forward because her ex-partner simply denied the accusations.

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    But what happened next revealed the true nature of the system. The senior constable didn’t realize he hadn’t hung up, which led to his conversation with his fellow officers accidentally being recorded in the voicemail.

    “This b—h is going to be like, ‘What the f—! What the f—!’ You are so getting a complaint,” one officer was heard saying, triggering a laugh from the others.

    The senior constable accidentally recorded himself joking about the complainant’s situation with his fellow officers

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    “They can’t say ‘failed to investigate,’” another officer said.

    “Nah,” the senior constable responded. “It’ll be that I wasn’t professional enough or some b——-.”

    They then joked about the woman feeling unsafe, saying: “It’ll probably be um, even your sergeant told you to get out.”

    Taken aback by what she heard, the woman lodged a complaint via email to Southport Police Station. When they got back to her after hearing the voicemail, they brushed off the officers’ comments, saying it was nothing more than “office banter.”

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    “I pretty much just got told that it was just office banter and they couldn’t proceed with anything,” she said.

    The dismissive response left her feeling let down by the very system that was meant to protect her.

    “It’s hard when you don’t have anyone to reach out to, and you feel like you’re all alone and the people who are supposed to help you are just not there to help you,” the woman said

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    “It just makes me feel like, what’s the point? Why call them?” she said. “It feels like that when you’re in trouble that your neighbor is more likely to help you than the police.”

    “It’s hard when you don’t have anyone to reach out to, and you feel like you’re all alone and the people who are supposed to help you are just not there to help you,” she added.

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    A spokesperson for the Queensland Police said the complainant told them she was “satisfied” with the actions taken by the department.

    “The complainant was personally contacted by a senior officer, and an official apology was made by the officer involved,” the spokesperson said. “At the time, the complainant advised police she was satisfied with the subsequent police contact and explanations provided. This interaction was officially recorded.”

    “There was no information provided about whether there would be further disciplinary action for the officers involved,” they added.

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    KatSaidWhat
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd have sold that recording to the newspapers after being told again it was just banter. That's not banter, those people should not have a badge and uniform.

    Spocks's Mom
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    6 months ago

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    If they fired every officer that did this exact thing, there would be no police force at all.

    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good!! Let us start over from scratch with the proper mentality for the job.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they could use those decent cops as the templates for their newly hired—-and emotionally mature—-police force.

    Katchen
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    Lyone Fein
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women have been complaining about police attitudes regarding domestic violence for over 50 years now. Yet law enforcement culture is still so toxic and misogynist. Despite legislation that is supposed to protect victims of partner abuse, police do not fully investigate situations. Did they dust for fingerprints at her home? Did they take his prints? These are relatively simple procedures that can help provide concrete proof of the exact type that they said they needed. So why didn't they do it?

    Undercover
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In this regard police is really useless from my experience. I called the police twice in regards of domestic violence and one count of stalking. In the first case they didn't file a report snd drove the offender 200 m to the train station. He came back 30 minutes later, unlocking the door with the key to our flat. In the second instance I was told it was my problem, because "You took the guy home once". I'm a feminist, but I was so done afterwards, I wanted nothing to do with police after a vicious sexual assaul. No, thank you, I cried for hours in the shower afterwards, but at least I wasn't ridiculed by some 20 year olds afterwards. The policw just terrifies me, and I know there are some GREAT policemen out there. But the faith is lost...

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    Mimi M
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry that you went through those things, and that you were not supported and protected by law enforcement.

    Booster Booey
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my case, I got to work with an officer whose job was devoted to DV cases. My ex got jail time because of that officer. I wish every survivor was so lucky.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What really infuriates me is they didn’t take her word for what happened, but 100% believed the lie her abuser told them! Of f*****g course he’s going to deny deny deny and rely on being able to lie effectively enough to the MALE officers to get them to take his side. Bet if there was a female cop there, the results would’ve been very different. Just because one woman in a million might lie about being stalked or abused—-or raped—-does NOT give anyone license to doubt and dismiss the other 999,999 women’s reports of those attacks or the stalking. That’s Nine Hundred Ninety-Nine Thousand, Nine Hundred Ninety Nine to One that the woman is telling the absolute TRUTH. Those are such good odds that it’s smart to believe every report until, after thoroughly investigating it, you discover if it’s the truth or a lie. Chances are way greater that she’s being 100% honest about what happened to her, and that there’s a bad guy out there they need to catch before he does worse to her, or attacks another woman, and another, and another—-one of whom might be a woman you know, a woman you love, a woman you want to protect from such treatment. But no, the simpleminded who somehow manage to bluff their way into professions they are patently unqualified to be in don’t take into consideration the fact that allowing an aberrant individual such as an abuser or rapist to walk free, through male law enforcement officers’ denial that another man just like themselves could be capable of such a crime, could then put their OWN loved ones into potential danger. They don’t realize that aberrant individuals like that are masters of deceit, who have learned how to draw people in like a spider in a web, completely entangling them, before violently striking at them. Those male officers initially don’t realize they’re being duped, then when they do realize it they’re too embarrassed to admit it, so just double down like the idiot a******s they are. We need to upgrade our police forces, and start replacing all the bad apples with new and more evolved individuals, who truly will protect and serve, instead of overreacting and making things worse.

    Chelsea McKee
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seems like they support him, and the "office" in turn supports the officers supporting the assailant. They were buuusted and they're trying to play it cool. Even if she had dialed the job emergency line, if officers were caught on HER voicemail making fun of her or the call, there would have been discussions regarding the continuation of their employment.

    Marnie
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an ex boyfriend was harassing me and stalking me a year after we broke up. I had been taking careful note of everything. In one email he said, "I feel like I'm becoming a monster, and I'm afraid what I might do." Finally he left three crazy voice messages, with the last saying, "I'm coming over. I have to see you. I don't care if the police get involved." I went to the police in Minneapolis, MN, USA (where George Floyd was murdered) to talk to them. The officer I talked to said, "You need to pick better boyfriends," and dismissed me. I read the Minnesota statue on stalking, and he definitely fit the bill. Also, a judge (when I filed a harassment restraining order) later told me that if what I was saying was true, he had committed "felony harassment" (and as such, I didn't have to pay the filing fee).

    Sue User
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She may have been better off saying " i dont know who came in". Not that she should have to.

    Janelle Collard
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Where do schoolyard bullies get jobs?" "They become police."

    UpupaEpops
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my case, one ended up becoming a special needs educator and the other a psychiatrist. My biggest bully is a teacher...

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    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and they marry nurses - so the dinner table is all about how high and mighty they are

    NONOONO
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    6 months ago

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    NO. its not like that. you bound by law as a police. don't

    Sand Ers
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Just office banter”… That sounds eerily similar to another dismissal of misogynistic comments caught on a hot mic.

    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly this. It starts with "pulling her hair = he likes you" Then not leaving you alone is ok bc he really likes you and is persistant so a compliment. It just gets worse and woman still get patronised.

    Helena
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everytime I read some incel comment about 'if it were real she would've reported it', I can link back to things like this. This is the why

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Office banter", "locker room talk"... they'll use every euphemism in the book before they'll ever grow a damn spine and call it what it actually is: misogynistic bullying and cruelty.

    Chelsea McKee
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lets say... She had called about another issue, animal cruelty, and the officers were caught in her voicemail mocking her? There would be an outrage. Misogyny is not only sourced in men.

    Nimitz
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad was an abusive alcoholic, strangled children, and was also a rapist. When my mom was finally able to take us and run away, she just went to the next town. The local RCMP officers would pull her over and harass her and us. They made vague threats and intimidated her and refused to use her maiden name even after she was granted a divorce, changed it, and got a new license. "Hello Mrs (married name). Seems you're having some issues with your tail lights. Perhaps that's something your husband could take care of for you. Sure would be a shame if we had to fine you for it. It would probably be nice for him to help and see the children he made." They would pull her over for speeding even though she didn't, make up problems with the car, and generally leer at us and try to intimidate the s**t out of us. This was before 911 existed in our area, so when we called the police the nights my dad was at his worst, they wouldn't send a car. They weren't his friends or anything, they were just fellow white men from the same church.

    سارا ناز
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sorry for your Mom's experience as well as yours. I hope you all were able to heal & be protected eventually

    Heffalump
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She indicated she was satisfied because it was a quicker way to get rid of them than 'f*** off you worthless sacks of s***. Talking to you is about as useful as talking to a piece of dog t*** on my shoe.'

    RP
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. The vibe I'm getting is a half-arsed rehearsed apology from the officer and a whole bunch to people looking at you, waiting for you to say 'ok', which you do, because you realise you're not going to get anywhere.

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    WonderWoman
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If she had said anything they would have manufactured something to arrest or intimidate her.

    سارا ناز
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    she's 'satisfied' because clearly the entire department is inept & corrupt at best, so she is satisfied because she shouldn't waste time trying to find a solution with those part of the problem.

    Little Wonder
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah yes, QLD police. The same force that gave a man his ex-partner's new address after she'd left him due to DV. The same force that had a data breach where that same thing happened to several people, one of whom was told to "move house".

    Judes
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw the title of the post and immediately thought "I bet that happened in QLD". They are rotten through and through.

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    RP
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention their record with Indigenous Australians

    Jerome Lenovo
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More and more, police are ennemies of the common folk. No humanity, no empathy. Racists, fascists, anti-woke, masculinists, misogynists, violent morons, choose to become cops, to screw society and bully people. Everybody can see it, governments don't do sh*t. They love to have those bullys to repress people. Sickening.

    Libstak
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "This batch is gonna...?? Seriously, how can any woman believe they are being heard if this is the value placed on them speaking up and making a report, its abominable on every level.

    Guess Undheit
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Betrayal trauma is when those in a position of trust, of authority, of medical care, etc. abuse someone they should have helped. It can be worse than the original trauma. [ https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/betrayal-trauma ]

    BrownEyedPanda
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always thought that when someone is a victim of domestic violence/ràpe, the aftermath is often worse. The victim is assaulted by the police, the hospital staff, friends, family, sometimes even the district attorney's office. I thought we were past this cràp years ago.

    Chelsea McKee
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I literally had a big question mark over my head when they said she was satisfied.

    F
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The fact that I live in qld and this is the first story I have seen about it disgusts me. I heard many stories from a female friend in the police force over the toxic behaviour from male police officers.

    Anxious&Bored Bear
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Across the US, there are a disturbing number of police officers with DV allegations against them who are still active duty with their guns, that they take home every night. Who do you turn to if the police you call for help could be/are also abusers?

    Banopepo
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an officer advise me not to make a report when my ex beat me. He threatened me with cps and told me making the report would come back on my daughter.

    martin734
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, Australia is one of the most misogynistic western country and attitudes like this towards women are very common and deeply entrenched.

    Rayne OfSalt
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The police in my state have never truly moved on from the Fiztgerald Inquiry, where massive corruption and vile behaviours were exposed in the aftermath of Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen's dark reign as Premier. They're just as racist, misogynistic and homophobic as they were then, they're just occasionally better at hiding it.

    Ben Aziza
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of the typical 14 year old bullies. That is where their minds stopped. Shameful and vile.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are probably part of the problem: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-07/police-force-domestic-violence-serving-officers-homicide-truth/103526170

    Helena
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. Don't date or marry military, police or lawyers. Any bump in the road could end your life or your freedom.

    Grimhild
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A long time ago in a land far far away my late ex-husband was abusive towards me. I called the police. They showed up and proceeded to joke around with him and ignore me. I had a protection order against him and he wasn't even allowed to be near me. They took him down the street and dropped him off. I was so mad and scared I didn't know what to do. I had to call them again to come get him and finally I had different police officers that did their job with no jokes and actually were concerned about my mental and physical state.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was right! He thought he'd get a complaint about not being professional and look! he did! And if they didn't bother to fingerprint, check whether neighbours saw anything or have security cameras, then yes, the police failed to investigate. Why? Because they still don't take womens safety seriously when the threat is a current or former partner.

    Id row
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are cops just a$$holes wherever you go? That they just blew her off is outrageous. He should have been suspended and forced to re-train. And if he still acts like a bully who gets off on abusing people, he should be fired and blacklisted from any and all security/authority jobs.

    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is a boy's club and they circle jerk each other to the lowest of lows. It is a group of maladjusted wanna-be's who lack grace and decorum, like a locker room full of middle school boys. I have heard cops think that a woman deserves to get smacked around for "some of their behavior" and they feel perfectly entitled and somehow authoritative about such statements. If it weren't for newer laws in the US where someone HAS to leave the home following a domestic call, the number of murders would be tripled. Cops would tell the batterer to cool down and wait until the wife wasn't so hysterical, and then berate the woman for causing the man to be embarrassed by all this. COPS need to be completely retrained. The old boys club mentality is disgusting.

    Ash
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Studies suggest anywhere between 4.8–40% of officer families experience domestic violence, with some sources estimating officers are four times more likely to engage in domestic violence than the general population (Gershon, Reference Gershon2000; Neidig et al., Reference Neidig, Russell and Seng1992; Russell & Pappas, Reference Russell and Pappas2018).

    Beth Wheeler
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't get anywhere by reporting it to their supervisor. Call the TV stations and light a fire under their asses that way. Demand official reprimands in their records.

    Nina
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why social medis exists. She should have released the recording to every media platform she can find. Disgusting behaviour than needs to be aired for all to see just how rotten these institutions are.

    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then she wouldn't have to worry about JUST her abuser attacking her. Police are vindictive SOBs who truly think they are above the law - because thin blue line - abusers protect abusers.

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    Chelsea McKee
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly this is the best idea. Post the voicemail ✨everywhere✨! I mean if it's no big deal!

    Liz The Biz
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I reported my ex-husband for domestic abuse and violence the police made me feel like I was the criminal. The officer who interviewed me said, "You women are all the same" and implied that I deserved it. He said that my ex couldn't possibly have raped me because "he is your husband". He made it crystal clear that he didn't believe me and even said that if it went to court and he was found not guilty then i would be the one going to prison. I know now that i should have complained or reported the officer but I was so frightened and vulnerable at the time that i believed it. Of course my ex-husband denied everything. I felt like I had absolutely nobody in the world on my side. Not being believed was every bit, if not more psychologically damaging than the abuse itself which had been going on for years. I will never trust the police again as long as I live.

    Nadine Lynch
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great. Now it's not just American cops who are d***s, but Australian ones as well.

    Chelsea McKee
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have more to say, except a bit more concisely: Surely male officers making fun of a victim belonging to a minority group weren't caught on HER voicemail and then ignored.

    Chelsea McKee
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I genuinely believe she has something, and should 100% keep sharing it with the rest of us. Their behavior was unacceptable. Locker room behavior, office behavior, they are MALE police officers making fun of a female citizen after being attacked. Even if she had called about a non emergency issue, their responses would have been deemed inappropriate.

    Orysha
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cops being cops....Silence, on cogne! is a great book about domestic violence perpetrated by law officers in France (I don't know if it was tranlated in English).

    Crouching hippo hidden panda
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well that didn’t have a satisfying ending, could she not have escalated it to higher up? So frustrating

    Jessica Bertram
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    6 months ago

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    ACAB and it being murica, this is a hill i might *actually* die on.

    Jessica Bertram
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And before someone says "bUT iT wAS AuStRaLia" yes. I know. That's why i said ACAB. All means all.

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    Lucas Buck
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe she lives in the States and her chances of being shot by the police are higher than elsewhere? Just brainstorming atm /shrug

    Jessica Bertram
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly this. Thank you Lucas. (I might point out that i was born in Brisbane, QLD, but my parents came back to the US because the racism in Oz was *worse* in the 70s than in the US. Which says something).

    whiterabbit
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    6 months ago

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    Were the cops unprofessional? Yes. But I don't think it goes beyond that. Sounds like she called them then whined because they were inside her house trying to get a report, making them step outside. Which is likely the reason behind the banter making fun of her being a b*tch. Anyone who works with the public is going to sh*t talk some of the customers/clients/patients to their coworkers at some point.

    KatSaidWhat
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd have sold that recording to the newspapers after being told again it was just banter. That's not banter, those people should not have a badge and uniform.

    Spocks's Mom
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    6 months ago

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    If they fired every officer that did this exact thing, there would be no police force at all.

    WonderWoman
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good!! Let us start over from scratch with the proper mentality for the job.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they could use those decent cops as the templates for their newly hired—-and emotionally mature—-police force.

    Katchen
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    Lyone Fein
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women have been complaining about police attitudes regarding domestic violence for over 50 years now. Yet law enforcement culture is still so toxic and misogynist. Despite legislation that is supposed to protect victims of partner abuse, police do not fully investigate situations. Did they dust for fingerprints at her home? Did they take his prints? These are relatively simple procedures that can help provide concrete proof of the exact type that they said they needed. So why didn't they do it?

    Undercover
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In this regard police is really useless from my experience. I called the police twice in regards of domestic violence and one count of stalking. In the first case they didn't file a report snd drove the offender 200 m to the train station. He came back 30 minutes later, unlocking the door with the key to our flat. In the second instance I was told it was my problem, because "You took the guy home once". I'm a feminist, but I was so done afterwards, I wanted nothing to do with police after a vicious sexual assaul. No, thank you, I cried for hours in the shower afterwards, but at least I wasn't ridiculed by some 20 year olds afterwards. The policw just terrifies me, and I know there are some GREAT policemen out there. But the faith is lost...

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    Mimi M
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry that you went through those things, and that you were not supported and protected by law enforcement.

    Booster Booey
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my case, I got to work with an officer whose job was devoted to DV cases. My ex got jail time because of that officer. I wish every survivor was so lucky.

    Tabitha
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What really infuriates me is they didn’t take her word for what happened, but 100% believed the lie her abuser told them! Of f*****g course he’s going to deny deny deny and rely on being able to lie effectively enough to the MALE officers to get them to take his side. Bet if there was a female cop there, the results would’ve been very different. Just because one woman in a million might lie about being stalked or abused—-or raped—-does NOT give anyone license to doubt and dismiss the other 999,999 women’s reports of those attacks or the stalking. That’s Nine Hundred Ninety-Nine Thousand, Nine Hundred Ninety Nine to One that the woman is telling the absolute TRUTH. Those are such good odds that it’s smart to believe every report until, after thoroughly investigating it, you discover if it’s the truth or a lie. Chances are way greater that she’s being 100% honest about what happened to her, and that there’s a bad guy out there they need to catch before he does worse to her, or attacks another woman, and another, and another—-one of whom might be a woman you know, a woman you love, a woman you want to protect from such treatment. But no, the simpleminded who somehow manage to bluff their way into professions they are patently unqualified to be in don’t take into consideration the fact that allowing an aberrant individual such as an abuser or rapist to walk free, through male law enforcement officers’ denial that another man just like themselves could be capable of such a crime, could then put their OWN loved ones into potential danger. They don’t realize that aberrant individuals like that are masters of deceit, who have learned how to draw people in like a spider in a web, completely entangling them, before violently striking at them. Those male officers initially don’t realize they’re being duped, then when they do realize it they’re too embarrassed to admit it, so just double down like the idiot a******s they are. We need to upgrade our police forces, and start replacing all the bad apples with new and more evolved individuals, who truly will protect and serve, instead of overreacting and making things worse.

    Chelsea McKee
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seems like they support him, and the "office" in turn supports the officers supporting the assailant. They were buuusted and they're trying to play it cool. Even if she had dialed the job emergency line, if officers were caught on HER voicemail making fun of her or the call, there would have been discussions regarding the continuation of their employment.

    Marnie
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an ex boyfriend was harassing me and stalking me a year after we broke up. I had been taking careful note of everything. In one email he said, "I feel like I'm becoming a monster, and I'm afraid what I might do." Finally he left three crazy voice messages, with the last saying, "I'm coming over. I have to see you. I don't care if the police get involved." I went to the police in Minneapolis, MN, USA (where George Floyd was murdered) to talk to them. The officer I talked to said, "You need to pick better boyfriends," and dismissed me. I read the Minnesota statue on stalking, and he definitely fit the bill. Also, a judge (when I filed a harassment restraining order) later told me that if what I was saying was true, he had committed "felony harassment" (and as such, I didn't have to pay the filing fee).

    Sue User
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She may have been better off saying " i dont know who came in". Not that she should have to.

    Janelle Collard
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Where do schoolyard bullies get jobs?" "They become police."

    UpupaEpops
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my case, one ended up becoming a special needs educator and the other a psychiatrist. My biggest bully is a teacher...

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    WonderWoman
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and they marry nurses - so the dinner table is all about how high and mighty they are

    NONOONO
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    NO. its not like that. you bound by law as a police. don't

    Sand Ers
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Just office banter”… That sounds eerily similar to another dismissal of misogynistic comments caught on a hot mic.

    Caro Caro
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly this. It starts with "pulling her hair = he likes you" Then not leaving you alone is ok bc he really likes you and is persistant so a compliment. It just gets worse and woman still get patronised.

    Helena
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everytime I read some incel comment about 'if it were real she would've reported it', I can link back to things like this. This is the why

    Beak Hookage
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Office banter", "locker room talk"... they'll use every euphemism in the book before they'll ever grow a damn spine and call it what it actually is: misogynistic bullying and cruelty.

    Chelsea McKee
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lets say... She had called about another issue, animal cruelty, and the officers were caught in her voicemail mocking her? There would be an outrage. Misogyny is not only sourced in men.

    Nimitz
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad was an abusive alcoholic, strangled children, and was also a rapist. When my mom was finally able to take us and run away, she just went to the next town. The local RCMP officers would pull her over and harass her and us. They made vague threats and intimidated her and refused to use her maiden name even after she was granted a divorce, changed it, and got a new license. "Hello Mrs (married name). Seems you're having some issues with your tail lights. Perhaps that's something your husband could take care of for you. Sure would be a shame if we had to fine you for it. It would probably be nice for him to help and see the children he made." They would pull her over for speeding even though she didn't, make up problems with the car, and generally leer at us and try to intimidate the s**t out of us. This was before 911 existed in our area, so when we called the police the nights my dad was at his worst, they wouldn't send a car. They weren't his friends or anything, they were just fellow white men from the same church.

    سارا ناز
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sorry for your Mom's experience as well as yours. I hope you all were able to heal & be protected eventually

    Heffalump
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She indicated she was satisfied because it was a quicker way to get rid of them than 'f*** off you worthless sacks of s***. Talking to you is about as useful as talking to a piece of dog t*** on my shoe.'

    RP
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. The vibe I'm getting is a half-arsed rehearsed apology from the officer and a whole bunch to people looking at you, waiting for you to say 'ok', which you do, because you realise you're not going to get anywhere.

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    WonderWoman
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If she had said anything they would have manufactured something to arrest or intimidate her.

    سارا ناز
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    she's 'satisfied' because clearly the entire department is inept & corrupt at best, so she is satisfied because she shouldn't waste time trying to find a solution with those part of the problem.

    Little Wonder
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah yes, QLD police. The same force that gave a man his ex-partner's new address after she'd left him due to DV. The same force that had a data breach where that same thing happened to several people, one of whom was told to "move house".

    Judes
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw the title of the post and immediately thought "I bet that happened in QLD". They are rotten through and through.

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    RP
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention their record with Indigenous Australians

    Jerome Lenovo
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More and more, police are ennemies of the common folk. No humanity, no empathy. Racists, fascists, anti-woke, masculinists, misogynists, violent morons, choose to become cops, to screw society and bully people. Everybody can see it, governments don't do sh*t. They love to have those bullys to repress people. Sickening.

    Libstak
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "This batch is gonna...?? Seriously, how can any woman believe they are being heard if this is the value placed on them speaking up and making a report, its abominable on every level.

    Guess Undheit
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Betrayal trauma is when those in a position of trust, of authority, of medical care, etc. abuse someone they should have helped. It can be worse than the original trauma. [ https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/betrayal-trauma ]

    BrownEyedPanda
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always thought that when someone is a victim of domestic violence/ràpe, the aftermath is often worse. The victim is assaulted by the police, the hospital staff, friends, family, sometimes even the district attorney's office. I thought we were past this cràp years ago.

    Chelsea McKee
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I literally had a big question mark over my head when they said she was satisfied.

    F
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The fact that I live in qld and this is the first story I have seen about it disgusts me. I heard many stories from a female friend in the police force over the toxic behaviour from male police officers.

    Anxious&Bored Bear
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Across the US, there are a disturbing number of police officers with DV allegations against them who are still active duty with their guns, that they take home every night. Who do you turn to if the police you call for help could be/are also abusers?

    Banopepo
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an officer advise me not to make a report when my ex beat me. He threatened me with cps and told me making the report would come back on my daughter.

    martin734
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, Australia is one of the most misogynistic western country and attitudes like this towards women are very common and deeply entrenched.

    Rayne OfSalt
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The police in my state have never truly moved on from the Fiztgerald Inquiry, where massive corruption and vile behaviours were exposed in the aftermath of Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen's dark reign as Premier. They're just as racist, misogynistic and homophobic as they were then, they're just occasionally better at hiding it.

    Ben Aziza
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of the typical 14 year old bullies. That is where their minds stopped. Shameful and vile.

    Trillian
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are probably part of the problem: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-07/police-force-domestic-violence-serving-officers-homicide-truth/103526170

    Helena
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. Don't date or marry military, police or lawyers. Any bump in the road could end your life or your freedom.

    Grimhild
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A long time ago in a land far far away my late ex-husband was abusive towards me. I called the police. They showed up and proceeded to joke around with him and ignore me. I had a protection order against him and he wasn't even allowed to be near me. They took him down the street and dropped him off. I was so mad and scared I didn't know what to do. I had to call them again to come get him and finally I had different police officers that did their job with no jokes and actually were concerned about my mental and physical state.

    Deborah B
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was right! He thought he'd get a complaint about not being professional and look! he did! And if they didn't bother to fingerprint, check whether neighbours saw anything or have security cameras, then yes, the police failed to investigate. Why? Because they still don't take womens safety seriously when the threat is a current or former partner.

    Id row
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are cops just a$$holes wherever you go? That they just blew her off is outrageous. He should have been suspended and forced to re-train. And if he still acts like a bully who gets off on abusing people, he should be fired and blacklisted from any and all security/authority jobs.

    WonderWoman
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is a boy's club and they circle jerk each other to the lowest of lows. It is a group of maladjusted wanna-be's who lack grace and decorum, like a locker room full of middle school boys. I have heard cops think that a woman deserves to get smacked around for "some of their behavior" and they feel perfectly entitled and somehow authoritative about such statements. If it weren't for newer laws in the US where someone HAS to leave the home following a domestic call, the number of murders would be tripled. Cops would tell the batterer to cool down and wait until the wife wasn't so hysterical, and then berate the woman for causing the man to be embarrassed by all this. COPS need to be completely retrained. The old boys club mentality is disgusting.

    Ash
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Studies suggest anywhere between 4.8–40% of officer families experience domestic violence, with some sources estimating officers are four times more likely to engage in domestic violence than the general population (Gershon, Reference Gershon2000; Neidig et al., Reference Neidig, Russell and Seng1992; Russell & Pappas, Reference Russell and Pappas2018).

    Beth Wheeler
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't get anywhere by reporting it to their supervisor. Call the TV stations and light a fire under their asses that way. Demand official reprimands in their records.

    Nina
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why social medis exists. She should have released the recording to every media platform she can find. Disgusting behaviour than needs to be aired for all to see just how rotten these institutions are.

    WonderWoman
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then she wouldn't have to worry about JUST her abuser attacking her. Police are vindictive SOBs who truly think they are above the law - because thin blue line - abusers protect abusers.

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    Chelsea McKee
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly this is the best idea. Post the voicemail ✨everywhere✨! I mean if it's no big deal!

    Liz The Biz
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I reported my ex-husband for domestic abuse and violence the police made me feel like I was the criminal. The officer who interviewed me said, "You women are all the same" and implied that I deserved it. He said that my ex couldn't possibly have raped me because "he is your husband". He made it crystal clear that he didn't believe me and even said that if it went to court and he was found not guilty then i would be the one going to prison. I know now that i should have complained or reported the officer but I was so frightened and vulnerable at the time that i believed it. Of course my ex-husband denied everything. I felt like I had absolutely nobody in the world on my side. Not being believed was every bit, if not more psychologically damaging than the abuse itself which had been going on for years. I will never trust the police again as long as I live.

    Nadine Lynch
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great. Now it's not just American cops who are d***s, but Australian ones as well.

    Chelsea McKee
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have more to say, except a bit more concisely: Surely male officers making fun of a victim belonging to a minority group weren't caught on HER voicemail and then ignored.

    Chelsea McKee
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I genuinely believe she has something, and should 100% keep sharing it with the rest of us. Their behavior was unacceptable. Locker room behavior, office behavior, they are MALE police officers making fun of a female citizen after being attacked. Even if she had called about a non emergency issue, their responses would have been deemed inappropriate.

    Orysha
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cops being cops....Silence, on cogne! is a great book about domestic violence perpetrated by law officers in France (I don't know if it was tranlated in English).

    Crouching hippo hidden panda
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well that didn’t have a satisfying ending, could she not have escalated it to higher up? So frustrating

    Jessica Bertram
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    ACAB and it being murica, this is a hill i might *actually* die on.

    Jessica Bertram
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And before someone says "bUT iT wAS AuStRaLia" yes. I know. That's why i said ACAB. All means all.

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    Lucas Buck
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe she lives in the States and her chances of being shot by the police are higher than elsewhere? Just brainstorming atm /shrug

    Jessica Bertram
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly this. Thank you Lucas. (I might point out that i was born in Brisbane, QLD, but my parents came back to the US because the racism in Oz was *worse* in the 70s than in the US. Which says something).

    whiterabbit
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    Were the cops unprofessional? Yes. But I don't think it goes beyond that. Sounds like she called them then whined because they were inside her house trying to get a report, making them step outside. Which is likely the reason behind the banter making fun of her being a b*tch. Anyone who works with the public is going to sh*t talk some of the customers/clients/patients to their coworkers at some point.

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