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22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling People staring all the time.

jaebaeofficial , Keira Burton Report

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54points

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Courtney Christelle 2 years ago

People need to remember that manners are free. I once met a cyclops and didn't make a thing about it.

69points

Jae’s incredible personality and powerful statements may have racked up millions of views, but they also deeply resonate with people struggling in a society obsessed with seemingly perfect looks and unrealistic beauty standards. This just goes to show just how absurd and flawed the travel industry is by failing "to realize that the average woman is no longer a size 14," as Jae said in an interview with BuzzFeed. "They are now a size 18 and beyond. Yet as we’ve gotten bigger, things like airplane seats, clothing, and everything else has gotten smaller or stayed the exact same."

To gain more insight into the struggles larger-bodied travelers face on their journeys, we reached out to animator, illustrator, and body positivity activist Stacy Bias aiming to amplify marginalized voices. "From running the Flying While Fat Facebook group for the last several years, I've witnessed thousands of concerns and I've learned that there are some experiences that are shared across the size spectrum," she told Bored Panda.

22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling Not being able to find clothes your size anywhere.

jaebaeofficial , William Matt Report

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53points

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Well-Dressed Wolf 2 years ago

As I mentioned on the "towels" post - using double or triple the material to create clothing that would "fit" an obese person costs double or triple the materials-cost to the company making it. Either companies are going to have to charge more for larger clothing sizes, as they literally use way more material to make them, or the cost of everyone's clothing, including normal-sized ones, are going to have to go up in order to cover the costs of manufacturing clothing sized for obese people.

114points

22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling Chairs with armrests.

jaebaeofficial , Christopher Woo Report

Final score:

52points

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Taibhse Sealgair 2 years ago (edited)

Let's be explicitly clear: @jaebaeofficial you are not the victim here.

102points

Sandra Givens 2 years ago

She isn't playing victim, just pointing out that a lack of universal design in public places can be a problem for those who are not model thin or have a disability.

40points

A. K. Andersson 2 years ago

chairs with armrests can be a hassle for more reasons than obesity, my hips hurt for one, trying to sit in a chair where the armrests even gets close to my hips is painful and means i can't sit down if there is nothing else than chairs with armrests. and because i am in pain i need to sit when i can

20points

Peeka_Mimi 2 years ago

And we have found the fatphobe.

4points

Niki A 2 years ago

That statement was somewhat catty. Even people who are small can find these difficult. She's not playing victim, she's pointing out how this style excludes people. She's not limiting it to larger folks.

3points

Leesquee 2 years ago

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Hassel Davidhoff 2 years ago (edited)

So, I support LGBTQI folks, Black Lives Matter, Labor Unions, etc. I'm "liberal". However, unless the vast majority of the 7.9 billion people on the planet reach a similar size these demands will not be the norm. Expecting it to be so is delusional and honestly quite entitled. I get that in America there is an effort to normalize this, Ron Swanson said it best: “The whole point of this country is if you want to eat garbage, balloon up to 600 pounds and die of a heart attack at 43, you can! You are free to do so.” That is obviously hilarious, however, should you choose to actually do this you'll likely find an early grave. Most people don't want to die young so it won't catch on in any widespread sense. This woman is not oppressed. The seating on the plane, the chairs with their armrests, the turnstiles, not being able to find clothes that fit, worrying about breaking the toilet, all of this, it isn't oppression. She is abnormal. I'm going to catch heat for this, but it needs to be said.

52points

Rob Steenvoorde 2 years ago (edited)

Yeah, I agree. I am quite tall and I also don't fit in most of the airplane seats. I have to pay extra too, in my case to get seating with more leg room. I can't helpt it I am this tall (my country has the tallest people in the world) still I don't feel oppressed. And neither is this women, we are both abnormal. A buddy of mine was born with a muscle decease and is in a harnas and wheelchair. He needs assistance with basically everything, getting in and out of bed, taking a shower, cooking, (un)dressing, he even needs someone to wipe his *ss. He will never be able to travel in an airplane, he also doesn't complain about it. I have mixed feelings about this topic...

26points

irizjoi 2 years ago

yeah, that's too much body positivity. I came across her shorts on yt before and she even needed oxygen tube thing with a tank in order to breathe properly and she didn't seem like she was doing anything to improve her health.

5points

Green One 2 years ago

Just stop eating cakes I guess..

5points

Peeka_Mimi 2 years ago

You do realize medication, disabilities, genetics, etc can cause weight gain? You're the kind of neoliberal that epitomizes why leftists like me can't stand them.

1point

Marghi Merzenich 1 year ago

You know that like, 40% of Americans are “obese”? So she is not all that abnormal. It actually doesn’t need to be said.

0points

Voit 2 years ago

Many older people need the arms to help themselves in and out of the seat safely

38points

Jiminy 2 years ago

People with knee problems are thankful for armrests too.

5points

Lisa Bennett 2 years ago

I don't understand people that come on here just to basically defend her right to NOT be able to travel or exist within the same comfort and style as anyone else because of her size. If you can't give her, her platform to speak ,move on. There's other topics of your interest. Kindness and compassion go a long way, where as ugly words show how unkind people really are behind the safety net of their computer.

29points

Taibhse Sealgair 2 years ago

Nobody's saying she can't travel in comfort. Just buy two seats? If not, then you're saying the person next to her doesn't get to travel in comfort.

48points

AustrianGirl 2 years ago

When I have a bad day I totally need the armrests to get up! Plus most places have chairs without armrests too, maybe not in the exact spot you want to sit, but I have never been in a place where there weren't normal chairs available.

15points

Albert Finney 2 years ago

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Noah 2 years ago

My arms would not fit that chair well. The arms of the chair are too low.

8points

Headless Roach 2 years ago

Tall people have yet another set of inconveniences. I confirm

25points

Christina Natividad 2 years ago

I like chairs with arm rests. I don't get upset when they don't though.🤷🏻‍♀️

6points

irizjoi 2 years ago

I came across her on yt before and I found it disturbing that she seemed proud while trying to normalize obesity. She even needs to use oxygen tube thing (I don't know what they call it) to help her breathe properly. I am overweight and also have asthma but I recognize that I need to exercise and eat healthy food. Meanwhile, it doesn't seem like she wants her health to improve at all. Well, at least she seems happy.

3points

Brandy P 2 years ago

I'm morbidly obese. I can tell you, as a 45-year-old American woman, no amount of shame has EVER made me lose weight. Ever. It's only made me feel terrible on top of having an eating disorder. Yes, I believe all morbidly obese people have eating disorders. We certainly don't deserve to be shamed.

3points

Alessa Gillespie 2 years ago

She's highlighting an issue that affects plus size people, not playing the victim. It's alarming that you don't understand the difference

3points

Taibhse Sealgair 2 years ago

"Things Non-Plus-Size Travelers Hate" Plus-Size Travelers forcing their "Plus-Size" bodies on ours."

1point

Jihana 2 years ago

What a despicable thing to say! You really should be ashamed of yourself.

2points

PandaPops 2 years ago

Ours?? You better be absolutely perfect in every way or learn to shut your mouth when your opinion isn't asked for

1point

Leesquee 2 years ago

I guess my response to y'all would be: JFC, look at how much texting you did for something you don't, in fact, struggle with. Why do you care enough to spend so much effort being condescending, hateful, and showing your inability to empathize IN PUBLIC? Because being 'brutally honest' is WAY more about the brutality than the honesty with you entitled freaks.

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Amanda Louise 2 years ago

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Debby Keir 2 years ago

And armrests for us older ones are a necessity to lever ourselves upright...

0points

Maria Veronica 2 years ago

I feel bad because not being aware of this all this time

0points

ℙ𝕦𝕣𝕣.𝕞𝕒𝕚𝕕 2 years ago

Pov: looking at these comments & thinking, "this world is utterly effed up!".

0points

Pamela Worthington-Smack 2 years ago

The fact that some people are morbidly obese in no way means that others are "skinny." Healthy body weight is not a function of cultural attitudes. Banishing stigma, acceptance of people as they are, and support of those who suffer from illness shouldn’t involve normalizing a grave threat to the health and happiness of millions of Americans. Pretending morbid obesity doesn’t exist is the opposite of treating those who suffer from it with courtesy, decency, compassion, and fairness. ¶ Rather than reengineer the world to make the obese comfortable, we should invest whatever’s necessary to cure an illness that tortures people all their lives before eventually killing them at a needlessly early age. Those who think the solution is to “be nice” should spend some time at the beside of a 350 lb. thirty year old diabetic who’s just had their feet removed. Tell them it’s ok to be fat and listen to their response.

0points

O.M.Miki 2 years ago

really?? but but how big do you want them to make these chairs - what about the people smaller than you- they would just be swaying around in it.

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Monday 2 years ago

Then don't use them? Armrests are very important for the disabled and the elderly. Ideally a location will have a mix of both but it's such an odd hill to die on.

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Burnt Bagel 2 years ago

Ummm…at Highway toll stations or the dump you pay more if your payload is heavier. Just saying…

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Leesquee 2 years ago

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Being the creator of the research-led Flying While Fat documentary animation, she helps travelers make their voices heard by allowing them to share their experiences. And she was more than happy to chat about the infuriating, annoying, and stressful challenges plus-size people face.

According to Bias, anticipatory anxiety is a huge factor that affects folks' emotional well-being when flying — or even considering it. "What individuals anxiously anticipate does vary, but common themes are 'not fitting' and/or being re-seated or asked to deplane, needing to ask for a seatbelt extender and fearing potential humiliation at the hands of a potentially insensitive flight crew, or not having an extender available, rendering them unsafe."

Bias continued that needing to use the airline toilet can also cause dread: "Being afraid of not fitting through the narrow doors or having insufficient space to adequately engage in hygiene practices once inside." Moreover, fellow passengers seems to also be a source of anxiety as travelers may fear bumping or disrupting them "when traversing the aisles, or being seated next to someone who is hostile."

22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling Getting ridiculous comments about being a fat traveler.

jaebaeofficial Report

Final score:

46points

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Lisa Owen 2 years ago

It's not a ridiculous comment when said obese person is literally spilling over into half of my seat .

343points

jaebaeofficial , SuperJet International Report

22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling Always wondering if you're going to "fit" (airplane seats, public transportation, etc).

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41points

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Susan S 2 years ago (edited)

Who thought this would be a good topic?? Non-obese people will be afraid of down votes, while obese people are ether in denial (I'm not fat, I'm just thick), or don't want to come out admitting they don't like having to buy 2 airline seat tickets for their un-accommodated booties? In case I get downvoted to death, it was fun while it lasted (leaving snarky comments). Btw, my profile pic was from before Covid. From the pandemic comfort foods, menopause, my rheumatoid arthritis, and my lower back now needing multi-level vertabrae fusion, I gained 30 lbs, but am looking to get more active once I am allowed to after my fusion surgery. So, I am not sure if I would classify myself as in denial or plus sized yet

198points

jaebaeofficial , Kārlis Dambrāns Report

22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling Tiny airplane bathrooms.

Final score:

40points

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Miria Isah 2 years ago

I feel like half of these complaints completely overlook the fact that there is limited space on a plane to begin with.

260points

"For some at the smaller end of the size spectrum (within fat activism, the relevant categories are 'small fats' or 'medium fats'), these fears sometimes or even often prove unfounded," Bias continued. "For those at the higher end of the size spectrum ('large', 'super' or 'infini' fats), those anxieties are more often realized and are accompanied by physical barriers to access and safety as well."

The fear of "not fitting" causes a great deal of stress for plus-size people, as they often feel pressured to make decisions that would ensure a smooth experience. But sadly, they don’t come without a cost, whether it be financial, social, or wellness-related.

"Some are forced to purchase two seats or to navigate uncertainty in using inconsistently applied Customer of Size policies. And some, in fact, 25% of my research participants, intentionally dehydrate themselves before getting on planes to avoid having to use the restroom and/or stand up and disrupt seatmates or other passengers in the aisle, and both dehydration and lack of movement are risk factors in developing DVT [deep vein thrombosis]," Bias explained.

22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling Worrying you're going to break the toilet.

jaebaeofficial , Eric Lumsden Report

Final score:

33points

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Alison Rafter Sorensen 2 years ago

The amount of fat-shaming comments on this are staggeringly disappointing. I foolishly thought humans on BP were better than this.

114points

22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling Worrying about asking for a seatbelt extender.

jaebaeofficial Report

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22points

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C L 2 years ago

Buy your own and take it with you!

141points

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22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling When the tray table can't come down.

jaebaeofficial Report

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13points

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Jo Cooper 2 years ago

This used to bother me, the little fold down desks on the uni seats too. Then I lost weight…

87points

jaebaeofficial , Hotel du Vin & Bistro Report

The idea that larger-bodied people should be granted the same respect and opportunities as anyone else isn’t new. But the overwhelming response to Jae’s video series makes you wonder why this important conversation is so rarely touched upon. When we asked Bias to share her opinion on the matter, she told us this topic pops its head up once every now and then with a new person going viral with their experiences.

But unfortunately, "the cultural conversation around whose suffering is legitimate and what space people are entitled to when that space is highly commodified is once again held on the backs of fat people with no meaningful change at the end."

"It tends to bring on haranguing abuse from one side and supportive comments from the other, but on balance, there's been no measurable movement in creating safer and more equitable travel for passengers of all sizes and abilities," the activist added.

#11

22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling Restaurants that don’t have seating options for plus-size people.

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6points

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Well-Dressed Wolf 2 years ago

Downvote me into oblivion, but I will die on this hill: most of the time, obesity isn't a disability in the same way that cerebral palsy is. Or being paralyzed, needing a wheelchair due to spinal/brain damage, only having one leg (or none), birth defects, having had a stroke or injury that results in brain damage, being blind, etc. Many of my family members are morbidly obese, and none were born that way. All of them became obese due to over-eating. While it's not always their FAULT that they became addicted to food, it's their responsibility to lose weight. It is not the world's responsibility to make everything accommodating for obese people. I've struggled with drug addiction, so I KNOW what addiction is like and how hard it is to change and get healthy. But saying it's a "disability" that you can't help or change is absolutely untrue. (Final disclaimer: yes, there are medical conditions that cause obesity without massive caloric intake. Most obese people are not obese due to that.)

449points

jaebaeofficial , Taber Andrew Bain Report

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22 "Plus-Size Travel Struggles" Skinny People Don't Have To Worry About When Traveling Bunk beds.

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5points

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Susan S 2 years ago

Are bunk beds in the list because plus sized people are complaining about not being able to use the top bunk??

82points

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Frank S 2 years ago (edited)

I’ll say it…I’m all for body positivity, and I am fully aware that there are, at times, legitimate health issues (mental and/or physical) that cause obesity. We have to be honest though, there must be a point at which we temper our support by also saying that it is in no way healthy and should not be celebrated for the people that fall outside there being actual medical reasoning behind the obesity. Yes, it’s a grey area, a very broad one, and it’s complicated, but we shouldn’t just throw blind support and celebration behind people without acknowledging hard truths when necessary.

285points

Sandra Bollox 2 years ago

Most people are just fat. No excuses. 80% of their medical problems would go away if they lost weight. (From me, an overweight person.) yes thyroid and fluid edema etc. but MOST people are not fat for those reasons. To back you up, fat and the way we treat others should not go together. Everyone should be treated with respect.

152points

Lizz Lor 2 years ago

Your weight is actually largely genetic. (From me, a formerly morbidly obese person who is now mid-sized). For many obese people no amount of healthy diet & exercise will make them a healthy weight ....sure they could disorder eating and excessive exercising their way to a lower weight but that isn't healthy or sustainable.

0points

alias D. 2 years ago

Well said Indeed we cannot cater to every shape and form of humanity just because one man has 12 foot long legs does not mean we should cater to them everywhere in the world same thing applies to other people with less extreme examples I’m not saying that we should shame them for it I’m just confused on how they think that this could be warranted as.

32points

Autumn 2 years ago

Honestly, I agree with you. It is a coping mechanism for some people, and I get that, but being obese could cause health issues, and that's not something to be positive about.

17points

Izzy Jeanette 2 years ago

well said

9points

Adrienne Doyle 2 years ago

So true, I recently experienced the issue with the tray table not coming down, but I got diagnosed with an ovarian cyst that was causing my abdomen to swell like that. Once I get that removed, my abdomen will go back down to what it was.

8points

iseefractals 2 years ago

That's the problem with body positivity though. It's become increasingly difficult to acknowledge the cause and consequences of obesity without having a whole bunch of people chocking it up to "YOU"RE SHAMING ME" No one should feel bad about themselves because they don't look like a model or movie star who has access to a nutritionist, trainer, and most likely steroids. But there's a far cry between being ok with having an extra 20-30 pounds, and pretending that there isn't any cause for concern, or that you have no responsibility for being 100+ pounds overweight. If you're aware of all the health risks associated with being morbidly obese and you don't care, that's up to you, it's no one else business. But don't try to pretend those issues aren't there, don't try to normalize it in a way that puts others at risk.

6points

Tunk 2 years ago

May I remind some people that they are overlooking that certain medications can and do make people obese and is a known side effect.

3points

Claire Elise 2 years ago

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Simone Wagner 2 years ago

Coming from an obese person, the world doesn't owe you anything just because you eat yourself into obesity.

231points

The Problem With Censorship Is ******* 2 years ago

THIS.

53points

Alexandra Davis 2 years ago

You should write a list about traveling when being in a wheelchair! It's harder than this list and we can't do a single thing to be none disabled yet 99% of obese people can make steps to losing weight. Yes I know some people are obese because of medical reasons but the vast majority of obese people can lose weight by eating less/ eating better/ moving more. People can choose to be whatever size they want, but if they are overweight because of a none medical issue then I'm sorry I have little sympathy if they struggle with the above- when they have a way to stop it being an issue.

119points

karen snyder 2 years ago

Thank you for commenting, I came looking for someone else recognizing that accommodations while traveling are way worse for folx with disabilities. They can't or won't accommodate for persons in wheelchairs, people who are blind or even people who are over a certain height. To accommodate the morbidly obese, before fixing other discrimination, would be a slap in the face. I wonder if this woman has ever been asked to ride in the cattle car of a train, because that's how many train networks handle a paid passenger in a wheelchair.

41points

digitalin 2 years ago

That sounds like an excellent idea for an article. It would be very informative and eye-opening. I'd love to read it.

12points

Fat Harry 2 years ago

Spot on. I'm not disabled, but I spent two months on crutches with a broken ankle and it was the inconvenience that was far more annoying than the pain. People who don't just get better, as I did, have my complete sympathy. My problem was trivial compared to what some people face every day through no fault of their own, and to see people trying to equate obesity with disability is infuriating. Obesity is (usually) self inflicted.

4points

Sergio Bicerra Descalzi 2 years ago

I don't know... feel a little hesitant about this. I get tall people have similar struggles in flights, toilets, clothing, etc, but they have no choice. My brother is about 270 pounds (120 kg) and about 6'1 feet tall (1.85 mt) and he chooses to be overweight. Even got to the gym so he could eat more. What i'm going to is that, unless you have a condition, being morbidly obese by choise is not rational at all, cause you'll have to adapt to a world suited to certain sizes, not the other way around. Sorry if I sound insensitive, cause I know food can be a coping mechanism to some people struggling with trauma, but just makes no sense to me for you to became a burden to yourself. It's isn't just starving to death, takes a lot of work to get into a more healthier diet, but try to make an effort, is not near good to use oxygen just to walk around or have open scalds around your thights every time you walk. Please take care of yourself a little better, not for others, but for yourself.

69points

Shane S 2 years ago

The sad irony is that in order to lose weight, people need to exercise which means they need oxygen to walk around and will end up with raw, irritated thighs.

9points

Deborah Rubin 1 year ago

You won't have to worry about your bother much longer. chosing to be obese is going to catch up to him. Best he bitches about people not adapting to him.

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The Queen Of Upper Butt Crack 2 years ago

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Izzy Jeanette 2 years ago

I see bored panda chose to leave out the comments from tiktok that are more negative. I understand body positivity is an important movement and I fully support it! However, my only concern is when being an individual's weight gets to a number where the person's health is at a significant risk due to increased risk of heart issues and other problems.

49points

Miria Isah 2 years ago

Bored Panda seems to do that a lot lately. Very one-sided posts/threads. Like with this one, there is an actual health risk involved. Advertising that obesity is fine (when it is not) can lead to a lot of health risks/fatalities.

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Lee 2 years ago (edited)

I think BP just knew she'd get more than enough hate from its own audience. They didn't need to add more. I wish people would stop acting like it's concern for people's health than makes it okay to judge. If people had been less "concerned" about me growing up I probably wouldn't still be struggling with certain things. Telling a teenager with POCS that she doesn't have a boyfriend because she's fat, and she's fat because the demon of gluttony lives in her won't help, but it WILL add mental issues to the physical issues you're just SO DAMN "CONCERNED" about.

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Miria Isah 2 years ago

But telling them that everything is fine with being obese is also wrong and can lead to even worst obesity since the person doesn't think that it is unhealthy. I don't think that people should be very rude about it but most of the time even when stating a medical fact, fat people get very defensive. They need to start working on themselves and if no one is concerned for them, they will never get to it. Some actually listen and get better. Also by that logic, like another commenter mentioned before, if we don't need to be concerned about obese people, we don't have to cater to them either.

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AndyR 2 years ago

And then there's the risk of not being able to have surgery when the health issues kick in.

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Brazen 2 years ago

Why is someone else's weight "your concern"? This is what baffles me when most people talk like this. Do you say things like that about underweight people too, or are fat people the only ones you aim your "concern" at?

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Leesquee 2 years ago

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The Problem With Censorship Is ******* 2 years ago

As a former obese person, I just CANNOT get on board with this "body positivity" business, no matter how hard I try. I've been obese pretty much all my life, and I KNEW that wasn't the way it should be, that it was an unnatural state to be in. The last thing I would have ever wanted was for the rest of the world to cater to my inconveniences, because I was the one who was responsible for them, and no one else. I finally lost 42 kilos last year (only 5 to go!), and I can wholeheartedly say that I finally feel fully human now. Even when I was still obese I couldn't get on board with this positivity c**p; it feels forced, and to be honest, like a massive joke.

41points

cugel. 2 years ago

I lost 34 kgs about 13 years ago, and have weighed the same ever since. Simply a matter of counting calories. It really does make you feel better about yourself.

6points

Miria Isah 2 years ago

That is great that you feel better and are more healthy! Good for you!

3points

Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

Life is hard for almost every human being. I applaud you for doing something to make your life better!!

1point

Panda Tank 2 years ago

As an engineer we learn to solve for the 80%. Often times it’s impossible to solve for 100% of the problems. Air planes for example. What’s more important, passenger comfort, or passenger safety? If we start making aisles and seats and bathrooms larger, we have to make the entire plane larger, which means more fuel/fuel consumption. It means larger planes overall. I’m not an aerospace engineer but that sounds like a lot of problems to solve for a smaller population. Not to mention the economics of replacing an entire fleet of planes for the sake of comfort. I’m all for body positivity, but I’m also for people advocating for themselves. If you know you are afraid to fly, or it’s uncomfortable, find an alternative. Don’t wait in the world to solve your problems for you.

39points

Albert Finney 2 years ago

"for a smaller population"

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YukiChou 2 years ago

As someone who gained 3* her weight due to antidepressants and antipsychotics the comments on this posts are disheartening. I walk 8500-9500 steps per day, workout 30 minutes per day. Work full-time, have a family that needs my care and attention, plus volunteer work, I don't see what more I can do to not gain weight. Stopping my medication? The weight will melt from my body, but I would loose my family, my job, my drivers license, probably go psychotic or become so suicidal that I truly end life. With my medication I stay what is generally called "normal".

37points

Caro Caro 2 years ago

Yuki, don't stop your medication. You're doing fine and all you can do. Please don't take the nasty comments to heart. HUGS.

28points

Loki’s Lil Butter Knife 2 years ago

Thank you for sharing, Yuki. That is such an important point. I think some people here are failing to mention that significant weight gain can be an unwanted side affect of medications and illnesses. I have a friend who won her battle with cancer but the cocktail of medications they have to take causes significant weight gain. They want to exercise like they use to, but to much activity aggravates their condition. It’s really a double edge sword for them. Take their medications and gain weight to help alleviate the pain from how cancer damaged their body or go off their meds and have their body ravaged. Yuki, if people make fun of you they are truly heartless and lack empathy. You are amazing and “normal” is an idiotic term that no one truly is.

15points

Lee 2 years ago

No. Please do not stop your medication to look "normal". This is why these pages are a massive catch 22. So many people think they have the right to be rude about heavier people because the outcome is something they can see. If they can see it they can judge you. Your friends, family, life in general is FAR more important than whatever these people here say.

10points

BirFromHH 2 years ago

Of course you should use your medication then! But If you are obese, you should accept that as well. Like another post said: in a wheelchair you face somewhat more problems, so these are now your health limitations. Does ist not make you angry that so many people willingly accept your limitations just for more eating?

6points

Rachel Ainsworth 2 years ago

You sound very busy. I hope you get to take some time for yourself to do things that make you happy.

5points

Leo Domitrix 2 years ago (edited)

Yuki, you're focused on *health* ---- the exercise is a huge help to your body,r egardless of the effects of the medication. Many medications can cause horrible weight gains, but people can't do without the medication. Health first! :-) And you're walking, you're working out, you're doing a lot with your life. Don't be down on yourself. People just have no idea what could be the cause of a person's weight issues, and need to STFU. HUGS. from an MD

4points

April Stephens 2 years ago

Thanks for sharing, YukiChou. You're doing the right thing. Your comment makes me think, what does the number of someone's weight matter if they're able to live such a full, active life? The picture of the lady hiking with flip flops and an oxygen machine makes me think that you and her might not be in the same health/activity level category. I mean, it sounds like you are more active and better off. So everyone's comments regarding her don't necessarily apply to you. Anyway, you have support and a virtual hug from me. 💐

2points

Dianellian 2 years ago

If you are doing everything as you say above you are doing it right except you don’t mention your diet. I’m guessing you’re too busy to cook healthy meals so eat a lot of take away? Don’t stop your medication, especially without doctor supervision but perhaps look at the foods you’re putting in your body.

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cugel 2 years ago

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Mat Hall 2 years ago

My response to a lot of these is along the lines of "yeah, I guess that sucks for you, but what exactly do you expect anyone to do about it?" There's not a lot of room on planes due to, well, the size of planes. Clothing manufacturers/retailers shouldn't be expected to produce/stock clothes for every conceivable body size or shape - from a practical and economic standpoint it makes no sense. I'm tall - not freakishly, but enough that I'm an outlier - and have trouble finding clothes that fit, public transport is awkward, sinks and countertops are all too low causing me chronic back ache from bending down, I am prone to hitting my head on things, but I don't expect the entire world to reconfigure itself to accommodate me - there's a point where making stuff fit *me* better means it'll fit the majority of people worse. If you're overweight and it's causing you difficulties, maybe don't blame the world, maybe consider losing weight instead? At least you have that option.

25points

guyx23 Premium 2 years ago (edited)

Yeah this has nothing to do with "body positivity". She's not "plus sized" or chubby or even fat - she's morbidly obese. Hard truths need to be dealt with, not sweeped under the rug.

21points

indiecognition 2 years ago (edited)

People claim they want obese people to lose weight for their health and wellbeing. Then they proceed to spew cruelty and contempt, making it very obvious that they never cared about people's wellbeing in the first place. You can wish better for someone, and still treat them kindly.

21points

Loki’s Lil Butter Knife 2 years ago

Well said! I think one of the main points that a lot of commenters are failing to mention is the unwanted weight gain and extreme fluctuations in weight that some medications used to treat chronic illnesses or treat mental health problems cause. I have a friend who won her battle with cancer and a younger cousin who received a heart transplant and are on very potent cocktail of medications to alleviate symptoms. However, many of these medications cause water weight gain and drastic fluctuations in weight. Someone who is battling a horrible disease shouldn’t be stigmatized because their treatments cause weight gain. This is why I’m really working on being less judgmental.

11points

Shane S 2 years ago

I want wider airplane seats because I hate it when my neighbor is touching me. And it’s not a size issue. Some people just have no sense of personal space. I don’t want your sweaty flesh pressed up against me for 2 hours. I understand a larger person sometimes can’t help it, but the airline or plane manufacturer can.

21points

Impetus 2 years ago

I sat in between two men in a flight once and I didn't have an armrest then either.

0points

Nico 2 years ago

Get yourself a business class seat. Economy is cheap for a reason.

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BirFromHH 2 years ago

Take two big cardboards with you and stick them left and right from you next to the armrest. You won"t have an armrest, but you won't touch other people. I do this in every flight, ist IS the cheapest option for that problem really. Besides: of course the Airline DOES help it: they offer business class. Instead of complaining, just book that and don't Tell them to abandon my cheap Economy seat!

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Daycare Attendant Sun 2 years ago

I'm all for body positivity. However, I will not accept that someone chooses to stay at an unhealthy weight and expect the world around them to change. For most, it's something you can change--never mind genetic issues, diseases, etc--it's not your height or something that cannot be changed or "fixed".

16points

Little Wonder 2 years ago

It's not always a choice, which is a point I keep trying to make to the "calories in calories out" crowd. Some people are overweight because of their choices for sure, some don't have control over the weight they carry and come kindness and compassion aimed at *everyone* would go a long way.

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Bouche Clay 2 years ago

I am also morbidly obese. I have the same issues the OP does. I can barely walk, and have difficulty breathing. I have diabetes, congestive heart failure, hypertension, lymphoedema, and several other serious health issues. I've had most of these conditions most of my adult life, even when I was of a fairly normal weight. Would losing weight significantly improve my medical conditions? Yes. Would losing weight cure my medical conditions? No. I'm unable to walk more than the length of my house. I have serious breathing problems. I cannot exercise. I think the only chance I have to lose weight is by surgery. Why haven't I gotten the surgery? I'm addicted to food. I'm very afraid that I'd go right back to pushing my stomach into either pulling out the stitches or growing even larger. Do I deserve to be catered to? No. Do I deserve to be fed, clothed, and housed to the best of my ability? Yes. Do I deserve to have access to the world? Yes. Do I deserve to me hated on? No. Do I deserve to be told I'm destroying my body? Why do you want to tell me this? Don't you think I already know? Do I deserve to be called ugly, lazy, or disgusting? I feel ugly, always have. I'm pretty lazy, yes. It's just too damned hard to move, and I have to force myself to try. Yes, I know I'm disgusting. Every time I see any part of myself, I'm disgusted. Will your telling me these things help? No. Do I hate myself? Absolutely. I feel like Shelob. I am very grateful to the few people who can see past the rolls of fat to see me. I am still in here. I just feel completely helpless and worthless. Would losing weight help with my mental state? Yes. Do I need you to tell me this? No.

15points

Albert Finney 2 years ago

Well you're more self aware than the vast majority of people I've ever met, me included.

7points

Islandchild 2 years ago

Okay, as a fat person who falls in the morbidly obese category, let me say that many of the things listed as 'fat people hate' are self-inflicted problems, unless the person has a medical condition. (Narrow aisles, chairs with arms, plane seats and bathrooms, chub rub). Embarrassed to ask for a seatbelt extender? Carry your own, they're easily purchased online. Restaurants often can accommodate if you ask. Places without accessibility? Frustrating but that's life.

12points

BordestPanda 2 years ago

Christ, this thread is a dumpster fire. Not supporting someone’s choices doesn’t mean you have to be a d**k.

11points

Carol Emory 2 years ago

People that say that obese individuals just need to suck it up and lose the weight need to look up Drew Manning. He trained obese people to get them to lose weight and thought their excuses as to why they couldn't were just whining. He gained 70 lbs with the intention to prove them wrong. He was the one proven wrong. He said the aches and pains along with the depression made it hard for him to even get off the couch. Worse than that, the depression and pain made him want to eat more of all the bad foods because they gave him a moment where he felt good. That's called addiction...and it's hard to escape it. You know your actions aren't healthy, but you do it anyway because it makes you feel good, even just for a little while. And, unlike alcohol and heroin, you can't just give up food entirely...you have to eat. I used to run 4 miles everyday in High School when I was 126lbs. Now I get winded just doing household chores at nearly 300 lbs. It's not all suck it up and do it.

10points

Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

But sometimes it is suck it up and do it. This argument is bull because life is hard for most humans. But some of us choose to suck it up and do it so we can live longer. Do more fun things. Spend a longer life with loved ones. I have never liked working out. Yet I do so because I want to hopefully be around for my daughter as long as I can. Life is hard and sucks for almost everyone. Get some accountability and yes suck it up and make your life better.

0points

Little Wonder 2 years ago

Ah here I am again, being horrified at the hateful comments people have about fat people. Did you know there was a study done but the University of Pennsylvania that found fat shaming doesn't make people want to lose weight - it leads to more weight gain. You know why? Because people who care about their bodies take better care of themselves. Telling someone they're ugly, gross, don't deserve to be in society - what do you think that does to a person's care for themselves? ALSO not everyone is going to be a size 6 with diet and exercise. Genetics are at play for one, also conditions like PCOS, Lipodemia, Hashimoto's, certain medications, lots of other diseases. So, while it might make YOU feel better about yourself to be openly vile to someone because they are fat, it isn't "helping" like you might think it is.

10points

Little Wonder 2 years ago

Here's some info about a different study in the UK - same results. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/11/fat-shaming-lose-weight-study

4points

cugel 2 years ago

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Jessica J. 2 years ago (edited)

According to the BMI, I am in obese territory. However, I am tall for a woman (5'11"), and have more muscle, my doctor says I am healthy as a horse (a healthy one), great BP, sugar, amd so in, but I have had thyroid issues, easily managed with meds, and we discovered a staggeringly low vitamin D level in 2020, so I take a drop of vitamin D on my tongue everyday. Anyway, my point is I have never had any of these issues. The only problem I have on a plane is that have to sit a bit sideways, or my knees dig into the back of the seat in front of me. The bathrooms are fine. It's kind of weird to think that I may weigh in the same ballpark as some if these people, but am proportioned differently. It's easy to understand why BMI is so criticized.

10points

Lee 2 years ago

I loved how most of the BP comments were "just lose weight", and "you did this to yourself" until it came to the part about not being able to hike. Then it was "you're too fat to find a trail that would suit you" and "look at you. Why would you even try it". Is she supposed to lose weight or is she supposed to give up and sit in the corner while thin people have fun? This is why I start to think that when people say that they worry about fat people for their own health they are lying. Otherwise there would be more support when she says she wants to be even remotely active, not "you're fat, why?"

9points

butt soup 2 years ago

1) she said herself that she needs accessible hiking trails & can't find any. accessible hiking trails *shouldn't* be made, they flatten & often pave over nature to make it easier for people to navigate, but it harms the environment. she shouldn't be pushing for people to destroy nature on her behalf, it's entitled & selfish. 2) if she found herself exhausted & unable to finish a hike, or god forbid she gets injured somehow, a rescue team would have to spend time & resources looking for her & bringing her back, which would likely not be straightforward at all due to her weight. if she was hurt, it may even worsen her injury or prolong the time it takes for her to reach a hospital due to the complications of getting her back to civilization. for someone her size, hiking should be a goal to work towards, not a first step on her journey to losing weight. 3) there are so many other exercises she could do that would be safer for her, where she can take a break or stop without being stranded

14points

Deborah B 2 years ago

I don't like body positivity - it comes accross as fake. We're not all beautiful, and not all bodies are healthy. What we need is body neutrality. The expectation that all bodies are accepted. That society should make room for people of all sizes and abilities and treat all people with dignity and compassion.

9points

Brazen 2 years ago

For me body positivity does mean body neutrality instead of people just picking on fat people who they feel less than for some reason. Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder, but how many people commenting on weight in this thread would openly bash someone for being "ugly"?

0points

H M 2 years ago

How is it now politically correct to deny obesity and expect the planet to chnage everything to accommodate the clinically obese? "positivity" is another word for denial. It is unhealthy. And it is plain fat.

8points

Mary 2 years ago

My comment will probably be buried here somewhere and not be read, but I need to vent after reading through half this list... Body positivity movement is NOT about supporting obesity. Obesity is classified as an illness. It IS an illness. Even if you feel fine by staying obese and acting like it's not a big deal and eating more and more is causing problems to your body and organs that you will only find out when it's too late. Original body positivity is about accepting things you can't change or had an option about. Like - my nose is big, but I won't let it ruin my psychology or run to get a plastic surgery for it. - My ears are protruding? So what! I like them! - my feet are bigger than average woman's? I won't get depressed over it... Not talking about medical conditions that can promote obesity. But 90% of obese people HAVE a choice. So don't come bothering me with your "inconveniences" for YOUR choices

8points

LFish 2 years ago

I find all of this very motivating and read it more like a warning label. I wish she would have mentioned the chronic pain one suffers when overweight. I was 50 lbs. over after my second child. The pain of carrying the extra weight was excruciating and my greatest motivator. I can only imagine how physically painful it must be to be morbidly obese. I can't imagine wanting to travel in that much pain.

8points

Himory TheDreamer 2 years ago

I'm obese and disabled. The idea that people are obese because of overeating is ridiculous to me. Me and my boyfriend have been living together, eating the exact same, doing the exact dame activities, still he's underweight and continues being and I'm obese and continue being. I never ate half the c**p "normal" people eat because it disgusts me (pizza, fast food, lasagna, all those things known as fat foods I never liked) and even though I did overeat as a child due to food insecurity and fear of starving in the future, when I was around 16yo I started to struggle to eat. I've had people scream at me to eat, and tough I've never been tested for an eating disorder I'm no idiot and I can clearly tell there is something wrong with the way I act towards food. Food disgusts me, I have to eat without thinking about it or else it becomes impossible to eat, I've lived since my childhood thinking eating and hunger is a defect to be surpassed, the more I see people say I'm fat because I eat the

8points

Himory TheDreamer 2 years ago

the more I want to stop once and for all. And still I'm obese. And still people will acuse me of overeating, of not wanting to lose weight. When am I not overeating? When my family yells at me that I need to eat or will end up in the hospital being given meds that will make me even fatter? I don't understand. I'm not even that fat as this lady, all issuea I even met in an airport where due to being disabled, not due to beign fat. But what the heck am I supposed to do? I can't even walk to do what I want due to my disabilities how the heck am I supposed to for an activity? I've been on a diet for more than a year and my appearance continues the same even if the scale says otherwise (I supposedly lost around 12-14kg). What am I supposed to do? Eating healthy? Already do eat as my nutritionist said, and I have the advantage of loving it unlike other people that treat that like a chore. Not eating at all? Throwing up what I eat? Tell me the y'all, since you love so much to say being fat is

7points

Mike ALIAS 2 years ago

What a hard life. You can choose to have that size, I am almost 7 feet tall but skinny. I cant change that, you can. Unbelieveable to cry about your mess, guess what, towels are to short, clothes never fit, fat people always order the xxl seats and i am sitting with my knees touching my ears in the plane seats, pools are not deep enough, toilets are to low, people are watching, tables are too low, beds and blankets are not long enough etc. I really really can feel your pain 🤣

8points

Demi Zwaan 2 years ago

The world accomodates the average person. We’re not going to make everything big because some people are fat. It’s just not feasable. Very tall people have the same problem, and very short people, and very skinny people and people with unusual body shapes, etc. I mean, fat people at least have an option to change. Being tall or short is worse.

7points

Taibhse Sealgair 2 years ago

But what you're asking for is that people to take responsibility for themselves . But it's easier for them to blame other people.

5points

Kat Min 2 years ago (edited)

I am not obese but overweigth and with a severly damaged ankle and thus limited mobility. I would never DREAM of complaining about lack of accesible hiking paths. There are accessible hiking paths, but of course not everywhere! How could there be? The world does not exist for tourists and we do not have the right to go anywhere we fancy. I cannot climb a mountain, I cannot explore rugged caves, I can't waterski or do anything else that puts a ton of pressure on my ankle. So what? Shall we level all of the world, now so everybody can get everywhere? How about installing a ton of elevators in Grand canyon? Hack roads into every last nature reserve so that anybody can see everything without any effort whatsoever? Oh, and I can't stay in very hot places and in the sun for long. Can someone please build a roof over the Sahara desert? I want to see it and I feel left out.

7points

Eastendbird 2 years ago

I find it interesting that BP thinks you should to refer to people as "plus size" rather than "obese" or "fat" but it's fine to refer to others as "skinny" rather than "slim" or "average size".

7points

Impetus 2 years ago

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Lizz Lor 2 years ago

Being treated as a lesser human being. In the last 18 months I've lost 120lbs. Went from 305 to 185. I am now 'seen' in public... people hold the door for me, people (especially men) give me the right of way, more people initiate small talk, smile at me, etc... Fat people experience microaggressions that 'acceptably' sized people don't. Who I am as a person hasn't changed, my personality hasn't changed, but how strangers treat me in public has. It's really sad to know that people saw you as a less deserving person simply because you were fat. I'm still a size 12 but the amount of skinny privilege I have now is insane.

7points

roz 2 years ago

I'll bet a lot of that behaviour is down to increased self confidence though. There are people who are fat and confident and get the smiles and smalltalk, but if you tried to hide yourself and were not self confident then you're not likely to attract attention.

1point

MidnightSky 2 years ago

Sorry but you choose to eat yourself into obesity and then expect the world to accommodate you?

7points

Ladytron 2 years ago

I'm not sure what the primary purpose of this post is? If its about people judging you by your appearance and lack respect I absolutely agree with you - that's terrible and should stop. Or to highlight issues most people don't think of? Also great, we need to have an understanding to be more compassionate. If it is that everything should be designed to fit all? that's a great ambition but sadly not possible. We can't make everything fit everyone because we all come in different sizes and with different abilities. (But I absolutely think she should be able to bring awareness to her struggles without any hate regardless)

7points

digitalin 2 years ago

I wish I could upvote this more than once.

0points

Taibhse Sealgair 2 years ago

"body positivity advocate" in this case apparently means fat, imposing on other people, and unashamed by their behavior.

6points

RandomHumanBean 2 years ago

Heres the thing. Planes can only get so big. You cant make wider seats and wider isles and bigger bathrooms and bigger everything. if seats get wider, isles get narrower. if isles get wider, seats get narrower.

6points

madbakes 2 years ago

Seats used to be wider. Airlines just want to pack people in for more money.

1point

Piggy Tee 2 years ago

I'm sorry but I don't feel ya. You do not have a fatal disease (in the short run) and it's something you can at least do something about!! Those armwrests are there for a reason, it's not an evil plan to make obese people look bad!! Sorry but I would hate sitting next to you!! I payed for my seat and I don't want to be all squished by you!! Maybe think about how much you are encroaching on other peoples spaces! Book two seats instead of complaining.

6points

Zet 2 years ago

the world doesn't owe anyone anything. If everyone who feels wronged would post something like this we'd never find peace... i am sort, like really short do you know all the things i could complain about because "the world is designed for tall people" here in Europe?.. how i can't find clothes, how i can't properly cook in a kitchen without needing something to step up...how my knees hurt because my feet are never touching the ground while sitting.. how people ignore my existence in public transportation, how i can' reach up the shelf in a store.. how i am not allowed on rollercoasters, how everyone always asks me for my ID... I can't change my size.. you as obese person could actually do something about that... and maybe the struggles get a little bit less bothering... or just accept it and stop complaining?

5points

Aisling Raye 2 years ago

Amen to this! I'm also short. No one is providing me with accommodations to reach things on the higher shelves at the grocery store. No one is making pants that I don't have to pay to have altered. No one is paying for how messed up my knees and back are from wearing heels all of the time so I can be "tall enough" to function. So yeah, I fit in airplane seats and chairs at restaurants but I don't complain about how my feet swing like I'm a small child when I use a restroom. We all deal with our own stuff and I can't wrap my head around how any one particular person gets to think the world should revolve around them (of course I don't think that applies to those that are genuinely disabled but I 100% judge people who get handicapped placards because they're too obese to walk from their car to a store. Maybe if they walked the extra 100 yards they wouldn't be in that situation.)

0points

Bernd Herbert 2 years ago

Look at all these points listed here. If that doesn’t make you loos weight…what will?

5points

Everyone calm down 2 years ago

Lose weight. When did it become necessary for the majority to bow down to the small minorities all the time.

5points

Elaine Morinelli 2 years ago

I really do get this but at some point we can't make adjustments. Probably planes can use the bulkhead row with only two seats. I do know of hiking trails that are accessible but you have to choose those trails. And stores can at least accommodate some of these things but we can't just reconfigure an entire plane. I'm 195 but used to be 325. I'm just glad I don't need the seatbelt extension any more and my butt fits in the seats.

5points

Regina Salmons 2 years ago

Normally the people of Bored Panda are some of the nicest on the entire internet. The comments here broke my heart because despite y’all thinking you were funny; you just emphasized this ladies points. If you are fat, it is okay to point and stare and make all the negative comments you would like. Who would have thought a post about a lady seeking to understand her world and help others understand also would have turned the Bored Panda community into the lowest of the low.

5points

PaddleChica 2 years ago

This was really nasty and mean spirited of BoredPanda staff to post this. This is such a complex topic that I feel has a lot of “grey” area. One thing that I think a lot of people are missing is the unwanted weight gain and fluctuations in weight that may occur due to medications prescribed for mental health problems and other illnesses like cancer. Many antipsychotics used to treat depression, anxiety, and severe ADHD can cause fluctuations in weight and water weight gain. Furthermore, many of the medications to treat some types of cancer or transplant patients also cause weight gain. People who are battling illnesses should never have to be unfairly judged for weight gain due to medications or treatments.

5points

digitalin 2 years ago

I don't think this article is saying that everything needs to be different for her. It's talking about the ways being obese changes the travel experience for her. Whether it's "her fault" or not is a complex discussion. But I'm really annoyed at all the comments here dunking on fat people in general when literally this is about her sharing what her experiences are. You know those #sorelatable things? A lot of this stuff is relatable, and I'm only moderately plus-sized. I fit in an airplane seat, etc. But the towels are tiny, and chub rub is real. Maybe there are ways to respond to these, like bringing a bath sheet or deodorant/baby powder. But are people not allowed to talk about these things without being CONSTANTLY reminded that it's their own dang fault, they're so gross, they shouldn't be that way, etc? There's nothing brave about saying fat people shouldn't be fat. Solutions are when we can listen to people's experiences with compassion and respect them on their journey.

5points

cugel 2 years ago

Solution: Lose weight.

5points

Pittsburgh rare 2 years ago

If you're like Lizzo, twerking and moving your a*s around, be my guest. If you need oxigen to get out of the house you really need to do something. Dunno if this lady is, but most of the complaints were "seats are too small", when l think that's the least of her problems right now.

4points

Dre Mosley 2 years ago (edited)

Maybe stop being so "Fat and Proud" and drop some pounds?

4points

J Adams 2 years ago

It is not the world that doesn’t fit you, it is you that has grown to a size where you no longer fit the world, you didn’t wake up one day like this it happened over time, with things gradually getting harder instead of thinking “oh I might want to change this” you doubled down and got bigger and bigger. You had warnings that your size was becoming a problem but you chose to ignore them

4points

Luthor 2 years ago (edited)

Remember downvoting on this site is for spam NOT because you have a different opinion. Down vote me to hell and get me banned if it means that much to you. But, have some of these people just tried to ... I dunno... not be fat fockers!? I understand that a small minority actually have genetic or chromosonal disorders... but that is the minority. How about instead of whining that the world doesn't cater to your exact sodding fatness you actually come to the realisation that if you can no longer fit on a toilet seat or manage to drag your body through a turnstyle the problem may be you? Sheesh. I have my problems but I dont expect the whole world to tailor around me. If the entire rest of the world doesn't fit your, solvable, issue then perhaps you are the problem? Stop suger coating it. This woman is fat. She could own it (all the power to her) or complain. If you own it you accept that you ain't going to fit and make your own adaptions. If you complain you fail to recognise that you are the problem. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

4points

Izzy Jeanette 2 years ago

Yeah guys, just remember, no matter our difference in opinions, the downvote should only be used for when people are using hate speech or they are bots as this does get people banned!

2points

Traveler Mind 2 years ago

I hope you are also trying losing weight while doing all of these travels. Obesity is dangerous

3points

Sonia Ward 2 years ago

So here's a question. If being inclusive of extremely fat people is expected as the norm does this mean there is no cut off weight? For example if 1, 10 or 100 people at 700 lbs want to travel by plane then is it the airline's fault for not having facilities for them? Being rude or nasty to anyone about their looks is totally unacceptable but being fat shouldn't be encouraged. In the same way being too thin, smoking, and other life choices that effect your health should not be encouraged.

3points

Brazen 2 years ago

No one is encouraging it...we're just saying stop pretending to be concerned for people you don't know. Someone's weight is not something that should be ridiculed by others, whether they are thin or big.

-3points

Edgar 2 years ago

You mean "normal size people". "Skinny" is offending.

3points

Piggy Tee 2 years ago

Buy two seats instead then. I paid for mine and I don't want half of you on it.

3points

digitalin 2 years ago

A big assumption is that weight is 100% due to personal choices or like an addiction. I know a lot of women who are currently struggling with or have come out of addictions. Do you think they don't know that it's messed up their life? Would you tell a former addict, struggling to find a job or housing or getting her kid back from foster care, that she has no right to complain and that her situation was all her own fault? Do you think someone in that situation would "appreciate the honesty", or would she go and confide in her counselor and sponsor that no matter how much progress she makes, people will always see her as a loser first and a human second. Now apply that logic to weight. Even IF it is a parallel case, "honestly" and "helpfully" pointing out their life choices while they are in the very process of addressing them is NOT brave, or honest, or progressive. It is just one more way you see someone as their problem first and a human second.

3points

digitalin 2 years ago

I know I've been commenting a lot, but please have some compassion. Let's assume for a moment that weight is 100% a result of personal choices (which it isn't, but let's set that aside.) So exercising is an important step, right? That means walking (chub rub, supportive shoes that fit, accessible paths), swimming (pool ladders, towels, swimsuits that fit), gym equipment (weight-bearing seats), exercise clothes (that are big enough), and most importantly, ENCOURAGEMENT in fitness spaces instead of derision, are all super important in that journey. So let's not all dump on people when we point out that these are very real barriers! Not that they can't be overcome, but that we can stop blaming people who are trying to exercise for pointing out that there are extra barriers for the people who might need it most.

3points

Cynthia Souza 2 years ago

I'm six feet tall. I can't change that. I accept that there are situations that will be uncomfortable for me, so if I choose to put myself in the situation, I deal with it. No whining, no complaining, and I certainly don't blame everyone else. Fat is not a disability and one should not expect, demand or think one "deserves" anything.

2points

Lillian Swaim 2 years ago (edited)

Now I feel like I need to ask a Little Person their struggles while traveling. Imagine how difficult and unsafe it must be for an adult who is under 5ft

2points

Wren Hard 2 years ago

Yes, and they ACTUALLY have no/ very little control over their size, unlike this woman

1point

Debi Danielsen 2 years ago

I understand the difficulties of being super-obese, I was once too. Hopefully you will recognize the major issue is your health not the inconvenience of being super obese. I had symptoms of a heart attack and was admitted to the hospital. My treadmill study reproduced the heart attack symptoms. My doctor admitted me on Thanksgiving day for a work up with a cardiac cath. He told me if it was positive I would have bypass the next day. Luckily I didn't have blocked arteries but I did have angina chest pain caused by super-obesity. I was 42 and had four young kids. It scared me enough that I dieted and exercised and lost 185 pounds. I don't think we should shame super obese people, but they need to face the health reality of the demands their weight is putting on their hearts and bodies. You may be ok in your 20s and 30s but it will catch up to you.

2points

Gogubaci 2 years ago

body positivity is for people with a real disability. being fat is not a disability, you're just a lazy and entitled brat that refuses to take responsibility for their life choices

2points

Leo Domitrix 2 years ago

We are all of us one bad day away from facing catastrophic metabolic issues that mean we're screwed re: weight/mobility/etc. OK? Brain tumor screwed it up for my mom. I had an accident and gained 25 pounds before relearning to walk. Job loss so you can only afford the cheapest (crappiest) food. Psychological trauma. Reaching a certain age. The day your DNA kicks in and overrides your desires. Just be kind! That could be you! Judge only as you want to be judged ----- with compassion. Or STFU. Signed, a medical doctor, from the US.

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Ollie’s Mom 2 years ago

I'm not a skinny person and I'd like to think I'm fully supportive of body positivity, but this isn't it! The lady is obese, and in my opinion she's promoting unhealthy choices.

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rehanne garvey 2 years ago

This poor lady needs medical help 💔

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Brooke Klein 2 years ago

Plus size & super-obese are NOT the same. This woman needs one hell of a reality check. She is not plus sized, she's super sized & the rest of the world shouldn't cater to her because she can't control her eating habits. Wtf. Buy your two seats on the plane like you stretched your body to need, & don't climb the ladder you couldn't climb down from since you couldn't possibly see the next step past your stomach & sit down like you've been doing.

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frinny 2 years ago

Diet

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Milda Dell 2 years ago

i don't care until they don't take up my space. I'm more pissed with manspreading all over

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Piggy Tee 2 years ago

I know that being obese is usually linked to mental disorders but so is alcoholism! At least they recognize they have a problem and try to do something about it!! My brother is an alcoholic and he's not walking around expecting the society to adjust to him.

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J Nic 2 years ago (edited)

I think it’d be fantastic if every place made larger seats and seating areas. Imagine having more room to stretch out and not being squished in? This is a win for people of all sizes.

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Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

As a builder, I can say that probably won’t happen. Just like airlines most businesses care about that bottom dollar. Building or making bigger costs more money. So you probably won’t be seeing that.

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Kat Sotiriou 2 years ago

I'm sorry but if you're so worried then why not do something about it if you can

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Sm!lez Tub3z 2 years ago

Said plane💀

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Sm!lez Tub3z 2 years ago

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Mrs.Pugh 2 years ago (edited)

Bro, this is literally at -149 points. I would've thought with the kind if community bp is, this would have a million points!

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RMA 2 years ago

A lot of these issues relate to tall people too. Airplane travel is horrible for anyone over 6’, 6’2. This is no longer an uncommon height!

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Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

This was indeed the dumbest post. I get that certain fat people have medical conditions, take medication etc that makes them over weight. I get that. But those people are the vast minority in the obese world. I’m really starting to get sick of all the lack of accountability. If these things worry you when you travel and you have the ability to better yourself, then for farts sake change your life. Quit making excuses and change. And for all the enablers and body positivity activists on this site. Y’all should be ashamed of yourself too. Being obese is not good for your health. Mental, physical or other wise. Stop making excuses for these people. They are killing themselves faster than an average sized person. And for all the rest they will say well Jason it isn’t that easy. So fricking what?! Life isn’t easy. Get up off your asses and do something to actually better yourself. Eat less crappy food. Take the stairs. Go for a walk after work. Do something but don’t give me excuses anymore

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Hey! 2 years ago

I would add to her list: shower in an RV. They are so small. During a Emergency Response we had in BC for nine weeks, someone gave us their RV for that period we needed it instead of staying in hotels, which had all the survivors. They had upgraded that space to put in enough to fit 2. I was really happy (except the toilet no longer had a door. LOL.).

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Mr.Kris 2 years ago

I mean I'm no tiny thing but even I have to conclude that when your extremely overweight (obese) life's gonna be harder in most areas- especially travel. To expect everyone else to accommodate you is rather ...selfish. Im very much in support of body positivity but I'm also in support of one's health and ,as unpopular as this is currently, an excessively large body is not a healthy body. Two beds pushed together? Might break the toilet seat? A seat belt extension? C'mon, maybe it's time to look more at what needs to be done on her side to increase her quality of life (lose weight) instead of everyone else having to accommodate!

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Raccoon Queen 2 years ago

Bored Panda shouldn’t have published this, it’s an important topic but there’s too much grey area and mixed emotions

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Dacă nu pierdeam, câștigam 2 years ago

Honestly, this is a good post to promote healthy habits. Eat good food, not too much and exercise while it's phisically easier to, or else most aspects of life will be harder

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Janet C 1 year ago

Being "body positive" does not mean being in denial. If you are fat, admit it. Then do something about it. It's unhealthy, and as this article makes clear, much of the world is designed for NORMAL-SIZED people (you know, the ones fat people refer to as "skinny"). I am overweight, bordering on fat. I know exactly why. I purged all the clothes from my closet that were too tight, but I am still working to lose weight. If you are fat that is on you (with very rare exception of legitimate medical issues). Here is the world's most successful diet secret that I share with you now: 1. Eat less 2. Move more

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Sir Panda 1 year ago

It should loudly tell them that it's not normal to be super sized. Body positivity doesn't mean promote unhealthy gargantuan morbidly obesity as if it's ok. That's more cruel than just saying they're fat. Now you're encouraging them to die a horrible death.

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Dolma Tour 2 years ago

Thanks for sharing the information

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Wim Cossement 2 years ago (edited)

Lazy fatasses gonna fatass. Eat less (sugar, fat and carbs), eat healthier (twice as much vegetables as meat and carbs combined on your plate is a good rule of thumb, and fruit) and move more. And it's not genetic but the food industry would love to have you keep thinking this way. They also want to keep you thinking that if you exercise a lot you'll automatically lose a lot of weight but the best way is a diet, combined with daily exercise but that would hurt their sales. This post also gives me first world problems vibes, those poor sobs. https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-and-a-genetics-and-weight/#:~:text=ANSWER%3A%20Genetics%20play%20a%20role,may%20work%20best%20for%20you.

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gerard julien 2 years ago

"The most common causes of obesity are genetic factors, poor & unhealthy eating patterns, lack of regular exercises, overeating, poor sleep, busy lifestyles, more time on video games, and less time on playground games. One-third of American children are obese, and the number is rising continuously. Overall American obesity rates in 2017-2018 were highest for adults aged 40 to 59, with the rates being 46.4% among men and 43.3 % among women. Obesity Is a Leading Cause of Death in the United States An oft-cited, yet still shocking statistic is that in the U.S., obesity is second only to smoking as one of the leading causes of death. An estimated 300,000 deaths result from obesity in the US every year, though exact estimates are difficult to pin down."

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MelFunction 2 years ago

Wow. The comments tell me that BP really hates fat people. Sure, they pretend to be concerned for the person's health. But it's really just thinly veiled disgust.

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Tim S 2 years ago (edited)

I'm all for designing things to accommodate a wide range of people. However, people have to understand that it's almost literally impossible to design for the absolute extremes without imposing excessive costs and having to pass those costs on to others. If you're in the 99th or above percentile in weight or height, expect that you're going to have limitations to what you can fit in or through. Although I have no doubt some people act "hostile" towards very large people, the designer of a chair, for example, most likely is not being hostile, they're being practical.

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GlitterQueen541 2 years ago

WOW the amount of anti-fat comments in this article makes me sad. BP is usually not the place for all the vitriol, but this really shows the character of some people.

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Bethany Heller 2 years ago

I get that worrying whether you'll fit into airline seating isn't pleasant, but it's not like the person on the seat you use as overflow is any more comfortable with the situation

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El Dee 2 years ago

We SHOULD be body positive and no one should feel pressured to lose weight or have a certain look. BUT - if your weight is impacting your health to the extent you can't work or it will significantly shorten your life span then that's too much. You would probably find that spaces made for the average person won't fit. And to be fair if you are waaaaay over weight to that extent then it's not really the fault of an airline etc..

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Fat Harry 2 years ago

Sorry, but the solution here is: lose weight. Yes, for a TINY fraction of people, being obese is genetic or medical. But for the VAST, VAST majority it's simply eating too much and exercising too little. Want to fit in a normal seat? Lose some weight.

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Abner_Mality 2 years ago

Wow, fairly surprised at the amount of hate spilt out in this!! How about some Fn empathy? I'm 280lbs, but my size issue is being 6-4 with a 39in inseam, so tall with normal legs... So even the big and tall shirts don't fit correctly. Most of what's listed here applies to me too, but no amount of diet will make me shorter or my shoulders less broad (54 in [137 cm] chest). BTW, 35+ countries and counting.

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PandaRave 2 years ago

Omg this page got absolutely trashed lol

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Germán Martinez 2 years ago (edited)

if u need more space to do anything it's not my or our responsabillity or fault. Do things that you can do. If i have a restaurant and want to buy design chairs with armrest and not a supersize chair, i'm going to do it. The world doesn't have to adapt at you.

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Meh 2 years ago

I really don't know what to say about this. I'm completely supportive of live now you want as long as you're not hurting others. I'm 42 and was a uk size 6/8 most of my life until I started approaching 40. I'm now a size 14 and have joined a gym and watching what I eat, not because I'm vain but because literally every member of my family older than me is morbidity obese and has a huge list of life threatening conditions because of it. They also have carers and or need help from the younger members of the family to push them in wheelchairs if they want to go out. They all constantly complain about the same issues as this lady as well as parking spaces not being big enough in car parks ( for those of them who aren't registered disabled yet ). For every one of them it has been a lack of willingness to help themselves, something I'm trying to do now as I don't want that life and I definitely to have to have family members care for me because of it

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Meh 2 years ago

For the record I don't judge people for how they look, I honestly couldn't care less however surely it's not good to encourage extreme weight at either end of the scale. I'm really not trying to shame anyone big or small like I said, ultimately I don't care, but from a health perspective if you're so big/small you can't do day to day things without help or special requirements maybe try and look at some lifestyle changes.

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PjandBolt 2 years ago

I believe body positivity isn't abt being ok with being obese, it's about loving your inner self no matter how you look, and if you lose weight you do it because you respect and love yourself and you want to keep your body healthy, not because obesity is wrong, ugly, and you should be ashamed

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Klara 2 years ago

just dont be whale size fat....

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Heliocracy 2 years ago

So, being large is inconvenient in many ways. Seems you can either make others change many things in the world for you, or you can change yourself. We all have to adapt, except fat people apparently?

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Chrissyfox 2 years ago

I have fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis (both hips replaced) and asthma. I'm also slightly overweight. Because I choose to use disabled loos and have difficulty with steps and airplanes etc. people look at me and only see the fat bit. I'm working really hard to lose the weight but my other problems don't help. It's a viscous circle.

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Patti Vance 2 years ago

i used to be over weight and it was difficult to travel or visit some placed due to my size. and, when i say overweight i was about a size 20-22 so not morbidly obese but definitely large. it was always a little stressful to try to sit in some places or have an experience in a venue because of worrying about if you would fit. that c**p stays with you because even now when i am "more normal" size i check things out. the sad truth is the world caters to the "variables" of norm. if you are too short/tall/fat/etc there are going to be trying times.

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Sathe Wesker 2 years ago

Breakfast: pudding or yogurt Twice a day: 5 oz of fish and a cup of vegetables As much wine as you’d like. This is from Matthew McConaughey on how he lost so much weight for his role in “Dallas Buyers Club”… I’m aware, not everyone is the same but portion control and simply eating the right foods is the right steps to take. As a few people mentioned food can be an addiction… I understand addition all to well. It’s up to the individual themselves to change it, not the world around them.

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Brandy P 2 years ago

I'm obese. I should eat better and I don't. I have tried to maintain weight loss for most of my life. It's not worked out for me. But go ahead, judge me. But I wonder, even if it is 100% choice - and I suppose purely semantically speaking it is - is there nothing in your life you should change and aren't? I'll wait.

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Pieter LeGrande 2 years ago

A plane I was on was carrying a large contingent of rugby players from some South Pacific nation. These guys were huuuge. The plane seats were arranged in threes. Each row of three seats had two guys and even then it was a tight squeeze. Must have been real uncomfortable, and how did the seatbelts work?.

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Ivana Bašić 2 years ago

Someone want to make a list of things people "struggle" with to maintain a healthy weight? Like not eating everything we might like, skipping a nap for a walk, etc.? Some of these people have medical issues and there's little they can do. For most, though, it's about choices. I live with an obese person and no, we don't eat the same things or amounts, we don't spend our Sundays the same way, so we have different results. They did have it under control for a while, but decided not to put in the effort anymore. Well, those decisions came with consequences. Want different results, make different decisions.

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John K 2 years ago

No. Not everyone deserves to travel comfortably. If I take my f350 to England and gouge out half the country because of the small roads am I to blame them for not accommodating my fat a*s truck? No, that's f*****g stupid. I'm pudgy af. We fattys don't deserve s**t. It's literally our fault. I love starch. I love grease. I'm not gonna ask anyone to submit to my s**t lifestyle because I can't control myself. F*****g piggy b***h

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Izzy Curer 2 years ago (edited)

Everybody in my family has always been overweight, except for a few of the cousins and myself. Those of us who are of normal weight get treated like we're anorexic, and our weight gets picked on and commented upon more than anybody's. Growing up, this meant that the fat-body was the norm, so I never noticed it in other people, and still don't unless it gets pointed put. I'm socially anxious and barely ever look at anybody, anyway. My only prejudice towards 'fat' comes from noticing that larger women tend to act hateful toward skinny women, because they think the skinnies are out to judge them. For me, it's like, 'Well, I wasn't even looking at you, but I am now if you're going to be mean about it.' I'm trying to say that this wasn't something I was taught, it's a wariness I've developed over time as an adult. I know it's not all larger individuals, but when meeting someone new like that, I find myself hesitating and thinking 'are you going to be nasty to me?' until I know them better. I wish this sort of attitude among larger women wasn't a thing, because it's just perpetuating itself. I don't care what you look like. Most people don't. All I care about is how you treat me. If you act nice, I'll do the same. I think most skinny-to-average women feel the same way I do about this. I've heard others say similar things. And if any a smaller woman has ever been mean to larger woman because of her weight, let me apologize on her behalf so we can all just move forward. You're fine, you look great, but more importantly, I don't care.

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Tamara Moxham 2 years ago

We can absolutely talk about health and wellness without fat-shaming (looking at you Bill Mahar). We can be honest about the anatomy, physiology, and chemistry of weight without Septa Unella walking behind with her bell. There is a concept in Deaf culture called "Deaf Gain". It means that practices/technology specifically for the Deaf, Hard-of-hearing, and deaf-blind communities benefit all of society (e.g. closed captioning). Making public space furniture large enough for what is numerically normal now will benefit everyone. The reason First Class on airplanes is so mellow is not because they are more cultured. It's because there is elbow room.

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Inclusion2020 2 years ago

For everyone saying that people choose to be obese… and just being plain vile in the comments. Many people didn’t choose obesity. Just like bulimia and anorexia, binge eating is a formal eating disorder that often requires PHP level treatment for a full recovery. It’s both a self-harm and a comfort behavior… especially if the disordered eating and anxiety/depression are caused by severe trauma….. and it often is. There’s always a reason behind behavior, y’all. No, larger people can’t expect to be accommodated. And at the same time. We as fellow humans can be compassionate towards and contribute to a persons healing rather than being cruel and contributing to that person’s downfall.

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roz 2 years ago (edited)

If you expect us to accommodate your food addictions, why don't we accommodate cigarette addictions on planes/hotel rooms? Downvoters: this is a real question: Where do we draw the line on "addiction" when it impacts others?

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Miss Kat O 2 years ago

I was thinking this too... I smoke, it's my choice, is everyone going to accommodate my desire to smoke now, or do I have to adhere to the restrictions my habit puts on my life?

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Awen 2 years ago

Oh no I've made poor life choices and I'm an abnormal size and don't fit in to standard size things but the rest of the world should change not me because I'm not willing to take responsibility for my choices

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Loki’s Lil Butter Knife 2 years ago

Hi Awen, you do know that weight gain isn’t always quote “a result of poor choices?” Many medications that are used to treat mental health illnesses like depression or serious illnesses like cancer can cause significant fluctuations in weight. So people who are battling cancer or who have received a a transplant often have to contend with the stigma of weight gain and loss. Furthermore, patients with limited mobility due to an illness can’t always exercise as freely as they used which can also lead to weight gain. So please don’t be so judgmental when you say all fat people have made poor life choices.

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Void cat 2 years ago

This list is heartbreaking. The amount of hate.. Its just sad.

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Loki’s Lil Butter Knife 2 years ago

I think threads like this really show the the true colours of some people. Obesity is not a black or white issue like some commenters think it. Everything from living in a food desert to medications are contributing factors. I’m really disturbed by a lot of comments and think that it was pretty dam ignorant of BoredPanda to post it. This use to be a really open site in the past, but now a lot of trolls are coming out of the woodwork. I’m not a fan of the body positivity movement, I much more prefer body neutrality (working toward the body that is good for you), but some of these comments like”stop eating so much” are flat out ignorant. That’s not how it works.

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AndyR 2 years ago

I do think airlines should offer a wider seat option. It's more comfortable for the person who needs the space and fairer for the person who'd be sitting next to them.

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Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

It’s called first class.

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Janet Weston 2 years ago

Stop feeling sorry for your self. Lose weight, and before we hear the I’ve tried but it never works , then you ain’t doing it properly . It’s a simple equations; calories in = calories out . If you put in say 3x more calories than you are burning then you WILL GET FAT. .

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Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

I’m afraid here on this post you’re mostly gonna see enablers saying they can’t comprehend the vile hate speech. I can’t have a conversation with anyone that thinks the truth is hate speech. I gave you an upvote to void one of your downvotes. Most people just seem to not want any accountability.

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Joybug 2 years ago

This post has 57 downvotes so far yet has jumped up to top of list above posts with hundreds of upvotes

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Buggycas 2 years ago

Fun fact! Obesity can and often is genetic, I am OFTEN in a calorie deficit, and exercise as much as my legitimate physical disabilities allow, (I even get excited when I can do more than normal, because it means I'm not hurting as much) but I'm nearly 500, not for lack of trying, and I started gaining weight as soon as puberty hit. My mom did the same thing, started gaining weight as soon as puberty hit.

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Claire 2 years ago

Obesity is not often genetic... Where are you getting these facts from? There were so many documentaries and studies done about obesity and most of it is from poor eating habits, poor food choices and lack of exercise when needed. Take US and Japan -- in US nearly 33.3% of the population is obese, in Japan only 3.6% is obese. To say that 33.3% of the population has a genetic condition which causes obesity is absurd. Also, unless you have one of those rare genetic conditions such as Prader-Willi syndrome, you need a lot more factors such as poor eating habits and lack of exercise to complete the picture and be obese simply due to your genetics.

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roz 2 years ago

It is not often genetic. It is often hereditary, in that bad eating habits are common in families. Obesity is very, very rarely genetic.

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Leo Domitrix 2 years ago

Up to 5% of early onset obesity is purely down to DNA. Sometimes you need the genes *and* the bad habits. So for those who are on Buggycas's case? The actual influence of genes is, in some people, as high as 80%, per Harvard health studies. It can also be as low as 25%. So it's not simple. OK? OK. Now stop being judgmental before you're th one judged, okay?

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Ka Se 2 years ago

So many hate comments. Judging by the reactions, some even feel personally attacked. I wonder what is wrong with these people? Insecurities? Uneducated? The need to feel better than others or to judge? The woman is simply showing her difficulties in travelling. Difficulties that could be solved relatively easily. (No one is asking for everything to be to be adapted to overweight people).

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David Hullinger 2 years ago

You gotta be kidding me. Instead of complaining, make the choice to reverse what you did to your body yourself.

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Zeyno 2 years ago

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Autumn 2 years ago

Honestly, I agree with you. It is a coping mechanism for some people, and I get that, but being obese could cause health issues, and that's not something to be positive about.

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Izzy Jeanette 2 years ago

well said

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Adrienne Doyle 2 years ago

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Tunk 2 years ago

May I remind some people that they are overlooking that certain medications can and do make people obese and is a known side effect.

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Claire Elise 2 years ago

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Simone Wagner 2 years ago

Coming from an obese person, the world doesn't owe you anything just because you eat yourself into obesity.

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The Problem With Censorship Is ******* 2 years ago

THIS.

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Alexandra Davis 2 years ago

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digitalin 2 years ago

That sounds like an excellent idea for an article. It would be very informative and eye-opening. I'd love to read it.

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Fat Harry 2 years ago

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Sergio Bicerra Descalzi 2 years ago

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Shane S 2 years ago

The sad irony is that in order to lose weight, people need to exercise which means they need oxygen to walk around and will end up with raw, irritated thighs.

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Deborah Rubin 1 year ago

You won't have to worry about your bother much longer. chosing to be obese is going to catch up to him. Best he bitches about people not adapting to him.

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The Queen Of Upper Butt Crack 2 years ago

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Izzy Jeanette 2 years ago

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Lee 2 years ago (edited)

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AndyR 2 years ago

And then there's the risk of not being able to have surgery when the health issues kick in.

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Brazen 2 years ago

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Leesquee 2 years ago

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cugel. 2 years ago

I lost 34 kgs about 13 years ago, and have weighed the same ever since. Simply a matter of counting calories. It really does make you feel better about yourself.

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Miria Isah 2 years ago

That is great that you feel better and are more healthy! Good for you!

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Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

Life is hard for almost every human being. I applaud you for doing something to make your life better!!

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Panda Tank 2 years ago

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Albert Finney 2 years ago

"for a smaller population"

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YukiChou 2 years ago

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Caro Caro 2 years ago

Yuki, don't stop your medication. You're doing fine and all you can do. Please don't take the nasty comments to heart. HUGS.

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Loki’s Lil Butter Knife 2 years ago

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Rachel Ainsworth 2 years ago

You sound very busy. I hope you get to take some time for yourself to do things that make you happy.

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Leo Domitrix 2 years ago (edited)

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April Stephens 2 years ago

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Dianellian 2 years ago

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cugel 2 years ago

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guyx23 Premium 2 years ago (edited)

Yeah this has nothing to do with "body positivity". She's not "plus sized" or chubby or even fat - she's morbidly obese. Hard truths need to be dealt with, not sweeped under the rug.

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indiecognition 2 years ago (edited)

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Loki’s Lil Butter Knife 2 years ago

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Shane S 2 years ago

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Impetus 2 years ago

I sat in between two men in a flight once and I didn't have an armrest then either.

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Nico 2 years ago

Get yourself a business class seat. Economy is cheap for a reason.

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BirFromHH 2 years ago

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Daycare Attendant Sun 2 years ago

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Little Wonder 2 years ago

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Albert Finney 2 years ago

Well you're more self aware than the vast majority of people I've ever met, me included.

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Islandchild 2 years ago

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BordestPanda 2 years ago

Christ, this thread is a dumpster fire. Not supporting someone’s choices doesn’t mean you have to be a d**k.

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Carol Emory 2 years ago

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Little Wonder 2 years ago

Here's some info about a different study in the UK - same results. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/11/fat-shaming-lose-weight-study

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cugel 2 years ago

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Lee 2 years ago

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Taibhse Sealgair 2 years ago

But what you're asking for is that people to take responsibility for themselves . But it's easier for them to blame other people.

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Kat Min 2 years ago (edited)

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Eastendbird 2 years ago

I find it interesting that BP thinks you should to refer to people as "plus size" rather than "obese" or "fat" but it's fine to refer to others as "skinny" rather than "slim" or "average size".

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Impetus 2 years ago

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Lizz Lor 2 years ago

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roz 2 years ago

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MidnightSky 2 years ago

Sorry but you choose to eat yourself into obesity and then expect the world to accommodate you?

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Ladytron 2 years ago

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digitalin 2 years ago

I wish I could upvote this more than once.

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Taibhse Sealgair 2 years ago

"body positivity advocate" in this case apparently means fat, imposing on other people, and unashamed by their behavior.

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RandomHumanBean 2 years ago

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madbakes 2 years ago

Seats used to be wider. Airlines just want to pack people in for more money.

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Piggy Tee 2 years ago

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Zet 2 years ago

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Aisling Raye 2 years ago

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Bernd Herbert 2 years ago

Look at all these points listed here. If that doesn’t make you loos weight…what will?

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Everyone calm down 2 years ago

Lose weight. When did it become necessary for the majority to bow down to the small minorities all the time.

5points

Elaine Morinelli 2 years ago

5points

Regina Salmons 2 years ago

5points

PaddleChica 2 years ago

5points

digitalin 2 years ago

5points

cugel 2 years ago

Solution: Lose weight.

5points

Pittsburgh rare 2 years ago

4points

Dre Mosley 2 years ago (edited)

Maybe stop being so "Fat and Proud" and drop some pounds?

4points

J Adams 2 years ago

4points

Luthor 2 years ago (edited)

4points

Izzy Jeanette 2 years ago

Yeah guys, just remember, no matter our difference in opinions, the downvote should only be used for when people are using hate speech or they are bots as this does get people banned!

2points

Traveler Mind 2 years ago

I hope you are also trying losing weight while doing all of these travels. Obesity is dangerous

3points

Sonia Ward 2 years ago

3points

Brazen 2 years ago

-3points

Edgar 2 years ago

You mean "normal size people". "Skinny" is offending.

3points

Piggy Tee 2 years ago

Buy two seats instead then. I paid for mine and I don't want half of you on it.

3points

digitalin 2 years ago

3points

digitalin 2 years ago

3points

Cynthia Souza 2 years ago

2points

Lillian Swaim 2 years ago (edited)

Now I feel like I need to ask a Little Person their struggles while traveling. Imagine how difficult and unsafe it must be for an adult who is under 5ft

2points

Wren Hard 2 years ago

Yes, and they ACTUALLY have no/ very little control over their size, unlike this woman

1point

Debi Danielsen 2 years ago

2points

Gogubaci 2 years ago

body positivity is for people with a real disability. being fat is not a disability, you're just a lazy and entitled brat that refuses to take responsibility for their life choices

2points

Leo Domitrix 2 years ago

2points

Ollie’s Mom 2 years ago

I'm not a skinny person and I'd like to think I'm fully supportive of body positivity, but this isn't it! The lady is obese, and in my opinion she's promoting unhealthy choices.

2points

rehanne garvey 2 years ago

This poor lady needs medical help 💔

2points

Brooke Klein 2 years ago

2points

frinny 2 years ago

Diet

2points

Milda Dell 2 years ago

i don't care until they don't take up my space. I'm more pissed with manspreading all over

2points

Piggy Tee 2 years ago

2points

J Nic 2 years ago (edited)

I think it’d be fantastic if every place made larger seats and seating areas. Imagine having more room to stretch out and not being squished in? This is a win for people of all sizes.

2points

Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

1point

Kat Sotiriou 2 years ago

I'm sorry but if you're so worried then why not do something about it if you can

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Sm!lez Tub3z 2 years ago

Said plane💀

1point

Sm!lez Tub3z 2 years ago

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Mrs.Pugh 2 years ago (edited)

Bro, this is literally at -149 points. I would've thought with the kind if community bp is, this would have a million points!

1point

RMA 2 years ago

A lot of these issues relate to tall people too. Airplane travel is horrible for anyone over 6’, 6’2. This is no longer an uncommon height!

1point

Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

1point

Hey! 2 years ago

1point

Mr.Kris 2 years ago

1point

Raccoon Queen 2 years ago

Bored Panda shouldn’t have published this, it’s an important topic but there’s too much grey area and mixed emotions

1point

Dacă nu pierdeam, câștigam 2 years ago

Honestly, this is a good post to promote healthy habits. Eat good food, not too much and exercise while it's phisically easier to, or else most aspects of life will be harder

1point

Janet C 1 year ago

0points

Sir Panda 1 year ago

0points

Dolma Tour 2 years ago

Thanks for sharing the information

0points

Wim Cossement 2 years ago (edited)

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gerard julien 2 years ago

0points

MelFunction 2 years ago

Wow. The comments tell me that BP really hates fat people. Sure, they pretend to be concerned for the person's health. But it's really just thinly veiled disgust.

0points

Tim S 2 years ago (edited)

0points

GlitterQueen541 2 years ago

WOW the amount of anti-fat comments in this article makes me sad. BP is usually not the place for all the vitriol, but this really shows the character of some people.

0points

Bethany Heller 2 years ago

I get that worrying whether you'll fit into airline seating isn't pleasant, but it's not like the person on the seat you use as overflow is any more comfortable with the situation

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El Dee 2 years ago

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Fat Harry 2 years ago

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Abner_Mality 2 years ago

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PandaRave 2 years ago

Omg this page got absolutely trashed lol

0points

Germán Martinez 2 years ago (edited)

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Meh 2 years ago

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Meh 2 years ago

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PjandBolt 2 years ago

0points

Klara 2 years ago

just dont be whale size fat....

0points

Heliocracy 2 years ago

So, being large is inconvenient in many ways. Seems you can either make others change many things in the world for you, or you can change yourself. We all have to adapt, except fat people apparently?

0points

Chrissyfox 2 years ago

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roz 2 years ago

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Patti Vance 2 years ago

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Sathe Wesker 2 years ago

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Brandy P 2 years ago

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Pieter LeGrande 2 years ago

0points

Ivana Bašić 2 years ago

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John K 2 years ago

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Izzy Curer 2 years ago (edited)

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Tamara Moxham 2 years ago

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Inclusion2020 2 years ago

0points

roz 2 years ago (edited)

0points

Miss Kat O 2 years ago

I was thinking this too... I smoke, it's my choice, is everyone going to accommodate my desire to smoke now, or do I have to adhere to the restrictions my habit puts on my life?

0points

Awen 2 years ago

0points

Loki’s Lil Butter Knife 2 years ago

2points

Void cat 2 years ago

This list is heartbreaking. The amount of hate.. Its just sad.

0points

Loki’s Lil Butter Knife 2 years ago

3points

AndyR 2 years ago

I do think airlines should offer a wider seat option. It's more comfortable for the person who needs the space and fairer for the person who'd be sitting next to them.

0points

Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

It’s called first class.

2points

Janet Weston 2 years ago

0points

Jason Wilhite 2 years ago

3points

Joybug 2 years ago

This post has 57 downvotes so far yet has jumped up to top of list above posts with hundreds of upvotes

0points

Buggycas 2 years ago

0points

Claire 2 years ago

4points