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“My Life Is Not Expendable For Your Own Convenience”: Woman’s Unwilling To Swap Seats With Moms
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“My Life Is Not Expendable For Your Own Convenience”: Woman’s Unwilling To Swap Seats With Moms

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Remember the movie Home Alone? Of course, you remember probably the greatest Christmas comedy of all time. Remember how at the very beginning, when the McAllisters and their relatives flew to Paris, the adults found themselves in business class, while the children got their seats in economy class, in another part of the aircraft?

Yes, sometimes parents simply expect that they will be able to agree with other passengers on swapping seats in order to sit next to their children. Of course, this annoys many lone flyers. And it turns out a heated discussion, like this one which recently happened on Twitter.

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    A Twitter user recently wrote about how she is not willing to give up her booked seat to parents with kids

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    The author wrote that she definitely considers this a hill to die on

    So, it all started with a tweet from the user @BeccaLizz, in which she stated that she would never give up her seat to passengers who would ask her about it. Even if they need to sit next to their own kids. According to the Original Poster (OP), the fact that she doesn’t have children and other people do is not a reason for making her life ‘expendable’ for someone’s convenience.

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    We don’t know what was the reason for OP’s tweet, her own experience on an aircraft, or an article she read on the subject. Perhaps both – after all, in the comments, Becky refers to this recent article on People, where a travel expert shares her opinion on whether solo flyers should give up their seats in order to help families reunite on the flight. In any case, the discussion, sparked by Becky’s tweet, turned out to be extremely heated and lively. And the internet, as usual, was very divided over it.

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    Folks on Twitter had mixed feelings over the initial tweet, and some really thought it wasn’t even worth a debate

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    On the one hand, some commenters are quite sure that many passengers with kids, when booking their tickets, sometimes deliberately choose seats scattered throughout the aircraft with the expectation that later they will be able to persuade the owners of neighboring seats to swap. And adherents of this side sincerely believe such people are entitled, therefore they fully support the original poster.

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    But there is also the other side of the coin. There is a situation when parents with children are unable to choose their flight and seat, so it is quite reasonable for them to want to sit next to each other. And these commenters, they say, would be honored to help a parent sit next to their kid. “It’s called kindness. Karma never loses an address,” one of the followers of this side wrote in their tweet.

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    Some people in the comments generally believe that Becky is paying too much attention to this issue. After all, yes, a window seat is definitely better than a middle seat, but is that a reason to consider your day ruined – especially if you helped a good person by doing so? Definitely not. “My holiday was ruined because I had to sit in seat 16D rather than 17E. – Nobody ever,” one of the folks in the comments quipped.

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    There’s actually a special online dashboard where people can check free family seating while booking tickets

    Currently, airlines do not have hard and fast rules about whether lone flyers should give up their seats to parents or not. There are, of course, recommendations, but nothing more. On the other hand, this issue has been raised more and more often lately, so various tools like this Department of Transportation online dashboard have appeared, which show, in particular, which airlines guarantee free family seating. So, yes, the case seems to be really moving towards the fact that family seating will become mandatory sooner or later.

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    “Parents traveling with young kids should be able to sit together without an airline forcing them to pay junk fees,” The Points Guy quotes U.S. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg. “We have been pressing airlines to guarantee family seating without tacking on extra charges, and now we’re seeing some airlines start to make this common-sense change.” Perhaps, over time, we’ll perceive such discussions on Twitter as a kind of anachronism. Who knows?

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    However, plane passengers often encounter entitled persons trying to get them out of their booked seats – and often these folks get instant karma instead. As it was, for example, with the characters of this story about a cunning couple who tried to exchange places with another passenger, but in the end only achieved extra leg room for him. And if you too have had a chance to face or witness some plane situation with overly entitled folks, please feel free to share your own story in the comments below.

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    LH25
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes it's more than just an "inconvenience". If I have paid more for a given seat that I picked out specifically, nope. The idea that guardians should fly with their kids makes sense, but to me, that means that it's on them to get and select their seats ahead of time.

    Beachbum
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you are flying with children you should be forced to choose seats together and pay where appropriate before the flight can be finalized period.

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    zak
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't mind moving, provided the seat to which I am moving is equivalent to the one I booked. I only book window seats, so I'm not moving if the new seat isn't a window seat (an exception to this rule can be made if the new seat is an aisle seat in first class 😁)

    Jim Zakany
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That rule is cast in concrete. The offered seat must be an upgrade, with space for my carry-on nearby.

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    Reese Mercado
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I find it ridiculous how someone not wanting to move from a seat they picked and paid for is deemed selfish. The anger should be towards the airline. For people saying karma this and selfish that, utterly ridiculous. Talk to the airline, raise your anger to the airline. I am not the airline...period.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about the airlines giving some kind of incentive for people to move? They do it if you volunteer to fly at a later time to make room on an overbooked flight (which is their own fault for constantly overbooking to guarantee 100% full flights). Same difference, tbh.

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    Paula Wynn
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So kind people should give up their window seat that they paid extra for because the parent didn't do the same? I've actually read people on here who have BRAGGED about getting a better seat because of their kid. How is THAT kind?

    lenka
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The thing is entitled people will be entitled whether they are parents or not. Yes, Some parents are entitled, but there are plenty of entitled solo travellers - I encounter them all the time. I always pay for seats with my children and we still get shuffled about and separated. I've been called an "entitled parent" by a solo traveller for demanding my original (booked and paid for) seat when the airline moved my two year old somewhere else on the plane for a long haul flight. I did the right thing when booking. I was distraught about my two year old being moved and the women was a straight up b***h. THAT sure as hell wasn't kind. We need to stop blaming parents and start blaming the airline for not honouring seats.

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    John Smith (he/him/xy/️)
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People don't realize that having children does NOT mean people have to honor your every whim

    lenka
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    We are not asking everyone to honour our every whim. We are asking airlines to lock in our seats when we book with children. The thing is entitled people will be entitled whether they are parents or not. Yes, Some parents are entitled, but there are plenty of entitled solo travellers - I encounter them all the time. We need to stop blaming parents and start blaming the airline for not honouring seats.

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    Malissa Shore
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It isn't just the airline seats. She was also talking about days off and holidays. She is right, just because she chose not to have kids and you chose to have them, doesn't mean she should not have holidays off or work your shifts to accommodate you and your children.

    Lunicia the crazy healer
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Germany, workers with kids (who already go to school and thus have fixed holidays) are prioritized over workers who have non when it comes to days off. Since parents are bound to school holidays and closing days and those without kids are not. When it comes to switching shifts then, I think, coworkers should try to help each other out. No matter if they have kids or not.

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    Duane Wright
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your kids are not my problem. I have and probably will switch on a case by case basis. I am more likely to say no now though after I gave up my window seat for in economy plus for what was supposed to be a window seat in the back. Nope, it was a middle seat. I sat in it anyway so as not to create a scene and delay an hour long flight. BTW, just so a couple could sit together. I'm much less sympathetic. Your lack of planning is not my problem.

    Lytse Draak
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I won't move for couples, for kids I may. I also would not like to end up sitting next to an unaccompanied child that isn't related to me.

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    Biofish23
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is 100% the airlines fault. It should't be so hard to get a seat with your kids. Even if you plan ahead and pay the absurd seat selection fees it's not a guarantee the airline won't rearrange you. I had an experience flying with my spouse and kids (2, 4, and 7 at the time) where we booked our seats together and paid the seat selection fees well in advance. But our flight was delayed (100% airlines fault not even weather) and we were bumped to a new flight for our connection. The airline had each of my kids sitting in their own row without an adult and no one who worked for the airline would help me rectify it. We got lucky that we had mostly windows and aisles so I was able to make some trades with other passengers otherwise I don't know what I would have done. Leaving a small child to sit with strangers is not safe or pleasant for anyone, but the airline do NOT care. Instead of having reasonable policies of seating families together they prefer to have their customers blame each other for the disaster.

    arthbach
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it should be illegal for airlines to separate children from their parents. If a person is under 12 years of age, they should be in the next seat to their adult.

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    Lace Neil
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pay extra so that I can book a window seat. Unless you're offering a seat in first class in return for my goat class seat, you can get stuffed.

    Suzie
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some parents need to learn the 7 P's. Proper prior planning prevents p**s poor performance.

    Oberain
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. Plan your mother f*****g trip better. Do not speak to me. Do not bother me. F**k off.

    Mirabelle Stonegate
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So,io ce forced a guy to move his seat, after he made very specific plans about where he was sitting. I do not regret it. Full story: flying Bristol to Ireland. I had an aisle seat. Man and his mother come along. He seats her by the window and backs out again. Turned out, he booked the window seat behind his mother. OK, cool.. nope. He turned to me, someone he didn't know, and TOLD me it was my job to look after his mother for the flight. That she was my responsibility. Eh.. nope. I demanded he swap with me. Flight attendant came over. Explained situation. She made him swap. I got 3 seats to myself. If it hadn't been for the demand I care for her, including taking her to the loo, I wouldn't have cared. But HIS mother, HIS responsibility.

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    Andrea Curran
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is it 'always" the people in the 'good' seat that get asked to change? Maybe the passengers in the seats near the other parties would be willing to move. Is it just because we don't hear these stories?

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They don't ask the people in the not good seats. A couple asked me to switch one time, and I was open to the idea. I asked where the spouse's seat was, and if they had asked the other person. It turned out the seat they wanted me to move to was next to MY husband! What are the chances?!?! I told her to go explain the situation to my husband, and I'm sure HE would switch. She didn't like that idea, because it wouldn't be an upgrade. Lol. I don't care about sitting next to my own spouse. We both just read the whole time, so where we sit is irrelevant. * more info: He got a a worse seat that me because he decided to come along last minute.

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    Susie Bennett
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People trying to demand the airplane seat that you paid extra to reserve are like drivers trying to cut into a long exit lane line at the last minute. Most of the time, they were perfectly aware their exit was coming up and decided that they didn't want to wait in line just like everybody else. So they try to cheat the system and create a big mess instead. That said, if they ask nicely, aren't already in my seat when I get there (I've actually had this happen!), and are able to trade an equivalent seat (that same person was trying to get me to take a middle seat!), I'll be happy to switch. But the moment they start acting entitled, then forget it.

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreed. For me, it's all about the attitude. If they are super nice about it, I might even take a downgrade (depending on the situation).

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    amy hipps
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry but by god if i PAID for a better seat i am not giving it up. Not my fault you had kids. Your problem not mine. So sick of society trying to push us childfree individuals to take care and help parents. I chose not to have kids for a reason. If you can't afford to seat all of you together don't expect the rest of us to do it for you.

    Scrolling Panda
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is NOT the customer's job to fix problems caused by an airline. Make the airline fix it. This problem is a DIRECT result of the airline not doing its job. Take the problem to regulatory agencies and governments to mandate that airlines provide block seating AT RESERVATION for people accompanying minors.

    Kirsti-Tina Thompson
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I've paid extra for my seat, either window or more leg room, I'm not moving. They should select their seats before time to ensure they are all sat together instead of leaving it to chance n then guilt tripping people into moving. If it's an equivalent seat I'll move. Last time I flew to the US a little girl on my row's movie screen was busted. I had my tablet with me with lots of series on it, so I happily swapped seats with her so she could watch cartoons on the 9hr flight.

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That was nice of you. I once paid for an in-flight move and let the kid next to me share my headphones, so he could watch too. He was so cute! He shared his M&Ms with me. Interesting note: He was about 10 years old, and his mom didn't ask me to switch seats with her. When she got him seated, she told me her name, that she was sitting a few rows back, and to yell for her if he misbehaved.

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    day light
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't help but point out that OP has a disability emoji in her display name, so I'll say this. traveling with a disability is hard, especially if you're a wheelchair user. it's incredibly stressful and can cause chronic pain flare ups. when it comes to the end of the day, once you're settled in a seat, you do your damn best to stay in that seat for the whole duration of the flight, avoiding getting up to even use the bathroom because you're in so much pain already. it's selfish to ask someone to move because you went the budget route of not booking your seats together. this is all without mentioning how many of us with disabilities would love to be parents, but choose not to be because we aren't selfish (passing down our disability, not having enough energy to give a child a happy life, not being in financial stability because SSI isn't liveable) it's almost like it's being rubbed in our faces that we're less important than you because we are childless

    LuckyTanuki
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yea but it's Twitter.... I'd take that with such a big grain of salt id die from it. For all we know her "disability" is that she is socially awkward or some other bull**** one. Twitter users love to make themselves stand out and act like their problems are bigger than the rest of us.

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    Lesley Christie
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think what she means is that a lot of the time when you are single you ate made to feel like your time, your life isn't worth as much because you are not sharing it with someone else. It could be that you are expected to have last choice of annual leave or that people expect you to always be available because hey , you'd only be on your own anyway. These things all build up until one day you've just had enough and I think that's where this person is. Being single, on your own, in your own company is a valid way to live a successful life. Until society starts to realise this, people on their own might be a bit spikey as we are just sick and tired of being made to feel like we only exist to do things for other people because our holiday, weekend etc can't possibly be enjoyable because we're not spending it with someone else. Expendable is exactly how you start to feel.

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a boss tell me it shouldn't be a big deal to work till midnight because I didn't have a family to go home to. The audacity! I pointed out that since there is no one waiting for me at home, no one would know if I didn't make it home. I told her she would need to stay on the phone with me for my entire, hour-long commute, from 12am-1am; otherwise, I wasn't staying. Lol.

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    Charlie
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its incredible how people are quick to draw conclusions. I m a Gen X and this happened when i was younger and my father took the lone seat so i could sit with my mom. No one died. I could've sat by myself and wouldn't have died. So please. It's difficult enough to be in a sardine can full of humans for a few hours. Can you be allowed to do what you want with your plane purchased ticket and not be considered a d**k. Whatever her reasons, i m sure there was a past situation, is none of our business to judge how she put this. For those who thinks it's mandatory by using children as back ul, she didn't have to move. End of story.

    Upstaged75
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Last year on a Southwest flight (where it's open seating - first come first serve) a father threw a fit because his family was last getting on the plane and there were no seats together. Not a single person offered to give up their seat. Including me. :) Even the flight attendant told him tough luck - that's how Southwest works. But as there WAS an open seat next to me and I told the guy I'd be happy to look out for his kid. (I used to be a nanny and I like children.) The kid turned out to be lovely and he read a book (an actual paper one!) the whole time after I helped him with his seatbelt. The father ended up sitting directly behind him so it's not like he ended up far away. I set an alarm to check in early so I could get a good seat. Most people know to do this or they pay extra to board first. Frankly it was not anyone's problem that the guy didn't bother to do the same for his family so they could sit together..

    Dan G
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Southwest airlines boarded a mother and infant standby. When the man sitting next to me volunteered to move, i was told give up the window seat. We don't care if you get motion sick. If your do not obey us we will have to have you removed from this airplane. But all the alcohol you can drink is free. I told them I don't drink. They said that's too bad.

    Lee
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It honestly depends on the way a person asks, rather than the request itself. If they are polite I will gladly switch. If it suddenly becomes a demand or something I "have" to do, as the article says, I will be glued to that seat the whole flight. Fortunately I truly believe most parents would just ask me and it would be no issue.

    Tumbah
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another example of a corporation pitting it's customers against one another. Why are people getting mad at this woman for not giving up the seat she paid for? If you travel with children it's your responsibility to ensure that your seats are booked together. If that's not possible through the app/online, it is the airline's responsibility to ensure that you are seated together. No one should EVER be criticized for not giving up their seat to accommodate the failure of the airline.

    SofaKing
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is an etiquette among us that fly a lot to the asking/giving seat changes. One never ask for a better seat. Two, if it's that important, the asker should offer a better seat. Three, it's okay to ask for window or aisle but don't be mad if you get a no. Four, you are a jerk if you get asked to swap like for like seats (aisle, window, legroom) and you say no.

    MoJo1979
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will also die on this hill. If I have paid extra to reserve a seat or even paid nothing but reserved the seat I'd feel most comfortable in, it is my seat and I will not sit elsewhere. It is the parents and airlines responsibility to ensure that their children are sat with them, not mine.

    Cris Francois
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone paid extra for their seat, it’s not an even exchange. If someone is asked to move from window aisle- it’s not an even exchange.

    Susn Padme
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NO! NO! NO! I will not change my seat. Especially not because of soneone else's bad planning. Yeah, you may call me Karen or whatever...I don't care. These are your kids, you manage your seating arrangements well ahead of time as I do/did. No!

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I might switch if the family got split up because their original flight got cancelled and they had to re-book. There is pretty much zero chance they are going to get seats together when that happens, through no fault of their own. But how do I know they are telling the truth?

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    Kirstin Blueskies
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have some time had a book flights where there's little time between switching flights. So I need to get off in a hurry. It's a swap is going to put me in a better position to get off great if not and could perhaps hinder me from making my connecting flight no. Also depends on how people ask if it's nice yes it's demanding and expecting to be so because they have children no

    Roxy Hall
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I paid for my seat with my child. I flew Southwest, American Airlines and others. I never had a problem with seating me and my child together. I double checked at the front desk or the gate to make sure we are together. Not him at the window and me aside with someone in-between, together at the hip. Parents need to make sure all their little ones are together with them. The older ones can sit by themselves. Make sure the attendants know “hey my child is 11 or whatever and this their seat, can you keep an eye on them as I’m in the back?” Not hard. Don’t bother the other passengers for not checking ahead.

    Kieran N
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents always managed to book seats next to my sister and I. It can be done. I don't understand this entitlement to someone else's seat

    Noel Bovae
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's one thing to ASK for a person to switch seats, it's another to EXPECT someone to switch seats just because you asked.

    Margaret Howard
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t fly and even I can tell you better book seats together because my skinny white a**e isn’t moving for birthers

    Janet Howe
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I have paid more for a seat, such as the window seat, I probably would not move. I think families should make arrangements to sit together when they book.

    Christopher Denney
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely NOPE. I pay extra for my seat typically. I know for a fact that other people find the cheapest seats they can then try to guilt others into switching with them for better seats. I know this because they brag about it while waiting to board.

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of cousins does that, so I also know for a fact that some parents do it on purpose.

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    Peter Arriaga
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Very simple for families with small children booking tickets online: avoid the Basic Economy fare where you don't have control of picking your seats! Buy a standard ticket so you can lock in your seating immediately, and not wait until you arrive at the airport and realize the flight is full and you have to beg the gate agent or people already on board and comfortable to move so you can be with your kids!

    Adam Zad
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is no one suggesting the child swap with the person sitting next to the mother?

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because that is usually a worse seat. That is what makes people think they did it on purpose, for a free upgrade.

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    lenka
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We should be blaming the airlines here. I have booked multiple flights and paid for seats to ensure that my children are next to me. On more than one occasion, and once for a long haul (14 hour flight), the airline has changed the seat and put my 2 year old somewhere else in the plane. Even when you book and pay for specific seats, the airline will not guarantee them. [Most] parents do the right thing and most are not asking for special treatment. Airlines should be forced to accommodate seating for minors at time of booking, rather than leaving it be a shitshow at boarding.

    Ferdinand Zabukovnik
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and what did You as a parent? How have they explained to anybody that they have put 2 year old kid anywhere except near parent or legal guardian? Even low-cost irish airline clearly states: For safety reasons, children under the age of 12 must sit beside an accompanying adult, and infants (aged 8 days to 23 months inclusive) must sit on an accompanying adult’s lap.

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    DrBronxx
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We're going on a long haul flight in less than two weeks. We're travelling with our 5-month-old baby. As soon as possible after we booked our tickets, we contacted the airline to ensure that we would have seats together, with a bassinet. We did this months ago. The systems must not be the same everywhere, because this is an absolute no-brainer to me; if you travel with kids, get your seats booked as early in advance as possible.

    lenka
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do this too. Pay extra for allocated seating and we still get separated from the kids sometimes.

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    T McKray
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    entitlement at its finest. your responsibilities are NOT mine; i don't recall anyone asking for help to make the baby. maybe think before you have unprotected sex

    Lytse Draak
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a difference between asking and demanding, and OP didn't specify it was either. Nor did OP specify if the parent asked because they failed to plan or because the airline messed up.

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    Tom Herman
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Parents need to plan ahead. I pay extra for Business or First Class so it usually doesn't come up. The rare times it did worked out as it was actually an upgrade for me. It depends on the situation.

    Gargaroth the Devourer
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look, I think it's a nice thing to do and would make that family's day. HOWEVER, they are not entitled to someone else's seat, and you do not have to give them your seat, especially if you payed specifically for it. It is a personal choice, and no one should judge

    Lunicia the crazy healer
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can someone explain to me the situation a little bit more? English isn't my first language. I didn't fly often, but whenever I flew with my kids, I had to book and pay for the seats I chose for us and we never got split up. Is this common in the US to get seated somewhere else and thus get split from your partner or kids?

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I honestly do not think it's common for US airlines to split parents from children. It usually only happens with cheap tickets (no guarantee on seats), late booking (parent's fault), or re-booking (cancelled flight, so they squeeze you onto another flight). With re-booking, the airline cannot guarantee assigned seats, but they should still have some way to deal with children. Airline attendants used to ask other passengers if they were willing to switch in that situation. I never minded switching, because I knew it was legitimate. Now, the airlines do not handle it, so you do not know if you are being scammed.

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    Beth H
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Need to start putting the onus on the airlines. It's absolutely absurd that a child would be seated amongst strangers. Especially if the child was under 15. Sometimes these so called "entitled" parents got screwed even though they tried to pick seats together. So much weird resentment towards parents and kids on here.

    Sebastian Smades
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That almost never happens. Only if there’s a last minute snafu that forces them to put you on a different aircraft or rebook you onto a different flight so they can’t honor the seats you chose. And who cares. Life happens. It isn’t always perfect. You’re not gonna die if you have to spend 3h away from your kid.

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    shahmudin karim
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not me especially when i have made special meal arrangements n i dont my food to be messed up

    tsuki nercua
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on the seat. If its an upgrade, I'll gladly switch. If I'll be sandwiched in their family, I switch. If the new seat is at the very back near the restroom, thats a no.

    Arlene
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, not gonna move. I usually pay for my seat to be near the aisle so I can pee and it clamber over people. You’re a parent, plan better.

    Dianna Hampton
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For the record, we have paid to have our seats together or booked seats together only to find the day of the flight or even right as we're checking in that our seats were changed. When you call ahead to "fix the mistake" and wait on hold to get transferred from person to person and then no one actually helps you...you're stuck asking the gate agent who tells you they are sorry, try asking to switch when you board the plane. I don't think people should be forced to switch. I believe it's kind and wise to allow parents to keep their kids safe and comfortable so everyone has the best flight possible. I do firmly believe airlines should be heavily fined for these seating changes when they involve minors and fined still when they separate people who purchased their tickets together. People have anxiety and trauma and still have to fly. There are funerals and sick Aunties and Grannies. Last minute changes can deeply effect mental health, kids need care, it more than an inconvenience.

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read the fine print when you book your tickets. If it says assigned seats are not guaranteed, that's on you. This usually happens with cheaper tickets. That's why they are cheap; you can be re-assigned, or bumped. Also, the person you try to switch with may have anxiety, mental issues, or a sick grandma. You don't know. It's not your problem to know, just like it's not their problem to know about your issues.

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    Sammie 19
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I haven't flown for a while but I did some years ago with my 3 kids. Ryanair were incredibly helpful. I was a single parent and the seats were 3 in a row and because I wasn't flying with anyone I was told that my eldest had been booked to sit in front of my seats BUT I needed to find another passenger that would take responsibility for her incase of emergency. I understood that. Luckily each time there was a grandma type woman who said she would love to sit beside my eldest daughter. Plus she got to board early with us. Ryanair were awesome.

    Lytse Draak
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP didn't specify she paid extra for the seat or that the other person came with an unreasonable demand. It's also not always poor planning as sometimes airlines mess up and people don't end up in the seats they paid for, so there is room for a lot of speculation with this post. I understand not wanting to downgrade your seat, especially if someone starts demanding though. I'd ask to swap if I don't end up next to my child, but if you refuse, enjoy sitting the rest of the flight next to my child who has no filter (autism) and talks about anything and everything he comes up with.

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Haha! Free in-flight entertainment, courtesy of your son 🤣. I worked with a kid who would quote an entire movie script if you told him you hadn't seen a movie. He would only stop of you gave him a piece of gum; he couldn't chew and talk at the same time.

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    Kerri
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can understand in some situations for not moving, but I think in general people should move so parents can be with their children, especially is the parent is not trying to be rude. My brother and I used to fly a lot to visit our dad who lived across the country. When we were younger, we always had one of our parents fly with us. My brother has autism, and it effects him pretty significantly. He would have to sit next to whichever parent, because of he didn't, it would be a major meltdown. This would include screaming, threatening to kill himself (which he most definitely could not do then), trying to hurt himself, and possibly attempting to hurt others if it escalated enough. All of that would be easily avoided if a parent was allowed to sit with them. Often, children need a lot of help, even if they are neurotypical and do not have a disability. It is not a huge inconvenience to move, unless you have a good reason. This lady did not know the situation of the parent or children...

    Rain Anderson
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In general it's not other people's business to move . Either talk to airline authority or deal with it .

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    Lyn Redman
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like an aisle seat, I pay extra for it. Those who expect getting a particular seat for free are grifters. Entitled nonentities

    Ambry Petersen
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's sad that the few times they actually encounter entitled parents is used as an excuse to hate all parents. You never hear of the times parents willingly switch to inferior seats to be next to thier kids. Sometimes the childless can be pretty entitled too. Thier children aren't your problem fine, but you also have to accept that you, your problems, and your convenience are not that parent's problem either. Parents are responsible for thier children, not the grown up adults around them. As a parent you work with what you got, and most of the time what you got to work with amounts to diddly squat.

    Carla Olavarría
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yours and your kids needs are not my problem. your cheapness or your lack of planning is not my problem

    Joseph Matthews
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "my life is not expendable." Its a seat Becky. A seat identical to the dozens of others on the plane. You'd think they were asking her to ride strapped to the wing or something. It's a seat, not your 'life.' You're just being rude and that's fine. You are allowed to be rude. It's the exact same principle as giving your seat up on the bus to an elderly person or pregnant woman, you didn't grow old or knock them up either but it's just something nice you can do (or don't!) If this is such an inconvenience imagine if she was asked to do something actually hard.

    Wim Cossement
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    God damnit, enough of this entitlement or Karen stories. You get what you pay for but no-one owns you s**t.

    michele mbennett101044@yahoo.c
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ummm…sorry mom, but it’s YOUR responsibility to book seats to accommodate you and your child/children, NOT some random stranger who had the foresight to book THEIR seat. NOPE not changing seats, end of conversation! It’s just plain RUDE and ENTITLED to be so presumptuous as to ask/demand that of anyone, let alone a stranger.

    Matt R
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a scenario where a lot depends. Personally when I fly I mostly fly Southwest (no pre-assigned seating). In that scenario, if asked nicely I would gladly swap seats with a parent wanting to sit closer to their children. On the flip side, if I am flying Delta, Alaska Air, or another airline with pre-assigned seating I would not switch. I paid for a specific seat and the failure to plan on the part of the parents does not constitute an emergency on my part

    13th死神
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just choose the damn seats from the he start and that's it , holly s**t u ppl make such a big issue out of the smallest easyest things to work out and fix

    J Santos
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol if I had to choose between sitting beside an UNSUPERVISED child or swtiching seats with parent, I will 100% choose switching seats. Heck, I switch with a child, if that means EVERYONE can have a peaceful plane ride lol. I guess this person LOVES babysitting for free lol

    KL Best
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back when I flew a lot on business (very rare flying for personal reasons), if I discovered young kids and their adult companion(s) were separated, I'd *offer* to change seats. Parents were always xxx appreciative. My first preference would be the aisle, not window, anyway. If asked, I prob would agree so long as I didn't end up in the last row. But my airplane trips preceded paying for specific seats - I didn't even know this had become a thing. Wow.

    Courtney
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I recently had a trip from west coast to New York. Going there was lovely! Minneapolis layover meant 2 decent length flights. Wonderful vacation! On the way back….oh geez 🙄 I have never felt more rage on a flight in my life. We had a longer light and I ended up in a window seat with a family of 3 and dog in the row behind me. The family strapped their toddler in his seat directly behind me and of the 5 hr flight he screamed, whined and kicked my seat for 3.5 hrs of it. The dad was asleep most of the flight in his aisle seat, mom was in the middle seat with the dog in her lap and occasionally tried to console her demon spawn. Kids are part of society and deserve to use public spaces. But it’s the parents job to manage them and plan accordingly. I don’t know their situation but did they really need to bring a lap dog? put the kid in the middle seat so both parents can deal. They had other family on the that could have helped. A little more planning could have saved everyone some stress.

    danile342000@yahoo.com
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once booked two seats together for myself and young son. The airline switched them on me. My son was sitting several rows behind me so I asked someone next to him to switch. He got a better seat and I sat next to my son. Sometimes, the airline messes up.

    De Nilla
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As usual, people pitted against one another over the actions of corporations.

    William Teach
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I paid for my seat. Some seats cost extra. I will not switch unless it is a better seat. You should have thought about this when booking a flight. Nor will I watch your kids. But, in Reality Land, I've never seen this happen in all the times I've flown. I have a feeling this whole "moms asking to switch seats" thing is mostly made up by people looking for social media cred.

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't recall ever being asked to switch by a parent. I've sat beside many stranger's kids, and the parents didn't ask to switch. But I have a cousin who brags about doing this, so it does happen. The ones who always ask me to switch are couples, and it's always for a worse seat. I'm pretty sure two grown adults can survive without each other for a few hours.

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    Tiramisu
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, but a valid point was made. The parent wants to sit with child to take care of them. If you’re refusing to move and the parent is seated somewhat far away, they can’t be there every moment to take care of them. Then that becomes an even bigger inconvenience to you, having a crying or annoying child doing things unsupervised because parent can’t see it and isn’t allowed to get up from their seat.

    Eledore Massis
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If child has been decently raised: sorry, let me take care of this child, give it a new expriemce and you enjoy the flight.. Otherwise, sure let's swap and I will give your some ducktape from my bag.

    Jen L
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a hot button issue because it is part of a larger argument; people with kids get ahead almost everywhere and you are single you just have to lump it. The person with kids next to you at the office has twice as many sick days, as does their partner. The company (ie, Xmas party or picnic) spends $$ for the kids….nothing if you don’t have them. The world is set up like this. Parents do not ‘see’ this because they would be forced to agree.

    Jericho Kilmister
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That sounds like yet another U.S. problem. Never been asked to switch seats, never seen a company that does not give the option to choose your seats. So if it ever happens that someone asks me to switch, hard no. I pay to chiose my seat, you could have done the same

    Danish Susanne
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is a surprise to me, that if the children are in economy class and the parents in business, that they cannot find someone in economy to change their places to business class so that the adults can sit with their children (hope my irony is clear)

    Anne
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not a life or death inconvenience, but I'm very picky where I sit in a plane and I am willing to pay for that seat (and above 3 hours I fly business/first). I have had people try to make me switch with their kid in economy while I was in first. I was 18 or 19 at the time. Yeah nope. Just because I'm young, does not mean i'm a push over... I did have to call the flight attendant on that one.

    Kevin Noonan
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From what someone said airline seating isn't life or death. I disagree. Case in point . There was a plane crash years ago and a friend of my mom's was on that plane. During the flight they were sitting chatting with someone in different seats that were "vacant". Then the Capt. Said to have everyone return to your original seating. Moments later the plane crashed, those seats they were in wile mingling got ejected from the plane. There's we're fine. Moral of the story if they had not been were they were assigned on the plane when it crashed they would have been presumed doa. Because that's how they keep track of who's still on the plane wile your bucked in. Assigned seats for a reason.

    Nickie Chan
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, coming from a man who has a kid. No. Its on the family to plan and choose the seats when they book the flight. Why would you depend on strangers to be kind to you and your family? Plan it, book it, secure the f*****g seats.

    Dawn Harris
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you book a flight for a family trip, you choose your seats at that time I'm not moving because you didn't plan ahead This is ridiculous, but I do understand that flying nowadays is the worst experience ever, which goes back to getting the seats you want at booking 🤷‍♀️

    Kim Morrison
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just tell the airline when you book the tickets that you have minor children. If that’s not possible tell the people you check your baggage in with! Look at your tickets with the seat on them AS SOON as you get them! In the aisle of the plane itself is NOT the place to address this problem! At the very latest address it with the gate personnel before you board the plane. These are the people who can actually do something about it! For the love of all that is sacred look at your 🦆ing tickets before you board the plane!!

    Karen Foster-Yonkers
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, who in their right mind who doesn’t have kids would want to sit next to them anyway who is squirming, talking, and being the bratty selves that kids that are!? I would gladly move if I had to sit next to kids for hours (even 1) on a plane! In fact, I would be the one begging and trying to pay off another passenger for their quiet seat!! LOL

    hhh cubed
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could we please just assign the blame where it needs to be, on the airlines. Why they need to charge passengers for *choosing* their seat is the real problem here and is down to nothing more than greed. This is an unfair money grabbing practice that impacts a family more than a solo traveler. That being said, I am not likely to give up my window seat if I chose and paid for it.

    Kathy Gallagher
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Darn, we don't like the seats in the back although there's 4 together. There's a bunch closer to the exit. We'll book those and expect people to accommodate us; never mind those who paid more or have mobility issues that need aisle seats. We will expect them to move. If they won't, we'll create a scene until they do!" This has become a standard behavior and even has a website telling people how to do this. It is also why some people will dig in their heels and refuse to switch.

    Kevin Felton
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's a little obnoxious with the "expendable" comment, but she's still 100% right. I'm tired of these walking uteruses who think the world owes them something because they were unable to puzzle out the rubiks cube that is the modern prophylaxis. Your kids are your problem, not mine.

    Sonja
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It depends. If the seat I'm offered is better or at least equal I'd do it, if the seat is uncomfortable or in any other way bad, I'd assume they're using the child as excuse to get better seats and tell them to touch grass.

    Chantale Jeanne
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The issue is that families book seats together and they are taken. american airlines esp. I have paid for seats and have been told I didn't check in in time. Except I was on a connecting flight and literally had checked in 5-6 hours earlier. Ie travelling from Toronto to NYC to another city in USA. How do I go up to their counter and ask for my tickets back? They say no. Then go in and the people are aggressive too, even the ones that took my booked seats. How do families do what's needed to be done? I was told once to put my 2 yo girl between 2 arrangers as both strangers took my own seats. Stop blaming parents, start blaming airlines.

    Rich Lavalle
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you have children and need to sit together, instead of booking the tickets online yourself why not call the airline directly and book through them. Explain you have a family of three and you need to sit together. Simple as that. It may cost you more, but that's because you have children that you chose to have. It costs a lot of money for children in general.

    Della
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "expendable"?? "Ruined"?? Wow, what a load of drama! If the plane goes down, it's the WHOLE plane and I suspect your life was ruined well before a seat change. Just hope you never have to ask a stranger for a small favor.

    Charity Angel
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think a lot of people missed that this clearly turned into a bigger rant than just about airline seats. I get the feeling OP has experienced the workplace "can you move your vacation time because [x] has kids and that's the school holiday?", or similar requests to adjust for colleagues with kids. Probably also family trying to dump their kids on her "because she doesn't have kids so she won't have any plans, she can help out".

    Mym B
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I paid for my seat. Pay for your group to be together or drive.

    Kristina Cowan
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends, if I pay and reserve a seat and someone tells me to leave that seat for their convenience, I will not move. I paid and reserved that seat already. That is my exception. I do like to accommodate if it's necessary though.

    Summer Sunshine
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This could all be alleviated if every airline allowed everyone to choose their seats at booking without an extra fee.

    Angela Allen Simms
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Today, you need a sun dial, google maps and a mole in air traffic control to make flight even close to where you want to go!!!! I'm a aisle seat rider. I PAY for a aisle seat even when I fly 1st class. If you're gonna be a bully with my well planned, may be disrupted without help from someone who doesn't give a damn about my plans then you should ignore my ignoring you.

    Karen Kempler
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is something fishy about a parent who requested the change in order to "sit next to" their child. If the seat configuration is 3-3 and Becky had a window seat, then the child is already sitting next to their parent. If the parent is requesting the switch so their darling can have a window seat, then the parent should switch their aisle seat for the window seat. I would never switch an aisle or window seat for a middle seat. Additionally, how far away from your child can you be when you're crammed into a sealed tube? The parents in Home Alone intentionally put their children in coach so they could enjoy first class!

    Kirsten Walstedt
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want your family to sit together, buy seats together. That's between you and the airlines. It's nothing to do with me

    Tricia Gerbino
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry, too bad, you planned poorly. I used to be an usher @ our local Church & always during high holy days like Ash Wednesday, we'd get the Holy Rollers pretending to be Catholic for 1 hr that day & 8 am mass would get overly crowded even with people with children, I never gave up my sweat for them, why would I have to be inconvenienced to stand for a full hour & a half??? That mass was always longer especially, after, I let so, many other people into the pew I was sitting in & there was literally no room anywhere, then, I'd get yelled @ by older women cause they needed a seat, first come, first served, so, no, too bad on you, I'm not swapping seats especially one I paid for

    Shark Lady
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once flew from Germany back to the UK, the airline experienced a glitch which meant we had to check in once we reached the airport, unfortunately a sports team was ahead of us and they bagged nearly all the window and aisle seats. Daughter, partner and I were in random middle seats nowhere near each other. Luckily said daughter was just old enough at 12 to not need to be sat next to me because I would not have liked to ask anyone to swap with!

    Cindy Brower
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As much as I plan, or even pay extra to make sure I have 2 seats directly next to each other, the airline messes up, or overbooks, or whatever the case may be , somehow my $38.00 upgrade per seat at early check-in, now means nothing, and even though I made sure to plan ahead, pay the little fees , I still had to end up feeling like the idiot when I had to ask someone to move. Ask the Flight attendance for assistance, no, they can't help u .

    Ferdinand Zabukovnik
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    eeee ... when overbooking they don't board You. Have You asked for reimbursment? Is in Your state mandatory via legal requirements? They have sold you something, you paid something, they didn't deliver something that they took money for. In my country is regulated (and no matter what, I can not sue them) so I know what they must give me if i remain on ground because airline is not able to provide what they took money for.

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    Joann Hart
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's been a few years since I've flown. I can remember purchasing tickets and selecting seats together but when the day came...we were nowhere near each other. I hope the kid next to her filled his pants :)

    Elizabeth Pa
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my now 19 year old was a toddler, I paid for his seat and I brought his car seat for him to sit on. I booked the window seat for him and the middle seat for me. Our first flight was delayed so I had time to get off the plane, change his diaper, and go to this second plane. We were one of the last to board because our first flight was delayed. I get to my assigned seat and a woman was sitting in it. Her boyfriend was in the aisle seat and she refused to move. She told me to sit in the seat in front of her boyfriend because she wasn't moving. She wanted me to leave my toddler by himself next to her. The flight attendant intervened. The couple sitting next to where the woman was supposed to sit volunteered to separate on their flight so my son and I could sit together. It's not just parents with children who are @$$e$.

    Death Metal Kitty
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, imagine lashing out against Karens so badly, you become one of them.

    Meghan Wood
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The real question is: do YOU want to sit next to my child on a 3 hour flight, or would you rather it be me? I’m fine either way.

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on how horrible your kid is. I've sat next to unaccompanied minors with no issue. Your kid must be a monster for you to think this is a good ultimatum.

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    Carol Allison
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    1 year ago

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    Na its cool, ill just have my 14 year old autisic son with really bad adhd sit next them and ask them 11ty billion questions about birds while i go to my seat and take a well earned nap. And dont get mad at me if he smacks you in the face on accident with his non stop arm flapping whilst making odd mouth noises, thats your problem now. We can make it really fun and i can have his 7 year sister sit on the other side of you so they can fight with each other while youre trapped in the middle. Dont wanna switch seats, thats cool, you can be my kids parent for a few hours. Mommy's on vacation.

    Ferdinand Zabukovnik
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are You not legally responsible for kid until certain age? Where do You live? Do You hate kids? Are You even a parent? I am not sure if this is sarcasm or are You really prepared to put your kid through ordeal because of incopetent airline or/and poor planing ...

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    Matt Smolensky
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    1 year ago (edited)

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    What a jerk ... can't stand "childfree" selfish jerks who can't be bothered to help out a parent and child. You people will only have a future economy to selfishly take advantage of because those of us who have kids chose to do so. So yeah, those of us who have secured the worlds future instead of just our own DO deserve preferential treatment for airline seats, break time, vacation time, restaurant seating, you name it. And instead of complaining, you can do it while thanking us for giving you a world to live in.

    Mbfsc63
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Still doesn't entitle you to someone else's seat they PAID to choose.........also you most certainly did not give me the world I live in.

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    Stardust she/her
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    1 year ago

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    LH25
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes it's more than just an "inconvenience". If I have paid more for a given seat that I picked out specifically, nope. The idea that guardians should fly with their kids makes sense, but to me, that means that it's on them to get and select their seats ahead of time.

    Beachbum
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you are flying with children you should be forced to choose seats together and pay where appropriate before the flight can be finalized period.

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    zak
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't mind moving, provided the seat to which I am moving is equivalent to the one I booked. I only book window seats, so I'm not moving if the new seat isn't a window seat (an exception to this rule can be made if the new seat is an aisle seat in first class 😁)

    Jim Zakany
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That rule is cast in concrete. The offered seat must be an upgrade, with space for my carry-on nearby.

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    Reese Mercado
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I find it ridiculous how someone not wanting to move from a seat they picked and paid for is deemed selfish. The anger should be towards the airline. For people saying karma this and selfish that, utterly ridiculous. Talk to the airline, raise your anger to the airline. I am not the airline...period.

    Kathryn Baylis
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about the airlines giving some kind of incentive for people to move? They do it if you volunteer to fly at a later time to make room on an overbooked flight (which is their own fault for constantly overbooking to guarantee 100% full flights). Same difference, tbh.

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    Paula Wynn
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So kind people should give up their window seat that they paid extra for because the parent didn't do the same? I've actually read people on here who have BRAGGED about getting a better seat because of their kid. How is THAT kind?

    lenka
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The thing is entitled people will be entitled whether they are parents or not. Yes, Some parents are entitled, but there are plenty of entitled solo travellers - I encounter them all the time. I always pay for seats with my children and we still get shuffled about and separated. I've been called an "entitled parent" by a solo traveller for demanding my original (booked and paid for) seat when the airline moved my two year old somewhere else on the plane for a long haul flight. I did the right thing when booking. I was distraught about my two year old being moved and the women was a straight up b***h. THAT sure as hell wasn't kind. We need to stop blaming parents and start blaming the airline for not honouring seats.

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    John Smith (he/him/xy/️)
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People don't realize that having children does NOT mean people have to honor your every whim

    lenka
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    1 year ago

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    We are not asking everyone to honour our every whim. We are asking airlines to lock in our seats when we book with children. The thing is entitled people will be entitled whether they are parents or not. Yes, Some parents are entitled, but there are plenty of entitled solo travellers - I encounter them all the time. We need to stop blaming parents and start blaming the airline for not honouring seats.

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    Malissa Shore
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It isn't just the airline seats. She was also talking about days off and holidays. She is right, just because she chose not to have kids and you chose to have them, doesn't mean she should not have holidays off or work your shifts to accommodate you and your children.

    Lunicia the crazy healer
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Germany, workers with kids (who already go to school and thus have fixed holidays) are prioritized over workers who have non when it comes to days off. Since parents are bound to school holidays and closing days and those without kids are not. When it comes to switching shifts then, I think, coworkers should try to help each other out. No matter if they have kids or not.

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    Duane Wright
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your kids are not my problem. I have and probably will switch on a case by case basis. I am more likely to say no now though after I gave up my window seat for in economy plus for what was supposed to be a window seat in the back. Nope, it was a middle seat. I sat in it anyway so as not to create a scene and delay an hour long flight. BTW, just so a couple could sit together. I'm much less sympathetic. Your lack of planning is not my problem.

    Lytse Draak
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I won't move for couples, for kids I may. I also would not like to end up sitting next to an unaccompanied child that isn't related to me.

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    Biofish23
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is 100% the airlines fault. It should't be so hard to get a seat with your kids. Even if you plan ahead and pay the absurd seat selection fees it's not a guarantee the airline won't rearrange you. I had an experience flying with my spouse and kids (2, 4, and 7 at the time) where we booked our seats together and paid the seat selection fees well in advance. But our flight was delayed (100% airlines fault not even weather) and we were bumped to a new flight for our connection. The airline had each of my kids sitting in their own row without an adult and no one who worked for the airline would help me rectify it. We got lucky that we had mostly windows and aisles so I was able to make some trades with other passengers otherwise I don't know what I would have done. Leaving a small child to sit with strangers is not safe or pleasant for anyone, but the airline do NOT care. Instead of having reasonable policies of seating families together they prefer to have their customers blame each other for the disaster.

    arthbach
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it should be illegal for airlines to separate children from their parents. If a person is under 12 years of age, they should be in the next seat to their adult.

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    Lace Neil
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pay extra so that I can book a window seat. Unless you're offering a seat in first class in return for my goat class seat, you can get stuffed.

    Suzie
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some parents need to learn the 7 P's. Proper prior planning prevents p**s poor performance.

    Oberain
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. Plan your mother f*****g trip better. Do not speak to me. Do not bother me. F**k off.

    Mirabelle Stonegate
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So,io ce forced a guy to move his seat, after he made very specific plans about where he was sitting. I do not regret it. Full story: flying Bristol to Ireland. I had an aisle seat. Man and his mother come along. He seats her by the window and backs out again. Turned out, he booked the window seat behind his mother. OK, cool.. nope. He turned to me, someone he didn't know, and TOLD me it was my job to look after his mother for the flight. That she was my responsibility. Eh.. nope. I demanded he swap with me. Flight attendant came over. Explained situation. She made him swap. I got 3 seats to myself. If it hadn't been for the demand I care for her, including taking her to the loo, I wouldn't have cared. But HIS mother, HIS responsibility.

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    Andrea Curran
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is it 'always" the people in the 'good' seat that get asked to change? Maybe the passengers in the seats near the other parties would be willing to move. Is it just because we don't hear these stories?

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They don't ask the people in the not good seats. A couple asked me to switch one time, and I was open to the idea. I asked where the spouse's seat was, and if they had asked the other person. It turned out the seat they wanted me to move to was next to MY husband! What are the chances?!?! I told her to go explain the situation to my husband, and I'm sure HE would switch. She didn't like that idea, because it wouldn't be an upgrade. Lol. I don't care about sitting next to my own spouse. We both just read the whole time, so where we sit is irrelevant. * more info: He got a a worse seat that me because he decided to come along last minute.

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    Susie Bennett
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People trying to demand the airplane seat that you paid extra to reserve are like drivers trying to cut into a long exit lane line at the last minute. Most of the time, they were perfectly aware their exit was coming up and decided that they didn't want to wait in line just like everybody else. So they try to cheat the system and create a big mess instead. That said, if they ask nicely, aren't already in my seat when I get there (I've actually had this happen!), and are able to trade an equivalent seat (that same person was trying to get me to take a middle seat!), I'll be happy to switch. But the moment they start acting entitled, then forget it.

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreed. For me, it's all about the attitude. If they are super nice about it, I might even take a downgrade (depending on the situation).

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    amy hipps
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry but by god if i PAID for a better seat i am not giving it up. Not my fault you had kids. Your problem not mine. So sick of society trying to push us childfree individuals to take care and help parents. I chose not to have kids for a reason. If you can't afford to seat all of you together don't expect the rest of us to do it for you.

    Scrolling Panda
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is NOT the customer's job to fix problems caused by an airline. Make the airline fix it. This problem is a DIRECT result of the airline not doing its job. Take the problem to regulatory agencies and governments to mandate that airlines provide block seating AT RESERVATION for people accompanying minors.

    Kirsti-Tina Thompson
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I've paid extra for my seat, either window or more leg room, I'm not moving. They should select their seats before time to ensure they are all sat together instead of leaving it to chance n then guilt tripping people into moving. If it's an equivalent seat I'll move. Last time I flew to the US a little girl on my row's movie screen was busted. I had my tablet with me with lots of series on it, so I happily swapped seats with her so she could watch cartoons on the 9hr flight.

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That was nice of you. I once paid for an in-flight move and let the kid next to me share my headphones, so he could watch too. He was so cute! He shared his M&Ms with me. Interesting note: He was about 10 years old, and his mom didn't ask me to switch seats with her. When she got him seated, she told me her name, that she was sitting a few rows back, and to yell for her if he misbehaved.

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    day light
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't help but point out that OP has a disability emoji in her display name, so I'll say this. traveling with a disability is hard, especially if you're a wheelchair user. it's incredibly stressful and can cause chronic pain flare ups. when it comes to the end of the day, once you're settled in a seat, you do your damn best to stay in that seat for the whole duration of the flight, avoiding getting up to even use the bathroom because you're in so much pain already. it's selfish to ask someone to move because you went the budget route of not booking your seats together. this is all without mentioning how many of us with disabilities would love to be parents, but choose not to be because we aren't selfish (passing down our disability, not having enough energy to give a child a happy life, not being in financial stability because SSI isn't liveable) it's almost like it's being rubbed in our faces that we're less important than you because we are childless

    LuckyTanuki
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yea but it's Twitter.... I'd take that with such a big grain of salt id die from it. For all we know her "disability" is that she is socially awkward or some other bull**** one. Twitter users love to make themselves stand out and act like their problems are bigger than the rest of us.

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    Lesley Christie
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think what she means is that a lot of the time when you are single you ate made to feel like your time, your life isn't worth as much because you are not sharing it with someone else. It could be that you are expected to have last choice of annual leave or that people expect you to always be available because hey , you'd only be on your own anyway. These things all build up until one day you've just had enough and I think that's where this person is. Being single, on your own, in your own company is a valid way to live a successful life. Until society starts to realise this, people on their own might be a bit spikey as we are just sick and tired of being made to feel like we only exist to do things for other people because our holiday, weekend etc can't possibly be enjoyable because we're not spending it with someone else. Expendable is exactly how you start to feel.

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a boss tell me it shouldn't be a big deal to work till midnight because I didn't have a family to go home to. The audacity! I pointed out that since there is no one waiting for me at home, no one would know if I didn't make it home. I told her she would need to stay on the phone with me for my entire, hour-long commute, from 12am-1am; otherwise, I wasn't staying. Lol.

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    Charlie
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its incredible how people are quick to draw conclusions. I m a Gen X and this happened when i was younger and my father took the lone seat so i could sit with my mom. No one died. I could've sat by myself and wouldn't have died. So please. It's difficult enough to be in a sardine can full of humans for a few hours. Can you be allowed to do what you want with your plane purchased ticket and not be considered a d**k. Whatever her reasons, i m sure there was a past situation, is none of our business to judge how she put this. For those who thinks it's mandatory by using children as back ul, she didn't have to move. End of story.

    Upstaged75
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Last year on a Southwest flight (where it's open seating - first come first serve) a father threw a fit because his family was last getting on the plane and there were no seats together. Not a single person offered to give up their seat. Including me. :) Even the flight attendant told him tough luck - that's how Southwest works. But as there WAS an open seat next to me and I told the guy I'd be happy to look out for his kid. (I used to be a nanny and I like children.) The kid turned out to be lovely and he read a book (an actual paper one!) the whole time after I helped him with his seatbelt. The father ended up sitting directly behind him so it's not like he ended up far away. I set an alarm to check in early so I could get a good seat. Most people know to do this or they pay extra to board first. Frankly it was not anyone's problem that the guy didn't bother to do the same for his family so they could sit together..

    Dan G
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Southwest airlines boarded a mother and infant standby. When the man sitting next to me volunteered to move, i was told give up the window seat. We don't care if you get motion sick. If your do not obey us we will have to have you removed from this airplane. But all the alcohol you can drink is free. I told them I don't drink. They said that's too bad.

    Lee
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It honestly depends on the way a person asks, rather than the request itself. If they are polite I will gladly switch. If it suddenly becomes a demand or something I "have" to do, as the article says, I will be glued to that seat the whole flight. Fortunately I truly believe most parents would just ask me and it would be no issue.

    Tumbah
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another example of a corporation pitting it's customers against one another. Why are people getting mad at this woman for not giving up the seat she paid for? If you travel with children it's your responsibility to ensure that your seats are booked together. If that's not possible through the app/online, it is the airline's responsibility to ensure that you are seated together. No one should EVER be criticized for not giving up their seat to accommodate the failure of the airline.

    SofaKing
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is an etiquette among us that fly a lot to the asking/giving seat changes. One never ask for a better seat. Two, if it's that important, the asker should offer a better seat. Three, it's okay to ask for window or aisle but don't be mad if you get a no. Four, you are a jerk if you get asked to swap like for like seats (aisle, window, legroom) and you say no.

    MoJo1979
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will also die on this hill. If I have paid extra to reserve a seat or even paid nothing but reserved the seat I'd feel most comfortable in, it is my seat and I will not sit elsewhere. It is the parents and airlines responsibility to ensure that their children are sat with them, not mine.

    Cris Francois
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone paid extra for their seat, it’s not an even exchange. If someone is asked to move from window aisle- it’s not an even exchange.

    Susn Padme
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NO! NO! NO! I will not change my seat. Especially not because of soneone else's bad planning. Yeah, you may call me Karen or whatever...I don't care. These are your kids, you manage your seating arrangements well ahead of time as I do/did. No!

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I might switch if the family got split up because their original flight got cancelled and they had to re-book. There is pretty much zero chance they are going to get seats together when that happens, through no fault of their own. But how do I know they are telling the truth?

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    Kirstin Blueskies
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have some time had a book flights where there's little time between switching flights. So I need to get off in a hurry. It's a swap is going to put me in a better position to get off great if not and could perhaps hinder me from making my connecting flight no. Also depends on how people ask if it's nice yes it's demanding and expecting to be so because they have children no

    Roxy Hall
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I paid for my seat with my child. I flew Southwest, American Airlines and others. I never had a problem with seating me and my child together. I double checked at the front desk or the gate to make sure we are together. Not him at the window and me aside with someone in-between, together at the hip. Parents need to make sure all their little ones are together with them. The older ones can sit by themselves. Make sure the attendants know “hey my child is 11 or whatever and this their seat, can you keep an eye on them as I’m in the back?” Not hard. Don’t bother the other passengers for not checking ahead.

    Kieran N
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents always managed to book seats next to my sister and I. It can be done. I don't understand this entitlement to someone else's seat

    Noel Bovae
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's one thing to ASK for a person to switch seats, it's another to EXPECT someone to switch seats just because you asked.

    Margaret Howard
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t fly and even I can tell you better book seats together because my skinny white a**e isn’t moving for birthers

    Janet Howe
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I have paid more for a seat, such as the window seat, I probably would not move. I think families should make arrangements to sit together when they book.

    Christopher Denney
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely NOPE. I pay extra for my seat typically. I know for a fact that other people find the cheapest seats they can then try to guilt others into switching with them for better seats. I know this because they brag about it while waiting to board.

    Frozengeckolover
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of cousins does that, so I also know for a fact that some parents do it on purpose.

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    Peter Arriaga
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Very simple for families with small children booking tickets online: avoid the Basic Economy fare where you don't have control of picking your seats! Buy a standard ticket so you can lock in your seating immediately, and not wait until you arrive at the airport and realize the flight is full and you have to beg the gate agent or people already on board and comfortable to move so you can be with your kids!

    Adam Zad
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is no one suggesting the child swap with the person sitting next to the mother?

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because that is usually a worse seat. That is what makes people think they did it on purpose, for a free upgrade.

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    lenka
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We should be blaming the airlines here. I have booked multiple flights and paid for seats to ensure that my children are next to me. On more than one occasion, and once for a long haul (14 hour flight), the airline has changed the seat and put my 2 year old somewhere else in the plane. Even when you book and pay for specific seats, the airline will not guarantee them. [Most] parents do the right thing and most are not asking for special treatment. Airlines should be forced to accommodate seating for minors at time of booking, rather than leaving it be a shitshow at boarding.

    Ferdinand Zabukovnik
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and what did You as a parent? How have they explained to anybody that they have put 2 year old kid anywhere except near parent or legal guardian? Even low-cost irish airline clearly states: For safety reasons, children under the age of 12 must sit beside an accompanying adult, and infants (aged 8 days to 23 months inclusive) must sit on an accompanying adult’s lap.

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    DrBronxx
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We're going on a long haul flight in less than two weeks. We're travelling with our 5-month-old baby. As soon as possible after we booked our tickets, we contacted the airline to ensure that we would have seats together, with a bassinet. We did this months ago. The systems must not be the same everywhere, because this is an absolute no-brainer to me; if you travel with kids, get your seats booked as early in advance as possible.

    lenka
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do this too. Pay extra for allocated seating and we still get separated from the kids sometimes.

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    T McKray
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    entitlement at its finest. your responsibilities are NOT mine; i don't recall anyone asking for help to make the baby. maybe think before you have unprotected sex

    Lytse Draak
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a difference between asking and demanding, and OP didn't specify it was either. Nor did OP specify if the parent asked because they failed to plan or because the airline messed up.

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    Tom Herman
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Parents need to plan ahead. I pay extra for Business or First Class so it usually doesn't come up. The rare times it did worked out as it was actually an upgrade for me. It depends on the situation.

    Gargaroth the Devourer
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look, I think it's a nice thing to do and would make that family's day. HOWEVER, they are not entitled to someone else's seat, and you do not have to give them your seat, especially if you payed specifically for it. It is a personal choice, and no one should judge

    Lunicia the crazy healer
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can someone explain to me the situation a little bit more? English isn't my first language. I didn't fly often, but whenever I flew with my kids, I had to book and pay for the seats I chose for us and we never got split up. Is this common in the US to get seated somewhere else and thus get split from your partner or kids?

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I honestly do not think it's common for US airlines to split parents from children. It usually only happens with cheap tickets (no guarantee on seats), late booking (parent's fault), or re-booking (cancelled flight, so they squeeze you onto another flight). With re-booking, the airline cannot guarantee assigned seats, but they should still have some way to deal with children. Airline attendants used to ask other passengers if they were willing to switch in that situation. I never minded switching, because I knew it was legitimate. Now, the airlines do not handle it, so you do not know if you are being scammed.

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    Beth H
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Need to start putting the onus on the airlines. It's absolutely absurd that a child would be seated amongst strangers. Especially if the child was under 15. Sometimes these so called "entitled" parents got screwed even though they tried to pick seats together. So much weird resentment towards parents and kids on here.

    Sebastian Smades
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That almost never happens. Only if there’s a last minute snafu that forces them to put you on a different aircraft or rebook you onto a different flight so they can’t honor the seats you chose. And who cares. Life happens. It isn’t always perfect. You’re not gonna die if you have to spend 3h away from your kid.

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    shahmudin karim
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not me especially when i have made special meal arrangements n i dont my food to be messed up

    tsuki nercua
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on the seat. If its an upgrade, I'll gladly switch. If I'll be sandwiched in their family, I switch. If the new seat is at the very back near the restroom, thats a no.

    Arlene
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, not gonna move. I usually pay for my seat to be near the aisle so I can pee and it clamber over people. You’re a parent, plan better.

    Dianna Hampton
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For the record, we have paid to have our seats together or booked seats together only to find the day of the flight or even right as we're checking in that our seats were changed. When you call ahead to "fix the mistake" and wait on hold to get transferred from person to person and then no one actually helps you...you're stuck asking the gate agent who tells you they are sorry, try asking to switch when you board the plane. I don't think people should be forced to switch. I believe it's kind and wise to allow parents to keep their kids safe and comfortable so everyone has the best flight possible. I do firmly believe airlines should be heavily fined for these seating changes when they involve minors and fined still when they separate people who purchased their tickets together. People have anxiety and trauma and still have to fly. There are funerals and sick Aunties and Grannies. Last minute changes can deeply effect mental health, kids need care, it more than an inconvenience.

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read the fine print when you book your tickets. If it says assigned seats are not guaranteed, that's on you. This usually happens with cheaper tickets. That's why they are cheap; you can be re-assigned, or bumped. Also, the person you try to switch with may have anxiety, mental issues, or a sick grandma. You don't know. It's not your problem to know, just like it's not their problem to know about your issues.

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    Sammie 19
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I haven't flown for a while but I did some years ago with my 3 kids. Ryanair were incredibly helpful. I was a single parent and the seats were 3 in a row and because I wasn't flying with anyone I was told that my eldest had been booked to sit in front of my seats BUT I needed to find another passenger that would take responsibility for her incase of emergency. I understood that. Luckily each time there was a grandma type woman who said she would love to sit beside my eldest daughter. Plus she got to board early with us. Ryanair were awesome.

    Lytse Draak
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP didn't specify she paid extra for the seat or that the other person came with an unreasonable demand. It's also not always poor planning as sometimes airlines mess up and people don't end up in the seats they paid for, so there is room for a lot of speculation with this post. I understand not wanting to downgrade your seat, especially if someone starts demanding though. I'd ask to swap if I don't end up next to my child, but if you refuse, enjoy sitting the rest of the flight next to my child who has no filter (autism) and talks about anything and everything he comes up with.

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Haha! Free in-flight entertainment, courtesy of your son 🤣. I worked with a kid who would quote an entire movie script if you told him you hadn't seen a movie. He would only stop of you gave him a piece of gum; he couldn't chew and talk at the same time.

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    Kerri
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can understand in some situations for not moving, but I think in general people should move so parents can be with their children, especially is the parent is not trying to be rude. My brother and I used to fly a lot to visit our dad who lived across the country. When we were younger, we always had one of our parents fly with us. My brother has autism, and it effects him pretty significantly. He would have to sit next to whichever parent, because of he didn't, it would be a major meltdown. This would include screaming, threatening to kill himself (which he most definitely could not do then), trying to hurt himself, and possibly attempting to hurt others if it escalated enough. All of that would be easily avoided if a parent was allowed to sit with them. Often, children need a lot of help, even if they are neurotypical and do not have a disability. It is not a huge inconvenience to move, unless you have a good reason. This lady did not know the situation of the parent or children...

    Rain Anderson
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In general it's not other people's business to move . Either talk to airline authority or deal with it .

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    Lyn Redman
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like an aisle seat, I pay extra for it. Those who expect getting a particular seat for free are grifters. Entitled nonentities

    Ambry Petersen
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's sad that the few times they actually encounter entitled parents is used as an excuse to hate all parents. You never hear of the times parents willingly switch to inferior seats to be next to thier kids. Sometimes the childless can be pretty entitled too. Thier children aren't your problem fine, but you also have to accept that you, your problems, and your convenience are not that parent's problem either. Parents are responsible for thier children, not the grown up adults around them. As a parent you work with what you got, and most of the time what you got to work with amounts to diddly squat.

    Carla Olavarría
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yours and your kids needs are not my problem. your cheapness or your lack of planning is not my problem

    Joseph Matthews
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "my life is not expendable." Its a seat Becky. A seat identical to the dozens of others on the plane. You'd think they were asking her to ride strapped to the wing or something. It's a seat, not your 'life.' You're just being rude and that's fine. You are allowed to be rude. It's the exact same principle as giving your seat up on the bus to an elderly person or pregnant woman, you didn't grow old or knock them up either but it's just something nice you can do (or don't!) If this is such an inconvenience imagine if she was asked to do something actually hard.

    Wim Cossement
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    God damnit, enough of this entitlement or Karen stories. You get what you pay for but no-one owns you s**t.

    michele mbennett101044@yahoo.c
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ummm…sorry mom, but it’s YOUR responsibility to book seats to accommodate you and your child/children, NOT some random stranger who had the foresight to book THEIR seat. NOPE not changing seats, end of conversation! It’s just plain RUDE and ENTITLED to be so presumptuous as to ask/demand that of anyone, let alone a stranger.

    Matt R
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a scenario where a lot depends. Personally when I fly I mostly fly Southwest (no pre-assigned seating). In that scenario, if asked nicely I would gladly swap seats with a parent wanting to sit closer to their children. On the flip side, if I am flying Delta, Alaska Air, or another airline with pre-assigned seating I would not switch. I paid for a specific seat and the failure to plan on the part of the parents does not constitute an emergency on my part

    13th死神
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just choose the damn seats from the he start and that's it , holly s**t u ppl make such a big issue out of the smallest easyest things to work out and fix

    J Santos
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol if I had to choose between sitting beside an UNSUPERVISED child or swtiching seats with parent, I will 100% choose switching seats. Heck, I switch with a child, if that means EVERYONE can have a peaceful plane ride lol. I guess this person LOVES babysitting for free lol

    KL Best
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back when I flew a lot on business (very rare flying for personal reasons), if I discovered young kids and their adult companion(s) were separated, I'd *offer* to change seats. Parents were always xxx appreciative. My first preference would be the aisle, not window, anyway. If asked, I prob would agree so long as I didn't end up in the last row. But my airplane trips preceded paying for specific seats - I didn't even know this had become a thing. Wow.

    Courtney
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I recently had a trip from west coast to New York. Going there was lovely! Minneapolis layover meant 2 decent length flights. Wonderful vacation! On the way back….oh geez 🙄 I have never felt more rage on a flight in my life. We had a longer light and I ended up in a window seat with a family of 3 and dog in the row behind me. The family strapped their toddler in his seat directly behind me and of the 5 hr flight he screamed, whined and kicked my seat for 3.5 hrs of it. The dad was asleep most of the flight in his aisle seat, mom was in the middle seat with the dog in her lap and occasionally tried to console her demon spawn. Kids are part of society and deserve to use public spaces. But it’s the parents job to manage them and plan accordingly. I don’t know their situation but did they really need to bring a lap dog? put the kid in the middle seat so both parents can deal. They had other family on the that could have helped. A little more planning could have saved everyone some stress.

    danile342000@yahoo.com
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once booked two seats together for myself and young son. The airline switched them on me. My son was sitting several rows behind me so I asked someone next to him to switch. He got a better seat and I sat next to my son. Sometimes, the airline messes up.

    De Nilla
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As usual, people pitted against one another over the actions of corporations.

    William Teach
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I paid for my seat. Some seats cost extra. I will not switch unless it is a better seat. You should have thought about this when booking a flight. Nor will I watch your kids. But, in Reality Land, I've never seen this happen in all the times I've flown. I have a feeling this whole "moms asking to switch seats" thing is mostly made up by people looking for social media cred.

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't recall ever being asked to switch by a parent. I've sat beside many stranger's kids, and the parents didn't ask to switch. But I have a cousin who brags about doing this, so it does happen. The ones who always ask me to switch are couples, and it's always for a worse seat. I'm pretty sure two grown adults can survive without each other for a few hours.

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    Tiramisu
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, but a valid point was made. The parent wants to sit with child to take care of them. If you’re refusing to move and the parent is seated somewhat far away, they can’t be there every moment to take care of them. Then that becomes an even bigger inconvenience to you, having a crying or annoying child doing things unsupervised because parent can’t see it and isn’t allowed to get up from their seat.

    Eledore Massis
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If child has been decently raised: sorry, let me take care of this child, give it a new expriemce and you enjoy the flight.. Otherwise, sure let's swap and I will give your some ducktape from my bag.

    Jen L
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a hot button issue because it is part of a larger argument; people with kids get ahead almost everywhere and you are single you just have to lump it. The person with kids next to you at the office has twice as many sick days, as does their partner. The company (ie, Xmas party or picnic) spends $$ for the kids….nothing if you don’t have them. The world is set up like this. Parents do not ‘see’ this because they would be forced to agree.

    Jericho Kilmister
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That sounds like yet another U.S. problem. Never been asked to switch seats, never seen a company that does not give the option to choose your seats. So if it ever happens that someone asks me to switch, hard no. I pay to chiose my seat, you could have done the same

    Danish Susanne
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is a surprise to me, that if the children are in economy class and the parents in business, that they cannot find someone in economy to change their places to business class so that the adults can sit with their children (hope my irony is clear)

    Anne
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not a life or death inconvenience, but I'm very picky where I sit in a plane and I am willing to pay for that seat (and above 3 hours I fly business/first). I have had people try to make me switch with their kid in economy while I was in first. I was 18 or 19 at the time. Yeah nope. Just because I'm young, does not mean i'm a push over... I did have to call the flight attendant on that one.

    Kevin Noonan
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From what someone said airline seating isn't life or death. I disagree. Case in point . There was a plane crash years ago and a friend of my mom's was on that plane. During the flight they were sitting chatting with someone in different seats that were "vacant". Then the Capt. Said to have everyone return to your original seating. Moments later the plane crashed, those seats they were in wile mingling got ejected from the plane. There's we're fine. Moral of the story if they had not been were they were assigned on the plane when it crashed they would have been presumed doa. Because that's how they keep track of who's still on the plane wile your bucked in. Assigned seats for a reason.

    Nickie Chan
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, coming from a man who has a kid. No. Its on the family to plan and choose the seats when they book the flight. Why would you depend on strangers to be kind to you and your family? Plan it, book it, secure the f*****g seats.

    Dawn Harris
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you book a flight for a family trip, you choose your seats at that time I'm not moving because you didn't plan ahead This is ridiculous, but I do understand that flying nowadays is the worst experience ever, which goes back to getting the seats you want at booking 🤷‍♀️

    Kim Morrison
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just tell the airline when you book the tickets that you have minor children. If that’s not possible tell the people you check your baggage in with! Look at your tickets with the seat on them AS SOON as you get them! In the aisle of the plane itself is NOT the place to address this problem! At the very latest address it with the gate personnel before you board the plane. These are the people who can actually do something about it! For the love of all that is sacred look at your 🦆ing tickets before you board the plane!!

    Karen Foster-Yonkers
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, who in their right mind who doesn’t have kids would want to sit next to them anyway who is squirming, talking, and being the bratty selves that kids that are!? I would gladly move if I had to sit next to kids for hours (even 1) on a plane! In fact, I would be the one begging and trying to pay off another passenger for their quiet seat!! LOL

    hhh cubed
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could we please just assign the blame where it needs to be, on the airlines. Why they need to charge passengers for *choosing* their seat is the real problem here and is down to nothing more than greed. This is an unfair money grabbing practice that impacts a family more than a solo traveler. That being said, I am not likely to give up my window seat if I chose and paid for it.

    Kathy Gallagher
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Darn, we don't like the seats in the back although there's 4 together. There's a bunch closer to the exit. We'll book those and expect people to accommodate us; never mind those who paid more or have mobility issues that need aisle seats. We will expect them to move. If they won't, we'll create a scene until they do!" This has become a standard behavior and even has a website telling people how to do this. It is also why some people will dig in their heels and refuse to switch.

    Kevin Felton
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's a little obnoxious with the "expendable" comment, but she's still 100% right. I'm tired of these walking uteruses who think the world owes them something because they were unable to puzzle out the rubiks cube that is the modern prophylaxis. Your kids are your problem, not mine.

    Sonja
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It depends. If the seat I'm offered is better or at least equal I'd do it, if the seat is uncomfortable or in any other way bad, I'd assume they're using the child as excuse to get better seats and tell them to touch grass.

    Chantale Jeanne
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The issue is that families book seats together and they are taken. american airlines esp. I have paid for seats and have been told I didn't check in in time. Except I was on a connecting flight and literally had checked in 5-6 hours earlier. Ie travelling from Toronto to NYC to another city in USA. How do I go up to their counter and ask for my tickets back? They say no. Then go in and the people are aggressive too, even the ones that took my booked seats. How do families do what's needed to be done? I was told once to put my 2 yo girl between 2 arrangers as both strangers took my own seats. Stop blaming parents, start blaming airlines.

    Rich Lavalle
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you have children and need to sit together, instead of booking the tickets online yourself why not call the airline directly and book through them. Explain you have a family of three and you need to sit together. Simple as that. It may cost you more, but that's because you have children that you chose to have. It costs a lot of money for children in general.

    Della
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "expendable"?? "Ruined"?? Wow, what a load of drama! If the plane goes down, it's the WHOLE plane and I suspect your life was ruined well before a seat change. Just hope you never have to ask a stranger for a small favor.

    Charity Angel
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think a lot of people missed that this clearly turned into a bigger rant than just about airline seats. I get the feeling OP has experienced the workplace "can you move your vacation time because [x] has kids and that's the school holiday?", or similar requests to adjust for colleagues with kids. Probably also family trying to dump their kids on her "because she doesn't have kids so she won't have any plans, she can help out".

    Mym B
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I paid for my seat. Pay for your group to be together or drive.

    Kristina Cowan
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends, if I pay and reserve a seat and someone tells me to leave that seat for their convenience, I will not move. I paid and reserved that seat already. That is my exception. I do like to accommodate if it's necessary though.

    Summer Sunshine
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This could all be alleviated if every airline allowed everyone to choose their seats at booking without an extra fee.

    Angela Allen Simms
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Today, you need a sun dial, google maps and a mole in air traffic control to make flight even close to where you want to go!!!! I'm a aisle seat rider. I PAY for a aisle seat even when I fly 1st class. If you're gonna be a bully with my well planned, may be disrupted without help from someone who doesn't give a damn about my plans then you should ignore my ignoring you.

    Karen Kempler
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is something fishy about a parent who requested the change in order to "sit next to" their child. If the seat configuration is 3-3 and Becky had a window seat, then the child is already sitting next to their parent. If the parent is requesting the switch so their darling can have a window seat, then the parent should switch their aisle seat for the window seat. I would never switch an aisle or window seat for a middle seat. Additionally, how far away from your child can you be when you're crammed into a sealed tube? The parents in Home Alone intentionally put their children in coach so they could enjoy first class!

    Kirsten Walstedt
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want your family to sit together, buy seats together. That's between you and the airlines. It's nothing to do with me

    Tricia Gerbino
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry, too bad, you planned poorly. I used to be an usher @ our local Church & always during high holy days like Ash Wednesday, we'd get the Holy Rollers pretending to be Catholic for 1 hr that day & 8 am mass would get overly crowded even with people with children, I never gave up my sweat for them, why would I have to be inconvenienced to stand for a full hour & a half??? That mass was always longer especially, after, I let so, many other people into the pew I was sitting in & there was literally no room anywhere, then, I'd get yelled @ by older women cause they needed a seat, first come, first served, so, no, too bad on you, I'm not swapping seats especially one I paid for

    Shark Lady
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once flew from Germany back to the UK, the airline experienced a glitch which meant we had to check in once we reached the airport, unfortunately a sports team was ahead of us and they bagged nearly all the window and aisle seats. Daughter, partner and I were in random middle seats nowhere near each other. Luckily said daughter was just old enough at 12 to not need to be sat next to me because I would not have liked to ask anyone to swap with!

    Cindy Brower
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As much as I plan, or even pay extra to make sure I have 2 seats directly next to each other, the airline messes up, or overbooks, or whatever the case may be , somehow my $38.00 upgrade per seat at early check-in, now means nothing, and even though I made sure to plan ahead, pay the little fees , I still had to end up feeling like the idiot when I had to ask someone to move. Ask the Flight attendance for assistance, no, they can't help u .

    Ferdinand Zabukovnik
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    eeee ... when overbooking they don't board You. Have You asked for reimbursment? Is in Your state mandatory via legal requirements? They have sold you something, you paid something, they didn't deliver something that they took money for. In my country is regulated (and no matter what, I can not sue them) so I know what they must give me if i remain on ground because airline is not able to provide what they took money for.

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    Joann Hart
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's been a few years since I've flown. I can remember purchasing tickets and selecting seats together but when the day came...we were nowhere near each other. I hope the kid next to her filled his pants :)

    Elizabeth Pa
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my now 19 year old was a toddler, I paid for his seat and I brought his car seat for him to sit on. I booked the window seat for him and the middle seat for me. Our first flight was delayed so I had time to get off the plane, change his diaper, and go to this second plane. We were one of the last to board because our first flight was delayed. I get to my assigned seat and a woman was sitting in it. Her boyfriend was in the aisle seat and she refused to move. She told me to sit in the seat in front of her boyfriend because she wasn't moving. She wanted me to leave my toddler by himself next to her. The flight attendant intervened. The couple sitting next to where the woman was supposed to sit volunteered to separate on their flight so my son and I could sit together. It's not just parents with children who are @$$e$.

    Death Metal Kitty
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, imagine lashing out against Karens so badly, you become one of them.

    Meghan Wood
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The real question is: do YOU want to sit next to my child on a 3 hour flight, or would you rather it be me? I’m fine either way.

    Frozengeckolover
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on how horrible your kid is. I've sat next to unaccompanied minors with no issue. Your kid must be a monster for you to think this is a good ultimatum.

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    Na its cool, ill just have my 14 year old autisic son with really bad adhd sit next them and ask them 11ty billion questions about birds while i go to my seat and take a well earned nap. And dont get mad at me if he smacks you in the face on accident with his non stop arm flapping whilst making odd mouth noises, thats your problem now. We can make it really fun and i can have his 7 year sister sit on the other side of you so they can fight with each other while youre trapped in the middle. Dont wanna switch seats, thats cool, you can be my kids parent for a few hours. Mommy's on vacation.

    Ferdinand Zabukovnik
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are You not legally responsible for kid until certain age? Where do You live? Do You hate kids? Are You even a parent? I am not sure if this is sarcasm or are You really prepared to put your kid through ordeal because of incopetent airline or/and poor planing ...

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    Matt Smolensky
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    1 year ago (edited)

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    What a jerk ... can't stand "childfree" selfish jerks who can't be bothered to help out a parent and child. You people will only have a future economy to selfishly take advantage of because those of us who have kids chose to do so. So yeah, those of us who have secured the worlds future instead of just our own DO deserve preferential treatment for airline seats, break time, vacation time, restaurant seating, you name it. And instead of complaining, you can do it while thanking us for giving you a world to live in.

    Mbfsc63
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Still doesn't entitle you to someone else's seat they PAID to choose.........also you most certainly did not give me the world I live in.

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    1 year ago

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