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“I Just Said Thank You And Left”: Man’s Nice Gesture Is Praised After Pizza Hut Driver Got A $20 Tip On A $938 Order
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“I Just Said Thank You And Left”: Man’s Nice Gesture Is Praised After Pizza Hut Driver Got A $20 Tip On A $938 Order

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In the United States today, there’s an expectation to leave a generous tip regardless of the service. However, this usually baffles outsiders. Why do so many American workers heavily rely on tips instead of getting a steady, livable wage paid by the establishment? Call it a systematic practice or the backbone of the service culture, it’s still an unsolved mystery many of us cannot wrap our heads around.

But while businesses offload the burden of giving workers a fair paycheck to the customers, employees are often the ones who pay the price. And a recent post on the Anti Work subreddit is a perfect example of how big of a toll this approach has on them. Redditor ShaolinJohn, who works security at an office in Dallas, Texas, opened up about an encounter with a struggling Pizza Hut delivery driver he had a few nights ago.

You see, the worker couldn’t hold back her excitement about a giant $938 order she was about to deliver and the tip that would possibly follow. “It’s hard out there,” the mother-of-two told the user as she carried dozens of boxes onto the elevator. But when she came down, both her excitement and hopes of putting some extra cash in her pocket were gone. Read on for the story and the heated discussion that followed, and be sure to share your own takes on the tipping conundrum in the comments.

Recently, an excited Pizza Hut delivery driver was let down by a corporate party who gave her a $20 tip for a giant $938 order

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Bored Panda reached out to ShaolinJohn who was kind enough to answer some of our questions about the incident. The user explained that he shared the story on the Anti Work subreddit because he knows it to be a place “for shining lights on the injustices of the current state of how workers are treated.”

“I was pretty shocked at how quickly it happened to blow up,” he told us. “I also didn’t realize how much of a hot button topic tipping is.” ShaolinJohn pointed out that the main reason this post resonated with many customers and employees is simply that “the service industry is enormous. Everyone is a customer to something related to the service industry.”

When asked about the tipping culture in the US, the user told us, “[It] is one of the biggest scams against low-wage workers in the country. It’s exploitative and is only kept in place by companies as a way to keep labor costs way down by having the customer be the primary source of a worker’s income.” But the problem is, ShaolinJohn noted, tipping isn’t mandatory. “The worker is reliant on the customer feeling generous at that moment. There is no feeling of security as you never know what the whims of a customer are going to be.”

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While 15% to 20% is a typical tip for servers and bartenders (although now 25% might be the new 20%), there is quite a debate as to the appropriate amount of gratitude to a delivery driver. Brett Helling, founder of Ridester, stated that tipping the driver varies widely depending on the items you’re ordering, the platform you’re using, and what happens during the delivery.

But here’s the thing — most drivers’ wages are very much dependent on tips. “[Drivers] are often classified as self-employed, they’re responsible for all their own expenses, sometimes while just making or making under their local minimum hourly wage before gratuity,” Helling wrote. “Due to this, standard tipping etiquette calls for you to tip at least 15% — just as you would a traditional pizza delivery driver, a restaurant server, or even a Lyft or Uber driver.”

Later on, the user added some more information and clarified a few details in the post

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ShaolinJohn revealed that he worked as a waiter for a few years before entering the workforce. “So, I understand the plight of the people in the service industry. This means I don’t have a problem leaving a good tip regardless of service. Fantastic service gets even more from me.” Unfortunately, the user pointed out that there will always be people who don’t believe in tipping “or don’t know that a waiter at a restaurant is only making $2.13 an hour and really needs the tips to get by.”

With inflation hitting a 40-year high and pinching their pockets, signs that Americans will become better tippers are slightly fading. According to a recent survey of 2,610 adults conducted by CreditCards.com, the number of people who always tip fell from 77% in 2019 to 73% in 2022. Moreover, 4% said they never tip. “Inflation is cutting into consumers’ purchasing power and a tight labor market has left many service industry businesses understaffed and struggling to provide top-notch customer experiences,” said senior industry analyst Ted Rossman. He added that the promise one-third of Americans made to be better tippers in 2021 has apparently worn off.

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We were curious to hear ShaolinJohn’s take on what could be done to change this tipping practice to favor the workers and make them feel safer about their income. He told us, “Ideally, the whole system of tipping would be tossed out because companies would pay their workers a livable wage. Or maybe a step before that dramatic change would be for companies to add automatic gratuity onto the bills.”

When it comes to the delivery business, he explained that companies should stop pocketing the ‘delivery fee’ and actually give it to the driver. “I know that one causes a lot of delivery drivers to lose out on tips because people think the delivery fee is for the driver but it’s not,” the user said.

“Even though tipping culture is a scam, until a drastic and immediate change is able to happen, tip your service industry workers. And for those people that justify not tipping because ‘they should just go get a better job,’ stay home and cook for yourself or go pick up your own food instead of having it delivered. Some people have to take [low-paying] jobs due to circumstances we have no idea about. That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to earn a living. Even if it is based on our tips,” ShaolinJohn concluded.

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Ieva Gailiūtė

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Ieva is a writer at Bored Panda who graduated in Scandinavian studies from Vilnius University. After learning the Swedish language and getting completely lost in the world of Scandinavian mythology, she figured out that translating and writing is what she's passionate about. When not writing, Ieva enjoys making jewelry, going on hikes, reading and drinking coffee.

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Ieva Gailiūtė

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Ieva is a writer at Bored Panda who graduated in Scandinavian studies from Vilnius University. After learning the Swedish language and getting completely lost in the world of Scandinavian mythology, she figured out that translating and writing is what she's passionate about. When not writing, Ieva enjoys making jewelry, going on hikes, reading and drinking coffee.

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ggus44
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same old BS tip culture. Hey America, it's time to learn something from some 3rd world countries. Just f*****g pay the employees the decent money they deserve so they don't rely on tips. Plus, this customer is not the a-hole just because they didn't tip $160!

Disgruntled Pelican
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We don't even let women have a say in what happens to their bodies. What makes you think we'll pay any employee a decent wage? The American dream has been reduced to being alive from one day to the next.

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Jef Bateman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered pizza in Texas, and most people didn't tip at all. I once delivered to a guy who was in the process of moving into an apartment straight out of New York. He gave me a $20 tip, and I said, "Man, I can break this for you... it's a big tip." He said that in New York, the pizza would come two hours after he ordered it and the drivers would pitch a fit if they didn't get a good tip. This was quite a while ago--I know the tipping culture is escalating everywhere, so it is probably a little different now. However, I imagine a delivery driver who expects 18% is going to be pretty disappointed every place except New York.

Diane Knight
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even when I go to pick-up my order, I leave a small tip (not 18% mind you) but a few bucks, because I'm soooo thankful that someone else cooked (ha ha). And in the summer, my kitchen didn't get hot either, :p, jest saying

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Nick
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed! The worst is it is spreading into everything else. Your hire someone for a job and are supposed to tip. For example if I take a fishing charter I am supposed to tip the guide 20%?! WTF. They aren't making minimum wage. The are the owner. They make the entire profit of what I paid for the trip. Why do I then need to tip? Just charge me what you want for a service. Same with certain deliveries. They aren't making minimum wage, why am I supposed to tip them? The only one I understand is servers because they are screwed with their base pay. I don't agree with it. Just pay a better wage and charge a little more for my food.

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AndyBloke
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery people expect tips proportion to the value of the item they deliver? If the Amazon driver delivers a package you paid $400 for, do you tip them $40? Do you tip the USPS person 5 cents for each bill they deliver?

Beans
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's different for food apps and its different when you have to unload, unpack, and set up the food. She shoulda left it there and gone tbh.

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Jus
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is crazy. I live in Europe. I order my food and pay for the delivery online. I give no tips to the driver, it's his job, he did nothing special and the food is lukewarm anyway. In a restaurant I will give 10% if I'm very happy with the service. It's considered good manners, but optional. 18% tip for pizza?? Absolutely CRAZY. Pizza is fast food.

Jay Son
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

18% is actually considered on the low end nowadays. Many times, the suggested tips on a receipt (goes too show how it is expected) is often 18%, 20%, and 22%. Some restaurants even list a 25% tip suggestion on the receipt. Oh, and if you come with a party of 6 or more, expect to have the tip already included to the bill and still have a line available to give even more. It's disgusting, honestly.

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Bekaroo
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reason average folks tip and pay better than richies is because average people have usually worked some of these crappy service and food industry jobs. We know they don't pay enough and the only way for these folks to make a living is through tips. And these jobs are HARD. One hour dealing with customers, especially in food service, is way more energy than an hour working at your desk in many cases. The fact that these types of jobs are the lowest paid is just ridiculous to me.

Leonardo Kinach
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing is that pay is based around the amount of people that can do the job, not how hard it is. You can get a gorilla to do hard work for you, but working at a desk requires education

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Id row
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"In the United States today, there’s an expectation to leave a generous tip regardless of the service." Regardless of service? No, there's not. Bad service means a bad tip. I was in the service industry for 9 years, the expectation of a generous tip for bad service is not a thing, unless you're delusional and entitled as hell.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Bad service" is not always the fault of the one providing service. The "face" of the business has to rely on cooks, managers, traffic (in the case of delivery drivers) and several other variables that are often out of their control. Unless the service provider is unnecessarily rude or careless, I always leave a healthy tip to help make up thr difference of people like you.

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Awsomemom52
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping only $20 on a $938 order, is beyond stingy. Regardless of whether the delivery person relies on the tip, because the pay is so poor.

Becca Hauck
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm curious if you also feel that people shouldn't get fast food unless they tip the workers? Delivery drivers get minimum wage, mileage, and tips from most people. They work half as hard. Fast food workers get minimum wage no matter how much food is ordered and how hard they work.

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iseefractals
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'll preface this by saying i always, always always over tipped. Spend $25 on pizza delivery? $10-15 tip depending on whether i was broke or not. Cab drivers would get $10 tip on a $10 fare and waitstaff would almost always get at least $15 on a $30-35 bill (provided the service was good, of course) We tipped our movers $100 apiece. But this expectation that anyone deserves 15-25% of any order regardless of how large it is, is insane. There was a thread somewhere in which a guy ordered a $300 pull of some fancy scotch on his birthday, and everyone was dragging him because he only tipped the bartender $20 when they DESERVED to get $75. I'm not defending the a$$holes that gave this woman a $20 ($50 would have been appropriate) but expecting to get $100, let alone $170 for delivering an order of food is beyond entitled.

Crene
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

US tipping culture still and will probably continue to make zero sense to me. Though I agree with most of what u said but calling them a$$holes doesn't seem right to me. It's really ridiculous and disheartening to think that waitstaffs in the US have been forced to expect and sometimes demand tips because their means of livelihood majorly depends on them. I truly hope things get better for them

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LilliVB
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that the problem is the tipping culture, it's the owner that have to pay a living wage and all of that...That said, until the USA are going to change their laws about wages, there will be always bosses that don't pay a living wage in the food industry, and people working there unfortunately have to rely on the generosity of the tips that they get. So, keep trying to change what the real problem is, but keep on tipping too, because it's not the employees' fault that the tipping culture is still so strong and necessary in their field

Billie Maier
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Soo.... how much of her time did she spend delivering those pizzas? I'll bet it was less than an hour. She is already being paid an average of $15 an hour (google it) So its already at, or over, minimum wage. Why should she EXPECT a tip that is more than what a construction worker makes in an entire day? $20 is a GREAT tip for the amount of work that was done.

Becca Hauck
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's what I was thinking. I've delivered pizzas. It couldn't have taken her more than thirty minutes, including the drive. She wasn't setting up a catering order, she set up pizza boxes .. It's not that involved and even for a $980 order couldn't have taken more than 5 minutes. A bunch of Americans work their behinds off for $8 an hour, sometimes less. This chick made around $30 for this order, plus mileage, for about 30 minutes of work. And she's complaining?!

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Emma Q.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People like this are the worst. Yes tip culture vs paying the worker a good wage sucks but while we live in this not tipping at all or lower than at least 20% is disgusting. If you are against tipping then don't utilize services that require it don't punish the workers ( plus the employers aren't going to change if you still use the establishment)

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you! May you live a long, healthy life! My grandmother (also Emma) just turned 100 years young! That's a good sign! ❤

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Kel Darling
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do waiters get more money for brining me a $29 steak vs a $6 cup of soup? They visit me the same amount of times, do the same service yet the price of the food ordered dictates their tip. You didn't earn more money just because I bought a more expensive item. It's stupid.

Monica Brown
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like a way to send money to the former teacher now a delivery driver. I am a retired teacher and would like to help her so her kids and have a nice summer. I leave good tips because together we can make it through these tough times. I do not understand the lack of empathy and caring of others.

Priyanka Baniya
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a history why tips were encouraged. Tipping culture needs to change. Now please dont start ‘ if you cant tip them cook at home and eat’ then in that case ‘if you not happy with the tips then find a job where you dont rely on tips’.

Laura
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here's one for you - I live in Canada and they bumped up the minimum wage for servers - Yippee! So, do we still tip the same amount? at all? does everyone making minumun wage now to be tipped? Does the person I pay my gas to, or the person selling me stamps at the post office get tipped? When does it stop?

hhh cubed
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hi Laura, I am in Canada as well and those are all good points. I worked at a boutique convectionary company and made only minimum wage, yet I still tipped 20% almost every time but I drew the line at some point because otherwise I couldn't then afford the thing or service that I was paying for. Wait staff? Of course. Food delivery? Yes absolutely, especially in bad weather, and always expressed my gratitude. Here is my main gripe with tipping culture though, if the service is terrible, there is still the expectation of a tip. The guy delivering furniture. No and only because I know he's taking home more money than I am however I am always courteous though and offer water or a cold drink if it's a hot day. My point is, businesses need to be paying everyone a living wage. People like me, a minimum wage earner, shouldn't have to fill the gap.

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Brittany Rose
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping culture is toxic in both ends too. It’s awful that people aren’t given a livable wage without tipping, and needs change. On the flip side, I work two jobs, for seven days a week and I just make enough to cover my own expenses. While I don’t eat out often, sometimes I’ll take my Mom out for a birthday dinner or celebrate something with someone, or maybe I forget to pack my lunch, whatever the case, even though I don’t eat out often there is a pressure to leave a decent tip- even though I barely make enough to cover my own expenses. If we are at a really fancy sit down restaurant I will, or if the service is truly exceptional, but if I’m just grabbing a slice of pizza at the food court, I probably won’t. It’s unreasonable to put that expectation on the customers, and unfair to both the customer and the waiters. It shouldn’t be our responsibility when we aren’t the employer.

Seonag Udell
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This shows why the rich stay rich. They are mainly heartless bastards, that only care about themselves.

Jay S.
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go on strike and let your employers give you a living wage. You wont be the first to do this. Stop complaining when people dont tip, its not mandatory and no ones here to pay for your bills. As hard as it may be, find another job that pays more. Plenty of folks dont become sanitation workers because they dont wanna deal with garbage. Dont wanna deal with low wages? Dont work for a restaurant and then act selfish and get mad people don't tip.

Frod
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people that choose to work in the service industry look at customers like they “own” them at least 20% of whatever they eat or order in a restaurant. This is the first wrong assumption, TIPS is a reward for good service and not an obligation. Unfortunately restaurants pass the burden of paying their waitresses onto their clients and this is also WRONG. Why in the world if my occasional server does a bad or mediocre work, do I need to tip her/him with 20%? No way! Waitresses should be paid a decent wage, but this is not the client obligation to take care for the lack or a decent wage. Now, we all know that many waitresses heard of some other making tons of money on tips, and quite frankly the kitchen people that fixed the meals never get credit for it and earn in general less money than the servers, even though kitchen people wages are higher than the servers. Servers need to get paid decent wages and expect tips based on service quality and not as an income supplement.

Crystal
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You say if they do a “bad” job, but how is it bad? Do you mean they didn’t add ketchup or take the pickle off your burger? We’re the fries cold? Did she/he seem stressed??? You know 90% of the time they are doing a”bad” job is due to the kitchen staff, but she/he gets to be the one to put on the smile and take the brunt of the angry customer, or get stiffed by them..

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Melissa
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At the end of the day people get to spend THEIR money THEIR way. If they choose not to tip people that is their right. I have found tipping has become an expectation and on the whole I do not tip. The minimum wage here is $15/hr and that was when I stopped tipping. I once had a job where customers tipped and I never kept them. I gave it all to favourite charities and I was certainly not making $15/hr.....

Mary Rogers
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Melissa, people who rely on tips generally don't make minimum wage. Our laws exempt employers that use the tip system from that rule. That's the reason they need the tips.

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James G. Currie
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am in both camps here - I believe servers should be paid a wage where they can pay their bills and live at least decently, but at the same time, I believe that good service deserves a tip... The *least* that should have occurred here is the purchase be rounded to $1000

Private
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, #1 the standard tip is 15%. It is a percent, that means the tips increase as the cost of food increases, so the tip % doesn't need to go up with inflation or anything like that. I keep seeing people online (probably mostly servers) keep trying to tell people that the standard tip is 18% or 20%, it is NOT, it is 15%. #2 I find it hard to believe that a security guard laid out $50 of his/her own money to add to a tip for pizza they aren't even going to eat. It's not like security guards make good money. #3 Tipping is OPTIONAL. They are paid minimum wage or more after including tips. If the job doesn't pay enough, get a different job. We all want to make more money, but you can't just demand more money for an unskilled job. You also can't demand that people tip more just because you want more money. Give me a break. Delivery drivers, servers, etc all make at least minimum wage when you add hourly wage to tips, no matter what lies they try to tell you. There are federal laws in place to assure this. Stop lying!!!

Louis
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She wanted ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR DRIVING??? What an entitled little brat. Most people work real jobs and don't make $20 in a hour, let alone an unreported cash tip plus their normal income. Drivers are spoiled and tip-baiting will humble them. The writer of this should feel sad for supporting this clown show smh

Sarah Ries
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did the customer come out and get the food? She did a he'll of a lot more than drive? Can you imagine loading, unloading, reloading into the elevator, unloading and setting up $1000 worth of pizzas? And how bad your car would stink? The problem I have is an order of that size should have an automatic gratuity added in.

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Baby Bleu
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lmao! Why should i be OBLIGATED to pay you? I didn't hire u sir/ma'am. I mean didn't you know the job wasn't gonna pay u well enough BEFORE you applied? Did u say ok these ppl are hiring but they're only paying a dollar an hour. Oh well I'm still going to apply and hassle total strangers into paying me for a c**p job I APPLIED FOR 😂😂😂😂😂 I'm not tipping nothing unless I feel the need to, ridiculous!

David Groth
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her job was to make the delivery and then make another. She’s not a caterer- she didn’t have to set things up. She did extra work of her own accord then expected to be payed a bonus rather than getting back to work. Boohoo, she only was payed what she earned. Don’t like it, get a better job and stop whining.

brian west
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, minimum tipping wages are determined by each state. For example, Alaska and California don't recognize a "tipped wage", so servers are required to make the state minimum,, $10.14 and $14 respectively, just like everyone else. Since this was about Texas specifically, yes, minimum cash wage for tipped employees is $2.13, but employers are also required to provide a supplemented "tipped credit" to its employees at $5.12 an hour, bringing the hourly total to $7.25. That being said, the national average wage for severs across the nation as of June 28, 2022 is $9 an hour. Now, let's take the average wage for a skilled carpenter in california, being $25, packing lumber, sheets of plywood, in triple digit heat with little to no shade. I don't care if someone orders $500 worth of food. In what world do you live in if you think that person driving over a a stack of pizzas deserves the same pay as the man/woman breaking their back, let alone the same hourly wage as my oral surgeon?

David Peters
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but a $20 tip for 20 minutes of their time is $60 per hour. As an employer I am getting sick of people in the food industry expecting to get tipped at such a high rate making you pay them more than a doctor for their hourly rate.

Max M Power
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but a tip is NOT guaranteed, unless stated before ordering. TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service and many people forgot that. I use to work for tips and I was one of the big earners because I took care of my customers. If someone couldn't tip I never said anything about it. Often times I was still taken care of. When I order out or go to a restaurant the tip would depend on the service. I've eaten at places where I was ignored to the point I had to get my own drinks, she got nothing. I've been to places where the tip was almost as much as the meal because my server was very friendly. Most people now a days feel entitled and shouldn't have to hustle for what they get.

Harley Q
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is NOT my job to ensure anyone is making a living wage. I worked in hospitality for 29 years. Paid under $5/HR & needed tips to live. But now they get $16/HR to flip burgers & deliver pizza! No more 20% tip when you make $16/hour. Are you kidding me? Nobody tips me for being quick to pay tgeir bills or get their cash for them. IT'S MY JOB. If you don't like your job or don't get paid enough..... GET A NEW JOB

Id row
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It was ridiculous to expect a $168 tip for delivering pizzas. Anywhere between 50 and 75 would have been really good. She's not using 50x the gas in her car just because there's more wings and bread sticks. Also, delivery drivers make a regular wage, unlike wait staff. So, assuming it took her 2 hours, which I doubt, and got tipped $50, that's $25/hr + her wage, which brings it up to over $45/hr for delivering pizza (Pizza Hut pays their delivery drivers a national average of $16/hr). It's not reasonable to expect more than that for that job. In fact, that's a great hourly wage.

MysticMerman
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery drivers are paid by the delivery, not "a regular wage." It's piece work. If you're idly waiting for an order, you are not making a wage. UberEats pays as low as $2.50 for an order that might take 12 minutes, but is usually longer because you have to wait at the restaurant, there's a bad accident, you can't find the apartment building because it's dark and impossible to see building numbers, or the customer expects you to find parking in an urban area and take an elevator to the 17th floor. Trust me, it's not a great hourly wage. Add onto this the cost of gas and maintaining your car, and it's sometimes a loss. Good try, though.

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Emily Oxley
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you order a ten dollar pizza from 2 blocks away ,you tip eight dollars and the delivery person who is on her phone complains about the tip to who she is talking to.I will NEVER order delivery ever again .

Stephen LaPointe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, what about the places where you go to pick up your food, and I have a Chinese restaurant I go to where only the son feels he deserves a tip for taking my cash and giving me my change. The others don't press that option on the interac machine, he always does. Gets upset if I don't tip and I will never tip for pick up. If the kitchen staff received some of it sure. But the brat gets 0.

Travis Pilcher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know when you last checked a servers hourly pay but it's no longer $2.13 an hour it's up to 9 or 10 an hour now plus tips

Bobblahblah
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but the delivery driver in this story sounds like an entitled prick. You're a DELIVERY DRIVER NOT A WAITER/WAITRESS. So by this entitled delivery drivers logic I'm suppose to tip $180 on a $1000 amazon delivery? Get f***ed GFY. Delivery drivers don't deserve a tip over $20 you aren't doing anything besides bringing items from point A to point B you aren't ACTUALLY providing any service worth a larger tip

Keila Lambert
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just because it’s a company credit card, it does not mean you can spend whatever you want or add a huge tip on the bill. You need to report every penny spent on the company credit card and there is a team who reviews the receipts. Managers have to approve it and they would question you on what’s put on the credit card. This article is blaming the wrong people for a faulty system. I suggest the driver should get a better job that pays actual wages or lower her expectations.

Jeff King
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are we even sure that the delivery person was even telling the truth about the tip? It sounds the door guy got "worked" for his sympathetic nature. I am seeing it a lot lately with delivery people telling me their life's story for no reason other than to try to pull at my heart strings to open my wallet. I have to admit people are cheap sometimes but that's the breaks when you're a delivery person, you have to take the good and the bad. When someone tries to hustle me it shuts my wallet tighter.

Trixi Black
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This. If you tell me about your financial troubles I automatically assume you're trying to get something out of me and I stop the conversation right there. Offering up your financial situation to people you don't know screams I'm looking for sympathy. We all have problems. My first reaction isn't to tell someone it's hard making ends meet.

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Willie Fox
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We stopped doing delivery pizza they charge you 10 bucks for delivery then the driver wants 20%. I can save 20 bucks and just go get it myself .

Willie Fox
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of these pizza delivery places charge you an arm and a leg for extra for delivery charges . You pay the extra 10 bucks for delivery then they want you to pay the driver 20%. We stopped doing delivery because of all of the extra charges . I can save 20 dollars and just go pick it up myself .

Jennifer Germain
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate the tip culture but you get your food much cheaper than if they were paid more. I always tip 20% period. They could afford almost $1000 of food but tipped so little, shitty people

Rob Hynes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a tipped employee for a long time and will tell you there's no way I can make as much with just a wage as I can with tips. I know I'm not coming home after only 4 hours work with close to 300 bucks sometimes if I got a wage. Yes it's a tradeoff for the leaner days but in the long run you aren't making 50 grand delivering on a set wage. Or wait staff. It's the idea that I can have a full time job and then go to work driving a couple hours a weekend and have a few hundred extra. If wait staff and delivery paid a normal wage then a whole lot less people would be interested in doing it part time. Or full time really

Eric Mitchell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to work in the service industry here in the US. If we work at a classy, reputable restaurant, we don't want a "livable wage." If you are good at what you do, are personable, and smile even when you don't feel like it, you can make $100+ an hour on Friday and Saturday. A "livable wage" would be a pay cut.

Thomas Gaster
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a chef in a pub in a 4 star hotel and I don't get tips. I make less than $15 an hour.

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Laura Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Glad you wrote this, got a dialogue going… and God rewards those who “pay it forward” from their hearts like you did that night! God always repays generosity from the heart, or as it is written, “God loves a cheerful giver”

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Although I don't believe your mythological god has anything to do with this, I do applaud your effort. This is the first comment that acknowledges what the security guard did for the woman. Thank you.

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To all those saying the US needs to get rid of the tip culture and pay servers and delivery drivers a decent wage—-we agree!!! HOWEVER, until that day comes, when you’re in the states and eat food, whether in the restaurant or delivered, then GIVE THE SERVER/DELIVERY DRIVER A DECENT F*****G TIP!!! They don’t give two shits about your opinion on the subject, or how it’s done in your country. They live here, now, and have to pay their rent and bills here, now. So they NEED that tip money to get by. So, until you read in the news that everyone over here is being paid a decent wage and tips aren’t necessary to survive, just shut your mouth, open your wallet, fork over anywhere between 18% and 22%—-preferably in cash—-and let them move on to the next customer before their food gets cold. Just save your lectures, comments, and bitching about tips for someone who isn’t busy at work.

Vladimíra Matejová
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree I would tip if I happen to be in the US because I know the staff dont earn that much even though we dont have a tipping culture here. but definitely not 20% as the food is already overpriced compared to my country. also the wages are higher. the servers earnings may be equal to mine. so dont be angry on foreigners maybe they tip what they can afford. its not their fault. go on strike to get higher salaries for your ppl working in the food segment. all in all everyone needs to eat

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Denise Lewis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i was in the hospital and ordered something through door dash. i gave the delivery person a 50% tip because i was grateful that this person brought me food and a drink. that i could get down with out wanting to puke. yes the hospital food was that bad and he brought it up to the 5th floor right to my door. i figured he was getting paid c**p and using his gas is another reason why i gave that tip. plus I'm not use to being able to get food delivered where i live there is none of that. this was around day nine of my stay there i was happy to have something that didn't taste like trash.

Brian G.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How much did you tip nursing staff,custodian that cleaned up said puke from previous meals?

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Alma Muminovic
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A 50$ tip would of been fair, especially since she set everything up. 168$ would of been nice but I wouldn’t have expected it for a delivery. I’ve always done well with tips working in the service industry. It would of been a pay cut if they took tips off the table and just did hourly wage. I know it’s not like that everywhere, you gotta find the right restaurant. But at the last spot I was working I made 32$+ an hr in total, but we also did have a 10.75$ hourly. Which made a big a*s difference. I will also add, the job was not easy, the hours were 10-12hr shifts sometimes 14. And you never stopped moving cause we were always packed. I averaged 8 miles a shift. And you had to take a in-debt crazy food knowledge test before they would let you serve. If you failed the first time you’d have to wait a week and take it and the questions changed. It was also really a lot of wine knowledge too and being able to talk about wine.

Thomas Maresh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't mind giving a 25% food service tip. What I do mind are the sob stories about how hard life is. Um, my life is ten times harder than yours; I don't want to hear your sad life story.

Mokayokok
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They were wrong for that, however, I don't think I would have given a $187 tip to the driver either - that's A LOT of money to throw away. However, I also would have went to pickup the pizza myself.

April Adkisson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh this is really getting out of hand- paying servers a half wage + tips is a racket to begin with- it’s not our job to pay the rest of your employees’ salaries…. But NOW on top of that we’re supposed to tip 18% for EVERY SERVICE just because these new cash register computers have the option pre programmed? NO- I will NOT pay you 18% on top of a regular hourly wage.

Ryan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate tipping culture just as much as everyone else in here, BUT, Jesus Christ, they had the delivery person help lug all the s**t up the elevator all the way to the room?! If you're going to stiff, at least carry it up yourself.

Louis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Think about this for a second. The driver literally just drove from one place to another and got $20 cash plus their normal income just for one drive. THEY ARE LUCKY TO GET THAT MUCH. Most people work full jobs and don't make $20 in an hour of work. This driver and the writer of this post are pathetic

Puchao S
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like she was just mad she didnt get to pocket $168 for doing essentially nothing 🤣 if she was planning on splitting that tip with the staff that ACTUALLY had to do the legwork of prepping ingredients, assembling, baking, and boxing $1000 worth of pizza (Based on the what the security guard said about her being tight on money, im gonna assume she wasnt) she would have only gotten maybe $30 anyway. Not trying to say her work isn't worth receiving a tip but it damn sure as hell shouldn't be nearly $200

Danny H
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, the overwhelming majority of people in the service industry LOVE "tip culture" and will readily tell you that they normally make way more money in tips than they would if paid an hourly, living wage. This story here is obviously not good and this poor woman should have been tipped much more, but this is the exception. Not the real. The fact that she expected a big tip let you know that normally she would get a big tip for such an order.

Dray Robinson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never seen a bigger thread of so many cheapskates. If you can't afford to tip get off your lazy butt and go pick it up yourself or don't done in. Disgusting.

Trixi Black
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How do you create a business for that very situation and then tell people not to utilize it unless you tip? You know how stupid that sounds. The business you wanted to start on your own accord. So you took the time to think of a business model, get financing, start a company, pay your workers like c**p because you can, and then tell the customers you wanted to use to make a living that we should not utilize the business unless we're going to tip the employees the way they should have been paid from the jump? All of you are serious with this??

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Liz Tonks
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We are NOT getting anywhere by saying that employers should pay wait staff more. Yeah, no duh? Ya think? You keep saying that like all of a sudden employers are going hear you and have these magical epiphanies and change their pay scales. Employers are just part of the problem, taking advantage of the labor LAWS. The main part of the problem is with each and every rotten, closed minded, bastard conservative in the legislative branch. Every flippin' one of those arrogant s.o.b.s who are in the pocket of big businesses, keep the minimum wage low and servers' wages lower. They vote AGAINST raising the Federal minimum wage. conservative states don't even bother. That's why we have to focus and essentially fire them all this November. Will it fix everything automatically? No. We must start SOMEWHERE. There can be no change if you keep employing the ones who proudly loathe change!! Get your butt out and vote or just shut up & accept being the lazy, complacent part of the problem.

Michael Thomas
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just because some orders a more expensive meal why does the tip have to be based off of the amount? So if I order a meal from a restaurant that costs $100 and my neighbor orders one from the McDonalds next door that costs $10, why should I have to tip them $20 and my neighbor tips a $1.They did the same amount of work and drive the same distance. I think that is insane. Tips should be based on the amount of work done and not how much you spent on your food.

Oliver Johnson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its kind of a general principle. You may think that taking a cup of soup to a table is the same as bringing a $125 Waygu filet mignon steak but what you dont get is the soup will very very rarely require additional work where as the steak can be overcooked, undercooked, or maybe the guest who ordered a $125 wagyu filet maybe wants to commit sacrilege and have 7 dipping sauces for a piece of meat that should never be touched by anything other than salt and pepper. All this chit takes precious time that you dont have on a busy shift. Good servers should abide tho and make sure the guest gets what they want if its reasnable and in a timely manner. Thats our job and I pride myself on having every guest I help have the best experience possible. Shoot I ran 4 blocks to Dunkin to buy decaf once because a group of regs asked for decaf but my boss was a big pos and didnt get any even tho he knew it was out. I told my cook checked on all guests then ran like Forrest.

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Grumpy Bear
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why should we tip? Get a second job. Get a better job. Things are expensive enough. A tip used to mean you went above and beyond. Now I'm expected to pre-tip in some cases regardless of service received. Wtf? Nobody's tipping me, why should I tip you?

Yaya Lantigua
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ah yeah, another driver and I delivered 45 pizzas to an event, set it up the way they wanted, went out of our way to freaking help them with everything else they asked and the tip was 2 dollar and some cents to split between us. I come from a country were tiping to do your job is not a thing but in this case our job was to drop the order off, not set it off like we were caterers. The total was like $700.

Kris Paul
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered Pizza for a small local pizza shop in Washington State. I never expected the tip to be a percentage of the order price. All I hoped for was a $3 to $5 tip per delivery. I did some massive orders to businesses and I was always happy with a $50 to $70 tip. On any large order the tip was split with everyone that cooked and helped with that order. The folks making 100 pizzas deserved the tip more than me!, All I did was make the delivery.

Rachel Branan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a waitress in the late 90s and early 2000s I made more in tips than I did working I a dental office as an assistant after my son was born in 2001. I'm always torn about this

Michał Osiecki
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Welcome to the pathological tipping culture of the states. Dude 20$ is a nice tip, but since its the US you expected % of the order, or else.

Brandan Snyder-Nicholoff
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work at pizza Hut, and only a fool would assume any more than 20$ to deliver that order. 938$ isn't as crazy as you might think. It's two trips to the car. 20$ is a good tip for that. The poor goddamn cook isn't seeing any of that and he did all the real work.

Wang Zhuang
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I abhor the tipping culture in the United States. Hate it, hate it, hate it. But it exists. And the corporate staff who ordered all that pizza is well aware of it. Tipping $20 on nearly $1,000 worth of pizza is ridiculous. They should have done better for that driver.

Jim Flim
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry but I have to disagree. I was a pizza delivery driver and there's no way in the world you can compare delivery drivers to wait staff. First of all delivery drivers make a higher wage than wait staff. Second of all wait staff has to see to the customer's happiness from beginning to end. Delivery driver has to make one stop. I'm not saying they don't deserve a tip they definitely do. And 10 to $20 for a large order is very reasonable. The most I ever got was $10 and that's only because the customer was drunk when I delivered the pizza. But a percentage is crazy. That should be reserved for wait staff that actually try to please the customer. A flat tip is warranted for pizza delivery drivers.

Bill Cowles
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And this is a good reason why Corparate douchbags like Pizza Hut should have a mandatory gratuity On an order that large. It just makes sense for everyone. But then again as long as they get there's that's all they really care about

anarkzie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Pizza Hut should have a mandatory gratuity On an order that large", No they should just pay their staff for doing their job.

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Cody Labarge
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She got f*****g twenty bucks, not like you're f*****g there all night waiting their table. My gosh, complaining about a 20 dollar tip. Lmao

Big Bee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with this. She literally made $20 to just ride around in their air conditioned car and then finally had to get out for a minute to walk some pizzas to a door. $20 was more than enough for what little she did

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Maggie Mykle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

50 years ago I was an 18yo mother & wife to an ill husband. Waitressing fed me & gave hours I needed. Into my section sat a group of 10 businessmen. Rather than stay in the office and use catering they came to us for full service during the lunch rush. I enjoyed my work and hustled extra fast that day to provide quality care to all my tables. We were a small cafe, two cooks, three waitresses, no busboys. The men left and as I cleaned the table I saw a single dollar by one plate and thought perhaps they all left something by their plates; they did not. 10 men in a lunch rush left a $1.00 tip which amounted to 10 cents per man. Even 50 years ago that was much of nothing. I learned that day of snobbery & the attitude of, "If you want more then do better" by those who don't struggle. Many eateries today quit feeding workers, a relied on meal for most in food service. Greedy companies are America's shameful weak backbone.

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As the needs and wants of American CEOs has become greater and greater, companies have to cut expenses and perks for their "backbone." After all, the price of fuel on the CEOs 50-foot yacht must be outrageous! 😆

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Josie Gardiner
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Personally I don't understand this tipping culture. Pay your workers properly they work hard enough. Tipping needs to end. It is just a way for businesses to rip off their customers and workers. Many of us from overseas countries do not even understand tipping. We think leaving $20 for the waiter is enough because they are getting paid by their bosses.

Beth Kostrab
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed. Raise the pay of workers and change people the appropriate amount for the item. Pay them well and respect them & they will work hard for you.

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Rize Rize
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nah we don't do that here, in Asia. You just deliver it and don't expect any tips. If you got one, then thank the god 🙏, if you doesn't get one, it's okay cuz that's standard here. The point of hospitality Is that don't expect anything and be humble on everything.

MysticMerman
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That's not how it works here, so it doesn't apply. Bill collectors don't understand that you weren't expecting anything and being humble. They just shut your phone service off.

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Rahul Pawa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can confirm, delivering to businesses sucks. I can't recall ever getting a good tip delivering to an office or business. Among the worst I still remember 10+ years later: (1)Delivered 2-3 dozen pizzas to the movie theater at the mall on Christmas day. Two trips up the elevator, navigating through crowds, walking all the way to their backroom. All for no tip from them (fortunately my manager knew I wasn't going to get tipped so she gave me a tip from the store.) (2) delivered a dozen pizzas to a church youth group after midnight (last order of the night), no tip. Delivering to the rich neighborhoods was feast or famine. The best tipper in our delivery area lived next door to a woman who never tipped.

Becca Hauck
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having delivered pizzas myself and also having worked in a restaurant for minimum wage, my tips were pretty much non-existent in the restaurant and I worked like a dog the entire time. Delivering pizzas, even large orders.... The work wasn't even comparable and I made minimum wage plus decent tips from regular folk.

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Isabella
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Loo, we do not care about shitty american customs. You all build your country this way and agree to that. When Icelanders did not liked their governm,ent - they did not work for 5 days straight. No one, not even one person worked. And government was changed. Oh, I know, but this is the creepy euroopean communism, LOL

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Americans will never fo that! We're all programmed to believe that everything will fall apart if we can't get a haircut and go to the mall! It's hopeless!

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Bob Wehadababyitsaboy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd like to open my response by questioning the comment that the delivery driver had to "give up her teaching job so she had a schedule that would allow her to take care of her children". Obviously, I don't have the particulars of the teaching job she had, but wouldnt a teaching job have the precise schedule needed to do exactly what she's claiming caused her to have to quit in the first place? Weekend off, summers off? Just like the children. Even if they were infants/toddlers, you'd be paying childcare or essentially putting that responsibility off on someone else if pro-bono. And if paying childcare, why wouldn't you just pay for the daycare during the teaching hours as you'd have to do so anyways working at Pizza Hut? I imagine the teaching job pays considerably better than Pizza Hut, and also would have insurance for her and the children in the package? I realize I'm off subject, but my brain picks up on things like this and it's hard to ignore.

Przemek Vonau
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in Poland and the food delivery guys just give you the order, turn around and head out. I'd have to chase them down the hall to tip. Nobody in food delivery expects it, at restaurants 5% is OK and 10% you're a god. When I'm in the US I'm always uncomfortable as I have no idea who to tip, how much and just hate the whole concept as it always seems that both me and the other person are unhappy. Just give me a fixed price that includes everything and I'll gladly pay it.

Harry Balls
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

so I can see that most of these ppl are Americans who have never traveled or lived in other countries where tipping is not the norm and let me tell you the customer service f8cking SUCKS. Period.. There is a tipping culture because it ensures you d8mn well offer excellent above and beyond customer service when out to eat or you don't get a tip and miss me with the sh8t boohoo its not a lot of money because tipping is so ingrained in US culture you can make EXCELLENT money as a waitress. My cousin waitressed at a pizza place in our very small town and would make BANK, she was putting money down on a condo at 19 so I don't really want to hear it and there is a huge difference between delivering snd waitressing. First off I would never tip a delivery person 18 frigging percent, she did set it up though and go above and beyond so in her case yeah sure maybe 15% or if in a high cost of living city then sure 18% but for a standard drive to the door, hand me my food no way 18%.

Id row
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've stopped ordering food because tipping expectations are so out of control. I worked in the service industry for a decade and understand tipping, but it's beyond entitled to expect a $168 tip for delivering pizzas. $50 would have been a generous tip. Even paying digitally now starts the tipping percentage at 20% with no option for a custom tip. I'll just make my own food or pick it up myself.

Phyllis Wright
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For those saying $168 was too much tip lets go over that...if the driver had taken 3 $330 orders in that same 60 to 90 minutes. Not had to wait and set up etc. and recieved 18% (~60) ×3 (~180). Would that be a ridiculous amount of tip? I think people are freaked out about 168$ but aren't even batting an eyelash at the nearly $1000 worth of pizza. Average pizza is between 10$ and 15$. So that was 65 to 90 items plus all the plates napkins and utensils. Tipping culture IS a scam but NOT by the servers/drivers. Anyone wonder what the deliver "fee" is for since it doesn't go to the employees? Yeah I worked for Domino's as a manager....that fee goes to defray LABOR costs to the point that they pay almost NOTHING for labor except managers. Btw managers are salary and often work 70 to 80 hours a week for a net hourly rate that is less than minimum wage. Does anyone wonder why a guy sitting at a desk gets what amounts to $60+ an hour WITH benefits and perks? Do they deserve more just because?

Emily Brazil
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered pizza in college. $20 is a really good tip... this whole b******t "driver gets 20 percent of the ticket" b******t is stupid. A bunch of entitled little bitches. Want to make $160 for a task? Learn a trade... you chose to deliver pizza. These kids need to get over themselves. 🙄

ScretSquirl
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I may get slammed for this, but those of us who have worked in a service industry, do know that paying a non-livable wage is BS... HOWEVER - until that changes, (which I do not see happening any year soon), tips do help. I haven't been a waiter or bartender in years, am retired from the military, and am now a government civilian - but I still feel for those who have to deal with the same "BS tip culture" I dealt with 20+ years ago. And when good service is given, I will always show my gratitude with a cash tip.

Glen Senecal
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the state of Virginia it’s required by law that employers make up the difference if you don’t make enough in tips to cover minimum wage.

Lacey Vaughn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Facts: If you have not earned minimum wage with your hourly pay + Tips at the end of the pay period your employer is required to make up the difference. You cannot earn less than the minimum wage. I was a waitress for many many years.

Reggie Mason
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So do servers in WA State still deserve 18%? They get paid about $15 an hour. Often prices are higher to compensate for the higher wages. Does that mean that you still pay more for the higher food costs?

Alice In_Hell
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is awful that these folks get paid so little and have to rely on tips. Its the same in Canada however places now have mandatory tips that start at 18%! The problem with employers paying their staff more, is it will cost more to eat out. So the customer is paying either way. However with the rising costs, less people will eat out causing businesses to go under. Governments need to do something to make it so things are more equal with pay and people can still afford to eat out, employees get proper wages, and businesses dont go under.

April Adkisson
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is such c**p- you do NOT *deserve* a tip! Especially when you’re already getting paid at least minimum wage. Servers earning half wage+ tips is bad enough (pay your employees don’t make us take up the slack!) but now we’re expected to tip 18% EVERY FEKKIN WHERE?!? No. Not buying into it.

Julia Bugden
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, I’m just curious because I myself have 1) worked in the service industry 2) live in Canada (meaning I made minimum wage at these jobs) and I still can’t fully grasp how anyone can justify 20$ on almost 1000$. To the people who are arguing that 20$ was enough, or that the additional 50$ Is way beyond too much, have any of you worked as a server in a restaurant or delivery driver? It is pain staking effort. You can almost compare it to the effort put in at home (cook,serve,clean) but then add the stress of having to cater to multiple people’s needs, and attitudes. If it happened here not only would that delivery driver be making minimum 13.70/Hr which is about 10.00 usd (it’ll be 15.00/Hr by 10/2023) plus gas fund reimbursement depending on the establishment of employment but, on a 1000 dollar bill the person would get at least 150.00$ tip, 100$ at the very very least.

Nitka Tsar
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Quick question: delivery drivers in the US use their own vehicles and pay for gas out of their own pocket?

Thomas Gaster
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes I was a delivery driver for a big pizza chain and paid for my own gas and vehicle maintenance, oil changes and everything, and my car insurance, and my insurance premiums skyrocketed when I told the insurance company I use my personal vehicle for work purposes daily. And I made like 70¢ less than minimum wage because i got tips. And I had to report my tips as income and pay taxes on it, though I'm sure I underestimated the amount when figuring taxes.

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Анна Сорокина
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

lol all the comments about "I learned something about rich people" Yah you dont get rich by throwing away your money, to impress strangers who deliver your pizza or comment on the internet lol 168 dollar tip, for pizza? get out of here. she is utterly insane to have expected anything close to that. $20 is a perfectly reasonable, if not great tip for doing most things -

Marnie
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People who are now "woke" about tipping are making the problem WORSE! Tipping is a part of sit-down restaurants and hair stylists. It hasn't been required for pretty much anything else. But now they want you to tip the gas station attendant, grocery store worker, flat 18% on pizza order (even though delivering 4x $100 order takes nearly twice as long as $400 order, so don't know why it would still be 18%). 18% is way too much. And because of that, the workers expect it and demand it, and some do insane things when they don't get what they think they deserve. It's insane.

steven
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

please explain why the tip is based on the value of the order ? Do you get better service ? Is it delivered on the back of a winged horse if it is more expensive ? If there was no tipping and they were paid a livable wage would the employer pay them more for delivering and expensive item. You dumb yanks have fallen for this ripoff

john jakes
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My experience is that it all balances out. A few people give me $20 tips, a few people give me nothing, and most people give me 4 or 5 dollars. Overall I make $55 hourly for a 7 hour shift and total tips will vary from $80 to $200. Plus I get 7% for a gas allowance. So overall I'm happy. I've had a couple $100 tips from people that just wanted to laugh at being generous. I'm not in a big city, so maybe it's different there. For me it's good money for easy work.

Baby chellz Idk
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lmao what are any one of you talking about the fact that he received a tip at all was more then fair tf do I have to pay you to bring almost $1000 order to me I paid for the service and was taxed on it all you had to do was bring it to me and now you complain about receiving let’s be real double pay for doing your job please cut this foolishness out

Kątem Oka
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not my responsibility to provide a living wage with my tip. 160$? Are you crazy? And who cares it's a "company card".

Veronica Devlin
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just to be clear, IA, as a single mom with sole custody of my two boys, would be entirely unable to pay my rent if it weren’t for tipping culture. The restaurant where I work pays five dollars an hour for servers and on top of that I probably average another $30 per hour. I have been in the hospitality industry for 14 years. It comprises the majority of work experiences listed on my résumé. If a business can’t offer me $35 an hour then I can’t live and put a roof over my kids heads. I know, I’m blessed to be working at a place where the owners and management are respectable people. The dishwasher will make no less than $15 an hour starting. All managers/salaried employees get a retirement plan and 50,000 a year as well as PTO and good health insurance. If there were no tipping then I’d be starting over with a new résumé and I’m almost 32. The vast majority of people that complain about tipping Are not tipped employees. If you don’t like tipping you’re free to eat at home.

Nick Nicolaus
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Expecting the same tip that a waiter would get is just stupid. $20 for a delivery is more than enough.

Doug Graham
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh, the times I've been stiffed out of tips, or undertipped, or offered excuses why the recipients wouldn't tip would exceed the character limits of this comment section.

Travis Oborne
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work in the restaurant industry. If you want to pay the staff a living wage that $20 pizza is now going to cost you $30. Labor costs are huge. The only way to pay a "living wage"is to increase prices. Most restaurants are barely surviving as it is.

Faith M
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Butt hurt socialists raging again. What a shock. I use to waitress. Made big bucks. LOVE tips in lieu of $10/hr. Screw that. I would average $50 an hour.

Klara Lorinczi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have encountered a similar thing with rich people. My job involves going to peoples’ homes. The rich folks who live in the large homes are NEVER hospitable, never offer me water on a hot day - by hot I mean in the 90’s or 100’s - but the average income, average home owners always offer a cold drink, sometimes even invite me to stay for lunch. I’m not allowed to stay for meals but a cold drink is ok. The rich have no concept of what is hospitality but average income people are so much more considerate. I know it’s different than tipping but the mindset is very similar.

Jessica Edelbrock
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a kid, we lived in a nice middle-class suburb and the adjacent town was multimillion dollar estates. It was the 90's, so we aren't talking McMansions with over-inflated values. This neighborhood is popular with pro athletes and minor celebs. My old man always got stiffed delivering to those houses. You can afford $7mil house but not a little class?

James G. Currie
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Drove for a pizza joint (international chain) in my teens... $2 a delivery, no salary. Some nights I could walk-out with less than gas money. Others, I could walk-out having earned 4-5x the hourly Minimum for the entire shift. Tips were generally just rounding up to the next $5, or I'd bring a $17 order, they'd hand me a $20 and tell me to keep it.

Craig Becker
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree that a $20 tip on a $938 pizza order is wrong. But I’ll bring up something I didn’t see mentioned: when you use a company credit card, you’re often not certain how easily or fairly the company will reimburse you. I can easily imagine some beancounter on the phone later that week: “So the pizza party was $938 and you gave them a $168 tip!? I’m sorry, but our rules allow for only 5% tip on food delivery.” “But that’s only $46!” “I’m sorry, but those are the rules.” I’m not trying to justify the stingy tip; just saying that there are other factors that can come into play when you use a company credit card. I know it is sometimes portrayed that way, but in reality, putting something on the company tab doesn’t mean “the sky’s the limit!”

Vanessa Lee Troy
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked in a ritzy steak and seafood place. LgvGroups of regulars who were big drinkers& loud showoffs. They told stupid jokes, long-winded boring stories & sang toasts. . Some of the old farts made misogynistic remarks, inappropriate cracks about how we or our bodies look. occasionally you had to dodge hands. Then they tip five bucks off a 200 plus tab! they hog tables for hours, performing all the while & you can’t turn it to make your tips. Everybody groaned when they came in, but kept smiling and laughing because they were regulars and made a lot of $ for the restaurant. They were so demanding the manager detailed one of us just so the staff could take care of the rest of the customers. It was infuriating to be that person, knowing your stellar svc won’t be rewarded. They believe, having colored my world with their presence, writing stupid s**t like “Don’t drink & drive!” in the tip line is cool. One night the mgr (not owner) so bad he slipped me $50 from his own pocket.

Serenasun321
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She should’ve gotten 15-20%! Why should it be any different from a sit down restaurant when she hauled it & set it up. The clients were asses! I always tip 20% to any delivery & servers. But others nope. I clean houses for a living & I usual only get a Xmas bonus. But not from everyone. Some give me gifts, but I try to tell them I’ll take cash or for them to donate to a charity as I don’t need more “stuff “. I don’t give a tip to my hairdresser, she makes way more than I do, so no! Not repairman or the like. They make a huge salary, way more than I do. And a fair wage? Well they are in some places & now we can barely go out to eat because it’s a trickle down theory. They pay more, so we pay more to eat. And it hasn’t helped employees because their rents & food went up too!

Sanchi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, so since several people are confused, here is the tipping culture’s logic (not saying I agree with it, not saying I don’t.) Say there are two deliverers. One is patient, kind, helps people carry the pizza, gets it set up, and helps. Another person is rude, impatient to get the money, etc (by the way, you legally can’t fire someone for being rude). Anyway, they both will get the same money. The exact same amount of money. So that’s the logic behind tipping. The helpful one gets more money than the other. Also, don’t get mad just because I said the logic for something you disagree with. I’m not saying I believe in tipping, but I’m not saying I don’t either.

Dianna Mccomb
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My problem with tips is say I'm at a restaurant and the check totals $100....20% tip is $20....I was there say 1hr if that...that server just made $20 an hour...and that's just my tip....they probably waited on 5 more tables during that hour...that's $100 an hour....I make $12 an hour....this does not make sense to me

Patricia Mincks
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

TIPS is an acronym that stands for "To Insure Proper Service". You should tip for a job well done not because it's expected. A tip is also called a "gratuity"; an Express of appreciation for service received. I don't appreciate bad service so why should I tip a bad server? As for the OP's suggestion that companies start adding a gratuity to the bill, again that encourages mediocrity & poor service. A restaurant where I live tried that for groups of 6 or more. At the time, there were 8 in my family so we would've been forced to tip, regardless of service quality, just based on the number of people at our table. As soon as the restaurant announced its intentions to engage in forced tipping, I notified the manager that as long as that policy remained in effect, we would not be eating there. It took about 3 years but the restaurant finally changed its policy.

Ruri Rotaru
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone ses to think ots just a simple thing to do. Just pay a wage and up your prices. A few years back a few restaurants tried that. All went out of business. People complained that their prices were to high. Stopped coming and the businesses went under. The employees out of work. Unless all the businesses do this at the same time or the government steps in it won't change. Oh and the whole tipping fiasco happened due to probation. When the restaurants and the like lost a s**t ton of revenue cause they couldn't sell their liquor. Which was pushed by church groups mom groups and mostly women at the time.

Lawrence Christopher
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tip jobs are for the most part are entry level jobs, therefore they are not meant to support a family on, maybe thats why you find it so hard, these jobs are meant to introduce a new worker to the employment field or in some cases supplement an income, if you chose to work in these fields than you should already know you will not be able to afford that housing, utilities, food, new car payment and oh yes insurance on an entry level position - next if all these people who are whining on here could afford a franchise than they would become what they claim to hate, let us realize that $20 pizza that they deliver and give a crappy tip on would cost $40 and the only people who would be ordering that pizza are in fact the rich that people whine about - the worker should say they will not deliver to that area as it cost you more than you re-coup, unite together (no union, they represent themselves now a day and not the worker) - if I was any of you I would just get a great job not hard find

Robert Mcknight
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work for Pizza Hut as a delivery driver. Where I work the company charges a $5,99 delivery fee to the customer for each delivery regardless of whether it is a $20 dollar order or a $1000+ order. Out of that delivery fee myself as a driver only sees $.40 per mile out of that. The company does not help pay for our car insurance and we assume all of the risk for our deliveries and get a small piece of that delivery fee pie. In the corporate world (which is what Pizza Hut is), the president or CEO makes the most money and we as delivery drivers make the least, and we are the ones on the front lines dealing with angry and frustrated customers on each sift that we work. If I want this to change, I have to look for a different line of work, not expect them to pay me better wages. We in the service industry know what we sign up for when we get hired. I treat every delivery like a game of slots at a casino because that is basically what it is.

D'Quincy Robinson
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe Service workers should go on strike for a agreed upon time frame to show what our luxurious world would look like without their services. I agree with tipping those that provide services that makes the lives of patrons pleasant and convenient. However, let's talk about those people and places expecting tips for counter services. If you're taking orders, filling orders, cashiering, supervising or managing... You should not expect a tip. You are paid under the federal and state guidelines. Let's tip those that work for tips fairly and when you're able show gratitude and praise for a job well done. We're all in this world together and we can do better!

John Kiernan
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The purpose of tips is to reward good service. If there's no tipping, why shd the worker care that much about your being satisfied?

Nacona Martinez
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I figured out letting one crappy tip affect my mood affected the test of my tips. I look at the out come of my day and figured out it matters what I made at the end, not one table/ guest. Restaraunts paying by the hour decreases the service staff provide, because they know they're getting paid the same either way. We have a chain of restaraunts in the U.S. that is now near extinct since they went to a higher hourly pay. Prices on the menu went up, service went to s**t. Say what you will, customers do not want to pay higher prices to accommodate staff getting paid more. They do not care about inflation and very few care about the servers home life out well being outside of their task at hand.

Nacona Martinez
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have been in the service industry 28 years. I just had this discussion with one of my 18yr old servers tonight. We were discussing both sides of this. It's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't discussion. It's really all in how you play the game. I'm in a top position now and nolonger live in tips, but for 20+ years I did. Service industry is the only place I know that someone with no college degree, or has a college degree and still makes more in this field than their degree, high school drop outs, GED, felon can make the kind of money I see. Where can you work with an ankle monitor and still clear $500 a night? Servers, drivers, etc. that provide impeccable service make a damn good living that they would not make worth a flat rate hourly pay. Finding great servers that do not feel entitled is definitely harder to found now a days. They provide mediocre service, knowing their pay depends on it, and still expect a big tip.

Erik Eriksen
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

doncha just LUVVVVV the little addendum at the top saying " 25% is the NEW 20%" years ago I asked a twit at the coffee shop why the increase from 15% to 20%, its anser was, well prices have gone up, so we need more...

Matt Pellerin
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to do deliveries a lot when I was younger and you can easily do 3 an hour so a 20$ tip is pretty damn good imo. Even if you're only making 10+ an hour from the company now with that 1 tip you made 30$ that hour plus your 2 other deliveries. Even if those were both only 5$ each do we really think a delivery driver should be making 40 f*****g dollars an hour when most people barely make 20? Other people cook the food and you just drive it somewhere. It's crazy easy. I would make anywhere from 100-450 a night in a 4-8 hour shift. So get real people.

Jennifer Sturgeon
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get your point, but wouldn't you get excited if you had even more money from bigger deliveries... If each person that was eating that $998 order, pitched in a dollar, it would've been more. She didn't have to help the contact person carry anything up, her job is to deliver to the location, not set it up nice... That was time she spent helping when she could've just went on to her next stop. I guarantee if others in the office would've known, they wouldn't let that happen... I worked in a casino and many didn't even know to tip, but I still only made 5.25 an hour and banked from tips.... At the same time, on Christmas or holidays, we'd get really good night's because people were generous and knew we were working on a holiday... Same with this situation... Maybe she shouldn't expect it but that tip was pathetic for that much food....

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Randy Mc
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Things must be changing a lot. I used to know a lot of people who worked in the service industry when I was younger. The majority of them made more money than the friends I had working "regular" jobs. Even though a few people here or there didn't tip well (or at all) overall, they did very well. This story and the comments are a reminder that most people forget these people get many tips per hour, per day. I'd bet most are making 30 to 50 dollars an hour or more, but still complain about that one lousy tip.

Gene Grey
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get a real job that doesn't cause you to rely on tips then. You're literally not entitled to any sort of tip just because you work delivery or other areas of food service, that's why they make it an option to do so. And the size of your order doesn't HAVE to affect the tip either, that's why it's optional and generosity based.

Garrett Jeffords
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I believe in the good ol fashioned earn your tip method. This lady sounds like she didn what she needed to have earned the higher end of a tip of I were the one making those choices. Bottom line, in my opinion, should not be expected and you should def be going into any jobs fully knowing that tips aren't a guarantee and plan accordingly. Plain and simple. If you do decide to partake in any of these professions, then be fully prepared to perform above and beyond any expectations to get those tips. It's called a tip for a reason. Once you start getting into the 'tips should be automatically included' debates, then you start seeing the decline of the workers. Guarantee you the work ethic and will to want to be better will be in decline once you start automatically giving people money they don't have to earn.

Grid Takno
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Businesses need to pay their employees better. But also nobody talks about how the company that has tipped based employees is legally required to make up the pay difference if the employee doesn't make minimum wage between tips and tip based hourly wage. People still out here attacking employees and customers about tip gratuity. Attack the business or remind the staff they are legally protected just report your tips as proof, but that's the problem they don't want to claim all their tips at the end of the shift and businesses know that so ots an endless cycle

Tom Gardner
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

people in the restaurant business receive tips for 2 reasons. subsidize low wages and To Insurane Prompt Service. they also get minimum wage which is different in different state, as are taxes. in the 70's california had from $5to $8hr. today it is over $10. Waitresses make much more than bartenders in tips and has less responsibility. they take the order make the drinks take the money and wash the glasses, and stock the bar. rather than the server working the 4 hr. lunch or dinner shift, they typically work 8 hr shifts with no breaks and no meals. if tipping were abolished, prices would increase and the quality of service would decline.

Nicole Krenzler
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To 'insure' means to compensate against loss (car insurance compensates you for the cost of fixing your car if you're involved in a collision) To 'ensure' means to make sure something gets done. Checking your hotel room to ensure you haven't forgotten anything. So that would make the acronym TEPS, not Tips.

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Mose1
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the company paid with a card, the tip was in the card payment. I pay and tip using cards just like everyone else, I always tell this to the delivery person, so they know I am not stiffing them. Plus, an order that large, especially for a company is going to have gratuity added anyway. So whoever gave her the $20 tip, it was a bonus for her job well done and hard work. She knew what she was doing, I feel bad for the security guard who gave her money, and I hope nobody opened a gofundme/moneyfornothing account for her. She wasn't a doordash driver, using her private car nor paying for gas. It was a pizza hut delivery van.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like this person!!! I'm sure she does get go fund her hustling a*s account! Compensate the Security Guard she hustled with sob story when she could have been doing something job related to make the elevator trip easier, or was she drowning out her mark (Security) when he let her know was calling someone down from upstairs

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Eric Christopher
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a manager for a pizza store. If anyone deserves a tip on that order it's the employees at the store making the order. The delivery drivers would do dishes but never made any food and got to sit the rest of their shift. Just because she drove the order there doesn't constitute her receiving such a big tip.

Manueven
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This whole article was the most dumbest thing I’ve read. Get over it. Get skills worth a bigger payday.

Akindeji Hill
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John Hackley
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked for a Fortune 50 corporation for decades. Most of our 80k employees had to travel at least occasionally and everyone had their own opinion as to how frugally or lavishly we should live while traveling on company business. Should we stay at a dump of a motel to save corporate funds? Or maybe the Ritz-Carlton this time because we've been working hard and are gonna get reimbursed by our employer? The company policy was spot on:. "Spend company money the same way you would spend your own money. If you normally eat steak and lobster every night and stay at 5-diamond hotels while traveling for personal reasons, go ahead and do that while traveling on company business." The security guard should be FIRED -- simply for saying the tip should have been much larger since it was corporate money. Yes, FIRED.

mike lee
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't expect s**t from anyone but yourself. Instead of using all that energy crying about your $20 tip and writing a story about how about finally enrolling in some college classes or finishing that certification so you can get a job not involving pizza??

Mega Tron
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm torn on this one, having worked as a server and a pizza delivery guy. On the one hand, as a pizza delivery guy, I worked WAY harder, having to make the pizza, box it, and then drive it and deliver it... but I got paid regular minimum wage, and the company gave minimum trip pay (cause if you spent all your gas and never got a tip, you wouldn't be able to continue). I would normally get closer to 10% as a tip, which was great. As a server, while I did less, I was still working my a** off, but we weren't permitted to share tips with anyone since all other staff were paid well and couldn't report tips in the system, so that made it worth it as well. Maybe it was just the company I worked at. Sounds like servers need a union if they really want a change...

Susan Ramak
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So when was younger i worked for a grocery store as a bagger. We had a celebrity come in and I took his order out as I was wishing him a good one he hands me $150 dollars I told him Thank you but we're not allowed tips he walked back in the store and talked to my boss the money showed up on my next paycheck. At the time I was in college and the guy told my boss that he was impressed with my work and how friendly and polite I was. When I started working minimum wage was $3.85 and at the time I was getting $5.25 so I always pay it forward and tip as much as I can afford usually like $10 dollars or if I have extra what I can.

Loki’s Lil Butter Knife
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe if the United States actually paid their restaurant workers an actual living wage we wouldn’t have to argue about this.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe. But, until that happens, please don't be part of the crowd that thinks the solution is to withhold a tip. Thank you.

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Hadrien T
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

French here, regardless the quality of service or amount of order, is she really expecting a 160$ « tip » for a single delivery??? It’s like 10hours of work fully paid, I make less in a whole day of work, how could it be normal? 20$ seems really nice for a job you’re already paid for

Elaine Lam
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yo! You guys are crazy for expecting more tips just because the total cost was more. Your job is still to deliver that damn pizza being 1 or 100 of them! This is the requirements and commitments you agreed to when you accepted this job! I'm so sick of these employees constantly making the customer out to be the bad person in all this! The problem is your employer and if you don't want to put the necessary effort and band together to have this tipping culture changed in the future, don't look for an easy solution and attack customers! I am not going to give 168$ because you had more boxes to carry or helped set it up! This is still part of your job description and you can't play the victim with the customer just because he didn't want to tip more! This is his decision, even if it's company money! You guys are freaking attacking the wrong people here!

Chris Naslund
Community Member
6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Imagine a corporate worker making 30-40 dollars an hour being expected to pay the delivery driver 168 dollars for an hour of work. Also a corporate card isn't free permission to spend the companies money, The problem isn't the tip it's the employer paying the driver a wage that makes them sweat the tips.

Brandi Ramirez
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She could have left it in the lobby and made them come down and get it...damn she went above and beyond

Mary Truxton
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You shouldn't have to tip anything. I never do when I order online. When I'm in a restaurant like Red Lobster or Applebee's, sure I tip around 15 percent. But for delivery drivers, never. Their jobs should pay them enough.

Nova Coast
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just don't go anywhere that requires tipping anymore. It's really that easy and I save money anyway by not wasting it on dining out.

Brenda Bunnell
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most working people aren't making a decent living wage neither. Why aren't companies in the food and delivery industries paying decent salaries to their deliveriy people? That reeks.

John Schizas
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait Shaolin John “worked as a waiter for a few years before entering the workforce”. Are you implying that waiters don’t work for a living or their so low on your radar you don’t consider them workers? Maybe the job is so easy they should pay to do it? Come on! Waiters/Waitresses are some of the hardest working people out there, and as you do blatantly point out, some of the most unappreciated workers. Quit dismissing them like this.

Nickolay Iltchev
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a European I was always annoyed by the expectations of delivery staff, waiters cab drivers to be heavily tipped....well there's a fixed price for all services or goods delivered.....Am I supposed to budget 20 % over my travel budget because your employers decided to transfer your monthly payment on the clients?! Definitely not! You tip when you feel like it, this is not an income tax....

Adrian Scarlett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Saw a woman tip the bus driver of the free service going between an airport terminal and car rentals once, think it was in Chicago. I thought that was ridiculous.

Kathy Beaty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I try to tip decently but I think the expectation of tips in the past few years is getting crazy. I’ve worked service and retail in my life. NEVER got any tips. Ever. I bent over backwards too! Why is it only food servers and food delivery that expect this? Yes minimum wage is crappy. That’s life. Lots of other people only get minimum and no tips. Should it change? Yes. But it probably won’t. I don’t order delivered food for this very reason. Someone will be pissed they didn’t get a 50% tip and spit on my food. Sorry, but some of the younger people out there have very unrealistic ideas about wages, how much they should do at a job and how much time they should be able to spend on their phones while working. Just saw an example yesterday. A hostess on her phone instead of taking care of customers. Yep. It’s real. Now you can blast me. IDC

Dirt is Dast.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can who are the Trumptards in these comments. And probably making minimum wage themselves.

Larry Reinert
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Isn't the tip for the service? What if it had been a jewelry delivery for a $10,000 watch; should the delivery driver gat a $2000 tip?

Rowboat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you go above and beyond to lug hundreds of pounds worth of pizza across to our site, into our meeting room, AND set it up nicely, you've earned the tip. Also, it's not my money and I can guarantee that I'm not being paid enough to care.

Yo Man
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An old girlfriend's 28 year old son delivered pizzas, he was only paid $1.00 for every pizza he delivered. He wore the brakes out on his car so I volunteered to show and teach him how to install new brakes on his car. We bought the brakes I told him to jack up the car, he didn't even know how to jack up his car. My relationship didn't last too long with him around.

Christy Charbeneau
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being a bartender/waitress most of my life I understand the importance of tipping but if I get bad service I show it with my tip I also show gratitude for good service if people in the waiting business are constantly being bad at it and getting paid they're going to do half-a*s jobs

ferocious freshwater fish
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They should tip because pizza was loaded and delivered? That's the job, right? Or does the only part the company pays start and end with the car rides?

Warden
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if it was some foreign manager who came over to the States for a 4 day visit, totally unaware of the local tiping culture? In Europe we tip when eating in restaurants, but not for food deliveries..in Europe both restaurant workers and delivery workers already make a liveable wage without tips

Warden
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if it was a foreign manager, coming over to the States for a 4 day visit, totally unaware of the local tiping culture, rule of thumb in Europe : you tip in restaurants, but not for deliveries

Thomas Gaster
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as a pizza delivery driver for Papa John's like 11 years ago and made slightly less than minimum wage. I think at the time it was $7.25 and I made $6.55. So more than a server at a restaurant but still not a living wage. I paid for my own gas and vehicle maintenance and the extra money my insurance company charged me for using my vehicle for work so I was very much dependent on tips, though people usually tipped well so I made pretty good money. Although I agree with all the people saying the wealthier they are, the worse they tip. I remember taking an order to one lady, and I had to walk all around this whole assisted living building to get to her, it was at least a couple minutes of walking. And when I brought her her food I forget the total but let's say it was $16.70. She gives me a $20 bill, and I give her $3 back, the store provides you with a bag with a few bucks in change but I didn't have it with me because quite frankly I'd literally never used it before, even the

Thomas Gaster
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stingiest customers would round up to the nearest dollar. She gave me a look of utter disgust and said "where is the rest of my change?" I gave her another dollar and left, because the few minutes it would take me to walk back to my car, get the change bag, and come back was not worth the 70 cents and I couldn't keep my next delivery waiting any longer than I already had. I think Pizza Hut drivers use their own vehicles too, that guy saying oh it was a Pizza Hut delivery van is nuts. I literally just put a magnetic Papa John's sign on my roof while I was working. Currently I'm a cook in a restaurant in a 4-star hotel and I make enough to get by if I work 50 hours a week. No, I do not get a portion of the tips, not even the gratuity that's automatically charged to large groups, which I think is like 22%. My girlfriend got a job at Subway recently, and was shocked to find out that Subway now automatically adds a gratuity of 15-25% to the bill whenever you pay with a credit card, I think

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Kristi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the delivery person that got screwed and just said thank you... you are a better human than me lol.. I do hope you at least flagged this place to warn other delivery personnel.. and to the losers who slam "tip culture" get off your lazy a*s and make your own damn food... if you can afford expensive meals out you can afford to tip accordingly... if not, then stop eating out.. I am guessing these A-holes who slam tipping have never worked in that climate and are clueless and never worked in the food service industry or have been blessed with rich parents and have mommy and or daddy to help them out...

Heta Luna
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my family and I went to a restaurant and ate real nice we tipped 2€. That's barely 3% of what the full meal cost. Why is that? Because the people don't f*****g need a 12€ tip to survive

CHRISTY SMITH
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mom picked out the most ridiculous name she could come up with to use for this story - dear god can you imagine someone actually having that name.

P.L. Packer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The state I live in pays more than most. In July of 2023 the min wage will go to $16.00 an hour up from $14.75. This is more than I make on SS and retirement combined. I tip only relative to the service I receive. I do tip waitstaff in restaurants and I tip housekeeping in hotels/motels. The teachers in my state are paid a living wage. Beginning teacher annual salary with bachelor's degree, $36,097 - $51,070, beginning teacher annual salary with a master's degree, $40,136 - $63,492. They work 9 months, most get PERS & medical insurance. Why would the driver in this story leave a secure job then gripe about "struggling"? My kids learned there were things we had to live without, things they had to choose between and activities they had to forego. But I kept my secure job with benefits. And my children didn't suffer, they learned how to budget and have a great work ethic.

Bill Palmer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem is even places that try to get RID OF TIPPING (Like Supercuts , Great cuts type place tried) people still tipped though there was a giant sign saying NO TIPPING fixed price! I rarely tipped takeout until the pandemic shut down wait staff . Now everyone wants 15-25 to hand me a bag. Sorry that is 5pct . So far McDonald's seems tip free...how long? I'm amazed how many people cry poor but pay 30-50pct premium for delivery... And delivery apps cost the restaurant 30 pct profit, so you're hurting them. Time to move to Italy

Nick M
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People who complain about tipping culture don't understand that, yes, it sucks, but it's the ONLY WAY drivers make money. I just got my yearly statement today. I made $15k working fulltime as a driver. Literally 45% of that is tips. When you don't tip a driver, you're not sticking it to the man or the company, you're literally screwing the little guy. But the bigger problem don't realize is that restaurants aren't some money printing machine. It costs money to operate, some of them are then paying north of 30% just to exist in the network. So how do they account for tips? Well, Uber or Foodora or Door Dash aren't going to pony up. So it's on the restaurants. Wanna know what happens then? Menu prices go up. So they'll go up, and instead of paying a tip, you're going to be paying even more money, and the driver is still not going to get paid. People who say tipping culture is b******t have never had to rely on tips for a living. Simple as.

Trebor Erebut
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would prefer to pay the full price upfront for the full service including delivery and not worry about tipping. If the service is bad, no repeat business.

Matthew Cummins
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping culture will never go away because the amount of income servers and bartenders make would be impossible to match unless prices are multiplied to an insane degree. Delivery drivers are a different breed as well because they don’t tip anyone out.

Sarah Ries
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always paid delivery drivers more than 20%. If I'm getting delivery it's because I'm too lazy to go out, so I appreciate it that much more. If you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't be eating out!

Crystal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to add that I worked in resort/upscale hotel bars for over 8 years. I now at night have started doing deliveries from stores like Target or Walgreens etc. I have seen the best of the best tippers and the lowest of the low. There is no way to determine by wealth what kind of tipper they will be. What I HAVE learned to watch for more are “verbal” tippers. The more someone gushes over you or thanks you or praises you, usually means a fairly small tip. Also if anything is even slightly wrong, and they jump on that, giving them the excuse to not tip. And other times their just simply is no answer, it’s just what they “believe” to be true. That we get paid plenty enough hourly, we don’t need the extra tip. Or maybe they don’t realize a percentage of our tip (whether we’re tipped or not!), gets paid to other employees. Or maybe they don’t understand the IRS sees us as a tipped employee and therefore taxes us on tips, wether we make them or not.. maybe if they realized all that..

BlueEyesWhiteDragon
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder how much Amazon drivers would make if they were supposed to be tipped 15-20% of the cost of the goods they deliver. Anyway. I think now that everything is electronic, totals shouldn't be visible to servers and delivery personel, only tip amount. Most of these stories feature people angry in relation to the total cost of the bill, not the effort or time. Expectations are everything.

Kimi Robinson
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey....wouldn't it make sense to automatically add the gratuity of at least 18 percent...(I say at least 20 percent in California) to ALL LARGE ORDERS????!!!!?????

Kevin Cappo
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if it took an hour to deliver and set up twenty dollars an hour is not bad pay. $160 an hour is pretty steep. at a restaurant i tip based on time spent more than cost percent. why should a $30 meal get twice the tip as a $15 meal at the same table?

Venetia The Poet
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a friend who says that customers are part of the problem as long as we Americans keep tipping. These restaurants rely on customers tips and as long as we keep tipping service workers will never earn a living wage. It made me think about why we keep tipping.

Carol Dahlin
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping is a relic of slavery. After the Civil War, Southerners did everything possible to keep black people in servitude. They legislated the idea of "tipping" exactly in order to avoid paying a living wage to former slaves. So much of the unfairness in our country is a legacy of slavery. Let's start righting the wrongs of our past. Let's establish a basic living wage for everyone in the country.

William Christopher
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having made those huge orders before, I've been salty to see a delivery driver get a 100 dollar tip that I saw nothing of despite being the one to take and make the order by myself. Delivery drivers get it easy.

Peeka_Mimi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always tip 17% minimum even if it's c**p service. I've only rescinded a tip twice in my life and that was because they were flat out rude or incompetent. Like someone got my Japanese food the other week. She even took a picture of the order in front of some apartment. I own a house. She got her tip rescinded and my order was refunded.

kayeff
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe they were just bad at math and they thought they were tipping 20% when it was really 2%?

kayeff
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe they're just really bad at math and they thought they were tipping 20% when it was really only 2%?

Naomie Moore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was in the hospitality industry when I was young. As many have said before, the "comfortable" clients tipped very little if at all. The average person tipped well or over tipped because they have done it themselves and know what it's like. I have always over tipped and even gone so far as to give money to another server because I know they got stiffed by someone. In my state they tax tips, whether you actually get tipped "x" amount or not. So technically one can be in the hole. It's just insane.

Matthew Raiche
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hold on, here, $168? Even $80 to $100 is ridiculous. How long do you suppose it took the driver to make this delivery? Let's say it took her an hour, which I'm sure it didn't. An $80 tip would be $80 an hour for a job whose only required skills are driving and carrying food. That's a lot more than most skilled workers and university graduates make. Why do delivery drivers and wait staff seem to think that they deserve to make so much money for a job that requires no special skills? I know they work hard. So do entry-level construction workers and supermarket deli workers, but they don't get paid much. What makes servers think that they are so special that they deserve to make more than other unskilled workers and even a lot of skilled workers?

Deconus Kad'ral
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

$20 is a pretty good tip for delivering pizza. I mean, this is bottom of the barrel, unchallenging, anyone can do it, work. But she expects $160 for walking some boxes to a door? Thats more than most people make in a day, doing ACTUAL WORK.

Deirdre E Siegel
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In New Zealand the minimum wage is $22.70 an hour and living wage of $23.65 an hour, as such the majority of our population do not tip :-)

Mike Beck
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really don't get the connection here. I don't, and never have, tipped based on an employee's pay. Why so many people think I should stop tipping if people get paid more is unreal. I tip *heavy* because I've been there and will continue to do so even if people get paid a so-called livable wage. Also, d@mn the number of people who turned an article on rich people being cheap into a fight for their "right" to murder children for no more reason than convenience.

Joseph Marquardt
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WE as tippers are enablers! The workers aren't going to do anything in regards to the employer as long as we can be conned into leaving inflated tips. I have read that the new norm is 18% to 20%. Why? Just as the food price has gone up, the tip went up accordingly. Percentage points need not be added to keep up. Just pointing out how we are being manipulated.

Tamilam
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am all for getting rid of tip culture, but to only give this driver a $20 tip after all the work she did is crazy. At least have some forethought in bringing a cart with you down the elevator knowing how much you ordered. If you weren't going to give her more than $20 you should have said "I'll take it from here" while in the lobby instead of making her lug it up the elevator and setting it up for you. It's not her job to set up the delivery, only to deliver it.

Jeffrey Gregory
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a partial quadraplegic due to spinal injury. Worked as a delivery driver for several pizza places. Often my deliveries to the best neighborhoods would be the worst tippers and the people that really couldn't afford to tip, gave me their last penny. Of course once in awhile I'd take an order and a struggling family was short on the bill so I'd dig into my tips to cover it.

Dawn Harris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What most people don't understand is, if you pay a "living wage" to servers and delivery drivers, you probably couldn't afford to eat out or get delivery

Rasheeda Pennybaker
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

See I'm sorry but I can't even imagine how she felt. My hates me signing for her deliveries because I always write in a tip. She tells me don't give them no tip they already got a $2 dollar delivery fee from me. I tell her well next time get in your car and drive and get your own food. You won't have to worry about delivering fee or tip. If i have the money myself I will just tip them out my pockets. I order from only 3 pizza places and trust me when my number shows up they get real excited. They know i always tip their drivers nicely. My food is always on time and always hot and delicious.

Vladimir Leninger
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok she was doing her job, got like 30$ for half hour work. And she did a lousy job - entertained security guy while food was getting cold. The customer had to come down and help carring her delivery. First time I hear that tip has to be percentage if order is big. What do you do when you buy a car? Give a 2000$ tip on top of car price? What if she delivered a wedding ring she should get 10 000$. Also you can put as big amout of tip on company card as you like? Isn't it tax evasion? Please help poor European (who serviced many Americans without a tip, and once when mentioning that to couple from Las Vegas got reported to company and terrible review) understand.

JP Purves
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Going to say this for those in the back of the room. It is practically slavery to pay a server $2 an hour and expect them to make their living on tips. Withholding a tip because you want the boss/owner to pay the server/delivery person a barely living wage isn't going to change anything. State governments should make at least the minimum wage mandatory for all employees.

talliloo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i worked at a military club/dining facility. i would work the dining room until it closed & then go into the club area and work there. our wages at the time was about $4.25/hr plus tips. then a rule came down that we were to report our tips & be taxed on them. which in reality is actually double dipping each dollar as that dollar was taxed when it was paid to patron, taxed when they paid for their meal/drink, then taxed again when we claimed. additionally, the bosses figured out that we should be making a minimum of $10.00 for every hour we worked. normally, we made 2 to 3 times, sometimes more each night. we started complying but then when we saw how it affected our pay we collectively figured out how much the bosses expected us to report and stuck to that on a regular basis. the bosses figured out we were doing this but since we kept our tips in our aprons and not in a tip container they couldn't physically examine us.

Steven McNeill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, let's break this down somewhat... Pizza Inn drivers in Dallas Texas earn $16.06 an hour, on average. (Google it.) Let's say these Pizzas onlycost $10 each.., The order would've been for 80 of them cause.. taxes.. you know? A person can fairly easily carry 10 pizzas at a time, so 8 trips to get them all there ... except in this case the contact person and security helped load everything on the elevator for one trip. Take them inside. Unpack them. This whole thing takes how long again?? Not very, as there's another large order waiting for the driver after this one!! So $20 tip for ~30 minutes work, for a job with minimal physical requirements and an existing pay rate over twice the minimum wage!! And yet, some folks think $50 or $100 or... what was it? $168? This driver *deserves* that type of compensation?? $5.00 A MINUTE for a tip?!! You guys are all crazy!

Susan Petrizzo
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the person who asked about furniture and appliance delivery drivers getting tipped: they do make a better salary, but they also get tipped (not by everyone, but frequently). Source: my husband, who delivered appliances for 40 years.

Bryan Kyle
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let's juat not tip and force employers to make up the difference. They are obligated by law to make up the difference.

Corwin 02
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am sorry , your job is to deliver an item , if you would get paid a decent wage you would receive 15 bucks an hour , I would probably give you $20 for your service but that is about it. Culture what it is in the US the driver probably gets gas money plus a dollar or something like that so I'd probably give you $30 but I sure as hell am not going to give you 18% of the price of the order.

John Richard Albers Grant Esquire
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tip culture blows. 15 percent used to be the norm. Now more is expected, on top of the increased prices for the food itself. So, I pay $50 instead of $40 for the meal compared to just a few years ago, and then have to provide 20 percent to pay the waiting staff because the prices of food that have been ostensibly jacked up because of "inflation," which we all know is systemic greed, aren't enough for the restaurant to actually pay their frigging employees. I'll happily pay $55 for the meal if the extra $15 is going to pay the workers. Instead, the best I can do to not shaft people while living on a shoestring budget is to tip in cash. It's not something servers need to declare on their tax returns, and they don't have to share it with the rest of the restaurant (and that includes the damned management who are already making more than anyone else there.) Tip culture needs to die. Capitalism needs to die. And that means regulating prices, profit margins, and employee wages.

Unpopular opinions
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This person thinks they deserve over $100 for walking a few boxes upstairs?! What a pathetic piece of s**t.

Carol Emory
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also keep in mind that some of the Corporate Cards have spending limits. I know for our company, when we are at company conferences, we are limited to $60 a day including tips. Most of us that go to restaurants tip in cash out of our own pocket. But still. A 10% tip in the above case means she would have gotten nearly $100.00.

Paige Purcell
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I go to the same restaurant every Sunday due to finding a FABULOUS server that really takes care of us. Since they have to share the tip with everyone else, we put that on the tab then give at least 20 dollars to the server, more on holidays

ReginaC
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked for LaZBoy in Chicago. Our store used to host the quarterly meetings for all stores in Illinois, Wisconsin and Indiana. It was an all day event with breakfast and lunch brought in by local restaurants ( ususally Potbelly) . The district manager had the corporate card to pay for this and put the equivalent of a 2 percent tip on the card!!! This is La Z Boy, one of the largest earning corporations in the USA and they basically paid nothing for the poor people who lugged all this heavy food and set it up on 2 tables and gave then effectively NOTHING for the effort. Once I was lucky enough to be able to pay and write the tip, I gave 20% and when the DM ssw it I told him it should have been more and just gsve him s**t for what he had done before. No shame for these wealthy corporations way to go keeping the little people down and poor!

Unpopular opinions
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Potbelly restaurants are valued between $200 & $400 million, they should pay their own employees, it’s irrelevant how much money the customer has. & I bet you really felt like someone special giving away someone else’s money… pathetic.

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Rick Drew
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pizza delivery person: $2 an hour, plus tips. Fridge delivery person: Usually paid by delivery and comes out to around $35 an our. Plus they often get tips.

Rocco MZ
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In our home if you deliver something to our house you will get a tip. Furniture, food, anything. We give our USPS, UPS and Fed X drivers gift cards art Christmas. We understand that people who work in any kind of delivery service don't make much money. UPS, Fed X and USPS might make a good wage, but they're still out there in the elements delivering stuff to us. I can't fix their pay scale, but I can show them they are appreciated. We tipped the two guys who delivered our couch and they were blown away and brought it all the way in the house, unwrapped it and set it up for us. We sent them on their way with some cold bottles of water. All this because we tipped them each 20 bucks.

Jamie Edwards
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That IS NOT TRUE that delivery drivers get paid regular minimum wage. They get paid tipped employee wages AND they have to pay for their car insurance and gas. But not once, ever, was I tipped for a company lunch properly. And I did it for many many years.

Nathan Fritts
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered pizza for Domino's long ago, in college, and the best tippers were regular, middle-class working people. The poor were just happy to be able to afford a pizza and often paid with handsful of change. College students like myself were notoriously cheap and you might get the difference between the cost and the next dollar up. I always chalked that up to plain old ignorance. But the wealthiest customers squeaked they were so tight. If scarcity is all you ever practice, scarcity is all you'll ever feel. Sad.

Vanessa Murphy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Canada, we always tip minimum 15% to wait staff, delivery drivers and other service workers. Even the fast food places that are allowed to take tips, we tip. Maybe not 15% or more, but we still put something in the tip cup. It’s just how it is and I’ve never encountered anyone complaining about having to tip or not tipping. I delivered pizza for 2 years and made a stupid amount of money. Especially when the weather was bad and snowing in the winter. My old boss would refuse to take orders from customers that treated us poorly. There weren’t many and it was rare but I had a great experience working in the service industry. A lot of people don’t realize that the drivers and servers have to tip out the kitchen staff too every 2 weeks.

Anouk T
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Broken USA system strikes again. People wrk hard and literally have to beg for money… wtf?!

Nicholas McCoy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is kind of amusing to me. I'm the sort of person that goes in to a restaurant, gets a $10 meal, and leaves a $20 to pay for it plus the tip. Why corporations and rich people are stingy boggles my mind. I'm always so grateful to get a meal I didn't have to make myself. Granted, going out to eat is a treat for me, so I want the person serving me to feel good too.

Warren Zoell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm curious. Do these delivery drivers ever share their tips with the people who actually make the pizzas?

Jacquie Wilson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Australia workers get paid wages and there is strong union support for any problems.....my friends pay bills by card and to my embarrassment don't tip. They say that the workers are doing a job and they simply don't tip. I tip whenever I am in a food establishment, exception being when one server was rude..

Brent Kaufman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not only the employers fault. It's also the legislature's fault for creating a law that allows businesses to pay less than minimum wage if the employees get tips. Corrupt politics is at the bottom of more than most people consider.

Stargazer66
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My partner and I always tip 20% on delivery. Food service is a crappy job with lousy pay. The federal minimum wage is $7.25 so restaurants are not required to pay more than that unless the state law has a higher minimum wage. The loophole for lower minimum wage for food service workers needs to be eliminated.

M Whee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems like this started when tips became expected the same way a standing ovation means nothing anymore.

Lingerie De Paris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair to the person getting the service, there are a lot of crappy waiters and waitresses and delivery drivers, case in point we got a hotels a lot and they never wanted to deliver to the room but leave it in the lobby. Well the reason I get it to begin with that I'm in my sleep where already hey Shirley don't want to go down to the lobby, also it's been missed delivered many times and they don't even know their own address in their own cities.

Lingerie De Paris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, I can see if it was 5 or 10 pieces, the time to deliver would have been the same as one pizza, but I would presume it's about 100 pizzas and that takes time going up and down as well as helping set it up for them to serve, I think something fair I should have been given like 75 or $100 for their time.

Brian Godby
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I worked at Dominos and Pizza hut they paid minimum wage and gas money. I look at the pizza before I rip. And I usually tip few bucks if the roads are icy or if it's raining out. I rip a dollar a drink when I go out when I go to dinner I try and tip well if the service is good. I have tipped hugely on a small bill and and service was great. I went to smokey Joe's and the waitress was kind of rude to my roommate and it was after the noon lunch rush. There was like five or six cars in parking lot. Only our table was being used.. our bill came out to #42 bucks. My roommate says is five bucks enough I said she brought out three plates and two drinks. And she was kinda rude. So I think it's just fine. Now a few months ago we went to this little hole in the wall restaurant for breakfast a ma and pa's place. The waitress she greeted us asked if we wanted coffee and brought us coffee and menus. She kept the coffee cups full. She was talking to us was nice and I tipped her the same as the

A Random Anvil
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As much as tipping reflects the toxic work culture these people have to endure, it needs to be done because otherwise these poor workers cannot make a basic living. While we fight to dismantle the system, we need to ensure that the workers are able to survive. $20 doesn't cut it. Especially on a nearly $1000 order! All the boxes, heating for ovens, assembling and ingredients needs to be compensated for.

TheReader19
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From UK here, I really hate top culture. I'm going to get down voted but if I'm paying £'s for my food or what ever I don don't actually want to pay you more for doing your job. Campaign for minimum wage and tips should be a bonus.

Ivona
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The transportation/delivery fee should be included in the price, and the driver should be paid for driving and mileage by the company. The customer isn't obligated to pay extra, and there's no law stipulating 18% tips. Even $1 over the actual amount is a tip. As long as customers leave tips, the restaurants will continue underpaying their employees.

Simon Gabb
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got a great tip as a country taxi driver here on Australia once. Fare was about $20, tip was $30 and a slab of VB beer. Average earnings that day about $30 an hour and that was in the mid 90s

Diphylleia Grayi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a child I remember asking my parents why they would tip, they say it was like an appreciation for their service. At that time people would have a salary, then several years after that, from time to time I started watching empty cans asking for tipping because they would help them to make their expected salaries. Whose are the bastards that started that practice that not attending tables or selling something would equal to not receiving their expected/promised salary? like: if you don't attend this number of people if you don't sell this we won't pay your work day. This is a rule among the worst I have understand when growing up.

Stay Off My Lawn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping all my money to the server because I’m guilty about my party’s bad behavior is exactly why I don’t go out with family anymore. Also, tipping culture is toxic af. It’s the employer’s job to pay their servers, not the customers. Capitalism is a cancer.

Randy Gordon
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact is that is our culture. Don't eat out if you are so damn cheap you don't leave a tip.my partner and I always leave at least a $20 bill even when the meal is not much.come on, $20 on a $928 order. That is bull****. If you ate from another country, don't walk into.a restaurant unless you can pay a tip. Go eat fast food! It is not the server's fault. My aunt lived near Canada. She would flat out tell those Canadians how cheap they were after leaving a 25 cent tip. It is. Just the way it works here.

Momus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The f*****g "18% minimum tip"!?!?! Are you f*****g kidding me? 18% is minimum now? Do you know what happens when you tip? The owners of businesses say "oh, we don't have to pay the employees as much because they get tips", and the lawmakers create exceptions that allow these people to be paid less. Here's a tip USA -- stop f*****g tipping! Reset the culture so that companies have to actually pay a real wage.

Ava O'Brien
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I myself am a pizza delivery driver and I'm what's known as a tipped employee which means I make less than minimum wage and have to rely on tips for the majority of my income. Most people these days don't even tip 20% hell 99% of the time they don't even tip 10%. I don't care if it's a $30 order. The least you can do is tip me $6

Aaron Taylor
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a BRIT, if the meal and service are nice, I'll tip a few pounds. I don't see why the tip would be calculated as a percentage of the food order. Like who would pay 168 dollars to a driver for what might have taken her maybe 10 minutes more than a single pizza.

Fair Sparrow
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my country tipping is kinda mandatory, but it's around 10-12%, 16 if you reeeeeealy happy. We have minimum wage. Waiters gets 10-15$ per hour. Waiters also never pay to other stuff like bellboys and bartenders, unless the day was really busy day and bartender jumped out of their pants. I usually tip 16%, because even with this, service is a shitty tiring job. They also very often can demand to pay for their taxi if they don't have other means to get to the shift. Don't know about delivery, but they certainly have minimum wage as well. But 25%, jeezz... Are you all right, America?

Pam H
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First, I am not tipping a pizza delivery driver based on percentage. Its the same effort to bring 3 pizzas as one. For $1,000 worth of food, okay I’ll up the tip, but no way $168. Secondly, businesses need to pay a living wage and stop exploiting workers through tip culture. Charge enough to pay workers a living wage and be done.

Yea ok
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Upliftimg Story: we ordered pizzas for an event and our leaders had preplanned to bless whoever delivered it. He showed up and walked in our gym, with 6 hot yummy pies! Boss yelled "who has cash for a tip?!" The whole fam raised hands, and we all formed a tipping line up with 10s, 20s and 50s! He left with close to $3,000!!

Gregg Leventhal
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked for tips for about 8 years, mostly delivering Pizza and Chinese food. Rich people are cheap, and women are usually cheaper than men. I really appreciated good tips, but generally thought anything 10% or over was fair. This was around 2000. It's gotten crazy these days. The expectations of delivery people have gotten way out of control. That said, even back then, for 1000 dollars of pizza and multiple elevator trips, $50 seems fair (based on my 20 years ago mindset). $20 would probably have been more likely though because that's how people are. I tip well personally, most of the time, because I know it's easy to do to make someone happy. But the entitlement of people is also a little much.

Alejandro Reyes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Very interesting, in the metro area where I live in Mexico, you normally pay a flat delivery fee and you're not expected to pay a tip. If you were to tip at a restaurant, a 10 to 15% tip would be customary.

john kavanagh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Include the salary of the staff in the takings and let customers decide if they want to eat and pay. Tipping is one of the things that would prevent me from ever visiting the USA again. Not because I'm poor (I'm not) but because I don't like tipping for poor service or arrogant waiting staff. If I feel someone has gone beyond the call of duty, I reciprocate at my own discretion. Not someone else's.

john kavanagh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a cheek she had to expect such a bonanza. Get a job with a salary. In a country that doesn't give a s**t about its inhabitants welfare, the people are still deluded into thinking it's the best country in the world. Why? We have yet to be educated as to why.

Joan Haugaard Jensen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Europe we almost never tip. It is not normal. If we tip it normally goes into a "jar" at the place for everybody to share. Wages should not depend on tip. The Wages needs to get up so that People actually gets paid the right and fair amount.

Karin Morris
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok while i think $20 is cheap for all that work for a corporate delivery. I would never tip a pizza delivery person the same amount as a waitress in a restaurant, that's complete BS, all they do is drop the boxes off. They don't do 1/8th of the work that a restaurant worker does. Pizza deliveries to the door is maybe $2. Restaurant dinner with a great waiter is 20%

Fred Bigox
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe the tip came out of the guys pocket and not company card. It could also be if any tips on company card they have to reimburse the company

Jason Melvil
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, OP is the total AH for 3 reasons: 1) Stop blaming the customers. If you think the client should pay $160 more then the owner of the pizza place should charge him for it. 2) Stop repeating this idiotic phrase "until it changes, tip people". It's the exact OPPOSITE. As long as you continue to tip, the problem perpetuates. If workers can't make a living wage in this job - they wouldn't work in it. Owners would have to raise salaries or go out of business. By being an idiot and pay tips, you are keeping the poor worker in the environment and make it look like there is no problem. Tipping is the problem, not the solution. 3) What is this nonsense of "it's not your money"? Company money is still money. It doesn't grow on trees and it has its purpose. You don't go spending it freely just because it's not yours. This is the mentality that get people to steal and embezzle.

SallyMJ MJ
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was 20, a few weeks before Christmas, our college pastor at church talked to us about tipping. We all felt guilty; we all wanted to change. At lunch after church that day, we tipped so much that we gave a huge tip to the waitress, and had enough left over to buy a Christmas tree for a poor family. We learned, and we felt good about it. Great object lesson. At age 20. You should be using a scalpel on the guilty, not a sledgehammer on the innocent as well. From whom are other people learning this at age 20? You can’t wait until the system changes; you need to give and show mercy to people now.

Greta Hoostal
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The government is responsible for this. It “revised the tip credit provisions to allow employers to pay qualifying tipped employees no less than $2.13 per hour if they received the remainder of the statutory minimum wage in tips”, https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/history but if you don’t, you probably won’t get paid. How could you prove it? I didn’t get that much one summer. Made up for it multiple times over at a different job a few years later, though. But not everyone can.

Dreamcatcher ton
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

California has minimum wage at the same level for everyone including servers. I don’t participate in tip culture because of it. Everyone should learn their states regulation because its different per state.

SilverSkyCloud
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how in the name of anything does a pizza hut order cost over $900, are they funding a wedding??? maybe if the US spent less money on shooty bang bang sticks they could ACTUALLY pay a decent wage

Jonathan Nichols
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember in California they were going to pass legislation to require a minimum wage for restaurant workers. The anti-legislation commercials told people "they're trying to take your tips away". It didn't pass.

Lee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay, I tip delivery drivers, but i don't tip what I would in a restaurant. The 18% is for me not having to lift a finger for the meal, including clean up.

Jaybird3939
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would love to get rid of the tipping culture. BUT, remember how businesses lost their minds when it was proposed to get minimum wage of $15 in place? Can you imagine how much of a hissy fit they'd have?

Ximena Arbelaez
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, you already working a job, and the whole tipping thing thing is just designed for employees to act overly nice in the border with hypocrisy. As a costumer I prefer honest interactions and no tip, than some BS over performed. People acting too weird over tipping, and they try to calculate the tip in front of the waiter??? that's just rude.

Anonymous Poster
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is not the customer's responsibility to pay the wages of another company's employees. This should be taken care of by the employer, not the consumer.

adaca welsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Corporate credit cards are monitored and mandated by federal law. Cash over a certqin amount would be considered bribery money and subject to federal fines. Also drivers often make minimum wage. Theyre not supposed to be tipped. Waiters often make 2 bucks an hour as their salary which is why they get "tipped" as their wage. However this leads to disparity and inconsistency. Tipping should not be a thing and everyone should be paid a livable wage. Stop with this tipping nonsense.

Mark Wlodawski
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A corporate credit card means the company sets a limit on what can be used and audits the expenses. Hollywood has made the company credit card and its user out to have an unlimited shipping spree ability, when in fact anything more than $20 might have come out of her paycheck or gotten her in big trouble. Delivery or waiting tables are OK jobs to get you off your feet or during college, but please don't get dependent on them. Like I was.

Jeff Diamond
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've delivered for four different companies, and it's horrible. In the early 00's when I was delivering for Domino's, I got $5.15 per hour, plus tips. Which I felt was pretty good for a kid just out of hough school. So I decided to try Grubhub for a while when I was out of work last year. I made a total of $7,000 in six months, and I had to use about $2k of that for gas. Tip culture crushes people who don't have anything else. Especially when you drive for someone who pays nothing per hour, plus half your area is wealthy neighborhoods where they only give you $1.50 for driving across the valley.

Johnny Ruffin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've had a similar experience, where I delivered $900 worth of Panera Bread for Door Dash toba College for a faculty function. The college did not tip and I drove from downtown Dallas to the college in Lancaster, Texas about 20 miles. And was only paid the Door Dash Driver fee of like $4.50 for the entire order. That didn't even cover my gas. Come to n now the college and Door Dash was wrong in my opinion, at some point where does the automatic gratuity for orders over a certain price and distance come into play. But Door Dash scams us drivers anyways. Because if you receiver multiple orders you will only get the drivers fee (between $2.50 and $3.50) only for the first order. So Door Dash pockets the fee for the other orders. Not sure why when I still have to drive and pick up and deliver the food to different customers.

D'Angelo McAlpine
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work for Domino's but doing this covid pandemic and with gas prices going up ,people don't tip still. Everyday I get a lot of contactless deliveries pay with CC and no tip and says leave that door but IDKY companies raise the delivery fees for each delivery some days "corporate"make more than me and I'm the delivery driver. And also it's just professional courtesy if you live in apartment and you want pizza delivered to the 5th floor and your front door leave a tip lol

John Kiernan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"It’s exploitative and is only kept in place by companies as a way to keep labor costs way down by having the customer be the primary source of a worker’s income.” The customer is always the only source of the worker's income, whether it goes thru the owner or directly to the worker.

Philip Williams
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never met anyone who planned and joined a trade, a vocation, did six years of military service, or had some realistic direction for their student loans who has these problems. Just saying. If there are no laws that an employer could be prosecuted with for not providing a living wage then they may not agree to voluntarily.

Louis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Btw I'm glad the entire comment section is tearing this girl apart lol. Beg for tips and get laughed at by the whole internet lol

Petty P
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've done pizza delivery, now I do delivery of food, alcohol and snacks. I like what I do, I don't have the same issue with the wealthy. Its just, you really never know honestly. I've had so strange or f'ed up interactions. One guy when I worked at papa johns called in a order and paid cash when I got there. He handed me 40$ and his order was 36-37$. He asked me for the change (we weren't allowed to carry any cash). I informed him I have other deliveries in my car, and that I'd need to goto the store to get the change. He told me he'd wait, I get back to the store about 30 minutes later he called the store. I was gonna bring it back, I'm not gonna get fired for 3$. But I also informed him he would have to wait, I told my manager. He just told me make sure I take it to him cause he called about it. I've had plenty of other interactions that where just too much for no reason. I don't expect a tip but its always the unsmooth transactions.

Hufflepuff (any pronouns)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know 18% tip is a lot, but $20 was a 2% tip. if you can afford almost $1,000 of pizza, you can afford at least a 10% tip, especially when the delivery person carries it up 3 floors and sets it up nicely for you

Bridget Fajardo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would agree that companies should pay their employees better so they don't have to depend on a tip, but with saying that doesn't change the fact that if I feel I got good service I TIP. As a pizza delivery driver she could of had them come down collect the pizza themselves and just leave but it sounds like this delivery driver went out of her way to carry it all up then set it up for them as well and with gas prices like they are right now that $20 probably just covered her gas.when I have a pick up order guess what I still tip as long as their service is good tip them shoot I tipped an employee at jack in the box , del taco, Bakers and those are simply fast food places if you feel someone gives good service and you see them busting their butts with a smile on their face and you know they work in a under appreciated under paid job it's simply showing their appreciated.But I don't like the mandatory tip because if I feel the services were no good staff was rude ect.then I won't tip.

Terri Snelling
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a pizza hut delivery driver and our base pay is NOT minimum wage. The employees working in store making the pizzas earn more in hourly wages than drivers do. However I do have a wage. If you use Door Dash or some other delivery service those drivers do not make a wage. Their earnings are strictly tips

E Talavera
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like to eat out bcuz I'm Ali e all day but can't always do a good tip & pay for my meal.

Jr. Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked for papa John's as a delivery driver they tell ya your gonna make like 13 or 14 an hr but they only give you half that they expect the customer tips to cover the other half i remember one week my actual pay check was only like 97$ I was upset 😡 I had a car payment due on the car I bought to deliver pizza in then like less than a week after this when I was getting off work still in my uniform I was hit by a car in on coming traffic and was fired because they didn't want the bad publicity of one of there workers being in an accident Is what I was told but my manager being a stripper at night didn't bother them one bit

Aubrey Jones
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I personally feel that tipping should be a gratuity and based on what the costumer feels is appropriate in each and every situation. I do not think that, as a Gratuity, it should be mandatory. But I was taxed on a percent of my sales and was made to pay those taxes on top of my wage taxes. I have no issues with paying taxes either. But I do not feel I should be made to pay taxes on money that I did not receive in tips. In this situation, that $20 tip is usually split up with some going to cooks, dish pit, order taker, and delivery diver. Oh and a bit for gas as well. Were this in Washington State, the tip of 18% on that and every order she delivered would be added up with wages BEFORE taxes and deductions are taken out the the total tips would be subtracted from this total then the remainder will be her take home earnings. I’m think that this is federal not just state because Washington uses sales tax not income. What I’m trying to say is that tipping is not a gratuity anymore. The government has passed in the 1990s that it is income and taxable. This is not appropriate in any way.

Ricson Singson Que
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In out country tipping is optional. We have a culture of service charge (SC). This is usually done for middle to higher end service industry which started with hotels and fine dining outlets. The SC is included in the total bill that the customer needs to pay aside from taxes. Customers assume all of these go to the staff force including the back office people. If you do not agree with the SC, then clients can go to another resto. Smaller establishments still do with traditional tipping practices from which our culture expects nothing...

ralph longo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping culture isn't bad, but it has become a slippery slope that IS bad. I delivered/worked for Pizza Hut for 25 years, when I started there was the sense of "If I can do it myself but I'm having someone else do it, it should be a tipped job." Most good servers/drivers can make way more money than a company could pay them, and they earn that money by being great for the customers. I've done serving, at Applebee's, and Delivery, servers don't like to hear it but delivery is a WAY more difficult job. Never once did I feel uncomfortable, or thought about my life being on the line, as a server. As a delivery driver that is literally a daily occurrence, bad drivers, dark house at night, left a note to "come around to the back door" are all totally normal. Is it 110 degrees outside? I hope the AC works but I put 30k miles of stop and go driving on my car in most years. -10 outside, with snow? Hope the heat works. Rain, you're out driving in it all. I could go on for hours, frankly.

Brian Poague
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been working at Domino's since March of 2020. I make $8.00 an hour while in the store, and $3.75 an hour plus $0.45 per mile while on deliveries. It amazes me how people think we get the delivery fee (which keeps going up yet my wage does not) but we never see it. All of our prices have been steadily rising, yet our wages stay the same. Yes, tipping culture is horrible but think about the delivery drivers. We are using our own money to bring your food to you and we usually average $3-4 tip. Most of the time drivers also take orders and make the food as well. Wait staff just takes your order, refills your drinks and brings your food in the same building and usually make more in tips than we do. Think about that next time you feel the need to stiff a delivery driver. Instead, come pick it up yourself.

Brian G.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Delivery Fee....doesn't it go in turn to support the drivers somehow,I thought it went to offer benefits to delivery drivers?? Am I incorrect on this? If so could you explain where it does go

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BusLady
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rich people are stingy. I think we all know that. Money corrupts them. That's how they got wealthy and how they stay that way. They live in a different world.

Tiffany Jasgarszewski
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have worked in this industry for many many years. And it's sad. I worked for a restaurant in Kentucky years ago, that when it was time to vote for restaurants to start paying these employees an hourly wage instead of relying on tips, that the owner told us to vote No against this. This is BS. There needs to be a union set up for this industry in smaller towns. Vegas has a union. In California servers get hourly and sometimes gets tips as well. People don't understand that we have to pay 13% of our total sales out of the end of each day ,added up for a year, and that's the taxes we pay for other people to eat and drink. Yes, we have to pay even though sometimes we get Zero in tips. And it is very well know that the wealthiest are the cheapest tippers while the middle class to poor are the kindest. It's sad but very true. We do not like waiting on you cheap a*s people. You complain the most , run us the most and always try to get stuff for free. It's annoying.

Alin Fazakas
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boredpanda used to have good articles. Now they write about this type of things. I've got news for you: not the client is the AH in this story.

Brian G.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And they will in turn Tip the U.S. for such great delivery service of items! Items seized by Russia as it turns out all this free stuff made no difference. But yes Tip is in the mail

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if we should tip this luxury service we're all using right now????

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

AHHHH YES!!! THE IMPORTANT TOPICS WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON!! IF THIS IS THE WORST IN YOUR WORLD I DARE SAY,MOVE ON WITH A SMILE.

Jennifer Sturgeon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think many are missing the point. Yes, I think people should be outside a livable wage, but it would drive prices up... The point is, if you go out or order in, people are doing you a service! Why fast food is different than dine in! When you order food to be delivered, they are taking their time, their gas and their effort to get the food to you, not to mention preparing the food! If you don't believe in tipping, then cook yourself! 20 dollars wasn't even good enough for her to carry the c**p up.. imagine how many people were eating that food!? If each person put in a dollar, it would've been more than 20 dollars! And I don't want to hear that's her job... Her job is to get it there.. she could've handed it all to the "contact" person and said have a good one... I bet she would've if she knew what the tip was... This is why customer service is going to c**p, definitely not like it used to be... Customers are becoming more entitled because they think they're special! Wrong!

Joe Black
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why don't companies pay enough so their worker can live comfortably. No one is obligated to tip for any service they are already paying for. Tipping culture is disgusting.

Likely Scamington
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping fairly is easy though you cheap MFR's... IF YOU CAN'T TIP RIGHT THEN STAY HOME! IF THE TIP ISN'T ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE WHOLE AMOUNT YOU HAD EXPECTED TO SPEND ON DINNER OUT, OR ON YOUR DELIVERY THAN DRINK OR EAT LESS. TO TIP FAIRLY: DOUBLE THE TAX AND ADD $1-5 DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE... IT COMES OUT TO 15-17% EVERYTIME... YOU'RE WELCOME FROM LAS VEGAS IM OUT...

Darway Lin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For an outsider's point of view, yes, tipping culture in the US is truly stupid and unjust.

Asher Arendale
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny I should stumble on this article today. I was just groaning about a tip I had to leave just several hours back. I've been the tipper and have also worked jobs where I relied on tips, so like a lot of people I've been on both sides. IMO the tip culture is a scam. It allows employers to not even have to pay their employees the legal minimum wage requirement which is an accomplishment in itself. It also puts undue pressure, and stress, on employees. I try to be not only logical and practical about everything in life but also reasonable, and I think that tipping is only ever really legit when it's not a major source of income for an employee and when it's not required from clients. I'm sure one can argue that tip culture is practical, and I bet some expert lawyer out there can make an argument for tip culture being logical. But I don't believe you can put 'tip culture' and 'reasonable' together in the same sentence and make any sense to anyone.

Mickey Bugh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We made 20+ pizzas for the U of Arizona softball team when they came to Seattle last year. No tip.

Michelle Pratte
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, I used to work at an Applebee's in Southern Indiana. I worked there for eight wonderful years!! I had good days and I had bad days. I was a server of course, I had my regular customers who became like family to me and I had customers whom I hoped I would never see again, but we all do who work in the service industry! When I order pizza it's always an argument between my husband and I on the tip! He believes no tip and I believe at least 15% or more. When times are rough and we "treat" ourselves I try to make sure the delivery driver, to go person, or my server gets a minimum of 15% and when times are good I make up for what I couldn't do before and they get 20% or higher! Statistics say the second most stressful job in the world is being a server! The first is an airline steward or stewardess!!! So seriously if you don't want to tip your servers or delivery driver that's on you!! Should servers make more, absolutely but until that happens cook your own food or burn up your own gas

Psychosis8232
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hysterics ensue but to a lot of people saying drivers make minimum wage servers don't blah blah blah that may be true some places but not all I been working for pizza hut for over 2 years as a driver "servers" make 12.25/ hr I make 7.00/hr fed minimum wage is a pathetic 7.50 but as is plainly noticeable there I make less then federal minimum as YUM brands uses federal tipped employee minimum wage wich is currently a laughable 2.75/hr for drivers and pays out so little in fuel reimbursement that we typically need to drive 20 miles to pay for a single gallon of gas they also have us use our own vehicles which we must insure ourselves and pay for all maintenance ourselves which means tires,brakes,oil/fluid changes,plugs and wires,and cleaning the vehicle to name just a few basics so no these two persons are not the same they pay for a couple pairs of shoes we pay for thousands in routine maintenance a year and the damned tread safe shoes that fall apart faster when walking in mud and grim

Enby Gilbert
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Too many of these commenters either don't understand what US workers are dealing with or they didn't really pay attention to the story. In the end, this seems like just one more chance for Bored Panda editors to create a space for people to bash the US. We know this is a problem. Dozens of people being rude does not help the workers in this country deal with that. It's not that hard to write about other things, folks.

Dustin Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My wife (non-us born) currently works in a restaurant. They do not pay the tips directly to the waitresses, instead she makes about $3 above minimum wage. She has expressed a desire to work somewhere that she would get tips, believing she would make more. I have tried to convince her that her current situation is a lot better because she makes "consistent" wages. Although, I do not agree with the fact the current employer doesn't give the tips to the staff. I feel that at least they should divide say 75% equally among those working that shift (although I know some will say 100%, but I do think some could go back into the business itself, JMO)

Matthew Kaiser
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping has gotten out of control. Is 20 fair for the extra work she did lugging it up the stairs and setting it up, no it's not at the same time 18 percent is way too much I would say 50 would be fair. Twenty should cover getting the food to the elevator. Another 10 to bring it upstairs and another 20 to set it up. It was wrong he knew he's was screwing her on tip for all the extra work she did and didn't need to take advantage of her figuring she went the extra mile knowing she's trying to get a better tip. I think it's rather foolish to deliver using your own car. The amt of value your car looses, the set in gas, the maintenance bills, etc. Your car also smells terrible and your sickened by the smell of food. You worked for free by the end 2. All you earned probably paid for the car. The more u work the more milage etc. It's a step foward and two steps back. You lost all the money you could have made during that time that didn't cost u the value of a car and its maintenance. I believe the term is a pyric victory. It's rather sad. There's no cost effective way for things to work for a delivery company. Eventually somewhere at sometime, someone pays the price.

Jerami Draper
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dominos charges a delivery fee. I assume that goes to the driver?

Beth Kostrab
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a company cardfor one job and was an admin who ordered food for lunches all the time. We actually had a max that we could tip delivery drivers because of the amount of orders they got from our organization. I don't remember the amount but this could be a similar situation. Not saying it's right but sometimes policies stink. Also when I had those large orders we always went through catering options because we knew they charged for their time in this situations and didn't make their employee only rely on tips.

Uvo Zodd
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A delivery job isn't supposed to be a "living" wage job. It's supposed to be for high schoolers and college kids. If you want enough money to support a family then get a better paying job. It's not up to every company to pay this living wage everyone seems to just assume they are owed. Grow up and get a real job ffs.

Jaya Kumari Veeraraghavan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Companies should pay employees a living wage and not make clients pay tips. Getting $2.15 per hour is crazy. After all the company is making the profit. They should pay their employees a living wage.

Tickled Pickle
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered pizzas for a couple years. I still remember the biggest tip I got. It was I think an $80 order. They handed me a wad of cash. I counted it out, and found a mistake in the amount they gave me. I went back and told them, and they told me to keep it for my honesty. It was over half what the order itself was. I was thrilled. I also remember getting ripped $0 by a church that put in a $250 order, so...

Michael Barber
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She fo what she deserved after expecting an 18% tip of 168$ wtf you are a f*****g delivery driver your job is not that hard

Shehzadi Amal
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked Dominos and routinely delivered huge orders to corporate customers......One was 60 pizzas, plus two litres, plus additionals like plates and what not. Dude *walks with me*, not carrying anything for each of the five trips to my car and all the way to the back of this very large store.....let me add I was limping on a swollen and braced ankle as he watched. They generously gave me a $6 tip. The most you could usually hope for was $20 on those big orders, but that was rarely.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He didn't apply for your job! He was smart enough to the wage for doing said task,vs cost of living =you're f****d. You agreed and signed that dotted line. What would you tip him for doing part of your job...ya know the one you accepted after being told the wage and job requirements for said wage. Would he expect your hourly or what %tip

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Samantha Velez
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand these people do deliveries with the expectation of getting tips but how about be grateful for the tip u did get and stop worrying about the amount you thought you were gonna get. People are just so ungrateful now a days and that is really sad. If she had such a problem with what they gave her don’t go talk about people tell them right then & there or don’t say nothing at all

Steve Plew
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Resturant industry hasn't paid their employees squat and expect the public to make it up. We now pay way to much for their for as it is. The middle class is abour busted we can't keep supporting the load. Maybe it's time the delivery people found a democrat or maybe just send a tip request straight to joe biden let him pay it at least he would be doing something for our country he's a bad joke at least he got a tip. The only tip in 47 yrs of work i got was when i lived in louisville on a horse and it was a bad one

Aaron Goodman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ah, only in USA and Canada. Nobody in all world have the culture of tips and if you tip in Japan the worker will be offended.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good thing we're not f*****g talking about Japan isn't it!! I bet in f*****g Ukraine, nobody gives a s**t and in most countries the same

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Chad Shaffer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being that I worked in a restaurant for 25 years, working my way from dishwasher to manager I have seen many things. One topic of debate was always tipping. I actually am about 50/50 on the issue, I have always said the customer is going to be the one to pay regardless. Now if it was changed to paying servers to a higher wage what's going to happen is the establishment will adjust their menu prices once again putting it on the customer. So either way the customer is going to pay. Now on the other side I do believe that a server and a delivery driver should be rewarded on the basis of their service. This person was definitely shafted,if you want them to bring it plus set it all up then have it catered. This is a way the big companies get out of paying a large catering bill. Tipping is always going to be a debatable topic and there is always going to be good and bad points to it all.

Oliver Johnson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ive been in the service industry for 20 years. I have worked mostly as a bartender but also had jobs as a server only and worked a few catering jobs too. Catering is where the tipping culture truly hits the exploitative proverbial "tipping point"(yes, pun intended) where these owners of catering companies charge literally for everything possible includng per staff member needed for an event. I went on one jobs websites and they charged customers $7 an hour more than they actually paid anybody. $7 f**king dollars an hour per server or bartender working the event!?!? Not just that but since the IRS changed the defintion of any auto-grat or service charge fee was now consdered income for the house. So what did the owners do? Keep all the tips ob-v. I cant fault them for that but where I do fault them is not disclosing none of it goes to staff. This is only an issue in catering as bars and restaurants took autograts from menus but cateting did not. Guess % that the staff gets. Y

dan panetta
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hell no. I would leave all that pizza at the front desk. I know for damn sure not to expect some large tip and setting myself up for disappointment. In this society don’t expect anything.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Says the guy living in his mom's basement, whos never been employed, and sucks off of the tipped and non tipped alike tax dollars

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Kathy the Avocado
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In addition, for the people who say to get better jobs: getting a better job isn’t a walk in the park either. And for that statement, you better make sure to cook your own gourmet meals. If you don’t know how to cook, learn to cook then. Or pick up your own meals. “But what about gas?” Then, you see how the delivery people going through. Gas is steep itself, so $168 would pay for gas, their own food, help pay rent, get extra necessities as well. It’s probably the same people who thinking tip that much for a $938 food is the people who think books are expensive. Just stick dollar stores and thrift shops then.

Kathy the Avocado
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the people who say tipping $168 is steep just basically missed the point like missing target on the dart board: she didn’t JUST deliver the pizza to the company. When she arrived, she unloaded, hauled it up to the office, and set up the pizza for the f*****g people. Had the people JUST picked up the pizza themselves when she handed them the boxes, then yeah the tip should be $80-$100, but she basically worked like Rocinante with the boxes and set up the boxes. America is basically a broke a*s with a Ferrari, Versace sunglasses, and Gucci bags.

Scott Kuechenmeister
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

America's white male dominated society is an epic fraud of "equality and opportunity". Abandon the service industry or forever kneel on bended knee to those who do not value your contribution or needs. Let the greedy rich serve their own lattes because only then will they depart with their pilfered riches . (women, he, she, they) 😉

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I bet where your from all come on Sunday to set around you and listen to all your words. And your government I'm sure gives daily parades to all your contributions and at the end listen to your needs. F*****g Tool. That's the problem with foreign lands....They're full of foreigners

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James E White
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i work at a Lowe's Home Improvement in building material. We are pulling orders for customers all day long while they stand now running their d**k suckers and flirting with women. We pull the order we load the order and we don't get tipped the damn thing so stop your bitching about a $20 tip!!!!

Andrew Kruzz
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my advice, don't expect more for what you do to anyone (sorry if my english is bad )

Marie Cadavieco
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is outrageous that the company charges stupid money for fast food and the delivery driver does not get their fair share, esp if they have tompay for their own ptrol or diesel.

Randy Coffman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You ever go out if thus country you realize how screwwd we are by this tipping system. I've been in brazil no matter what you order how much they leave a real tip about 20 cents here they pay there waiters like everyone else. If a waiyer waits on 4 rables a hour which isnt a lot of work you tipping 18% that is 4 tables 100 a table thats 64 dollars a hour. You work 40 hours a week thats a 133k to wait rables. Nit counting the 2 dollars a hour the restuarsnts have to pay. We waste billions on tips a year.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And Brazil is so much better. Great laws,non corrupt government, poverty levels so much better than US,homeless population is great,child abduction and being forced into sex trade is astonishing, LMFAO. And that tip&currency is so worth all that clean,great living because its worth next to nothing on the world stage

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Mohammad Rahman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also no one tip the uber driver. I worked for uber for two years and only twice I got $20 tip. Once I got $10. 95% of my customers never paid me any tip (those includes Casino owner and CEO and very successful people).

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why are you all info collecting on your customers? How do you all know what each did, net worth,etc., I'd say your tip fishing and trying to extort

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Mohammad Rahman
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Mohammad Rahman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as an uber driver for two years. 95% of my customers didn't pay me any tip. Those who tipped me usually paid me a dollar or two. In my long driving career only two customers paid me $20 as a tip and one customer paid me $10.

Diane Tenoso
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked at Holiday Inn Salina Ks ( years ago) I had a party table. Was 45 or so people I was the only waitress. Working the table But all went well so I thought.... I served alcohol drink soda tea and such. Took there order and delivered the food. Also Desserts Not once did I ask them who had chicken who had steak. I had a system and it worked. They left not one tip on the table so I ask the hostess they left Nothing........ I was very upset I was raising 3 kids on 2.25 a hour. This took all the hours for my shift. I had no chance to get other tables. I was given this because they knew I could handle it. They had went into the bar. The manager ask why no tip? What was wrong? The man in charge said... she missed a drink! What one drink and no tip. Yes he said. She messed up. GET OUT ! We're the next words from the manager. He argued with her. She called the big boss in told him what happened. He said Get Out. The hotel paid me my 20% from general fund

Jessica Mallott
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So you’re working a job making 2.25 an hour and expected to support and raise 3 kids? U agreed to that job and to the wage. That’s on u

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Alana Voeks
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Considering we just went back 100 years with abortions, I highly doubt that waitstaff are gonna be any goal for the jackasses in government. That means more money they'd need to spend out because none of them cook! These morons only give a s**t if you're a fetus. Day to day life for those who are actually alive they couldn't care less about, and that's especially true of people in lesser paid starting positions. I can guarantee you, the only reason people are paid wages at all is because they'd have buildings burned and knocked down and people putting a stranglehold on what the government could do otherwise. They planned to take over the citizens, it just took a few generations.

Gabriele Profita
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

American tipping "culture" is complete b******t, the owner of the restaurant/pizzeria/food place earns from their employees the same way any other business does, so why should they rely on tips? Why should the responsibility of their pay be shifted to the customers when it's the employer duty to pay their employees? Why does this thing happen only on the food industry? Why tipping is percentage based? All of this is total nonsense since the employee doesn't pay for the food so it's not like a more expensive order automatically results in way more work on their side. Tipping in other countries is considered just as a nice small little extra and never becomes huge based on the amount spent. If that was the case sign me up to work in some luxury restaurant serving all stuff from $100 up so that from every single table I'll get tips so huge I'll earn more than someone with a qualified job...

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Americas worker culture seems to be f*****g r******d. Before they accept the job the wage and task for wage are explained! Guess what...you don't have to accept. In the same time you took to write this could have applied somewhere else. Not today! Instead of moving on you want to move an immovable object! They don't tip for stupid either I hope they know@!! Do tip the dispensary worker

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Nácole Singletary
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For all these people who keep talking about Amazon and USPS Drivers etc. Please note that these drivers are paid WELL for what they do. I don't know about everywhere but where I live some of them make almost $30/h I would say they are pretty well compensated for their time. And they are not using their own cars their own gas not are they expected to keep maintenance up or insurance on the vehicle they are driving. But for delivery drivers all of that is expected to be handled by them. With gas at an all time high, and the cost of living nearly 45% higher than it was 2 years ago some of these drivers might not be making enough to fill the tank up after paying rent and food and any other expenses they have in order to survive. And if you are a server or anything like that it is even worse $2.13 an hour and some of them are required to split tips with cooks and bussers, which by the way are making minimum wage or better already. It's b******t it's ugly and it's always will be

K Clarke
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Very few wealthy people can relate, so they don't understand; and even less care about anything, or anybody outside of their selfish little bubble.

Sheila Stamey
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But .. Just for the sake of, it's is what it is, because the tip culture isn't going anywhere soon. Just saying. How about we remember that the drivers, delivery folks, wait staff, even hairdressers get tips! I agree, tip culture sucks, it's really difficult to budget when you just have no clue how much you are going to be paid. I've walked out with five bucks after a shift, because of bad weather, and I've gone home with $3,000. You can't even average it out. It reduces you to begging slavey style to every customer. But you can never say the word tip. EVER. not to a CUSTOMER!

Tyler Christian
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I tip based on time mostly. Anything less than 1 hour I will tip around $10. 1 1/2 hours I will tip $15. 2 hours is $20. They are getting money that they can do under the table if they want and don't have to pay taxes on because I hand them cash. But I agree that $168 is too much. I would have probably tipped about $75 for that many pizzas but I would have also had a rolling table or a chair to get it back upstairs! I consider how much effort someone has to put out for me. If I'm inside a restaurant I will tip very well because someone is "waiting" on me...bringing me things and refilling drinks. But driving and delivering is not usually strenuous and it's not multiple trips to my table for our needs, so I go by time spent.

Bob Cakin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the flabbergastingfart guy, the fact that rich people tend to tip less than poor people is not surprising. Poor people usually know what it's like to work those service industry jobs where you're buating your a*s, not making a substantial amoubt of money, and completely reliant on tips. Most rich people in the US (and the west in general) were born with their wealth so they have been priveleged their whole life. Rich people are also more likely to think these service industry jobs are really easy since they have never had to actually work one so they just don't appreciate it as much. In fact, many rich people never had to work a day in their lives so they just don't understand how reliant people are on tips. I'm gonna end the comment here because typing this s**t out is making me incredibly f*****g angry. Eat the rich!

Brain Willis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure what to tip anymore, but someone providing full table survive should get a good bit more than someone working the takeout counter as a percent of the order. Just as importantly, the price of a pizza pays the prep work (including topping and dough), building and cooking the pie, paying rent on the store including oven, ordering supplies snd payroll, and a lot more. Is the server really shouldering More than 20% of all this effort getting the pizza into my hands?

Kris Paul
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the love of everything please tip your Uber driver, Lyft driver, or food delivery drivers! I did over 3,000 rides as a driver and both companies take way too much of the money. Uber often took well over 50% of the fare. A short ride would only pay me $2-$3, but the customer was paying over $10. I tip at least $5 on any ride or delivery. If it's a short ride I tip $10. If it's a long ride I will tip $20. Back when I was a driver in 2017 maybe 5% of people tipped. You are getting into their own personal car and they are taking you anywhere you want to go for dirt cheap, please be generous and tip. These big tech companies don't pay anywhere near enough for Gig workers.

KJS Design
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One time I delivered an order for Ernie Bach Jr. Which is a huge person in the Massachusetts Boston area. I used to work for a coffee shop called Perks and we sold tons of food. One day I did a delivery for around a $2,000 catering order to his hanger in Norwood, Massachusetts and was left zero tip! I walked in to see his numerous high-end vehicles and his groupie girls hanging around his band while he was playing music in his hanger for people as I'm setting up an entire catering order that took me half a day to finish. Not only did I drop it off and make it perfect but I left with with zero tip at all. I was expecting 50 bucks at most but nothing

Mendevil Anthony
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If food crisis is up hill ...cost alot more on Instacart delivery ...that I use already ..wich cost me al no ist near 400$ why does Instacart still wanna charge me more for tip and delivery this world is greedy I'm on SSI did I mention so if someone is buying 900$ worth pizza ...to pizza hut why would they have to cough up tips ...if pizza hut's being paid near 900$ already ?

Ben's Friends Books Dream Cloud Ink
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So tired of hearing people whine that they didn't get a daily bonus for working... Neither do I and nobody throws me extra cash for my hard work which I guarantee is harder than setting up a few pizzas or whatever. If the job doesn't pay well look elsewhere, don't depend on others to compensate you for doing your job. Your own fault you excepted the job. I make it a point not to tip anymore because of these entitled people that thing everyone owes them something. Just do your job and be grateful for what you have and stop complaining about your wage, just find something better if it doesn't pay your bills... or stop living beyond your means like millions in credit card or student loan debt. If you don't have the money, dont borrow the money.

None Ya
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, This really is a disappointing and debatable issue. Despite the comments this is not just an American Issue. Tipping should be done across the board for many service and delivery industries but it is not.. I typically tip higher and deduct or add based on the quality of service. I think everyone should be paid a living wage no matter the industry. During Covid I have been delivering groceries, packages, shopping and such through assorted apps. Tipping is not required but has been both a delight and a annoyance. I have never worked in this type of setting before and do find it disappointing when I don't recieve a thank you or a tip. In the case of the pizza young lady. I can understand her disappointment that she didn't receive a more comparable tip. The employees certainly could have taken up a collection since to company foot the food bill. Not all corporations tip sad to say. I have mixed reactions to the wealthy being too cheap to tip. I have seen cheap tippers on both sides.

Gizmo TeknoDekkeR
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand this is a corporate group and the company paid in this instance, but generally a large group would have no issue tipping $168, as that amount of food had to go around a fair few people. Chip a few dollars in each and you're getting close to that mark easy. Why is it so hard to just be nice to the hospitality sector... I'm not going to be rude to the people handling my food!

Michael Leary
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once when it was near Xmas I ordered two large pizzas to my house. I had 300 bucks in my right pocket and the pizza money with the 20% in the left. I was so happy the guy showed up early and it was the evening of the 23rd. He gave me the pizza and wished me a merry holiday in return. I watched him walk back to his car as I locked my gate. He yelled hey man, are you sure about this tip? I said yeah have a great holiday. He was grinning so hard and couldn't stop thanking me. I thought it a tiny bit odd, but waved him on. Later that evening I realized I had pulled the cash out of my right pocket. At first I felt stupid but then felt what the heck, he'll always remember this day. Best pizza guy for the next few times - he must have been one of a few. He always was my friendly pizza guy and I was always privately happy about this. It was and always will remain 'his turn'. I always try to tip more and delivery people like him are the real hard workers. Especially pizza and weed deliveries.

Greg Sears
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have not complained or said anything to anyone. But I'd be lying in the weeds waiting for the next time I was sent to that business. I'd be leaving all kinds of special little extras in their food.

Tim Masters
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I delivered pizzas the companies making massive orders almost always screwed me super hard like this. I had orders for thousands and wouldn't get any tip sometimes.

Marsha Qualls
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would love to know the Corps name and company address. They should be ashamed of theirself. If you cant tip like your suppose to just dont go out or order in.

Rhonda Weigandt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a server for many years and there is no telling how many large groups of people I've waited on and taken very good care of that never left a tip as a tipped employee I automatically knew some people were kind enough to tip and others could care less and I want to personally thank all the people that tipped me and that tip others I depended on them for most of my personal income and if it weren't for kind generous people I would have been forced to work in another field. I liked doing what I did and taking care of people and if a person doesn't like taking care of people and serving them then they need to change jobs.I always felt that if they didn't tip they must need it worse than me and I just moved on but it takes a certain outlook to feel that way and of course I was disappointed many times that's the way it is serving the public.

Robert Harmon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Total a hole 18% is standard gratuity on large parties ie bills 400+ depending on the restaurant and because of cheapskates most restaurants factor it in to the total... She was due 18%

Julianna Yoder
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"ShaolinJohn revealed that he worked as a waiter for a few years before entering the workforce." ...anyone else see what's wrong here? This is part of the problem. Being a waiter is the workforce.

Liam MacLeod
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You want a story? Last night I had to block post after post from angry women that are taking Roe v Wade out on every man they can. It was really late, in TikTok. They weren't after me. My name at this point still is Liam Macleod. I'm going through a name change. In there, I was known as Ben Blackwell author (you're not allowed to use brackets. I'm an author, retyping a book) my name in there is Ben Blackwell (author) I had 9 sisters growing up. One lost her virginity to a date rape. My ma was also raped. Guess who's side I was on, from the beginning. My posts reflect that. I quit tick tock because for 30 years women have been saying they don't want our help. Suddenly, the men were under attack, anything from ads trying to get a petition going to force men to have vasectomies starting anywhere from age 12 to 16, to "we should never have sex with them again" it's not the men's fault. Either you want our help or you don't. The blaming and shaming of men in there was so bad I did a post, o

Demon Child
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

omg you poor thing ty for coming out as a minority I support your journey king🤗 These girls only want nice guys nowadays😠

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Michael Wandler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pizza delivery drivers almost exclusively use their personally owned vehicles to make deliveries. They are paid mileage (usually around 20 cents/mile) or by delivery (usually 75 cents to $1). This barely covers the cost of gas (before the recent cost spike). All other vehicle maintenance costs come out of the drivers’ pockets. In other words, pizza delivery drivers are basically paying money to bring you your food, as opposed to other delivery services that use company-provided vehicles. As pizza delivery pays minimum wage, if people don’t tip, it would make no sense for anyone to take those jobs. They would realize more money by working any other minimum wage job that doesn’t require them to put out money on vehicle maintenance. So, as much as any other occupation that needs tips to survive, we should all tip our pizza delivery drivers generously. That written, having delivered pizzas on and off for ten years in the past, I never would have expected a $170 tip on any order ever.

Tiffany Nonella
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping is b******t. Also, people screaming pay a living wage. What exactly is a living wage to you? Unskilled workers get paid what they deserve, hence they are unskilled. Most servers in the US make more than construction workers. Tipping culture is just another symptom of the entitlement of my generation and Gen Z. If you can't live off your wage then learn a skill and actually become a productive member of society.

Michael Wandler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is interesting how people make these mental divisions. I get paid over six figures to work in the “knowledge economy.” I got paid minimum wage to deliver pizzas. I would argue delivering food to hungry people was actually the more important of the two jobs, even though more people could do that than could successfully hold my other position. Are the suppositions we have about what accounts for skilled/unskilled, productive/unproductive, necessary/unnecessary work actually serving us well?

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Marvelous Rex
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, it's insane to me that in all the push to get min wage to $15, no one seemed to push that hard to get rid of the whole tip culture BS. How this was ever made legal in the first place is beyond me. With that out of the way, I have multiple questions about this order. Don't most places make you place catering style order or some other type of special order for large orders like this? The OP says the order $938 but it doesn't say if this was ONLY food/drinks. There could have been an extra fee in there that covered what she did. Then whoever placed the order would logically assume that she is paid out of that. Also, I've seen in corp evironments where it's not the person who orders the stuff, but rather the person who approves the expense report, who dictates how much tip (if any) can be left. So you may be attacking another underpaid worker just doing their job.

jcrmlr
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I moved back to the Indiana area after being gone for about 25 years. I never really lived there as an adult (left for school at 18). I went out to eat with my extended family at a Mexican restaurant. At the end of the meal, I was trying to assess the bill for a 20% tip, at which time my cousin said; what are you doing? I told him, and he said; oh no, tip is $1, that’s a Indiana Tip! He said they’ll expect it the next time! I said, yes, they’ll be prepared to spit in our food!!! I never went out to eat with them again!!!

James Baum
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what's wrong with Americans today. To start with is the entitlement. To think that a customer OWES you something is incredible. You are doing your job and being paid at least minimum wage which is far more then 2-3 dollars. When delivering pizza you are far less busy then your typical server at a restaurant. You job is essentially driving, and carrying the food to the door. An actual server is far more valuable to the company they work for. As for the fuel, most companies pay miles or fuel. This argument or write up, is just proof of laziness and entitlement out of this generation of America

Sanchi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, the average minimum wage for america is $11.80 an hour. Where you found it was 2 or 3 dollars is beyond me. Secondly, here is another example of jumping to conclusions. Since one, or two, or even one million people are entitled, there are 350+ million people in America. So even if 3.5 million people are entitled, it’s incorrect to assume all of America is entitled, considering that’s less than 1 percent of the population. Please stop assuming stuff about america in a million people. While I agree about your other points, using the word america is just racist and, with all due respect, ridiculous.

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Rebecca Bryson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Personally, I tip well. I used to be in food service industry.. when you know you.. The bill for that Corp for its meeting is a tax deduction.. shame on them for their ignorant 20.00 insulting tip

JP Pla
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a $20 tip. These delivery drivers feel so entitled. People in the service industry feel so entitled in general.

Josh McNair
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not everywhere in the US relies on tips for pat. Hello, east cost, there is more than just you. More States pay at least min wage no matter what. Tips are a bonus. Most delivery drivers get paid a wage plus per delivery. Your tip is again another bonus. I delivered spas and never got a tip. I made min wage. Pizza delivery doesn't share their tips with everyone like a server. Youre giving them a tip for driving your pizza to you. That's their job. They get paid for it already. The driver in question did hardly any extra work. $20 sufficient. Everywhere is hiring. There is no excuse to have a min wage job. Target is paying $18-$20/hr

Chris Shaffer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of my children worked in food service and the two main things I learned. They made a ton of money on tips. Way more than if the were paid 15 dollars an hour. Two, 99 percent of.people tip and tip appropriately. They rarely ever had anyone not tip them My daughter for example waited tables at a restaurant and typically had three to four tables an hour. On tips alone she would come with 300 dollars a night or more. She mad over 40,000 one year.

JP Pla
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a 20 dollar tip. She chose that job. I don't believe in tipping and don't understand it.

De Nilla
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery drivers DO NOT makea standard minimum wage. They are "tipped service workers" and therefore the minimum wage for them is as low as $2 in some states. Even Papa John's doesn't pay them more than $4/hour. It sucks that you don't want to pay the driver and the restaurant, but in America that is the way things are set up. So, either pay for the service or don't use it. People that find excuses to not pay are simply exploiting service workers and are entitled slave drivers. You're basically a low-key Karen too. This is in reply to "freaknomore" as they started that delivery drivers make a fair minimum wage.

Ray Arani
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery driver here. I've literally gotten to the end of working an eight hour shift where I was just unlucky and didn't get good tips, and realized that even with low tips on every job, I actually lost money after counting up my expenses for the day. Servers get percent tips because they're providing service. Food delivery drivers provide services as well, about the same amount of time and effort...the real difference is that we are literally paying money to bring our customers food. If I have to put time, energy, resources, and money into a job, I should at least make a profit. Some days I go home with less money than I left the house with, some days I barely break even, and some days I have great customers and make a decent wage. Because of my health circumstances I don't have a choice. This is the only job I can do.

Ray Arani
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On top of that, a McDs order is less effort than a fancy steak house order. At McDonald's I can walk in, they hand me the bag, and I walk out. At a steak house I go in, they tell me how long the wait is, and then I either wait 5-10 minutes inside, or 10-30 minutes in my car, idling so I don't die of freezing or overheating, depending on the season, then finally get the food, usually drive way further than I would for a McDonald's order because everyone has a McDs nearby but the fancy steak house isn't on every corner. So after a 25 minute drive, I pull up to fancy neighborhood where nobody puts visible numbers on the houses and when I finally figure out which house it goes to they have a note that says not to pull into the driveway. So I park on the street, then walk up a super long driveway and hope they remembered not to leave their giant 5000 dollar poorly trained dog outside, and then drop their food I'm the correct location, hike back to my car, to find out I made $3.50.

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Crystal Ellis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you want an interview from a soon to be ex-domino's driver, I'd be happy to deliver the scoop... it's truly insane. They expect me to not only drive but help in the kitchen and clean and even close, leaving me with maybe 6 hours of sleep per day. Mind you, told them my availability was 3-9 only bc I have small kids and my wage per hour was only 6/ hour and they EXPECTED me to do more than just my job for that piddly bit which is barely covering my gas. No, they don't help you at all with gas either... assistant managers get it even worse... I was promoted recently and have had enough

Ares Minks
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This story doesn't ring true at all. Pizza delivery drivers make an hourly wage based on normal wage standards. They aren't on the same pay scale as servers at restaurants. Nobody pays pizza delivery drivers an 18% tip. It's usually something like 3 to 5 dollars per order and never based on the value of the order. It doesn't make any sense at all that the Pizza Hut delivery driver who has been doing this work for a while would expect an 18% tip. I don't believe it went down this way ShaolinJohn.

Slynk Adink
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I tip because I don't want to be a d**k, but the hard and fast rules about paying a percentage are stupid to begin with. It doesn't take a server at a high end restaurant more effort to do their job than an Applebee's server, so why should I tip them more just because the food is more expensive? The same applies to pizza delivery. It's still one delivery. I get that a $900 order may require a few trips to the car and as such deserves more than your typical 2 pizza delivery, but still is it over a hundred dollars more effort? I don't think so.

Vladimíra Matejová
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

in my country the most probable scenario is she would get exactly2€ as to make the sum round and thats it. 20€ tip souds unreasonable to me. you should really do something with the wages servers and co. get. customers should not pay them. the employer should

Paige McBrearty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here is the issue I see, fast food and pizza delivery type jobs were not made to earn a living on these types of jobs are for high school students and that’s why they pay what they do and should only be minimum wage. They can’t get your order right 1/2 the time anyway! They don’t deserve more money. Now delivery does deserve tips based on their service hense the term ( to insure proper service i.e. TIPS) that’s what it stands for. Fast food chains are now asking for tips on top of asking for more money, for what??? You aren’t coming to my table and serving me and going back and forth like waitstaff who do deserve it. It’s out of hand and I refuse to tip a fast food worker period. This is just out of hand if you want more money get an education and stop asking for more to work a menial high school type job!

Nicole Krenzler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To insure: to compensate for loss ( car insurance compensates your for the money you spent on preparing your car after a crash). To ensure: to make sure something gets done (we checked through our hotel room to ensure we left nothing behind). That makes the acronym TEPS, not TIPS.

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Chuck Burton
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not here to debate whether servers are well compensated or not. A lot of it depends on where they are employed. I know servers that make $200 a day and tips, which is pretty generous compensation for the work they do. I also know people working in construction and other industries that make minimum wage. They work their a*s off all day long for 12 bucks an hour or less. They don't get tips. In either case, these hard-working people can't afford to buy a home or a car on the wages they receive, with their tips are included or not. That's the real problem. And it starts with the government spending more money than it takes in. A subject for a different discussion. As far as I'm concerned, expectation of an 18% tip is not a tip, it's a surcharge. If I dine out, and the server is attentive and friendly, I will leave a 15 or 20% tip. If they are not attentive and friendly, or are rude and indifferent, I don't leave a tip at all, or I'll leave a dollar. Tipping is and should be optional.

Adam L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to deliver for Pizza Hut, got paid regular minimum wage plus tips. Made the mistake of wanting to be a manager, more headaches and less pay then driving because of no tips. But, we all knew which houses never tipped or constantly had "issues" with their food.

Christian Simmons
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just playing devil's advocate but regardless of the negative posts(because miserable people love to be noticed) people earning tips are making way more than they would at a base wage doing menial work like taking an order. No one puts a gun to your head when you know full well that tips are extra when YOU decide to join a service industry. The entitlement that these cats feel are baffling. Many before you had good days and bad days. More good than bad. Fancier restaurants give one person the potential to make more money from one tip from one table than he/she would make in 3 weeks. The expectations these entitled brats have are unrealistic. You are not supposed to STAY in food service for life unless you found a niche market for yourself. Most on avg get out after 2-3 years. Strippers, Escorts, bartenders, and servers can make a helluva lot more from tips than they ever could from base wage. Grow up people!

Cari James
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can’t help but think about how Alot of corporate people especially males with a company credit card like to go to strip clubs and they will tip those dancers the big bucks. There are even some of those men that will be sugar daddies on the companies dime. So my point is is they don’t mind to tip big to a stripper but because the pizza delivery driver was in her uniform ,and let’s face it those uniforms aren’t sexy, and she didn’t go up there and strip after setting everything up for their lunch, why are they gonna worry about tipping her big. I think there is a lot of instances where people expecting tips is wrong. There are certain jobs to where it is expected. They can start paying the delivery drivers more per hour but then they’re gonna raise their prices of the product and then people are going to complain that they’re charging too much. Furniture and appliance delivery drivers make a higher hourly wage and still get tipped. People are gonna complain either which way

Brian G.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heck No! I'm gonna save my Tip money for the better service....the Stripper or Prostitute

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Mike Jones
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The dumb cvnt really expected a $168 tip for delivering pizzas? LOL

Adeline Bennett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of you apparently don't read with comprehension. HE said that's what a 20% would be. Nowhere in the story does he mention that's what she actually expected.

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Mr. C
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly I think 20 dollars is fair and here is why. The tip wouldn't be kicked back to the other staff for one at the restaurant. The second thought that occurs to me is that for some reason food servers seem to be in this magic place in the service industry that they deserve tips but the kid that pumps your gas and in my case a delivery driver for construction material that has to manually unload 1000's of pounds of shingles, or siding, or whatever doesn't get a cent for the effort. A light really needs to be shone on the owner's of the restaurants that are underpaying the staff and expect you the consumer to make up the difference. I would be happier paying more when going out to know that the people that work at the restaurant are getting paid properly. Majority of the time I just don't. When I was younger I worked as a cook and seen how the industry is and moved on to more gainful employment. Since then I try not to support places that expect me to pay their employees for them.

ladyroseeyes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I delivered for Papa John's in early 2007, federal minimum wage was $5.15, and that's what we got, plus a tiny mileage rate. Sure, gas was a lot less then, but the wear and tear that puts on your car is insane. Plus you have to worry about being attacked by dogs, or mugged for the $20-30 you have in your car. I absolutely relied on tips and worked another PT job that payed $6/hr and I lived with my parents.

Trickster Rickster
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol, to expect tips is so dumb. Tips are optional for excellent service, all she did was delivered a bunch of pizza. Yea that sounds like a 20$ tip to me. Chances are it wasn't their cc, so they had to do cash out of pocket, which f**k no I'm not losing more than 20$ just because my boss is stiff with his money

Scott Ellen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Recently I found out that in my state...tipped employees are only required to be paid $2.13 per hrs as a wage then the expectation is that top will supplement the rest. Poor kids I mean I personally will tip poorly or not tip if the service is crappy but now I know why it can get crappy.

Magnus Eklund
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US should start a revolution since they always go on about the American Revolution all proud as if their son fought in it. Make it a revolution on the companies, the big chains etc. Only pay 50%of the bill. Hand the rest to the service people and tell them it's their tip. I know a lot of a*****e employers would take that tip from them so those people you line up in the street have shot in the stomache. I think this would change people's minds real quick on tipping. REVOLT!

Valerie Mace
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think on a big order like that should do like restaurants, add the gratuity automatically

Rogue Agent
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to feel bad for fellow Americans getting screwed over. But this is what needs to happen before people get the balls to fix the place.

John doe
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It was a mixed bag for me when I used to do deliveries. Some times I would get big tips for small jobs at a rich persons home then nothing for big jobs or a lot at big jobs. But the average to poor people where always more pleasant to deal with than the rich folks. I guess it all depends on the people and the areas.

Jeff Curtis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bigger orders have more chance of errors (which usually require the driver to return without compensation). Bigger orders take longer to wait for, check, load and unload. These time drains make 20$ on a huge order equivalent to a mediocre 2$ tip for a regular order. They should have gotten around 50$ but no less than 30$. I'm also annoyed when I read the phrase "Just drove" as if driving isn't inherently dangerous and expensive. The insurance you have to carry is a premium costing double in most cases (if offered at all). Getting mugged/assaulted and in an accident are real threats. Drivers have low to no benefits or retirement so a day shift should make at least 15$ hourly after tips and 25$ after 5pm.

Yvette Schmidt
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Susan Ramak
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But on the other shoe I once went into a restaurant to pick up my order and I paid for it and the waitress ringing the order up gave me the silver for my change but pocketed the bill's I didn't know what to say I just stared at her for a minute then was so ticked off I walked out and called the owner of the restaurant I was like I tip most of the time but when I am picking up my order I don't think so also it would have been different if I had said keep the change but to just automatically keep it with out me saying it was ok was 😠

Terra Kochy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the people complaining that $168 is more than hourly wage, etc. please LET ME POINT OUT that tomorrow she might make a whole five dollars. When you AVERAGE IT OUT SHE IS NOT GETTING RICH.

Random Anon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uhh sorry to burst your bubble but it depends on the company. Some companies have bean counters watching these expenditures like a hawk. Yes it could be a corporate card but that doesn't mean the person issuing the payment can do whatever they want.

BCurran
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domino's is two blocks away. It's a 2 to 3 minute drive. I usually pick up pizza myself. If I do have it delivered, no matter if it's 1or 5 pizzas, $3 max. That's a dollar a minute. That's more than I make. Cue scene from Reservoir Dogs.

BCurran
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domino's is two blocks away. If I order one or five pizzas... $3 tip max. Cue the scene from Reservoir Dogs.

Peter Lee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Question, if the employer isnt paying the employee a decent wage, are the food prices cheaper?

ivan arakachi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I been working as a delivery driver for over 10 y, I always get paid minimum wage and I get to keep the tips, that job is not for everyone if you have a mindset or espuculate to get big tip or small tip based on the amount of the order, just today I delivered a $450 order for Baker Hughes corporation and they only tip $10.00 because the lady on charge said the company can't afford to tip more than that Lol I didn't really care much because I made other deliveries that compensate for the ones that don't, be very conscious about getting tipped, never expect or speculate based on a big house or rich people because you will get disappointed, I always make more money from regular people but I always dress nice and clean, also I talk to them and listen to them and make them feel like they're getting priority service, always be genuine.! I even told my costumers to tip less because I don't want them to think I'm greedy when they order 2 o 3 times a week and I know they usually tip very good

Channo Sagara
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Taking things for granted is the absolutely guaranteed key to disappointment. With that said, US need to stop scamming their customers with seemingly low prices, and just put the exact dam delivery fee on their price list.

EQXL
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"It's time to change tip culture, but in the meantime keep tipping". Yes that's the way to keep thingsbthe way they are. Stop tipping so people stop working because if tips.

paul williams
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I did pizza delivery for PH, and PPJs when I was starting out in life. I knew this was a stepping stone and didn't plan on doing it the rest of my life for sure. I definitely hoped to get tips no doubt, however it wasn't expected it's just nice to get a tip. Most the time it was like 2.00 to 5.00. It never mattered how much I delivered to am establishment. It wqs just minimal. To expect 18% is ridiculous to be honest that has to be a joke. I allways went above and beyond to my patrons as I hoped it would help a little with Mayne getting a tip. Again you don't have to tip for pizza delivery. It's just super nice. I myself now allways tip $5.00. If the delivery is great like a good kind delivery and condiments are given and possible plates I'll add a little more to the tip.

Barbara Gibson
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We do not make minimum wage when on the road only when inside. Sorry for the misinformation but we get a split wagr

ivan arakachi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a Baker Hughes company that orders every week just today I delivered a $450.00 order and they only tip $10.00 because the lady that is in charge of placing the order says the company spends a lot of money on food that they cannot afford to tip, I just laughed I said I hope the money you're saving to this company they compensate you one day because those big corporations when they don't need you they will fired you without hesitation, delivery drivers make minimum wage, I usually don't trip if a costumer doesn't tip because there's a lot of costumer that they tip well and it compensates for the one who doesn't tip I love my job and I been doing it for over 10 years I been able to save money buy a mobile home with a property and you can actually live out of that job if you're good and charismatic, be genuine and don't make yourself look like you're in a rush talk to people be nice make them feel like they're getting priority service, dress nice and clean..! You will see the dif

Lee Mathews
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered pizza in 1998 for little Caesars. I was a sub contractor, I got paid 2.50 fee to take a pizza next door, up to 5.00 fee approx 4 mile radius. While I still relied on tips I was paid well for the time, and didn't have to do dishes answer phones and when it was slow later in the evening I'd be a phone call away while snogging with various cougars at their homes. After moving and delivering for other companies on hourly wage, I was treated like dirt and ended up waiting tables since I felt that I was going to be doing side work anyways and the mileage and maintenance to my vehicle didn't pay off. Yes tipping culture is lame but you can't blame employers entirely it's written into tax code etc Can we all just agree that taxation is theft? No war, famine true economic prosperity and freedom and we all can support a family on a single income should we choose to. That's the collective noncompliance we should be rallying around not moot semantics of minimum wage vs inflation

Kae Temple
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked in a job with tip culture before but it's not like I wouldn't do my job without the tip. You still have to do the job and getting all entitled about how much your tip should be will just ruin your day because yes people should tip. Maybe not 160 dollars but they should but also you can't control if they do or dont or how much it is. It is their choice that's why it's a tip.

Shawn Jones
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tip is added into the total when they placed the order along with the delivery charge hes was lucky to get an additional twenty. Spoiled entitled a*****e. You want better money learn a freaking trade

Misty McCathern
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have delivered pizza before for 3 years. I got paid minimum wage, but had to use my own car, pay my own gas, and insurance. In Texas, if you use a personal vehicle for delivery, you have to have commercial or business insurance which is about $300 per month. That is way too much!! Only a very small percentage of that delivery fee goes to the driver. Most customers thought the whole thing went to us. Out of a $2.50 delivery fee, we only got $0.84 per delivery. Busiest nights were always weekends and Monday Night Football. We depended on those tips to help pay bills and gas and insurance.

Neir Lucan
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a reason rich people and corporations have money. They don't share, they don't help, and they don't care about anyone but themselves.

Alyssia Taylor
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why "iF yOu CaN'T aFfOrD tO TiP, yOu CaN'T aFfOrD tO eAT OuT," makes me so mad. I want to support local/small businesses, but I'm broke too. Most of us can't afford to buy stuff, AND make up for people's wages too. When are people actually going to *do* something about how they're paid instead of just accepting it and expecting to survive on tips? I hate companies for deflecting the bare minimum responsibility of paying their mf employees, but I rarely hear about tipped workers actually pushing for payment standards. I'm totally down to protest, sign petitions, call my local office and/or blast companies on twitter, but where's everybody else?

Jim Flim
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Come on though... I was a pizza delivery driver. First of all delivery drivers are now wait staff. They make more per hour and they don't have to see to the customer's happiness from beginning to end. They make one visit to the customer and they're done. No refilling drinks, no taking the dinners back and getting the diner a new order bc it's too salty or not hot enough. Yes delivery drivers should get tips but def not a percentage of the total price. A flat tip is warranted. 18% for delivering food? The most I ever got was $10 tip and that's bc they were half drunk.

Peta Hurley-Hill
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am Australian ,I don't understand America's tipping system at all. But then minimum wage here is $21.38 ph. We tip maybe at a restaurant ,if the service is super good but it might be like $10-$15 ,it's just a little "thank you". Expecting a customer to pay a $168 tip is crazy! Expecting a customer to basically pay your employees' wages is crazy. If you can't afford to pay your employees a living wage ,you probably can't afford to stay in business.

Martijn Mollet
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We pay multitudes more than 2.13/hr to our servers and bartenders AND our customers tip well. If we paid the equivalent of what they make in tips as salary, we would have to increase our menu prices by at least 25%. All these people that want to blame employers don't understand at all. Tips are written into tax code and employment laws in the USA. Don't blame ALL restaurant owners. Lobby your government if you hate it that much. If you don't like tips move to Europe. My employees would hate you all. They make way more money with tips.

Charles Williams
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Minimum 18% tip. When did they institute a minimum tip amount? I thought you tip how much you want to tip, starting at zero percent and going as high as you choose to. I've been tipped nothing for extremely work intensive deliveries and as much as $200 for a delivery that I thought was fairly simple. The one thing I've never expected was a tip of any amount or a minimum tip no matter how much extra I did for the customer.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To everyone saying that "tip culture" is BS or needs to end, maybe that's true but the solution to that is not hurting the underpaid employee even more. Two main points: 1) Services that staff employees who rely on tips (e.g. restaurants, food delivery, massage, etc.), are all LUXURIES! If you can't afford a tip, why are you having food delivered directly to your house or going to a restaurant? Before the last century, even the mightiest of kings and queens couldn't have food from 15 miles away delivered in 30 minutes! 2) If you're not tipping because you think it's the responsibility of the company to pay a liveable wage (which is certainly true), you're not a cool, "woke" person, you're an A$$hole!

Bitter Sweets
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One day I delivered a big order of 600.00+ order and they are a collage btw and they are tax exempt . I carried single bag that had approximately 6 in every bag and there was 7 bags no help. They gave me 5.00 using my own car.

virgin metal
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

law that maintains the hourly wage (can be as low as 2.75/hr I think?) when a certain amount of your income is tips is what really does it.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was paid $2.13 per hour when I worked on Ocean Drive in Miami Beach. In one year, I was able to afford a two-month backpacking trip in 14 European countries. That said, in the rare case when your tips don't add up to the state's minimum wage, the employer has to pay the difference. If that ever happens, it's time to find a different restaurant.

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virgin metal
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

acknowledging the fact that the law that demands tips is oroborous (?) in nature (if so much of your income is tips you can receive a specific hourly wage) would also be helpful to people understanding the issue at hand. great article call me a fan

Charlene L
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People need to tip period if your getting serviced and it’s a huge order tip appropriately. If you don’t want to tip why not go and get things yourself and be done with it… I’m not saying she needed 168 that’s crazy because this is her job so you can’t expect but anything over 50 would have been nice of them. A random stranger can gift her 50 but not the people she set up for that’s weird.

Paul Richards
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The tip should have been auto priced in very any order over $100

Ed Randolph
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rich people probably figure that they busted their butts off to get where they are and feel everyone else should do the same. They probably had those jobs in college and didn't get tipped either. Most also probably believe that tip paying jobs or minimum wage jobs are for high schoolers and college students and that if an adult is working one then they made some poor life decisions. The people in apartments are probably at the same level of wealth as the delivery driver and empathize with them.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's funny (not ha ha funny), but poor and lower class people always tip better. I worked at a fine French Seafood restaurant in Miami Beach in my 30s. The rich business men always looked at me like I was their worst nightmare. I probably made more money than most of them. 😆

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GadgetGirl
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to deliver pizza. It's a s**t job. The pressure to get there fast is unbelievable. A coworker wrecked two cars in one week trying to make time. (this was before GPS, so getting lost over new developments, construction and bad maps was common) Now, if I order pizza to my house, I tip $10-$15 depending. If the weather is bad, or it's some sort of celebratory evening (school, actual holiday, etc) I tip $15. I've had drivers call me to say thank you. I hate it. I hate that my child's math teacher was our usual delivery person for a few years. For those nonAmericans ... Delivery people are currently paid $2.13 an hour. Minimum wage is about $15. Delivery people are expected to make up the difference in tips. The employers tell them that if they don't make their pay in tips, they weren't nice enough, fast enough, professional enough. Customers are well aware that on a large order, a tip is part of the cost. Most places make it mandatory for this exact reason.

Jim Hynes
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Next time someone who doesnt tip, maybe their pizza drops on the floor once or twice. Or maybe take a really long time to deliver.

Y D
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In case you think it's just a Fight Club joke, if you stiffed any of my servers or generally acted like a c, I assure you your food took a trip past every b******e, nut sack and hoo in the kitchen, with a sprinkle of busser cleavage sweat for good measure. Yep, we did that to you while you obnoxiously ordered consecutive $24 Grey Goose martinis. And if you got worse as the evening progressed, you may not want to hear which sphincter cradled your shot glasses and dessert spoons. DO. NOT. MESS. With people in food service. This is the control we have and we use it. Learn some manners or enjoy your sea bass in baby spinach with a tangy yeast infection reduction. 👍🏼

Thelma Perry
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as a housekeeper when I was younger and I have to defend some of the richer clients. I found the ones born into money were kind, polite and generous. The ones who married into it of otherwise acquired it were the rudest people I ever worked for. It was like I want to let you know I'm better than you now.

Upright Hominid
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get tired of hearing, pay a living wage. I grew up dirt poor and worked crappy jobs that paid nothing as a kid. My solution was to get better educated and get better jobs over a period of years. It took a lot of work. I worked multiple crappy jobs to get better educated and then get better jobs. I repeated this process. I didn't sit around pissing and moaning about how underpaid I was. I didn't expect tips (yes I delivered pizza as one of those crappy jobs) or anyone else to supplement my income. I also didn't expect to make a career out of delivering pizza nor did I expect a huge wage because it's a simple job requiring no skill.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for your useless, condescending, crappy comment. You have added exactly nothing to the conversation. Your attitude is part of the problem.

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Rocky Mom
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From what I've read, I've thought up a conspiracy. The rich are playing the scam. They know amongst themselves to practically not tip or to never tip... and we will keep on paying.*sigh

Melissa M
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good on the guy to help the girl and shame on the jerks that didn’t appreciate her

Chip Gower
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pay a decent wage? That’s not the USA way. Keep the wage slaves in their place, and hire expensive lobbyists to keep those tax breaks coming!

Gary Thompson
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just a tip to food drivers that wonder why they don't get tips sometimes... You don't get your tips The next guy does. Because we have to tip before we get the food. So the tip is based on my experience from the previous time I ordered. If ur mad because you didn't get a tip blame the previous delivery driver. It's the only way we can do. Not our fault. That's how tipping works.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. That is not how tipping works. If you order food to be delivered directly to your door (a luxury service), you can add the tip beforehand or add it after the delivery. You can also change the tip if you're not satisfied with the service up to an hour after completion of the delivery. How do I know this? Because I've worked for UberEats, Door Dash and Post Mates. Punishing the delivery driver because of the previous one is not only unnecessary, it's a sign that you just don't care. Please walk to the grocery store, buy your food items and cook them yourself.

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Josie Gardiner
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Personally I can't understand this tipping culture. Pay your workers properly they work hard enough.. Many people from other countries don't understand this at all. We think if we leave a $20 tip for the waitress then that is enough because they are getting proper wages from their bosses. No tipping needs to end. It's just a way for businesses to rip off their customers and workers. We just don't get it.

Amber V
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Typical tips are 10% so even with that she would've made 93$ from that order. 15% used to be generous, but it's now becoming more the average due to inflation. Either way this woman received a TWO PERCENT tip for her service. Maybe since it was pizza delivery that's why some people are arguing back about it.... But they live off of tips too. And post for their own gas. They do make a little bit more than servers do, but tops are like a couple dollars a piece. Better if you're a woman btw, can confirm this. Had several different men be like "oh you're a woman? Let me get you more money!" Fine by me sir 😂 but either way, a 2% tip on an almost $1000 order is beyond stingy

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've worked both types of service and I can assure you that delivery drivers are paid way less. And as a man, I can also guarantee that men can "work" that tip, too. Women and gay men can be very generous tippers! 😆

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J L
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It seems obvious to most of us that everyone deserves to earn the living wage not guaruanteed by relying on the kindness of strangers but I don't see that changing any time in the near future. That being said, I have been known to grossly "overtip" to make up for customers before me who have either stiffed the server or badly undertipped. In addition to generous tips, I make sure my server knows that they are appreciated and that their hard work doesn't go unnoticed. I have always taught my children that everyone who works that hard deserves our respect and support.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you. If only everyone could me even just a little more like you, we'd live in a better world.

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Om
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait wait wait. First of all, I hate that tip culture thing, in the sense of employees having to depend on that instead of an actual decent salary. But another thing is, why if she works for Pizza Hut, she has to pay her own gas for the deliveries? Shouldn't that be paid by Pizza Hut? And yeah, of course the $20 tip seems ridiculous for all the effort, but again, why did she have to accommodate everything for them. She should've just left everything at the building's entrance and leave. Having to pay for the gas, having to do that extra work, having to depend on tips, the whole thing just sounds like the worst job she could've found in the world.

Becca Hauck
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not a hard job, it pays pretty well, and she gets minimum wage, mileage for her gas plus tips. I've delivered pizzas. Even large orders aren't hard at all. It's nothing close to working fast food and on a bad night you'll still do okay.

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Corporate stooge
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domino's tips $3 for you to pick up your own food no matter how much you order. So to me that seems to set the expectations for what they expect their drivers to receive per delivery, regardless of the size of the order.

Mahogany Eclipse
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Worked as a waitress once too and its pathetic that 'tip culture' is still being used overall. At least back then, I didn't have the government trying to shove their big, fat noses in to get their tax. And yes, if anyone made a big order and didn't leave a decent tip, they're an a*****e. Plain and simple. They know how this works so don't be freaking greedy about it. I don't care if customers 'arent obliged to tip'. That kind of mentality is apart of the problem, especially when these people KNOW that delivery drivers, etc. rely on tips to survive.

C Reed
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously……I wish everyone would stop calling it “tip culture”. It’s customary to tip. I don’t see why people just can’t admit that they’re cheap and be done with it. Instead; the conversation always shifts to service industry people being lazy, unskilled or stupid. I work downtown; where most of my customers are hotels, offices, apartments and court buildings. So I have to go through security; to the 26th floor and right to your office. It’s not necessarily that I mind, it’s that it seems the people that are telling me what I do and don’t deserve; are usurping a lot of my day and not tipping at all. The half hour wasted on them I could done probably 3 other tip deliveries. I treat all my customers nicely because I enjoy what I do. But to be honest I’m just fed up with the whole “service industry workers need to get a real job” debates. If you really believe that then phase the jobs out.

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ArbysKnight
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"it’s still an unsolved mystery many of us cannot wrap our heads around" It's unregulated capitalism and overwhelming greed.

Invisible Potato
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By tiping you feed the beast whoch caused the problem i sted of letting it starve

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wrong! You actually feed the beast by participating in the service. Not paying a tip ONLY hurts an underpaid employee and makes you part of the problem. If you want to starve the beast, do it. Don't pretend you're actually helping when you're just a cheap a$$hole.

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Wilf
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know it sounds harsh, but so long as people play along, nothing will change. The reality is the American service-industry business model that throws costs on to employees, and makes employees reliant on tips to make a living is naturally unsustainable. The only way you break that cycle is, as a society, to refuse to play along. This will finally make these jobs unviable. People will be forced to quit. Businesses will go under. Only then, will change happen.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is exactly the mentality that is making the problem worse. It's not that difficult to understand. If you don't tip the employees, the corporation is not affected. They will just find another worker to abuse. The right way yo do it is to not use the service. That's simple Economics 101. The truth though, is that, like most Americans, you've become accustomed to using luxury services every day, and you don't want to give them up. It sounds harsh, but instead of pretending like you're helping (You're definitely not), why don't you stay at home and cook your meals so the businesses that provide these services feel the impact. Using them is not "breaking the cycle!" No change will happen under your ill-advised plan.

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Al Christensen
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The corporate pizza party was probably a "bonus" for the employees who had been working unpaid overtime all year.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, that excuses their lousy tip? You know what they say about "Two wrongs", right?

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Nikki Sevven
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always tip delivery drivers 15%. For a large order, I'd automatically tip 20%. Given that she carried everything for them and set it up, she deserved 25%. (If you can't afford to tip properly, cook for yourself.)

Mary Rogers
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know why you were downvoted. Here is an upvote. I agree with you. Regardless of the fact that tipping culture may be not be the best system there is no reason to penalize the worker for it. Or downvote people who advocate for tipping the worker well.

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Space Comma
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't tell me you'll pay more for your food if it means you don't have to tip. You're not even hiding how cheap you are and you're not clever enough to notice.

Angel Jones
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't believe the driver only got $20 with a bill that high! I just reread the article. I thought they were trying to say that was a good tip. I get it now. Lousy!

Phil DiLernia
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop telling Americans how to live. Worry about your own country. That said, it seems to me that if restaurants make tables of 8 people or more automatically tip 18% then why doesn't the restaurant automatically add a delivery charge of 18% for orders over $100? Problem solved.

Stephen R Hipp
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you are provided a service that is a positive impact on the moment, ie,waitress, and you do not tip? It doesn't matter if it's 7.50 an hour or 75. An hour, you tip. Or do it yourself. Don't be a righteous piece of s**t and lazy,, tip.. or do it yourself

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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AlanandLeila Hoyt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't afford to tip 20%, either to the delivery driver if it's delivery or your waitress if you're at restaurant, you shouldn't order out or go out. My family's worked the equivalent of 2 min wage jobs for a long time and we always tip 20%. If we can't afford it then we don't go. Even if they made a decent wage,

Megan
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone complaining about tip culture... Yeah it sucks. And if you don't like it, don't order food. People rely on that money and you're a d*** if you don't tip and tip well.

Travis Pilcher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping has been around for a long time in the USA it used to be where the restaurant would hire cute girls to wait on customers and they'd earn tips for their pay but as time goes by things have changed and now a variety of people chose to work in the industry 10 20 years ago servers were banking money earning tips making 300 a night but now this newer generation is making thing difficult because how they view the world news and social media poisoning everyone's minds making everyone focus on people who have money and they look down on the ones who don't and their looking down on the servers thinking it's a poor person's job when actuality it was a banging job awhile back our media has brainwashed this generation badly they are lazy ignorant asses ordering ubereats to bring them McDonald's or a coffee go pick up your own stuff and I believe the ones who are arguing about not tipping are fake just someone who acts like they got it all and will spend 200 on a pair of shoes but won't tip

Tiffany Jasgarszewski
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am so tired of people using that excuse that you didn't know that servers don't make squat an hour. You live in the USA , yu know better Karen, you know and stop acting stupid. These people work their butts off and deserve to be treated way better. And if you can not afford to tip, then Karen stay home and cook.

Tiffany Jasgarszewski
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And that company that made her set up their catering table is BS . NEXT TIME just drop off the pizzas at the front door and bounce. That delivery driver did not have to go set up their little party. She wasn't paid to do that. She did that to be nice. And that Company is trash and should be put on blast. That lazy company employee that made the delivery driver load all of the food on the elevator and set up her party , she should be fired That's was technically her job. They were cheap enough not to pay for caterers and that was not that sweet delivery drivers job to do so. So Technically it was that douche bag lady from the company that needs to be fired for being lazy. They didn't ay for catering , they aid for a delivery. And yes she should have got a $200 tip for doing that lady's job. People need to wake up. And stop saying you don't know servers only get paid $2.13 an hour. These cheap a## people know this but don't care. Tired of that excuse!

Leonardo Kinach
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand the argument of "employers should pay your wage" when actually everything is paid by the costumer. When there is no tipping, the price of the product is increased to adjust for the higher wages. Just cough up the tip if you know the person rely on it. A double Whopper combo is almost 10 euro here in Portugal ffs

Mickey Bugh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivered 20+ pizza to the U of Arizona softball team when they came to Seattle. No tip. This s**t happens. Dont worry, kitchen people keep track of these things. If you do something like that, best you dont ever order from us again

Trixi Black
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You people are shite human beings. You think the people not tipping you are the jerks when it's the very people who hired you. Would you do something to their food or are you just a piece of s**t that thinks they can mess with the customer who isn't your employer? Yea, the customers that are keeping the business you work running are the ones that suck and deserve your disgusting animalistic behavior. Not the actual twat who hired you and paid you nothing. Good job. You're the lowest common denominator on Earth.

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Rick Warren
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Interesting how many are saying $168 is a lot for a tip but no one is saying $935 is a lot for one order (delivered by ONE person). How about you tip the person who delivered and set up almost $1000 worth of food for you 20% ...you can dip into the money you saved by being too damn cheap to hire a caterer.

BEST BOOK NETWORK
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but we are losing touch with American customs. At restaurants, in taxis and with respect to deliveries, you are supposed to tip. It exists as a practice to give an incentive for people to HUSTLE. I don't care about European customs. In America you're supposed to tip. The wage laws contemplate this. Let's stop being misers. If you prefer sky high food bills to give everyone that living wage then I think we'll see lots of service jobs disappear and businesses close up. It's the quality of the customers that is the problem. I paid for college with waitering and busboy tips. In my restaurant the 15% was automatically added because someone realized how callous many people were. Nevertheless, we hustled because we knew we had a really good deal. I think it is hard to maintain American customs with so many millions of immigrants flooding in. In other countries people tip poorly. Then they immigrate to America. They import their habits. Plus Americans who know better but who don't care.

Adeline Bennett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry but I'm sick of people whining about "tipping culture". It sucks, yes but in the U.S., this is what it is. When I don't feel like tipping, I don't eat out/order out. Simple.

Brian G.
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have the Greatest Tip!!!! For all residents in U.S on here criticizing the U.S. and I believe I am entitled to give this. As I served 10yrs Active Duty 82nd Airborne with 2 tours in Iraq and 3 in Afghanistan. To hear you demean our country makes me sick and to know much better than gave their lives beside me so you can live in what you are demeaning! You have the f*****g audacity to say how terrible it is! How terrible do you think it is for parents who lost children, spouses who lost their spouse,children who lost parents all so you can have life in U.S. Get The F**k Out!! $120 go online apply for citizenship elsewhere, you know places that you aren't even allowed to voice your opinion!! I will pay your citizenship fees and 1 way flight!! Go,live it up in these other great places. Perhaps somewhere outside Cameroon where they behead you because of your choice of religion and you abortion lovers would love how they take new mothers and cut off their breaststroke so they can't nurse the baby and place the baby in their mothers arms while they bleed out from the beast removal so they can hear the baby cry as it starves and they know it will die with them slowly and they get to listen to it as they die! Just to paint you a Moonbeam,rainbow,shitbag participation trophy loving asses a picture of life outside the U.S. But you now have NO EXCUSES-I'll foot the bill so nothing holding you back-go online like did here and fill out citizenship. See Ya F*****g Lame A*s Pukes!! Your Parents should have Aborted your Weak Crying Asses

Martin Bates
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Overprivilleged c**t could’ve got nothing, f*****g foreigners get off our stolen land

Christina Hoppe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have been a server pretty much my whole working life. I have made better money doing this than I have when I've taken salaried positions to work "normal" hours. There is nothing wrong with tip culture, which is such a stupid phrase. You're just a cheap a*s. If I made oh say $15 and hour and no tips, because the service industry isn't going to pay $30 hourly like you actually make with tips, I would not be able to live and you have no idea the s**t we put up with from people. Stop trying to tell us what a fair wage is because you're a cheap!

Irina Aboumadi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How do you think they got rich? By being stingy. Hate cheap people.

three norns
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"$168 more than a living wage/more than the job is worth" F. U. Where is the labour law dictating the maximum limit on how much a delivery person should earn? I notice no one mentioned a big point: she carried it up and set it up for them. Realistically, she could have (should have!) dumped it on the floor at the security desk. I tip - but i don't do percentage. I first round up to the next multiple of five then I add onto that depending on an arbitrary set of factors. Example: lunch the other day cost $81-something. I tipped to a total of $120. Factors: pretty much anything we wanted on the menu was not available because no supplies. A mixed drink the waitress recommended was gross because my lunch companion suggested a substitute for the missing berry syrup (the waitress didn't know it had run out literally ten minutes ago). The waitress's eyes were red from crying. The food we did get really was excellent.

Love Death
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

R first off if you worried about a tip then you might want to go get another job pay customers don't owe you tip customers don't owe you nothing you chose to pick a low wage dead end job that's your fault you have to pay for your car repairs your gas your insurance cuz company won't pay you decent sorry that's your fault that customer fault customer's don't know nothing

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please don't use a luxury service if you don't want to tip. And if you're going to make nasty comments trying to make yourself look better than other people at "Dead end jobs," you might want to take a writing class. You sound like an uneducated bigot!

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Karen Gladden
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

10% would have been fair. While some make not like tipping, until all employers raise wait staff's wages to a living wage, we need to tip them. Thru rely on those tips to pay their bills. If someone is against tipping, they shouldn't order/go to businesses that force their employees to rely on them.

Brian G.
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only if Ukraine could be here and hear all of these great worries on such an Important topic. They would then see our great striff as well and ask for No More aid from this evil U.S. until Pizza Delivery Gets Tipped

James Sure
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hahaha the entitlement is thick.... fu*k you get a real job. Your lack of skills is not my problem.

Liz Tonks
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You POS. You deserve every spitball anyone has ever put in your food. I'm sure they have.

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Sarah McCann
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She didn’t make the pizzas she delivered them I don’t think she deserves that kind of a tip taking something upstairs the person that made the pizzas deserves the whole tip not her, but the cook gets paid more per hour because they’re doing all the work. they should get away with tips all together as a servers living income but how else would they track all the cash. $20 is sufficient enough for her to drive and take those pizzas upstairs they tipped her appropriately she did not make them.

Sarah McCann
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well first of all she didn’t make the pizzas they deserve the tip not the delivery driver’s, or it should be split between the server and cook’s I think they should do away with servers only making 2.15 hr and incorporate likeFazoli‘s did inside the restaurant back in the 90s when I worked there, The servers got the same amount of money as everybody else in the store guests didn’t have to leave a tip they decided on the service if you got tipped. Not at every server deserves a tip not every server does a good job not every delivery driver does a good job they should do away with it.

Big Bee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

$20 is more than enough for what little work they did. They literally drove around in their car and walked some pizzas to a door. I'm willing to bet that the worker that actually did the labor of making the food in a hot kitchen, made way less than the one just driving around in an air conditioned car.

Joe D'Andrea
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For all those cheap shameless ones who comment the boss should pay them more it's not your problem..smfh if the boss has to pay it's employees more then I would expect the prices on the menu will go up to reflect that. You see where I'm going with this? Now if your entitled lazy self doesn't want to get in the car especially at $5 a gallon or especially cause your pretty friggin lazy..then yeah..you friggin tip. Or pay 2x as much for your garden salad and buffalo wings from now on so the restaurant owner can get you a delivery car with insurance and gas for the lazy people who hate tipping

Nick
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. They already charge an additional delivery fee that pays for all that. Also I'm not tipping 100% of my bill so why would I need to pay 2x for my food to pay their employee better. If 20% tip is all it takes then a 20% max price increase on the menu is all it takes. You need to retake basic math. I would be happy for a 20% increase for never having to tip.

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Love Death
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No maybe these people should go find a real job quit lying on people's tips and we don't get what you want you cry like a little baby this is dead end job for dead end people that has no want no future in life we don't owe you nothing we don't owe you tips we owe you nothing you make that choice

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are a terrible person. Congratulations! Were you born that way or did it take years of practice?

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Thomas Maresh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Best tippers: gay white men. No -tippers: black mothers after church using coupons.

John Hamilton
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you cant/dont want to tip accordingly, then do the work yourself! Lazy people!

Stephen Tharp
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Its usually mullenons(dark complexted) people who dont tip. I cant stand them. They expect great service and youre lucky if they pay at all.

ggus44
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same old BS tip culture. Hey America, it's time to learn something from some 3rd world countries. Just f*****g pay the employees the decent money they deserve so they don't rely on tips. Plus, this customer is not the a-hole just because they didn't tip $160!

Disgruntled Pelican
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We don't even let women have a say in what happens to their bodies. What makes you think we'll pay any employee a decent wage? The American dream has been reduced to being alive from one day to the next.

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Jef Bateman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered pizza in Texas, and most people didn't tip at all. I once delivered to a guy who was in the process of moving into an apartment straight out of New York. He gave me a $20 tip, and I said, "Man, I can break this for you... it's a big tip." He said that in New York, the pizza would come two hours after he ordered it and the drivers would pitch a fit if they didn't get a good tip. This was quite a while ago--I know the tipping culture is escalating everywhere, so it is probably a little different now. However, I imagine a delivery driver who expects 18% is going to be pretty disappointed every place except New York.

Diane Knight
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even when I go to pick-up my order, I leave a small tip (not 18% mind you) but a few bucks, because I'm soooo thankful that someone else cooked (ha ha). And in the summer, my kitchen didn't get hot either, :p, jest saying

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Nick
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed! The worst is it is spreading into everything else. Your hire someone for a job and are supposed to tip. For example if I take a fishing charter I am supposed to tip the guide 20%?! WTF. They aren't making minimum wage. The are the owner. They make the entire profit of what I paid for the trip. Why do I then need to tip? Just charge me what you want for a service. Same with certain deliveries. They aren't making minimum wage, why am I supposed to tip them? The only one I understand is servers because they are screwed with their base pay. I don't agree with it. Just pay a better wage and charge a little more for my food.

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AndyBloke
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery people expect tips proportion to the value of the item they deliver? If the Amazon driver delivers a package you paid $400 for, do you tip them $40? Do you tip the USPS person 5 cents for each bill they deliver?

Beans
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's different for food apps and its different when you have to unload, unpack, and set up the food. She shoulda left it there and gone tbh.

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Jus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is crazy. I live in Europe. I order my food and pay for the delivery online. I give no tips to the driver, it's his job, he did nothing special and the food is lukewarm anyway. In a restaurant I will give 10% if I'm very happy with the service. It's considered good manners, but optional. 18% tip for pizza?? Absolutely CRAZY. Pizza is fast food.

Jay Son
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

18% is actually considered on the low end nowadays. Many times, the suggested tips on a receipt (goes too show how it is expected) is often 18%, 20%, and 22%. Some restaurants even list a 25% tip suggestion on the receipt. Oh, and if you come with a party of 6 or more, expect to have the tip already included to the bill and still have a line available to give even more. It's disgusting, honestly.

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Bekaroo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reason average folks tip and pay better than richies is because average people have usually worked some of these crappy service and food industry jobs. We know they don't pay enough and the only way for these folks to make a living is through tips. And these jobs are HARD. One hour dealing with customers, especially in food service, is way more energy than an hour working at your desk in many cases. The fact that these types of jobs are the lowest paid is just ridiculous to me.

Leonardo Kinach
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing is that pay is based around the amount of people that can do the job, not how hard it is. You can get a gorilla to do hard work for you, but working at a desk requires education

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Id row
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"In the United States today, there’s an expectation to leave a generous tip regardless of the service." Regardless of service? No, there's not. Bad service means a bad tip. I was in the service industry for 9 years, the expectation of a generous tip for bad service is not a thing, unless you're delusional and entitled as hell.

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Bad service" is not always the fault of the one providing service. The "face" of the business has to rely on cooks, managers, traffic (in the case of delivery drivers) and several other variables that are often out of their control. Unless the service provider is unnecessarily rude or careless, I always leave a healthy tip to help make up thr difference of people like you.

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Awsomemom52
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping only $20 on a $938 order, is beyond stingy. Regardless of whether the delivery person relies on the tip, because the pay is so poor.

Becca Hauck
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm curious if you also feel that people shouldn't get fast food unless they tip the workers? Delivery drivers get minimum wage, mileage, and tips from most people. They work half as hard. Fast food workers get minimum wage no matter how much food is ordered and how hard they work.

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iseefractals
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'll preface this by saying i always, always always over tipped. Spend $25 on pizza delivery? $10-15 tip depending on whether i was broke or not. Cab drivers would get $10 tip on a $10 fare and waitstaff would almost always get at least $15 on a $30-35 bill (provided the service was good, of course) We tipped our movers $100 apiece. But this expectation that anyone deserves 15-25% of any order regardless of how large it is, is insane. There was a thread somewhere in which a guy ordered a $300 pull of some fancy scotch on his birthday, and everyone was dragging him because he only tipped the bartender $20 when they DESERVED to get $75. I'm not defending the a$$holes that gave this woman a $20 ($50 would have been appropriate) but expecting to get $100, let alone $170 for delivering an order of food is beyond entitled.

Crene
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

US tipping culture still and will probably continue to make zero sense to me. Though I agree with most of what u said but calling them a$$holes doesn't seem right to me. It's really ridiculous and disheartening to think that waitstaffs in the US have been forced to expect and sometimes demand tips because their means of livelihood majorly depends on them. I truly hope things get better for them

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LilliVB
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that the problem is the tipping culture, it's the owner that have to pay a living wage and all of that...That said, until the USA are going to change their laws about wages, there will be always bosses that don't pay a living wage in the food industry, and people working there unfortunately have to rely on the generosity of the tips that they get. So, keep trying to change what the real problem is, but keep on tipping too, because it's not the employees' fault that the tipping culture is still so strong and necessary in their field

Billie Maier
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Soo.... how much of her time did she spend delivering those pizzas? I'll bet it was less than an hour. She is already being paid an average of $15 an hour (google it) So its already at, or over, minimum wage. Why should she EXPECT a tip that is more than what a construction worker makes in an entire day? $20 is a GREAT tip for the amount of work that was done.

Becca Hauck
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's what I was thinking. I've delivered pizzas. It couldn't have taken her more than thirty minutes, including the drive. She wasn't setting up a catering order, she set up pizza boxes .. It's not that involved and even for a $980 order couldn't have taken more than 5 minutes. A bunch of Americans work their behinds off for $8 an hour, sometimes less. This chick made around $30 for this order, plus mileage, for about 30 minutes of work. And she's complaining?!

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Emma Q.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People like this are the worst. Yes tip culture vs paying the worker a good wage sucks but while we live in this not tipping at all or lower than at least 20% is disgusting. If you are against tipping then don't utilize services that require it don't punish the workers ( plus the employers aren't going to change if you still use the establishment)

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you! May you live a long, healthy life! My grandmother (also Emma) just turned 100 years young! That's a good sign! ❤

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Kel Darling
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do waiters get more money for brining me a $29 steak vs a $6 cup of soup? They visit me the same amount of times, do the same service yet the price of the food ordered dictates their tip. You didn't earn more money just because I bought a more expensive item. It's stupid.

Monica Brown
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like a way to send money to the former teacher now a delivery driver. I am a retired teacher and would like to help her so her kids and have a nice summer. I leave good tips because together we can make it through these tough times. I do not understand the lack of empathy and caring of others.

Priyanka Baniya
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a history why tips were encouraged. Tipping culture needs to change. Now please dont start ‘ if you cant tip them cook at home and eat’ then in that case ‘if you not happy with the tips then find a job where you dont rely on tips’.

Laura
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here's one for you - I live in Canada and they bumped up the minimum wage for servers - Yippee! So, do we still tip the same amount? at all? does everyone making minumun wage now to be tipped? Does the person I pay my gas to, or the person selling me stamps at the post office get tipped? When does it stop?

hhh cubed
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hi Laura, I am in Canada as well and those are all good points. I worked at a boutique convectionary company and made only minimum wage, yet I still tipped 20% almost every time but I drew the line at some point because otherwise I couldn't then afford the thing or service that I was paying for. Wait staff? Of course. Food delivery? Yes absolutely, especially in bad weather, and always expressed my gratitude. Here is my main gripe with tipping culture though, if the service is terrible, there is still the expectation of a tip. The guy delivering furniture. No and only because I know he's taking home more money than I am however I am always courteous though and offer water or a cold drink if it's a hot day. My point is, businesses need to be paying everyone a living wage. People like me, a minimum wage earner, shouldn't have to fill the gap.

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Brittany Rose
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping culture is toxic in both ends too. It’s awful that people aren’t given a livable wage without tipping, and needs change. On the flip side, I work two jobs, for seven days a week and I just make enough to cover my own expenses. While I don’t eat out often, sometimes I’ll take my Mom out for a birthday dinner or celebrate something with someone, or maybe I forget to pack my lunch, whatever the case, even though I don’t eat out often there is a pressure to leave a decent tip- even though I barely make enough to cover my own expenses. If we are at a really fancy sit down restaurant I will, or if the service is truly exceptional, but if I’m just grabbing a slice of pizza at the food court, I probably won’t. It’s unreasonable to put that expectation on the customers, and unfair to both the customer and the waiters. It shouldn’t be our responsibility when we aren’t the employer.

Seonag Udell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This shows why the rich stay rich. They are mainly heartless bastards, that only care about themselves.

Jay S.
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go on strike and let your employers give you a living wage. You wont be the first to do this. Stop complaining when people dont tip, its not mandatory and no ones here to pay for your bills. As hard as it may be, find another job that pays more. Plenty of folks dont become sanitation workers because they dont wanna deal with garbage. Dont wanna deal with low wages? Dont work for a restaurant and then act selfish and get mad people don't tip.

Frod
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people that choose to work in the service industry look at customers like they “own” them at least 20% of whatever they eat or order in a restaurant. This is the first wrong assumption, TIPS is a reward for good service and not an obligation. Unfortunately restaurants pass the burden of paying their waitresses onto their clients and this is also WRONG. Why in the world if my occasional server does a bad or mediocre work, do I need to tip her/him with 20%? No way! Waitresses should be paid a decent wage, but this is not the client obligation to take care for the lack or a decent wage. Now, we all know that many waitresses heard of some other making tons of money on tips, and quite frankly the kitchen people that fixed the meals never get credit for it and earn in general less money than the servers, even though kitchen people wages are higher than the servers. Servers need to get paid decent wages and expect tips based on service quality and not as an income supplement.

Crystal
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You say if they do a “bad” job, but how is it bad? Do you mean they didn’t add ketchup or take the pickle off your burger? We’re the fries cold? Did she/he seem stressed??? You know 90% of the time they are doing a”bad” job is due to the kitchen staff, but she/he gets to be the one to put on the smile and take the brunt of the angry customer, or get stiffed by them..

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Melissa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At the end of the day people get to spend THEIR money THEIR way. If they choose not to tip people that is their right. I have found tipping has become an expectation and on the whole I do not tip. The minimum wage here is $15/hr and that was when I stopped tipping. I once had a job where customers tipped and I never kept them. I gave it all to favourite charities and I was certainly not making $15/hr.....

Mary Rogers
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Melissa, people who rely on tips generally don't make minimum wage. Our laws exempt employers that use the tip system from that rule. That's the reason they need the tips.

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James G. Currie
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am in both camps here - I believe servers should be paid a wage where they can pay their bills and live at least decently, but at the same time, I believe that good service deserves a tip... The *least* that should have occurred here is the purchase be rounded to $1000

Private
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, #1 the standard tip is 15%. It is a percent, that means the tips increase as the cost of food increases, so the tip % doesn't need to go up with inflation or anything like that. I keep seeing people online (probably mostly servers) keep trying to tell people that the standard tip is 18% or 20%, it is NOT, it is 15%. #2 I find it hard to believe that a security guard laid out $50 of his/her own money to add to a tip for pizza they aren't even going to eat. It's not like security guards make good money. #3 Tipping is OPTIONAL. They are paid minimum wage or more after including tips. If the job doesn't pay enough, get a different job. We all want to make more money, but you can't just demand more money for an unskilled job. You also can't demand that people tip more just because you want more money. Give me a break. Delivery drivers, servers, etc all make at least minimum wage when you add hourly wage to tips, no matter what lies they try to tell you. There are federal laws in place to assure this. Stop lying!!!

Louis
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She wanted ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR DRIVING??? What an entitled little brat. Most people work real jobs and don't make $20 in a hour, let alone an unreported cash tip plus their normal income. Drivers are spoiled and tip-baiting will humble them. The writer of this should feel sad for supporting this clown show smh

Sarah Ries
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did the customer come out and get the food? She did a he'll of a lot more than drive? Can you imagine loading, unloading, reloading into the elevator, unloading and setting up $1000 worth of pizzas? And how bad your car would stink? The problem I have is an order of that size should have an automatic gratuity added in.

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Baby Bleu
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lmao! Why should i be OBLIGATED to pay you? I didn't hire u sir/ma'am. I mean didn't you know the job wasn't gonna pay u well enough BEFORE you applied? Did u say ok these ppl are hiring but they're only paying a dollar an hour. Oh well I'm still going to apply and hassle total strangers into paying me for a c**p job I APPLIED FOR 😂😂😂😂😂 I'm not tipping nothing unless I feel the need to, ridiculous!

David Groth
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her job was to make the delivery and then make another. She’s not a caterer- she didn’t have to set things up. She did extra work of her own accord then expected to be payed a bonus rather than getting back to work. Boohoo, she only was payed what she earned. Don’t like it, get a better job and stop whining.

brian west
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, minimum tipping wages are determined by each state. For example, Alaska and California don't recognize a "tipped wage", so servers are required to make the state minimum,, $10.14 and $14 respectively, just like everyone else. Since this was about Texas specifically, yes, minimum cash wage for tipped employees is $2.13, but employers are also required to provide a supplemented "tipped credit" to its employees at $5.12 an hour, bringing the hourly total to $7.25. That being said, the national average wage for severs across the nation as of June 28, 2022 is $9 an hour. Now, let's take the average wage for a skilled carpenter in california, being $25, packing lumber, sheets of plywood, in triple digit heat with little to no shade. I don't care if someone orders $500 worth of food. In what world do you live in if you think that person driving over a a stack of pizzas deserves the same pay as the man/woman breaking their back, let alone the same hourly wage as my oral surgeon?

David Peters
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but a $20 tip for 20 minutes of their time is $60 per hour. As an employer I am getting sick of people in the food industry expecting to get tipped at such a high rate making you pay them more than a doctor for their hourly rate.

Max M Power
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but a tip is NOT guaranteed, unless stated before ordering. TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service and many people forgot that. I use to work for tips and I was one of the big earners because I took care of my customers. If someone couldn't tip I never said anything about it. Often times I was still taken care of. When I order out or go to a restaurant the tip would depend on the service. I've eaten at places where I was ignored to the point I had to get my own drinks, she got nothing. I've been to places where the tip was almost as much as the meal because my server was very friendly. Most people now a days feel entitled and shouldn't have to hustle for what they get.

Harley Q
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is NOT my job to ensure anyone is making a living wage. I worked in hospitality for 29 years. Paid under $5/HR & needed tips to live. But now they get $16/HR to flip burgers & deliver pizza! No more 20% tip when you make $16/hour. Are you kidding me? Nobody tips me for being quick to pay tgeir bills or get their cash for them. IT'S MY JOB. If you don't like your job or don't get paid enough..... GET A NEW JOB

Id row
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It was ridiculous to expect a $168 tip for delivering pizzas. Anywhere between 50 and 75 would have been really good. She's not using 50x the gas in her car just because there's more wings and bread sticks. Also, delivery drivers make a regular wage, unlike wait staff. So, assuming it took her 2 hours, which I doubt, and got tipped $50, that's $25/hr + her wage, which brings it up to over $45/hr for delivering pizza (Pizza Hut pays their delivery drivers a national average of $16/hr). It's not reasonable to expect more than that for that job. In fact, that's a great hourly wage.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery drivers are paid by the delivery, not "a regular wage." It's piece work. If you're idly waiting for an order, you are not making a wage. UberEats pays as low as $2.50 for an order that might take 12 minutes, but is usually longer because you have to wait at the restaurant, there's a bad accident, you can't find the apartment building because it's dark and impossible to see building numbers, or the customer expects you to find parking in an urban area and take an elevator to the 17th floor. Trust me, it's not a great hourly wage. Add onto this the cost of gas and maintaining your car, and it's sometimes a loss. Good try, though.

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Emily Oxley
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you order a ten dollar pizza from 2 blocks away ,you tip eight dollars and the delivery person who is on her phone complains about the tip to who she is talking to.I will NEVER order delivery ever again .

Stephen LaPointe
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, what about the places where you go to pick up your food, and I have a Chinese restaurant I go to where only the son feels he deserves a tip for taking my cash and giving me my change. The others don't press that option on the interac machine, he always does. Gets upset if I don't tip and I will never tip for pick up. If the kitchen staff received some of it sure. But the brat gets 0.

Travis Pilcher
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know when you last checked a servers hourly pay but it's no longer $2.13 an hour it's up to 9 or 10 an hour now plus tips

Bobblahblah
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but the delivery driver in this story sounds like an entitled prick. You're a DELIVERY DRIVER NOT A WAITER/WAITRESS. So by this entitled delivery drivers logic I'm suppose to tip $180 on a $1000 amazon delivery? Get f***ed GFY. Delivery drivers don't deserve a tip over $20 you aren't doing anything besides bringing items from point A to point B you aren't ACTUALLY providing any service worth a larger tip

Keila Lambert
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just because it’s a company credit card, it does not mean you can spend whatever you want or add a huge tip on the bill. You need to report every penny spent on the company credit card and there is a team who reviews the receipts. Managers have to approve it and they would question you on what’s put on the credit card. This article is blaming the wrong people for a faulty system. I suggest the driver should get a better job that pays actual wages or lower her expectations.

Jeff King
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are we even sure that the delivery person was even telling the truth about the tip? It sounds the door guy got "worked" for his sympathetic nature. I am seeing it a lot lately with delivery people telling me their life's story for no reason other than to try to pull at my heart strings to open my wallet. I have to admit people are cheap sometimes but that's the breaks when you're a delivery person, you have to take the good and the bad. When someone tries to hustle me it shuts my wallet tighter.

Trixi Black
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This. If you tell me about your financial troubles I automatically assume you're trying to get something out of me and I stop the conversation right there. Offering up your financial situation to people you don't know screams I'm looking for sympathy. We all have problems. My first reaction isn't to tell someone it's hard making ends meet.

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Willie Fox
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We stopped doing delivery pizza they charge you 10 bucks for delivery then the driver wants 20%. I can save 20 bucks and just go get it myself .

Willie Fox
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of these pizza delivery places charge you an arm and a leg for extra for delivery charges . You pay the extra 10 bucks for delivery then they want you to pay the driver 20%. We stopped doing delivery because of all of the extra charges . I can save 20 dollars and just go pick it up myself .

Jennifer Germain
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate the tip culture but you get your food much cheaper than if they were paid more. I always tip 20% period. They could afford almost $1000 of food but tipped so little, shitty people

Rob Hynes
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a tipped employee for a long time and will tell you there's no way I can make as much with just a wage as I can with tips. I know I'm not coming home after only 4 hours work with close to 300 bucks sometimes if I got a wage. Yes it's a tradeoff for the leaner days but in the long run you aren't making 50 grand delivering on a set wage. Or wait staff. It's the idea that I can have a full time job and then go to work driving a couple hours a weekend and have a few hundred extra. If wait staff and delivery paid a normal wage then a whole lot less people would be interested in doing it part time. Or full time really

Eric Mitchell
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to work in the service industry here in the US. If we work at a classy, reputable restaurant, we don't want a "livable wage." If you are good at what you do, are personable, and smile even when you don't feel like it, you can make $100+ an hour on Friday and Saturday. A "livable wage" would be a pay cut.

Thomas Gaster
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a chef in a pub in a 4 star hotel and I don't get tips. I make less than $15 an hour.

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Laura Smith
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Glad you wrote this, got a dialogue going… and God rewards those who “pay it forward” from their hearts like you did that night! God always repays generosity from the heart, or as it is written, “God loves a cheerful giver”

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Although I don't believe your mythological god has anything to do with this, I do applaud your effort. This is the first comment that acknowledges what the security guard did for the woman. Thank you.

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Kathryn Baylis
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To all those saying the US needs to get rid of the tip culture and pay servers and delivery drivers a decent wage—-we agree!!! HOWEVER, until that day comes, when you’re in the states and eat food, whether in the restaurant or delivered, then GIVE THE SERVER/DELIVERY DRIVER A DECENT F*****G TIP!!! They don’t give two shits about your opinion on the subject, or how it’s done in your country. They live here, now, and have to pay their rent and bills here, now. So they NEED that tip money to get by. So, until you read in the news that everyone over here is being paid a decent wage and tips aren’t necessary to survive, just shut your mouth, open your wallet, fork over anywhere between 18% and 22%—-preferably in cash—-and let them move on to the next customer before their food gets cold. Just save your lectures, comments, and bitching about tips for someone who isn’t busy at work.

Vladimíra Matejová
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree I would tip if I happen to be in the US because I know the staff dont earn that much even though we dont have a tipping culture here. but definitely not 20% as the food is already overpriced compared to my country. also the wages are higher. the servers earnings may be equal to mine. so dont be angry on foreigners maybe they tip what they can afford. its not their fault. go on strike to get higher salaries for your ppl working in the food segment. all in all everyone needs to eat

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Denise Lewis
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i was in the hospital and ordered something through door dash. i gave the delivery person a 50% tip because i was grateful that this person brought me food and a drink. that i could get down with out wanting to puke. yes the hospital food was that bad and he brought it up to the 5th floor right to my door. i figured he was getting paid c**p and using his gas is another reason why i gave that tip. plus I'm not use to being able to get food delivered where i live there is none of that. this was around day nine of my stay there i was happy to have something that didn't taste like trash.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How much did you tip nursing staff,custodian that cleaned up said puke from previous meals?

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Alma Muminovic
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A 50$ tip would of been fair, especially since she set everything up. 168$ would of been nice but I wouldn’t have expected it for a delivery. I’ve always done well with tips working in the service industry. It would of been a pay cut if they took tips off the table and just did hourly wage. I know it’s not like that everywhere, you gotta find the right restaurant. But at the last spot I was working I made 32$+ an hr in total, but we also did have a 10.75$ hourly. Which made a big a*s difference. I will also add, the job was not easy, the hours were 10-12hr shifts sometimes 14. And you never stopped moving cause we were always packed. I averaged 8 miles a shift. And you had to take a in-debt crazy food knowledge test before they would let you serve. If you failed the first time you’d have to wait a week and take it and the questions changed. It was also really a lot of wine knowledge too and being able to talk about wine.

Thomas Maresh
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't mind giving a 25% food service tip. What I do mind are the sob stories about how hard life is. Um, my life is ten times harder than yours; I don't want to hear your sad life story.

Mokayokok
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They were wrong for that, however, I don't think I would have given a $187 tip to the driver either - that's A LOT of money to throw away. However, I also would have went to pickup the pizza myself.

April Adkisson
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh this is really getting out of hand- paying servers a half wage + tips is a racket to begin with- it’s not our job to pay the rest of your employees’ salaries…. But NOW on top of that we’re supposed to tip 18% for EVERY SERVICE just because these new cash register computers have the option pre programmed? NO- I will NOT pay you 18% on top of a regular hourly wage.

Ryan
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate tipping culture just as much as everyone else in here, BUT, Jesus Christ, they had the delivery person help lug all the s**t up the elevator all the way to the room?! If you're going to stiff, at least carry it up yourself.

Louis
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Think about this for a second. The driver literally just drove from one place to another and got $20 cash plus their normal income just for one drive. THEY ARE LUCKY TO GET THAT MUCH. Most people work full jobs and don't make $20 in an hour of work. This driver and the writer of this post are pathetic

Puchao S
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like she was just mad she didnt get to pocket $168 for doing essentially nothing 🤣 if she was planning on splitting that tip with the staff that ACTUALLY had to do the legwork of prepping ingredients, assembling, baking, and boxing $1000 worth of pizza (Based on the what the security guard said about her being tight on money, im gonna assume she wasnt) she would have only gotten maybe $30 anyway. Not trying to say her work isn't worth receiving a tip but it damn sure as hell shouldn't be nearly $200

Danny H
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, the overwhelming majority of people in the service industry LOVE "tip culture" and will readily tell you that they normally make way more money in tips than they would if paid an hourly, living wage. This story here is obviously not good and this poor woman should have been tipped much more, but this is the exception. Not the real. The fact that she expected a big tip let you know that normally she would get a big tip for such an order.

Dray Robinson
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never seen a bigger thread of so many cheapskates. If you can't afford to tip get off your lazy butt and go pick it up yourself or don't done in. Disgusting.

Trixi Black
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How do you create a business for that very situation and then tell people not to utilize it unless you tip? You know how stupid that sounds. The business you wanted to start on your own accord. So you took the time to think of a business model, get financing, start a company, pay your workers like c**p because you can, and then tell the customers you wanted to use to make a living that we should not utilize the business unless we're going to tip the employees the way they should have been paid from the jump? All of you are serious with this??

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Liz Tonks
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We are NOT getting anywhere by saying that employers should pay wait staff more. Yeah, no duh? Ya think? You keep saying that like all of a sudden employers are going hear you and have these magical epiphanies and change their pay scales. Employers are just part of the problem, taking advantage of the labor LAWS. The main part of the problem is with each and every rotten, closed minded, bastard conservative in the legislative branch. Every flippin' one of those arrogant s.o.b.s who are in the pocket of big businesses, keep the minimum wage low and servers' wages lower. They vote AGAINST raising the Federal minimum wage. conservative states don't even bother. That's why we have to focus and essentially fire them all this November. Will it fix everything automatically? No. We must start SOMEWHERE. There can be no change if you keep employing the ones who proudly loathe change!! Get your butt out and vote or just shut up & accept being the lazy, complacent part of the problem.

Michael Thomas
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just because some orders a more expensive meal why does the tip have to be based off of the amount? So if I order a meal from a restaurant that costs $100 and my neighbor orders one from the McDonalds next door that costs $10, why should I have to tip them $20 and my neighbor tips a $1.They did the same amount of work and drive the same distance. I think that is insane. Tips should be based on the amount of work done and not how much you spent on your food.

Oliver Johnson
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its kind of a general principle. You may think that taking a cup of soup to a table is the same as bringing a $125 Waygu filet mignon steak but what you dont get is the soup will very very rarely require additional work where as the steak can be overcooked, undercooked, or maybe the guest who ordered a $125 wagyu filet maybe wants to commit sacrilege and have 7 dipping sauces for a piece of meat that should never be touched by anything other than salt and pepper. All this chit takes precious time that you dont have on a busy shift. Good servers should abide tho and make sure the guest gets what they want if its reasnable and in a timely manner. Thats our job and I pride myself on having every guest I help have the best experience possible. Shoot I ran 4 blocks to Dunkin to buy decaf once because a group of regs asked for decaf but my boss was a big pos and didnt get any even tho he knew it was out. I told my cook checked on all guests then ran like Forrest.

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Grumpy Bear
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why should we tip? Get a second job. Get a better job. Things are expensive enough. A tip used to mean you went above and beyond. Now I'm expected to pre-tip in some cases regardless of service received. Wtf? Nobody's tipping me, why should I tip you?

Yaya Lantigua
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ah yeah, another driver and I delivered 45 pizzas to an event, set it up the way they wanted, went out of our way to freaking help them with everything else they asked and the tip was 2 dollar and some cents to split between us. I come from a country were tiping to do your job is not a thing but in this case our job was to drop the order off, not set it off like we were caterers. The total was like $700.

Kris Paul
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered Pizza for a small local pizza shop in Washington State. I never expected the tip to be a percentage of the order price. All I hoped for was a $3 to $5 tip per delivery. I did some massive orders to businesses and I was always happy with a $50 to $70 tip. On any large order the tip was split with everyone that cooked and helped with that order. The folks making 100 pizzas deserved the tip more than me!, All I did was make the delivery.

Rachel Branan
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a waitress in the late 90s and early 2000s I made more in tips than I did working I a dental office as an assistant after my son was born in 2001. I'm always torn about this

Michał Osiecki
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Welcome to the pathological tipping culture of the states. Dude 20$ is a nice tip, but since its the US you expected % of the order, or else.

Brandan Snyder-Nicholoff
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work at pizza Hut, and only a fool would assume any more than 20$ to deliver that order. 938$ isn't as crazy as you might think. It's two trips to the car. 20$ is a good tip for that. The poor goddamn cook isn't seeing any of that and he did all the real work.

Wang Zhuang
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I abhor the tipping culture in the United States. Hate it, hate it, hate it. But it exists. And the corporate staff who ordered all that pizza is well aware of it. Tipping $20 on nearly $1,000 worth of pizza is ridiculous. They should have done better for that driver.

Jim Flim
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry but I have to disagree. I was a pizza delivery driver and there's no way in the world you can compare delivery drivers to wait staff. First of all delivery drivers make a higher wage than wait staff. Second of all wait staff has to see to the customer's happiness from beginning to end. Delivery driver has to make one stop. I'm not saying they don't deserve a tip they definitely do. And 10 to $20 for a large order is very reasonable. The most I ever got was $10 and that's only because the customer was drunk when I delivered the pizza. But a percentage is crazy. That should be reserved for wait staff that actually try to please the customer. A flat tip is warranted for pizza delivery drivers.

Bill Cowles
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And this is a good reason why Corparate douchbags like Pizza Hut should have a mandatory gratuity On an order that large. It just makes sense for everyone. But then again as long as they get there's that's all they really care about

anarkzie
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Pizza Hut should have a mandatory gratuity On an order that large", No they should just pay their staff for doing their job.

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Cody Labarge
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She got f*****g twenty bucks, not like you're f*****g there all night waiting their table. My gosh, complaining about a 20 dollar tip. Lmao

Big Bee
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with this. She literally made $20 to just ride around in their air conditioned car and then finally had to get out for a minute to walk some pizzas to a door. $20 was more than enough for what little she did

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Maggie Mykle
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

50 years ago I was an 18yo mother & wife to an ill husband. Waitressing fed me & gave hours I needed. Into my section sat a group of 10 businessmen. Rather than stay in the office and use catering they came to us for full service during the lunch rush. I enjoyed my work and hustled extra fast that day to provide quality care to all my tables. We were a small cafe, two cooks, three waitresses, no busboys. The men left and as I cleaned the table I saw a single dollar by one plate and thought perhaps they all left something by their plates; they did not. 10 men in a lunch rush left a $1.00 tip which amounted to 10 cents per man. Even 50 years ago that was much of nothing. I learned that day of snobbery & the attitude of, "If you want more then do better" by those who don't struggle. Many eateries today quit feeding workers, a relied on meal for most in food service. Greedy companies are America's shameful weak backbone.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As the needs and wants of American CEOs has become greater and greater, companies have to cut expenses and perks for their "backbone." After all, the price of fuel on the CEOs 50-foot yacht must be outrageous! 😆

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Josie Gardiner
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Personally I don't understand this tipping culture. Pay your workers properly they work hard enough. Tipping needs to end. It is just a way for businesses to rip off their customers and workers. Many of us from overseas countries do not even understand tipping. We think leaving $20 for the waiter is enough because they are getting paid by their bosses.

Beth Kostrab
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed. Raise the pay of workers and change people the appropriate amount for the item. Pay them well and respect them & they will work hard for you.

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Rize Rize
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nah we don't do that here, in Asia. You just deliver it and don't expect any tips. If you got one, then thank the god 🙏, if you doesn't get one, it's okay cuz that's standard here. The point of hospitality Is that don't expect anything and be humble on everything.

MysticMerman
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2 years ago

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That's not how it works here, so it doesn't apply. Bill collectors don't understand that you weren't expecting anything and being humble. They just shut your phone service off.

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Rahul Pawa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can confirm, delivering to businesses sucks. I can't recall ever getting a good tip delivering to an office or business. Among the worst I still remember 10+ years later: (1)Delivered 2-3 dozen pizzas to the movie theater at the mall on Christmas day. Two trips up the elevator, navigating through crowds, walking all the way to their backroom. All for no tip from them (fortunately my manager knew I wasn't going to get tipped so she gave me a tip from the store.) (2) delivered a dozen pizzas to a church youth group after midnight (last order of the night), no tip. Delivering to the rich neighborhoods was feast or famine. The best tipper in our delivery area lived next door to a woman who never tipped.

Becca Hauck
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having delivered pizzas myself and also having worked in a restaurant for minimum wage, my tips were pretty much non-existent in the restaurant and I worked like a dog the entire time. Delivering pizzas, even large orders.... The work wasn't even comparable and I made minimum wage plus decent tips from regular folk.

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Isabella
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Loo, we do not care about shitty american customs. You all build your country this way and agree to that. When Icelanders did not liked their governm,ent - they did not work for 5 days straight. No one, not even one person worked. And government was changed. Oh, I know, but this is the creepy euroopean communism, LOL

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Americans will never fo that! We're all programmed to believe that everything will fall apart if we can't get a haircut and go to the mall! It's hopeless!

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Bob Wehadababyitsaboy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd like to open my response by questioning the comment that the delivery driver had to "give up her teaching job so she had a schedule that would allow her to take care of her children". Obviously, I don't have the particulars of the teaching job she had, but wouldnt a teaching job have the precise schedule needed to do exactly what she's claiming caused her to have to quit in the first place? Weekend off, summers off? Just like the children. Even if they were infants/toddlers, you'd be paying childcare or essentially putting that responsibility off on someone else if pro-bono. And if paying childcare, why wouldn't you just pay for the daycare during the teaching hours as you'd have to do so anyways working at Pizza Hut? I imagine the teaching job pays considerably better than Pizza Hut, and also would have insurance for her and the children in the package? I realize I'm off subject, but my brain picks up on things like this and it's hard to ignore.

Przemek Vonau
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in Poland and the food delivery guys just give you the order, turn around and head out. I'd have to chase them down the hall to tip. Nobody in food delivery expects it, at restaurants 5% is OK and 10% you're a god. When I'm in the US I'm always uncomfortable as I have no idea who to tip, how much and just hate the whole concept as it always seems that both me and the other person are unhappy. Just give me a fixed price that includes everything and I'll gladly pay it.

Harry Balls
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

so I can see that most of these ppl are Americans who have never traveled or lived in other countries where tipping is not the norm and let me tell you the customer service f8cking SUCKS. Period.. There is a tipping culture because it ensures you d8mn well offer excellent above and beyond customer service when out to eat or you don't get a tip and miss me with the sh8t boohoo its not a lot of money because tipping is so ingrained in US culture you can make EXCELLENT money as a waitress. My cousin waitressed at a pizza place in our very small town and would make BANK, she was putting money down on a condo at 19 so I don't really want to hear it and there is a huge difference between delivering snd waitressing. First off I would never tip a delivery person 18 frigging percent, she did set it up though and go above and beyond so in her case yeah sure maybe 15% or if in a high cost of living city then sure 18% but for a standard drive to the door, hand me my food no way 18%.

Id row
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've stopped ordering food because tipping expectations are so out of control. I worked in the service industry for a decade and understand tipping, but it's beyond entitled to expect a $168 tip for delivering pizzas. $50 would have been a generous tip. Even paying digitally now starts the tipping percentage at 20% with no option for a custom tip. I'll just make my own food or pick it up myself.

Phyllis Wright
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For those saying $168 was too much tip lets go over that...if the driver had taken 3 $330 orders in that same 60 to 90 minutes. Not had to wait and set up etc. and recieved 18% (~60) ×3 (~180). Would that be a ridiculous amount of tip? I think people are freaked out about 168$ but aren't even batting an eyelash at the nearly $1000 worth of pizza. Average pizza is between 10$ and 15$. So that was 65 to 90 items plus all the plates napkins and utensils. Tipping culture IS a scam but NOT by the servers/drivers. Anyone wonder what the deliver "fee" is for since it doesn't go to the employees? Yeah I worked for Domino's as a manager....that fee goes to defray LABOR costs to the point that they pay almost NOTHING for labor except managers. Btw managers are salary and often work 70 to 80 hours a week for a net hourly rate that is less than minimum wage. Does anyone wonder why a guy sitting at a desk gets what amounts to $60+ an hour WITH benefits and perks? Do they deserve more just because?

Emily Brazil
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered pizza in college. $20 is a really good tip... this whole b******t "driver gets 20 percent of the ticket" b******t is stupid. A bunch of entitled little bitches. Want to make $160 for a task? Learn a trade... you chose to deliver pizza. These kids need to get over themselves. 🙄

ScretSquirl
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I may get slammed for this, but those of us who have worked in a service industry, do know that paying a non-livable wage is BS... HOWEVER - until that changes, (which I do not see happening any year soon), tips do help. I haven't been a waiter or bartender in years, am retired from the military, and am now a government civilian - but I still feel for those who have to deal with the same "BS tip culture" I dealt with 20+ years ago. And when good service is given, I will always show my gratitude with a cash tip.

Glen Senecal
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the state of Virginia it’s required by law that employers make up the difference if you don’t make enough in tips to cover minimum wage.

Lacey Vaughn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Facts: If you have not earned minimum wage with your hourly pay + Tips at the end of the pay period your employer is required to make up the difference. You cannot earn less than the minimum wage. I was a waitress for many many years.

Reggie Mason
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So do servers in WA State still deserve 18%? They get paid about $15 an hour. Often prices are higher to compensate for the higher wages. Does that mean that you still pay more for the higher food costs?

Alice In_Hell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is awful that these folks get paid so little and have to rely on tips. Its the same in Canada however places now have mandatory tips that start at 18%! The problem with employers paying their staff more, is it will cost more to eat out. So the customer is paying either way. However with the rising costs, less people will eat out causing businesses to go under. Governments need to do something to make it so things are more equal with pay and people can still afford to eat out, employees get proper wages, and businesses dont go under.

April Adkisson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is such c**p- you do NOT *deserve* a tip! Especially when you’re already getting paid at least minimum wage. Servers earning half wage+ tips is bad enough (pay your employees don’t make us take up the slack!) but now we’re expected to tip 18% EVERY FEKKIN WHERE?!? No. Not buying into it.

Julia Bugden
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, I’m just curious because I myself have 1) worked in the service industry 2) live in Canada (meaning I made minimum wage at these jobs) and I still can’t fully grasp how anyone can justify 20$ on almost 1000$. To the people who are arguing that 20$ was enough, or that the additional 50$ Is way beyond too much, have any of you worked as a server in a restaurant or delivery driver? It is pain staking effort. You can almost compare it to the effort put in at home (cook,serve,clean) but then add the stress of having to cater to multiple people’s needs, and attitudes. If it happened here not only would that delivery driver be making minimum 13.70/Hr which is about 10.00 usd (it’ll be 15.00/Hr by 10/2023) plus gas fund reimbursement depending on the establishment of employment but, on a 1000 dollar bill the person would get at least 150.00$ tip, 100$ at the very very least.

Nitka Tsar
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Quick question: delivery drivers in the US use their own vehicles and pay for gas out of their own pocket?

Thomas Gaster
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes I was a delivery driver for a big pizza chain and paid for my own gas and vehicle maintenance, oil changes and everything, and my car insurance, and my insurance premiums skyrocketed when I told the insurance company I use my personal vehicle for work purposes daily. And I made like 70¢ less than minimum wage because i got tips. And I had to report my tips as income and pay taxes on it, though I'm sure I underestimated the amount when figuring taxes.

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Анна Сорокина
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

lol all the comments about "I learned something about rich people" Yah you dont get rich by throwing away your money, to impress strangers who deliver your pizza or comment on the internet lol 168 dollar tip, for pizza? get out of here. she is utterly insane to have expected anything close to that. $20 is a perfectly reasonable, if not great tip for doing most things -

Marnie
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People who are now "woke" about tipping are making the problem WORSE! Tipping is a part of sit-down restaurants and hair stylists. It hasn't been required for pretty much anything else. But now they want you to tip the gas station attendant, grocery store worker, flat 18% on pizza order (even though delivering 4x $100 order takes nearly twice as long as $400 order, so don't know why it would still be 18%). 18% is way too much. And because of that, the workers expect it and demand it, and some do insane things when they don't get what they think they deserve. It's insane.

steven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

please explain why the tip is based on the value of the order ? Do you get better service ? Is it delivered on the back of a winged horse if it is more expensive ? If there was no tipping and they were paid a livable wage would the employer pay them more for delivering and expensive item. You dumb yanks have fallen for this ripoff

john jakes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My experience is that it all balances out. A few people give me $20 tips, a few people give me nothing, and most people give me 4 or 5 dollars. Overall I make $55 hourly for a 7 hour shift and total tips will vary from $80 to $200. Plus I get 7% for a gas allowance. So overall I'm happy. I've had a couple $100 tips from people that just wanted to laugh at being generous. I'm not in a big city, so maybe it's different there. For me it's good money for easy work.

Baby chellz Idk
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lmao what are any one of you talking about the fact that he received a tip at all was more then fair tf do I have to pay you to bring almost $1000 order to me I paid for the service and was taxed on it all you had to do was bring it to me and now you complain about receiving let’s be real double pay for doing your job please cut this foolishness out

Kątem Oka
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not my responsibility to provide a living wage with my tip. 160$? Are you crazy? And who cares it's a "company card".

Veronica Devlin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just to be clear, IA, as a single mom with sole custody of my two boys, would be entirely unable to pay my rent if it weren’t for tipping culture. The restaurant where I work pays five dollars an hour for servers and on top of that I probably average another $30 per hour. I have been in the hospitality industry for 14 years. It comprises the majority of work experiences listed on my résumé. If a business can’t offer me $35 an hour then I can’t live and put a roof over my kids heads. I know, I’m blessed to be working at a place where the owners and management are respectable people. The dishwasher will make no less than $15 an hour starting. All managers/salaried employees get a retirement plan and 50,000 a year as well as PTO and good health insurance. If there were no tipping then I’d be starting over with a new résumé and I’m almost 32. The vast majority of people that complain about tipping Are not tipped employees. If you don’t like tipping you’re free to eat at home.

Nick Nicolaus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Expecting the same tip that a waiter would get is just stupid. $20 for a delivery is more than enough.

Doug Graham
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh, the times I've been stiffed out of tips, or undertipped, or offered excuses why the recipients wouldn't tip would exceed the character limits of this comment section.

Travis Oborne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work in the restaurant industry. If you want to pay the staff a living wage that $20 pizza is now going to cost you $30. Labor costs are huge. The only way to pay a "living wage"is to increase prices. Most restaurants are barely surviving as it is.

Faith M
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Butt hurt socialists raging again. What a shock. I use to waitress. Made big bucks. LOVE tips in lieu of $10/hr. Screw that. I would average $50 an hour.

Klara Lorinczi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have encountered a similar thing with rich people. My job involves going to peoples’ homes. The rich folks who live in the large homes are NEVER hospitable, never offer me water on a hot day - by hot I mean in the 90’s or 100’s - but the average income, average home owners always offer a cold drink, sometimes even invite me to stay for lunch. I’m not allowed to stay for meals but a cold drink is ok. The rich have no concept of what is hospitality but average income people are so much more considerate. I know it’s different than tipping but the mindset is very similar.

Jessica Edelbrock
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a kid, we lived in a nice middle-class suburb and the adjacent town was multimillion dollar estates. It was the 90's, so we aren't talking McMansions with over-inflated values. This neighborhood is popular with pro athletes and minor celebs. My old man always got stiffed delivering to those houses. You can afford $7mil house but not a little class?

James G. Currie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Drove for a pizza joint (international chain) in my teens... $2 a delivery, no salary. Some nights I could walk-out with less than gas money. Others, I could walk-out having earned 4-5x the hourly Minimum for the entire shift. Tips were generally just rounding up to the next $5, or I'd bring a $17 order, they'd hand me a $20 and tell me to keep it.

Craig Becker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree that a $20 tip on a $938 pizza order is wrong. But I’ll bring up something I didn’t see mentioned: when you use a company credit card, you’re often not certain how easily or fairly the company will reimburse you. I can easily imagine some beancounter on the phone later that week: “So the pizza party was $938 and you gave them a $168 tip!? I’m sorry, but our rules allow for only 5% tip on food delivery.” “But that’s only $46!” “I’m sorry, but those are the rules.” I’m not trying to justify the stingy tip; just saying that there are other factors that can come into play when you use a company credit card. I know it is sometimes portrayed that way, but in reality, putting something on the company tab doesn’t mean “the sky’s the limit!”

Vanessa Lee Troy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked in a ritzy steak and seafood place. LgvGroups of regulars who were big drinkers& loud showoffs. They told stupid jokes, long-winded boring stories & sang toasts. . Some of the old farts made misogynistic remarks, inappropriate cracks about how we or our bodies look. occasionally you had to dodge hands. Then they tip five bucks off a 200 plus tab! they hog tables for hours, performing all the while & you can’t turn it to make your tips. Everybody groaned when they came in, but kept smiling and laughing because they were regulars and made a lot of $ for the restaurant. They were so demanding the manager detailed one of us just so the staff could take care of the rest of the customers. It was infuriating to be that person, knowing your stellar svc won’t be rewarded. They believe, having colored my world with their presence, writing stupid s**t like “Don’t drink & drive!” in the tip line is cool. One night the mgr (not owner) so bad he slipped me $50 from his own pocket.

Serenasun321
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She should’ve gotten 15-20%! Why should it be any different from a sit down restaurant when she hauled it & set it up. The clients were asses! I always tip 20% to any delivery & servers. But others nope. I clean houses for a living & I usual only get a Xmas bonus. But not from everyone. Some give me gifts, but I try to tell them I’ll take cash or for them to donate to a charity as I don’t need more “stuff “. I don’t give a tip to my hairdresser, she makes way more than I do, so no! Not repairman or the like. They make a huge salary, way more than I do. And a fair wage? Well they are in some places & now we can barely go out to eat because it’s a trickle down theory. They pay more, so we pay more to eat. And it hasn’t helped employees because their rents & food went up too!

Sanchi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, so since several people are confused, here is the tipping culture’s logic (not saying I agree with it, not saying I don’t.) Say there are two deliverers. One is patient, kind, helps people carry the pizza, gets it set up, and helps. Another person is rude, impatient to get the money, etc (by the way, you legally can’t fire someone for being rude). Anyway, they both will get the same money. The exact same amount of money. So that’s the logic behind tipping. The helpful one gets more money than the other. Also, don’t get mad just because I said the logic for something you disagree with. I’m not saying I believe in tipping, but I’m not saying I don’t either.

Dianna Mccomb
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My problem with tips is say I'm at a restaurant and the check totals $100....20% tip is $20....I was there say 1hr if that...that server just made $20 an hour...and that's just my tip....they probably waited on 5 more tables during that hour...that's $100 an hour....I make $12 an hour....this does not make sense to me

Patricia Mincks
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

TIPS is an acronym that stands for "To Insure Proper Service". You should tip for a job well done not because it's expected. A tip is also called a "gratuity"; an Express of appreciation for service received. I don't appreciate bad service so why should I tip a bad server? As for the OP's suggestion that companies start adding a gratuity to the bill, again that encourages mediocrity & poor service. A restaurant where I live tried that for groups of 6 or more. At the time, there were 8 in my family so we would've been forced to tip, regardless of service quality, just based on the number of people at our table. As soon as the restaurant announced its intentions to engage in forced tipping, I notified the manager that as long as that policy remained in effect, we would not be eating there. It took about 3 years but the restaurant finally changed its policy.

Ruri Rotaru
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone ses to think ots just a simple thing to do. Just pay a wage and up your prices. A few years back a few restaurants tried that. All went out of business. People complained that their prices were to high. Stopped coming and the businesses went under. The employees out of work. Unless all the businesses do this at the same time or the government steps in it won't change. Oh and the whole tipping fiasco happened due to probation. When the restaurants and the like lost a s**t ton of revenue cause they couldn't sell their liquor. Which was pushed by church groups mom groups and mostly women at the time.

Lawrence Christopher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tip jobs are for the most part are entry level jobs, therefore they are not meant to support a family on, maybe thats why you find it so hard, these jobs are meant to introduce a new worker to the employment field or in some cases supplement an income, if you chose to work in these fields than you should already know you will not be able to afford that housing, utilities, food, new car payment and oh yes insurance on an entry level position - next if all these people who are whining on here could afford a franchise than they would become what they claim to hate, let us realize that $20 pizza that they deliver and give a crappy tip on would cost $40 and the only people who would be ordering that pizza are in fact the rich that people whine about - the worker should say they will not deliver to that area as it cost you more than you re-coup, unite together (no union, they represent themselves now a day and not the worker) - if I was any of you I would just get a great job not hard find

Robert Mcknight
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work for Pizza Hut as a delivery driver. Where I work the company charges a $5,99 delivery fee to the customer for each delivery regardless of whether it is a $20 dollar order or a $1000+ order. Out of that delivery fee myself as a driver only sees $.40 per mile out of that. The company does not help pay for our car insurance and we assume all of the risk for our deliveries and get a small piece of that delivery fee pie. In the corporate world (which is what Pizza Hut is), the president or CEO makes the most money and we as delivery drivers make the least, and we are the ones on the front lines dealing with angry and frustrated customers on each sift that we work. If I want this to change, I have to look for a different line of work, not expect them to pay me better wages. We in the service industry know what we sign up for when we get hired. I treat every delivery like a game of slots at a casino because that is basically what it is.

D'Quincy Robinson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe Service workers should go on strike for a agreed upon time frame to show what our luxurious world would look like without their services. I agree with tipping those that provide services that makes the lives of patrons pleasant and convenient. However, let's talk about those people and places expecting tips for counter services. If you're taking orders, filling orders, cashiering, supervising or managing... You should not expect a tip. You are paid under the federal and state guidelines. Let's tip those that work for tips fairly and when you're able show gratitude and praise for a job well done. We're all in this world together and we can do better!

John Kiernan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The purpose of tips is to reward good service. If there's no tipping, why shd the worker care that much about your being satisfied?

Nacona Martinez
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I figured out letting one crappy tip affect my mood affected the test of my tips. I look at the out come of my day and figured out it matters what I made at the end, not one table/ guest. Restaraunts paying by the hour decreases the service staff provide, because they know they're getting paid the same either way. We have a chain of restaraunts in the U.S. that is now near extinct since they went to a higher hourly pay. Prices on the menu went up, service went to s**t. Say what you will, customers do not want to pay higher prices to accommodate staff getting paid more. They do not care about inflation and very few care about the servers home life out well being outside of their task at hand.

Nacona Martinez
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have been in the service industry 28 years. I just had this discussion with one of my 18yr old servers tonight. We were discussing both sides of this. It's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't discussion. It's really all in how you play the game. I'm in a top position now and nolonger live in tips, but for 20+ years I did. Service industry is the only place I know that someone with no college degree, or has a college degree and still makes more in this field than their degree, high school drop outs, GED, felon can make the kind of money I see. Where can you work with an ankle monitor and still clear $500 a night? Servers, drivers, etc. that provide impeccable service make a damn good living that they would not make worth a flat rate hourly pay. Finding great servers that do not feel entitled is definitely harder to found now a days. They provide mediocre service, knowing their pay depends on it, and still expect a big tip.

Erik Eriksen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

doncha just LUVVVVV the little addendum at the top saying " 25% is the NEW 20%" years ago I asked a twit at the coffee shop why the increase from 15% to 20%, its anser was, well prices have gone up, so we need more...

Matt Pellerin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to do deliveries a lot when I was younger and you can easily do 3 an hour so a 20$ tip is pretty damn good imo. Even if you're only making 10+ an hour from the company now with that 1 tip you made 30$ that hour plus your 2 other deliveries. Even if those were both only 5$ each do we really think a delivery driver should be making 40 f*****g dollars an hour when most people barely make 20? Other people cook the food and you just drive it somewhere. It's crazy easy. I would make anywhere from 100-450 a night in a 4-8 hour shift. So get real people.

Jennifer Sturgeon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get your point, but wouldn't you get excited if you had even more money from bigger deliveries... If each person that was eating that $998 order, pitched in a dollar, it would've been more. She didn't have to help the contact person carry anything up, her job is to deliver to the location, not set it up nice... That was time she spent helping when she could've just went on to her next stop. I guarantee if others in the office would've known, they wouldn't let that happen... I worked in a casino and many didn't even know to tip, but I still only made 5.25 an hour and banked from tips.... At the same time, on Christmas or holidays, we'd get really good night's because people were generous and knew we were working on a holiday... Same with this situation... Maybe she shouldn't expect it but that tip was pathetic for that much food....

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Randy Mc
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Things must be changing a lot. I used to know a lot of people who worked in the service industry when I was younger. The majority of them made more money than the friends I had working "regular" jobs. Even though a few people here or there didn't tip well (or at all) overall, they did very well. This story and the comments are a reminder that most people forget these people get many tips per hour, per day. I'd bet most are making 30 to 50 dollars an hour or more, but still complain about that one lousy tip.

Gene Grey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get a real job that doesn't cause you to rely on tips then. You're literally not entitled to any sort of tip just because you work delivery or other areas of food service, that's why they make it an option to do so. And the size of your order doesn't HAVE to affect the tip either, that's why it's optional and generosity based.

Garrett Jeffords
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I believe in the good ol fashioned earn your tip method. This lady sounds like she didn what she needed to have earned the higher end of a tip of I were the one making those choices. Bottom line, in my opinion, should not be expected and you should def be going into any jobs fully knowing that tips aren't a guarantee and plan accordingly. Plain and simple. If you do decide to partake in any of these professions, then be fully prepared to perform above and beyond any expectations to get those tips. It's called a tip for a reason. Once you start getting into the 'tips should be automatically included' debates, then you start seeing the decline of the workers. Guarantee you the work ethic and will to want to be better will be in decline once you start automatically giving people money they don't have to earn.

Grid Takno
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Businesses need to pay their employees better. But also nobody talks about how the company that has tipped based employees is legally required to make up the pay difference if the employee doesn't make minimum wage between tips and tip based hourly wage. People still out here attacking employees and customers about tip gratuity. Attack the business or remind the staff they are legally protected just report your tips as proof, but that's the problem they don't want to claim all their tips at the end of the shift and businesses know that so ots an endless cycle

Tom Gardner
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

people in the restaurant business receive tips for 2 reasons. subsidize low wages and To Insurane Prompt Service. they also get minimum wage which is different in different state, as are taxes. in the 70's california had from $5to $8hr. today it is over $10. Waitresses make much more than bartenders in tips and has less responsibility. they take the order make the drinks take the money and wash the glasses, and stock the bar. rather than the server working the 4 hr. lunch or dinner shift, they typically work 8 hr shifts with no breaks and no meals. if tipping were abolished, prices would increase and the quality of service would decline.

Nicole Krenzler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To 'insure' means to compensate against loss (car insurance compensates you for the cost of fixing your car if you're involved in a collision) To 'ensure' means to make sure something gets done. Checking your hotel room to ensure you haven't forgotten anything. So that would make the acronym TEPS, not Tips.

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Mose1
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the company paid with a card, the tip was in the card payment. I pay and tip using cards just like everyone else, I always tell this to the delivery person, so they know I am not stiffing them. Plus, an order that large, especially for a company is going to have gratuity added anyway. So whoever gave her the $20 tip, it was a bonus for her job well done and hard work. She knew what she was doing, I feel bad for the security guard who gave her money, and I hope nobody opened a gofundme/moneyfornothing account for her. She wasn't a doordash driver, using her private car nor paying for gas. It was a pizza hut delivery van.

Brian G.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like this person!!! I'm sure she does get go fund her hustling a*s account! Compensate the Security Guard she hustled with sob story when she could have been doing something job related to make the elevator trip easier, or was she drowning out her mark (Security) when he let her know was calling someone down from upstairs

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Eric Christopher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a manager for a pizza store. If anyone deserves a tip on that order it's the employees at the store making the order. The delivery drivers would do dishes but never made any food and got to sit the rest of their shift. Just because she drove the order there doesn't constitute her receiving such a big tip.

Manueven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This whole article was the most dumbest thing I’ve read. Get over it. Get skills worth a bigger payday.

Akindeji Hill
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John Hackley
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked for a Fortune 50 corporation for decades. Most of our 80k employees had to travel at least occasionally and everyone had their own opinion as to how frugally or lavishly we should live while traveling on company business. Should we stay at a dump of a motel to save corporate funds? Or maybe the Ritz-Carlton this time because we've been working hard and are gonna get reimbursed by our employer? The company policy was spot on:. "Spend company money the same way you would spend your own money. If you normally eat steak and lobster every night and stay at 5-diamond hotels while traveling for personal reasons, go ahead and do that while traveling on company business." The security guard should be FIRED -- simply for saying the tip should have been much larger since it was corporate money. Yes, FIRED.

mike lee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't expect s**t from anyone but yourself. Instead of using all that energy crying about your $20 tip and writing a story about how about finally enrolling in some college classes or finishing that certification so you can get a job not involving pizza??

Mega Tron
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm torn on this one, having worked as a server and a pizza delivery guy. On the one hand, as a pizza delivery guy, I worked WAY harder, having to make the pizza, box it, and then drive it and deliver it... but I got paid regular minimum wage, and the company gave minimum trip pay (cause if you spent all your gas and never got a tip, you wouldn't be able to continue). I would normally get closer to 10% as a tip, which was great. As a server, while I did less, I was still working my a** off, but we weren't permitted to share tips with anyone since all other staff were paid well and couldn't report tips in the system, so that made it worth it as well. Maybe it was just the company I worked at. Sounds like servers need a union if they really want a change...

Susan Ramak
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So when was younger i worked for a grocery store as a bagger. We had a celebrity come in and I took his order out as I was wishing him a good one he hands me $150 dollars I told him Thank you but we're not allowed tips he walked back in the store and talked to my boss the money showed up on my next paycheck. At the time I was in college and the guy told my boss that he was impressed with my work and how friendly and polite I was. When I started working minimum wage was $3.85 and at the time I was getting $5.25 so I always pay it forward and tip as much as I can afford usually like $10 dollars or if I have extra what I can.

Loki’s Lil Butter Knife
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe if the United States actually paid their restaurant workers an actual living wage we wouldn’t have to argue about this.

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe. But, until that happens, please don't be part of the crowd that thinks the solution is to withhold a tip. Thank you.

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Hadrien T
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

French here, regardless the quality of service or amount of order, is she really expecting a 160$ « tip » for a single delivery??? It’s like 10hours of work fully paid, I make less in a whole day of work, how could it be normal? 20$ seems really nice for a job you’re already paid for

Elaine Lam
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yo! You guys are crazy for expecting more tips just because the total cost was more. Your job is still to deliver that damn pizza being 1 or 100 of them! This is the requirements and commitments you agreed to when you accepted this job! I'm so sick of these employees constantly making the customer out to be the bad person in all this! The problem is your employer and if you don't want to put the necessary effort and band together to have this tipping culture changed in the future, don't look for an easy solution and attack customers! I am not going to give 168$ because you had more boxes to carry or helped set it up! This is still part of your job description and you can't play the victim with the customer just because he didn't want to tip more! This is his decision, even if it's company money! You guys are freaking attacking the wrong people here!

Chris Naslund
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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Imagine a corporate worker making 30-40 dollars an hour being expected to pay the delivery driver 168 dollars for an hour of work. Also a corporate card isn't free permission to spend the companies money, The problem isn't the tip it's the employer paying the driver a wage that makes them sweat the tips.

Brandi Ramirez
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She could have left it in the lobby and made them come down and get it...damn she went above and beyond

Mary Truxton
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You shouldn't have to tip anything. I never do when I order online. When I'm in a restaurant like Red Lobster or Applebee's, sure I tip around 15 percent. But for delivery drivers, never. Their jobs should pay them enough.

Nova Coast
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just don't go anywhere that requires tipping anymore. It's really that easy and I save money anyway by not wasting it on dining out.

Brenda Bunnell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most working people aren't making a decent living wage neither. Why aren't companies in the food and delivery industries paying decent salaries to their deliveriy people? That reeks.

John Schizas
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait Shaolin John “worked as a waiter for a few years before entering the workforce”. Are you implying that waiters don’t work for a living or their so low on your radar you don’t consider them workers? Maybe the job is so easy they should pay to do it? Come on! Waiters/Waitresses are some of the hardest working people out there, and as you do blatantly point out, some of the most unappreciated workers. Quit dismissing them like this.

Nickolay Iltchev
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a European I was always annoyed by the expectations of delivery staff, waiters cab drivers to be heavily tipped....well there's a fixed price for all services or goods delivered.....Am I supposed to budget 20 % over my travel budget because your employers decided to transfer your monthly payment on the clients?! Definitely not! You tip when you feel like it, this is not an income tax....

Adrian Scarlett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Saw a woman tip the bus driver of the free service going between an airport terminal and car rentals once, think it was in Chicago. I thought that was ridiculous.

Kathy Beaty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I try to tip decently but I think the expectation of tips in the past few years is getting crazy. I’ve worked service and retail in my life. NEVER got any tips. Ever. I bent over backwards too! Why is it only food servers and food delivery that expect this? Yes minimum wage is crappy. That’s life. Lots of other people only get minimum and no tips. Should it change? Yes. But it probably won’t. I don’t order delivered food for this very reason. Someone will be pissed they didn’t get a 50% tip and spit on my food. Sorry, but some of the younger people out there have very unrealistic ideas about wages, how much they should do at a job and how much time they should be able to spend on their phones while working. Just saw an example yesterday. A hostess on her phone instead of taking care of customers. Yep. It’s real. Now you can blast me. IDC

Dirt is Dast.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can who are the Trumptards in these comments. And probably making minimum wage themselves.

Larry Reinert
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Isn't the tip for the service? What if it had been a jewelry delivery for a $10,000 watch; should the delivery driver gat a $2000 tip?

Rowboat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you go above and beyond to lug hundreds of pounds worth of pizza across to our site, into our meeting room, AND set it up nicely, you've earned the tip. Also, it's not my money and I can guarantee that I'm not being paid enough to care.

Yo Man
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An old girlfriend's 28 year old son delivered pizzas, he was only paid $1.00 for every pizza he delivered. He wore the brakes out on his car so I volunteered to show and teach him how to install new brakes on his car. We bought the brakes I told him to jack up the car, he didn't even know how to jack up his car. My relationship didn't last too long with him around.

Christy Charbeneau
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being a bartender/waitress most of my life I understand the importance of tipping but if I get bad service I show it with my tip I also show gratitude for good service if people in the waiting business are constantly being bad at it and getting paid they're going to do half-a*s jobs

ferocious freshwater fish
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They should tip because pizza was loaded and delivered? That's the job, right? Or does the only part the company pays start and end with the car rides?

Warden
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if it was some foreign manager who came over to the States for a 4 day visit, totally unaware of the local tiping culture? In Europe we tip when eating in restaurants, but not for food deliveries..in Europe both restaurant workers and delivery workers already make a liveable wage without tips

Warden
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if it was a foreign manager, coming over to the States for a 4 day visit, totally unaware of the local tiping culture, rule of thumb in Europe : you tip in restaurants, but not for deliveries

Thomas Gaster
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as a pizza delivery driver for Papa John's like 11 years ago and made slightly less than minimum wage. I think at the time it was $7.25 and I made $6.55. So more than a server at a restaurant but still not a living wage. I paid for my own gas and vehicle maintenance and the extra money my insurance company charged me for using my vehicle for work so I was very much dependent on tips, though people usually tipped well so I made pretty good money. Although I agree with all the people saying the wealthier they are, the worse they tip. I remember taking an order to one lady, and I had to walk all around this whole assisted living building to get to her, it was at least a couple minutes of walking. And when I brought her her food I forget the total but let's say it was $16.70. She gives me a $20 bill, and I give her $3 back, the store provides you with a bag with a few bucks in change but I didn't have it with me because quite frankly I'd literally never used it before, even the

Thomas Gaster
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stingiest customers would round up to the nearest dollar. She gave me a look of utter disgust and said "where is the rest of my change?" I gave her another dollar and left, because the few minutes it would take me to walk back to my car, get the change bag, and come back was not worth the 70 cents and I couldn't keep my next delivery waiting any longer than I already had. I think Pizza Hut drivers use their own vehicles too, that guy saying oh it was a Pizza Hut delivery van is nuts. I literally just put a magnetic Papa John's sign on my roof while I was working. Currently I'm a cook in a restaurant in a 4-star hotel and I make enough to get by if I work 50 hours a week. No, I do not get a portion of the tips, not even the gratuity that's automatically charged to large groups, which I think is like 22%. My girlfriend got a job at Subway recently, and was shocked to find out that Subway now automatically adds a gratuity of 15-25% to the bill whenever you pay with a credit card, I think

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Kristi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the delivery person that got screwed and just said thank you... you are a better human than me lol.. I do hope you at least flagged this place to warn other delivery personnel.. and to the losers who slam "tip culture" get off your lazy a*s and make your own damn food... if you can afford expensive meals out you can afford to tip accordingly... if not, then stop eating out.. I am guessing these A-holes who slam tipping have never worked in that climate and are clueless and never worked in the food service industry or have been blessed with rich parents and have mommy and or daddy to help them out...

Heta Luna
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my family and I went to a restaurant and ate real nice we tipped 2€. That's barely 3% of what the full meal cost. Why is that? Because the people don't f*****g need a 12€ tip to survive

CHRISTY SMITH
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mom picked out the most ridiculous name she could come up with to use for this story - dear god can you imagine someone actually having that name.

P.L. Packer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The state I live in pays more than most. In July of 2023 the min wage will go to $16.00 an hour up from $14.75. This is more than I make on SS and retirement combined. I tip only relative to the service I receive. I do tip waitstaff in restaurants and I tip housekeeping in hotels/motels. The teachers in my state are paid a living wage. Beginning teacher annual salary with bachelor's degree, $36,097 - $51,070, beginning teacher annual salary with a master's degree, $40,136 - $63,492. They work 9 months, most get PERS & medical insurance. Why would the driver in this story leave a secure job then gripe about "struggling"? My kids learned there were things we had to live without, things they had to choose between and activities they had to forego. But I kept my secure job with benefits. And my children didn't suffer, they learned how to budget and have a great work ethic.

Bill Palmer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem is even places that try to get RID OF TIPPING (Like Supercuts , Great cuts type place tried) people still tipped though there was a giant sign saying NO TIPPING fixed price! I rarely tipped takeout until the pandemic shut down wait staff . Now everyone wants 15-25 to hand me a bag. Sorry that is 5pct . So far McDonald's seems tip free...how long? I'm amazed how many people cry poor but pay 30-50pct premium for delivery... And delivery apps cost the restaurant 30 pct profit, so you're hurting them. Time to move to Italy

Nick M
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People who complain about tipping culture don't understand that, yes, it sucks, but it's the ONLY WAY drivers make money. I just got my yearly statement today. I made $15k working fulltime as a driver. Literally 45% of that is tips. When you don't tip a driver, you're not sticking it to the man or the company, you're literally screwing the little guy. But the bigger problem don't realize is that restaurants aren't some money printing machine. It costs money to operate, some of them are then paying north of 30% just to exist in the network. So how do they account for tips? Well, Uber or Foodora or Door Dash aren't going to pony up. So it's on the restaurants. Wanna know what happens then? Menu prices go up. So they'll go up, and instead of paying a tip, you're going to be paying even more money, and the driver is still not going to get paid. People who say tipping culture is b******t have never had to rely on tips for a living. Simple as.

Trebor Erebut
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would prefer to pay the full price upfront for the full service including delivery and not worry about tipping. If the service is bad, no repeat business.

Matthew Cummins
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping culture will never go away because the amount of income servers and bartenders make would be impossible to match unless prices are multiplied to an insane degree. Delivery drivers are a different breed as well because they don’t tip anyone out.

Sarah Ries
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always paid delivery drivers more than 20%. If I'm getting delivery it's because I'm too lazy to go out, so I appreciate it that much more. If you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't be eating out!

Crystal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to add that I worked in resort/upscale hotel bars for over 8 years. I now at night have started doing deliveries from stores like Target or Walgreens etc. I have seen the best of the best tippers and the lowest of the low. There is no way to determine by wealth what kind of tipper they will be. What I HAVE learned to watch for more are “verbal” tippers. The more someone gushes over you or thanks you or praises you, usually means a fairly small tip. Also if anything is even slightly wrong, and they jump on that, giving them the excuse to not tip. And other times their just simply is no answer, it’s just what they “believe” to be true. That we get paid plenty enough hourly, we don’t need the extra tip. Or maybe they don’t realize a percentage of our tip (whether we’re tipped or not!), gets paid to other employees. Or maybe they don’t understand the IRS sees us as a tipped employee and therefore taxes us on tips, wether we make them or not.. maybe if they realized all that..

BlueEyesWhiteDragon
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder how much Amazon drivers would make if they were supposed to be tipped 15-20% of the cost of the goods they deliver. Anyway. I think now that everything is electronic, totals shouldn't be visible to servers and delivery personel, only tip amount. Most of these stories feature people angry in relation to the total cost of the bill, not the effort or time. Expectations are everything.

Kimi Robinson
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey....wouldn't it make sense to automatically add the gratuity of at least 18 percent...(I say at least 20 percent in California) to ALL LARGE ORDERS????!!!!?????

Kevin Cappo
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if it took an hour to deliver and set up twenty dollars an hour is not bad pay. $160 an hour is pretty steep. at a restaurant i tip based on time spent more than cost percent. why should a $30 meal get twice the tip as a $15 meal at the same table?

Venetia The Poet
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a friend who says that customers are part of the problem as long as we Americans keep tipping. These restaurants rely on customers tips and as long as we keep tipping service workers will never earn a living wage. It made me think about why we keep tipping.

Carol Dahlin
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping is a relic of slavery. After the Civil War, Southerners did everything possible to keep black people in servitude. They legislated the idea of "tipping" exactly in order to avoid paying a living wage to former slaves. So much of the unfairness in our country is a legacy of slavery. Let's start righting the wrongs of our past. Let's establish a basic living wage for everyone in the country.

William Christopher
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having made those huge orders before, I've been salty to see a delivery driver get a 100 dollar tip that I saw nothing of despite being the one to take and make the order by myself. Delivery drivers get it easy.

Peeka_Mimi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always tip 17% minimum even if it's c**p service. I've only rescinded a tip twice in my life and that was because they were flat out rude or incompetent. Like someone got my Japanese food the other week. She even took a picture of the order in front of some apartment. I own a house. She got her tip rescinded and my order was refunded.

kayeff
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe they were just bad at math and they thought they were tipping 20% when it was really 2%?

kayeff
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe they're just really bad at math and they thought they were tipping 20% when it was really only 2%?

Naomie Moore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was in the hospitality industry when I was young. As many have said before, the "comfortable" clients tipped very little if at all. The average person tipped well or over tipped because they have done it themselves and know what it's like. I have always over tipped and even gone so far as to give money to another server because I know they got stiffed by someone. In my state they tax tips, whether you actually get tipped "x" amount or not. So technically one can be in the hole. It's just insane.

Matthew Raiche
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hold on, here, $168? Even $80 to $100 is ridiculous. How long do you suppose it took the driver to make this delivery? Let's say it took her an hour, which I'm sure it didn't. An $80 tip would be $80 an hour for a job whose only required skills are driving and carrying food. That's a lot more than most skilled workers and university graduates make. Why do delivery drivers and wait staff seem to think that they deserve to make so much money for a job that requires no special skills? I know they work hard. So do entry-level construction workers and supermarket deli workers, but they don't get paid much. What makes servers think that they are so special that they deserve to make more than other unskilled workers and even a lot of skilled workers?

Deconus Kad'ral
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

$20 is a pretty good tip for delivering pizza. I mean, this is bottom of the barrel, unchallenging, anyone can do it, work. But she expects $160 for walking some boxes to a door? Thats more than most people make in a day, doing ACTUAL WORK.

Deirdre E Siegel
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In New Zealand the minimum wage is $22.70 an hour and living wage of $23.65 an hour, as such the majority of our population do not tip :-)

Mike Beck
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really don't get the connection here. I don't, and never have, tipped based on an employee's pay. Why so many people think I should stop tipping if people get paid more is unreal. I tip *heavy* because I've been there and will continue to do so even if people get paid a so-called livable wage. Also, d@mn the number of people who turned an article on rich people being cheap into a fight for their "right" to murder children for no more reason than convenience.

Joseph Marquardt
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WE as tippers are enablers! The workers aren't going to do anything in regards to the employer as long as we can be conned into leaving inflated tips. I have read that the new norm is 18% to 20%. Why? Just as the food price has gone up, the tip went up accordingly. Percentage points need not be added to keep up. Just pointing out how we are being manipulated.

Tamilam
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am all for getting rid of tip culture, but to only give this driver a $20 tip after all the work she did is crazy. At least have some forethought in bringing a cart with you down the elevator knowing how much you ordered. If you weren't going to give her more than $20 you should have said "I'll take it from here" while in the lobby instead of making her lug it up the elevator and setting it up for you. It's not her job to set up the delivery, only to deliver it.

Jeffrey Gregory
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a partial quadraplegic due to spinal injury. Worked as a delivery driver for several pizza places. Often my deliveries to the best neighborhoods would be the worst tippers and the people that really couldn't afford to tip, gave me their last penny. Of course once in awhile I'd take an order and a struggling family was short on the bill so I'd dig into my tips to cover it.

Dawn Harris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What most people don't understand is, if you pay a "living wage" to servers and delivery drivers, you probably couldn't afford to eat out or get delivery

Rasheeda Pennybaker
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

See I'm sorry but I can't even imagine how she felt. My hates me signing for her deliveries because I always write in a tip. She tells me don't give them no tip they already got a $2 dollar delivery fee from me. I tell her well next time get in your car and drive and get your own food. You won't have to worry about delivering fee or tip. If i have the money myself I will just tip them out my pockets. I order from only 3 pizza places and trust me when my number shows up they get real excited. They know i always tip their drivers nicely. My food is always on time and always hot and delicious.

Vladimir Leninger
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok she was doing her job, got like 30$ for half hour work. And she did a lousy job - entertained security guy while food was getting cold. The customer had to come down and help carring her delivery. First time I hear that tip has to be percentage if order is big. What do you do when you buy a car? Give a 2000$ tip on top of car price? What if she delivered a wedding ring she should get 10 000$. Also you can put as big amout of tip on company card as you like? Isn't it tax evasion? Please help poor European (who serviced many Americans without a tip, and once when mentioning that to couple from Las Vegas got reported to company and terrible review) understand.

JP Purves
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Going to say this for those in the back of the room. It is practically slavery to pay a server $2 an hour and expect them to make their living on tips. Withholding a tip because you want the boss/owner to pay the server/delivery person a barely living wage isn't going to change anything. State governments should make at least the minimum wage mandatory for all employees.

talliloo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i worked at a military club/dining facility. i would work the dining room until it closed & then go into the club area and work there. our wages at the time was about $4.25/hr plus tips. then a rule came down that we were to report our tips & be taxed on them. which in reality is actually double dipping each dollar as that dollar was taxed when it was paid to patron, taxed when they paid for their meal/drink, then taxed again when we claimed. additionally, the bosses figured out that we should be making a minimum of $10.00 for every hour we worked. normally, we made 2 to 3 times, sometimes more each night. we started complying but then when we saw how it affected our pay we collectively figured out how much the bosses expected us to report and stuck to that on a regular basis. the bosses figured out we were doing this but since we kept our tips in our aprons and not in a tip container they couldn't physically examine us.

Steven McNeill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, let's break this down somewhat... Pizza Inn drivers in Dallas Texas earn $16.06 an hour, on average. (Google it.) Let's say these Pizzas onlycost $10 each.., The order would've been for 80 of them cause.. taxes.. you know? A person can fairly easily carry 10 pizzas at a time, so 8 trips to get them all there ... except in this case the contact person and security helped load everything on the elevator for one trip. Take them inside. Unpack them. This whole thing takes how long again?? Not very, as there's another large order waiting for the driver after this one!! So $20 tip for ~30 minutes work, for a job with minimal physical requirements and an existing pay rate over twice the minimum wage!! And yet, some folks think $50 or $100 or... what was it? $168? This driver *deserves* that type of compensation?? $5.00 A MINUTE for a tip?!! You guys are all crazy!

Susan Petrizzo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the person who asked about furniture and appliance delivery drivers getting tipped: they do make a better salary, but they also get tipped (not by everyone, but frequently). Source: my husband, who delivered appliances for 40 years.

Bryan Kyle
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let's juat not tip and force employers to make up the difference. They are obligated by law to make up the difference.

Corwin 02
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am sorry , your job is to deliver an item , if you would get paid a decent wage you would receive 15 bucks an hour , I would probably give you $20 for your service but that is about it. Culture what it is in the US the driver probably gets gas money plus a dollar or something like that so I'd probably give you $30 but I sure as hell am not going to give you 18% of the price of the order.

John Richard Albers Grant Esquire
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tip culture blows. 15 percent used to be the norm. Now more is expected, on top of the increased prices for the food itself. So, I pay $50 instead of $40 for the meal compared to just a few years ago, and then have to provide 20 percent to pay the waiting staff because the prices of food that have been ostensibly jacked up because of "inflation," which we all know is systemic greed, aren't enough for the restaurant to actually pay their frigging employees. I'll happily pay $55 for the meal if the extra $15 is going to pay the workers. Instead, the best I can do to not shaft people while living on a shoestring budget is to tip in cash. It's not something servers need to declare on their tax returns, and they don't have to share it with the rest of the restaurant (and that includes the damned management who are already making more than anyone else there.) Tip culture needs to die. Capitalism needs to die. And that means regulating prices, profit margins, and employee wages.

Unpopular opinions
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This person thinks they deserve over $100 for walking a few boxes upstairs?! What a pathetic piece of s**t.

Carol Emory
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also keep in mind that some of the Corporate Cards have spending limits. I know for our company, when we are at company conferences, we are limited to $60 a day including tips. Most of us that go to restaurants tip in cash out of our own pocket. But still. A 10% tip in the above case means she would have gotten nearly $100.00.

Paige Purcell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I go to the same restaurant every Sunday due to finding a FABULOUS server that really takes care of us. Since they have to share the tip with everyone else, we put that on the tab then give at least 20 dollars to the server, more on holidays

ReginaC
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked for LaZBoy in Chicago. Our store used to host the quarterly meetings for all stores in Illinois, Wisconsin and Indiana. It was an all day event with breakfast and lunch brought in by local restaurants ( ususally Potbelly) . The district manager had the corporate card to pay for this and put the equivalent of a 2 percent tip on the card!!! This is La Z Boy, one of the largest earning corporations in the USA and they basically paid nothing for the poor people who lugged all this heavy food and set it up on 2 tables and gave then effectively NOTHING for the effort. Once I was lucky enough to be able to pay and write the tip, I gave 20% and when the DM ssw it I told him it should have been more and just gsve him s**t for what he had done before. No shame for these wealthy corporations way to go keeping the little people down and poor!

Unpopular opinions
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Potbelly restaurants are valued between $200 & $400 million, they should pay their own employees, it’s irrelevant how much money the customer has. & I bet you really felt like someone special giving away someone else’s money… pathetic.

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Rick Drew
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pizza delivery person: $2 an hour, plus tips. Fridge delivery person: Usually paid by delivery and comes out to around $35 an our. Plus they often get tips.

Rocco MZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In our home if you deliver something to our house you will get a tip. Furniture, food, anything. We give our USPS, UPS and Fed X drivers gift cards art Christmas. We understand that people who work in any kind of delivery service don't make much money. UPS, Fed X and USPS might make a good wage, but they're still out there in the elements delivering stuff to us. I can't fix their pay scale, but I can show them they are appreciated. We tipped the two guys who delivered our couch and they were blown away and brought it all the way in the house, unwrapped it and set it up for us. We sent them on their way with some cold bottles of water. All this because we tipped them each 20 bucks.

Jamie Edwards
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That IS NOT TRUE that delivery drivers get paid regular minimum wage. They get paid tipped employee wages AND they have to pay for their car insurance and gas. But not once, ever, was I tipped for a company lunch properly. And I did it for many many years.

Nathan Fritts
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered pizza for Domino's long ago, in college, and the best tippers were regular, middle-class working people. The poor were just happy to be able to afford a pizza and often paid with handsful of change. College students like myself were notoriously cheap and you might get the difference between the cost and the next dollar up. I always chalked that up to plain old ignorance. But the wealthiest customers squeaked they were so tight. If scarcity is all you ever practice, scarcity is all you'll ever feel. Sad.

Vanessa Murphy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Canada, we always tip minimum 15% to wait staff, delivery drivers and other service workers. Even the fast food places that are allowed to take tips, we tip. Maybe not 15% or more, but we still put something in the tip cup. It’s just how it is and I’ve never encountered anyone complaining about having to tip or not tipping. I delivered pizza for 2 years and made a stupid amount of money. Especially when the weather was bad and snowing in the winter. My old boss would refuse to take orders from customers that treated us poorly. There weren’t many and it was rare but I had a great experience working in the service industry. A lot of people don’t realize that the drivers and servers have to tip out the kitchen staff too every 2 weeks.

Anouk T
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Broken USA system strikes again. People wrk hard and literally have to beg for money… wtf?!

Nicholas McCoy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is kind of amusing to me. I'm the sort of person that goes in to a restaurant, gets a $10 meal, and leaves a $20 to pay for it plus the tip. Why corporations and rich people are stingy boggles my mind. I'm always so grateful to get a meal I didn't have to make myself. Granted, going out to eat is a treat for me, so I want the person serving me to feel good too.

Warren Zoell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm curious. Do these delivery drivers ever share their tips with the people who actually make the pizzas?

Jacquie Wilson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Australia workers get paid wages and there is strong union support for any problems.....my friends pay bills by card and to my embarrassment don't tip. They say that the workers are doing a job and they simply don't tip. I tip whenever I am in a food establishment, exception being when one server was rude..

Brent Kaufman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not only the employers fault. It's also the legislature's fault for creating a law that allows businesses to pay less than minimum wage if the employees get tips. Corrupt politics is at the bottom of more than most people consider.

Stargazer66
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My partner and I always tip 20% on delivery. Food service is a crappy job with lousy pay. The federal minimum wage is $7.25 so restaurants are not required to pay more than that unless the state law has a higher minimum wage. The loophole for lower minimum wage for food service workers needs to be eliminated.

M Whee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems like this started when tips became expected the same way a standing ovation means nothing anymore.

Lingerie De Paris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair to the person getting the service, there are a lot of crappy waiters and waitresses and delivery drivers, case in point we got a hotels a lot and they never wanted to deliver to the room but leave it in the lobby. Well the reason I get it to begin with that I'm in my sleep where already hey Shirley don't want to go down to the lobby, also it's been missed delivered many times and they don't even know their own address in their own cities.

Lingerie De Paris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, I can see if it was 5 or 10 pieces, the time to deliver would have been the same as one pizza, but I would presume it's about 100 pizzas and that takes time going up and down as well as helping set it up for them to serve, I think something fair I should have been given like 75 or $100 for their time.

Brian Godby
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I worked at Dominos and Pizza hut they paid minimum wage and gas money. I look at the pizza before I rip. And I usually tip few bucks if the roads are icy or if it's raining out. I rip a dollar a drink when I go out when I go to dinner I try and tip well if the service is good. I have tipped hugely on a small bill and and service was great. I went to smokey Joe's and the waitress was kind of rude to my roommate and it was after the noon lunch rush. There was like five or six cars in parking lot. Only our table was being used.. our bill came out to #42 bucks. My roommate says is five bucks enough I said she brought out three plates and two drinks. And she was kinda rude. So I think it's just fine. Now a few months ago we went to this little hole in the wall restaurant for breakfast a ma and pa's place. The waitress she greeted us asked if we wanted coffee and brought us coffee and menus. She kept the coffee cups full. She was talking to us was nice and I tipped her the same as the

A Random Anvil
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As much as tipping reflects the toxic work culture these people have to endure, it needs to be done because otherwise these poor workers cannot make a basic living. While we fight to dismantle the system, we need to ensure that the workers are able to survive. $20 doesn't cut it. Especially on a nearly $1000 order! All the boxes, heating for ovens, assembling and ingredients needs to be compensated for.

TheReader19
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From UK here, I really hate top culture. I'm going to get down voted but if I'm paying £'s for my food or what ever I don don't actually want to pay you more for doing your job. Campaign for minimum wage and tips should be a bonus.

Ivona
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The transportation/delivery fee should be included in the price, and the driver should be paid for driving and mileage by the company. The customer isn't obligated to pay extra, and there's no law stipulating 18% tips. Even $1 over the actual amount is a tip. As long as customers leave tips, the restaurants will continue underpaying their employees.

Simon Gabb
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got a great tip as a country taxi driver here on Australia once. Fare was about $20, tip was $30 and a slab of VB beer. Average earnings that day about $30 an hour and that was in the mid 90s

Diphylleia Grayi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a child I remember asking my parents why they would tip, they say it was like an appreciation for their service. At that time people would have a salary, then several years after that, from time to time I started watching empty cans asking for tipping because they would help them to make their expected salaries. Whose are the bastards that started that practice that not attending tables or selling something would equal to not receiving their expected/promised salary? like: if you don't attend this number of people if you don't sell this we won't pay your work day. This is a rule among the worst I have understand when growing up.

Stay Off My Lawn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping all my money to the server because I’m guilty about my party’s bad behavior is exactly why I don’t go out with family anymore. Also, tipping culture is toxic af. It’s the employer’s job to pay their servers, not the customers. Capitalism is a cancer.

Randy Gordon
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact is that is our culture. Don't eat out if you are so damn cheap you don't leave a tip.my partner and I always leave at least a $20 bill even when the meal is not much.come on, $20 on a $928 order. That is bull****. If you ate from another country, don't walk into.a restaurant unless you can pay a tip. Go eat fast food! It is not the server's fault. My aunt lived near Canada. She would flat out tell those Canadians how cheap they were after leaving a 25 cent tip. It is. Just the way it works here.

Momus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The f*****g "18% minimum tip"!?!?! Are you f*****g kidding me? 18% is minimum now? Do you know what happens when you tip? The owners of businesses say "oh, we don't have to pay the employees as much because they get tips", and the lawmakers create exceptions that allow these people to be paid less. Here's a tip USA -- stop f*****g tipping! Reset the culture so that companies have to actually pay a real wage.

Ava O'Brien
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I myself am a pizza delivery driver and I'm what's known as a tipped employee which means I make less than minimum wage and have to rely on tips for the majority of my income. Most people these days don't even tip 20% hell 99% of the time they don't even tip 10%. I don't care if it's a $30 order. The least you can do is tip me $6

Aaron Taylor
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a BRIT, if the meal and service are nice, I'll tip a few pounds. I don't see why the tip would be calculated as a percentage of the food order. Like who would pay 168 dollars to a driver for what might have taken her maybe 10 minutes more than a single pizza.

Fair Sparrow
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my country tipping is kinda mandatory, but it's around 10-12%, 16 if you reeeeeealy happy. We have minimum wage. Waiters gets 10-15$ per hour. Waiters also never pay to other stuff like bellboys and bartenders, unless the day was really busy day and bartender jumped out of their pants. I usually tip 16%, because even with this, service is a shitty tiring job. They also very often can demand to pay for their taxi if they don't have other means to get to the shift. Don't know about delivery, but they certainly have minimum wage as well. But 25%, jeezz... Are you all right, America?

Pam H
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First, I am not tipping a pizza delivery driver based on percentage. Its the same effort to bring 3 pizzas as one. For $1,000 worth of food, okay I’ll up the tip, but no way $168. Secondly, businesses need to pay a living wage and stop exploiting workers through tip culture. Charge enough to pay workers a living wage and be done.

Yea ok
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Upliftimg Story: we ordered pizzas for an event and our leaders had preplanned to bless whoever delivered it. He showed up and walked in our gym, with 6 hot yummy pies! Boss yelled "who has cash for a tip?!" The whole fam raised hands, and we all formed a tipping line up with 10s, 20s and 50s! He left with close to $3,000!!

Gregg Leventhal
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked for tips for about 8 years, mostly delivering Pizza and Chinese food. Rich people are cheap, and women are usually cheaper than men. I really appreciated good tips, but generally thought anything 10% or over was fair. This was around 2000. It's gotten crazy these days. The expectations of delivery people have gotten way out of control. That said, even back then, for 1000 dollars of pizza and multiple elevator trips, $50 seems fair (based on my 20 years ago mindset). $20 would probably have been more likely though because that's how people are. I tip well personally, most of the time, because I know it's easy to do to make someone happy. But the entitlement of people is also a little much.

Alejandro Reyes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Very interesting, in the metro area where I live in Mexico, you normally pay a flat delivery fee and you're not expected to pay a tip. If you were to tip at a restaurant, a 10 to 15% tip would be customary.

john kavanagh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Include the salary of the staff in the takings and let customers decide if they want to eat and pay. Tipping is one of the things that would prevent me from ever visiting the USA again. Not because I'm poor (I'm not) but because I don't like tipping for poor service or arrogant waiting staff. If I feel someone has gone beyond the call of duty, I reciprocate at my own discretion. Not someone else's.

john kavanagh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a cheek she had to expect such a bonanza. Get a job with a salary. In a country that doesn't give a s**t about its inhabitants welfare, the people are still deluded into thinking it's the best country in the world. Why? We have yet to be educated as to why.

Joan Haugaard Jensen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Europe we almost never tip. It is not normal. If we tip it normally goes into a "jar" at the place for everybody to share. Wages should not depend on tip. The Wages needs to get up so that People actually gets paid the right and fair amount.

Karin Morris
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok while i think $20 is cheap for all that work for a corporate delivery. I would never tip a pizza delivery person the same amount as a waitress in a restaurant, that's complete BS, all they do is drop the boxes off. They don't do 1/8th of the work that a restaurant worker does. Pizza deliveries to the door is maybe $2. Restaurant dinner with a great waiter is 20%

Fred Bigox
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe the tip came out of the guys pocket and not company card. It could also be if any tips on company card they have to reimburse the company

Jason Melvil
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, OP is the total AH for 3 reasons: 1) Stop blaming the customers. If you think the client should pay $160 more then the owner of the pizza place should charge him for it. 2) Stop repeating this idiotic phrase "until it changes, tip people". It's the exact OPPOSITE. As long as you continue to tip, the problem perpetuates. If workers can't make a living wage in this job - they wouldn't work in it. Owners would have to raise salaries or go out of business. By being an idiot and pay tips, you are keeping the poor worker in the environment and make it look like there is no problem. Tipping is the problem, not the solution. 3) What is this nonsense of "it's not your money"? Company money is still money. It doesn't grow on trees and it has its purpose. You don't go spending it freely just because it's not yours. This is the mentality that get people to steal and embezzle.

SallyMJ MJ
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was 20, a few weeks before Christmas, our college pastor at church talked to us about tipping. We all felt guilty; we all wanted to change. At lunch after church that day, we tipped so much that we gave a huge tip to the waitress, and had enough left over to buy a Christmas tree for a poor family. We learned, and we felt good about it. Great object lesson. At age 20. You should be using a scalpel on the guilty, not a sledgehammer on the innocent as well. From whom are other people learning this at age 20? You can’t wait until the system changes; you need to give and show mercy to people now.

Greta Hoostal
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The government is responsible for this. It “revised the tip credit provisions to allow employers to pay qualifying tipped employees no less than $2.13 per hour if they received the remainder of the statutory minimum wage in tips”, https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/history but if you don’t, you probably won’t get paid. How could you prove it? I didn’t get that much one summer. Made up for it multiple times over at a different job a few years later, though. But not everyone can.

Dreamcatcher ton
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

California has minimum wage at the same level for everyone including servers. I don’t participate in tip culture because of it. Everyone should learn their states regulation because its different per state.

SilverSkyCloud
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how in the name of anything does a pizza hut order cost over $900, are they funding a wedding??? maybe if the US spent less money on shooty bang bang sticks they could ACTUALLY pay a decent wage

Jonathan Nichols
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember in California they were going to pass legislation to require a minimum wage for restaurant workers. The anti-legislation commercials told people "they're trying to take your tips away". It didn't pass.

Lee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay, I tip delivery drivers, but i don't tip what I would in a restaurant. The 18% is for me not having to lift a finger for the meal, including clean up.

Jaybird3939
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would love to get rid of the tipping culture. BUT, remember how businesses lost their minds when it was proposed to get minimum wage of $15 in place? Can you imagine how much of a hissy fit they'd have?

Ximena Arbelaez
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, you already working a job, and the whole tipping thing thing is just designed for employees to act overly nice in the border with hypocrisy. As a costumer I prefer honest interactions and no tip, than some BS over performed. People acting too weird over tipping, and they try to calculate the tip in front of the waiter??? that's just rude.

Anonymous Poster
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is not the customer's responsibility to pay the wages of another company's employees. This should be taken care of by the employer, not the consumer.

adaca welsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Corporate credit cards are monitored and mandated by federal law. Cash over a certqin amount would be considered bribery money and subject to federal fines. Also drivers often make minimum wage. Theyre not supposed to be tipped. Waiters often make 2 bucks an hour as their salary which is why they get "tipped" as their wage. However this leads to disparity and inconsistency. Tipping should not be a thing and everyone should be paid a livable wage. Stop with this tipping nonsense.

Mark Wlodawski
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A corporate credit card means the company sets a limit on what can be used and audits the expenses. Hollywood has made the company credit card and its user out to have an unlimited shipping spree ability, when in fact anything more than $20 might have come out of her paycheck or gotten her in big trouble. Delivery or waiting tables are OK jobs to get you off your feet or during college, but please don't get dependent on them. Like I was.

Jeff Diamond
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've delivered for four different companies, and it's horrible. In the early 00's when I was delivering for Domino's, I got $5.15 per hour, plus tips. Which I felt was pretty good for a kid just out of hough school. So I decided to try Grubhub for a while when I was out of work last year. I made a total of $7,000 in six months, and I had to use about $2k of that for gas. Tip culture crushes people who don't have anything else. Especially when you drive for someone who pays nothing per hour, plus half your area is wealthy neighborhoods where they only give you $1.50 for driving across the valley.

Johnny Ruffin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've had a similar experience, where I delivered $900 worth of Panera Bread for Door Dash toba College for a faculty function. The college did not tip and I drove from downtown Dallas to the college in Lancaster, Texas about 20 miles. And was only paid the Door Dash Driver fee of like $4.50 for the entire order. That didn't even cover my gas. Come to n now the college and Door Dash was wrong in my opinion, at some point where does the automatic gratuity for orders over a certain price and distance come into play. But Door Dash scams us drivers anyways. Because if you receiver multiple orders you will only get the drivers fee (between $2.50 and $3.50) only for the first order. So Door Dash pockets the fee for the other orders. Not sure why when I still have to drive and pick up and deliver the food to different customers.

D'Angelo McAlpine
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work for Domino's but doing this covid pandemic and with gas prices going up ,people don't tip still. Everyday I get a lot of contactless deliveries pay with CC and no tip and says leave that door but IDKY companies raise the delivery fees for each delivery some days "corporate"make more than me and I'm the delivery driver. And also it's just professional courtesy if you live in apartment and you want pizza delivered to the 5th floor and your front door leave a tip lol

John Kiernan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"It’s exploitative and is only kept in place by companies as a way to keep labor costs way down by having the customer be the primary source of a worker’s income.” The customer is always the only source of the worker's income, whether it goes thru the owner or directly to the worker.

Philip Williams
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never met anyone who planned and joined a trade, a vocation, did six years of military service, or had some realistic direction for their student loans who has these problems. Just saying. If there are no laws that an employer could be prosecuted with for not providing a living wage then they may not agree to voluntarily.

Louis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Btw I'm glad the entire comment section is tearing this girl apart lol. Beg for tips and get laughed at by the whole internet lol

Petty P
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've done pizza delivery, now I do delivery of food, alcohol and snacks. I like what I do, I don't have the same issue with the wealthy. Its just, you really never know honestly. I've had so strange or f'ed up interactions. One guy when I worked at papa johns called in a order and paid cash when I got there. He handed me 40$ and his order was 36-37$. He asked me for the change (we weren't allowed to carry any cash). I informed him I have other deliveries in my car, and that I'd need to goto the store to get the change. He told me he'd wait, I get back to the store about 30 minutes later he called the store. I was gonna bring it back, I'm not gonna get fired for 3$. But I also informed him he would have to wait, I told my manager. He just told me make sure I take it to him cause he called about it. I've had plenty of other interactions that where just too much for no reason. I don't expect a tip but its always the unsmooth transactions.

Hufflepuff (any pronouns)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know 18% tip is a lot, but $20 was a 2% tip. if you can afford almost $1,000 of pizza, you can afford at least a 10% tip, especially when the delivery person carries it up 3 floors and sets it up nicely for you

Bridget Fajardo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would agree that companies should pay their employees better so they don't have to depend on a tip, but with saying that doesn't change the fact that if I feel I got good service I TIP. As a pizza delivery driver she could of had them come down collect the pizza themselves and just leave but it sounds like this delivery driver went out of her way to carry it all up then set it up for them as well and with gas prices like they are right now that $20 probably just covered her gas.when I have a pick up order guess what I still tip as long as their service is good tip them shoot I tipped an employee at jack in the box , del taco, Bakers and those are simply fast food places if you feel someone gives good service and you see them busting their butts with a smile on their face and you know they work in a under appreciated under paid job it's simply showing their appreciated.But I don't like the mandatory tip because if I feel the services were no good staff was rude ect.then I won't tip.

Terri Snelling
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a pizza hut delivery driver and our base pay is NOT minimum wage. The employees working in store making the pizzas earn more in hourly wages than drivers do. However I do have a wage. If you use Door Dash or some other delivery service those drivers do not make a wage. Their earnings are strictly tips

E Talavera
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like to eat out bcuz I'm Ali e all day but can't always do a good tip & pay for my meal.

Jr. Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked for papa John's as a delivery driver they tell ya your gonna make like 13 or 14 an hr but they only give you half that they expect the customer tips to cover the other half i remember one week my actual pay check was only like 97$ I was upset 😡 I had a car payment due on the car I bought to deliver pizza in then like less than a week after this when I was getting off work still in my uniform I was hit by a car in on coming traffic and was fired because they didn't want the bad publicity of one of there workers being in an accident Is what I was told but my manager being a stripper at night didn't bother them one bit

Aubrey Jones
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I personally feel that tipping should be a gratuity and based on what the costumer feels is appropriate in each and every situation. I do not think that, as a Gratuity, it should be mandatory. But I was taxed on a percent of my sales and was made to pay those taxes on top of my wage taxes. I have no issues with paying taxes either. But I do not feel I should be made to pay taxes on money that I did not receive in tips. In this situation, that $20 tip is usually split up with some going to cooks, dish pit, order taker, and delivery diver. Oh and a bit for gas as well. Were this in Washington State, the tip of 18% on that and every order she delivered would be added up with wages BEFORE taxes and deductions are taken out the the total tips would be subtracted from this total then the remainder will be her take home earnings. I’m think that this is federal not just state because Washington uses sales tax not income. What I’m trying to say is that tipping is not a gratuity anymore. The government has passed in the 1990s that it is income and taxable. This is not appropriate in any way.

Ricson Singson Que
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In out country tipping is optional. We have a culture of service charge (SC). This is usually done for middle to higher end service industry which started with hotels and fine dining outlets. The SC is included in the total bill that the customer needs to pay aside from taxes. Customers assume all of these go to the staff force including the back office people. If you do not agree with the SC, then clients can go to another resto. Smaller establishments still do with traditional tipping practices from which our culture expects nothing...

ralph longo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping culture isn't bad, but it has become a slippery slope that IS bad. I delivered/worked for Pizza Hut for 25 years, when I started there was the sense of "If I can do it myself but I'm having someone else do it, it should be a tipped job." Most good servers/drivers can make way more money than a company could pay them, and they earn that money by being great for the customers. I've done serving, at Applebee's, and Delivery, servers don't like to hear it but delivery is a WAY more difficult job. Never once did I feel uncomfortable, or thought about my life being on the line, as a server. As a delivery driver that is literally a daily occurrence, bad drivers, dark house at night, left a note to "come around to the back door" are all totally normal. Is it 110 degrees outside? I hope the AC works but I put 30k miles of stop and go driving on my car in most years. -10 outside, with snow? Hope the heat works. Rain, you're out driving in it all. I could go on for hours, frankly.

Brian Poague
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been working at Domino's since March of 2020. I make $8.00 an hour while in the store, and $3.75 an hour plus $0.45 per mile while on deliveries. It amazes me how people think we get the delivery fee (which keeps going up yet my wage does not) but we never see it. All of our prices have been steadily rising, yet our wages stay the same. Yes, tipping culture is horrible but think about the delivery drivers. We are using our own money to bring your food to you and we usually average $3-4 tip. Most of the time drivers also take orders and make the food as well. Wait staff just takes your order, refills your drinks and brings your food in the same building and usually make more in tips than we do. Think about that next time you feel the need to stiff a delivery driver. Instead, come pick it up yourself.

Brian G.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Delivery Fee....doesn't it go in turn to support the drivers somehow,I thought it went to offer benefits to delivery drivers?? Am I incorrect on this? If so could you explain where it does go

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BusLady
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rich people are stingy. I think we all know that. Money corrupts them. That's how they got wealthy and how they stay that way. They live in a different world.

Tiffany Jasgarszewski
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have worked in this industry for many many years. And it's sad. I worked for a restaurant in Kentucky years ago, that when it was time to vote for restaurants to start paying these employees an hourly wage instead of relying on tips, that the owner told us to vote No against this. This is BS. There needs to be a union set up for this industry in smaller towns. Vegas has a union. In California servers get hourly and sometimes gets tips as well. People don't understand that we have to pay 13% of our total sales out of the end of each day ,added up for a year, and that's the taxes we pay for other people to eat and drink. Yes, we have to pay even though sometimes we get Zero in tips. And it is very well know that the wealthiest are the cheapest tippers while the middle class to poor are the kindest. It's sad but very true. We do not like waiting on you cheap a*s people. You complain the most , run us the most and always try to get stuff for free. It's annoying.

Alin Fazakas
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boredpanda used to have good articles. Now they write about this type of things. I've got news for you: not the client is the AH in this story.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And they will in turn Tip the U.S. for such great delivery service of items! Items seized by Russia as it turns out all this free stuff made no difference. But yes Tip is in the mail

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if we should tip this luxury service we're all using right now????

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

AHHHH YES!!! THE IMPORTANT TOPICS WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON!! IF THIS IS THE WORST IN YOUR WORLD I DARE SAY,MOVE ON WITH A SMILE.

Jennifer Sturgeon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think many are missing the point. Yes, I think people should be outside a livable wage, but it would drive prices up... The point is, if you go out or order in, people are doing you a service! Why fast food is different than dine in! When you order food to be delivered, they are taking their time, their gas and their effort to get the food to you, not to mention preparing the food! If you don't believe in tipping, then cook yourself! 20 dollars wasn't even good enough for her to carry the c**p up.. imagine how many people were eating that food!? If each person put in a dollar, it would've been more than 20 dollars! And I don't want to hear that's her job... Her job is to get it there.. she could've handed it all to the "contact" person and said have a good one... I bet she would've if she knew what the tip was... This is why customer service is going to c**p, definitely not like it used to be... Customers are becoming more entitled because they think they're special! Wrong!

Joe Black
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why don't companies pay enough so their worker can live comfortably. No one is obligated to tip for any service they are already paying for. Tipping culture is disgusting.

Likely Scamington
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping fairly is easy though you cheap MFR's... IF YOU CAN'T TIP RIGHT THEN STAY HOME! IF THE TIP ISN'T ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE WHOLE AMOUNT YOU HAD EXPECTED TO SPEND ON DINNER OUT, OR ON YOUR DELIVERY THAN DRINK OR EAT LESS. TO TIP FAIRLY: DOUBLE THE TAX AND ADD $1-5 DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE... IT COMES OUT TO 15-17% EVERYTIME... YOU'RE WELCOME FROM LAS VEGAS IM OUT...

Darway Lin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For an outsider's point of view, yes, tipping culture in the US is truly stupid and unjust.

Asher Arendale
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny I should stumble on this article today. I was just groaning about a tip I had to leave just several hours back. I've been the tipper and have also worked jobs where I relied on tips, so like a lot of people I've been on both sides. IMO the tip culture is a scam. It allows employers to not even have to pay their employees the legal minimum wage requirement which is an accomplishment in itself. It also puts undue pressure, and stress, on employees. I try to be not only logical and practical about everything in life but also reasonable, and I think that tipping is only ever really legit when it's not a major source of income for an employee and when it's not required from clients. I'm sure one can argue that tip culture is practical, and I bet some expert lawyer out there can make an argument for tip culture being logical. But I don't believe you can put 'tip culture' and 'reasonable' together in the same sentence and make any sense to anyone.

Mickey Bugh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We made 20+ pizzas for the U of Arizona softball team when they came to Seattle last year. No tip.

Michelle Pratte
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, I used to work at an Applebee's in Southern Indiana. I worked there for eight wonderful years!! I had good days and I had bad days. I was a server of course, I had my regular customers who became like family to me and I had customers whom I hoped I would never see again, but we all do who work in the service industry! When I order pizza it's always an argument between my husband and I on the tip! He believes no tip and I believe at least 15% or more. When times are rough and we "treat" ourselves I try to make sure the delivery driver, to go person, or my server gets a minimum of 15% and when times are good I make up for what I couldn't do before and they get 20% or higher! Statistics say the second most stressful job in the world is being a server! The first is an airline steward or stewardess!!! So seriously if you don't want to tip your servers or delivery driver that's on you!! Should servers make more, absolutely but until that happens cook your own food or burn up your own gas

Psychosis8232
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hysterics ensue but to a lot of people saying drivers make minimum wage servers don't blah blah blah that may be true some places but not all I been working for pizza hut for over 2 years as a driver "servers" make 12.25/ hr I make 7.00/hr fed minimum wage is a pathetic 7.50 but as is plainly noticeable there I make less then federal minimum as YUM brands uses federal tipped employee minimum wage wich is currently a laughable 2.75/hr for drivers and pays out so little in fuel reimbursement that we typically need to drive 20 miles to pay for a single gallon of gas they also have us use our own vehicles which we must insure ourselves and pay for all maintenance ourselves which means tires,brakes,oil/fluid changes,plugs and wires,and cleaning the vehicle to name just a few basics so no these two persons are not the same they pay for a couple pairs of shoes we pay for thousands in routine maintenance a year and the damned tread safe shoes that fall apart faster when walking in mud and grim

Enby Gilbert
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Too many of these commenters either don't understand what US workers are dealing with or they didn't really pay attention to the story. In the end, this seems like just one more chance for Bored Panda editors to create a space for people to bash the US. We know this is a problem. Dozens of people being rude does not help the workers in this country deal with that. It's not that hard to write about other things, folks.

Dustin Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My wife (non-us born) currently works in a restaurant. They do not pay the tips directly to the waitresses, instead she makes about $3 above minimum wage. She has expressed a desire to work somewhere that she would get tips, believing she would make more. I have tried to convince her that her current situation is a lot better because she makes "consistent" wages. Although, I do not agree with the fact the current employer doesn't give the tips to the staff. I feel that at least they should divide say 75% equally among those working that shift (although I know some will say 100%, but I do think some could go back into the business itself, JMO)

Matthew Kaiser
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping has gotten out of control. Is 20 fair for the extra work she did lugging it up the stairs and setting it up, no it's not at the same time 18 percent is way too much I would say 50 would be fair. Twenty should cover getting the food to the elevator. Another 10 to bring it upstairs and another 20 to set it up. It was wrong he knew he's was screwing her on tip for all the extra work she did and didn't need to take advantage of her figuring she went the extra mile knowing she's trying to get a better tip. I think it's rather foolish to deliver using your own car. The amt of value your car looses, the set in gas, the maintenance bills, etc. Your car also smells terrible and your sickened by the smell of food. You worked for free by the end 2. All you earned probably paid for the car. The more u work the more milage etc. It's a step foward and two steps back. You lost all the money you could have made during that time that didn't cost u the value of a car and its maintenance. I believe the term is a pyric victory. It's rather sad. There's no cost effective way for things to work for a delivery company. Eventually somewhere at sometime, someone pays the price.

Jerami Draper
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dominos charges a delivery fee. I assume that goes to the driver?

Beth Kostrab
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a company cardfor one job and was an admin who ordered food for lunches all the time. We actually had a max that we could tip delivery drivers because of the amount of orders they got from our organization. I don't remember the amount but this could be a similar situation. Not saying it's right but sometimes policies stink. Also when I had those large orders we always went through catering options because we knew they charged for their time in this situations and didn't make their employee only rely on tips.

Uvo Zodd
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A delivery job isn't supposed to be a "living" wage job. It's supposed to be for high schoolers and college kids. If you want enough money to support a family then get a better paying job. It's not up to every company to pay this living wage everyone seems to just assume they are owed. Grow up and get a real job ffs.

Jaya Kumari Veeraraghavan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Companies should pay employees a living wage and not make clients pay tips. Getting $2.15 per hour is crazy. After all the company is making the profit. They should pay their employees a living wage.

Tickled Pickle
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered pizzas for a couple years. I still remember the biggest tip I got. It was I think an $80 order. They handed me a wad of cash. I counted it out, and found a mistake in the amount they gave me. I went back and told them, and they told me to keep it for my honesty. It was over half what the order itself was. I was thrilled. I also remember getting ripped $0 by a church that put in a $250 order, so...

Michael Barber
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She fo what she deserved after expecting an 18% tip of 168$ wtf you are a f*****g delivery driver your job is not that hard

Shehzadi Amal
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked Dominos and routinely delivered huge orders to corporate customers......One was 60 pizzas, plus two litres, plus additionals like plates and what not. Dude *walks with me*, not carrying anything for each of the five trips to my car and all the way to the back of this very large store.....let me add I was limping on a swollen and braced ankle as he watched. They generously gave me a $6 tip. The most you could usually hope for was $20 on those big orders, but that was rarely.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He didn't apply for your job! He was smart enough to the wage for doing said task,vs cost of living =you're f****d. You agreed and signed that dotted line. What would you tip him for doing part of your job...ya know the one you accepted after being told the wage and job requirements for said wage. Would he expect your hourly or what %tip

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Samantha Velez
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand these people do deliveries with the expectation of getting tips but how about be grateful for the tip u did get and stop worrying about the amount you thought you were gonna get. People are just so ungrateful now a days and that is really sad. If she had such a problem with what they gave her don’t go talk about people tell them right then & there or don’t say nothing at all

Steve Plew
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Resturant industry hasn't paid their employees squat and expect the public to make it up. We now pay way to much for their for as it is. The middle class is abour busted we can't keep supporting the load. Maybe it's time the delivery people found a democrat or maybe just send a tip request straight to joe biden let him pay it at least he would be doing something for our country he's a bad joke at least he got a tip. The only tip in 47 yrs of work i got was when i lived in louisville on a horse and it was a bad one

Aaron Goodman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ah, only in USA and Canada. Nobody in all world have the culture of tips and if you tip in Japan the worker will be offended.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good thing we're not f*****g talking about Japan isn't it!! I bet in f*****g Ukraine, nobody gives a s**t and in most countries the same

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Chad Shaffer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being that I worked in a restaurant for 25 years, working my way from dishwasher to manager I have seen many things. One topic of debate was always tipping. I actually am about 50/50 on the issue, I have always said the customer is going to be the one to pay regardless. Now if it was changed to paying servers to a higher wage what's going to happen is the establishment will adjust their menu prices once again putting it on the customer. So either way the customer is going to pay. Now on the other side I do believe that a server and a delivery driver should be rewarded on the basis of their service. This person was definitely shafted,if you want them to bring it plus set it all up then have it catered. This is a way the big companies get out of paying a large catering bill. Tipping is always going to be a debatable topic and there is always going to be good and bad points to it all.

Oliver Johnson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ive been in the service industry for 20 years. I have worked mostly as a bartender but also had jobs as a server only and worked a few catering jobs too. Catering is where the tipping culture truly hits the exploitative proverbial "tipping point"(yes, pun intended) where these owners of catering companies charge literally for everything possible includng per staff member needed for an event. I went on one jobs websites and they charged customers $7 an hour more than they actually paid anybody. $7 f**king dollars an hour per server or bartender working the event!?!? Not just that but since the IRS changed the defintion of any auto-grat or service charge fee was now consdered income for the house. So what did the owners do? Keep all the tips ob-v. I cant fault them for that but where I do fault them is not disclosing none of it goes to staff. This is only an issue in catering as bars and restaurants took autograts from menus but cateting did not. Guess % that the staff gets. Y

dan panetta
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hell no. I would leave all that pizza at the front desk. I know for damn sure not to expect some large tip and setting myself up for disappointment. In this society don’t expect anything.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Says the guy living in his mom's basement, whos never been employed, and sucks off of the tipped and non tipped alike tax dollars

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Kathy the Avocado
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In addition, for the people who say to get better jobs: getting a better job isn’t a walk in the park either. And for that statement, you better make sure to cook your own gourmet meals. If you don’t know how to cook, learn to cook then. Or pick up your own meals. “But what about gas?” Then, you see how the delivery people going through. Gas is steep itself, so $168 would pay for gas, their own food, help pay rent, get extra necessities as well. It’s probably the same people who thinking tip that much for a $938 food is the people who think books are expensive. Just stick dollar stores and thrift shops then.

Kathy the Avocado
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the people who say tipping $168 is steep just basically missed the point like missing target on the dart board: she didn’t JUST deliver the pizza to the company. When she arrived, she unloaded, hauled it up to the office, and set up the pizza for the f*****g people. Had the people JUST picked up the pizza themselves when she handed them the boxes, then yeah the tip should be $80-$100, but she basically worked like Rocinante with the boxes and set up the boxes. America is basically a broke a*s with a Ferrari, Versace sunglasses, and Gucci bags.

Scott Kuechenmeister
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

America's white male dominated society is an epic fraud of "equality and opportunity". Abandon the service industry or forever kneel on bended knee to those who do not value your contribution or needs. Let the greedy rich serve their own lattes because only then will they depart with their pilfered riches . (women, he, she, they) 😉

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I bet where your from all come on Sunday to set around you and listen to all your words. And your government I'm sure gives daily parades to all your contributions and at the end listen to your needs. F*****g Tool. That's the problem with foreign lands....They're full of foreigners

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James E White
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i work at a Lowe's Home Improvement in building material. We are pulling orders for customers all day long while they stand now running their d**k suckers and flirting with women. We pull the order we load the order and we don't get tipped the damn thing so stop your bitching about a $20 tip!!!!

Andrew Kruzz
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my advice, don't expect more for what you do to anyone (sorry if my english is bad )

Marie Cadavieco
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is outrageous that the company charges stupid money for fast food and the delivery driver does not get their fair share, esp if they have tompay for their own ptrol or diesel.

Randy Coffman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You ever go out if thus country you realize how screwwd we are by this tipping system. I've been in brazil no matter what you order how much they leave a real tip about 20 cents here they pay there waiters like everyone else. If a waiyer waits on 4 rables a hour which isnt a lot of work you tipping 18% that is 4 tables 100 a table thats 64 dollars a hour. You work 40 hours a week thats a 133k to wait rables. Nit counting the 2 dollars a hour the restuarsnts have to pay. We waste billions on tips a year.

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And Brazil is so much better. Great laws,non corrupt government, poverty levels so much better than US,homeless population is great,child abduction and being forced into sex trade is astonishing, LMFAO. And that tip&currency is so worth all that clean,great living because its worth next to nothing on the world stage

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Mohammad Rahman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also no one tip the uber driver. I worked for uber for two years and only twice I got $20 tip. Once I got $10. 95% of my customers never paid me any tip (those includes Casino owner and CEO and very successful people).

Brian G.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why are you all info collecting on your customers? How do you all know what each did, net worth,etc., I'd say your tip fishing and trying to extort

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Mohammad Rahman
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Mohammad Rahman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as an uber driver for two years. 95% of my customers didn't pay me any tip. Those who tipped me usually paid me a dollar or two. In my long driving career only two customers paid me $20 as a tip and one customer paid me $10.

Diane Tenoso
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked at Holiday Inn Salina Ks ( years ago) I had a party table. Was 45 or so people I was the only waitress. Working the table But all went well so I thought.... I served alcohol drink soda tea and such. Took there order and delivered the food. Also Desserts Not once did I ask them who had chicken who had steak. I had a system and it worked. They left not one tip on the table so I ask the hostess they left Nothing........ I was very upset I was raising 3 kids on 2.25 a hour. This took all the hours for my shift. I had no chance to get other tables. I was given this because they knew I could handle it. They had went into the bar. The manager ask why no tip? What was wrong? The man in charge said... she missed a drink! What one drink and no tip. Yes he said. She messed up. GET OUT ! We're the next words from the manager. He argued with her. She called the big boss in told him what happened. He said Get Out. The hotel paid me my 20% from general fund

Jessica Mallott
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So you’re working a job making 2.25 an hour and expected to support and raise 3 kids? U agreed to that job and to the wage. That’s on u

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Alana Voeks
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Considering we just went back 100 years with abortions, I highly doubt that waitstaff are gonna be any goal for the jackasses in government. That means more money they'd need to spend out because none of them cook! These morons only give a s**t if you're a fetus. Day to day life for those who are actually alive they couldn't care less about, and that's especially true of people in lesser paid starting positions. I can guarantee you, the only reason people are paid wages at all is because they'd have buildings burned and knocked down and people putting a stranglehold on what the government could do otherwise. They planned to take over the citizens, it just took a few generations.

Gabriele Profita
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

American tipping "culture" is complete b******t, the owner of the restaurant/pizzeria/food place earns from their employees the same way any other business does, so why should they rely on tips? Why should the responsibility of their pay be shifted to the customers when it's the employer duty to pay their employees? Why does this thing happen only on the food industry? Why tipping is percentage based? All of this is total nonsense since the employee doesn't pay for the food so it's not like a more expensive order automatically results in way more work on their side. Tipping in other countries is considered just as a nice small little extra and never becomes huge based on the amount spent. If that was the case sign me up to work in some luxury restaurant serving all stuff from $100 up so that from every single table I'll get tips so huge I'll earn more than someone with a qualified job...

Brian G.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Americas worker culture seems to be f*****g r******d. Before they accept the job the wage and task for wage are explained! Guess what...you don't have to accept. In the same time you took to write this could have applied somewhere else. Not today! Instead of moving on you want to move an immovable object! They don't tip for stupid either I hope they know@!! Do tip the dispensary worker

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Nácole Singletary
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For all these people who keep talking about Amazon and USPS Drivers etc. Please note that these drivers are paid WELL for what they do. I don't know about everywhere but where I live some of them make almost $30/h I would say they are pretty well compensated for their time. And they are not using their own cars their own gas not are they expected to keep maintenance up or insurance on the vehicle they are driving. But for delivery drivers all of that is expected to be handled by them. With gas at an all time high, and the cost of living nearly 45% higher than it was 2 years ago some of these drivers might not be making enough to fill the tank up after paying rent and food and any other expenses they have in order to survive. And if you are a server or anything like that it is even worse $2.13 an hour and some of them are required to split tips with cooks and bussers, which by the way are making minimum wage or better already. It's b******t it's ugly and it's always will be

K Clarke
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Very few wealthy people can relate, so they don't understand; and even less care about anything, or anybody outside of their selfish little bubble.

Sheila Stamey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But .. Just for the sake of, it's is what it is, because the tip culture isn't going anywhere soon. Just saying. How about we remember that the drivers, delivery folks, wait staff, even hairdressers get tips! I agree, tip culture sucks, it's really difficult to budget when you just have no clue how much you are going to be paid. I've walked out with five bucks after a shift, because of bad weather, and I've gone home with $3,000. You can't even average it out. It reduces you to begging slavey style to every customer. But you can never say the word tip. EVER. not to a CUSTOMER!

Tyler Christian
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I tip based on time mostly. Anything less than 1 hour I will tip around $10. 1 1/2 hours I will tip $15. 2 hours is $20. They are getting money that they can do under the table if they want and don't have to pay taxes on because I hand them cash. But I agree that $168 is too much. I would have probably tipped about $75 for that many pizzas but I would have also had a rolling table or a chair to get it back upstairs! I consider how much effort someone has to put out for me. If I'm inside a restaurant I will tip very well because someone is "waiting" on me...bringing me things and refilling drinks. But driving and delivering is not usually strenuous and it's not multiple trips to my table for our needs, so I go by time spent.

Bob Cakin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the flabbergastingfart guy, the fact that rich people tend to tip less than poor people is not surprising. Poor people usually know what it's like to work those service industry jobs where you're buating your a*s, not making a substantial amoubt of money, and completely reliant on tips. Most rich people in the US (and the west in general) were born with their wealth so they have been priveleged their whole life. Rich people are also more likely to think these service industry jobs are really easy since they have never had to actually work one so they just don't appreciate it as much. In fact, many rich people never had to work a day in their lives so they just don't understand how reliant people are on tips. I'm gonna end the comment here because typing this s**t out is making me incredibly f*****g angry. Eat the rich!

Brain Willis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure what to tip anymore, but someone providing full table survive should get a good bit more than someone working the takeout counter as a percent of the order. Just as importantly, the price of a pizza pays the prep work (including topping and dough), building and cooking the pie, paying rent on the store including oven, ordering supplies snd payroll, and a lot more. Is the server really shouldering More than 20% of all this effort getting the pizza into my hands?

Kris Paul
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the love of everything please tip your Uber driver, Lyft driver, or food delivery drivers! I did over 3,000 rides as a driver and both companies take way too much of the money. Uber often took well over 50% of the fare. A short ride would only pay me $2-$3, but the customer was paying over $10. I tip at least $5 on any ride or delivery. If it's a short ride I tip $10. If it's a long ride I will tip $20. Back when I was a driver in 2017 maybe 5% of people tipped. You are getting into their own personal car and they are taking you anywhere you want to go for dirt cheap, please be generous and tip. These big tech companies don't pay anywhere near enough for Gig workers.

KJS Design
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One time I delivered an order for Ernie Bach Jr. Which is a huge person in the Massachusetts Boston area. I used to work for a coffee shop called Perks and we sold tons of food. One day I did a delivery for around a $2,000 catering order to his hanger in Norwood, Massachusetts and was left zero tip! I walked in to see his numerous high-end vehicles and his groupie girls hanging around his band while he was playing music in his hanger for people as I'm setting up an entire catering order that took me half a day to finish. Not only did I drop it off and make it perfect but I left with with zero tip at all. I was expecting 50 bucks at most but nothing

Mendevil Anthony
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If food crisis is up hill ...cost alot more on Instacart delivery ...that I use already ..wich cost me al no ist near 400$ why does Instacart still wanna charge me more for tip and delivery this world is greedy I'm on SSI did I mention so if someone is buying 900$ worth pizza ...to pizza hut why would they have to cough up tips ...if pizza hut's being paid near 900$ already ?

Ben's Friends Books Dream Cloud Ink
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So tired of hearing people whine that they didn't get a daily bonus for working... Neither do I and nobody throws me extra cash for my hard work which I guarantee is harder than setting up a few pizzas or whatever. If the job doesn't pay well look elsewhere, don't depend on others to compensate you for doing your job. Your own fault you excepted the job. I make it a point not to tip anymore because of these entitled people that thing everyone owes them something. Just do your job and be grateful for what you have and stop complaining about your wage, just find something better if it doesn't pay your bills... or stop living beyond your means like millions in credit card or student loan debt. If you don't have the money, dont borrow the money.

None Ya
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, This really is a disappointing and debatable issue. Despite the comments this is not just an American Issue. Tipping should be done across the board for many service and delivery industries but it is not.. I typically tip higher and deduct or add based on the quality of service. I think everyone should be paid a living wage no matter the industry. During Covid I have been delivering groceries, packages, shopping and such through assorted apps. Tipping is not required but has been both a delight and a annoyance. I have never worked in this type of setting before and do find it disappointing when I don't recieve a thank you or a tip. In the case of the pizza young lady. I can understand her disappointment that she didn't receive a more comparable tip. The employees certainly could have taken up a collection since to company foot the food bill. Not all corporations tip sad to say. I have mixed reactions to the wealthy being too cheap to tip. I have seen cheap tippers on both sides.

Gizmo TeknoDekkeR
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand this is a corporate group and the company paid in this instance, but generally a large group would have no issue tipping $168, as that amount of food had to go around a fair few people. Chip a few dollars in each and you're getting close to that mark easy. Why is it so hard to just be nice to the hospitality sector... I'm not going to be rude to the people handling my food!

Michael Leary
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once when it was near Xmas I ordered two large pizzas to my house. I had 300 bucks in my right pocket and the pizza money with the 20% in the left. I was so happy the guy showed up early and it was the evening of the 23rd. He gave me the pizza and wished me a merry holiday in return. I watched him walk back to his car as I locked my gate. He yelled hey man, are you sure about this tip? I said yeah have a great holiday. He was grinning so hard and couldn't stop thanking me. I thought it a tiny bit odd, but waved him on. Later that evening I realized I had pulled the cash out of my right pocket. At first I felt stupid but then felt what the heck, he'll always remember this day. Best pizza guy for the next few times - he must have been one of a few. He always was my friendly pizza guy and I was always privately happy about this. It was and always will remain 'his turn'. I always try to tip more and delivery people like him are the real hard workers. Especially pizza and weed deliveries.

Greg Sears
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have not complained or said anything to anyone. But I'd be lying in the weeds waiting for the next time I was sent to that business. I'd be leaving all kinds of special little extras in their food.

Tim Masters
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I delivered pizzas the companies making massive orders almost always screwed me super hard like this. I had orders for thousands and wouldn't get any tip sometimes.

Marsha Qualls
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would love to know the Corps name and company address. They should be ashamed of theirself. If you cant tip like your suppose to just dont go out or order in.

Rhonda Weigandt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a server for many years and there is no telling how many large groups of people I've waited on and taken very good care of that never left a tip as a tipped employee I automatically knew some people were kind enough to tip and others could care less and I want to personally thank all the people that tipped me and that tip others I depended on them for most of my personal income and if it weren't for kind generous people I would have been forced to work in another field. I liked doing what I did and taking care of people and if a person doesn't like taking care of people and serving them then they need to change jobs.I always felt that if they didn't tip they must need it worse than me and I just moved on but it takes a certain outlook to feel that way and of course I was disappointed many times that's the way it is serving the public.

Robert Harmon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Total a hole 18% is standard gratuity on large parties ie bills 400+ depending on the restaurant and because of cheapskates most restaurants factor it in to the total... She was due 18%

Julianna Yoder
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"ShaolinJohn revealed that he worked as a waiter for a few years before entering the workforce." ...anyone else see what's wrong here? This is part of the problem. Being a waiter is the workforce.

Liam MacLeod
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You want a story? Last night I had to block post after post from angry women that are taking Roe v Wade out on every man they can. It was really late, in TikTok. They weren't after me. My name at this point still is Liam Macleod. I'm going through a name change. In there, I was known as Ben Blackwell author (you're not allowed to use brackets. I'm an author, retyping a book) my name in there is Ben Blackwell (author) I had 9 sisters growing up. One lost her virginity to a date rape. My ma was also raped. Guess who's side I was on, from the beginning. My posts reflect that. I quit tick tock because for 30 years women have been saying they don't want our help. Suddenly, the men were under attack, anything from ads trying to get a petition going to force men to have vasectomies starting anywhere from age 12 to 16, to "we should never have sex with them again" it's not the men's fault. Either you want our help or you don't. The blaming and shaming of men in there was so bad I did a post, o

Demon Child
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

omg you poor thing ty for coming out as a minority I support your journey king🤗 These girls only want nice guys nowadays😠

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Michael Wandler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pizza delivery drivers almost exclusively use their personally owned vehicles to make deliveries. They are paid mileage (usually around 20 cents/mile) or by delivery (usually 75 cents to $1). This barely covers the cost of gas (before the recent cost spike). All other vehicle maintenance costs come out of the drivers’ pockets. In other words, pizza delivery drivers are basically paying money to bring you your food, as opposed to other delivery services that use company-provided vehicles. As pizza delivery pays minimum wage, if people don’t tip, it would make no sense for anyone to take those jobs. They would realize more money by working any other minimum wage job that doesn’t require them to put out money on vehicle maintenance. So, as much as any other occupation that needs tips to survive, we should all tip our pizza delivery drivers generously. That written, having delivered pizzas on and off for ten years in the past, I never would have expected a $170 tip on any order ever.

Tiffany Nonella
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping is b******t. Also, people screaming pay a living wage. What exactly is a living wage to you? Unskilled workers get paid what they deserve, hence they are unskilled. Most servers in the US make more than construction workers. Tipping culture is just another symptom of the entitlement of my generation and Gen Z. If you can't live off your wage then learn a skill and actually become a productive member of society.

Michael Wandler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is interesting how people make these mental divisions. I get paid over six figures to work in the “knowledge economy.” I got paid minimum wage to deliver pizzas. I would argue delivering food to hungry people was actually the more important of the two jobs, even though more people could do that than could successfully hold my other position. Are the suppositions we have about what accounts for skilled/unskilled, productive/unproductive, necessary/unnecessary work actually serving us well?

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Marvelous Rex
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, it's insane to me that in all the push to get min wage to $15, no one seemed to push that hard to get rid of the whole tip culture BS. How this was ever made legal in the first place is beyond me. With that out of the way, I have multiple questions about this order. Don't most places make you place catering style order or some other type of special order for large orders like this? The OP says the order $938 but it doesn't say if this was ONLY food/drinks. There could have been an extra fee in there that covered what she did. Then whoever placed the order would logically assume that she is paid out of that. Also, I've seen in corp evironments where it's not the person who orders the stuff, but rather the person who approves the expense report, who dictates how much tip (if any) can be left. So you may be attacking another underpaid worker just doing their job.

jcrmlr
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I moved back to the Indiana area after being gone for about 25 years. I never really lived there as an adult (left for school at 18). I went out to eat with my extended family at a Mexican restaurant. At the end of the meal, I was trying to assess the bill for a 20% tip, at which time my cousin said; what are you doing? I told him, and he said; oh no, tip is $1, that’s a Indiana Tip! He said they’ll expect it the next time! I said, yes, they’ll be prepared to spit in our food!!! I never went out to eat with them again!!!

James Baum
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what's wrong with Americans today. To start with is the entitlement. To think that a customer OWES you something is incredible. You are doing your job and being paid at least minimum wage which is far more then 2-3 dollars. When delivering pizza you are far less busy then your typical server at a restaurant. You job is essentially driving, and carrying the food to the door. An actual server is far more valuable to the company they work for. As for the fuel, most companies pay miles or fuel. This argument or write up, is just proof of laziness and entitlement out of this generation of America

Sanchi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, the average minimum wage for america is $11.80 an hour. Where you found it was 2 or 3 dollars is beyond me. Secondly, here is another example of jumping to conclusions. Since one, or two, or even one million people are entitled, there are 350+ million people in America. So even if 3.5 million people are entitled, it’s incorrect to assume all of America is entitled, considering that’s less than 1 percent of the population. Please stop assuming stuff about america in a million people. While I agree about your other points, using the word america is just racist and, with all due respect, ridiculous.

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Rebecca Bryson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Personally, I tip well. I used to be in food service industry.. when you know you.. The bill for that Corp for its meeting is a tax deduction.. shame on them for their ignorant 20.00 insulting tip

JP Pla
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a $20 tip. These delivery drivers feel so entitled. People in the service industry feel so entitled in general.

Josh McNair
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not everywhere in the US relies on tips for pat. Hello, east cost, there is more than just you. More States pay at least min wage no matter what. Tips are a bonus. Most delivery drivers get paid a wage plus per delivery. Your tip is again another bonus. I delivered spas and never got a tip. I made min wage. Pizza delivery doesn't share their tips with everyone like a server. Youre giving them a tip for driving your pizza to you. That's their job. They get paid for it already. The driver in question did hardly any extra work. $20 sufficient. Everywhere is hiring. There is no excuse to have a min wage job. Target is paying $18-$20/hr

Chris Shaffer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of my children worked in food service and the two main things I learned. They made a ton of money on tips. Way more than if the were paid 15 dollars an hour. Two, 99 percent of.people tip and tip appropriately. They rarely ever had anyone not tip them My daughter for example waited tables at a restaurant and typically had three to four tables an hour. On tips alone she would come with 300 dollars a night or more. She mad over 40,000 one year.

JP Pla
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a 20 dollar tip. She chose that job. I don't believe in tipping and don't understand it.

De Nilla
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery drivers DO NOT makea standard minimum wage. They are "tipped service workers" and therefore the minimum wage for them is as low as $2 in some states. Even Papa John's doesn't pay them more than $4/hour. It sucks that you don't want to pay the driver and the restaurant, but in America that is the way things are set up. So, either pay for the service or don't use it. People that find excuses to not pay are simply exploiting service workers and are entitled slave drivers. You're basically a low-key Karen too. This is in reply to "freaknomore" as they started that delivery drivers make a fair minimum wage.

Ray Arani
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivery driver here. I've literally gotten to the end of working an eight hour shift where I was just unlucky and didn't get good tips, and realized that even with low tips on every job, I actually lost money after counting up my expenses for the day. Servers get percent tips because they're providing service. Food delivery drivers provide services as well, about the same amount of time and effort...the real difference is that we are literally paying money to bring our customers food. If I have to put time, energy, resources, and money into a job, I should at least make a profit. Some days I go home with less money than I left the house with, some days I barely break even, and some days I have great customers and make a decent wage. Because of my health circumstances I don't have a choice. This is the only job I can do.

Ray Arani
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On top of that, a McDs order is less effort than a fancy steak house order. At McDonald's I can walk in, they hand me the bag, and I walk out. At a steak house I go in, they tell me how long the wait is, and then I either wait 5-10 minutes inside, or 10-30 minutes in my car, idling so I don't die of freezing or overheating, depending on the season, then finally get the food, usually drive way further than I would for a McDonald's order because everyone has a McDs nearby but the fancy steak house isn't on every corner. So after a 25 minute drive, I pull up to fancy neighborhood where nobody puts visible numbers on the houses and when I finally figure out which house it goes to they have a note that says not to pull into the driveway. So I park on the street, then walk up a super long driveway and hope they remembered not to leave their giant 5000 dollar poorly trained dog outside, and then drop their food I'm the correct location, hike back to my car, to find out I made $3.50.

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Crystal Ellis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you want an interview from a soon to be ex-domino's driver, I'd be happy to deliver the scoop... it's truly insane. They expect me to not only drive but help in the kitchen and clean and even close, leaving me with maybe 6 hours of sleep per day. Mind you, told them my availability was 3-9 only bc I have small kids and my wage per hour was only 6/ hour and they EXPECTED me to do more than just my job for that piddly bit which is barely covering my gas. No, they don't help you at all with gas either... assistant managers get it even worse... I was promoted recently and have had enough

Ares Minks
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This story doesn't ring true at all. Pizza delivery drivers make an hourly wage based on normal wage standards. They aren't on the same pay scale as servers at restaurants. Nobody pays pizza delivery drivers an 18% tip. It's usually something like 3 to 5 dollars per order and never based on the value of the order. It doesn't make any sense at all that the Pizza Hut delivery driver who has been doing this work for a while would expect an 18% tip. I don't believe it went down this way ShaolinJohn.

Slynk Adink
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I tip because I don't want to be a d**k, but the hard and fast rules about paying a percentage are stupid to begin with. It doesn't take a server at a high end restaurant more effort to do their job than an Applebee's server, so why should I tip them more just because the food is more expensive? The same applies to pizza delivery. It's still one delivery. I get that a $900 order may require a few trips to the car and as such deserves more than your typical 2 pizza delivery, but still is it over a hundred dollars more effort? I don't think so.

Vladimíra Matejová
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

in my country the most probable scenario is she would get exactly2€ as to make the sum round and thats it. 20€ tip souds unreasonable to me. you should really do something with the wages servers and co. get. customers should not pay them. the employer should

Paige McBrearty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here is the issue I see, fast food and pizza delivery type jobs were not made to earn a living on these types of jobs are for high school students and that’s why they pay what they do and should only be minimum wage. They can’t get your order right 1/2 the time anyway! They don’t deserve more money. Now delivery does deserve tips based on their service hense the term ( to insure proper service i.e. TIPS) that’s what it stands for. Fast food chains are now asking for tips on top of asking for more money, for what??? You aren’t coming to my table and serving me and going back and forth like waitstaff who do deserve it. It’s out of hand and I refuse to tip a fast food worker period. This is just out of hand if you want more money get an education and stop asking for more to work a menial high school type job!

Nicole Krenzler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To insure: to compensate for loss ( car insurance compensates your for the money you spent on preparing your car after a crash). To ensure: to make sure something gets done (we checked through our hotel room to ensure we left nothing behind). That makes the acronym TEPS, not TIPS.

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Chuck Burton
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not here to debate whether servers are well compensated or not. A lot of it depends on where they are employed. I know servers that make $200 a day and tips, which is pretty generous compensation for the work they do. I also know people working in construction and other industries that make minimum wage. They work their a*s off all day long for 12 bucks an hour or less. They don't get tips. In either case, these hard-working people can't afford to buy a home or a car on the wages they receive, with their tips are included or not. That's the real problem. And it starts with the government spending more money than it takes in. A subject for a different discussion. As far as I'm concerned, expectation of an 18% tip is not a tip, it's a surcharge. If I dine out, and the server is attentive and friendly, I will leave a 15 or 20% tip. If they are not attentive and friendly, or are rude and indifferent, I don't leave a tip at all, or I'll leave a dollar. Tipping is and should be optional.

Adam L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to deliver for Pizza Hut, got paid regular minimum wage plus tips. Made the mistake of wanting to be a manager, more headaches and less pay then driving because of no tips. But, we all knew which houses never tipped or constantly had "issues" with their food.

Christian Simmons
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just playing devil's advocate but regardless of the negative posts(because miserable people love to be noticed) people earning tips are making way more than they would at a base wage doing menial work like taking an order. No one puts a gun to your head when you know full well that tips are extra when YOU decide to join a service industry. The entitlement that these cats feel are baffling. Many before you had good days and bad days. More good than bad. Fancier restaurants give one person the potential to make more money from one tip from one table than he/she would make in 3 weeks. The expectations these entitled brats have are unrealistic. You are not supposed to STAY in food service for life unless you found a niche market for yourself. Most on avg get out after 2-3 years. Strippers, Escorts, bartenders, and servers can make a helluva lot more from tips than they ever could from base wage. Grow up people!

Cari James
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can’t help but think about how Alot of corporate people especially males with a company credit card like to go to strip clubs and they will tip those dancers the big bucks. There are even some of those men that will be sugar daddies on the companies dime. So my point is is they don’t mind to tip big to a stripper but because the pizza delivery driver was in her uniform ,and let’s face it those uniforms aren’t sexy, and she didn’t go up there and strip after setting everything up for their lunch, why are they gonna worry about tipping her big. I think there is a lot of instances where people expecting tips is wrong. There are certain jobs to where it is expected. They can start paying the delivery drivers more per hour but then they’re gonna raise their prices of the product and then people are going to complain that they’re charging too much. Furniture and appliance delivery drivers make a higher hourly wage and still get tipped. People are gonna complain either which way

Brian G.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heck No! I'm gonna save my Tip money for the better service....the Stripper or Prostitute

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Mike Jones
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The dumb cvnt really expected a $168 tip for delivering pizzas? LOL

Adeline Bennett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of you apparently don't read with comprehension. HE said that's what a 20% would be. Nowhere in the story does he mention that's what she actually expected.

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Mr. C
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly I think 20 dollars is fair and here is why. The tip wouldn't be kicked back to the other staff for one at the restaurant. The second thought that occurs to me is that for some reason food servers seem to be in this magic place in the service industry that they deserve tips but the kid that pumps your gas and in my case a delivery driver for construction material that has to manually unload 1000's of pounds of shingles, or siding, or whatever doesn't get a cent for the effort. A light really needs to be shone on the owner's of the restaurants that are underpaying the staff and expect you the consumer to make up the difference. I would be happier paying more when going out to know that the people that work at the restaurant are getting paid properly. Majority of the time I just don't. When I was younger I worked as a cook and seen how the industry is and moved on to more gainful employment. Since then I try not to support places that expect me to pay their employees for them.

ladyroseeyes
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I delivered for Papa John's in early 2007, federal minimum wage was $5.15, and that's what we got, plus a tiny mileage rate. Sure, gas was a lot less then, but the wear and tear that puts on your car is insane. Plus you have to worry about being attacked by dogs, or mugged for the $20-30 you have in your car. I absolutely relied on tips and worked another PT job that payed $6/hr and I lived with my parents.

Trickster Rickster
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol, to expect tips is so dumb. Tips are optional for excellent service, all she did was delivered a bunch of pizza. Yea that sounds like a 20$ tip to me. Chances are it wasn't their cc, so they had to do cash out of pocket, which f**k no I'm not losing more than 20$ just because my boss is stiff with his money

Scott Ellen
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Recently I found out that in my state...tipped employees are only required to be paid $2.13 per hrs as a wage then the expectation is that top will supplement the rest. Poor kids I mean I personally will tip poorly or not tip if the service is crappy but now I know why it can get crappy.

Magnus Eklund
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US should start a revolution since they always go on about the American Revolution all proud as if their son fought in it. Make it a revolution on the companies, the big chains etc. Only pay 50%of the bill. Hand the rest to the service people and tell them it's their tip. I know a lot of a*****e employers would take that tip from them so those people you line up in the street have shot in the stomache. I think this would change people's minds real quick on tipping. REVOLT!

Valerie Mace
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think on a big order like that should do like restaurants, add the gratuity automatically

Rogue Agent
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to feel bad for fellow Americans getting screwed over. But this is what needs to happen before people get the balls to fix the place.

John doe
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It was a mixed bag for me when I used to do deliveries. Some times I would get big tips for small jobs at a rich persons home then nothing for big jobs or a lot at big jobs. But the average to poor people where always more pleasant to deal with than the rich folks. I guess it all depends on the people and the areas.

Jeff Curtis
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bigger orders have more chance of errors (which usually require the driver to return without compensation). Bigger orders take longer to wait for, check, load and unload. These time drains make 20$ on a huge order equivalent to a mediocre 2$ tip for a regular order. They should have gotten around 50$ but no less than 30$. I'm also annoyed when I read the phrase "Just drove" as if driving isn't inherently dangerous and expensive. The insurance you have to carry is a premium costing double in most cases (if offered at all). Getting mugged/assaulted and in an accident are real threats. Drivers have low to no benefits or retirement so a day shift should make at least 15$ hourly after tips and 25$ after 5pm.

Yvette Schmidt
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Susan Ramak
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But on the other shoe I once went into a restaurant to pick up my order and I paid for it and the waitress ringing the order up gave me the silver for my change but pocketed the bill's I didn't know what to say I just stared at her for a minute then was so ticked off I walked out and called the owner of the restaurant I was like I tip most of the time but when I am picking up my order I don't think so also it would have been different if I had said keep the change but to just automatically keep it with out me saying it was ok was 😠

Terra Kochy
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the people complaining that $168 is more than hourly wage, etc. please LET ME POINT OUT that tomorrow she might make a whole five dollars. When you AVERAGE IT OUT SHE IS NOT GETTING RICH.

Random Anon
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uhh sorry to burst your bubble but it depends on the company. Some companies have bean counters watching these expenditures like a hawk. Yes it could be a corporate card but that doesn't mean the person issuing the payment can do whatever they want.

BCurran
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domino's is two blocks away. It's a 2 to 3 minute drive. I usually pick up pizza myself. If I do have it delivered, no matter if it's 1or 5 pizzas, $3 max. That's a dollar a minute. That's more than I make. Cue scene from Reservoir Dogs.

BCurran
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domino's is two blocks away. If I order one or five pizzas... $3 tip max. Cue the scene from Reservoir Dogs.

Peter Lee
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Question, if the employer isnt paying the employee a decent wage, are the food prices cheaper?

ivan arakachi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I been working as a delivery driver for over 10 y, I always get paid minimum wage and I get to keep the tips, that job is not for everyone if you have a mindset or espuculate to get big tip or small tip based on the amount of the order, just today I delivered a $450 order for Baker Hughes corporation and they only tip $10.00 because the lady on charge said the company can't afford to tip more than that Lol I didn't really care much because I made other deliveries that compensate for the ones that don't, be very conscious about getting tipped, never expect or speculate based on a big house or rich people because you will get disappointed, I always make more money from regular people but I always dress nice and clean, also I talk to them and listen to them and make them feel like they're getting priority service, always be genuine.! I even told my costumers to tip less because I don't want them to think I'm greedy when they order 2 o 3 times a week and I know they usually tip very good

Channo Sagara
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Taking things for granted is the absolutely guaranteed key to disappointment. With that said, US need to stop scamming their customers with seemingly low prices, and just put the exact dam delivery fee on their price list.

EQXL
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"It's time to change tip culture, but in the meantime keep tipping". Yes that's the way to keep thingsbthe way they are. Stop tipping so people stop working because if tips.

paul williams
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I did pizza delivery for PH, and PPJs when I was starting out in life. I knew this was a stepping stone and didn't plan on doing it the rest of my life for sure. I definitely hoped to get tips no doubt, however it wasn't expected it's just nice to get a tip. Most the time it was like 2.00 to 5.00. It never mattered how much I delivered to am establishment. It wqs just minimal. To expect 18% is ridiculous to be honest that has to be a joke. I allways went above and beyond to my patrons as I hoped it would help a little with Mayne getting a tip. Again you don't have to tip for pizza delivery. It's just super nice. I myself now allways tip $5.00. If the delivery is great like a good kind delivery and condiments are given and possible plates I'll add a little more to the tip.

Barbara Gibson
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We do not make minimum wage when on the road only when inside. Sorry for the misinformation but we get a split wagr

ivan arakachi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a Baker Hughes company that orders every week just today I delivered a $450.00 order and they only tip $10.00 because the lady that is in charge of placing the order says the company spends a lot of money on food that they cannot afford to tip, I just laughed I said I hope the money you're saving to this company they compensate you one day because those big corporations when they don't need you they will fired you without hesitation, delivery drivers make minimum wage, I usually don't trip if a costumer doesn't tip because there's a lot of costumer that they tip well and it compensates for the one who doesn't tip I love my job and I been doing it for over 10 years I been able to save money buy a mobile home with a property and you can actually live out of that job if you're good and charismatic, be genuine and don't make yourself look like you're in a rush talk to people be nice make them feel like they're getting priority service, dress nice and clean..! You will see the dif

Lee Mathews
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I delivered pizza in 1998 for little Caesars. I was a sub contractor, I got paid 2.50 fee to take a pizza next door, up to 5.00 fee approx 4 mile radius. While I still relied on tips I was paid well for the time, and didn't have to do dishes answer phones and when it was slow later in the evening I'd be a phone call away while snogging with various cougars at their homes. After moving and delivering for other companies on hourly wage, I was treated like dirt and ended up waiting tables since I felt that I was going to be doing side work anyways and the mileage and maintenance to my vehicle didn't pay off. Yes tipping culture is lame but you can't blame employers entirely it's written into tax code etc Can we all just agree that taxation is theft? No war, famine true economic prosperity and freedom and we all can support a family on a single income should we choose to. That's the collective noncompliance we should be rallying around not moot semantics of minimum wage vs inflation

Kae Temple
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked in a job with tip culture before but it's not like I wouldn't do my job without the tip. You still have to do the job and getting all entitled about how much your tip should be will just ruin your day because yes people should tip. Maybe not 160 dollars but they should but also you can't control if they do or dont or how much it is. It is their choice that's why it's a tip.

Shawn Jones
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tip is added into the total when they placed the order along with the delivery charge hes was lucky to get an additional twenty. Spoiled entitled a*****e. You want better money learn a freaking trade

Misty McCathern
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have delivered pizza before for 3 years. I got paid minimum wage, but had to use my own car, pay my own gas, and insurance. In Texas, if you use a personal vehicle for delivery, you have to have commercial or business insurance which is about $300 per month. That is way too much!! Only a very small percentage of that delivery fee goes to the driver. Most customers thought the whole thing went to us. Out of a $2.50 delivery fee, we only got $0.84 per delivery. Busiest nights were always weekends and Monday Night Football. We depended on those tips to help pay bills and gas and insurance.

Neir Lucan
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a reason rich people and corporations have money. They don't share, they don't help, and they don't care about anyone but themselves.

Alyssia Taylor
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why "iF yOu CaN'T aFfOrD tO TiP, yOu CaN'T aFfOrD tO eAT OuT," makes me so mad. I want to support local/small businesses, but I'm broke too. Most of us can't afford to buy stuff, AND make up for people's wages too. When are people actually going to *do* something about how they're paid instead of just accepting it and expecting to survive on tips? I hate companies for deflecting the bare minimum responsibility of paying their mf employees, but I rarely hear about tipped workers actually pushing for payment standards. I'm totally down to protest, sign petitions, call my local office and/or blast companies on twitter, but where's everybody else?

Jim Flim
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Come on though... I was a pizza delivery driver. First of all delivery drivers are now wait staff. They make more per hour and they don't have to see to the customer's happiness from beginning to end. They make one visit to the customer and they're done. No refilling drinks, no taking the dinners back and getting the diner a new order bc it's too salty or not hot enough. Yes delivery drivers should get tips but def not a percentage of the total price. A flat tip is warranted. 18% for delivering food? The most I ever got was $10 tip and that's bc they were half drunk.

Peta Hurley-Hill
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am Australian ,I don't understand America's tipping system at all. But then minimum wage here is $21.38 ph. We tip maybe at a restaurant ,if the service is super good but it might be like $10-$15 ,it's just a little "thank you". Expecting a customer to pay a $168 tip is crazy! Expecting a customer to basically pay your employees' wages is crazy. If you can't afford to pay your employees a living wage ,you probably can't afford to stay in business.

Martijn Mollet
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We pay multitudes more than 2.13/hr to our servers and bartenders AND our customers tip well. If we paid the equivalent of what they make in tips as salary, we would have to increase our menu prices by at least 25%. All these people that want to blame employers don't understand at all. Tips are written into tax code and employment laws in the USA. Don't blame ALL restaurant owners. Lobby your government if you hate it that much. If you don't like tips move to Europe. My employees would hate you all. They make way more money with tips.

Charles Williams
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Minimum 18% tip. When did they institute a minimum tip amount? I thought you tip how much you want to tip, starting at zero percent and going as high as you choose to. I've been tipped nothing for extremely work intensive deliveries and as much as $200 for a delivery that I thought was fairly simple. The one thing I've never expected was a tip of any amount or a minimum tip no matter how much extra I did for the customer.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To everyone saying that "tip culture" is BS or needs to end, maybe that's true but the solution to that is not hurting the underpaid employee even more. Two main points: 1) Services that staff employees who rely on tips (e.g. restaurants, food delivery, massage, etc.), are all LUXURIES! If you can't afford a tip, why are you having food delivered directly to your house or going to a restaurant? Before the last century, even the mightiest of kings and queens couldn't have food from 15 miles away delivered in 30 minutes! 2) If you're not tipping because you think it's the responsibility of the company to pay a liveable wage (which is certainly true), you're not a cool, "woke" person, you're an A$$hole!

Bitter Sweets
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One day I delivered a big order of 600.00+ order and they are a collage btw and they are tax exempt . I carried single bag that had approximately 6 in every bag and there was 7 bags no help. They gave me 5.00 using my own car.

virgin metal
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

law that maintains the hourly wage (can be as low as 2.75/hr I think?) when a certain amount of your income is tips is what really does it.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was paid $2.13 per hour when I worked on Ocean Drive in Miami Beach. In one year, I was able to afford a two-month backpacking trip in 14 European countries. That said, in the rare case when your tips don't add up to the state's minimum wage, the employer has to pay the difference. If that ever happens, it's time to find a different restaurant.

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virgin metal
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

acknowledging the fact that the law that demands tips is oroborous (?) in nature (if so much of your income is tips you can receive a specific hourly wage) would also be helpful to people understanding the issue at hand. great article call me a fan

Charlene L
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People need to tip period if your getting serviced and it’s a huge order tip appropriately. If you don’t want to tip why not go and get things yourself and be done with it… I’m not saying she needed 168 that’s crazy because this is her job so you can’t expect but anything over 50 would have been nice of them. A random stranger can gift her 50 but not the people she set up for that’s weird.

Paul Richards
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The tip should have been auto priced in very any order over $100

Ed Randolph
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rich people probably figure that they busted their butts off to get where they are and feel everyone else should do the same. They probably had those jobs in college and didn't get tipped either. Most also probably believe that tip paying jobs or minimum wage jobs are for high schoolers and college students and that if an adult is working one then they made some poor life decisions. The people in apartments are probably at the same level of wealth as the delivery driver and empathize with them.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's funny (not ha ha funny), but poor and lower class people always tip better. I worked at a fine French Seafood restaurant in Miami Beach in my 30s. The rich business men always looked at me like I was their worst nightmare. I probably made more money than most of them. 😆

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GadgetGirl
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to deliver pizza. It's a s**t job. The pressure to get there fast is unbelievable. A coworker wrecked two cars in one week trying to make time. (this was before GPS, so getting lost over new developments, construction and bad maps was common) Now, if I order pizza to my house, I tip $10-$15 depending. If the weather is bad, or it's some sort of celebratory evening (school, actual holiday, etc) I tip $15. I've had drivers call me to say thank you. I hate it. I hate that my child's math teacher was our usual delivery person for a few years. For those nonAmericans ... Delivery people are currently paid $2.13 an hour. Minimum wage is about $15. Delivery people are expected to make up the difference in tips. The employers tell them that if they don't make their pay in tips, they weren't nice enough, fast enough, professional enough. Customers are well aware that on a large order, a tip is part of the cost. Most places make it mandatory for this exact reason.

Jim Hynes
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Next time someone who doesnt tip, maybe their pizza drops on the floor once or twice. Or maybe take a really long time to deliver.

Y D
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In case you think it's just a Fight Club joke, if you stiffed any of my servers or generally acted like a c, I assure you your food took a trip past every b******e, nut sack and hoo in the kitchen, with a sprinkle of busser cleavage sweat for good measure. Yep, we did that to you while you obnoxiously ordered consecutive $24 Grey Goose martinis. And if you got worse as the evening progressed, you may not want to hear which sphincter cradled your shot glasses and dessert spoons. DO. NOT. MESS. With people in food service. This is the control we have and we use it. Learn some manners or enjoy your sea bass in baby spinach with a tangy yeast infection reduction. 👍🏼

Thelma Perry
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as a housekeeper when I was younger and I have to defend some of the richer clients. I found the ones born into money were kind, polite and generous. The ones who married into it of otherwise acquired it were the rudest people I ever worked for. It was like I want to let you know I'm better than you now.

Upright Hominid
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get tired of hearing, pay a living wage. I grew up dirt poor and worked crappy jobs that paid nothing as a kid. My solution was to get better educated and get better jobs over a period of years. It took a lot of work. I worked multiple crappy jobs to get better educated and then get better jobs. I repeated this process. I didn't sit around pissing and moaning about how underpaid I was. I didn't expect tips (yes I delivered pizza as one of those crappy jobs) or anyone else to supplement my income. I also didn't expect to make a career out of delivering pizza nor did I expect a huge wage because it's a simple job requiring no skill.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for your useless, condescending, crappy comment. You have added exactly nothing to the conversation. Your attitude is part of the problem.

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Rocky Mom
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From what I've read, I've thought up a conspiracy. The rich are playing the scam. They know amongst themselves to practically not tip or to never tip... and we will keep on paying.*sigh

Melissa M
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good on the guy to help the girl and shame on the jerks that didn’t appreciate her

Chip Gower
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pay a decent wage? That’s not the USA way. Keep the wage slaves in their place, and hire expensive lobbyists to keep those tax breaks coming!

Gary Thompson
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just a tip to food drivers that wonder why they don't get tips sometimes... You don't get your tips The next guy does. Because we have to tip before we get the food. So the tip is based on my experience from the previous time I ordered. If ur mad because you didn't get a tip blame the previous delivery driver. It's the only way we can do. Not our fault. That's how tipping works.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. That is not how tipping works. If you order food to be delivered directly to your door (a luxury service), you can add the tip beforehand or add it after the delivery. You can also change the tip if you're not satisfied with the service up to an hour after completion of the delivery. How do I know this? Because I've worked for UberEats, Door Dash and Post Mates. Punishing the delivery driver because of the previous one is not only unnecessary, it's a sign that you just don't care. Please walk to the grocery store, buy your food items and cook them yourself.

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Josie Gardiner
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Personally I can't understand this tipping culture. Pay your workers properly they work hard enough.. Many people from other countries don't understand this at all. We think if we leave a $20 tip for the waitress then that is enough because they are getting proper wages from their bosses. No tipping needs to end. It's just a way for businesses to rip off their customers and workers. We just don't get it.

Amber V
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Typical tips are 10% so even with that she would've made 93$ from that order. 15% used to be generous, but it's now becoming more the average due to inflation. Either way this woman received a TWO PERCENT tip for her service. Maybe since it was pizza delivery that's why some people are arguing back about it.... But they live off of tips too. And post for their own gas. They do make a little bit more than servers do, but tops are like a couple dollars a piece. Better if you're a woman btw, can confirm this. Had several different men be like "oh you're a woman? Let me get you more money!" Fine by me sir 😂 but either way, a 2% tip on an almost $1000 order is beyond stingy

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've worked both types of service and I can assure you that delivery drivers are paid way less. And as a man, I can also guarantee that men can "work" that tip, too. Women and gay men can be very generous tippers! 😆

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J L
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It seems obvious to most of us that everyone deserves to earn the living wage not guaruanteed by relying on the kindness of strangers but I don't see that changing any time in the near future. That being said, I have been known to grossly "overtip" to make up for customers before me who have either stiffed the server or badly undertipped. In addition to generous tips, I make sure my server knows that they are appreciated and that their hard work doesn't go unnoticed. I have always taught my children that everyone who works that hard deserves our respect and support.

MysticMerman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you. If only everyone could me even just a little more like you, we'd live in a better world.

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Om
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait wait wait. First of all, I hate that tip culture thing, in the sense of employees having to depend on that instead of an actual decent salary. But another thing is, why if she works for Pizza Hut, she has to pay her own gas for the deliveries? Shouldn't that be paid by Pizza Hut? And yeah, of course the $20 tip seems ridiculous for all the effort, but again, why did she have to accommodate everything for them. She should've just left everything at the building's entrance and leave. Having to pay for the gas, having to do that extra work, having to depend on tips, the whole thing just sounds like the worst job she could've found in the world.

Becca Hauck
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not a hard job, it pays pretty well, and she gets minimum wage, mileage for her gas plus tips. I've delivered pizzas. Even large orders aren't hard at all. It's nothing close to working fast food and on a bad night you'll still do okay.

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Corporate stooge
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domino's tips $3 for you to pick up your own food no matter how much you order. So to me that seems to set the expectations for what they expect their drivers to receive per delivery, regardless of the size of the order.

Mahogany Eclipse
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Worked as a waitress once too and its pathetic that 'tip culture' is still being used overall. At least back then, I didn't have the government trying to shove their big, fat noses in to get their tax. And yes, if anyone made a big order and didn't leave a decent tip, they're an a*****e. Plain and simple. They know how this works so don't be freaking greedy about it. I don't care if customers 'arent obliged to tip'. That kind of mentality is apart of the problem, especially when these people KNOW that delivery drivers, etc. rely on tips to survive.

C Reed
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously……I wish everyone would stop calling it “tip culture”. It’s customary to tip. I don’t see why people just can’t admit that they’re cheap and be done with it. Instead; the conversation always shifts to service industry people being lazy, unskilled or stupid. I work downtown; where most of my customers are hotels, offices, apartments and court buildings. So I have to go through security; to the 26th floor and right to your office. It’s not necessarily that I mind, it’s that it seems the people that are telling me what I do and don’t deserve; are usurping a lot of my day and not tipping at all. The half hour wasted on them I could done probably 3 other tip deliveries. I treat all my customers nicely because I enjoy what I do. But to be honest I’m just fed up with the whole “service industry workers need to get a real job” debates. If you really believe that then phase the jobs out.

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ArbysKnight
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"it’s still an unsolved mystery many of us cannot wrap our heads around" It's unregulated capitalism and overwhelming greed.

Invisible Potato
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By tiping you feed the beast whoch caused the problem i sted of letting it starve

MysticMerman
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wrong! You actually feed the beast by participating in the service. Not paying a tip ONLY hurts an underpaid employee and makes you part of the problem. If you want to starve the beast, do it. Don't pretend you're actually helping when you're just a cheap a$$hole.

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Wilf
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know it sounds harsh, but so long as people play along, nothing will change. The reality is the American service-industry business model that throws costs on to employees, and makes employees reliant on tips to make a living is naturally unsustainable. The only way you break that cycle is, as a society, to refuse to play along. This will finally make these jobs unviable. People will be forced to quit. Businesses will go under. Only then, will change happen.

MysticMerman
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is exactly the mentality that is making the problem worse. It's not that difficult to understand. If you don't tip the employees, the corporation is not affected. They will just find another worker to abuse. The right way yo do it is to not use the service. That's simple Economics 101. The truth though, is that, like most Americans, you've become accustomed to using luxury services every day, and you don't want to give them up. It sounds harsh, but instead of pretending like you're helping (You're definitely not), why don't you stay at home and cook your meals so the businesses that provide these services feel the impact. Using them is not "breaking the cycle!" No change will happen under your ill-advised plan.

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Al Christensen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The corporate pizza party was probably a "bonus" for the employees who had been working unpaid overtime all year.

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, that excuses their lousy tip? You know what they say about "Two wrongs", right?

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Nikki Sevven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always tip delivery drivers 15%. For a large order, I'd automatically tip 20%. Given that she carried everything for them and set it up, she deserved 25%. (If you can't afford to tip properly, cook for yourself.)

Mary Rogers
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know why you were downvoted. Here is an upvote. I agree with you. Regardless of the fact that tipping culture may be not be the best system there is no reason to penalize the worker for it. Or downvote people who advocate for tipping the worker well.

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Space Comma
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't tell me you'll pay more for your food if it means you don't have to tip. You're not even hiding how cheap you are and you're not clever enough to notice.

Angel Jones
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't believe the driver only got $20 with a bill that high! I just reread the article. I thought they were trying to say that was a good tip. I get it now. Lousy!

Phil DiLernia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop telling Americans how to live. Worry about your own country. That said, it seems to me that if restaurants make tables of 8 people or more automatically tip 18% then why doesn't the restaurant automatically add a delivery charge of 18% for orders over $100? Problem solved.

Stephen R Hipp
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you are provided a service that is a positive impact on the moment, ie,waitress, and you do not tip? It doesn't matter if it's 7.50 an hour or 75. An hour, you tip. Or do it yourself. Don't be a righteous piece of s**t and lazy,, tip.. or do it yourself

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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AlanandLeila Hoyt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't afford to tip 20%, either to the delivery driver if it's delivery or your waitress if you're at restaurant, you shouldn't order out or go out. My family's worked the equivalent of 2 min wage jobs for a long time and we always tip 20%. If we can't afford it then we don't go. Even if they made a decent wage,

Megan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone complaining about tip culture... Yeah it sucks. And if you don't like it, don't order food. People rely on that money and you're a d*** if you don't tip and tip well.

Travis Pilcher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tipping has been around for a long time in the USA it used to be where the restaurant would hire cute girls to wait on customers and they'd earn tips for their pay but as time goes by things have changed and now a variety of people chose to work in the industry 10 20 years ago servers were banking money earning tips making 300 a night but now this newer generation is making thing difficult because how they view the world news and social media poisoning everyone's minds making everyone focus on people who have money and they look down on the ones who don't and their looking down on the servers thinking it's a poor person's job when actuality it was a banging job awhile back our media has brainwashed this generation badly they are lazy ignorant asses ordering ubereats to bring them McDonald's or a coffee go pick up your own stuff and I believe the ones who are arguing about not tipping are fake just someone who acts like they got it all and will spend 200 on a pair of shoes but won't tip

Tiffany Jasgarszewski
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am so tired of people using that excuse that you didn't know that servers don't make squat an hour. You live in the USA , yu know better Karen, you know and stop acting stupid. These people work their butts off and deserve to be treated way better. And if you can not afford to tip, then Karen stay home and cook.

Tiffany Jasgarszewski
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And that company that made her set up their catering table is BS . NEXT TIME just drop off the pizzas at the front door and bounce. That delivery driver did not have to go set up their little party. She wasn't paid to do that. She did that to be nice. And that Company is trash and should be put on blast. That lazy company employee that made the delivery driver load all of the food on the elevator and set up her party , she should be fired That's was technically her job. They were cheap enough not to pay for caterers and that was not that sweet delivery drivers job to do so. So Technically it was that douche bag lady from the company that needs to be fired for being lazy. They didn't ay for catering , they aid for a delivery. And yes she should have got a $200 tip for doing that lady's job. People need to wake up. And stop saying you don't know servers only get paid $2.13 an hour. These cheap a## people know this but don't care. Tired of that excuse!

Leonardo Kinach
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand the argument of "employers should pay your wage" when actually everything is paid by the costumer. When there is no tipping, the price of the product is increased to adjust for the higher wages. Just cough up the tip if you know the person rely on it. A double Whopper combo is almost 10 euro here in Portugal ffs

Mickey Bugh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Delivered 20+ pizza to the U of Arizona softball team when they came to Seattle. No tip. This s**t happens. Dont worry, kitchen people keep track of these things. If you do something like that, best you dont ever order from us again

Trixi Black
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You people are shite human beings. You think the people not tipping you are the jerks when it's the very people who hired you. Would you do something to their food or are you just a piece of s**t that thinks they can mess with the customer who isn't your employer? Yea, the customers that are keeping the business you work running are the ones that suck and deserve your disgusting animalistic behavior. Not the actual twat who hired you and paid you nothing. Good job. You're the lowest common denominator on Earth.

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Rick Warren
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Interesting how many are saying $168 is a lot for a tip but no one is saying $935 is a lot for one order (delivered by ONE person). How about you tip the person who delivered and set up almost $1000 worth of food for you 20% ...you can dip into the money you saved by being too damn cheap to hire a caterer.

BEST BOOK NETWORK
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but we are losing touch with American customs. At restaurants, in taxis and with respect to deliveries, you are supposed to tip. It exists as a practice to give an incentive for people to HUSTLE. I don't care about European customs. In America you're supposed to tip. The wage laws contemplate this. Let's stop being misers. If you prefer sky high food bills to give everyone that living wage then I think we'll see lots of service jobs disappear and businesses close up. It's the quality of the customers that is the problem. I paid for college with waitering and busboy tips. In my restaurant the 15% was automatically added because someone realized how callous many people were. Nevertheless, we hustled because we knew we had a really good deal. I think it is hard to maintain American customs with so many millions of immigrants flooding in. In other countries people tip poorly. Then they immigrate to America. They import their habits. Plus Americans who know better but who don't care.

Adeline Bennett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry but I'm sick of people whining about "tipping culture". It sucks, yes but in the U.S., this is what it is. When I don't feel like tipping, I don't eat out/order out. Simple.

Brian G.
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have the Greatest Tip!!!! For all residents in U.S on here criticizing the U.S. and I believe I am entitled to give this. As I served 10yrs Active Duty 82nd Airborne with 2 tours in Iraq and 3 in Afghanistan. To hear you demean our country makes me sick and to know much better than gave their lives beside me so you can live in what you are demeaning! You have the f*****g audacity to say how terrible it is! How terrible do you think it is for parents who lost children, spouses who lost their spouse,children who lost parents all so you can have life in U.S. Get The F**k Out!! $120 go online apply for citizenship elsewhere, you know places that you aren't even allowed to voice your opinion!! I will pay your citizenship fees and 1 way flight!! Go,live it up in these other great places. Perhaps somewhere outside Cameroon where they behead you because of your choice of religion and you abortion lovers would love how they take new mothers and cut off their breaststroke so they can't nurse the baby and place the baby in their mothers arms while they bleed out from the beast removal so they can hear the baby cry as it starves and they know it will die with them slowly and they get to listen to it as they die! Just to paint you a Moonbeam,rainbow,shitbag participation trophy loving asses a picture of life outside the U.S. But you now have NO EXCUSES-I'll foot the bill so nothing holding you back-go online like did here and fill out citizenship. See Ya F*****g Lame A*s Pukes!! Your Parents should have Aborted your Weak Crying Asses

Martin Bates
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Overprivilleged c**t could’ve got nothing, f*****g foreigners get off our stolen land

Christina Hoppe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have been a server pretty much my whole working life. I have made better money doing this than I have when I've taken salaried positions to work "normal" hours. There is nothing wrong with tip culture, which is such a stupid phrase. You're just a cheap a*s. If I made oh say $15 and hour and no tips, because the service industry isn't going to pay $30 hourly like you actually make with tips, I would not be able to live and you have no idea the s**t we put up with from people. Stop trying to tell us what a fair wage is because you're a cheap!

Irina Aboumadi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How do you think they got rich? By being stingy. Hate cheap people.

three norns
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"$168 more than a living wage/more than the job is worth" F. U. Where is the labour law dictating the maximum limit on how much a delivery person should earn? I notice no one mentioned a big point: she carried it up and set it up for them. Realistically, she could have (should have!) dumped it on the floor at the security desk. I tip - but i don't do percentage. I first round up to the next multiple of five then I add onto that depending on an arbitrary set of factors. Example: lunch the other day cost $81-something. I tipped to a total of $120. Factors: pretty much anything we wanted on the menu was not available because no supplies. A mixed drink the waitress recommended was gross because my lunch companion suggested a substitute for the missing berry syrup (the waitress didn't know it had run out literally ten minutes ago). The waitress's eyes were red from crying. The food we did get really was excellent.

Love Death
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

R first off if you worried about a tip then you might want to go get another job pay customers don't owe you tip customers don't owe you nothing you chose to pick a low wage dead end job that's your fault you have to pay for your car repairs your gas your insurance cuz company won't pay you decent sorry that's your fault that customer fault customer's don't know nothing

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please don't use a luxury service if you don't want to tip. And if you're going to make nasty comments trying to make yourself look better than other people at "Dead end jobs," you might want to take a writing class. You sound like an uneducated bigot!

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Karen Gladden
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

10% would have been fair. While some make not like tipping, until all employers raise wait staff's wages to a living wage, we need to tip them. Thru rely on those tips to pay their bills. If someone is against tipping, they shouldn't order/go to businesses that force their employees to rely on them.

Brian G.
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only if Ukraine could be here and hear all of these great worries on such an Important topic. They would then see our great striff as well and ask for No More aid from this evil U.S. until Pizza Delivery Gets Tipped

James Sure
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hahaha the entitlement is thick.... fu*k you get a real job. Your lack of skills is not my problem.

Liz Tonks
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You POS. You deserve every spitball anyone has ever put in your food. I'm sure they have.

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Sarah McCann
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She didn’t make the pizzas she delivered them I don’t think she deserves that kind of a tip taking something upstairs the person that made the pizzas deserves the whole tip not her, but the cook gets paid more per hour because they’re doing all the work. they should get away with tips all together as a servers living income but how else would they track all the cash. $20 is sufficient enough for her to drive and take those pizzas upstairs they tipped her appropriately she did not make them.

Sarah McCann
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well first of all she didn’t make the pizzas they deserve the tip not the delivery driver’s, or it should be split between the server and cook’s I think they should do away with servers only making 2.15 hr and incorporate likeFazoli‘s did inside the restaurant back in the 90s when I worked there, The servers got the same amount of money as everybody else in the store guests didn’t have to leave a tip they decided on the service if you got tipped. Not at every server deserves a tip not every server does a good job not every delivery driver does a good job they should do away with it.

Big Bee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

$20 is more than enough for what little work they did. They literally drove around in their car and walked some pizzas to a door. I'm willing to bet that the worker that actually did the labor of making the food in a hot kitchen, made way less than the one just driving around in an air conditioned car.

Joe D'Andrea
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For all those cheap shameless ones who comment the boss should pay them more it's not your problem..smfh if the boss has to pay it's employees more then I would expect the prices on the menu will go up to reflect that. You see where I'm going with this? Now if your entitled lazy self doesn't want to get in the car especially at $5 a gallon or especially cause your pretty friggin lazy..then yeah..you friggin tip. Or pay 2x as much for your garden salad and buffalo wings from now on so the restaurant owner can get you a delivery car with insurance and gas for the lazy people who hate tipping

Nick
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. They already charge an additional delivery fee that pays for all that. Also I'm not tipping 100% of my bill so why would I need to pay 2x for my food to pay their employee better. If 20% tip is all it takes then a 20% max price increase on the menu is all it takes. You need to retake basic math. I would be happy for a 20% increase for never having to tip.

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Love Death
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No maybe these people should go find a real job quit lying on people's tips and we don't get what you want you cry like a little baby this is dead end job for dead end people that has no want no future in life we don't owe you nothing we don't owe you tips we owe you nothing you make that choice

MysticMerman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are a terrible person. Congratulations! Were you born that way or did it take years of practice?

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Thomas Maresh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Best tippers: gay white men. No -tippers: black mothers after church using coupons.

John Hamilton
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you cant/dont want to tip accordingly, then do the work yourself! Lazy people!

Stephen Tharp
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Its usually mullenons(dark complexted) people who dont tip. I cant stand them. They expect great service and youre lucky if they pay at all.

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