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I Traveled To Afghanistan To Show People What It Really Looks Like (40 Pics)
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I Traveled To Afghanistan To Show People What It Really Looks Like (40 Pics)

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I recently traveled around Afghanistan as part of a photography project for which I traveled to all the Central Asian countries. The goal was to show how these misunderstood and unknown countries really look like and how our prejudices stand in the way of connecting with and understanding cultures, religions, countries, and people that are different from us.

A message I find is becoming increasingly more relevant giving the rising tension in the world now that xenophobia and Islamophobia, unfortunately, seem to flourish abundantly once again. The incredible hospitality, authentic interactions and genuine connections we had with the locals changed my perspective, and that of people in my environment, on this side of the world. I hope to continue spreading this message as far as possible.

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The blue mosque in Mazar e Sharif. I felt that at the mosque’s I could really see daily life as it would be without war

Afghanistan has been at war for about 40 years with no end in sight. Images and stories of war and terrorism are generally only information that reaches us through the media about the country. Thus the image we have in our mind of the country is pretty awful of course. You imagine it to be a post-apocalyptic wasteland, with people throwing bombs at each other all day long. It’s not like that all.

On Friday, big groups of families and friends come to the mosque and hang out after the prayer

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Children playing, people snapping away selfies, people laughing; this is how life should be in Afghanistan

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Surprise surprise, not every Afghan is a terrorist who wants to destroy the western world. It is only a small percentage of the population who are extremists and give Muslims a horrible reputation. The majority of the Afghan population does not agree with groups like the Taliban and ISIS at all and don’t even consider them to be real Muslims, because what they are doing is against many rules of the Islam.

And sitting around, chatting over some tea, is a major social component of Afghan culture

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I did not aim to take dramatic pictures of the army in combat with terrorists or the aftermath of a suicide bombing in Afghanistan. Instead, I want to show that life goes on despite the war. Instead, I want to talk about how everybody on the streets, in restaurants, hotels etc. chatted with us and were incredibly proud that we visited their country, how people invited us to their home, how we feasted on delicious food (Afghan kebab rules!), how we got incredibly stoned with the supervisor of the oldest mosque of Afghanistan and how we were greeted with friendly and curious faces everywhere.

A student making use of the peace and quiet of the Herat mosque to study his books

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I think that showing this side of the country produces a much more colorful and truthful image of the country than what is portrayed in the media and that it paints a different picture of the country than only the war. Life in Afghanistan continues and goes on despite all the troubles. People are living their daily life and are just looking for the same things that we are looking for here in the west, which is being happy and being able to take care of and raise your children.

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Especially the younger generation was eager to test out their English with me

Bazaars form the beating heart of a village or city in this part of the world. Perfect to observe local life

The Afghans are a proud, resilient and powerful people. They have been going through so much misery. The least they deserve is that people know how they really are, which is beautiful and warm, and hope that stability will once return to their country. Let’s not forget that beyond the war, the politics and the terrorists, there are millions of people trying to live a normal life. The conflicts across cultures will continue endlessly if we do not change our behavior toward each other. Perseverance in trying to understand one another will ultimately prevail over ignorance and mistreating one another.

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The Kabul bird market is an ancient market, bustling with people in the small alleys and narrow lanes

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Wandering around here feels like stepping back in time about 100 years

People looking for a pet, a trophy or fighting bird come asses and buy the available birds

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This is a worker in the Herat tile factory

Here they still make tiles for the mosques in the traditional way

Unfortunately, there is less and less work for them due to cheap mass produced tiles from China

Smoking hasj is an ancient tradition, that predates Islamic rules, and is quite common throughout the country

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Thijs Broekkamp

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Travel photographer, writer, filmmaker with an preference for underrated destinations. Also avid cheese lover.

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Thijs Broekkamp

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Travel photographer, writer, filmmaker with an preference for underrated destinations. Also avid cheese lover.

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Cathie Fahrney
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The pictures are beautiful, but the lack of women in public is very noticeable

Gipsy Kings fan
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This unequal and unjust treatment of women did not always exist in Afghanistan. In the 1960s and 1970s, Afghanistan made great progress in women's rights. Women attended universities and had good careers. Not only did they not have to cover their faces or heads, they wore miniskirts! Do an online search for "women AND Afghanistan AND 1970s” and you’ll find many articles on this topic. Here are two, from different perspectives: https://raziasrayofhope.org/women-and-girls-in-afghanistan.html https://dangerousminds.net/comments/it_didnt_always_suck_to_be_a_woman_in_afghanistan After the USSR invaded Afghanistan in late 1979, the U.S. began supporting the mujaheddin with billions of dollars in militarily aid for their fight against the Soviets. https://www.democracynow.org/2004/6/10/ghost_wars_how_reagan_armed_the (That’s the whole link, it’s not cut off at the end) This support eventually led to the rise of Al Qaeda.

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Gabriela VK
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

what other commentators have said - it must be an amazing place - for men! women have to be covered, women are not allowed alone anywhere, everywhere you go it's full of men.

Claire White
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only a man could go to a place where 80% of suicide attempts are made by women (BBC), where women get stoned (CNN), where 78% of women believe that going out without telling the husband is justification for beating while 92% in total consider it justified under other circumstances (UNICEF), where female literacy levels are on average 17% (Unesco), come back with dozens of photos of smiling people - sorry, men - and say "Afghanistan is awesome y'all I don't know what everyone's talking about". Embarrassing. He's not just not helping those women by this "journalism", but actually hurting them.

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Taffy Lindley
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the people you pictured happy are MEN ... what does that say? Their women are miserable, their daughters circumcised

Yael
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It should be noted that FGM can (and does) occur everywhere. Including North America.

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J. Foster
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you were a woman you would have had a very different impression of Afghanistan and its culture. You would have been harassed, pestered, and even threatened by these happy Afghan men and boys. I know because I am a woman and I've been there.

Zebwe
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Excuse me if I don't join celebrating how beautiful and normal life is there... except that women are oppressed, beaten, raped and killed regularly with absolutely no consequences

Zebwe
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A little read: 'Why Afghanistan is the worst place in the world to be a woman?' http://time.com/5472411/afghanistan-women-justice-war/

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Gina O'Toole
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So creepy. How did it come to pass that half the population does not exist?

Pierre Carles
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had you been visiting Afghanistan in 1981, THIS is the kind of pictures you would have taken instead: female and male students in the same class, studying computer science. I know I am beating a dead horse here, but if the lack of women in your photographs shows anything, it is how backward this society has evolved in the lapse of the past 40 years, as a consequence of religious extremism (indeed promoted by constant wars). THIS CONTRAST, if anything, is what Bored Panda should have focused upon with this post. Afghanista...138ed9.jpg Afghanistan_1981-5cf6635138ed9.jpg

Taffy Lindley
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All Happy Men with Beaten, oppressed women crying in the background, slaving for them, getting stoned, committing suicide in gas ovens... getting circumcised.... etc... no access to healthcare, virtually property

Restless
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is nothing misunderstood about this Country, I am not sure what you mean by that. We know how they treat women and your lack of photographs showing women enjoying a free life is evident of that.

Mimis Nachbarin
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It can't be said enough: beautiful pictures, I am glad you enjoyed your travel, it is surely an amazing place - but only for men.

John Smith
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By the way, LOVE that in your effort to show how 'prejudiced' others may be regarding Afghanistan .... you could only highlight their backwards and oppressive culture...because that's how it is, whether we like it or not.

pret atva
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only for men. Women cannot admire the intricacies of the mosque design as they have to see through a mesh. The vision wont be clear. In fact they can't see anything outside clearly.

Gaia Campbell
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sucks I see nothing but men. I wouldn't want to go to a place that is majority male. Looks like women are held captive in their homes. I would hate a place that puts so many boundaries on a woman. No wonder you don't see the women. They probably wouldn't smile anyways since they have no real life. It would suck to be a woman in that place. I would commit suicide if I was stuck in that prisoner lifestyle.

Chris Watson
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men , men, men. Thank you for confirming the oppression of women. There is nothing nice about this place. Your photos are ordinary. Don't know why BP bothered with you.

Patricia Duffy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmm, what is missing from these photos? Afghanistan is missing out on a lot by allowing religious intolerance to women existing (except to bear children and do housework and I imagine if the men could bear the children they would get rid of women completely). The women are missing out on and being prevented from having a life.

DKS 001
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

no, not all are terrorists. BUT ... they believe in, and uphold a terrible rape culture. You can see it in the photographs by the lack of women present anywhere.

miki miki
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nothing beautiful here,women as always hidden.Only men enjoying life.Is that how it should be? No way.No agreement for treating women as they were no humans.Yes the most of them dont want to pi photographed as they are not allowed,same as to show their faces.If they do ,they are punished.Please do not tell me anybody would be happy being treated this way.And please dont promote culture and coutries which support such point of view.Religion wrongly understood is harmful and thats exactly such example.

John Smith
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bwaaaaahahaha. Thanks for photographing the men, boys, and the walking sheets.

Tina Hugh
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks for the reminder that “general” photos of “everyday life” can exclude all woman and girls. It’s because we aren’t true members of society, aren’t fully human and/or have no value. Good job. You must be proud.

Jessie Tondreau
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude...what the F?!?! Why do you keep saying "people?" There are MEN in every photo! You have, perhaps, 2 photos of women completely covered and furtive. You've made this place look like some kind of dystopian nightmare...worse then the war zone photos. How? War zone photos make me think, "well, violence begets violence and that's why they're awful to women." THESE photos make it look like life is dandy and the obliteration of women is just commonplace and for nothing! My goodness...I can't believe how tone deaf you are.

Tina B
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A man taking pictures of men. In a land where woman are considered property. Yes, it DEFINITELY is like stepping back 100 years.

miki miki
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And there is more to it in other Muslim countries.Fashionably dressed men ,gathering together,doing what they wish.No respect for wifes , no.place for them in restaurants and other public places.They get what is left from mens table.No life.They cannot pray together and they dont attend Fridays prayers.They just cook clean and get pregnant.This is the real picture.Do not show me colourful tiles .It is not going to cover any real and nasty picture of this culture and religion.

Luis Milian
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's always two sides of a coin. I'm currently in Afghanistan, Bagram and we do not get to see the public due to security and safety reasons. A lot of the locals have been very helpful and allies of the US, they just happen to be invaded by Taliban an al-Qaida.

Yael
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stunning architecture. The lack of women is a tad unsettling and my heart breaks for those poor caged birds at the shuk.

Laugh Fan
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't be too hard on yourself - I'm sure a lot of us have misunderstood something on here initially. I know I have. I've learned quite a few things on Bored Panda. Kudos for being upfront about it.

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Claire White
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only a man could go to a place where 80% of suicide attempts are made by women (BBC), where women get stoned (CNN), where 78% of women believe that going out without telling the husband is justification for beating while 92% in total consider it justified under other circumstances (UNICEF), where female literacy levels are on average 17% (Unesco), come back with dozens of photos of smiling people - sorry, men - and say "Afghanistan is awesome y'all I don't know what everyone's talking about". Embarrassing. You're not just not helping those women by your "journalism", you're actually hurting them.

Coffee
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why everyone is angry at the photographer. He is not responsible for how women are being treated in the country. He only photographed the things he saw. While the treatment of women is really horrible, I don't believe coming after the photographer is in any way helping the situation. If anything, he has started a discussion and he has brought the situation of things to out consciousness.

Victoria Saxon
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember seeing some photos of Afghanistan, prior to any of the non-stop madness, that's been happening there, and I was totally shocked. The pictures were beautiful, but, what really blew me away, was how they were dressed, and what they were doing. In the city areas, and some country areas, most were wearing western style clothes (including the women, who were, also not wearing head coverings at all). Young men and women were swimming, dancing and socialising with no form of restrictions. I also recall seeing young girls at school (mixed sex schools) and they were dressed in uniforms like you would see in the U.K or Australia now etc So, while I do find these photos quite beautiful, to me, they are a VERY stark reminder of how a modern civilisation, has rolled itself back into the dark ages.

Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes it is hearbreaking to see the situation they are in now compared to those times. It was an amazing country in those days, well under way of becoming quite liberal and modern. I wonder if ever it will return, but I'm afraid the situation for now is extremely hopeless.

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Nicole Krieger
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So.. no women in public life. How exactly is this going against stereotypes?

Stuart Maclean
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you wanted to take photos of men, I think it would have been cheaper to go to the nearest gay bar.

passionflower
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Idgaf about those sexist men. What about the women? This is sad...

Delilah Jones
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you to everyone in the comments for not ignoring how horrible the women are treated in these societies. As one commenter said, "It is an amazing place... for men," not women. Also the claim that the civilians only want peace is only partially true. Unless you know the heart of every individual, you do not know what "peace" means to them. To claim they all just want peace (as we know it) makes this an opinion piece where the author is trying to persuade readers to their beliefs, but the information presented is not always factual. To many civilians, peace may mean a different kind of violence and inequality than what is currently in power, and if other civilians who want "peace" had power, they would instate their own version of "peace" which may be nothing better than the current situation, just different.

comboplush
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I came to the comment section to point out that, for a woman, it felt like a glimpse into a world I could never experience in the way you did, and saw that others already pointed this out. It is sad and I feel terrible for the poor women having to live in that country. However, I DO believe that, regarding how that country once was (1970s), people will have the chance to become more progressive, again. I think that this extreme enforcement of ultra-traditionalism is always also a reaction to a world and the system you live in coming to pieces. War, chaos, murder - let's focus on the strict rules of Islam to regain a feeling of control over our lives! Let us (men) at least be rulers of our own households! I truly hope this society recovers. I also recommend reading "Infidel" by Aayan Hirsi Ali to get a glimpse into how politics and extremism are intervowen, and how life is like for women in such a society. It is claustrophobic! But progress can be made and I truly hope it will.

Lauren Caswell
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks you for your explanation, I have been struggling to understand the strong connection between the political mess and regression of women's right. I will be reading infidel to find out more, thanks for the reference

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Robbin Poh
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having a penis and balls is a must have in Afghanistan. Just dun be poor, young, good looking and effeminate too, or you'll become a dancing boy and have to endure regular a**l probing

Milena
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know, I saw some documentaries about this. Horrifying and vile practices, where young men and boys are coerced to become whores to the frustrated women-less adults, they are drugged, made to wear makeup and dance to the drunken crowd, that often turn them over to the police just to cover their asses of the crime. Everyone talking about 1970's Afghanistan... look at it now... why don't we help to stop this violence. Ask our governments to stop the bloodshed and war, and really help this poor, terrorized people regain their hope and freedom!

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Derry Nando
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5 years ago

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Annie Pedneault
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Beautiful pictures ..... but where is the other half of the population .... oooohhh..... I saw one woman wearing a pop tent...

MommaBear
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That beautiful blue mosque is breathtaking architecture. It's a tragedy that it is sequestered away in that hell hole. There are more and more places that a woman (or anyone) will never be able to visit and appreciate because it's too dangerous now.

Sara Chapman
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think it is wonderful that someone went there and took pictures of the happy culture there but i do agree that the amount of women is very sad and shows the darker side of their culture

Just Me
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let me guess the author is a MALE. If a woman tried to do the same visit she would be arrested. or raped or worse.

Jennifer Karr
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the pictures are lovely but like other commentators said, i became more and more uncomfortable as i realized there are absolutely no women in these photos except for the two in the first picture, covered head to toe, escorted by male children. it's difficult to see the 'beauty' in these when that realization creeps up on you.

reagan halphen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where is the rest of the country? This is a very narrow, although beautiful view. The people are resilient and have a joy most westerners would not understand. I say this because most people live in proverty. I would also like to point out that women were not always treated this way, the change came from outside ideology during turbulence. The best way to help them is not moving your mouth (or typing your uninformed, culturally insensitive comments) but supporting schools. Education for all, is the best path to fight inequality.

Noor
Community Member
5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s a man’s World. You should be ashemed to promote such a country.

Saoirse Tadashi
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only thing I do not agree though in afghanistan is their lack of respect for women. They are very unreasonably and horribly mean to them, more like a cultural thing.

Saoirse Tadashi
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well done ❤ thank you for this. As an Asian Muslim, we've been also struggling to make people understand that self-proclaimed 'muslim' terrorists do not entirely represent the majority. It is just a small faction of the community that aims to demoralize Islam because in the first place, their ideals do not coincide with the teachings. I'm afraid this is what the world knows of Muslims, '' violence-loving and women-oppressing '' population 😑

Haleema
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everything looks wonderful but the bird market looks like a horrid place.

Melisa K.
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just wanted to say that I really appreciate what you are trying to achieve here, and I truly hope that one day you come close! It makes me truly sad to read such negative comments. There is already so much f*****g negativity in this world, and here you are just trying to show people that there can be something beautiful even in dark times, yet ignorant and narrow minded people are going out of their way to shut you down. And by using the surpressed woman card ? It is a f*****g weak cop out of an argument, and as narrow minded as one could possibly be. I am actually really frustrated right now lol. Anyways, Im really sorry that people decided to s**t all over this inspirational work, and I wish you all the best in your future photographic endevours! PEACE.

N G
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's interesting to see these photos, it's not really a safe country for most of us to visit, but it needs interaction with the outside world to learn and modernize. It's only been 100years since women couldn't vote in our counties

Rosie Hamilton
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn't about the lack of connection with the rest of the world. Women had rights, could vote (1919 so one year before the US) but these things have been taken away from them and their lives turned to hell. This started from the end of the 1970s. https://www.amnesty.org.uk/womens-rights-afghanistan-history

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Katchen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, this is what EXTREMISM does. Women cannot hold leadership positions in many white evangelical Christian churches in the US, and in some US states rape victims must carry their babies to term. Child marriage is legal in most US states.

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WHY ARE PEOPLE FORCING RELIGION ON WOMEN. ITS THEIR CHOICE

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Rosie Hamilton
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, not without fear of flogging or being stoned to death. The highly oppressive and cruel treatment of women has caused the country to be named as the most dangerous country for women to live in. I think people find it hard to look past such extreme cruelty to the pretty buildings.

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Eagle Girl
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I love religious architecture. The Mosques are so intricately beautiful. So China really has taken over the world even down to the tile makers in Afghanistan. Thank you for sharing Thijs.

Karasi Mills
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These are lovely pictures, it humanizes the people despite the lack of women

Alex Bailey
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It shows the lack of humanity because of the absence of women. Lovely pictures be damned.

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ThymeGarden
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To look at something and figure its worth is to assess.

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Men do have choices to treat women kindly and it's sad that so many commentators assume that the men and boys in the photographs will perpetuate the violence toward women in this culture. Violence towards women is not segregated.

Rosie Hamilton
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the stats show that a very high percentage of women are being abused and/or oppressed then many of these men will be active participants.

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Cathie Fahrney
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The pictures are beautiful, but the lack of women in public is very noticeable

Gipsy Kings fan
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This unequal and unjust treatment of women did not always exist in Afghanistan. In the 1960s and 1970s, Afghanistan made great progress in women's rights. Women attended universities and had good careers. Not only did they not have to cover their faces or heads, they wore miniskirts! Do an online search for "women AND Afghanistan AND 1970s” and you’ll find many articles on this topic. Here are two, from different perspectives: https://raziasrayofhope.org/women-and-girls-in-afghanistan.html https://dangerousminds.net/comments/it_didnt_always_suck_to_be_a_woman_in_afghanistan After the USSR invaded Afghanistan in late 1979, the U.S. began supporting the mujaheddin with billions of dollars in militarily aid for their fight against the Soviets. https://www.democracynow.org/2004/6/10/ghost_wars_how_reagan_armed_the (That’s the whole link, it’s not cut off at the end) This support eventually led to the rise of Al Qaeda.

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Gabriela VK
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

what other commentators have said - it must be an amazing place - for men! women have to be covered, women are not allowed alone anywhere, everywhere you go it's full of men.

Claire White
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only a man could go to a place where 80% of suicide attempts are made by women (BBC), where women get stoned (CNN), where 78% of women believe that going out without telling the husband is justification for beating while 92% in total consider it justified under other circumstances (UNICEF), where female literacy levels are on average 17% (Unesco), come back with dozens of photos of smiling people - sorry, men - and say "Afghanistan is awesome y'all I don't know what everyone's talking about". Embarrassing. He's not just not helping those women by this "journalism", but actually hurting them.

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Taffy Lindley
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the people you pictured happy are MEN ... what does that say? Their women are miserable, their daughters circumcised

Yael
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It should be noted that FGM can (and does) occur everywhere. Including North America.

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J. Foster
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you were a woman you would have had a very different impression of Afghanistan and its culture. You would have been harassed, pestered, and even threatened by these happy Afghan men and boys. I know because I am a woman and I've been there.

Zebwe
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Excuse me if I don't join celebrating how beautiful and normal life is there... except that women are oppressed, beaten, raped and killed regularly with absolutely no consequences

Zebwe
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A little read: 'Why Afghanistan is the worst place in the world to be a woman?' http://time.com/5472411/afghanistan-women-justice-war/

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Gina O'Toole
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So creepy. How did it come to pass that half the population does not exist?

Pierre Carles
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had you been visiting Afghanistan in 1981, THIS is the kind of pictures you would have taken instead: female and male students in the same class, studying computer science. I know I am beating a dead horse here, but if the lack of women in your photographs shows anything, it is how backward this society has evolved in the lapse of the past 40 years, as a consequence of religious extremism (indeed promoted by constant wars). THIS CONTRAST, if anything, is what Bored Panda should have focused upon with this post. Afghanista...138ed9.jpg Afghanistan_1981-5cf6635138ed9.jpg

Taffy Lindley
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All Happy Men with Beaten, oppressed women crying in the background, slaving for them, getting stoned, committing suicide in gas ovens... getting circumcised.... etc... no access to healthcare, virtually property

Restless
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is nothing misunderstood about this Country, I am not sure what you mean by that. We know how they treat women and your lack of photographs showing women enjoying a free life is evident of that.

Mimis Nachbarin
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It can't be said enough: beautiful pictures, I am glad you enjoyed your travel, it is surely an amazing place - but only for men.

John Smith
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By the way, LOVE that in your effort to show how 'prejudiced' others may be regarding Afghanistan .... you could only highlight their backwards and oppressive culture...because that's how it is, whether we like it or not.

pret atva
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only for men. Women cannot admire the intricacies of the mosque design as they have to see through a mesh. The vision wont be clear. In fact they can't see anything outside clearly.

Gaia Campbell
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sucks I see nothing but men. I wouldn't want to go to a place that is majority male. Looks like women are held captive in their homes. I would hate a place that puts so many boundaries on a woman. No wonder you don't see the women. They probably wouldn't smile anyways since they have no real life. It would suck to be a woman in that place. I would commit suicide if I was stuck in that prisoner lifestyle.

Chris Watson
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men , men, men. Thank you for confirming the oppression of women. There is nothing nice about this place. Your photos are ordinary. Don't know why BP bothered with you.

Patricia Duffy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmm, what is missing from these photos? Afghanistan is missing out on a lot by allowing religious intolerance to women existing (except to bear children and do housework and I imagine if the men could bear the children they would get rid of women completely). The women are missing out on and being prevented from having a life.

DKS 001
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

no, not all are terrorists. BUT ... they believe in, and uphold a terrible rape culture. You can see it in the photographs by the lack of women present anywhere.

miki miki
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nothing beautiful here,women as always hidden.Only men enjoying life.Is that how it should be? No way.No agreement for treating women as they were no humans.Yes the most of them dont want to pi photographed as they are not allowed,same as to show their faces.If they do ,they are punished.Please do not tell me anybody would be happy being treated this way.And please dont promote culture and coutries which support such point of view.Religion wrongly understood is harmful and thats exactly such example.

John Smith
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bwaaaaahahaha. Thanks for photographing the men, boys, and the walking sheets.

Tina Hugh
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks for the reminder that “general” photos of “everyday life” can exclude all woman and girls. It’s because we aren’t true members of society, aren’t fully human and/or have no value. Good job. You must be proud.

Jessie Tondreau
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude...what the F?!?! Why do you keep saying "people?" There are MEN in every photo! You have, perhaps, 2 photos of women completely covered and furtive. You've made this place look like some kind of dystopian nightmare...worse then the war zone photos. How? War zone photos make me think, "well, violence begets violence and that's why they're awful to women." THESE photos make it look like life is dandy and the obliteration of women is just commonplace and for nothing! My goodness...I can't believe how tone deaf you are.

Tina B
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A man taking pictures of men. In a land where woman are considered property. Yes, it DEFINITELY is like stepping back 100 years.

miki miki
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And there is more to it in other Muslim countries.Fashionably dressed men ,gathering together,doing what they wish.No respect for wifes , no.place for them in restaurants and other public places.They get what is left from mens table.No life.They cannot pray together and they dont attend Fridays prayers.They just cook clean and get pregnant.This is the real picture.Do not show me colourful tiles .It is not going to cover any real and nasty picture of this culture and religion.

Luis Milian
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's always two sides of a coin. I'm currently in Afghanistan, Bagram and we do not get to see the public due to security and safety reasons. A lot of the locals have been very helpful and allies of the US, they just happen to be invaded by Taliban an al-Qaida.

Yael
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stunning architecture. The lack of women is a tad unsettling and my heart breaks for those poor caged birds at the shuk.

Laugh Fan
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't be too hard on yourself - I'm sure a lot of us have misunderstood something on here initially. I know I have. I've learned quite a few things on Bored Panda. Kudos for being upfront about it.

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Claire White
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only a man could go to a place where 80% of suicide attempts are made by women (BBC), where women get stoned (CNN), where 78% of women believe that going out without telling the husband is justification for beating while 92% in total consider it justified under other circumstances (UNICEF), where female literacy levels are on average 17% (Unesco), come back with dozens of photos of smiling people - sorry, men - and say "Afghanistan is awesome y'all I don't know what everyone's talking about". Embarrassing. You're not just not helping those women by your "journalism", you're actually hurting them.

Coffee
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why everyone is angry at the photographer. He is not responsible for how women are being treated in the country. He only photographed the things he saw. While the treatment of women is really horrible, I don't believe coming after the photographer is in any way helping the situation. If anything, he has started a discussion and he has brought the situation of things to out consciousness.

Victoria Saxon
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember seeing some photos of Afghanistan, prior to any of the non-stop madness, that's been happening there, and I was totally shocked. The pictures were beautiful, but, what really blew me away, was how they were dressed, and what they were doing. In the city areas, and some country areas, most were wearing western style clothes (including the women, who were, also not wearing head coverings at all). Young men and women were swimming, dancing and socialising with no form of restrictions. I also recall seeing young girls at school (mixed sex schools) and they were dressed in uniforms like you would see in the U.K or Australia now etc So, while I do find these photos quite beautiful, to me, they are a VERY stark reminder of how a modern civilisation, has rolled itself back into the dark ages.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes it is hearbreaking to see the situation they are in now compared to those times. It was an amazing country in those days, well under way of becoming quite liberal and modern. I wonder if ever it will return, but I'm afraid the situation for now is extremely hopeless.

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Nicole Krieger
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So.. no women in public life. How exactly is this going against stereotypes?

Stuart Maclean
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you wanted to take photos of men, I think it would have been cheaper to go to the nearest gay bar.

passionflower
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Idgaf about those sexist men. What about the women? This is sad...

Delilah Jones
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you to everyone in the comments for not ignoring how horrible the women are treated in these societies. As one commenter said, "It is an amazing place... for men," not women. Also the claim that the civilians only want peace is only partially true. Unless you know the heart of every individual, you do not know what "peace" means to them. To claim they all just want peace (as we know it) makes this an opinion piece where the author is trying to persuade readers to their beliefs, but the information presented is not always factual. To many civilians, peace may mean a different kind of violence and inequality than what is currently in power, and if other civilians who want "peace" had power, they would instate their own version of "peace" which may be nothing better than the current situation, just different.

comboplush
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I came to the comment section to point out that, for a woman, it felt like a glimpse into a world I could never experience in the way you did, and saw that others already pointed this out. It is sad and I feel terrible for the poor women having to live in that country. However, I DO believe that, regarding how that country once was (1970s), people will have the chance to become more progressive, again. I think that this extreme enforcement of ultra-traditionalism is always also a reaction to a world and the system you live in coming to pieces. War, chaos, murder - let's focus on the strict rules of Islam to regain a feeling of control over our lives! Let us (men) at least be rulers of our own households! I truly hope this society recovers. I also recommend reading "Infidel" by Aayan Hirsi Ali to get a glimpse into how politics and extremism are intervowen, and how life is like for women in such a society. It is claustrophobic! But progress can be made and I truly hope it will.

Lauren Caswell
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks you for your explanation, I have been struggling to understand the strong connection between the political mess and regression of women's right. I will be reading infidel to find out more, thanks for the reference

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Robbin Poh
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having a penis and balls is a must have in Afghanistan. Just dun be poor, young, good looking and effeminate too, or you'll become a dancing boy and have to endure regular a**l probing

Milena
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know, I saw some documentaries about this. Horrifying and vile practices, where young men and boys are coerced to become whores to the frustrated women-less adults, they are drugged, made to wear makeup and dance to the drunken crowd, that often turn them over to the police just to cover their asses of the crime. Everyone talking about 1970's Afghanistan... look at it now... why don't we help to stop this violence. Ask our governments to stop the bloodshed and war, and really help this poor, terrorized people regain their hope and freedom!

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Annie Pedneault
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Beautiful pictures ..... but where is the other half of the population .... oooohhh..... I saw one woman wearing a pop tent...

MommaBear
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That beautiful blue mosque is breathtaking architecture. It's a tragedy that it is sequestered away in that hell hole. There are more and more places that a woman (or anyone) will never be able to visit and appreciate because it's too dangerous now.

Sara Chapman
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think it is wonderful that someone went there and took pictures of the happy culture there but i do agree that the amount of women is very sad and shows the darker side of their culture

Just Me
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let me guess the author is a MALE. If a woman tried to do the same visit she would be arrested. or raped or worse.

Jennifer Karr
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the pictures are lovely but like other commentators said, i became more and more uncomfortable as i realized there are absolutely no women in these photos except for the two in the first picture, covered head to toe, escorted by male children. it's difficult to see the 'beauty' in these when that realization creeps up on you.

reagan halphen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where is the rest of the country? This is a very narrow, although beautiful view. The people are resilient and have a joy most westerners would not understand. I say this because most people live in proverty. I would also like to point out that women were not always treated this way, the change came from outside ideology during turbulence. The best way to help them is not moving your mouth (or typing your uninformed, culturally insensitive comments) but supporting schools. Education for all, is the best path to fight inequality.

Noor
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s a man’s World. You should be ashemed to promote such a country.

Saoirse Tadashi
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only thing I do not agree though in afghanistan is their lack of respect for women. They are very unreasonably and horribly mean to them, more like a cultural thing.

Saoirse Tadashi
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well done ❤ thank you for this. As an Asian Muslim, we've been also struggling to make people understand that self-proclaimed 'muslim' terrorists do not entirely represent the majority. It is just a small faction of the community that aims to demoralize Islam because in the first place, their ideals do not coincide with the teachings. I'm afraid this is what the world knows of Muslims, '' violence-loving and women-oppressing '' population 😑

Haleema
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everything looks wonderful but the bird market looks like a horrid place.

Melisa K.
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just wanted to say that I really appreciate what you are trying to achieve here, and I truly hope that one day you come close! It makes me truly sad to read such negative comments. There is already so much f*****g negativity in this world, and here you are just trying to show people that there can be something beautiful even in dark times, yet ignorant and narrow minded people are going out of their way to shut you down. And by using the surpressed woman card ? It is a f*****g weak cop out of an argument, and as narrow minded as one could possibly be. I am actually really frustrated right now lol. Anyways, Im really sorry that people decided to s**t all over this inspirational work, and I wish you all the best in your future photographic endevours! PEACE.

N G
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's interesting to see these photos, it's not really a safe country for most of us to visit, but it needs interaction with the outside world to learn and modernize. It's only been 100years since women couldn't vote in our counties

Rosie Hamilton
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn't about the lack of connection with the rest of the world. Women had rights, could vote (1919 so one year before the US) but these things have been taken away from them and their lives turned to hell. This started from the end of the 1970s. https://www.amnesty.org.uk/womens-rights-afghanistan-history

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Katchen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, this is what EXTREMISM does. Women cannot hold leadership positions in many white evangelical Christian churches in the US, and in some US states rape victims must carry their babies to term. Child marriage is legal in most US states.

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Mrs. McCHUBS
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WHY ARE PEOPLE FORCING RELIGION ON WOMEN. ITS THEIR CHOICE

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Rosie Hamilton
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, not without fear of flogging or being stoned to death. The highly oppressive and cruel treatment of women has caused the country to be named as the most dangerous country for women to live in. I think people find it hard to look past such extreme cruelty to the pretty buildings.

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Eagle Girl
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I love religious architecture. The Mosques are so intricately beautiful. So China really has taken over the world even down to the tile makers in Afghanistan. Thank you for sharing Thijs.

Karasi Mills
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These are lovely pictures, it humanizes the people despite the lack of women

Alex Bailey
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It shows the lack of humanity because of the absence of women. Lovely pictures be damned.

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ThymeGarden
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To look at something and figure its worth is to assess.

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Men do have choices to treat women kindly and it's sad that so many commentators assume that the men and boys in the photographs will perpetuate the violence toward women in this culture. Violence towards women is not segregated.

Rosie Hamilton
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the stats show that a very high percentage of women are being abused and/or oppressed then many of these men will be active participants.

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