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“They Want To Sue Me Now”: Photographer Doesn’t Show Up To Wedding
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“They Want To Sue Me Now”: Photographer Doesn’t Show Up To Wedding

“Couple Hired Me As A Photographer At Their Wedding And I Didn’t Show. They Want To Sue Me Now”Wedding Photographer Doesn’t Show Up, Asks For Legal Advice After Newlyweds Threaten To Sue“They Ignored Me For 3 Days”: Wedding Photographer In Hot Water For Not Showing UpCouple Want To Sue Photographer Who Skipped On Their WeddingPhotographer Agrees To Shoot A Wedding For $80, Drama Ensues When They Fail To Show UpPhotographer Can’t Afford A Ride To The Wedding, Blocks Couple And Doesn’t Show UpInexperienced Photographer Signs A Contract For Wedding Shoot But Doesn't Show Up, Couple LividPhotographer In Trouble After Failing To Shoot A Wedding Because They Could Not Get A RideCouple Hire A Photographer For Their Wedding For $80, He Doesn't Show Up Because Of A Storm
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Doing business as a freelancer or a self-employed person comes with a lot of freedom, but equally a lot of risk. From dealing with hostile clients to understanding taxes and complex contracts, there is little room for error and a lot of things that can go wrong.

A netizen reached out to the internet for advice after being hired as a wedding photographer and then not showing up. Netizens shared some advice and harsh truths with the photographer. We reached out to the person who posted the story via private message and we will update the article when they get back to us.

Not showing up is a pretty bad thing to do if someone has hired you for a job

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But one photographer wanted legal advice after the wedding they were working on kept changing locations

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Contracts are important even if we don’t always read them

While this person was right to reach out for legal advice, the reality is that they might need a proper lawyer in this case. As many of the commenters noted, a contract is a contract, not something one can just break easily and without repercussions. After all, if we treated contracts as mere “suggestions,” large segments of society would fall apart quickly.

Interestingly, humans have been using contracts roughly since some of our ancestors stopped being hunter-gatherers and started practicing agriculture. After all, growing and harvesting crops takes time, months even, so there already was a need to make commitments for work, payment and food.

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Similarly, verbal agreements might be ok with a trusted friend or family member, but with a stranger, it can easily turn into a case of he-said, she-said, with no way of ascertaining the truth. We have records of Sumerian contracts that are over six thousand years old, covering things like the sale of land and a house.

Most legal systems from then on had ample laws and regulations around how to draw up contracts and the responsibilities of both parties. Indeed, while you might not be staring at paperwork every single day, if you have a “real” job, chances are you’ve signed a contract. The same is true for any lease, loan, rental agreement and really anything else.

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If you agree to something, it’s important to follow through

This is all to say that many of us, like this photographer, have perhaps gotten a bit too comfortable with assuming contracts are just some formality. Most of us don’t perhaps read through a contract for “simple” things when switching apartments or starting a new job, but this story should be a reminder of why that is quite important.

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Because, as many of the commenters note, the photographer did agree and sign the document. Yes, the “happy couple” changed locations so frequently, but there was an understanding that the wedding would be held further away from the photographer. It’s not unreasonable to assume someone you hire can actually transport themselves. The conditions and pay weren’t great, but the photographer had free will and wasn’t under duress when they decided to agree.

After all, you wouldn’t sign on to do a job you weren’t actually capable of doing. If the couple had offered to organize transportation then didn’t handle it, the photographer would be off the hook. Unfortunately, this is going to have to be a learning moment for them. It might cost a bit, but better learn this lesson now and not in the future when the penalties might be a lot higher.

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Boy-Ahn
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. The OP took some photos once, borrowed a camera, accepted a ridiculous offer, had no transportation, failed to show up, and was surprised to hear there were no other photographers at the wedding? That's taking being a moron to a whole new level.

CanadianDimes
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed. The couple said they were taking a chance on OP and they certainly were - and one that didn’t pay off

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Bexxxx
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ooof. Rock and a hard place. While I certainly empathize with OP, they should have kept reaching out to the couple when they knew they couldn’t make it. It really sucks the husband couldn’t be bothered to check his messages when it was about something as important as the wedding, but……OP did sign a contract. I would have texted and called several times a day until I reached them. But the couple sound pretty unreasonable too. ESH, but I’d rather take OP out for a coffee than the wedding couple.

John Harrison
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... especially since OP wont show up and you only have to buy coffee for yourself.

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Pittsburgh rare
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both sides sound like utter idiots. Hiring an inexperienced photographer for $80 is idiotic. Signing a contract without understanding it is idiotic. Both sides should take their losses and learn the lesson.

Carl Roberts
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, he should never have accepted the job. That's on him. BUT...they BOTH agreed to a new location. He has the text messages to prove that. Then they changed it again at the last minute. That's on the couple. Also, as others pointed out, if the wanted to lowball a photographer for $80, they likely cant afford a lawyer. But....everyone is ignoring the fact that the couple is now harassing him publicly on social media and trying to ruin his life. If they do try to sue him, he has proof of the constant harassment. This would backfire on them.

the sixthgirl
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sad that the couple thinks not having a photographer "ruined" their wedding. Huge disappointment, yes, but photos are significantly less important than the life you create together.

DrBronxx
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP shot themselves in the foot, and the bride and groom are bride-and-groom-zillas. Sure, they didn't have a professional photographer there (you could argue that would still be the case [in spirit] if OP had been there), but almost every single person at that wedding would have had a phone. With smartphone cameras as they are, they could have got some great photos. Nothing was "ruined", because it was a fixable problem.

Bobby
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can see both sides here to a degree, but it's OP's integrity on the line. If I were in the same boat I would have been damn near harassment level of calling and texting to get a confirmation that they acknowledge that I couldn't coordinate with a 3 day heads up on venue change number 2. A string of multiple daily calls and texts showing honest effort to inform you couldn't accommodate that would be very useful if they did sue

Shane P
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We’re suing people for $80 now? Everyone in this scenario sounds terrible.

similarly
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The signed contract is legally binding. The email changing the venue and then changing it back is, at best, a verbal agreement. There's really no point in hiring a lawyer. I mean MAYBE a judge might rule that the email correspondence resulted in the photographer losing their ability to make it to the venue. Honestly, the photographer should never have taken the job.

Mike m
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People have photographer contracts just laying around, apparently.

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Julia H
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an avid People's Court fan, disagree. The minute the couple changed the location, they breached the contract. OP agreed to the new location. Changing it back, to me, is another breach. OP agreed to the new location and his ride left him without transportation. OP and his ride relyed on the couple to both their detriment.

TwoBlackEyes
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When the couple changed the location the second time, OP did not agree to it. The couple breached the contract. The couple should pay him $80. Plus, the photographer should sue them for smearing him and using his photo without conscent on social media.

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Momogi
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what happened when you are trying to be cheap and hired someone unprofessional.

Michael Largey
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By the time this would get to a court there's a very good chance that those two bleeps will no longer be married.

Hakitosama
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah and the judge would be like : "you're wasting my time for THIS ? Op, pay them back the 80€/$/£ and let's all move on I've got better things to do than petty bickering between cheapskates and brat playing pro. NEXT!"

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Gwyn
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP should never have agreed to do this job if they couldn't afford independent transportation. However, I don't believe the couple have very good claims for damages. In the age of smart phones there are probably thousands of pictures they can get from guests. And if they are hiring a photographer for only $80 who hasn't photographed a wedding before, how good could those photos possibly be? Many of the smart phone photos would probably have turned out better.

Oni
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to write online articles for money and my worst gigs were with people that couldn't afford or didn't want to pay an honest price. I'd never do it again.

Mike m
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It was such an important day but they went with the inexperienced guy.

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marco
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA They changed the place, you agreed, so both sides agreed on a change of the contract. Then they changed mind and asked to change the contract again and this request was declined, according my undrstanding of law they can be happy if they don't have to pay the 80$, they broke the contract. In addition, the public blaming is illegal, so if they try to sue OP he should instantly sue them.

Bob Brooce
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only saving grace is the canceled change to a different location, but there's better be record of it. If the location had never changed the poster would definitely be an a*****e, and the loser in a court case. The change and then only 3 days notice that he'll need to change plans (again) may save his a*s at trial.

similarly
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the problem is that the signed contract is legally binding. email messages are a verbal agreement at best. It might have bearing on the case, but depends on the judge.

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Brandon Marshall
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1. He’s supposed to charge more being that he gas experince operating a camera( which isn’t easy). 2. He should’ve been the one sending the contract or at least look over theirs. 3. He gave proper notice and “I was busy” is not an excuse from a client that truly wants to reserve your services. 4. They know they were wrong ut seem alike they didnt gave the proper budget but still wanted quality work done, the was trying to f em over from the start.

TwoBlackEyes
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the location is in the contract, then it cannot be changed at will -- both parties need to agree to the change. Otherwise, what's the point of putting the location in the contract? So when the couple changed it the first time and the photographer agreed, they had effectively signed a new contract using the new location. But when the couple changed it the second time, the photographer didn't agree to it, and it is the couple who needed to confirm that the photographer agree to it, the photographer did not have an obligation to chase down the couple to tell them he didn't agree. Therefore, the 2nd contract still stand and the couple breached the contract. In addition, the photographer can sue the couple for smearing him, and for using his photo without consent. The OP should win this case.

Upstaged75
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I doubt they will actually go through with suing him. It's just threats because they're mad. They're also stupid for thinking that $80 was enough to get good quality pics of the wedding. You get what you pay for - he had NO experience, why would they even hire him? Unfortunately the "photog" sounds a bit uneducated and gullible. I understand he was desperate for money, but this whole story is crazy.

Amused panda
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whilst from a legal defence of potential claim point of view, the wording of the contract and payment terms are key here (if they just used something which said that they agreed to pay $80 on receipt of digital copies, it would be different to if they'd covered last minute/unforeseen venue changes, and failure to provide the contracted service), it was s****y of OP to send one text to say he couldn't provide the service and not ensure they'd seen it. If he really thought he'd not heard from them because they'd found another photographer in the 3 days before the wedding, he was lying to himself.

Ruth Watry
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once they changed the location, they essentially broke the contract, and once a contract is broken. You agreed to the first modification (near your home). When they changed their mind, they broke that modification, and you did not accept their next offer (old location)

Annie
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH, but I'm probably more on the side of the amateur photographer because (a) the couple expected champagne wedding photographs on a Keystone beer budget, and then made him sign a contract for an $80 job? (b) The couple had no backup plan & then flaked on changing the location & then changing it back, and (c) harassing him & having their friends harass him is just unacceptable

Fat Harry (Oi / You)
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This idiot should never have taken the job in the first place. He lacks equipment, qualification, experience, travel... virtually everything about this says "no", just just saw it as a way to make a few quid and it backfired.

J. Oliver Scott
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So they can afford an attorney willing to file a frivolous lawsuit but not afford a professional photographer for their wedding? I doubt anything would come of their threats but if so OP can cite the first change of venue as violating/ voiding the contract and that should settle that.

H. B. Nielsen
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is all bad here, but the husband's weak a*s "I didn't check my messages" excuse is pretty embarrassing when you're making threats to sue. Oh yeah your honor I change plans around more than my underwear, but I'm the victim! Only I may break the contract you see. I just so highly doubt there was language in his crayon written contract that mentioned they can change around the venue. No way.

Game Guy
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bride-and-groomzilla were gonna sue him anyway. There's no way this guy knows what he's doing. The photos were going to suck and he'd have been sued for that if he'd showed up.

Pamela Blue
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hell, I'm not a photographer at all, yet I'd charge more than $80 for a wedding, if I dared to try it. Both these parties deserve all they get. They were so cheap they picked a charlatan as a photographer, and lost out on their wedding pictures (I'm sure relatives and friends made up for it) and the OP charlatan deserves to be sued. Neither party will get satisfaction, I should think.

Livingwithcfs
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP deserves everything coming his way. He signed a contract, he agreed to the terms... yes they low balled on cost and failed to do a proper check on him. But he knew he was borrowing a camera, had only done part time work in photography in the past (sounds like he wasn't a clear as he should have been there), and he had no reliable transportation. Canceling via txt message last minute is not good enough. I hope the couple take him to small claims, because although I don't think they'll get what they want at least it'll teach the OP a lesson about signing contracts and what not to do. He's an idiot

Carney
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP brought this on themselves. Apparently, the OP didn't even own a camera and had to borrow one; never had a contract that included language that would protect them in case of changes due to weather or other factors and didn't even have reliable transportation. I'm a photographer, albeit not weddings. Yet, when I go on assignment I already know what the client wants, what factors come into play, what the work will entail and what backups I need to have. I also am covered should the client change their mind (happens a lot!) The client is covered should I fail to fulfill the terms of the contract. Sorry, but OP you need to decide whether you want to be serious about being a photographer or find another hobby that does not include taking on jobs you are not prepared to fulfill. 100% on the side of the married couple. I suspect they have a fairly decent case for small claims court.

Boy-Ahn
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. The OP took some photos once, borrowed a camera, accepted a ridiculous offer, had no transportation, failed to show up, and was surprised to hear there were no other photographers at the wedding? That's taking being a moron to a whole new level.

CanadianDimes
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed. The couple said they were taking a chance on OP and they certainly were - and one that didn’t pay off

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Bexxxx
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ooof. Rock and a hard place. While I certainly empathize with OP, they should have kept reaching out to the couple when they knew they couldn’t make it. It really sucks the husband couldn’t be bothered to check his messages when it was about something as important as the wedding, but……OP did sign a contract. I would have texted and called several times a day until I reached them. But the couple sound pretty unreasonable too. ESH, but I’d rather take OP out for a coffee than the wedding couple.

John Harrison
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... especially since OP wont show up and you only have to buy coffee for yourself.

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Pittsburgh rare
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both sides sound like utter idiots. Hiring an inexperienced photographer for $80 is idiotic. Signing a contract without understanding it is idiotic. Both sides should take their losses and learn the lesson.

Carl Roberts
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, he should never have accepted the job. That's on him. BUT...they BOTH agreed to a new location. He has the text messages to prove that. Then they changed it again at the last minute. That's on the couple. Also, as others pointed out, if the wanted to lowball a photographer for $80, they likely cant afford a lawyer. But....everyone is ignoring the fact that the couple is now harassing him publicly on social media and trying to ruin his life. If they do try to sue him, he has proof of the constant harassment. This would backfire on them.

the sixthgirl
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sad that the couple thinks not having a photographer "ruined" their wedding. Huge disappointment, yes, but photos are significantly less important than the life you create together.

DrBronxx
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP shot themselves in the foot, and the bride and groom are bride-and-groom-zillas. Sure, they didn't have a professional photographer there (you could argue that would still be the case [in spirit] if OP had been there), but almost every single person at that wedding would have had a phone. With smartphone cameras as they are, they could have got some great photos. Nothing was "ruined", because it was a fixable problem.

Bobby
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can see both sides here to a degree, but it's OP's integrity on the line. If I were in the same boat I would have been damn near harassment level of calling and texting to get a confirmation that they acknowledge that I couldn't coordinate with a 3 day heads up on venue change number 2. A string of multiple daily calls and texts showing honest effort to inform you couldn't accommodate that would be very useful if they did sue

Shane P
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We’re suing people for $80 now? Everyone in this scenario sounds terrible.

similarly
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The signed contract is legally binding. The email changing the venue and then changing it back is, at best, a verbal agreement. There's really no point in hiring a lawyer. I mean MAYBE a judge might rule that the email correspondence resulted in the photographer losing their ability to make it to the venue. Honestly, the photographer should never have taken the job.

Mike m
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People have photographer contracts just laying around, apparently.

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Julia H
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an avid People's Court fan, disagree. The minute the couple changed the location, they breached the contract. OP agreed to the new location. Changing it back, to me, is another breach. OP agreed to the new location and his ride left him without transportation. OP and his ride relyed on the couple to both their detriment.

TwoBlackEyes
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When the couple changed the location the second time, OP did not agree to it. The couple breached the contract. The couple should pay him $80. Plus, the photographer should sue them for smearing him and using his photo without conscent on social media.

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Momogi
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what happened when you are trying to be cheap and hired someone unprofessional.

Michael Largey
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By the time this would get to a court there's a very good chance that those two bleeps will no longer be married.

Hakitosama
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah and the judge would be like : "you're wasting my time for THIS ? Op, pay them back the 80€/$/£ and let's all move on I've got better things to do than petty bickering between cheapskates and brat playing pro. NEXT!"

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Gwyn
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP should never have agreed to do this job if they couldn't afford independent transportation. However, I don't believe the couple have very good claims for damages. In the age of smart phones there are probably thousands of pictures they can get from guests. And if they are hiring a photographer for only $80 who hasn't photographed a wedding before, how good could those photos possibly be? Many of the smart phone photos would probably have turned out better.

Oni
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to write online articles for money and my worst gigs were with people that couldn't afford or didn't want to pay an honest price. I'd never do it again.

Mike m
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It was such an important day but they went with the inexperienced guy.

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marco
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA They changed the place, you agreed, so both sides agreed on a change of the contract. Then they changed mind and asked to change the contract again and this request was declined, according my undrstanding of law they can be happy if they don't have to pay the 80$, they broke the contract. In addition, the public blaming is illegal, so if they try to sue OP he should instantly sue them.

Bob Brooce
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only saving grace is the canceled change to a different location, but there's better be record of it. If the location had never changed the poster would definitely be an a*****e, and the loser in a court case. The change and then only 3 days notice that he'll need to change plans (again) may save his a*s at trial.

similarly
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the problem is that the signed contract is legally binding. email messages are a verbal agreement at best. It might have bearing on the case, but depends on the judge.

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Brandon Marshall
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1. He’s supposed to charge more being that he gas experince operating a camera( which isn’t easy). 2. He should’ve been the one sending the contract or at least look over theirs. 3. He gave proper notice and “I was busy” is not an excuse from a client that truly wants to reserve your services. 4. They know they were wrong ut seem alike they didnt gave the proper budget but still wanted quality work done, the was trying to f em over from the start.

TwoBlackEyes
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the location is in the contract, then it cannot be changed at will -- both parties need to agree to the change. Otherwise, what's the point of putting the location in the contract? So when the couple changed it the first time and the photographer agreed, they had effectively signed a new contract using the new location. But when the couple changed it the second time, the photographer didn't agree to it, and it is the couple who needed to confirm that the photographer agree to it, the photographer did not have an obligation to chase down the couple to tell them he didn't agree. Therefore, the 2nd contract still stand and the couple breached the contract. In addition, the photographer can sue the couple for smearing him, and for using his photo without consent. The OP should win this case.

Upstaged75
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I doubt they will actually go through with suing him. It's just threats because they're mad. They're also stupid for thinking that $80 was enough to get good quality pics of the wedding. You get what you pay for - he had NO experience, why would they even hire him? Unfortunately the "photog" sounds a bit uneducated and gullible. I understand he was desperate for money, but this whole story is crazy.

Amused panda
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whilst from a legal defence of potential claim point of view, the wording of the contract and payment terms are key here (if they just used something which said that they agreed to pay $80 on receipt of digital copies, it would be different to if they'd covered last minute/unforeseen venue changes, and failure to provide the contracted service), it was s****y of OP to send one text to say he couldn't provide the service and not ensure they'd seen it. If he really thought he'd not heard from them because they'd found another photographer in the 3 days before the wedding, he was lying to himself.

Ruth Watry
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once they changed the location, they essentially broke the contract, and once a contract is broken. You agreed to the first modification (near your home). When they changed their mind, they broke that modification, and you did not accept their next offer (old location)

Annie
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH, but I'm probably more on the side of the amateur photographer because (a) the couple expected champagne wedding photographs on a Keystone beer budget, and then made him sign a contract for an $80 job? (b) The couple had no backup plan & then flaked on changing the location & then changing it back, and (c) harassing him & having their friends harass him is just unacceptable

Fat Harry (Oi / You)
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This idiot should never have taken the job in the first place. He lacks equipment, qualification, experience, travel... virtually everything about this says "no", just just saw it as a way to make a few quid and it backfired.

J. Oliver Scott
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So they can afford an attorney willing to file a frivolous lawsuit but not afford a professional photographer for their wedding? I doubt anything would come of their threats but if so OP can cite the first change of venue as violating/ voiding the contract and that should settle that.

H. B. Nielsen
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is all bad here, but the husband's weak a*s "I didn't check my messages" excuse is pretty embarrassing when you're making threats to sue. Oh yeah your honor I change plans around more than my underwear, but I'm the victim! Only I may break the contract you see. I just so highly doubt there was language in his crayon written contract that mentioned they can change around the venue. No way.

Game Guy
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bride-and-groomzilla were gonna sue him anyway. There's no way this guy knows what he's doing. The photos were going to suck and he'd have been sued for that if he'd showed up.

Pamela Blue
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hell, I'm not a photographer at all, yet I'd charge more than $80 for a wedding, if I dared to try it. Both these parties deserve all they get. They were so cheap they picked a charlatan as a photographer, and lost out on their wedding pictures (I'm sure relatives and friends made up for it) and the OP charlatan deserves to be sued. Neither party will get satisfaction, I should think.

Livingwithcfs
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP deserves everything coming his way. He signed a contract, he agreed to the terms... yes they low balled on cost and failed to do a proper check on him. But he knew he was borrowing a camera, had only done part time work in photography in the past (sounds like he wasn't a clear as he should have been there), and he had no reliable transportation. Canceling via txt message last minute is not good enough. I hope the couple take him to small claims, because although I don't think they'll get what they want at least it'll teach the OP a lesson about signing contracts and what not to do. He's an idiot

Carney
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP brought this on themselves. Apparently, the OP didn't even own a camera and had to borrow one; never had a contract that included language that would protect them in case of changes due to weather or other factors and didn't even have reliable transportation. I'm a photographer, albeit not weddings. Yet, when I go on assignment I already know what the client wants, what factors come into play, what the work will entail and what backups I need to have. I also am covered should the client change their mind (happens a lot!) The client is covered should I fail to fulfill the terms of the contract. Sorry, but OP you need to decide whether you want to be serious about being a photographer or find another hobby that does not include taking on jobs you are not prepared to fulfill. 100% on the side of the married couple. I suspect they have a fairly decent case for small claims court.

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