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Person Considers Bailing On Brother’s Wedding After He And His Fiancée’s “Slap In The Face”
Person Considers Bailing On Brother’s Wedding After He And His Fiancée’s “Slap In The Face”
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Person Considers Bailing On Brother’s Wedding After He And His Fiancée’s “Slap In The Face”

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Weddings can be an exciting time for a family, but I think we can agree that they come with their fair share of stress. The guestlist is sometimes one of the biggest bones of contention – especially when there’s already trouble brewing between certain family members. As they say, it just isn’t possible to please all the people all the time. But it’s worth a try.

A person recently shared how they were left “stunned” after hearing that their wife wasn’t invited to their brother’s wedding. The bride has beef with her, and wants the person to come alone. When they raised this with the family, they were told to stop being dramatic, keep the peace and attend solo. They’re now torn between standing by their wife or being there for their brother. Bored Panda spoke to psychotherapist, author and speaker Dr. Anna Mathur about how to navigate complicated relationships with extended family.

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    But one bride totally snubbed her future BIL’s wife by excluding her from the big day altogether

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    “Put your marriage first and present a united front”: the experts advise 

    It is said that when you marry someone, you marry their family. And as we know, many marriages have their fair share of problems. Needless to say, it’s not uncommon to face issues with in-laws, or future in-laws, and this extends beyond the parents-in-law.

    “Difficult in-law relationships are incredibly common because they often involve differences in personalities, values, expectations, and boundaries,” Dr. Anna Mathur tells Bored Panda when we reach out to her. Mathur is a renowned expert in the field of psychotherapy and has clocked up over 225k followers on Instagram.

    The award-winning author says navigating challenges with extended family requires a couple to have open communication and a shared approach. She adds that it’s important for couples to establish boundaries together while respecting the importance of extended family. Regularly checking in with each other about feelings and expectations is key, she says.

    Challenging in-law dynamics can make or break you. They’re bound to test the strength of your bond. That’s why therapists believe boundaries are important, and you should set them together, as a couple, to protect your relationship.

    “Couples should prioritise their relationship by presenting a united front, but with kindness and respect for their in-laws’ perspective,” advises Mathur. But she says if conflicts persist, professional support like therapy should be considered.

    “Be each other’s advocates and support systems,” agrees the Laurel Therapy Collective. “This sends a clear message that you both value your relationship and will work together to resolve conflicts.”

    “Boundaries are not about pushing someone away or cutting ties,” notes the Collective’s site. “Boundaries are put in place to establish standards for everyone to get their needs met. Decide how and when to communicate these boundaries to the involved parties.”

    We asked Mathur what advice she has for the brother who is getting married. “I’d encourage the man to have an open conversation with his fiancée to understand the deeper reasons behind her decision. Is there a history of conflict or an unresolved issue that could be addressed?” she replied, adding that relationships thrive on empathy and compromise, so framing the conversation around long-term family harmony might help.

    Mathur says it’s important to understand that weddings are emotionally charged events. “While it’s natural to want to feel comfortable on the day, excluding someone simply because of a dislike can sow lasting family tensions,” warned the expert.

    The psychotherapist says she understands why the sibling is standing by his wife and refusing to go to the wedding alone. “Their loyalty to their spouse is understandable, as marriage often involves supporting each other in times of conflict,” said Mathur. However, she cautioned that a hardline stance risks deepening the divide and creating more hurt.

    “While it’s important for the sibling to advocate for their wife, a more constructive approach might involve seeking dialogue with the couple to understand their decision and explore compromise. For example, could the sister-in-law attend the ceremony but skip certain parts of the day? Clear communication is critical, as is focusing on long-term relationships over temporary disputes,” she advised.

    As for the excluded wife, Mathur would advise her to focus on self-care and emotional processing first. “Being excluded can feel deeply hurtful, especially when it involves family,” the expert told Bored Panda. “Resist the urge to retaliate or escalate the situation, as that might reinforce existing tensions. Instead, consider writing a letter or having a calm, open conversation with the couple to express feelings constructively, without blame.”

    Mathur adds that communicating a willingness to work towards better relations in the future can help pave the way for reconciliation. “Above all, remember that this conflict doesn’t define your worth—it’s about navigating family dynamics rather than a reflection of personal value.”

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    “I Don’t Like My Sister-in-Law—Here’s How I Deal”: woman in a similar situation weighs in 

    “Limiting time together is one of the best tactics I’ve found for dealing with a tricky familial relationship,” reads an anonymous post on the EveryMom blog. It’s a personal story written by someone who has a less-than-rosy relationship with their sister-in-law, and it’s bluntly titled “I Don’t Like My Sister-in-Law—Here’s How I Deal.”

    The writer explains that the SIL in question isn’t her husband’s sister, but rather his brother’s wife. Sounds familiar, right? She says they “parent differently, have fundamentally different viewpoints on many issues, and differ greatly on politeness and decorum.”

    She goes on to advise that in her experience, “opting out of a petty disagreement is almost always the right move.” Another tip the anonymous writer gives is to try to have a buffer when spending time with her sister-in-law. For example, if the parents-in-law are present, the sister-in-law might be on better behavior.

    The final bit of advice is the one the writer claims to find the most difficult: that is to try to navigate the relationship with grace, compassion and some understanding. You never know what the next person is going through, after all.

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    “Don’t go”: netizens flooded the comments with messages of support, and some voiced concern for the groom 

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    Catlady6000
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have never, in 60 years, seen an instance where doing something to keep the peace, has actually resulted in keeping the peace

    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    11 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The rule is simple; unless they are unhinged or causing harm to people, you stand with your spouse. That's it. When you get married, your spouse is your closest family member. In this particular situation, to me the decision is crystal clear - either both go or neither go. Any damage to relationships is purely on OP's brother and his fiancee for creating the situation. Also, doesn't OP's brother know IT'S HIS DAY, TOO? He sounds like a coward.

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    Paul C
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can smell golden child syndrome when a parent tells one child to just keep the peace. Translation: "I know they are being a complete b'stard, but they are my favourite, so you have to put up with it". The reply to OPs mother should have been "it's not worth destroying my relationship with my wife over one day"

    LB
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That argument should have been direct at the brother, anyway

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    Libstak
    Community Member
    11 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How far will this go in the long term if he caved and went? The wife would not be invited to thanksgiving, christmas, birthdays etc by this biatch of a SIL who would, i guarantee you, ensure as many of these events as possible were under her control. This is the start of creating permanent rifts in the family.

    Cee Cee
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Emily is waving a huge red flag.

    Disgruntled Panda
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is one of those stories where I'd love to hear the other side. Not saying it isn't a s**t thing to do but normally everyone defends a bride by saying she can choose to invite or not invite who she wants. And maybe OPs wife is not a "fun bubbly person" but a meddling, overbearing, incredibly annoying person.

    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is very possible. However, when the brother says that the wedding was his fiancee's day, I found that very telling.

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    BoredLittleLeafSheep
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If my spouse isn't invited, I am not going. End of discussion. Brother and SIL (and mom) can go f**k themselves.

    Gozer LeGozerian
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Since it's apparently Emily's day, he isn't really skipping his brother's wedding day, is he now.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So everyone but the person causing the issue has to "keep the peace"? F**k that. The people who claim "but it's family" is always one way.

    David L
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oi Emily, can you wave your red flags a little faster?

    Secret Squirrel
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brother claims invites to his own wedding are "out of his control"?!? OP shouldn't go in any case because this is definitely a precursor to abuse. It's galling that the family is ok with the relationship and just acknowledges that the brother doesn't have any say in his relationship with his own family. He needs an intervention not a wedding.

    boone williams
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell him you love him and you'll both go to his next wedding.

    Joanne Earle
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I definitely agree to skip the wedding. Emily is marrying into the family so is she going to exclude Lisa any time Emily hosts a holiday or cookout? Will she be causing drama at other family members homes on holidays,etc? Probably.

    ThisIsMe
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When there are stories like this, I particularly hate the two sided argument that is often missed. They argue that it is Emily's BIG DAY that will be ruined if Lisa attends, but OP is expected to suck it up because it is JUST A DAY. It is either a big day, or it is just another day. Can't have it both ways. And sorry, but it isn't Emily's wedding, it is Emily and brother's wedding. If he wants his brother there, and brother is standing by his wife (as he should) then brother needs to deal with Emily on this. Otherwise this will not end with the wedding - Emily won't want Lisa at Christmas, other family events.

    Julia Cargile
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope you two don't go then everyone at the wedding will be talking about what a bit*h Emily is for not inviting Lisa. Emily is an idiot.

    Captive
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So many things don't make sense here. Brother says it's HER day but if OP wouldn't join, it would ruin HIS wedding. Or going there alone for the sake of family harmony while the family harmony will be destroyed if he does exactly that. Like???

    VNES101
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His brother thinks Lisa is annoying as well LOL. He's just letting Emily take the fall for Lisa not being invited.

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    John MacAninch
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP chose their wife. Their brother is an accident of birth. Wife trumps brother always.

    besterdaleen
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This woman is not even part of the family yet (unlike your wife) and she feels the need to dictate changes in dynamics? I think not. Your mother, on the other hand, if there is a slap in the face, it's your mom so obviously dismissing a woman who has been in the family for 5 bloody years, a woman which, for all intents and purposes, has a personality drawing people to her. Shame on them. You took vows, that is the family peace you need to keep. Those within your 4 walls, your, and your wife's, safe space. They can go suck a rock

    James King
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "James, you know in your heart that Emily is wrong to do this. It's also YOUR wedding, too. So man up and tell Emily we will both be there, because I will NOT be there without my wife. If you won't, don't bother inviting me to ANY event with you two until your balls drop."

    Pixie T
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So what is Emily's plan for future family events? Demand Lisa not be invited? Not go if Lisa will be there? Demand James not speak to Lisa or his brother. james needs to put a stop to this immediately and tell her he will not cause a rift in the family because she's insecure. I can't see this marriage lasting to be honest

    dandylilah
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great, Emily. You just made it super awkward for any future family events/holidays.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He needs to listen to his pop. Happy wife, happy life.

    Mjskywalk
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. He should just tell his brother he will be at the next one. Cuz with a bride this unhinged there’ll certainly be about divorce.

    Annie Berry
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like he should just tell his brother, "It's all cool, dude. Maybe we can make your next wedding."

    Eva
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That'd the the icing on the (wedding) cake. Lol

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    AndyR
    Community Member
    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You chose your wife. You didn't choose to have a brother. If it even happened - the reddit post was deleted.

    Metalhead Turtle 🇺🇦
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP deleted the original post, in case anyone wanted an update.

    Andrew Arons
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No-brainer. They intentionally insulted his wife. If he let's it slide once, they'll just keep doing it every time they're all in the same room. And if the brother had any sense, he'd dump the fiancé because she's worse than insecure. She's controlling and spiteful.

    Monique Williams
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Huh??? Very bratty of her and their wedding is gonna be boring and horrible anyway

    Vera Diblikova
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You need to go to the church (or whatever), but not to the celebration.

    Eva
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brother is spineless. Weddings are not just for the bride. It's also for the groom. If brother can't stand up to his wife, he's door mat. You and your wife are a package deal. Imagine you guys having kids together, but your wife is excluded from family invites. If your brother is willing to ruin a relationship with you, then he doesn't deserve to have a relationship with you. As for the mother, ask if she'd be happy to be excluded if it was one of her husband's siblings getting married and he went without her.

    Micah McDermott
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok. Let's put this to rest shall we! Your wife is your family. She is the one you sleep next too, not your brother! You stand by your wife and tell mom to never 'sweep this c**p under the rug' like she is trying to do. I'll tell you from experience, thst doesn't work. She will enable them even more in the future.

    K DOTDOT
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just stopped reading when he said his Wife wasn't invited. If your spouse isn't invited you aren't invited. Full stop. Period!

    Beef Brisket
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, as per the questionnaire above, I don't think it's the GROOM who's being asked to attend his wedding alone...that would be counterproductive.

    Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone telling him to concede to keep the piece. Is a brainless hypocrite. How come that never goes the other way?

    Crystalwitch60
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a 60 yr old woman who has been in abusive marriages two off Emily is an abusive b***h sorry but she is ! refusing to have Lisa there the way she’s acting so Emily is an introvert so am I I’m not twisted enough to make the world about me for anything like Emily is does it mean no one that’s a people person is allowed either your brother is marrying a nasty pos end off and no you should not go your WIFE COMES FIRST , if they hve issues with that ask them so if roles reversed how would you feel ! Sorry im not going deal with it and your control freak of a soon to be wife from hell ! NTA

    Guess Undheit
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His WIFE is the one he has to live with, not his brother and the harpy. His wife was insulted, and if he goes, he's insulting her too. It's not even a decision.

    painttheyellowsubgreen
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am 100% on OPs side, he's NTA, and standing up for his W and supporting her is absolutely the correct choice. BUT... It's OPs Bs day also and he should have the right to invite ALL his family. I find it interesting though that nobody seems to see the irony of telling OP to support his W, but can't see that his B is in the exact same situation. His B is doing the same thing, supporting his STBW. OP should not go to the wedding. If OP goes to the wedding, he creates a rift in his marriage, if his B forces the issue and invites OPs W against his STBW will he creates a rift in his marriage before it even starts. In an ideal world OP could salvage his relationship with his B by calling him without anger and accusations, let him know OP realizes his B is standing up for his STBW, and it's the right thing to do. OP should tell his B he's proud of him, and he loves him. Then ask B to see that OP is in the same situation, he wants to see his B get married, but he also has to stand by his W.

    painttheyellowsubgreen
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An idea might be for OP, without any disparagement twords STBW, to ask his B to talk with STBW about a compromise. Would she be okay with OP and his W coming to the just ceremony, but not staying for the reception? OP gets to see his brother get married and STBW doesn't have to interact with OPs W. But if he asks his B for this he has to be prepared to graciously accept if she says no. If OP wants to maintain a relationship with his B he can't react negatively or talk badly about STBW. This is really sad because both men are doing the right thing for their partners.

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    Joanne Wright
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, your wife and your only sibling's wife are in conflict. Which ever choice you make will impact the family dynamic forever!!! Is it not possible to try to do interventions before the wedding to try to bring both women together and see if htere is any way they can become friends? You will lose your relationship with your bother if both of your wives hate each other forever.

    Nitka Tsar
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don‘t know. I think we do not know the whole story. Depending on the viewpoint both could be in the right or in the wrong. I think this story might be a bit scewed because it‘s from bubblys husbands viewpoint. He might not see his wives bad side or might not be able to see what she might have done wrong. Of course, bride could be overreacting. Wouldn‘t be the first time a bride went off her rocker

    Hakitosama
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then don't expect husband to go ! In events like that, couples come in pairs end of the story!

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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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    MegDragon
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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    VNES101
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    11 months ago

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    How much do ya wanna bet that Lisa is annoying as hell and likely has a bit too much to drink and gets too familiar with people in social settings LMAO! I really doubt she isn't invited JUST because she has a bubbly personality. I need more details.

    FluffyDreg
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You really don't. It doesn't matter if Lisa was scum of the earth. You don't not invite someone's wife, then demand they show up and get upset when they don't want to.

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    KatSaidWhat
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    11 months ago

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    The two couples need to be in a room together with a mediator and talk through why Lisa is NFI - if it's valid reasons, suck it up. Their wedding, their guestlist. Maybe use that time to try and reach an understanding on how to be in each other's company without causing each other aggro for future.

    Iva Kazalova
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    11 months ago

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    To that person saying Emily is an ‘abuser’ or whatever, I am quiet and reserved and I hate attention seekers, and in Emily’s place, Lisa is not attending my wedding, period. Each brother is entitled to and should stand by their spouse, but also, Emily feels more strongly about Lisa than her fiancee and she is entitled to a wedding that isn’t marred by someone she can’t stand

    Catlady6000
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have never, in 60 years, seen an instance where doing something to keep the peace, has actually resulted in keeping the peace

    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    11 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The rule is simple; unless they are unhinged or causing harm to people, you stand with your spouse. That's it. When you get married, your spouse is your closest family member. In this particular situation, to me the decision is crystal clear - either both go or neither go. Any damage to relationships is purely on OP's brother and his fiancee for creating the situation. Also, doesn't OP's brother know IT'S HIS DAY, TOO? He sounds like a coward.

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    Paul C
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can smell golden child syndrome when a parent tells one child to just keep the peace. Translation: "I know they are being a complete b'stard, but they are my favourite, so you have to put up with it". The reply to OPs mother should have been "it's not worth destroying my relationship with my wife over one day"

    LB
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That argument should have been direct at the brother, anyway

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    Libstak
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    11 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How far will this go in the long term if he caved and went? The wife would not be invited to thanksgiving, christmas, birthdays etc by this biatch of a SIL who would, i guarantee you, ensure as many of these events as possible were under her control. This is the start of creating permanent rifts in the family.

    Cee Cee
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Emily is waving a huge red flag.

    Disgruntled Panda
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is one of those stories where I'd love to hear the other side. Not saying it isn't a s**t thing to do but normally everyone defends a bride by saying she can choose to invite or not invite who she wants. And maybe OPs wife is not a "fun bubbly person" but a meddling, overbearing, incredibly annoying person.

    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is very possible. However, when the brother says that the wedding was his fiancee's day, I found that very telling.

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    BoredLittleLeafSheep
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If my spouse isn't invited, I am not going. End of discussion. Brother and SIL (and mom) can go f**k themselves.

    Gozer LeGozerian
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Since it's apparently Emily's day, he isn't really skipping his brother's wedding day, is he now.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So everyone but the person causing the issue has to "keep the peace"? F**k that. The people who claim "but it's family" is always one way.

    David L
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oi Emily, can you wave your red flags a little faster?

    Secret Squirrel
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brother claims invites to his own wedding are "out of his control"?!? OP shouldn't go in any case because this is definitely a precursor to abuse. It's galling that the family is ok with the relationship and just acknowledges that the brother doesn't have any say in his relationship with his own family. He needs an intervention not a wedding.

    boone williams
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell him you love him and you'll both go to his next wedding.

    Joanne Earle
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I definitely agree to skip the wedding. Emily is marrying into the family so is she going to exclude Lisa any time Emily hosts a holiday or cookout? Will she be causing drama at other family members homes on holidays,etc? Probably.

    ThisIsMe
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When there are stories like this, I particularly hate the two sided argument that is often missed. They argue that it is Emily's BIG DAY that will be ruined if Lisa attends, but OP is expected to suck it up because it is JUST A DAY. It is either a big day, or it is just another day. Can't have it both ways. And sorry, but it isn't Emily's wedding, it is Emily and brother's wedding. If he wants his brother there, and brother is standing by his wife (as he should) then brother needs to deal with Emily on this. Otherwise this will not end with the wedding - Emily won't want Lisa at Christmas, other family events.

    Julia Cargile
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope you two don't go then everyone at the wedding will be talking about what a bit*h Emily is for not inviting Lisa. Emily is an idiot.

    Captive
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So many things don't make sense here. Brother says it's HER day but if OP wouldn't join, it would ruin HIS wedding. Or going there alone for the sake of family harmony while the family harmony will be destroyed if he does exactly that. Like???

    VNES101
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His brother thinks Lisa is annoying as well LOL. He's just letting Emily take the fall for Lisa not being invited.

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    John MacAninch
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP chose their wife. Their brother is an accident of birth. Wife trumps brother always.

    besterdaleen
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This woman is not even part of the family yet (unlike your wife) and she feels the need to dictate changes in dynamics? I think not. Your mother, on the other hand, if there is a slap in the face, it's your mom so obviously dismissing a woman who has been in the family for 5 bloody years, a woman which, for all intents and purposes, has a personality drawing people to her. Shame on them. You took vows, that is the family peace you need to keep. Those within your 4 walls, your, and your wife's, safe space. They can go suck a rock

    James King
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "James, you know in your heart that Emily is wrong to do this. It's also YOUR wedding, too. So man up and tell Emily we will both be there, because I will NOT be there without my wife. If you won't, don't bother inviting me to ANY event with you two until your balls drop."

    Pixie T
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So what is Emily's plan for future family events? Demand Lisa not be invited? Not go if Lisa will be there? Demand James not speak to Lisa or his brother. james needs to put a stop to this immediately and tell her he will not cause a rift in the family because she's insecure. I can't see this marriage lasting to be honest

    dandylilah
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great, Emily. You just made it super awkward for any future family events/holidays.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He needs to listen to his pop. Happy wife, happy life.

    Mjskywalk
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. He should just tell his brother he will be at the next one. Cuz with a bride this unhinged there’ll certainly be about divorce.

    Annie Berry
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like he should just tell his brother, "It's all cool, dude. Maybe we can make your next wedding."

    Eva
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That'd the the icing on the (wedding) cake. Lol

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    AndyR
    Community Member
    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You chose your wife. You didn't choose to have a brother. If it even happened - the reddit post was deleted.

    Metalhead Turtle 🇺🇦
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP deleted the original post, in case anyone wanted an update.

    Andrew Arons
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No-brainer. They intentionally insulted his wife. If he let's it slide once, they'll just keep doing it every time they're all in the same room. And if the brother had any sense, he'd dump the fiancé because she's worse than insecure. She's controlling and spiteful.

    Monique Williams
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Huh??? Very bratty of her and their wedding is gonna be boring and horrible anyway

    Vera Diblikova
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You need to go to the church (or whatever), but not to the celebration.

    Eva
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brother is spineless. Weddings are not just for the bride. It's also for the groom. If brother can't stand up to his wife, he's door mat. You and your wife are a package deal. Imagine you guys having kids together, but your wife is excluded from family invites. If your brother is willing to ruin a relationship with you, then he doesn't deserve to have a relationship with you. As for the mother, ask if she'd be happy to be excluded if it was one of her husband's siblings getting married and he went without her.

    Micah McDermott
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok. Let's put this to rest shall we! Your wife is your family. She is the one you sleep next too, not your brother! You stand by your wife and tell mom to never 'sweep this c**p under the rug' like she is trying to do. I'll tell you from experience, thst doesn't work. She will enable them even more in the future.

    K DOTDOT
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just stopped reading when he said his Wife wasn't invited. If your spouse isn't invited you aren't invited. Full stop. Period!

    Beef Brisket
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, as per the questionnaire above, I don't think it's the GROOM who's being asked to attend his wedding alone...that would be counterproductive.

    Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone telling him to concede to keep the piece. Is a brainless hypocrite. How come that never goes the other way?

    Crystalwitch60
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a 60 yr old woman who has been in abusive marriages two off Emily is an abusive b***h sorry but she is ! refusing to have Lisa there the way she’s acting so Emily is an introvert so am I I’m not twisted enough to make the world about me for anything like Emily is does it mean no one that’s a people person is allowed either your brother is marrying a nasty pos end off and no you should not go your WIFE COMES FIRST , if they hve issues with that ask them so if roles reversed how would you feel ! Sorry im not going deal with it and your control freak of a soon to be wife from hell ! NTA

    Guess Undheit
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His WIFE is the one he has to live with, not his brother and the harpy. His wife was insulted, and if he goes, he's insulting her too. It's not even a decision.

    painttheyellowsubgreen
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am 100% on OPs side, he's NTA, and standing up for his W and supporting her is absolutely the correct choice. BUT... It's OPs Bs day also and he should have the right to invite ALL his family. I find it interesting though that nobody seems to see the irony of telling OP to support his W, but can't see that his B is in the exact same situation. His B is doing the same thing, supporting his STBW. OP should not go to the wedding. If OP goes to the wedding, he creates a rift in his marriage, if his B forces the issue and invites OPs W against his STBW will he creates a rift in his marriage before it even starts. In an ideal world OP could salvage his relationship with his B by calling him without anger and accusations, let him know OP realizes his B is standing up for his STBW, and it's the right thing to do. OP should tell his B he's proud of him, and he loves him. Then ask B to see that OP is in the same situation, he wants to see his B get married, but he also has to stand by his W.

    painttheyellowsubgreen
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An idea might be for OP, without any disparagement twords STBW, to ask his B to talk with STBW about a compromise. Would she be okay with OP and his W coming to the just ceremony, but not staying for the reception? OP gets to see his brother get married and STBW doesn't have to interact with OPs W. But if he asks his B for this he has to be prepared to graciously accept if she says no. If OP wants to maintain a relationship with his B he can't react negatively or talk badly about STBW. This is really sad because both men are doing the right thing for their partners.

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    Joanne Wright
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, your wife and your only sibling's wife are in conflict. Which ever choice you make will impact the family dynamic forever!!! Is it not possible to try to do interventions before the wedding to try to bring both women together and see if htere is any way they can become friends? You will lose your relationship with your bother if both of your wives hate each other forever.

    Nitka Tsar
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don‘t know. I think we do not know the whole story. Depending on the viewpoint both could be in the right or in the wrong. I think this story might be a bit scewed because it‘s from bubblys husbands viewpoint. He might not see his wives bad side or might not be able to see what she might have done wrong. Of course, bride could be overreacting. Wouldn‘t be the first time a bride went off her rocker

    Hakitosama
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then don't expect husband to go ! In events like that, couples come in pairs end of the story!

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    MegDragon
    Community Member
    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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    VNES101
    Community Member
    11 months ago

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    How much do ya wanna bet that Lisa is annoying as hell and likely has a bit too much to drink and gets too familiar with people in social settings LMAO! I really doubt she isn't invited JUST because she has a bubbly personality. I need more details.

    FluffyDreg
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You really don't. It doesn't matter if Lisa was scum of the earth. You don't not invite someone's wife, then demand they show up and get upset when they don't want to.

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    KatSaidWhat
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    11 months ago

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    The two couples need to be in a room together with a mediator and talk through why Lisa is NFI - if it's valid reasons, suck it up. Their wedding, their guestlist. Maybe use that time to try and reach an understanding on how to be in each other's company without causing each other aggro for future.

    Iva Kazalova
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    11 months ago

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    To that person saying Emily is an ‘abuser’ or whatever, I am quiet and reserved and I hate attention seekers, and in Emily’s place, Lisa is not attending my wedding, period. Each brother is entitled to and should stand by their spouse, but also, Emily feels more strongly about Lisa than her fiancee and she is entitled to a wedding that isn’t marred by someone she can’t stand

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