28 Formerly Devoted Churchgoers Share What The Straw That Broke The Camel’s Back Was For Them
Going to church or any other religious institution is an integral part of the daily routine for many of us. After all, religion has played and will play an important role in people's lives. And even if deep down we doubt the existence of divine providence and any higher being above us, religion gives us at least some sense of belonging.
On the other hand, many of us, for one reason or another, become disillusioned with religion or our faith. Even if religion was incredibly important to us for many years or decades. And in today's list made for you by Bored Panda, there are several dozen stories from people who once lost their religion.
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I stopped being forced to go.
I went to a Catholic school the first 4 years. After that it was public schools til I graduated. Was not a fan of Catholic school.
My brother and I were expected to go to church every Sunday as children. Mum never knew that instead of walking a block to church, we would walk down to the mountain brow and find a bench to chill on unless it was hella cold
I got a job on 2nd shift - 4pm to midnight - and my parents quit forcing me to go.
One of my four sons is gay. I love him without reservation. The church says he’s a sinner because of who he is. I’m out.
It says a lot of things. That doesn't make them true.
Load More Replies...Find another church (if you want to). There are many that don't agree with this. My denomination has a lot of gay ministers. If are all made in the image of God, how can being gay be wrong?
Even the Catholic Church doesn't say being gay is sinful in and of itself. It does say that gay s*x is sinful because it's s*x outside of marriage, just as it would be for an unmarried heterosexual couple. (The catch, of course, is that the Church will allow the heterosexual couple get married.)
Load More Replies...I don’t need a higher power to tell me right from wrong. Just don’t be a d**k. It’s not that hard
They said my mom’s cancers was god testing me and my family.
Testing you for whether you have enough self-control not to immediately clobber the smug prat who said that, maybe.
I hate stuff like this, or "It's all part of god's plan" or any of that other nonsense. Its not helpful, and is often actively harmful.
Why would god test people? If he is all knowing then he already knows what's in your heart. Doesn't make sense at all.
A couple of weeks ago, a thread appeared in the AskReddit community, where the author, the user u/lowly_shepherd, decided to ask netizens: "People who have stopped going to church, what made you stop?" The question, you must admit, is quite difficult and too personal for many, but people began to answer. And so, as of today, the thread has over 9.5K upvotes and around 16K various comments.
So we, Bored Panda, have collected for you a selection of the most interesting, sometimes touching and sad, sometimes simply rational and even cynical stories, behind each of which stands a human being, their beliefs, expectations and dreams. Sometimes, unfortunately, unfulfilled...
They seemed to want money more than anything else.
The Catholic church is one of the wealthiest businesses in the world.
I was raised in the Church of Christ. Women arent supposed to speak in front of men, instead theyre supposed to filter their voice through their husband or father. My dad has alzheimers and my raised in the church husband beat me, cheated on me, lied, stole, and beat our kids. I also wayched them drag a 16 year old gay child to the front and excommunicate him in front of over 1000 people. Evil effing cult.
Patriarchy is the basis of the three abramic religions and their myriad schisms and cults. I doubt they'll ever give that up.
Oh they will, once their membership is down to three old incels.
Load More Replies...My pastor literally yelled at the parents of a kid who had come out and his parents wanted the pastor to "renounce the evil and sin inside the boy." he literally paused service and gave a speech about how he nor God cares about who you love, as long as you behave like a person of the lord
My friend was being abused by her husband and the pastor took his side and offered her no help. She left the church and her husband
I'm so sorry you all deserved better. Jesus never silenced women, He appears first and speaks with Mary after His resurrection. He humiliated the men who tried to trick him into stoning a woman. He spoke kindly and directly to her, as he did with the woman at the well, as he did the woman with issue. No where does Jesus treat women as less. Why would he? So then why does a man twist what God does and say a woman is to remain silent? Paul was talking specifically to a certain group of women who at that time were interrupting sermons. Martha and Mary spoke freely did they not? Jesus loves all and wants all to be saved, gasp yes even says! He just wants us to repent and as he gently ( I believe) said to the woman meant to be s****d, go and sin no more.
I started to realize I felt guilty for things that weren’t truly wrong and didn’t negatively impact others. I now don’t need the interpretation of good and evil from others, I just do my best to be a good person on my own terms.
Treat the others the same way you want to be treated by them. No need of any god/religion for this.
And if you learn they have different boundaries than you, treat them how they want to be treated.
Load More Replies...I.bumped into a friend from high school and she asked me if I have accepted jesus as my lord and savior. I told her that I wa not religious but I just do good deeds and things, treating others with decency and being helpful. She said that would not get me into heaven. Good deeds do not get you into heaven, accepting jesus as your lord and savior is the only way to get into heaven. So I asked her if someone could be a m******r but they accept jesus as their lord and savior, how does that work? She said it is not for her to judge, judging is left to God. But I felt very judged by her.
If heaven is full of so called “Christians”, I’m not going
Load More Replies...There are many people who believe atheists and agnostics have no morals. I disagree; some of the most moral, kind, generous, and giving people I know are Christian.
The prisons are full of religious persons who, despite the fear of their god's eye that watches them from above, committed crimes. Therefore religions have failed in this issue.
Load More Replies...Have you met with the creator face to face? Or you accept what some half-literate goatfockers wrote 2700 years ago?
Load More Replies...Someone becomes disillusioned with organized religion, having encountered banal manifestations of base human feelings even from priests (up to sins that the Bible actually recognizes as mortal ones - just remember at least the Oscar-winning film Spotlight...). Well, someone who continues to go to church simply by family tradition, sooner or later, begins to rethink these traditions.
This is completely reasonable and logical. In fact, in the end, behind each tradition there is some rational experience from the past, which people eventually elevate to the level of ritual. In this case, tradition loses its validity and turns into just a mechanical act. So people who start thinking about it involuntarily deconstruct the entire process.
I stopped going when I was 14 and 2 different people, one of them the pastor, told me that dinosaurs never existed. I really went home that night, sat on my bed, and said to myself “I can’t let myself ever get that stupid” and I never went back. I was going 4 times a week too it was a big part of my life.
My aunt is a born again christian. She used to send us, a family of archaeologists, tapes on how the world is only 6000 years old, or dinosaurs don't exist. Meanwhile, we had literal proof hanging on our wall. The 'pastor' on the tapes would go on about how they can't know how old the world is, because you can't carbon date dirt. Duh. But you know what you CAN carbon date? Carbon.
Christians are deliberately taught logical thinking is bad. Everything must be looked at through the lens of faith.
Load More Replies...Fundamental Christians actually believe that dinosaur bones were planted by Satan to deceive people.
Coincidentally, that's my theory about fundamentalist Christians.
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I went to a Baptist university and they were building a new football stadium. One day, at the dog park, I was talking with a professor who was also a preacher, about the new stadium. We were both excited to hear that neither of us thought the stadium was a good idea.
But I’ll never forget the look of disgust on his face when I said that the money should go to helping the largely impoverished community around the university.
He thought it should go to building more churches.
It was then I realized that I have fundamentally different morals and ethics than churchgoers.
I am generally not a fan of religion,but due to my mothers preacher (American baptist that came to Germany as a missionary) I realllly hate the baptist bigotery. The kids were not allowed at public pools because of naked skin, the daughters had to wear knee length skirts and cover their shoulders,.... but ego shooter games etc were fine. (nothing against the games but I'd rather my children saw shoulders than shot off heads) I finally managed to skip church and church camp at about 13 by not stopping asking "why???" for every stupid thing they taught in youth group and sitting silently during songs and prayer. ... years after the death of my mother and her ex / my father my sister told me that my father tried to get her to leave the church because he felt is was a cult.
Unfortunately, too often (or most of the time?) it is about money, power, ego, whatever.
No, just different that many religions. Calvary Fellowships that I have attended (Seattle, Hawaii and other areas) have always bought old buildings. Old schools, grocery stores, movie theaters, small, large etc. Far less expensive. The money is better spent in helping missionaries, poor pregnant women, single mothers who are struggling. The poor, food banks. Counseling those struggling. Even running small used clothing stores. Only extremely good condition, so we can buy new clothes for these women and children. See not all religions practice alike. The building is to be useful, not glamorous. Less debt!
Too many fake people, too many people who think Christianity and political beliefs go together, and too many people who rely on God and don't want to do the work and fix their own problems.
What was that the pope said when he toured through the US about the churches here, "They have replaced faith with ideology."
Americans follow politics and religion like sports teams. It's utterly bizarre.
Load More Replies...I'm a Quaker. All you need is to believe we have a light within - call it conscience, inner voice, whatever. Next week we're having a talk by a Nontheist Quaker - he doesn't believe in God as somethng 'out there'.
If there must be religion, I prefer to view it through the lens of "god helps those who help themselves". It's not about getting a free fix for all your problems, but the comfort and inspiration to cope with/fix them yourself.
Interestingly "God helps those who helps themselves" is not found in the Bible. In fact, it's anti-Christian because it holds works to be more important than faith.
Load More Replies..."Rely on God and don't want to fix their problems" is one of the crucial problems with all religions. It is easy to think "well, God will send him to hell" and do nothing. But sometimes, a good beating with a stick is way more effective.
Lol, of course I rely on God. That doesn't mean I do nothing. Of course there are fake Christians. Of course there are the people you speak of. Just as God used Moses a m******r, King David an Adulterers + a m******r, a scared depressed prophet who ran away - Jonah, a coward who didn't want to face the enemy...these are humans, sinful, imperfect humans. The only perfect human was m******d remember? Up until now, you right? Shhh be careful.
A separate issue is the relationship between religion and science. Despite the fact that the top leaders of many denominations have long been trying to adapt their teachings to the scientifically based picture of the modern world, some priests ‘in the field’ continue to deny any scientific fact that doesn’t fit into the framework of the sacred scriptures of their religion.
But if the person who hears this has some kind of rational thinking, they sooner or later begin to wonder - is it really worth going to church at all?
I came to realize that organised religion is just a man made concoction meant to control people and make a few people rich and comfortable.
I never did believe in their God. My bs detector kicked into high gear the first time my parents hauled me to church.
Same. Only took 3 months of 1 bible story a day in a Protestant elementary school. Was passed on like it was history but just couldn't believe it. My parents aren't religious but raised and then said: it's only true if you think it is. Basically saying it's some make believe bs
Load More Replies...Organized religion is to spirituality what home owners associations are to nice neighborhoods.
I read the Bible. Came to very different conclusions than those I was taught in church.
Same. I got given a copy and I pretty much read the entire thing. I came away with the conclusion "wow, the god depicted in this thing is HORRIBLE and I want absolutely nothing to do with him".
Same. No church goer. Got a copy at school when I was like 9 or 10. We were poor (1985 or 1986) so one of my only recreations was reading books. Still love to read books. Anyway, got a copy of the bible in a cheap paperback binding. It was the new testament only. I read it like I would any other book. Just to realize years later what it was. I liked it as I would like any story book. Nice stories. Like the one about the jealous mother who tried to steal other mother's baby and the King said that to resolve the case, he will order the baby to be cut in half.
Load More Replies...I have now read the Bible for a third time and just don't get it. I keep thinking I must be missing something.
Think of the old testament as a collection of myths handed down orally from late stone age pastoral tribes. Largely written down during the Babylonian exile; heavily influenced throughout by politics and local Babylonian traditions. (Noah's flood comes from the gilgamesh legend, for instance.) The new testament is essentially a publis relations document. The authors searched the old testament for stories that would add to the myths that they were creating. The virgin Mary story is their own mistranslation of a word meaning young girl. They took it to mean maiden, implying virginity.
Load More Replies...When I was young and trying to make sense of things, I read the Bible all the way through four times (four different versions.) What deconverted me was Jesus’ genealogy in the New Testament. It lists Joseph as Jesus’ father. But…..I thought the whole deal with Christianity was that Mary got knocked up by God. I just couldn’t, after that.
A bit similar. A soviet kid, with the regular soviet anti religion propaganda, but after the collapse of USSR a lot of faiths started recruiting openly. I was given a bible at an recruiting event at school (like who let them in in the first place?) in 3rd class I think. The first few pages were the genesis and then a long list of jewish forefathers begetting more forefathers. Only in my language we do not have the word beget (not a child safe one anyways :D) so it was written like: from inside (an obviously male name) was born (another obviously male name) who then gave birth to .... My 9 year old brain conjured a bunch of pregnant grey bearded men standing around in beige robes sharing bread and wine and went wait..... that cant be right..... I now know what the book meant, but I still cannot imagine the biblical forefathers any other way as bearded and nine months pregnant having some biblical baby shower.
Load More Replies...I was given a copy of the bible when I was in 5th grade (yes, public school in Idaho). One of the passages said that a S/A victim was to be st on ed to death by the town if nobody comes forward to claim they heard her cries for help. There were also graphic descriptions of cutting up small animals as sacrifices. I'm not sure that was actually a Christian book.
My favorite part of the Bible is where God threatens to rub a someone's kids face with cow p*o if they don't love him enough
Iv'e put great effort into reading the Bible, Qur'an, Gita, Guru Granth Sahib,Tripitaka text's purely because if you don't understand something you have no right to argue about it... The only one that makes even the slightest bit of sense is Tripitaka and even that is pushing it.
Stopped going to our family church when the pastor told me I was not allowed to leave my husband over domestic abuse unless he cheated on me. I left him anyway.
The Catholic Church told an ex coworker of mine, in front of the whole congregation, that was was no longer welcome and was being excommunicated. Her husband has cheated on her and divorced her for his cheating partner. Divorced women are evil I guess and aren't allowed in the church. Disgusting cult.
If the parish priest said that he was lying and way out of line. A Catholic who divorces and remarries is barred from receiving communion but that is far from excommunication. And a parish priest can't excommunicate anyone for anything. It's done at the diocesan level and usually higher.
Load More Replies...Too many pastors are ill-equipped to deal with domestic violence among church goers. Some are still convinced that if the woman was more "submissive," it wouldn't happen. One pastor gave that very advice to a woman who was being abused by her husband. Two weeks later, she was dead.
In general, all the reasons why people stop going to church can be organized into several groups. For example, the Christianity.com web portal identifies five main groups of such reasons for people to stop attending religious institutions:
1. They are out of the habit.
2. They are scared to go back.
3. They are upset or bitter.
4. They are embarrassed.
5. It is not a priority for them.
By and large, all the stories told in this collection can be classified into one of these groups, right? Well, and some are actually a combination of several reasons at once.
My son is trans. He was accepted when he was female, when he began transitioning to male several congregation members let it be known they didn’t approve. Then the pastor made an anti-LGBTQA comment and we were done. My son who grew up as an altar server in that church said to me shortly after that “I know I’m going to hell so what difference does it make?” The f*****g church did that to him. So f**k them all to hell.
I’ve never understood why trans people are such a big deal to some conservatives. My first trans friend transitioned in 2003. It wasn’t nearly as big of a deal to the general public then as it is now. Sure, some people at school gossiped and he went through some pretty harsh bullying at first, but we always stood up for him, and honestly most other people didn’t seem that truly bothered by it (or at least, they were civil enough to keep their rude comments to themselves and be polite). He off course went through some rough periods but it sadly seems like things have now just gotten dramatically worse for the new generation. We used to see signs that things were maybe starting to get better for our trans friends. Not anymore.
What you mean "Going to hell" Heaven and Hell are both made up things for a crutch against reality... When you die, that's it you are dead there is no afterwards...Just...Nothing until your body gets turned into worm food, worm s**t, nutrients for trees/grass.
This was my last straw. I'd already had so many doubts about not just organized religion, but about the Bible itself for many years. I think the only thing that kept me hanging on as long as I did was that I was raised religious, by a man I did and still do respect, and had a pretty positive experience. But, I could no longer ignore the harm they were doing to my LGBTQIA+ friends and family. That loss of faith was one of the hardest things I've ever been through, but since then it's become freeing. Fully embracing things I previously did mental gymastics to dispute has allowed me to answer so many of my questions. So much more makes sense now. I couldn't go back to believing the Bible if I wanted to.
I would go to mass with my son just to pìss them all off, I don't like how they judge and act all perfect
Did the church do it to him? You did it, you brought him there. Children don't just go off to church on their own
God is everywhere in the universe. The only thing that is solely inside the church is the collection plate. Organized religion is a business and used to be a form of social and political control.
The one and only time Jesus lost his cool in the bible was about this kind of stuff. 🤔
Oh, He did it more than once. That's one reason they had Him killed.
Load More Replies...Tribal control. Us versus Them. Here's what you will believe, here's how you will vote, here's who you will hate, now give us money.
It's frowned upon if you dont put money in the TWO collection plates at mass in the Catholic Church.. I gave so many older people wrinkles they frowned at me so much
The Catholic Church is one of the wealthiest businesses in the world
"used" as in it's what religion is used as a tool for, not the past-tense "used"
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Holier than thou pastor was [having intercourse] his secretary for years while married.
Of course, we shouldn’t forget about the pandemic, which has not only hit the global economy but also affected organized religion around the world. "In the year 2020, many governments around the world put out a mandate to churches and other religious groups to close their doors in response to a new virus circulating the globe," pastor Robert Hampshire says in this dedicated article on Christianity.com.
"Fast forward two or three years, and most people have moved beyond being constantly worried about the negative consequences of getting together to sing, pray, and study."
However, some sociological studies disagree with this - for example, comparing 2019 and 2022, the authors of this study show that the percentage of Americans who used to go to church regularly decreased by only 2%, and those who went occasionally, also by 2%.
I realized they all worship a mythology no different from stories about Greek and Roman gods.
And I started looking around me and noticed all these supposedly good people were actually pretty f****d up. Mean, racist, homophobic, just about as far away from the actual teachings of Christ as can be. If Jesus took a look at what his followers have become, he'd just sit and cry and cry.
I've only ever met maybe one or two actually good Christians who live like Christ said we should. The rest of them are just pretending.
My neighbours are a baptist minister and his wife. They're wonderful people and excellent neighbours. Good ones do exist.
Unfortunately, the most prominant ones don't seem to be. It's similar to how there are good men, but the awful men do a LOT of harm.
Load More Replies...My godmother (christian) said I wouldn't believe how many mean people are at church and are totally ignoring the love thy neighbour and don't judge rules...I believe it
Pious for an hour on Sunday’s and complete a******s the rest of the week
Load More Replies...I wish everyone would do that, some people like to try and defend Christianity by talking about Jesus's teachings about loving people as if they're somehow a good reason to believe in a god
Load More Replies...It's funny when extremely religious people say things about how the Greek and Roman gods *obviously* don't exist
Christ was not a Christian. After he died, his brother James tried to keep the church's Jewish traditions but was pushed aside by Paul. The church we have today would not be recognizable to the early followers of Christ, nor would they approve of it.
I may get blowback but, (as a Lutheran) I found Fr Francis fit this pretty well.
Xenophanes roughly 500 BC said it all about religion, and people coming up with Gods that look like humans etc.
The original idea of basically every religion is to help us lead a good life and be kind to each other. For that aim, it doesn't matter how you call your deity. If your religion creates injustice and cruelty, it's not worth existing. I try to follow Jesus and I often find that it's the opposite of what the church teaches.
The focus on appearances. It seemed like no one actually gave a s**t what went on behind closed doors as long as they weren’t forced to acknowledge it. Felt like nobody would care if their back teeth were rotting out just as long as the front looked nice, so to speak. .
Saying they're against alcohol but have bottles of liquor stored under the sink behind the bleach
When youth pastor brought street kids from Telegraph Ave, and rather than rejoicing that they were there, people bitched about bare feet. (1969)
The Catholic high school girls roaming around town, insulting us public school (US, regular stated funded ) girls. In California, not in Eire or N.I. Not very "love thy neighbor" behavior.
I got sat in the hall and not allowed to participate in Sunday school after declaring that Jesus was a zombie and there was no other way he could have possibly come back to life and refusing to budge from my very logical position on the matter.
I was 8. It was not my last time getting in trouble for the 'Jesus is a zombie' theory.
MAGA Christians are zombies, but the only zombies on record with no taste for brains.
I can see how a child would think Jesus was a zombie. Instead of punishing him, the SS teacher should have explained that zombies were reanimated humans and Jesus rose to a new life - these are different. It could have been an enlightening lesson
Lol, he got crucified, stabbed through the chest and left on a cross to die (apparently if you believe the children's story book) then got entombed in a cave and came back to life....for all intents and purposes he was a bloody zombie or vampire.
Load More Replies...In any case, this list is in no way an attempt to attract people to churches, nor an attempt to turn them away from organized religion. We were simply curious about why people are disillusioned with what for many generations was almost the cornerstone of their lives.
By the way, if you have a similar story under your belt, we’d also be very interested to know about it, so please feel free to share it in the comments below as well.
Couldn't handle the hypocrisy anymore.
Oh, like demeaning and finding contempt in sects of the same faith? Those who demand a "Christian nation' would NOT like the results as the Catholic sect of Christianity is by far the largest and would hold the most sway. You want a Christian nation? Better practice mass.
South Park had episode about this. Turned out it was a Mormon heaven.
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I never really could connect with anyone in the church, they were too... churchy. They didn't seem capable of having conversations that didnt revolve around the church or the bible and I can't just talk abt that 24/7. The level of close mindedness aswell was quite infuriating and couldn't continue to deal with that.
When I was young, the church was my community, but the older I got, the less I could relate to anyone I went to church with. I think maybe they were always like that, but younger me just couldn't see it.
I slept in one Sunday and loved it. Never went back to Sunday School - My oldest is in med school and my other kids are great kids/students. When people ask me how my wife and I raised great kids I always say make sure you are rested.
This is why many churches have youth services in the afternoon/night
As a kid it was because it was absolutely boring. As an adult, because I don't believe subscribe to the teachings.
Absofreakinglutely boring. Those stories they told from the pulpit were just gibberish to me.
Mum insisted my brother and I go. In the winter, it was someplace warm to sit and do nothing for an hour. In the warmer weather, we wandered the neighbourhood
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It just wasn’t fulfilling anymore and I came to the conclusion that most people use religion as a cover up for their flaws.
For some reason, this brings to mind Joel Osteen and his total rejection of the people of Houston. "Oh...flooded out?Sucks to be you."
When I was going through my divorce, my pastor called me and told me he thought it would be best if I didn't come back to church "utnil I got my life together". My ex-wife, she stayed and was welcome with open arms.
So, I'm a little disillusioned.
My best friend was abused by her first husband. Her future second husband saw the abuse and got her out, she stayed at the pastor's house. While he did want her to stay until she felt safe, he expected her to return to him because divorce was wrong. He had previously said to her during marriage counselling that a women should accept her role in a marriage. Both her and her second husband left that church after that, which was really hard from him because he had been brought up in it. My friend got somewhere else safe and divorced him. Her future in laws disapproved of her because she was divorced but after their first grandchild was born they relaxed a little, though still never wanted to listen to the fact she had been abused and that's why she was divorced. Thankfully, this is not something all denominations or churches believe. They found another that was welcoming and supportive.
Because when you really get down to it, it’s just people telling you they know what happens when we die. I’m not basing my life’s ideology around something that’s impossible to know.
It's the longest-running insurance scam in history. "Trust us, you'll be paid out in full....after you're dead".
The notion that everything would finally be wonderful after you died was intended to recruit people whose lives were absolutely horrible, and to keep them enslaved and patient. It's pie in the sky, with no payoff.
That's why they took reincarnation out of the Cannon and made súicide a sin. You're only supposed to have one choice, or you're dàmned.
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The first instant I was permitted to choose.
I stopped the whole religion thing once I reached the age of reason and realized just what it really was!
Me too. Once you find that you've never believed in God, religion is beside the point.
After my separation and divorce not one person from my church called me to ask how I was doing. I grew up in that church and went as an adult after moving back to my home town. There are other reasons, but this one still hurts three years later. I’ll never go back to a baptist church. I may not go back to church at all. I still pray every day.
And no where in the bible does it say you have to go to church.
Load More Replies...Actually, praying is what ALL religions have in common.
Load More Replies...On a school trip to a church I asked why it needed a lightning conductor. The vicar looked at me as if I was stupid and said that it was to protect the building from a lightning strike. I replied that I knew what the conductor did, but it seemed odd that they didn't trust God enough to protect His own house. The vicar grassed me up to my teacher and when we got back to school I was given 6 strokes of the cane for my disrespectful attitude. I still insist that a god that can't protect his own worshippers is no god at all.
If everyone will use his brain, logic and education no religion nor god can stand against them.
Load More Replies...Would love to see similar responses on why people have left other religions. I expect overlap but I'm hoping for differences.
Grew up Hindu. Left because I couldn't accept the caste system.
Load More Replies...Such a long story with me, but having been raised in a mainstream church, and then "born again" after being in crisis in college, I subsequently felt worse because I couldn't reconcile the blatant baloney in the Bible with what I knew was true, and the idea that a loving God would set up the world so that most would go to hell. I know a lot of terrific people who are Christians (and, of course, lots who aren't so great) but I feel so much better with the idea that things happen at random and it's enough to try to be a good person.
Because it’s all complete bōllocks. Why is his birth a fixed date but his so called death always changes date? That makes no sense. The deciding that Mary had a virgin birth took place in the 5th Century. The way they treat women in general, but Mary is revered more than anyone else. Everyone is with sin as soon as they are born. How can a baby have sin? If you read the bible from start to finish, it’s disjointed, the books were written over 300 years after everything happened. It’s basically a book based on.300 years of Chinese Whispers. Nothing makes sense, it’s contradictory and it’s all a lie. IMO.
I'll try to spare everyone a lengthy paragraph of hateful bile. But I have zero, f*****g zero, use for religion or it's practitioners. The only debate for me is if it's more stupid than hateful, or hateful than hypocritical, or hypocritical than... There isn't enough "good works" Christians, Muslims and Jews could perform til the day they died to ever make up for the pure evil their nonsense faith has foisted upon the world. ... Signed, an angry ex-confirmed Catholic (15-19) AND ex-conservative evangelical christian (3-14). God, I'm nauseous with how upsetting this thread was to read. Yup, this is religion. F*****g worthless. Well, I failed.
I had to go church because if my religious great-grandmother. There, in the church, I had to listen priest, who was obviously misogynist, preaching about women being whores, because they wore sleeveless dress in the summer, or atheist being terrible people, no matter what they did, because they didn't believe in God. And then I saw how these "good christians" were mean-spirited, hateful people. I was just a kid, but it wasn't hard to notice that there's something very wrong.
I almost wish I had grown up in a tradition that was so overtly awful, because then I could have seen it for what it was sooner. Then again, I would think far less of my parents for associating with such people.
Load More Replies...So you sourced a Christian website for the below. How un-biased. Their order is wrong. I also added a few. 1. They are out of the habit. 2. They are scared to go back. 3. They are upset or bitter. 4. They are embarrassed. 5. It is not a priority for them. 6. Mental abuse by a member of the church or leader of the church 7. Physical abuse by a member of the church or leader of the church 8. Ostracisation by the church for not donating enough or not following orders 9. Being overtly racist, sexist or discriminatory with an excuse from a holy book written way after all the subjects in the holy book died.
I thank my mother every day that she never made me go to Sunday school. My grandparents were Catholic, but in the old-fashioned European way (my Nan, mainly) My grandfather, when he was in his early 20s (1950s Yugoslavia) did whatever work he could get. One job was helping clear out some tunnels in the city. One sealed tunnel held hundreds of tiny human bones. The tunnel led from a nunnery to a monastery. You fill in the blanks. My Poppy never set foot in church again. And when the American Westboro Baptist church f/wits cheered the 2009 Black Saturday bushfires here in Australia, when 173 people were killed, because of Australia's ''sins'', I completely lost it. I fkn hate religion in all forms.
On a school trip to a church I asked why it needed a lightning conductor. The vicar looked at me as if I was stupid and said that it was to protect the building from a lightning strike. I replied that I knew what the conductor did, but it seemed odd that they didn't trust God enough to protect His own house. The vicar grassed me up to my teacher and when we got back to school I was given 6 strokes of the cane for my disrespectful attitude. I still insist that a god that can't protect his own worshippers is no god at all.
If everyone will use his brain, logic and education no religion nor god can stand against them.
Load More Replies...Would love to see similar responses on why people have left other religions. I expect overlap but I'm hoping for differences.
Grew up Hindu. Left because I couldn't accept the caste system.
Load More Replies...Such a long story with me, but having been raised in a mainstream church, and then "born again" after being in crisis in college, I subsequently felt worse because I couldn't reconcile the blatant baloney in the Bible with what I knew was true, and the idea that a loving God would set up the world so that most would go to hell. I know a lot of terrific people who are Christians (and, of course, lots who aren't so great) but I feel so much better with the idea that things happen at random and it's enough to try to be a good person.
Because it’s all complete bōllocks. Why is his birth a fixed date but his so called death always changes date? That makes no sense. The deciding that Mary had a virgin birth took place in the 5th Century. The way they treat women in general, but Mary is revered more than anyone else. Everyone is with sin as soon as they are born. How can a baby have sin? If you read the bible from start to finish, it’s disjointed, the books were written over 300 years after everything happened. It’s basically a book based on.300 years of Chinese Whispers. Nothing makes sense, it’s contradictory and it’s all a lie. IMO.
I'll try to spare everyone a lengthy paragraph of hateful bile. But I have zero, f*****g zero, use for religion or it's practitioners. The only debate for me is if it's more stupid than hateful, or hateful than hypocritical, or hypocritical than... There isn't enough "good works" Christians, Muslims and Jews could perform til the day they died to ever make up for the pure evil their nonsense faith has foisted upon the world. ... Signed, an angry ex-confirmed Catholic (15-19) AND ex-conservative evangelical christian (3-14). God, I'm nauseous with how upsetting this thread was to read. Yup, this is religion. F*****g worthless. Well, I failed.
I had to go church because if my religious great-grandmother. There, in the church, I had to listen priest, who was obviously misogynist, preaching about women being whores, because they wore sleeveless dress in the summer, or atheist being terrible people, no matter what they did, because they didn't believe in God. And then I saw how these "good christians" were mean-spirited, hateful people. I was just a kid, but it wasn't hard to notice that there's something very wrong.
I almost wish I had grown up in a tradition that was so overtly awful, because then I could have seen it for what it was sooner. Then again, I would think far less of my parents for associating with such people.
Load More Replies...So you sourced a Christian website for the below. How un-biased. Their order is wrong. I also added a few. 1. They are out of the habit. 2. They are scared to go back. 3. They are upset or bitter. 4. They are embarrassed. 5. It is not a priority for them. 6. Mental abuse by a member of the church or leader of the church 7. Physical abuse by a member of the church or leader of the church 8. Ostracisation by the church for not donating enough or not following orders 9. Being overtly racist, sexist or discriminatory with an excuse from a holy book written way after all the subjects in the holy book died.
I thank my mother every day that she never made me go to Sunday school. My grandparents were Catholic, but in the old-fashioned European way (my Nan, mainly) My grandfather, when he was in his early 20s (1950s Yugoslavia) did whatever work he could get. One job was helping clear out some tunnels in the city. One sealed tunnel held hundreds of tiny human bones. The tunnel led from a nunnery to a monastery. You fill in the blanks. My Poppy never set foot in church again. And when the American Westboro Baptist church f/wits cheered the 2009 Black Saturday bushfires here in Australia, when 173 people were killed, because of Australia's ''sins'', I completely lost it. I fkn hate religion in all forms.
