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Laws are there for a reason, and it’s likely safe to assume that without them, chaos would ensue. However, while some rules are there to stop crime and wrongdoing against people, others seem to regulate situations where no one’s actually a victim.

The ‘Ask Reddit’ community members recently discussed what is or feels like a victimless crime. They shared their thoughts after the user u/secondfiddle00 started the thread, which covered everything from dumpster diving to collecting rainwater. Scroll down to find more of redditors' answers on the list below.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes As an ER nurse, I give a lot of s**t away to patients against the rules or advise them where they can get it cheaper. Big hospitals have more money than God, but want me to send you home with 1or2 wound supplies for a wound that will take 4 weeks to heal. F**k that. Here's a box of 50 for your purse. I never gave that to you. Hey, you need crutches, and here they are, but first. Before you sign that you got these. These crutches are $1000. The same or better are on Amazon for $50 or less. I'm not telling you how to live your life, but I can offer you a free wheelchair ride out to your sons car...

You could argue that the hospital is the victim here. I'm telling you that the hospital gets a discount on supplies and marks them up 1000% to sell to those going through an emergency. Who's really the victim?

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Appreciate all the support! Don't take this the wrong way, but I hope I never have the pleasure of taking care of any of you. Stay healthy people and keep living your life to the best you can.

To those saying I could get fired for this. I appreciate the concern. I can almost guarantee I will one day be fired for this. It's worth it to me. I will get another job in a different ER and continue my work.

Regarding the people saying I'm contributing to the problem. The problem is in the USA Healthcare model. Everything from insurance to CEOs. If my treatment and proper care of the individual is contributing to the problem, frankly, I don't think I care tbh. I will continue.

Lastly. Various arguments have been made to if this is a victimless crime or not. I don't disagree with some, but it's the closest thing I have to answer the question. Apologies if it doesn't 100% fit.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am starting to get at feeling this list should be marked "illegal in the US".

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This nurse oughta have a spot in our Government, the healthcare system needs more people like this

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I brought my own epilepsy meds to the hospital. The doctor asked me why and I told her because the hospital charges a ridiculous amount of money for everything. She just kind of laughed and said she couldn't disagree with me. The pharmacist has to check them out before they'll allow them to be used in the hospital, for insurance purposes of course. Can't have the ones robbing you getting sued.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Medication should be payed for by the government. My epilepsy medication is paid by the government hospitals should not be there to make money

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our local pharmacist is like this. If he sees doc has prescribed some brand name med he'll tell you about the cheaper generic version and let you choose. If you're on a good medical aid you take the brand name, if not you go for generic.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Australia all our chemists offer this. Then again, we have a pharmaceutical benefits scheme to make our prescriptions $7 if we have a healthcare card and $30 if we don't, for most medications.

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Premium 1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And ALWAYS demand an ITEMIZED bill from the hospital. When they know you'll be scrutinizing what they're billing, it's pretty much guaranteed that they'll lower the total amount due.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why has BP become such a platform for US problems??? 😓 this was supposed to be a wholesome, worldwide site for art, love, fun and humour. It’s getting worse every day…😢

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm an RN, lived and worked in the US for many years. Back home in the "Nordics", still an RN. My patients going home gets wheelchairs, walkers, oxygenators and so on for free.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was the maintenance super in a nursing home in the late 1980s. Whatever I needed, whether it was a replacement outlet or switch, was 5 times as expensive if it said "medical grade".

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Retired nurse here, worked in ER 6 years. Often gave patients supplies, especially dressings for wound care, at time of discharge. Took care of many who had no health insurance and couldn't afford necessary supplies.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once again it's a backdoor way to say America sucks. I imagine one of the next ones on the list will be "It's not illegal to peer at someone through a bathroom stall gap."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good for you healthcare should be a human right not a way to line pockets of ceos and administrators.hmm crutches for someone who really needs them ir another beach house for Biff,f that.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Healthcare in the US is a joke. I had a sever high ankle sprain, and needed a boot. I saw what the doctor chaeged, then saw a price on Amazon, and I was pissed!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I blatantly ask these questions. Until my out of pocket is met, then ef it, gimme the 1k crutches

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would be very much a crime in Ukraine and Russia,where many hospitals a Tually lack the bare necessary stuff and require patients to buy it elsewhere.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I certainly think that insurance is a scheme to defraud people of affordable healthcare. Universal health insurance would only be more expensive as insurance is a for profit model. An so they will want to tell you, rather than the physician, what care you will get.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to know why hospital food always tastes like soap. You never see anyone who works at the hospital eat patient food.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After hearing how it takes weeks or months to get a pathology report back in the UK I'll take my expensive healthcare here in the US.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Eh, I don't know. I've been waiting six months to see an ear, nose and throat specialist for sudden hearing loss in my ear. My husband had to wait ONE YEAR for an appointment with a dermatologist to find out if he had skin cancer or not. This is in the US.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In theory this sounds okay, but during Covid there were multiple cases of patients taking supplies themselves when they went to the hospital and stock got very low, so some staff had to re-use masks etc.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup. If anyone in your family ever needs crutches, keep those bad boys. Chances are, eventually someone else will need them at some point.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Long standing applause - you are a nurse for allllllll the right reasons

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, in Canada I think I paid $25 for a pair of crutches about 7 years ago.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if it is a crime she's doing what her heart dictates. Also I could not afford a $1000 for crutches. I appreciate her telling me where to get them cheaper. And yes, I would appreciate anything she can do for me. So unless you've been strapped for cash. And have stayed home because you can't afford medical service. Rethink what you're going to say?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not heroes wear capes, in fact, most heroes are nurses. You are such an amazing human being. it's not about if it's " theft " or not, it's about you doing something to help people who are are struggling to pay for things in a country where free healthcare should exist, but doesn't.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Crutches for $1000?'? Bro this system is completely f****d up.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the Netherlands you are required to bring all you meds and aid supplies with you to the hospital because it is too expensive for the hospital to give them to you. If you don't bring your own, you are not going to get it during your stay there. (You will get the cheapest meds if necessary, but you can be charged for it apart from the bill that is sent to your insurance company). And if you need anything additional, you have to request your GP for sending it to you (and find someone who is going to get it for you at the pharmacy :)). Many people think that health care in the Netherlands is great, however, it has been on a slopey hill downwards for many years now due to the market system in the health care. And it is reaching flat bottom nowadays where people are being sent home with legitimate health scares because the hospitals have no place for them (due to money issues only).

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Former nurse here and we've all done it especially I'd you have a patient you know will never be able to play the prescription charge and will not be able to get their meds. Although I'm the UK kids and young people still in education have free prescription . I've seen Mum's having to bring their little ones to A and E because they can't afford to feed their kids and buy over the counter meds. I'm the old days these items could be prescribed but now over the counter meds are not permitted to be prescribed. It is such a shame ,the NHS is a life saver and politicians are destroying it .

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Neatly illustrates the difference between the US money making health industry, and what the civilised world has.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sentiment is nice, but it’s illegal because it’s theft and you can be fired and/or prosecuted for it.

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That mark up, while outrageous, still isn't making a profit for the hospital. Handing out 50 of an item will get written off as stolen but enough of it will lead to an investigation. In 2022 US hospitals were facing billions in losses despite their fees.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

hospitals are not for making profits! Mistake one. Mistake two, you have no idea what will lead to an investigation.

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Assisted s*****e. As long as it’s humane, the person is of right mind and age, and there is sufficient cause for such a procedure. Death with dignity has been withheld for too long as a civil society.

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Anything related to food stamps. I’m sorry but food insecurity is not ok for anyone to go through. I don’t care about fudging the numbers to get food assistance. I don’t care about people who sell their food stamps (I know, it’s cards now, but you know what I mean). If you’re desperate enough to use fraud to get food or you’re selling your free food access to someone else who needs it because you need the money for bills, I’m ok with it.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Feeding the homeless in Texas. No victims but it is a crime.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Refusing to wear a hijab (in Iran)

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Sleeping in your car when you are too drunk and can't drive.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Giving water to voters in lines in GA

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes I see Jaywalking on this quite a but but I will say when I lived overseas, jaywalking even at 2 am on an empty street just didn't happen. When I asked a local (German) why he wouldn't cross against a no walking sign he said "what if a kid looked out the window and saw me, i don't want to set a bad example"

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Saving migrants from drowning

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Putting coins in someone else's parking meter.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Clicking "I am 18 years old" on an adult website when you're 17

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Downloading very old games that are no longer available for sale.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Picking up a bird feather found on the ground and keeping it. It's technically against the migratory bird laws.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Setting up a lemonade stand without a vendor license

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Feeding the homeless.

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Prostitution. Ain't nobody's business if two more more consenting adults conduct a financial deal that involves bodily fluids.

That's not to say that cheating, withholding health problems, and sex trafficking aren't victimless, but those aren't just merely prostitution.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Hanging a clothesline, collecting rainwater, or planting a garden in your yard. Some places ban you from doing these things

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Eating food out of someones garbage.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Being gay in a homophobic country

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Dumpster diving.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Wearing a dress as a man in Tennessee.

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I can take a seed at home, put rain water on it and expose it to sunlight, dry the flowers, bake them into a cake and make some THC edibles, and it doesn't even harm the air quality due to smoking. That's a crime. No money goes to criminal gangs, and I would risk losing my job and going to prison.

Or I can manufacture alcohol and sell it legally, knowing that it causes people health issues, and that others cause crimes when drunk and disorderly, and that's absolutely fine and not a crime.

Weird.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Hanging out in a public park after hours

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Selling alcohol on Sunday. It's still illegal in some States.

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Being an atheist in many many countries

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Stealing from a multi billion corporation

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Blasphemy

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes TONS of blue laws.

basically antiquated laws on the books that have to do with religion (mostly on sundays). In my state you can't buy alcohol on sunday before noon. And car dealers are not allowed to be open on sunday. Basically they are designed to not compete with church attending times like early morning.

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When cops pretend to be kids and get people for solicitation to a minor. When I worked at the district attorneys office we LOVED these. The shock on these men’s face when the “14 year old girl” they spoke to was our 6’5”, 300 pound 50 year old detective was just….amazing.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Speeding If traffic is all going above the speed limit. the safest speed is not the speed limit. The safest speed is the speed at which traffic is moving. speeding doesn't inherently cause accidents. differential in speed causes accidents.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Jaywalking when there are no cars on the road.

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Loitering. It's basically just existing somewhere.

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Collecting rain water (a crime in a lot of cities here in the US).

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Downloading games for obsolete consoles from companies which are now non-existent.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Pirating cute cat videos off the internet

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Keeping a seed from a plant you bought at a massive nursery and replanting it

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Prostitution: In places where it's illegal, consenting adults engaging in sex for money can be considered a victimless crime.

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Launching billionaires into the sun

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Handing out water to people in queues for the polling station.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Many things if they're simply not witnessed. Taking off your pants in the park at night is absolutely a crime (actually two separate crimes!), but if nobody is there to see it, no harm has been done, and there is nobody to be bothered that you trespassed after sundown.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Two adults mutually agreeing to fight

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Eating a magic mushroom you found in nature.

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Sheltering illegal immigrants

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Assuming you take care of them well and have the space for it, keeping farm animals in a residential neighborhood.

Not illegal everywhere, but it certainly is in my city! TLDR: I can’t get a goat.

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“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Emulating and/or pirating a game that is no longer available by any means

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sodomy

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Making the shed in the backyard 110 sqft instead of 100 without a permit 😱

yribbedvs Report

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#48

Tax evasion if you make less than 150k a year

Killer0nTheRoad Report

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#49

Loitering in a ghost town

impendingfuckery Report

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#50

In my home town it was illegal to own more than three cats or dogs per household and all can say about that it’s a stupid law for a stupid town. The local government said it was because the town is crucial for railroads and the coal industry which is true but that has jack s**t to do with how many pets can be owned.

Birds_are_gay Report

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13points
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#51

Fudging your sales price on used automobile sales.

The government has already received sales tax when the car was sold brand new. They're just double dipping when it gets sold as a used car

TN_REDDIT Report

Final score:
11points
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#52

“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Your passenger drinking a beer while you're driving.

InVultusSolis , energepic.com Report

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#53

“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Picking up a penny on the sidewalk... believe it or not it's a crime.

slayez06 , Roshan Report

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#54

Being naked in your own yard

addeleijon Report

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#55

Got this straight from "Office Space" movie.

Put a tenth of a penny out of all bank transactions into your bank account. Repeatedly.

Theoretically:
The tenth of a penny when withdrawn should round down to $0.00 for each one.
The sheer number of transactions added to the target account simultaneously should register a non zero number when added to it.

Nobody loses money, you gain money.

RageWynd Report

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#56

HOA violations

evangelionmann Report

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#57

Owning a sword

Scooter_Ankles891 Report

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#58

Buying directly from a craftsman

Oldassrollerskater Report

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#59

“Believe It Or Not, It’s A Crime”: 35 Examples Of Victimless Crimes Cutting off a tag from a mattress

beingjohnmalkontent , Max Rahubovskiy Report

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