And other people's children, as well.

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If mothers/fathers don't get the vaccine for their children because they believe their children don't need it and allow them to go to crowded indoor places, I would be angry. But if mothers/fathers don't get the vaccine for their children because they are afraid of the symptoms, it's perfectly understandable to me.

It's understandable to be terrified of something that DOES NOT EXIST . While screaming at the sane people that they refuse to " live in fear ". Gotcha . 🙄

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If you're vaccinated why do you care if I am? Vaccines or supposed to save the world. So if I'm not vaccinated it's only me that's going to get sick. But yet I haven't.

you could spread it to others that aren't thats the whole point and plus no vaccine is 100% effective i get people are worried about it i wont attack your beliefs because you are entitled to them whether i agree with them or not

I got fully vaccinated in the booster and guess what??...I just had covid like 2 weeks ago 😱😳.. and after I got vaccinated oh my God the next 3 or 4 days I was so sick...

... as opposed to being dead . That's the whole POINT of vaccines , nkaaayy ?

Theresa, vaccines don’t fully make you immune to Covid. It trains your immune system to fight the virus more effectively.

Some people have reactions after being vaccinated. It shows a strong immune system when they react in such a manner. As for having Covid, that sucks. I had Covid in March 2020, when we were told it wasn’t possible to get it in my state- yet I did. Got it again in June while vaxxed, boosted, & masked because people who came to the office weren’t & were coughing & sneezing. Claimed it was allergies. No, it was the latest variant & as a high risk individual- I ended up very sick, then got pneumonia after. I have lung damage. This on top of Long Covid from the original time. But because of vaccination- I didn’t die. And I’m damn grateful. I know I could’ve had I not- like one of those people who came to my office did a month later. So just keep aware of how you feel the next few months and see your doctor if things aren’t 100% normal. Long Covid is real and it’s no joke. It affects 12.5% of the population & HHS declared it a legal reason to need accommodations and medical help.

The problem comes when enough people aren't vaccinated that the virus still spreads, drawing out this whole thing for longer.

Vaccines aren't 100%. And frankly after having to do my utmost to protect my mom (whose immune system is SHOT due to Crohns) from people like you who substituted bacon grease for a chromosome, I unashamedly say people like you are the ones who don't deserve to be here anymore: Not the many who did everything right except for being in the grocery store at the same time as BRENDA here, who had to go and be a selfish fucktwat.

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OMG they're NOT killing their children. It's the VACCINATION that's causing Covid to mutate!!!

No . No . NO . Absolutely not . That is not how the disease mutates . That 's not how ANY DISEASE mutates. In related news , Tinkerbell is NOT REAL . Stop spreading insane lies , ok ?

Kellie, Covid is especially dangerous to small children. If you can’t talk sense don’t open your mouth.

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Hahahahah.... no they aren't... the jabs are

Truly? Are you really this obtuse? And you give yourself away by calling it "the jab". Come back with some research (from reputable sources) or just keep your mouth shut, and your fingers still.

There are entire countries where it's called the jab and advertising campaigns about "go get the jab" so I would suggest you're the one that needs tokeep your mouth shut and your fingers still.

And if they don't want to vax, don't flipping act like they know everything about it...wish they would just zip it! So sick of hearing them sound like they know it for a fact...duh!

That's a WHOLE different argument right there. I am 100% pro Vax and the Tetanus vaccination 100% saves lives and I think anyone who doesn't get it is just WRONG!!! But the Covid vaccination is something else ENTIRELY!!!

No. It's not . And you ppl are severely mentally ill. Which would be a " meh" if you weren't getting other folks dead . You should all be criminally prosecuted .

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hahahahaha

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Really its sad you guys still believe that even the experts you choose to follow dont even say that anymore. And stay pissed off because i have had COVID and i am fine so did everyonr else in my family

And my cousin was on a ventilator for 12 weeks, and in hospital for 4 months. Survived but now has ongoing lung problems, cough, headaches no sense of taste or smell. 😡😡😡

And my friend, who had every vaccination and her boosters and actually had the doctor come to her house because she never left the house and even wore a mask inside, died of covid. So it can go either way and I choose to not get vaccination that doesn't have any proof behind it because there's not been any time behind it. Anybody could say anything they want but there has not been enough time behind this vaccination to show the future effects. Nobody is a fortune teller. I don't care what any scientist out there says. Especially since in the last 2 years their science is changed so much people are stopping believing anything they say.

Thank you exactly my point the vaccine has not been around long enough to know what side effects may come of it...there's medication that was prescribed to people for 20 or 30 years and now we're finding out that it caused a plethora of side effects that were so detrimental it wasn't even worth taking the medication.. kind of like a heart pill my grandma took..it ended up causing a hole in her left ventricle which within a couple of months ended her life..she was so weak she couldn't survive the surgery to repair the hole in the ventricle... I think if we look 10-15 years from now at people who have been vaccinated compared to people who weren't I guarantee the ones who were will have some sort of ailment that can be linked back to the vaccine and just FYI I'm one of the people who got the vaccine because otherwise I wouldn't be able to work if I didn't.. and guess what I got fully vaccinated and I still got covid afterwards I just recovered from covid like a week and a half ago...

probably was sick before. or he's really old.

You have ZERO PROOF to say this!!!

Wow that's a really disgusting and offensive comment!!!

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Yes! My whole family had COVID and recovered just fine. I am now more immune than vaccinated peoples as I contracted the delta variant. Tell me why I need to be vaccinated? I am not anti-vax but just feel it’s pointless for me and I don’t want it. It’s pro-choice right?

They aren’t getting it from the Bible-I am pretty familiar with it. I defend their freedom to not get it, but I do not agree with the logic behind it. Luke was a physician, I’m sure he would have been excited at the concept of vaccines. However, the Bible also does not say anywhere “God helps those who help themselves”. Not sure where people are getting this from…

>> "Luke was a physician, I’m sure he would have been excited at the concept of vaccines. " That is the silliest statement (and most presumptuous) in this entire thread.

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I defend their freedom of choice, as well as mine. Because my choice was based on science, testing and validation-theirs on lacking knowledge they should be sequester. Let’s move them all to a high dry desert until this thing gets controlled. Justification: Laws are being broken and they are the perps. Why else did we write the laws. Let’s follow them because they were written to save lives. An extremely important distinction. Dang it. I just figured out why no penalties/punishment was dolled out. Midterm elections. Politicians must choose to fight battles they can win and if the fight over vaccines gets the orange jerk in Florida a chance back in office a few dying so the many can live is the appropriate choice.

If you're so smart, how many years did it take for doctors to realize that the medication they were giving pregnant women was actually messing up their children at birth? One year, 2 year, 3 years, 5 years, or 10 years? Just tell me how many years did they need information to put it all together that that medication was what was causing the problems. We don't have that many years behind this and I'm not going to be the guinea pig that is part of the numbers when they determine how bad something worked versus how well it worked. Considering there are billions of people who have never got the vaccination and have never got covid and there are trillions of people out there that got the vaccination and still got covid.

If you are referring to thalidomide , which is the only possibility here .. that was OVER SEVENTY YEARS AGO. I just " love " how the uneducated and bestially stupid as well as insane think that in SEVENTY YEARS noone in Science has discovered or changed a THING.

Omg. There are less than 8 billion people on the whole planet. 😂 "there are trillions of people out there that got the vaccination and still got covid." The more you talk, the more stupid you sound. I try to not be mean, but, dang.

There's not even a trillion people on the planet. The vaccine has been developed for awhile now ever since Mars and Sars popped up. Plus the concept of the vaccine has been around for awhile. You've been vaccinated as a child we all have. The vaccine is 95% effective which means 5% of people will still contract it but that's every vaccine. Vaccines aren't birth control vaccines produce antibodies in your immune system so you're not being used as a guinea pig that's s different type of medication. There's no length of time to test, the vaccines going to do exactly what it's doing now 100 years from now with the same results.

Oh yes science.. you do realize that the science on things is ever-changing..things that we thought were safe 5-10 years ago, we're finding out are no longer safe.. medications that we thought were safe for decades we are finding out aren't.. science told us they were and now scientists are telling us they're not...science is a merry-go-round of ever changing thoughts..you cannot trust science because what one scientist says is okay another will tell you is not.. you have to trust yourself and you have to be informed and weigh the risks versus the rewards and if you don't have enough data to show you what the risks are then how can you intelligently choose if it's worth it? And that's a lot of the points the anti-vaxxers are making and they're very valid. the vaccine we're saying is okay now but who's to say 10 years from now scientists won't tell us that we literally put poison in our bodies?

Of course science is everchanging ! Are you GENUINELY so stupid you think that's an INSULT? Or a legitimate CRITICISM ? Oh , my god . A scientist discovers something NEW , of course a change occurs ! And of course on the basis of the new discoveries you end up discarding what you USED to think was correct . That's the way Science ( and FACTS in any profession ) work!

The CDC says, “People who are up to date on vaccines have much lower risk of severe illness and death from COVID-19 compared with unvaccinated people,” so it admits that vaccinated people can get it. Of course if they can get it, they can transmit it. So by that principle the vaccinated need to be isolated. Meanwhile, it says only 52.6% of the people in my county are vaccinated, but it’s ALREADY under control. Level: “low”, “Case Rate per 100,000 population: 110.73; New COVID-19 admissions per 100,000 population: 5; % Staffed inpatient beds in use by patients with confirmed COVID-19: 0.9%.” Practically nobody wears masks here anymore. You can’t catch viruses in things full of holes vastly bigger than the viruses, and which air carries the viruses around them in large clouds (visible in the cold for example). We’ll stay in our healthy county (which isn’t in FL) that we’re not breaking any laws in, & you can go live in that desert. By the way, it’s “sequestered”, & “doled”.

That made .. zero sense . You want to separate those FAR LESS LIKELY to be infected OR infectious . You.... failed every Science class you ever took didn't you ?

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And you really think the mess had anything to do with it? How do you think we got the air in those masks? It was long the side of the mask and the top of the mask and the bottom of the mask. We didn't have an oxygen tank attached to those masks. And those masks aren't made out of one-way material. If the air can go out the air can come in. It's more on like you that really believe these mass add anything to do with it.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say God helps those who help themselves. Maybe you weren't paying attention.

2 Thessalonians 3:10 “For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.””

Thank you for quoting one little part of an entire paragraph. Nothing like taking it out of context. He's talking about the idol and disruptive. He's not talking about the general public. And it wasn't even God who said it. It was a rule made by man. Just like everybody else who tries to use the Bible to their advantage. You always take things out of context and try and make it look like God said it or it's the truth.

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I believe in vaccinations, but what Bible school did you go to? "God helps those who help themselves " is not IN theBible, and therefore, highly unlikely to be anyone's catechism. And that's pretty basic.

OMG people who don't believe in vaccines and modern science and medication because of their religion kill me.. like y'all have been praying to God to help you and guess what he gives somebody the idea to come up with either a vaccine a medication a cure whatever for the ailment that you have hey that's God answering your prayer.. there's an episode of family Guy with a sick kid I don't know it might have been American Dad but I think it was family Guy and the sick kids parents won't get him treatment because of their religion and Brian who's an atheist has had enough of it and he takes the kid to the doctors and the parents flip out because it's against the religions and if God wanted him to be healed he would heal him well guess what God gave us the means to heal him I.e the medication and the doctors

Ok I think it's stupid to be against a vaccination because of "God" but just because a scientist came up with the vaccination, it doesn't automatically guarantee that it's safe to take. There is a lot of hit and miss when it comes to science, and if you deny that, then you're looney toons.

Especially if it was Trump's warp speed vaccine that he constantly brags about saving millions of lives. Even. Kamala Harris said she wouldn't take It.

Ok NOT taking the vaccination because of "God" is stupid, I can agree with you on that ONE MILLION PERCENT!!!

The problem is you had to memorize a catechism in school. These vaccinations are killing people and people that don't see that are keeping their eyes closed. So that they're not embarrassed to realize they went with everybody else and got something brand new. Hope you didn't want grandchildren.

And how many hospital beds are full of vaccinated people? Come on show both sides of the story. Where are those numbers? People are dying from these vaccinations. And people are dying whether they have the vaccinations or not from covid. And people come back with the fact that they say that covid vaccinations weren't going to keep you from dying. Well then why bother getting them? Let me make my own decision. If I die why do you care? If I get sick why do you care? Vaccinated or unvaccinated you can carry and distribute covid. So why do you care if I'm vaccinated. If your vaccinated you should be fine. Stay out of my business it's like wearing a condom so that I don't get pregnant. Doesn't make much sense.

Virtually none. It's not that noone will discuss the numbers of the VAXXED that end up in the hospital ... it's that there's nothing TO dicuss . You people are criminally insane , and that's all there is to it .

LOL that's a LIE!!!

So you gonna make someone get vaccinated??? Gonna get a gun and threaten to hurt some one if they don't? So enlightened and intelligent

Yeah. But GUARANTEED if it was something that THEY didn't want to get, it would be the TOTAL OPPOSITE!!!

Your being pissed off doesn't make anyone care, and you are not the discussion referee. It will be enough when people decide to stop.

And my friend Betty stayed in her house and wore a mask. Stop seeing your grandkids for 2 years. Made the doctor come to her to give her her vaccinations and her boosters. Got all her food delivered. Ended up in the hospital and died of covid. So how is your story any different than mine? It doesn't change a damn thing. It's to make you feel like you're going to be okay. And why do you care if I'm vaccinated? Why do you care so much about my health? Vaccinated people still carry the virus. So it really doesn't matter if I'm vaccinated or not. It would be like you wearing a condom so I don't get pregnant. Or you taking the pill so that I don't get pregnant. You can't protect me so stay out of my business.

I totally agree...they don't give a damned about anyone else, including their own families. Big talker dad doesn't believe in vaccines, so the kids don't get them since dad knows best, and his child dies from COVID...who will the idiot blame then?? The doctors, for not saving his kid. TRUE MORON big mouth.

And exactly how many people that got vaccinated still died of covid? Can you answer that one? I love how people only tell one side of the story. People die every day of covid who have gotten their vaccinations and their boosters. People can get this covid 3 or 4 times even though they say that you have a built up immunity if you get covid. Which is supposedly science which is obviously b******* or people wouldn't be getting it two or three times. I have not been vaccinated nor of my kids and nor are they going to and until they have at least 10 years behind it and I know what all the side effects are and they're actually going to be honest about those side effects. Just like gardasil. People are dying from it kids are getting sick constantly and they know it and now they're pushing it to boys? They don't care about our health. It's money. We all are not so stupid to think this doesn't have a lot to do with money.

There's so many people myself included that have been vaccinated and still get covid and then there are people that get vaccinated don't get sick from it but still carry covid around and infect others.. and honestly the vaccine hasn't been around long enough to know what the long-term effects of it will be the only reason I even got vaccinated it was because it was requirement for my job if I wanted to keep my job I had to get vaccinated and guess what I have mouths to feed my babies need me to work so I had to do what I had to do and I still got covid afterwards though heck just couple weeks ago I was sick with covid and I've been fully vaccinated since the beginning of the year..🤨

Or died from the vaccine?

Kids don't need them, and shouldn't get them. That has not been news for a long time.

You are wrong

Who the HELL are you to say that ANYONE is wrong??? You CANNOT say that!!! You have ZERO PROOF OF THAT!!!

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Why get it for other people? What foolishness do you speak of? I'm not an experiment! You apparently are. You vaxxers can still spread the virus, idiot. You can still die from covid. I can't handle stupid people!

You shouldn't, bc all the vaxxed are either dying or becoming injured. Evolution is working just fine!👍🏼

Stick around and we'll all have powers, eventually. The X-Men are proof.

What's a moronic comment.

They'll NEVER apologise. They probably STILL think that they're right, no matter what the data says. That's how people are!!! If you haven't noticed, I have EXTREMELY low faith in humanity!!!

I think everyone should be neutral. I think everyone needs to stay out of everyone else's business. I'm so tired of seeing all the fighting from people just because someone believes differently than they do!!! If it's not vaccinations then it's damn politics!!!

You said it! You said it perfectly. And your comment was hidden too. Go figure. Anybody that says anything negative against the vaccine all their comments are hidden. Whoever's monitoring this page is definitely one-sided.

Yep I'm not vaccinated and I've NEVER had it!!! The ONLY people I know of that have had it, have been vaccinated against it!!!

The longer what takes?

The vaccine doesn't automatically save you either. I've known two people that had the vaccine and booster-died from covid. I've known 3 that had blood clots and one had a stroke right after getting the vaccine. If you've had covid, it's highly unlikely you'd need the vaccine. People have the right to choose what goes into their bodies. Where's the "my body my right" people now?

Steph B. You said a mouthful. My body, my right. And someone else getting the vacs isn't going to protect me. It'd be like saying if you get the vaccine it's like wearing a condom so that I don't get pregnant. Go get your vaccine. It's not going to save you for anything but go ahead and try anyway. You're either going to die or you're not going to die. It really doesn't matter if you got the vaccine or not. I never got the vaccine and neither of my children and none of us have gotten covid. My husband did get the vaccination and he actually got really really sick. So I'd like to think that maybe I made the better choice.

Evidence comes after years and years and years of a study. And then they'll still lie to make money. Do your research on gardasil. They know for a fact that it's killing teenage girls and now they're pushing it on boys. Science isn't part of this. It's money. Science has changed so much in the last 2 years that if you're using science to back yourself up you're nuts. Science is constantly changing. They were guessing and guessing and guessing and guessing and guessing and now we're told we don't have to wear masks cuz they weren't working. But I bet you warriors the whole time. And I bet you still got covid too didn't you?

LOL there IS no scientific evidence!!!

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maybe a little pity - but mostly just stupid, dumb people wanting to be noticed.

You love when people die?

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if 10 kids are playing and one is going to literally explode killing all the children would you not push the exploding kid off the cliff before it explodes to save the others?

Children’s rate of “death involving COVID” (not even “caused by COVID”) is 0.1%, as per the CDC: 1,062/1,001,061. So if 1 on the playground has it, it would be basically a freak accident for the COVID explosion to kill anyone else. But you will murder an innocent child…

What?!?!!!??!?!

Your reveling in the death of another human being because they don’t think the same way as you, and you think your the morally superior one in this situation?

don't think there is reveling going on - just the fact that if you are intending to kill me i would rather it be that you,

So you think that you are that important, that someone CHOOSING not to get the vaccination is "intending" to kill you??? Get over yourself snowflake, you're not that special. I highly doubt that ANYONE is thinking of you!!!