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When Harvard professor Moshik Temkin was in France, he had to see a doctor. At the time, he didn't have health insurance, so Temkin couldn't know what to expect. The appointment could have taken a serious bite out of his pocket. But it didn't. In fact, it was so cheap compared to what he's used to in the United States, Temkin even tweeted out his experience.

The tweet instantly went viral, inspiring other people to share stories as well. Continue scrolling and take a look at some of the most popular ones.

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Sum Guy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our hospitals in Eswatini might not be up to par with the world... it's a 3rd world african country after all, but I had my wisdom tooth removed for about $4 total, pain meds included. Also sometime last year I had to get a couple of tests and scans including X-rays. total cost, 20 emalangeni which is just over 1 US dollar.

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According to the Commonwealth Fund, which regularly ranks the health systems of a handful of developed countries, in 2017, the best countries for health care were the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and Australia. The United States came in last. The country's health care system, the report says, spends far more than other high-income countries yet has gaps in the quality of care. And this is consistent throughout 20 years.

The U.S. had the worst performance score overall and ranked last or near last on the Access, Administrative Efficiency, Equity, and Health Care Outcomes domains. Based on a broad range of indicators, the U.S. health system is an outlier and should look at other countries' approaches if it wants to become an affordable, high-performing health care system that serves all Americans.

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Freya the Wanderer
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shameful. The USA pays more per capita on health care than any other country, so I've heard, yet we have the highest maternal death rate of any first-world country. We are sick and getting sicker.

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"The United States spends far more on health care than other high-income countries, with spending levels that rose continuously over the past three decades," the report said. "Yet the U.S. population has poorer health than other countries. Life expectancy, after improving for several decades, worsened in recent years for some populations, aggravated by the opioid crisis. In addition, as the baby-boom population ages, more people in the U.S.—and all over the world—are living with age-related disabilities and chronic disease, placing pressure on health care systems to respond."

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Radek Suski
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They don't do it anymore in Germany. The TV is free. I mean it wouldn't work these days anyway as almost everyone have at least a smartphone

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The important thing is that timely and accessible health care could mitigate many of these challenges, but the U.S. health care system fails to deliver required services reliably to all who could benefit. Particularly, poor access to primary care has contributed to inadequate prevention and management of chronic diseases, delayed diagnoses, incomplete adherence to treatments, wasteful overuse of drugs and technologies, and coordination and safety problems.

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am_c0m0
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Canada, I had a hysterectomy and stayed at the hospital 5 days. My Medicare was expired , they told me to come in when I got my new one. While I was waiting for it, I got a bill from the hospital: over $10,000! A few days later, went with my new Medicare card, they registered it and I paid $0.00, including my new Medicare card.

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL. American: "I paid 49 Euro for a doctor visit and meds!!!" European: "Dude, you've been robbed!!"

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The Commonwealth Fund's president, David Blumenthal, said at the Spotlight Health Festival, which is co-hosted by the Aspen Institute and The Atlantic, that there are 3 main reasons why the United States lags behind its peers.

Firstly, a lack of insurance coverage. A common talking point on the right is that health care and health insurance are not equivalent—that getting more people insured will not necessarily improve health outcomes. But Blumenthal stated: "The literature on insurance demonstrates that having insurance lowers mortality. It is equivalent to a public-health intervention."

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Netherlands: 140 Euro per month for insurance. Co-payment 385 Euro per year. No payments to doctors for visits or house calls, very minor contributions to prescriptions until you've maxed out your co-payment for that year.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Went to the ER for food poisoning (after debating if I really needed to go)...one bag of IV, one tiny pill and 5 hours later...bill came out to $10,000. US medical system is a joke.

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Amy S
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the NHS too, not perfect but my daughter almost died during labour and I can't imagine worrying about how I was going to pay for the treatment.

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More than 27 million people in the United States were uninsured in 2016, which is nearly a tenth of the population. That's mostly because they can’t afford coverage, live in a state that didn’t expand Medicaid, or are undocumented. Those aren’t problems that people in places like the United Kingdom worry about.

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Sum Guy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just an American thing. most places around the world try to do their best... The americans are all about FREEDOM

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't Bored Panda staff get rid of this Hazel Lily shmuck? Except for Parkinson's, apparently she is also suffering from memory loss because she posts the same damn comment everywhere!!! We get it....ultimate herbal clinic.... the answer to everything. Suffering from a disease? Ultimateherbclinic. Suffering from stupidity, Ultimateherbclinic. Lost a nipple? Want to become pen pals with a rehabilitated serial killer? You know it people...... Ultimateherbclinic. Get out!

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Next, administrative inefficiency. "We waste a lot of money on administration," Blumenthal explained. According to the Commonwealth Fund's report, in the United States, "doctors and patients [report] wasting time on billing and insurance claims. Other countries that rely on private health insurers, like the Netherlands, minimize some of these problems by standardizing basic benefit packages, which can both reduce the administrative burden for providers and ensure that patients face predictable copayments." To put it simply, while insurance coverage, in general, is great, it's not ideal that different insurance plans cover different treatments and procedures, forcing doctors to spend precious hours working with insurance companies to provide care.

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop voting for people who think that universal health care is socialist and that article 25 of the universal declaration of human rights is just a joke.

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Luis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A brick hit my left foot toe and get broke, after 3 hrs and 300 for the X-rays, they ask me 3,700 for the surgery ( with the insurance that I pay 350 per month) I went to Mexico, 35 dlls for the appointment and the X-rays, Dr told me can make the surgery right there; he did it, and charge me 175 dlls I live in the border, I just cancel my insurance in USA and get it in Mexico... Now I pay 125 for my and my wife and my 2 sons, and I'm covered 100% and my copay is 125 dlls for any procedure We may need...

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Finally, underperforming primary care. "We have a very disorganized, fragmented, inefficient, and under-resourced primary care system, "Blumenthal explained. The Commonwealth Fund found that many primary-care physicians struggle to receive relevant clinical information from specialists and hospitals, complicating efforts to provide seamless, coordinated care.

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Cassie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"American aversion to going to the doctor" - We hit a rough patch years ago where we didn't have insurance. The kids had Medicaid, but adults generally don't qualify. I broke my foot (dropped a very heavy washing machine on it and there was really no question that it was broken) but refused to go to the hospital for it because there was no way I could afford it. Even with insurance, I'm terrified that one of us will need to go to the ER. It's $150 just to walk in the door and there's no telling what seeing the doctor or getting tests will add to that. Suffering and self-treating are too common here.

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Carl Fraser
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hubby developed pneumonia with sepsis in Tokyo. 10 days in hospital, so many blood tests, x-rays, scans etc, even the hospital were worried about the bill. Ended up being $22,000 [Australian] and after our insurance paid out their bit, we were left with a bill of . . . . . . . NOTHING.

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Tanya Fisher-Lehmann
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The cost in Germany is €10 per day in the hospital. But you only have to pay 280€ maximum per year (4 weeks), no matter how long or often you are in any hospital. That's the cost of food and linen basically.

On top of a lack of investment in primary care, "we don't invest in social services, which are important determinants of health," Blumenthal added. Things like home visiting, better housing, and subsidized healthy food could extend the work of doctors and improve chronic disease outcomes.

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Louise B
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

UK resident; The NHS is the best thing about this nation. Imagine not having pay to be unwell 😮 It's a shame that conservatives just love trying to destroy it xxx

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Tom Krysiak
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course you do! You deserve a health system that's not a corporation...

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AY1984
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Concierge typically happens when doctors have single practices and are not part of a medical group. Basically it is a standard payment they are ensuring they get from you to be their patient. That way if you use them 0 times a year, they are still getting money from you regardless if they treat you or not. You don't typically see this with major medical groups because the doctors contract with the medical groups to get so much money a year and the medical groups will handle all the finances.

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chi-wei shen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does this mean he was employed by his doctor? Sorry, my English isn't good enough to fully understand this.

Melissa TO
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is becoming more and more common, this concierge thing.

McSydney
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or, how about the “facility fee” that is charged on top of the dr fee for the privilege of using the office or clinic. Unbelievable!!! Why do they do it, because they can.

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Find a good friend in Spain who will send you your inhalers. Perhaps we could make it a business. "Good friends for Americans" We buy your meds in Europe, send them to you and you pay us the meds, shipping costs and a little surcharge of $5 per shipment. Happy days for everyone...

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James016
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Makes you wonder why bother with insurance with those amounts

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Kim Irving
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paid $25 for a private room when I gave birth to my minions. That's it.

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So you're saving money when you have a vacation in Europe, give birth and relax for a week in a private hospital.

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Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had quite specialised surgery last Oct in Belgium, needed to spend the night there and if course eat and get medication. I got constant visits from the nurses who were more than wonderful. I paid like 120 in total.

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Smuggling meds to keep your kid alive. Can't get any more 3th world country than that.

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So you're insured but you also aren't really insured because you can't afford the check ups you should have and which would be free if you had a real insurance. Isn't that paying for an insurance that doesn't insure you?

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A bit unrelated but the blue check-mark next to a persons name means that they are a moderator right?

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Karl Baxter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is a disgraceful and immoral way to run medical care. I’m amazed that there appears to be so much resistance to it. Is it because individualism has been so drummed into the population that the idea of a collectivist response to medical need is a step too far? I’ve heard terms like “socialism” and “Marxism” bandied about by some naysayers but I’m not sure these people actually understand what these mean. If collective affordable healthcare is indeed the mark of the beast then the majority of the world must be under the heel of communism. Some things just work better when everyone gets together for the common good. After all, everyone pays for the fire brigade and police regardless if your house goes on fire or not so it’s not a great leap to extend this to medicine.

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EQXL
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to mention how much more work they can get done if they aren't constantly filing huge amounts of paperwork.

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James016
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some doctors care more about their patients' health than the billing

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Fred Van Der Zee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So it would have been cheaper to extend the vacation and have all the treatment in Barcelona.

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Kharyss
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except to the British taxpayer! Yes, we are lucky to have a “free at point of use” healthcare system. But medical tourists who come to our country to take advantage of this like you did should be billed in full at US rates. If you don’t pay into the system, you shouldn’t benefit from it and should pay before you’re discharged. (except emergency treatment that could be billed back later)

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the EU the doctors decide what scans, checks ups and treatment you need to have. Not the insurer.

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rorofunkytoe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All prescriptions are also free in Scotland but could be for us Scots!

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Penny Fan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a UK citizen living in Vienna in the 90s I had to pay medical insurance ( Something like $20 a month), I then paid for treatment and submitted it to the insurers who paid up straight away in full. I had a PAP smear done at the top gynae clinic in Vienna, in the heart of the old city just because I could. It was actually pleasant.

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Shaun Coleman
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So basically, if you get sick or injured in the US it is cheaper to fly to Europe and get treated as an uninsured person than to get treated in the US.

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He could have gotten 30 days of paid sick leave if he needed it. And if there were complications and it would take 6 months to recover, he would have gotten 6 months of paid sick leave.

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