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40 Screenshots Of People Who Are Unaware Of The Existence Of LGBTQ People And It’s Like They’re Living Under A Rock
LGBTQ history dates back to the first recorded instances of same-sex love and sexuality in ancient civilizations. Ancient Egyptian royal servants Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum, who lived c. 2400 BCE, are believed to be the first recorded same-sex couple in history, so you get the perspective.
But many oblivious people refuse to believe that being homosexual, bisexual, queer, and transgender are as old as history itself. In fact, some delusional people would go as far as to think they've spotted actual mistakes in movies, books, and media that speak of LGBTQ existence in the past.
And thanks to the wonderfully colorful corner of reddit “Sappho And Her Friend,” “a sub dedicated to historical and other LGBTQ erasure from academia and other spaces,” we have the cringiest collection of such delusional examples.
The subreddit that, according to its description, is “Mostly humorous but open to serious discussion as well,” was created a year ago and has since gained a 266k-solid fanbase who waste no time to cut the crap.
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#1
That Dad’s Name? Harold
#2
Saw This On Facebook Today
#3
Yes, Very Heterosexual Indeed.
Kines Tezja 3 years ago
Yeah, as a Pole I can assure you that you can tell the difference even in XIXth century letters.
Steve 3 years ago
I can definitely see that the male writer was very much interested in poles
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Ilsa Laszlo 3 years ago
Pole here - it is not in language or "romantic manner", that is just a romance. But in Poland there are histiorians who will die in fight over it and sell bulshit like "style", "epoque vibes". Also, I am polish filologist and I read a lot romatic letters and diaries. That is not epoque or style, just affair and desire ;)
deanna woods 3 years ago
Yeah, every heterosexual wants to kiss someone of the same sex for absolutely no reason. People really need to get over their insecurities when discussing gay people.
Vicky Zar 3 years ago
Polish born here. I don't think a polish guy would write "give me your lips" to another guy when they are just friends. Polish people are nowadays as prude and against homosexuals as US Americans.
Marta Dyrgała 3 years ago
I'm polish and while I agree with the first half of your comment, I can't agree with the second one. Not all polish people are against lgbt, many people are very supportive. Homophobes are in every nation. Our govenment being complete morons is another topic though.
Load More Replies... Pangolin Pal 3 years ago
I thought it was pretty widely known that Chopin was bisexual. His longest and most stable romantic relationship was with a woman, Aurore Dudevant/George Sand - but it does seem that in his younger years he was mostly involved with guys. (And, not for nothing, George Sand was probably also bisexual, preferred to dress as a man and to use her chosen male name - she was anything but a conventional 19th-century woman!)
Mikołaj Witkowski 3 years ago
As a Polish person I can confirm that while of course languages are different and time has changed, many of these quotes sound obviously sexual to a Polish speaker and it did sound the same then.
Marco Conti 3 years ago
I knew Chopin was gay back when I was in conservatory in Italy in 1978. They even made a movie about it. I am also trilingual and no matter the language "give me your lips" and "I love you to madness" is pretty hard to misunderstand in translation.
Lynn Morello 3 years ago
Yup. unlike some people of the 20's, they have much stronger and much less fragile personalities.
On Thursday, February 25, The House of Representatives voted to pass the Equality Act, a bill that would ban discrimination against people based on sexual orientation and gender identity. It would also substantially expand the areas to which those discrimination protections apply. The Equality Act would enable protections within education, particularly on how teachers implement LGBTQ-inclusive curriculum.
But when it comes to education from an early age, LGBTQ curriculum is still widely underrepresented in classrooms. Only five states announced in 2019 that LGBTQ history must be taught in public schools, with California being the first. Here, it’s been required from schools to teach kids LGBTQ History since 2011, and the first K-8 textbooks should be approved to meet new state standards in six years.
#4
They Are Lesbians Goddammit
#5
Just A Fan
#6
They Were Housemates
On the other hand, enforcement, funding, and teacher preparation are often ambiguous. This has partly to do with the fact that even though the history of LGBTQ people is as old as history itself, the history of its curriculum is relatively short. From the creation of LGBT History Month in 1994 to the National Park Service’s first report on LGBTQ historic sites in 2016, the last decades showed a promising increase in mainstream teaching of LGBTQ history.
According to historian Eliza Byard, Executive Director of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), “A lot of us grew up with history taught to reinforce the idea that only certain ways of being are natural. It is hugely important that every child understand the complexity of human history in all different dimensions in order to have a full understanding of the past, present and possible futures, and that’s what this is ultimately about.”
#7
"But Hey That's Just A Theory"
#8
An Interesting Title
#9
Two Bro-Ets, Chillin In An Apartment
With LGBTQ-inclusive curriculum, there’s hope of a higher level of education from people about same-sex love and gender inclusivity. It’s a much-needed mark of progress which, if anything, came a little too late. Moreover, teaching LGBTQ history in schools will have a tremendously positive impact on the members of the LGBTQ community who will feel less unsafe for their sexual orientation.
GLSEN’s National School Climate Survey backs it up. It showed that LGBTQ students in schools with an LGBTQ-inclusive curriculum—compared to their counterparts in schools without that curriculum—were “less likely to feel unsafe because of their sexual orientation (41.8% vs. 63.3%) and gender expression (34.6% vs. 47%).”
#10
Medical Classmates
#11
His Roommate Is So Nice
#12
Just A Friendly Reminder, The History Books Accidentaly Forgot A Few Pages From Anne's Diary
#13
Gay Irl
#14
Just Guys Being Dudes
Víctor Alfonso García Olmo 3 years ago
No way man!!! The ancient greeks were bisexuals. No shame, until the Christianity said it was a capital fault.
#15
Two Very Good Friends
Lily Mae Kitty 3 years ago
ok, this is not actually gay! This is an advertisement for wives. Things were very different in the past. Not everything that looks gay to our modern sensibilities actually is. This was a very common thing to have a pic taken with friends and post to the newspaper in rural areas. It was expensive for one man to do, so he might pose with a brother or friends.
#16
Two Bros Sharing Storage Space
#17
We Must Be Careful Not To Jump To Conclusions
#18
But How Certain Is She?
#19
Greece Wasn't Gay
#20
Such A Wholesome Friendship. But Where Are Their Wives?
#21
Just A Couple Of Cowboys
#22
No, We're Sisters
#23
Hmm, But Who’s Getting Married?
#24
Oh My God They Were Strangers
François Carré 3 years ago
There is too much in that picture for a conservative brain to proceed correctly. Two colored women of two different cultural styles cannot also be lesbians.
#25
Two “Comrades” Naked On The Beach
#26
I Think This Counts (Xena And Gabrielle)
#27
Did I Find One?
#28
"Her Alter Ego"
#29
Lol They’re Married
#30
We're Both Girls
#31
Couldn’t Possibly Speculate What They’re Up To
Martha Meyer 3 years ago
Guys, people back then shared beds all the time. There was barely any privacy and servants would often sleep in the same room as their employers and their employers children. A mistress and servant sleeping in the same bed doesn't automatically mean they were a couple. The fact that they embrace is the real clue imo.
#32
I Checked The Comments; And Yeah, She Was Serious
#33
Travelling Buds
#34
A Likely Story
kath morgan 3 years ago
All we can say is that they were close enough that their loved ones thought they’d like to be laid to rest together. I think that’s lovely
#35
Because They're Bi, Harold. Get Over It
#36
This Piece Is Called "Brotherhood Of The Nations" Lmao
#37
I Can't Titles
#38
My Friends Got Engaged This Weekend, A Distant Cousin Chimed In
#39
Like Mother And Daughter
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Cori 3 years ago
I can't wait for the day when 'coming out' is no longer a thing. When I go car shopping and buy a truck instead of a car, I don't have to 'come out' as a truck owner because it's a super boring non issue. 'Cool. You bought a truck. Wanna go grab some pizza?' People's sexuality should be like that.
Eliška Hůlková 3 years ago
Downvote me as you want, but I've always found the idea of life-long platonic friendship, as seen in some historical periods, very touching. It'd be quite a dissapointment if it turned out that ALL these pairs were gay. Nothing against LGBT people, but why we can't have any non-sexual relationships?
Aliquid A 3 years ago
That's a legit comment. Guys should be able to have a "bromance" without people assuming they are gay, and gay couples should be able to have a romance, without people pretending they are straight.
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• Lemønchu • 3 years ago
In the old English dub of Sailor Moon, there's a lesbian couple. So instead of making them lesbian... THEY MADE THEM COUSINS. THEY MADE A F*****G LESBIAN COUPLE COUSINS. So you have "cousins" flirting and holding hands...
juice 3 years ago
Russia tried to censor Ruby and Sapphire from Steven Universe. they edited a mustache onto Ruby and tried to make her a dude...but Rebecca Sugar got back at them in the best way 05c723be99...1515a5.jpg 
Suzy the observer 3 years ago
I cannot wait for the day when we say "couple' instead of "mix-race-trans-lesbian-couple" (just an example). People should have the safe space to just be without the need for explanations or categorizing. The terms "outing" and "coming out" should not even exist. Whatever happens between two consenting adult humans is no one else's business. Let people live peacefully and authentically.
Don't Look 3 years ago
Ah, labeling. The government loves it (because without it they don’t know how to categorize and collect) and therefore all the public workers have to live it. Makes everything rational people want to go with antisocietal.
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Random Anon 3 years ago
I guess people still want to live in denial. Homosexuality is nothing new. It's been around since the dawn of time. It's even prevalent in the animal kingdom so I never understood the sanctimonious decadent human against-natural spiel through out history.
Cian Thomas McHugh 3 years ago
And as well as that, LIVING PAST 30 is against nature.
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Cosmetica Solist 3 years ago
My brothers longtime best friend is gay. They lived together for 5 years and does everything together. In this case it's the opposite: people are always like "sure they're 'just friends'" *wink wink goofy smile. But my my brother is a grown ass man completely secure and comfortable in his gender and sexuality (straight). He comes from a family where our dad has always openly poly-amorous, our sister openly gay, and of course, he has a gay best friend that his entire family adores. If he was gay, bi or anything else, he would just be it. But for some reason some people can't wrap their heads around a healthy, loving, and supportive male friendship. This is also really sad to me.
Dodo 3 years ago
I love the idea of healthy, loving, supportive friendships, whatever your sex/gender. And I hate when people are like 'this person died without ever getting married, they were obviously gay'. Wrt this article though, a lot of them are totally ignoring the obvious.
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Dobby The House Elf 3 years ago
Random person in history: says or does something that clearly shows they are gay/lesbian/trans+ Historians: GeE i WoNdEr WhAt tHaT cOuLD mEaN
Chodz 3 years ago
As a gay man I loathe the term LGBTQI+. Being gay has nothing in common with gender identity politics. LGB and the rest should go separate ways.
Parmeisan 3 years ago
But the two groups have been interconnected from waaay back (if I recall my history correctly, it started as gay men + transgendered activists around the time of Stonewall). It's the same fight (to be legally and socially recognized as equal) - why would you feel the need to separate yourself from the non-gender-conforming folk?
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Jay Weigel 3 years ago
Sometimes you just want to bang someone's head against the nearest wall......
Logic and Reason 3 years ago
I didn’t really see an issue with the ones talking about friendship. When they say ‘oh what great friends you are’, I hope that’s the case. It would be pretty awful if you weren’t friends with your SO.
she/they and probably gay 3 years ago
https://twitter.com/KellyWatsonTX, so i dont have a twitter account but i found her, omg shes so stupid
Maya Kuntz 3 years ago
I see her posts about there being no gay animals and I'm thinking about the gay penguins on here and the story about the first time scientists found octopuses(?) mating in the wild it was two males.
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Stella 3 years ago
Our interpretation of history really needs to get detached from our own cultural framework. It's about time different sexualities are being acknowledged! That being said, just because that framework is more progressive, doesn't make it magically the right one to explain all historical events. Maybe people were gay, maybe people were less prude in hanging out with others naked. Maybe people were trans, maybe they had to hide their gender because of time period's gender norms. Everyone loves talking about how gay the Greeks were but don't mention the enormous cultural gap between their execution of homosexuality and ours.
L Johnson 1 year ago
People need to realize, you love who you love. You don't need to "come out" to anyone. I am straight, but I have tons of gay friends. I embrace them in public, I kiss them in public, I love them in public. I know I am straight but I don't need to explain to anyone what I do. That is MY LIFE. Don't assume. And all the Bible thumper, the passage " suffer the children come to me" does not have a sentence behind it saying "except for...". We are the human race, not the gay race, black race, white race...we all need to let people be who they are, love who they want. We all deserve to love and be loved. If I love my cats, is there a question that my love is odd? Be who you are, these rest of the naysayers be damned. That's their problem.
Polina Dimentbarg 3 years ago
Shakespeare sonnet 18. It was written for a guy. It's so painfully obvious a love poem, yet in school they say it was written in a friendly way and nothing more. I wouldn't go comparing my friends' beauty to a summer's day :/
alloutbikes@yahoo.com 2 years ago
Why is it a thing? As a straight 58 yo woman, I have never found the need to walk up to a group of people and state I am heterosexual. Only when approached by a lady wanting to go out with me did I find it necessary. And maybe the opposite when approached by creepy dudes.
Daphne Williams 3 years ago
Nah, it's more that you want the entire world to be white, cis and hetero, so every time a single black, gay or trans person appears on screen you lose your s**t, when in fact, they are merely acknowledging that black, gay and trans people exist in the world. I believe that if you actually tallied up all of the white, hetero, gay, black, or trans characters, there would still be more white hetero cis characters than actually exist in the population at large. You literally just hate the fact that black, gay and trans people even exist.
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Cori 3 years ago
I can't wait for the day when 'coming out' is no longer a thing. When I go car shopping and buy a truck instead of a car, I don't have to 'come out' as a truck owner because it's a super boring non issue. 'Cool. You bought a truck. Wanna go grab some pizza?' People's sexuality should be like that.
Eliška Hůlková 3 years ago
Downvote me as you want, but I've always found the idea of life-long platonic friendship, as seen in some historical periods, very touching. It'd be quite a dissapointment if it turned out that ALL these pairs were gay. Nothing against LGBT people, but why we can't have any non-sexual relationships?
Aliquid A 3 years ago
That's a legit comment. Guys should be able to have a "bromance" without people assuming they are gay, and gay couples should be able to have a romance, without people pretending they are straight.
Load More Replies... • Lemønchu • 3 years ago
In the old English dub of Sailor Moon, there's a lesbian couple. So instead of making them lesbian... THEY MADE THEM COUSINS. THEY MADE A F*****G LESBIAN COUPLE COUSINS. So you have "cousins" flirting and holding hands...
juice 3 years ago
Russia tried to censor Ruby and Sapphire from Steven Universe. they edited a mustache onto Ruby and tried to make her a dude...but Rebecca Sugar got back at them in the best way 05c723be99...1515a5.jpg
Suzy the observer 3 years ago
I cannot wait for the day when we say "couple' instead of "mix-race-trans-lesbian-couple" (just an example). People should have the safe space to just be without the need for explanations or categorizing. The terms "outing" and "coming out" should not even exist. Whatever happens between two consenting adult humans is no one else's business. Let people live peacefully and authentically.
Don't Look 3 years ago
Ah, labeling. The government loves it (because without it they don’t know how to categorize and collect) and therefore all the public workers have to live it. Makes everything rational people want to go with antisocietal.
Load More Replies... Random Anon 3 years ago
I guess people still want to live in denial. Homosexuality is nothing new. It's been around since the dawn of time. It's even prevalent in the animal kingdom so I never understood the sanctimonious decadent human against-natural spiel through out history.
Cian Thomas McHugh 3 years ago
And as well as that, LIVING PAST 30 is against nature.
Load More Replies... Cosmetica Solist 3 years ago
My brothers longtime best friend is gay. They lived together for 5 years and does everything together. In this case it's the opposite: people are always like "sure they're 'just friends'" *wink wink goofy smile. But my my brother is a grown ass man completely secure and comfortable in his gender and sexuality (straight). He comes from a family where our dad has always openly poly-amorous, our sister openly gay, and of course, he has a gay best friend that his entire family adores. If he was gay, bi or anything else, he would just be it. But for some reason some people can't wrap their heads around a healthy, loving, and supportive male friendship. This is also really sad to me.
Dodo 3 years ago
I love the idea of healthy, loving, supportive friendships, whatever your sex/gender. And I hate when people are like 'this person died without ever getting married, they were obviously gay'. Wrt this article though, a lot of them are totally ignoring the obvious.
Load More Replies... Dobby The House Elf 3 years ago
Random person in history: says or does something that clearly shows they are gay/lesbian/trans+ Historians: GeE i WoNdEr WhAt tHaT cOuLD mEaN
Chodz 3 years ago
As a gay man I loathe the term LGBTQI+. Being gay has nothing in common with gender identity politics. LGB and the rest should go separate ways.
Parmeisan 3 years ago
But the two groups have been interconnected from waaay back (if I recall my history correctly, it started as gay men + transgendered activists around the time of Stonewall). It's the same fight (to be legally and socially recognized as equal) - why would you feel the need to separate yourself from the non-gender-conforming folk?
Load More Replies... Jay Weigel 3 years ago
Sometimes you just want to bang someone's head against the nearest wall......
Logic and Reason 3 years ago
I didn’t really see an issue with the ones talking about friendship. When they say ‘oh what great friends you are’, I hope that’s the case. It would be pretty awful if you weren’t friends with your SO.
she/they and probably gay 3 years ago
https://twitter.com/KellyWatsonTX, so i dont have a twitter account but i found her, omg shes so stupid
Maya Kuntz 3 years ago
I see her posts about there being no gay animals and I'm thinking about the gay penguins on here and the story about the first time scientists found octopuses(?) mating in the wild it was two males.
Load More Replies... Stella 3 years ago
Our interpretation of history really needs to get detached from our own cultural framework. It's about time different sexualities are being acknowledged! That being said, just because that framework is more progressive, doesn't make it magically the right one to explain all historical events. Maybe people were gay, maybe people were less prude in hanging out with others naked. Maybe people were trans, maybe they had to hide their gender because of time period's gender norms. Everyone loves talking about how gay the Greeks were but don't mention the enormous cultural gap between their execution of homosexuality and ours.
L Johnson 1 year ago
People need to realize, you love who you love. You don't need to "come out" to anyone. I am straight, but I have tons of gay friends. I embrace them in public, I kiss them in public, I love them in public. I know I am straight but I don't need to explain to anyone what I do. That is MY LIFE. Don't assume. And all the Bible thumper, the passage " suffer the children come to me" does not have a sentence behind it saying "except for...". We are the human race, not the gay race, black race, white race...we all need to let people be who they are, love who they want. We all deserve to love and be loved. If I love my cats, is there a question that my love is odd? Be who you are, these rest of the naysayers be damned. That's their problem.
Polina Dimentbarg 3 years ago
Shakespeare sonnet 18. It was written for a guy. It's so painfully obvious a love poem, yet in school they say it was written in a friendly way and nothing more. I wouldn't go comparing my friends' beauty to a summer's day :/
alloutbikes@yahoo.com 2 years ago
Why is it a thing? As a straight 58 yo woman, I have never found the need to walk up to a group of people and state I am heterosexual. Only when approached by a lady wanting to go out with me did I find it necessary. And maybe the opposite when approached by creepy dudes.
Daphne Williams 3 years ago
Nah, it's more that you want the entire world to be white, cis and hetero, so every time a single black, gay or trans person appears on screen you lose your s**t, when in fact, they are merely acknowledging that black, gay and trans people exist in the world. I believe that if you actually tallied up all of the white, hetero, gay, black, or trans characters, there would still be more white hetero cis characters than actually exist in the population at large. You literally just hate the fact that black, gay and trans people even exist.
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