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“It Was Really Embarrassing”: Person Refuses To Accommodate Overweight Plane Passenger
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“It Was Really Embarrassing”: Person Refuses To Accommodate Overweight Plane Passenger

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In a world where billions of people travel by plane every year, there’s bound to be some drama in the skies. Sometimes it’s mild and other times things really blow up. The least one can hope for when boarding is to have a safe and comfortable flight, and that the aircraft is filled with nice people.

One woman shared how she’s feeling a bit bad about an incident that happened recently. She’d booked and paid for an aisle seat but was asked to swap, by a man she describes as “very, very overweight.” He had been allocated a window seat, which was a struggle for him to squeeze through to. The woman says she politely declined to move, even when an air hostess requested that she do so. After the embarrassment that followed, she’s now wondering if she was being unreasonable and has turned to the internet for advice. Bored Panda had a great chat with etiquette expert and trainer Rosalinda Randall, who shared her views and advice on seat swaps. 

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    “No one has the obligation to switch their seat, nor explain why”: an expert explains

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    “In the scenario of the ample passenger requesting the aisle seat, it was his prerogative and physical comfort that prompted the request; this is understandable. Especially due to the last-minute ticket purchase where he had fewer options in seat selection,” says renowned etiquette expert and author Rosalinda Randall when we asked for her opinion on the matter.

    Randall has authored two books and has made a name for herself as a leader in her field. The expert believes the passengers involved interacted calmly and with civility. “The pair traveling together handled it justly and graciously,” she told Bored Panda. “The gentleman accepted the pair’s decision. That is how it should be.”

    However, Randall believes the flight attendant could have taken a different approach. “The flight attendant, who apparently thought she was doing her job, embarrassed the passengers by requesting they move to accommodate the heavy-set passenger,” she explained. “In reality, she highlighted the situation that had already been resolved.”

    Randall adds that the flight attendant disregarded the passenger’s personal reasons for keeping their seat, and overlooked the fact that they paid for those seats. 

    “No one has the obligation to switch their seat, nor explain why they won’t switch,” says the expert. “And the person making the request has no right to expect, or get angry, when they don’t get their way.”

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    The etiquette expert tells Bored Panda that there are a few cases it’s okay to ask for a seat swap. “Asking someone to swap seats is permissible. However, some may say only after you’ve attempted to switch or purchase your preferred seat prior to boarding.”

    She says that asking someone to swap seats may be better received if the seat your swapping is of equal value or better position. “It is okay to ask someone to swap seats if you are seated next to a support animal and have allergies. Or, your purchase was made on an emergency last-minute basis and need to be seated with your grieving partner or child,” Randall told us.

    Randall suggests that if someone wants to increase their chances of another passenger complying with their request to switch seats, they begin by asking a flight attendant to make the announcement. “Calmly approach the passenger in the desired seat; politely state your case,” she adds. “Offer to buy them a beverage, or two, pay for airline extras, pay them cash or transfer funds.”

    If you’re the one being asked, and you don’t want to budge, Randall says it’s best to respond in a professional matter-of-fact tone. “Like a coworker asking if you’d like to split a sandwich; you kindly reply, ‘no thanks’,” she suggested.

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    What if they request a reason? “If you feel compelled to provide one, you may say something like, ‘I prefer to stay where I am.’ However, you are not obligated to explain,” the expert reiterated, adding that there are an array of reasons someone might not want to swap seats.

    “Maybe you paid extra for the seat, or you often get nauseated, requiring the window seat, or you need the aisle seat due to an active bladder. All reasons that may be too personal to share,” explains Randall. 

    On a parting note, Randall told Bored Panda that, “Asking someone to swap seats for lesser seat position is gutsy. Making a scene or making rude remarks when you don’t get your way is immature. If you are dissatisfied with your seat assignment, pay for an upgrade prior to boarding. Expecting a preferred seat assignment without paying for it, expect an eye roll.”

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    Is it okay to ask for a seat swap? According to one survey, people are sharply divided

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    Passengers are sharply divided when it comes to whether you should switch seats with a fellow flyer. One survey found that 54% approved of switching seats, but only if you “ask politely.” But 64% of those polled said they wouldn’t allow it if the person asking said they’re a nervous flyer, while 77% would nope out if their fellow passenger wanted to swap purely because they didn’t like their assigned seat.

    Experts say no one is obligated to switch seats with someone else on the plane, especially if they’ve paid extra for their aisle or window seat. But there are valid reasons a person might ask for a seat swap, and one might want to consider saying ‘yes’.

    Travel influencer and founder of Love and London, Jessica Dante, told Business Insider that these reasons could include helping someone who is traveling with young kids, someone with a fear of flying, or someone with a disability.

    Dante says you shouldn’t ask someone to do a swap for a “lesser” seat. “The passenger being asked should assess the situation, ask what the reason for the request is, and have a look at the swapped seat,” Dante said. “If the swap means a less comfortable seat for you, it’s perfectly OK to say no.”

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    Travel blogger Ally Gibson agrees. She says her reply to a seat swap request would depend on whether the person asked nicely and whether they’d be offering a better seat. “If the answer to either of these is no, then I don’t switch,” she told the publication.

    Airline reporter Taylor Rains says the only time they’d agree to a seat swap is if they get an aisle seat. “I paid for my aisle seat for a reason, so I’m within my right to say no,” writes Rains. “However, I will consider switching if I’m offered another aisle or if it’s an exit row seat where I can get up without disrupting anyone.”

    Rains adds that “if you didn’t plan ahead and got assigned separate seats and then need the one I paid for, then that isn’t my problem.”

    The frequent flyer says she has made exceptions in the past and would consider moving for a medical emergency, or a little kid who is too scared to be separated from their parents.

    The Seattle Times warns that swapping seats on a plane can sometimes result in danger. “Every flight has a manifest with information about each passenger. That can include allergies, special meals or connecting flights,” explains the site. “At best, you may end up with someone else’s in-flight meal; at worst, you could end up using your EpiPen or even forcing an emergency landing because you’re having an allergic reaction to a meal or a nearby pet.”

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    And when it comes to small planes, seat switching can affect the safety of the entire aircraft. “Before each flight, the crew checks to ensure the aircraft is properly balanced,” reports the Seattle Times. “If you move, you could shift the plane’s balance in the wrong direction, making it harder to fly the plane.”

    “It is ok to refuse”: netizens assured the traveler that there’s no reason to feel guilty

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    “There are far more important matters”: Not everyone took the woman’s side

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    Lauren Wilder
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thankfully, I've never paid for a seat as I just accept whatever is randomly assigned. But, if I had an issue where a portion of my body extended beyond my seat and encroached upon the person next to me. I would purchase a seat and the one next to me. I wouldn't want somone so close to me.

    Petra Peitsch
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get it. Okay, I'm flying mostly inside Europe, but with 99% of the flight companies over here is so: You are booking your ticket from X to Y. Than you are directed to choose your seat. You have 2 options: pay for for more legroom seats, or book a standard seat, without extra paying. The sooner you book your flight, the more options you have to choose a seat, what you like, without any plus paying (if you don't wanna pay extra for more legroom). Contrary to USA stories, when paople claim they paid extra for their normal aisle or window seat, we here don't. The trick is to book in time. If you didn't, you have no base to claim anything. And everybody knows this. I'm always booking window-seat. sometimres 5-6 months before my flight.

    Noltha
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More and more regular (not cheap) airlines in Europe want you to pay for preselection of any seat if you buy the ticket in "light" tariff.

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    XenoMurph
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, so making passengers argue with each other because of their ordinary, common requirements is part of their plan. We should be arguing with the airlines for not letting us choose.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But then you can usually do online check in and then pick a seat

    BeesEelsAndPups
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I fly mostly internationally. This all really depends on the airline. In some airlines you pay more for aisle seats in the economy section. Also many airlines require that overweight passengers pay for two seats for this reason specifically.

    Petra Peitsch
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Khm, flying inside Europe is also international .... just saying. But I get, you are speaking about CONTINENTAL flights. So, than for you to know, european ones mostly act as I described. If it happens to book a Lufthansa, Air France and so on ...

    Ruth Watry
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the US, you pay for them. When you make your reservation, you have the option to reserve your seat. Most middle seats have no cost, but you might have to pay $20-$40 for an aisle or window (price goes down as you get further back in the plane - so do not have to pay for all aisle or window). You will pay more for an exit row or a bulkhead because they have more legroom. Because I need the legroom, depending on the flight, I might have to pay $60-$80 on each flight (so if it takes me 3 flights to get to where I am going - I am paying extra on each flight).

    Ivona
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pay for seat assignment every time I fly, both inside the U.S. and to Europe.

    Amy S
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've flown between the UK to Spain and France a few times and had to pay extra to select my seat everytime (in the last 10 years or so, not so much before then).

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if your flight is cancelled or significantly delayed, you get rebooked without choice of seat.

    E Menendez
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I fly mainly in the US. It depends on the airline if they charge more for aisle. I haven't had that experience, but the airlines I fly don't do that. My experience is the same as you.

    Poppy
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm very overweight, I've flown from the UK to Greece and to Australia. Each time I fly I pre book which seat I get so that I know I don't have to bother other people. I also apologise to whoever is sat next to me saying I'll do my best to keep to my seat area and if they're uncomfortable to let me know and I'll do my best to accommodate them.

    Mike F
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I developed frequent urination issues when I went on BP meds. FWIW, I feel for the OP because as heartless as the interaction appeared, she genuinely needed to get to the restroom in a hurry when the need arose and not have to negotiate with the guy in order to get out of the row. The person who said "no biggie having to change seats..." has obviously never been in the situation.

    ElfVibratorGlitter
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I also prefer the aisle. That's why I make sure to book it. If you want me to move ... okay, put me on another aisle near the back. Can't? Not moving.

    Denise Aitchison
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Airlines are now charging for seats, so it's ballsy to ask customers to move. I would feel free to say no.

    Apatheist Account2
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think airlines have always charged for seats. I've never seen a standing option...

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    Janelle Collard
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think Denise meant charging for selecting a *specific* seat.

    Ana Gomez
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The greedy airlines are making seat sizes for people who are under a size 6 in terms of clothes. They want to maximize profit as they probably know, companies making planes today are making planes that don't last as long or have issues causing higher maintenance costs and at times crashes. We all know what U.S. Based airline manufacturer I'm talking about. Both types of company are greedy. With that said, as a fat person myself, to ensure both I'm comfortable and the person next to me isn't uncomfortable, I book an extra seat OR I fly first class where the seats are larger and more comfortable. We don't know if this gentleman booked at the last minute or whatever, but the fact remains, he had the right to ask, and she had the right to say no. She had no need to disclose her medical condition which is what caused her to intentionally book an aisle seat. I think they all handled it well. No Karen's or male-Karen's in this post.

    Gwyn
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know... It's terrible to be on the window if you're overweight not if you need to get out more often for the bathroom it's also terrible to be trapped in an inner seat. Why can't airlines have a couple larger seats that don't get booked until boarding time so they can move people around?

    roddy
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand why they didn't ask another person with an aisle seat if they'd like to switch to a window. They always zero in on a particular person when the plane is full of alternate seats.

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, you can’t prebook a seat and end up a completely different seat if your flight gets cancelled or delayed and you end up on a different seat. The person I feel bad for is the one in the middle seat. If this person is so obese, then they must have been crowding the middle seat person. If I pay for a seat, I expect to get the whole seat, not two thirds or half of it.

    Margaret Shannon
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t understand. She was fully willing to moved when he needed to use the necessary. Most people are, when asked politely. Why wasn’t she willing to ask politely if she were near the window? FWIW, I'm pretty fat, too. I choose a seat I fit in advance and pay the extra fee. And I'm dieting and exercising and have lost 25-30 pounds so far.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have to pay extra to book your seats. I usually only pick and pay for a window seat on longer flights. If I paid for it, I am sitting in it.

    Chris the Bobcat
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trick situation. The airlines don't make seats large enough for regular sized people either. I'm a small guy at 5'5"/165cm and I don't fit well into the seats. I'm convinced the airlines only give us seats now because the FAA requires certain safety standards. Otherwise, they'd just herd people in, standing room only, until they were packed so that no one could actually fall over.

    Earonn -
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No hard feelings, all good, just let me put this to the whole world on the internet.

    Jeanette Means
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Praying4peace did you not read the part where the OP stated that she had bladder issues and specifically paid for an aisle seat to address that problem? You might want to pay more attention!

    Pixie T
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My uncle is very overweight (health related) and his wife is is also on the larger side. Not only do they always prebook their seats but they also buy 1extra so essentially book the whole row for themselves. That leaves the middle technically spare but my uncle spills out over it so it would not be comfortable for anyone to sit in anyway.

    M G----no
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    there are many airlines nowadays that require overweight people to pay for 2 seats. if the person does not fit well in one seat, and the airline didn't make him buy 2, then it's the airline's fault. But also, think about it, airlines are constantly shrinking their seats. I've seen perfectly normal people have trouble fitting in them. It's ridiculous.

    Janelle Collard
    Community Member
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I've paid *more* for a specific seat, I'm not moving. There's a reason I *chose* this particular seat + the reason hasn't changed.

    Joanne Earle
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always booked the aisle seat too for easy access to the bathroom. There was one time we were taxiing for take off and I couldn't hold my bladder a second longer and had to dash to the bathroom. There was no way I would've made it till the seatbelt sign went off! Fortunately my husband and I have zero desire to fly ever again. Road tripping is the best way to see stuff anyway.

    DogMomInVT
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look, I'm a big girl. I know I'm a big girl. I also know I won't fit in a coach/economy seat. I am aware that no one wants me squishing into a seat next to them anymore than I want to see the, "oh god, no" looks on their faces as I board the plane. I'm not rich, I don't have expensive tastes. I'm a realist. If I can't afford to purchase a 1st class ticket (or business class on the train), I don't go. Period. We have to face reality that travel is not designed for anyone over 200 pounds. Although the media loves to report on how the 'waist bands of the population' are expanding and how more and more people are overweight, travel has not accomodated, nor do I suspect they ever will. Smaller seats equal more passengers per flight.

    Nimitz
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dealt with this once. I was on a bus on the back seat (a three person bench instead of a pair of two person reclining chairs). I was sitting next to my buddy, a 20 y/o tiny blond girl and her younger sister. There was a guy well over 500 lbs who was sat towards the front, 20 minutes into the trip he told me I needed to switch with him because he was uncomfortable. I said no, and that made me the a*****e. Sorry buddy, but the girls didn't wanna sit next to your literally sweaty a*s, and didn't want that either.

    Verena
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember 40 years ago, when flying was something special, tickets were more expensive than now but everything was included in the price (choosing seats at bagage drop/check-in with a person, meals, luggage)

    Smeghead Tribble Down Under
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've never been on a plane, but I'm one of those horrible, terrible, worthless, useless, lazy, disgusting fatsos the world loves to hate. I'd want an aisle seat so I could go to the loo whenever I wanted without the drama of climbing over people, but I suppose as a fat person that'd be wrong too?

    Dragons Exist
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wanting an isle seat isn't the problem, regardless of any personal things, the problem is expecting others to give you the isle seat

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    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is your tone so hostile? Absolutely no one is attacking overweight people or calling them horrible, terrible, worthless, useless, lazy, or disgusting, nor is anyone using slurs/insults (it's worth noting that you're the only person who has used a slur for overweight people so far). You sound like you WANT to be attacked for being overweight so that you can launch yourself into a self-righteous tirade and feel justified in your views that "everyone hates overweight people" (spoiler: they don't.) You don't actually want an answer to your hypothetical question (because you're not actually asking a question) but I'll give you an answer anyway: book an aisle seat. Choose to pay more for one if you have to. That way, you won't be "climbing" over anyone.

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The issue is people wanting to be accommodated without wanting to pay for that accommodation. If you have special needs, things need to be done in advance; I don't care what seat I sit in, but if I book a particular seat in a plane or train, that's the seat I should have, and I shouldn't need to move to accommodate someone who hasn't had the forethought to book what they require.

    XenoMurph
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My issue is that we are arguing amongst ourselves about preassigned seats on planes, but even vue cinema allows me to choose my seat for free. It's the airlines, not the passengers with varied and often complex needs, who are to blame!!

    Lauren Wilder
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thankfully, I've never paid for a seat as I just accept whatever is randomly assigned. But, if I had an issue where a portion of my body extended beyond my seat and encroached upon the person next to me. I would purchase a seat and the one next to me. I wouldn't want somone so close to me.

    Petra Peitsch
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get it. Okay, I'm flying mostly inside Europe, but with 99% of the flight companies over here is so: You are booking your ticket from X to Y. Than you are directed to choose your seat. You have 2 options: pay for for more legroom seats, or book a standard seat, without extra paying. The sooner you book your flight, the more options you have to choose a seat, what you like, without any plus paying (if you don't wanna pay extra for more legroom). Contrary to USA stories, when paople claim they paid extra for their normal aisle or window seat, we here don't. The trick is to book in time. If you didn't, you have no base to claim anything. And everybody knows this. I'm always booking window-seat. sometimres 5-6 months before my flight.

    Noltha
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More and more regular (not cheap) airlines in Europe want you to pay for preselection of any seat if you buy the ticket in "light" tariff.

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    XenoMurph
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, so making passengers argue with each other because of their ordinary, common requirements is part of their plan. We should be arguing with the airlines for not letting us choose.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But then you can usually do online check in and then pick a seat

    BeesEelsAndPups
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I fly mostly internationally. This all really depends on the airline. In some airlines you pay more for aisle seats in the economy section. Also many airlines require that overweight passengers pay for two seats for this reason specifically.

    Petra Peitsch
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Khm, flying inside Europe is also international .... just saying. But I get, you are speaking about CONTINENTAL flights. So, than for you to know, european ones mostly act as I described. If it happens to book a Lufthansa, Air France and so on ...

    Ruth Watry
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the US, you pay for them. When you make your reservation, you have the option to reserve your seat. Most middle seats have no cost, but you might have to pay $20-$40 for an aisle or window (price goes down as you get further back in the plane - so do not have to pay for all aisle or window). You will pay more for an exit row or a bulkhead because they have more legroom. Because I need the legroom, depending on the flight, I might have to pay $60-$80 on each flight (so if it takes me 3 flights to get to where I am going - I am paying extra on each flight).

    Ivona
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pay for seat assignment every time I fly, both inside the U.S. and to Europe.

    Amy S
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've flown between the UK to Spain and France a few times and had to pay extra to select my seat everytime (in the last 10 years or so, not so much before then).

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if your flight is cancelled or significantly delayed, you get rebooked without choice of seat.

    E Menendez
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I fly mainly in the US. It depends on the airline if they charge more for aisle. I haven't had that experience, but the airlines I fly don't do that. My experience is the same as you.

    Poppy
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm very overweight, I've flown from the UK to Greece and to Australia. Each time I fly I pre book which seat I get so that I know I don't have to bother other people. I also apologise to whoever is sat next to me saying I'll do my best to keep to my seat area and if they're uncomfortable to let me know and I'll do my best to accommodate them.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I developed frequent urination issues when I went on BP meds. FWIW, I feel for the OP because as heartless as the interaction appeared, she genuinely needed to get to the restroom in a hurry when the need arose and not have to negotiate with the guy in order to get out of the row. The person who said "no biggie having to change seats..." has obviously never been in the situation.

    ElfVibratorGlitter
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I also prefer the aisle. That's why I make sure to book it. If you want me to move ... okay, put me on another aisle near the back. Can't? Not moving.

    Denise Aitchison
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Airlines are now charging for seats, so it's ballsy to ask customers to move. I would feel free to say no.

    Apatheist Account2
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think airlines have always charged for seats. I've never seen a standing option...

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    Janelle Collard
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think Denise meant charging for selecting a *specific* seat.

    Ana Gomez
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The greedy airlines are making seat sizes for people who are under a size 6 in terms of clothes. They want to maximize profit as they probably know, companies making planes today are making planes that don't last as long or have issues causing higher maintenance costs and at times crashes. We all know what U.S. Based airline manufacturer I'm talking about. Both types of company are greedy. With that said, as a fat person myself, to ensure both I'm comfortable and the person next to me isn't uncomfortable, I book an extra seat OR I fly first class where the seats are larger and more comfortable. We don't know if this gentleman booked at the last minute or whatever, but the fact remains, he had the right to ask, and she had the right to say no. She had no need to disclose her medical condition which is what caused her to intentionally book an aisle seat. I think they all handled it well. No Karen's or male-Karen's in this post.

    Gwyn
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know... It's terrible to be on the window if you're overweight not if you need to get out more often for the bathroom it's also terrible to be trapped in an inner seat. Why can't airlines have a couple larger seats that don't get booked until boarding time so they can move people around?

    roddy
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand why they didn't ask another person with an aisle seat if they'd like to switch to a window. They always zero in on a particular person when the plane is full of alternate seats.

    The Starsong Princess
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, you can’t prebook a seat and end up a completely different seat if your flight gets cancelled or delayed and you end up on a different seat. The person I feel bad for is the one in the middle seat. If this person is so obese, then they must have been crowding the middle seat person. If I pay for a seat, I expect to get the whole seat, not two thirds or half of it.

    Margaret Shannon
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t understand. She was fully willing to moved when he needed to use the necessary. Most people are, when asked politely. Why wasn’t she willing to ask politely if she were near the window? FWIW, I'm pretty fat, too. I choose a seat I fit in advance and pay the extra fee. And I'm dieting and exercising and have lost 25-30 pounds so far.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have to pay extra to book your seats. I usually only pick and pay for a window seat on longer flights. If I paid for it, I am sitting in it.

    Chris the Bobcat
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trick situation. The airlines don't make seats large enough for regular sized people either. I'm a small guy at 5'5"/165cm and I don't fit well into the seats. I'm convinced the airlines only give us seats now because the FAA requires certain safety standards. Otherwise, they'd just herd people in, standing room only, until they were packed so that no one could actually fall over.

    Earonn -
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No hard feelings, all good, just let me put this to the whole world on the internet.

    Jeanette Means
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Praying4peace did you not read the part where the OP stated that she had bladder issues and specifically paid for an aisle seat to address that problem? You might want to pay more attention!

    Pixie T
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My uncle is very overweight (health related) and his wife is is also on the larger side. Not only do they always prebook their seats but they also buy 1extra so essentially book the whole row for themselves. That leaves the middle technically spare but my uncle spills out over it so it would not be comfortable for anyone to sit in anyway.

    M G----no
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    there are many airlines nowadays that require overweight people to pay for 2 seats. if the person does not fit well in one seat, and the airline didn't make him buy 2, then it's the airline's fault. But also, think about it, airlines are constantly shrinking their seats. I've seen perfectly normal people have trouble fitting in them. It's ridiculous.

    Janelle Collard
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I've paid *more* for a specific seat, I'm not moving. There's a reason I *chose* this particular seat + the reason hasn't changed.

    Joanne Earle
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always booked the aisle seat too for easy access to the bathroom. There was one time we were taxiing for take off and I couldn't hold my bladder a second longer and had to dash to the bathroom. There was no way I would've made it till the seatbelt sign went off! Fortunately my husband and I have zero desire to fly ever again. Road tripping is the best way to see stuff anyway.

    DogMomInVT
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look, I'm a big girl. I know I'm a big girl. I also know I won't fit in a coach/economy seat. I am aware that no one wants me squishing into a seat next to them anymore than I want to see the, "oh god, no" looks on their faces as I board the plane. I'm not rich, I don't have expensive tastes. I'm a realist. If I can't afford to purchase a 1st class ticket (or business class on the train), I don't go. Period. We have to face reality that travel is not designed for anyone over 200 pounds. Although the media loves to report on how the 'waist bands of the population' are expanding and how more and more people are overweight, travel has not accomodated, nor do I suspect they ever will. Smaller seats equal more passengers per flight.

    Nimitz
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dealt with this once. I was on a bus on the back seat (a three person bench instead of a pair of two person reclining chairs). I was sitting next to my buddy, a 20 y/o tiny blond girl and her younger sister. There was a guy well over 500 lbs who was sat towards the front, 20 minutes into the trip he told me I needed to switch with him because he was uncomfortable. I said no, and that made me the a*****e. Sorry buddy, but the girls didn't wanna sit next to your literally sweaty a*s, and didn't want that either.

    Verena
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember 40 years ago, when flying was something special, tickets were more expensive than now but everything was included in the price (choosing seats at bagage drop/check-in with a person, meals, luggage)

    Smeghead Tribble Down Under
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've never been on a plane, but I'm one of those horrible, terrible, worthless, useless, lazy, disgusting fatsos the world loves to hate. I'd want an aisle seat so I could go to the loo whenever I wanted without the drama of climbing over people, but I suppose as a fat person that'd be wrong too?

    Dragons Exist
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wanting an isle seat isn't the problem, regardless of any personal things, the problem is expecting others to give you the isle seat

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    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is your tone so hostile? Absolutely no one is attacking overweight people or calling them horrible, terrible, worthless, useless, lazy, or disgusting, nor is anyone using slurs/insults (it's worth noting that you're the only person who has used a slur for overweight people so far). You sound like you WANT to be attacked for being overweight so that you can launch yourself into a self-righteous tirade and feel justified in your views that "everyone hates overweight people" (spoiler: they don't.) You don't actually want an answer to your hypothetical question (because you're not actually asking a question) but I'll give you an answer anyway: book an aisle seat. Choose to pay more for one if you have to. That way, you won't be "climbing" over anyone.

    Apatheist Account2
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The issue is people wanting to be accommodated without wanting to pay for that accommodation. If you have special needs, things need to be done in advance; I don't care what seat I sit in, but if I book a particular seat in a plane or train, that's the seat I should have, and I shouldn't need to move to accommodate someone who hasn't had the forethought to book what they require.

    XenoMurph
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My issue is that we are arguing amongst ourselves about preassigned seats on planes, but even vue cinema allows me to choose my seat for free. It's the airlines, not the passengers with varied and often complex needs, who are to blame!!

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