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Parents ‘Make’ Aunt Babysit Even Though She Warned Them She Was Unavailable, Family Drama Ensues When She Then Leaves The Baby With A ‘Stranger’
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Parents ‘Make’ Aunt Babysit Even Though She Warned Them She Was Unavailable, Family Drama Ensues When She Then Leaves The Baby With A ‘Stranger’

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Recently, a story from a 24-year-old woman went viral on the AITA community, leaving people with split opinions. The author who goes by the handle Still-not-sure introduced herself as an aunt to her 1-year-old niece Ava, a child who found herself at the center of a family conflict.

“My sister and BIL live close to me so I babysit for them sometimes. They don’t pay me but I’m happy to do it anyway,” the author wrote. On one such Friday, Still-not-sure “provisionally agreed” to babysit Ava as her parents were having an anniversary.

Suddenly, the author’s plans changed when her old college friends told her they were stopping by her town on the same day. “I gave my sister 5 days notice that I could no longer babysit on Friday,” the author said and added that “she didn’t respond to the text, but she read it, so I assumed it was OK.”

Now the Friday arrived and the author’s plans went awry with Ava left on her doorstep. All confused and in a hurry, the author made a decision that felt reasonable in the given situation. Now, however, she wonders if she didn’t mess it up big time.

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Gabby Ghoul
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I might say ESH but the phrase "step up to [her] responsibility as an aunt" grates on me. You had a child so now I have more responsibilities? I think not.

Karla Dolman
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2 years ago

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Uh, do you think having children is a lifestyle luxury choice and not in fact vital for the future stability of society, especially with a currently aging population and falling birth rate? Do you not think family members have basic responsibility towards each other as requirement of being a part of a family, things like not agreeing to help and then cancelling for selfish reasons? I think I'd expect better from my siblings than that.

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Kayla J
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the OP did as best as she could in this situation and I don't think dropping off Ava at Jade's was that big of a deal. If Jade is a babysitter and a close friend, she will have OP's number in case Ava doesn't respond well to her and can call OP to have her cut her night short. My only suggestion to OP is to learn next time if its an important message to don't just accept it as being "read" with no communication after. Pick up the phone and call, confirm they understand even if it is family esp ones that take advantage of your free services.

BenMaharaj
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Beat me to it. Absolutely call and make sure they acknowledge and understand you are not available.

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Gavin Johnson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a daughter, 12, I also have a brother, he has two children,13 & 15,, we both have times when we use each other to look after each other’s children, they all get along very well. MY daughter is not his responsibility, HIS children are not my responsibility. With 5 days notice of changes to a plan for my daughter then it is on ME to be organised and work out a plan if that’s not possible then it’s on ME, she is my child and the number one priority is her so I have to rearrange my plans. That’s called being a parent, yes we use grandparents who love spending time with their grandchildren, yes we try to help each other out but there’s zero pressure to be ‘a good uncle’ or be inconvenienced by someone else’s lack of planning. FFS take ownership of your family and your commitments. You don’t come first, that ended when you decided to become a parent, yes your time is important but when it is your child that may suffer then it’s on YOU to take the hit. Tough.

Marcia Mongelluzzo
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you leave your child with someone, even a family member, you DON'T turn your phone off.

John Dough
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless of course you know what you did and want to avoid dealing with the consequences

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fu yu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh please. Just tell them not to bother asking you for babysitting ever again until they apologize and see how quickly they fold.

Jiminy
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It must be really hard to just CALL someone to clarify plans instead of "uh, it's on read, she didn't answer but probably agreed". Just TALK to each other, people...

bob van wijk
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think she did that, so the sister wouldn't try to force her. She doesn't sound like a normal person who takes no for an answer.

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Tams21
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If op had cancelled at the last minute, mom would have the right to feel let down. To have that much notice and then to ignore it, turn up at ops door and then even be condescending about it is so out of line. The only people with who should have a expectation to look after a child put on them are the childs parents. Mom failed.

Michael Largey
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, you should have left the kid with another party. Child Protective Services. This is the proper course, and it features two bonuses. (1) Your sister will never do this to you again, and (2) Your sister will never speak to you again.

Nizumi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was all set with YTA, and then read the whole thing. Definitely NTA. It wasn't known that college friends would show up for one night only - of course you'd want to get together! 5 days' notice is plenty. It's the responsibility of the mother of the child to make other arrangements or at least communicate to her sister and let her now she hasn't found an alternative, could maybe OP know of someone who could help? Then the whole Jade thing wouldn't have been an issue.

Amused panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It seems odd that OP didn't confirm her sister had made other arrangements given she was no longer available, since is easy for anyone to flake on a task or text, but there are a few things which together decided NTA for me: the statement from her sister that she needs to step up, the fact they'd only provisionally made arrangements & were going to confirm closer to the time, and the fact her sister effectively dumped baby, fled & made herself unavailable to the point she didn't respond for 2 hours. As for who OP arranged to babysit, whilst she was a stranger to baby & momma, Jade was known to OP, trusted, and experienced. I wonder if the family are on the sister's side because they think Jade was complete stranger (to all) and think OP flaked with zero notice.

Mary Lou
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand the ESH on this one: leaving the child with OH while she is not consenting to it and then switching off the phone is downright bullying (and reckless as: what if there was an emergency or so?). By not even giving oh the chance to discuss her babysitting arrangement, she clearly lost her right to complain afterwards!

Anouk T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s about the kid , she was left with a stranger that’s very unsafe and unfair for the child. Of course sister is a jerk but the kid became a victim of this whole situation which is wrong and justifies ESH to me

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Debbie
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Next time, when you can't babysit just say: Hey, I told you I'd confirm if I could babysit, but unfortunately, I can't babysit this Friday. [end] Don't say why you can't babysit, that's none of her business and gives fuel to arguments. You can't. Don't explain. If your sister asks why, you say: something else came up. If your sister keeps asking what it is you say: Something I prioritize over babysitting. And then she could have also offered the contact details of friend Jade, who might be able to babysit for fair pay. (do add that last part!)

Susan Bell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am wondering if your family has always shown a reference for your sister, and that is why you feel sad and helpless. This preference in the face of obviously poor behavior by your sister is troubling.

Diphylleia Grayi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Last time, I thought parents are the only ones 100% responsible for their children. Any additional and/or not paid help, are that, HELP, voluntary, discussed nor a must as for parents. Responsible parenting they call it...

Gabriela Cink
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is so much wrong. Never assume, always confirm that other person understands. Aunt assumed her sister understood that she has personal life. Her sister assumed that auntie would sucriface time for her sweet baby niece. And if her sister doesn't trust her judgement (choosing Jade and friends in general), then she shouldn't trust her with babysitting. But yeah, she just did it out of spit... She should be prepared that babysitters are usually strangers.

RJS
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The big difference being that ultimately it’s the parent’s responsibility

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Lulu Lemons
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It would be ESH if Jade wasn't already a babysitter but as she has experience NTA

Stephanie S
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. In fact, I'd say your sister and BIL are. You were doing them a favor. They can do what most other parents do who can't find a sitter... stay home with their baby and celebrate their anniversary out another night. Pretty selfish on their part.

Cory Tollman
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was wondering about that as well. I know there are some people who are obsessive about celebrating anniversaries/holidays/birthdays etc... on THE DAY or it's just not right. Those people annoy the c**p out of me since my family has almost always had to work around people's schedules to get together. It's possible that OP's sister had a special reservation or had paid some non-refundable deposit for this anniversary thing but with 5 days warning she should have been able to find someone else to babysit. Plus, this was the 3rd anniversary. Big whoop. It came across more that the sister and BIL just wanted to ditch the kid for a night out.

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Misty Moon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA! Being on the receiving end of being totally ignored while watching someone's kids for what was supposed to be 3-4 hrs but ended up being over 8hrs-not f.ing cool! OP's sister is not entitled to free babysitting-from anyone. And I totally agree with the responses saying she should have called police. I wish I had done that instead of just telling the person I babysat for that it was my next step. Fortunately for her, I was able to get ahold of her mother and she was the one who finally got a response from her daughter and told her to go pick up her children. Smh. Sorry for the rant but this really struck a nerve. Using people is wrong! Abandoning your kids is wrong! 😠

AngelWingsYT
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA: you warned her days in advance. She READ the message but ignored it thinking youd just drop plans if she showed up. Which she did dashed n shut her phone off so you couldnt contact HER in emergency. You made the mature call to inlist a close friend n ACTUAL babysitter to help and told your sis contact info. As for the family explain what happened how she disrespected your wishes n blew off your desires

Cynthia Plath
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Friendly reminder that the downvote option is not a dislike button! People can be muted and even banned for having an opinion that differs from the majority; unless someone's being an overtly obnoxious assh*le, then please respectfully disagree and refrain from downvoting.

Scott Rackley
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Not even close. Next time don't answer the door. If somehow you're in the same situation, call the cops and give them the sister's number.

ricardo saria
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

...NTA...your sister and bil, however, are abusive, manipulative, shining examples of irresponsible parents(sometimes referred to as a**holes)...you were much more reasonable and adult then the others...hopefully Ava can avoid growing up to be like her mother and father?...

Lynda Wilson
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I haven't seen (may have missed) anyone commenting on the fact that after finding out she left her niece with a "stranger", and her sister being so upset, the sister didn't rush from her dinner to pick her child up. If she was truly worried about her daughter being "endangered" she would have immediately left the dinner and picked her child up. Instead, she picked her up "later that night". Sister needs to suck it up and get over it. I took my babies with me to my anniversary dinners because I didn't have options for sitters. Worked out fine.

Natalie Westby
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely not the a*****e! My cousin pulled Something like That on me. She just showed up at 7am one morning and handed me her baby and said that her baby daddy was coming to pick her up in about an hour. 5 HOURS later! Baby daddy showes up. That was the last time i let anyone take advantage of me,

AustrianGirl
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A little bit off topic, but I wouldn't even watch my nephew without my sister or my BIL beeing in screaming distance. He was born at 32 weeks and still needs some medical devices monitoring him at 10 weeks old. They showed me how everything works and I'm totally fine if they go sleeping or do whatever, I'll even take a walk with him - but I would never go further than a couple 100 meters. It will probably take a couple of months until any of us are willing to watch him without his parents nearby.

Cat Schell
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least your willing to be a parents helper and watch him while the do something else or sleep. Personally with a baby that fragile I'd be terrified to sleep without having another family member or friend watching over him. You're doing a good thing. Enjoy this precious chance to get to know your nephew.

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SuePrew
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I assume mom turned off her phone so sister couldn't call her and ruin her evening. Well, what if something happened and Ava had to go to the emergency room or something? VERY irresponsible, if you ask me.

Pat Ferryman
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She did let them know 5 days ahead not her problem anymore. Sister takes advantage didn’t try to find other baby sitter.

Marian Moore
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always have made sure that I don't baby-sit, period. I never asked anyone to baby-sit my kids. I didn't ask my parents either. If mom wanted to spend time with them, I made sure they got the grandparent time. They raised 4 kids, and I was not going to ever dump my kids on them. If my hubby and I wanted to go out, we had a baby-sitter next door that was paid.

Diane Knight
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A couple of things that don't sit right with me. A) she sent a text, saw it was 'read' and didn't follow that up with another text to check in or better yet, call her directly and have a real conversation. B) OP let her sis know where her daughter was, with address and phone#, sis 'blew up' phone with spam ,then OP turns her phone off, leaves me with a pot and kettle debate. leaving it on but silent so she'd be able to respond if Jade needed to talk to her. Otherwise she looks as bad as Mom. 25 years ago, people had better manners than to text instead of speaking to the person. This is how to avoid having to deal with unpleasant situations. " I assumed it was ok" , by her not following through with a call, left that wishy washy big hole open for this outcome. Better yet to call instead and got a sense of what the sis might try to pull, and maybe issue a threat of what OP would do if not respected.

Key Lime
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Make sure your sister doesn't have keys to your place and keep the doors locked. I can see you getting out of the shower and finding your nice alone and waiting for you.

Shannon Mallory
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with Gabby Ghoul - how in the hell is her decision to pop out puppies _your_ responsibility??!!??? Wtf with people, really

Bella V
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dang I think I'm the only one that is on the YTA part. Let me explain. (and in no way shape or form do I think the sister is correct she's TA too) She agreed. Then 5 days before she canceled (this part is ok) what's NOT ok is "I figured it was ok" No, you should've followed up with your sister in person or on the phone to clarify. It's ok to break plans, it's not ok to assume regardless. But all of that aside the thing that bothers me the absolute most is you left the baby with someone that THEY don't know. That part makes you TA in my book, then turning off your phone. That is extremely immature on your part. Again, sister did wrong dumping baby on you. But you handled it all wrong as well.

Cory Tollman
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP and sister should have both followed up with each other. Neither did so because they didn't want to deal with a potential argument and confirming that they (either of them) might have to make changes to their plans.

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Karla Dolman
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone is an AH. You agreed to babysit for their anniversary and then cancelled when better plans come along. That's AH behaviour. Mum leaving baby anyway is AH behaviour and negligent (however if agreeing to help then cancelling for your own night out is common practice for you, then I maybe get her pov a bit more). You should never have left the baby with someone the parents and baby sisnt know tho.

Cory Tollman
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know. 5 days notice seems like a fair amount of warning. I would like to know what OP's sister had planned for her anniversary. Was it something expensive that they planned way out in advance, couldn't get refunded etc...or was it something that they could have done any old day and maybe adjust the day they were going to do it? Was hiring a babysitter themselves out of the question?

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Anouk T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the OP had her own children she would’ve known that dropping Ava off at Jade wasn’t a good idea - for Ava’s sake, she should’ve stayed with her. Yes, sister is a jerk and some proper boundaries have to be set but what OP did was not only potentially dangerous but just not good for the kid who didn’t even know Jade… poor Ava, she’s a real victim in this whole situation

Belle Miles
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are all idiots and everyone involved needs to be investigated by CPS and the police. Mom and Dad, BOTH, The OP, and the lady that said a random strangers BABY is OK to be with her without parental consent which is kidnapping. Good God, what the hell is WRONG with you people.

AR
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2 years ago

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ESH. Don’t say you’re going to watch someone’s kid then cancel only 5 days beforehand. And even if you do cancel so close, at least make sure they got the message and NEVER leave someone’s kid with a stranger unless it’s an absolute emergency. Sister sucks for just dropping the kid off and leaving, not to mention expecting OP to drop everything for her niece and turning off her phone. Why wasn’t anyone thinking about the baby?

John Dough
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cmon. The sister knew exactly what she did. Stop giving her the benefit of the doubt.

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Linda's friend Ginger
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But it's the OP's sister's fault her daughter ended up with a stranger in the long run. At least OP left the kid with a trusted friend.

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Dip thong
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2 years ago (edited)

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This could go either way. You made a commitmentt to your sister first. Something better came along and you bailed. 5 weeks out or not. And people are not always who they seem. ,( the girlfriend could have been off in the head and no one knew)People often find that out too late. There's just a bunch of mistakes here. Nobody is the AH. P.S. I've done the same thing, years ago. Looking back it wasn't fair to the bailee. I wished you had made sure that your sister got the fact you had changed your mind.

John Dough
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's surprising how many people want to give the sister a pass for dumping her kids on someone she knew wasn't available.

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Gabby Ghoul
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I might say ESH but the phrase "step up to [her] responsibility as an aunt" grates on me. You had a child so now I have more responsibilities? I think not.

Karla Dolman
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2 years ago

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Uh, do you think having children is a lifestyle luxury choice and not in fact vital for the future stability of society, especially with a currently aging population and falling birth rate? Do you not think family members have basic responsibility towards each other as requirement of being a part of a family, things like not agreeing to help and then cancelling for selfish reasons? I think I'd expect better from my siblings than that.

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Kayla J
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the OP did as best as she could in this situation and I don't think dropping off Ava at Jade's was that big of a deal. If Jade is a babysitter and a close friend, she will have OP's number in case Ava doesn't respond well to her and can call OP to have her cut her night short. My only suggestion to OP is to learn next time if its an important message to don't just accept it as being "read" with no communication after. Pick up the phone and call, confirm they understand even if it is family esp ones that take advantage of your free services.

BenMaharaj
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Beat me to it. Absolutely call and make sure they acknowledge and understand you are not available.

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Gavin Johnson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a daughter, 12, I also have a brother, he has two children,13 & 15,, we both have times when we use each other to look after each other’s children, they all get along very well. MY daughter is not his responsibility, HIS children are not my responsibility. With 5 days notice of changes to a plan for my daughter then it is on ME to be organised and work out a plan if that’s not possible then it’s on ME, she is my child and the number one priority is her so I have to rearrange my plans. That’s called being a parent, yes we use grandparents who love spending time with their grandchildren, yes we try to help each other out but there’s zero pressure to be ‘a good uncle’ or be inconvenienced by someone else’s lack of planning. FFS take ownership of your family and your commitments. You don’t come first, that ended when you decided to become a parent, yes your time is important but when it is your child that may suffer then it’s on YOU to take the hit. Tough.

Marcia Mongelluzzo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you leave your child with someone, even a family member, you DON'T turn your phone off.

John Dough
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless of course you know what you did and want to avoid dealing with the consequences

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fu yu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh please. Just tell them not to bother asking you for babysitting ever again until they apologize and see how quickly they fold.

Jiminy
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It must be really hard to just CALL someone to clarify plans instead of "uh, it's on read, she didn't answer but probably agreed". Just TALK to each other, people...

bob van wijk
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think she did that, so the sister wouldn't try to force her. She doesn't sound like a normal person who takes no for an answer.

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Tams21
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If op had cancelled at the last minute, mom would have the right to feel let down. To have that much notice and then to ignore it, turn up at ops door and then even be condescending about it is so out of line. The only people with who should have a expectation to look after a child put on them are the childs parents. Mom failed.

Michael Largey
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, you should have left the kid with another party. Child Protective Services. This is the proper course, and it features two bonuses. (1) Your sister will never do this to you again, and (2) Your sister will never speak to you again.

Nizumi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was all set with YTA, and then read the whole thing. Definitely NTA. It wasn't known that college friends would show up for one night only - of course you'd want to get together! 5 days' notice is plenty. It's the responsibility of the mother of the child to make other arrangements or at least communicate to her sister and let her now she hasn't found an alternative, could maybe OP know of someone who could help? Then the whole Jade thing wouldn't have been an issue.

Amused panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It seems odd that OP didn't confirm her sister had made other arrangements given she was no longer available, since is easy for anyone to flake on a task or text, but there are a few things which together decided NTA for me: the statement from her sister that she needs to step up, the fact they'd only provisionally made arrangements & were going to confirm closer to the time, and the fact her sister effectively dumped baby, fled & made herself unavailable to the point she didn't respond for 2 hours. As for who OP arranged to babysit, whilst she was a stranger to baby & momma, Jade was known to OP, trusted, and experienced. I wonder if the family are on the sister's side because they think Jade was complete stranger (to all) and think OP flaked with zero notice.

Mary Lou
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand the ESH on this one: leaving the child with OH while she is not consenting to it and then switching off the phone is downright bullying (and reckless as: what if there was an emergency or so?). By not even giving oh the chance to discuss her babysitting arrangement, she clearly lost her right to complain afterwards!

Anouk T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s about the kid , she was left with a stranger that’s very unsafe and unfair for the child. Of course sister is a jerk but the kid became a victim of this whole situation which is wrong and justifies ESH to me

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Debbie
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Next time, when you can't babysit just say: Hey, I told you I'd confirm if I could babysit, but unfortunately, I can't babysit this Friday. [end] Don't say why you can't babysit, that's none of her business and gives fuel to arguments. You can't. Don't explain. If your sister asks why, you say: something else came up. If your sister keeps asking what it is you say: Something I prioritize over babysitting. And then she could have also offered the contact details of friend Jade, who might be able to babysit for fair pay. (do add that last part!)

Susan Bell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am wondering if your family has always shown a reference for your sister, and that is why you feel sad and helpless. This preference in the face of obviously poor behavior by your sister is troubling.

Diphylleia Grayi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Last time, I thought parents are the only ones 100% responsible for their children. Any additional and/or not paid help, are that, HELP, voluntary, discussed nor a must as for parents. Responsible parenting they call it...

Gabriela Cink
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is so much wrong. Never assume, always confirm that other person understands. Aunt assumed her sister understood that she has personal life. Her sister assumed that auntie would sucriface time for her sweet baby niece. And if her sister doesn't trust her judgement (choosing Jade and friends in general), then she shouldn't trust her with babysitting. But yeah, she just did it out of spit... She should be prepared that babysitters are usually strangers.

RJS
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The big difference being that ultimately it’s the parent’s responsibility

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Lulu Lemons
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It would be ESH if Jade wasn't already a babysitter but as she has experience NTA

Stephanie S
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. In fact, I'd say your sister and BIL are. You were doing them a favor. They can do what most other parents do who can't find a sitter... stay home with their baby and celebrate their anniversary out another night. Pretty selfish on their part.

Cory Tollman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was wondering about that as well. I know there are some people who are obsessive about celebrating anniversaries/holidays/birthdays etc... on THE DAY or it's just not right. Those people annoy the c**p out of me since my family has almost always had to work around people's schedules to get together. It's possible that OP's sister had a special reservation or had paid some non-refundable deposit for this anniversary thing but with 5 days warning she should have been able to find someone else to babysit. Plus, this was the 3rd anniversary. Big whoop. It came across more that the sister and BIL just wanted to ditch the kid for a night out.

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Misty Moon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA! Being on the receiving end of being totally ignored while watching someone's kids for what was supposed to be 3-4 hrs but ended up being over 8hrs-not f.ing cool! OP's sister is not entitled to free babysitting-from anyone. And I totally agree with the responses saying she should have called police. I wish I had done that instead of just telling the person I babysat for that it was my next step. Fortunately for her, I was able to get ahold of her mother and she was the one who finally got a response from her daughter and told her to go pick up her children. Smh. Sorry for the rant but this really struck a nerve. Using people is wrong! Abandoning your kids is wrong! 😠

AngelWingsYT
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA: you warned her days in advance. She READ the message but ignored it thinking youd just drop plans if she showed up. Which she did dashed n shut her phone off so you couldnt contact HER in emergency. You made the mature call to inlist a close friend n ACTUAL babysitter to help and told your sis contact info. As for the family explain what happened how she disrespected your wishes n blew off your desires

Cynthia Plath
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Friendly reminder that the downvote option is not a dislike button! People can be muted and even banned for having an opinion that differs from the majority; unless someone's being an overtly obnoxious assh*le, then please respectfully disagree and refrain from downvoting.

Scott Rackley
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Not even close. Next time don't answer the door. If somehow you're in the same situation, call the cops and give them the sister's number.

ricardo saria
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

...NTA...your sister and bil, however, are abusive, manipulative, shining examples of irresponsible parents(sometimes referred to as a**holes)...you were much more reasonable and adult then the others...hopefully Ava can avoid growing up to be like her mother and father?...

Lynda Wilson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I haven't seen (may have missed) anyone commenting on the fact that after finding out she left her niece with a "stranger", and her sister being so upset, the sister didn't rush from her dinner to pick her child up. If she was truly worried about her daughter being "endangered" she would have immediately left the dinner and picked her child up. Instead, she picked her up "later that night". Sister needs to suck it up and get over it. I took my babies with me to my anniversary dinners because I didn't have options for sitters. Worked out fine.

Natalie Westby
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely not the a*****e! My cousin pulled Something like That on me. She just showed up at 7am one morning and handed me her baby and said that her baby daddy was coming to pick her up in about an hour. 5 HOURS later! Baby daddy showes up. That was the last time i let anyone take advantage of me,

AustrianGirl
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A little bit off topic, but I wouldn't even watch my nephew without my sister or my BIL beeing in screaming distance. He was born at 32 weeks and still needs some medical devices monitoring him at 10 weeks old. They showed me how everything works and I'm totally fine if they go sleeping or do whatever, I'll even take a walk with him - but I would never go further than a couple 100 meters. It will probably take a couple of months until any of us are willing to watch him without his parents nearby.

Cat Schell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least your willing to be a parents helper and watch him while the do something else or sleep. Personally with a baby that fragile I'd be terrified to sleep without having another family member or friend watching over him. You're doing a good thing. Enjoy this precious chance to get to know your nephew.

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SuePrew
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I assume mom turned off her phone so sister couldn't call her and ruin her evening. Well, what if something happened and Ava had to go to the emergency room or something? VERY irresponsible, if you ask me.

Pat Ferryman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She did let them know 5 days ahead not her problem anymore. Sister takes advantage didn’t try to find other baby sitter.

Marian Moore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always have made sure that I don't baby-sit, period. I never asked anyone to baby-sit my kids. I didn't ask my parents either. If mom wanted to spend time with them, I made sure they got the grandparent time. They raised 4 kids, and I was not going to ever dump my kids on them. If my hubby and I wanted to go out, we had a baby-sitter next door that was paid.

Diane Knight
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A couple of things that don't sit right with me. A) she sent a text, saw it was 'read' and didn't follow that up with another text to check in or better yet, call her directly and have a real conversation. B) OP let her sis know where her daughter was, with address and phone#, sis 'blew up' phone with spam ,then OP turns her phone off, leaves me with a pot and kettle debate. leaving it on but silent so she'd be able to respond if Jade needed to talk to her. Otherwise she looks as bad as Mom. 25 years ago, people had better manners than to text instead of speaking to the person. This is how to avoid having to deal with unpleasant situations. " I assumed it was ok" , by her not following through with a call, left that wishy washy big hole open for this outcome. Better yet to call instead and got a sense of what the sis might try to pull, and maybe issue a threat of what OP would do if not respected.

Key Lime
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Make sure your sister doesn't have keys to your place and keep the doors locked. I can see you getting out of the shower and finding your nice alone and waiting for you.

Shannon Mallory
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with Gabby Ghoul - how in the hell is her decision to pop out puppies _your_ responsibility??!!??? Wtf with people, really

Bella V
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dang I think I'm the only one that is on the YTA part. Let me explain. (and in no way shape or form do I think the sister is correct she's TA too) She agreed. Then 5 days before she canceled (this part is ok) what's NOT ok is "I figured it was ok" No, you should've followed up with your sister in person or on the phone to clarify. It's ok to break plans, it's not ok to assume regardless. But all of that aside the thing that bothers me the absolute most is you left the baby with someone that THEY don't know. That part makes you TA in my book, then turning off your phone. That is extremely immature on your part. Again, sister did wrong dumping baby on you. But you handled it all wrong as well.

Cory Tollman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP and sister should have both followed up with each other. Neither did so because they didn't want to deal with a potential argument and confirming that they (either of them) might have to make changes to their plans.

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Karla Dolman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone is an AH. You agreed to babysit for their anniversary and then cancelled when better plans come along. That's AH behaviour. Mum leaving baby anyway is AH behaviour and negligent (however if agreeing to help then cancelling for your own night out is common practice for you, then I maybe get her pov a bit more). You should never have left the baby with someone the parents and baby sisnt know tho.

Cory Tollman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know. 5 days notice seems like a fair amount of warning. I would like to know what OP's sister had planned for her anniversary. Was it something expensive that they planned way out in advance, couldn't get refunded etc...or was it something that they could have done any old day and maybe adjust the day they were going to do it? Was hiring a babysitter themselves out of the question?

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Anouk T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the OP had her own children she would’ve known that dropping Ava off at Jade wasn’t a good idea - for Ava’s sake, she should’ve stayed with her. Yes, sister is a jerk and some proper boundaries have to be set but what OP did was not only potentially dangerous but just not good for the kid who didn’t even know Jade… poor Ava, she’s a real victim in this whole situation

Belle Miles
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are all idiots and everyone involved needs to be investigated by CPS and the police. Mom and Dad, BOTH, The OP, and the lady that said a random strangers BABY is OK to be with her without parental consent which is kidnapping. Good God, what the hell is WRONG with you people.

AR
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2 years ago

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ESH. Don’t say you’re going to watch someone’s kid then cancel only 5 days beforehand. And even if you do cancel so close, at least make sure they got the message and NEVER leave someone’s kid with a stranger unless it’s an absolute emergency. Sister sucks for just dropping the kid off and leaving, not to mention expecting OP to drop everything for her niece and turning off her phone. Why wasn’t anyone thinking about the baby?

John Dough
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cmon. The sister knew exactly what she did. Stop giving her the benefit of the doubt.

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Linda's friend Ginger
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But it's the OP's sister's fault her daughter ended up with a stranger in the long run. At least OP left the kid with a trusted friend.

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Dip thong
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2 years ago (edited)

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This could go either way. You made a commitmentt to your sister first. Something better came along and you bailed. 5 weeks out or not. And people are not always who they seem. ,( the girlfriend could have been off in the head and no one knew)People often find that out too late. There's just a bunch of mistakes here. Nobody is the AH. P.S. I've done the same thing, years ago. Looking back it wasn't fair to the bailee. I wished you had made sure that your sister got the fact you had changed your mind.

John Dough
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's surprising how many people want to give the sister a pass for dumping her kids on someone she knew wasn't available.

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